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NO Secret Service for DT if a Felon, plus Assassination Attempt DEMANDS a Hearing, & Will DNC be Delayed do to Biden Week in Review · The Ben Ferguson Podcast

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Speaker 1: Welcome. It is Verdict with Ted Cruz, Weekend Review, Ben
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Speaker 1: Ferguson with you, and these are the stories that you
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Speaker 1: may have missed that we talked about this week and
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Speaker 1: was it a crazy week in the world of politics.
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Speaker 1: First up, let's go back in history when the Democrats
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Speaker 1: in Congress demanded that the Secret Service protection be stripped
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Speaker 1: of Donald Trump when he became a felon. Is there
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Speaker 1: going to be repercussions for those requests in light of
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Speaker 1: what happened with the assassination attempt? Also, there are so
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Speaker 1: many questions on the assassination attempt, So is there going
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Speaker 1: to be a hearing? The answer is yes, and how's
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Speaker 1: it going to play out? We'll explain that to you.
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Speaker 1: And finally, there is word that Joe Biden may even
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Speaker 1: drop out of the race and the Democratic Party is
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Speaker 1: pushing to delay the Democratic National Convention. It's the Weekend
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Speaker 1: Review and it starts right now. Democrats actively called members
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Speaker 1: of Congress so that no one thinks he is a
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Speaker 1: conspiracy theory for Donald Trump to lose Secret Service protection
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Speaker 1: if he was convicted of a felony. One of those
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Speaker 1: was my former Congressman Steve Cohen. He and several other
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Speaker 1: people in Congress said that they should pull Secret Service
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Speaker 1: protection of Donald Trump, which goes back to what you
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Speaker 1: said about it being political. They didn't care if Donald
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Speaker 1: Trump got killed. In fact, they advocated for taking away
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Speaker 1: the safety that protects a president from being killed. And
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Speaker 1: those are members of Congress. And it's amazing to me
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Speaker 1: that virtually, no, not virtually literally no one in the
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Speaker 1: media has brought that point up that just months ago
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Speaker 1: we had active Democrats in Congress, not fringe people. Okay,
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Speaker 1: these are elected officials who are demanding that Donald Trump
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Speaker 1: lose a Secret Service protection if he was convicted of
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Speaker 1: these I'm sorry hoaks, you know, crimes against him, they
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Speaker 1: tried to go after and for imprison him.
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Speaker 2: Well, and this was legislation that was filed by Congressman
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Speaker 2: Benny Thompson, who is who is the top Democrat on
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Speaker 2: the Homeland Security Committee.
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Speaker 1: So he's actually can you just say that again, so
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Speaker 1: if you understand how important that job is, and then
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Speaker 1: to understand that Homeland Security, how much they have to
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Speaker 1: do with the Secret Service.
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Speaker 2: So they are the committee of jurisdiction. They have authority
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Speaker 2: over the Department of Homeland Security. And Benny Thompson is
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Speaker 2: the senior Democrat, he's called the ranking member, and he
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Speaker 2: filed the legislation. He is the author of the legislation
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Speaker 2: to say, let's pull the Secret Service coverage from Donald
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Speaker 2: Trump entirely if he's convicted. And by the way, it's
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Speaker 2: a complete partisan conviction that is designed to subvert democracy.
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Speaker 2: But let's be clear, if you were to put any
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Speaker 2: former president into general population in a prison, they would die, yes.
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Speaker 2: And so he's literally effectively calling for a death sentence.
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Speaker 2: And by the way, Betty Thompson also had a staffer
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Speaker 2: who in the wake of this posted on x saying
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Speaker 2: that she wishes the shooter had taken shooting lessons and
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Speaker 2: that he wouldn't miss next time. Now, Benny Thompson fired
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Speaker 2: that staffer. He put out a statement, I was made
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Speaker 2: aware of a post made by a staff member and
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Speaker 2: she is no longer in my employment. But you know
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Speaker 2: what staff reflects the member, yep, And it reflects the
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Speaker 2: culture that her first reaction is to be angry that
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Speaker 2: this would be assassin did not in fact kill Donald Trump.
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Speaker 2: That's what she wanted and from his legislation, and it
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Speaker 2: was joined by multiple other Democrats that legislation, if it
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Speaker 2: actually had become law, and if Trump had gone to prison,
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Speaker 2: would have led directly to the death of Donald Trump.
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Speaker 2: And now they're suddenly saying, oh, well, we're very dismayed
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Speaker 2: that there was any violence towards it.
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Speaker 1: Well, let's talk about the rewriting of history and move
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Speaker 1: also to the press conference CNNY and I that Joe
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Speaker 1: Biden had he opened it Winter press Coming. It's more
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Speaker 1: of a statement from the over office, I should say,
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Speaker 1: because there was no questions and what he said his
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Speaker 1: address to the nation when he opened was certainly rewriting
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Speaker 1: of history. Here he is, in his own words, I
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Speaker 1: want to speak you tonight about the need for us
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Speaker 1: to lower the temperature in our politics and to remember,
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Speaker 1: or may disagree, we are not enemies.
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Speaker 3: We're neighbors.
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Speaker 2: We're friends, coworkers, citizens, and most importantly, we are fellow Americans.
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Speaker 1: Sounds great. The problem is if you go and read
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Speaker 1: the president's own words in the days leading up to
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Speaker 1: this moment, that is not what he was saying at all.
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Speaker 1: He didn't say, hey, I need to tone it down
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Speaker 1: as well. Joe Biden's own tweet was quote Donald Trump
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Speaker 1: is the greatest threat to our democracy. He tweeted out again,
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Speaker 1: donald Trump is a genuine threat to this nation. Another tweet,
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Speaker 1: he meaning, Trump is a threat to our freedom, he
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Speaker 1: is a threat to our democracy. He's literally this is
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Speaker 1: Joe Biden's words on Twitter on x He's literally referring
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Speaker 1: to Trump a threat to everything America stands for. He
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Speaker 1: also said Donald Trump is a threat to our democracy
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Speaker 1: and we cannot let him win. I'm in Madison, Wisconsin
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Speaker 1: talking to the folks about what's at stake in this election.
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Speaker 1: We cannot let him win. He also tweeted out Trump
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Speaker 1: poses many threats to our country, the right to choose,
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Speaker 1: civil rights, voting rights, and Americans and America city in
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Speaker 1: the world. But the greatest threat he poses is to
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Speaker 1: our democracy. If we lose that, we lose everything. If
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Speaker 1: I read those and I'm a crazy twenty year old lunatic,
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Speaker 1: and you tell me, as the President United States America,
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Speaker 1: that Donald Trump, and I'm quoting again, is a threat
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Speaker 1: to our democracy. Quote, He's literally a threat to everything
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Speaker 1: America stands for. Well, then it's not crazy to think
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Speaker 1: that that person would say, Well, then we have to
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Speaker 1: stop him at all means, because we've already tried to
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Speaker 1: impeach him. That didn't work. We tried to bankrupt him,
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Speaker 1: that didn't work. We tried to lock him up, that
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Speaker 1: didn't work. What's left.
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Speaker 2: Well, and you're right, and there's some irony with Joe
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Speaker 2: Biden suggesting, you know, we need to tamp down the rhetorical.
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Speaker 2: I'd like to see the rhetoric tamp down, but then
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Speaker 2: taking no responsibility. Listen, it is Democrats for a decade
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Speaker 2: who have been calling Donald Trump eight off Hitler.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, and and.
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Speaker 1: The media too, and the media too.
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Speaker 2: And well, I said, democrats, and they're one in the
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Speaker 2: inn that the corporate media is the left wing of
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Speaker 2: the Democrat Party. That is their role, and they call
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Speaker 2: him that over and over and over again.
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Speaker 3: Here play the montage.
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Speaker 2: This is Democrats repeatedly calling for political violence. It starts
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Speaker 2: with Nancy Pelosi. Give a listen.
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Speaker 1: Here is Nancy Pelosi, as you mentioned, senator in her
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Speaker 1: own words, and many in the media and other elect
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Speaker 1: officials explicitly calling for political violence against conservatives.
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Speaker 4: I just don't even know why there aren't uprisings all
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Speaker 4: of the country, and maybe there will be. People need
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Speaker 4: to start taking to the streets.
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Speaker 2: This is a dictator, you know, there needs to be
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Speaker 2: unrest in the streets for as long as there's unrest
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Speaker 2: in our lives. Enemies of the state, show me where
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Speaker 2: it says that protests are supposed to be polite and peaceful.
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Speaker 3: Do something about your dad's immigration practices. Effeckless, come, they go.
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Speaker 1: How do you resist the temptation to run up and
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Speaker 1: bring her neck? The biggest terror threat in this country
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Speaker 1: is white men, most of them radicalized up to the right.
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Speaker 1: I thought he should have punshed him in the face.
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Speaker 1: They said, even if you lost, he insulted you, Why
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Speaker 1: he's on the escalator and called Mexican's rapist and earth.
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Speaker 3: He said, well, what do you think I should have done?
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Speaker 2: So?
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Speaker 1: I think you should punish.
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Speaker 3: Him in the face and then gotten out of the race.
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Speaker 1: You would have been a hero.
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Speaker 3: I'd like to him in the face.
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Speaker 1: I said, if we're in high school, I taken behind
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Speaker 1: the gym and beat the hell out of him.
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Speaker 3: Put some people in the face. When was the last
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Speaker 3: time an actor assassinated a president? They're still going to
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Speaker 3: have to go out and put a bullet in Donald Trump.
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Speaker 2: And that's a fact.
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Speaker 3: Looks his character is stabbed to death. Where is John
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Speaker 3: Wilke's booth when you need him in this way up,
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Speaker 3: I have thought an awful lot about blowing up the
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Speaker 3: White House. A Missouri state senator is under investigation by
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Speaker 3: the Secret Service after saying she hopes President Trump is assassinated.
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Speaker 4: I will go and take Trump out to night.
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Speaker 3: And if you.
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Speaker 1: See anybody from that cabinet in a restaurant, in a
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Speaker 1: department stap and a castles, you get.
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Speaker 3: Out and you create a clod and you push back
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Speaker 3: on them and you tell them then I'm now gone.
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Speaker 2: Very well. And sadly, the domestic enemies to our voting
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Speaker 2: system and are honoring our constitution are right at sixteen
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Speaker 2: hundred Pennsylvania Avenue.
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Speaker 1: They're not going to stop before election day in November,
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Speaker 1: and they're not going to stop after election day.
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Speaker 2: And that should be everyone should take note of that
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Speaker 2: on both levels.
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Speaker 3: That is, they're not going to let up, and they
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Speaker 3: should not. If you think you're say nothing yet.
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Speaker 1: That's what Donald Trump dealt with while he was president
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Speaker 1: and after being the president.
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Speaker 2: Look the radical left, Donald Trump melted their minds. They
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Speaker 2: hate him, and they have spewed invective and hate for years.
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Speaker 2: And listen, there's an invective on both sides. I would
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Speaker 2: like to see the political temperature taken down, but the
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Speaker 2: Democrats intend to go right back to this. This is
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Speaker 2: a brief, little pause for about twelve seconds, and by
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Speaker 2: I don't know, next week or the week after, they're
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Speaker 2: going to go back to Callingham hitler because the rage
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Speaker 2: and fury. Look the number of leftists on Twitter who
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Speaker 2: were lamenting that they were sad.
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Speaker 1: That isn't good at it. Yeah, they're basically saying this
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Speaker 1: if any and there were people literally tweeting out there like, hey,
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Speaker 1: this guy, next time, take lessons. Next time, actually do
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Speaker 1: a good job.
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Speaker 2: And let me be clear, as you and I talked about,
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Speaker 2: we did a podcast immediately in the moments after this
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Speaker 2: assassination attempt. I pray for Joe Biden. I don't wish
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Speaker 2: political violence on Democrats or anyone else.
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Speaker 3: Now.
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Speaker 2: I want Joe Biden defeated at the ballot box. That
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Speaker 2: I believe his policies are harmful. But there's a difference
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Speaker 2: between saying his policies are harmful and saying he's Hitler,
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Speaker 2: saying he's Mussolini, which is what saying he's the devil,
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Speaker 2: which is what the Democrats have been doing literally for
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Speaker 2: a decade, and it's what the media has been doing.
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Speaker 1: To I said today, how many cities have Republicans tried
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Speaker 1: to destroy? After their kin it was almossassinated. Just so
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Speaker 1: we're clear, zero, What did Republicans say today? They said, pray,
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Speaker 1: go to church, yes, and and and pray for the
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Speaker 1: family of those who lost loved ones. There's been no violence.
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Speaker 1: I never want to hear again from the left. Oh,
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Speaker 1: it's the Republicans of the extremists here. There has been
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Speaker 1: nothing but love and compassion.
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Speaker 2: There's anger, and we also need to fix the damn problem.
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Speaker 2: We need to make sure that there is is adequate
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Speaker 2: protection for Donald Trump and and and and for others
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Speaker 2: targeted by violence, because this was a catastrophic failure and
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Speaker 2: we got to make sure it doesn't have again.
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Speaker 1: Now, if you want to hear the rest of this conversation,
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Speaker 1: you can go back and listen to the full podcast
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Speaker 1: from earlier this week. Now onto story number two, Sina,
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Speaker 1: I want to.
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Speaker 2: Ask you this.
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Speaker 1: You're mentioned the Senate only meeting details. I'm going to
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Speaker 1: read this from CBS News. Details are emerging about the
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Speaker 1: moments that led to the shooting. Bystandards alerted law enforcement
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Speaker 1: to the government on the roof of a building about
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Speaker 1: four hundred and ten feet away from the stage, at
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Speaker 1: least two minutes before the first shot was fired at Trump.
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Speaker 3: Yep.
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Speaker 1: How vulnerable are we and how vulnerable is every president
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Speaker 1: past and present? If you've got a two minute warning
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Speaker 1: and the job is still not done?
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Speaker 3: Did anyone answer that question on the call?
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Speaker 2: Look, we need to have Part of the reason we
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Speaker 2: need to have a hearing is there a whole series
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Speaker 2: of questions about how many threats have there been? How
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Speaker 2: many agents did you have assigned? Should there be two
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Speaker 2: x three x four x as many agents assigned the president?
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Speaker 2: What resources, what equipment did you? Did you have the
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Speaker 2: threat profile? I'm willing to bet that Donald Trump is
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Speaker 2: the single most threatened individual on the face of the planet. Now,
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Speaker 2: I don't actually have the facts of the threats that
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Speaker 2: have come in to prove that is correct, but you
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Speaker 2: know what Secret Service does, and I would like us
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Speaker 2: to know what is the comparative threat level between Trump
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Speaker 2: and Biden? And my concern is that did politics play
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Speaker 2: a role?
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Speaker 3: Was it? Politics?
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Speaker 2: Are incompetence because it's clear they screwed up massively. Drink
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Speaker 2: I can tell you in this call. So you had
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Speaker 2: one senator who asked were there drones?
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Speaker 3: Yes or no?
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Speaker 2: And the answer from the head of the Secret Service
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Speaker 2: was we determined that the risk from that that rooftop
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Speaker 2: was mitigated.
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Speaker 3: By counter snipers.
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Speaker 2: Meaning now number one, if you didn't even say the
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Speaker 2: word no, which is what someone honestly would say, she
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Speaker 2: didn't say, well, obviously we needed drones and we should
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Speaker 2: have had them, which is what someone obviously would have said.
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Speaker 3: She didn't make the obvious point.
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Speaker 2: Well, the roof was slanted, so the counter snipers couldn't
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Speaker 2: see the guy because he was on the other end
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Speaker 2: of the slant. And by the way, I'm pretty sure
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Speaker 2: the roof didn't suddenly slant itself in between when they
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Speaker 2: advanced the scene and when it occurred. In other words,
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Speaker 2: they could have figured out if your quote mitigation is
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Speaker 2: counter snipers and they don't have a line of sight
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Speaker 2: to a place a sniper could be, then you don't
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Speaker 2: have effective mitigation. She addressed none of that, but it
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Speaker 2: was pure bureaucratase.
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Speaker 3: That's a good work for it. It's where I love
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Speaker 3: having a live studio audience. When you look up the.
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Speaker 2: Room and for the folks listening at home. Since we
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Speaker 2: are in a studio audience and the audience is not miked,
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Speaker 2: I will just say, you guys were in a cowfield
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Speaker 2: and they suggested it was a substance that was probably
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Speaker 2: there in large, large amounts.
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Speaker 1: Where you were there and after the shooting happened, you
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Speaker 1: saw how close it was. Where you shocked because I'm
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Speaker 1: sure you saw the commotion on the rooftop. I'm sure
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Speaker 1: you knew that's where the shots came out from. Then
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Speaker 1: you look at it, was there any I mean former
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Speaker 1: military When you look at it, Could you believe that building.
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Speaker 3: Was not monitored the way it should have been? Well,
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Speaker 3: you know, I would just be honest.
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Speaker 4: I didn't know at the on the site, right, you know,
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Speaker 4: you're in the middle of people, are you.
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Speaker 3: Know, you're trying to get people out.
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Speaker 4: So I wasn't sure until I got back and saw
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Speaker 4: the TV projections and the aerial photos where it came.
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Speaker 1: Were you shocked then knowing that you were there and
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Speaker 1: that's how close that building?
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Speaker 3: Yeah?
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Speaker 4: Absolutely, because it's the most obvious place. And the idea
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Speaker 4: is just to go back to my earlier point, the
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Speaker 4: idea that the sniper the twenty year old kid who
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Speaker 4: you know, has no experience would have known the place
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Speaker 4: where he wouldn't be in the sniper's line of sight. Yeah, right,
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Speaker 4: these are questions. I don't know what the answer is,
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Speaker 4: but it's seems highly unlikely that a single person could
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Speaker 4: have pulled this off without so much luck and so
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Speaker 4: much incompetence.
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Speaker 3: And so that's why the hearings to give us.
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Speaker 4: Confidence that we understand what really happened here are so
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Speaker 4: incredibly important.
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Speaker 2: Well, and look, I will say, the FBI was on
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Speaker 2: and they're investigating, and at least what they're reporting right
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Speaker 2: now is they don't have evidence of anyone else being involved,
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Speaker 2: and they're looking at his cell phone and his computers,
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Speaker 2: and they're engaged in the forensics, and we will find out.
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Speaker 3: We have seen with other instances.
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Speaker 2: There are times where their loan shooters commit horrific attacks,
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Speaker 2: and it's possible that this young man, who is an
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Speaker 2: alienated loaner that, unfortunately is a profile we've seen in
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Speaker 2: other instances of people who've committed horrific offenses, and.
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Speaker 3: So we'll find out in time.
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Speaker 2: I will say when the shooting occurs that this is
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Speaker 2: one of the moments I think every one of us
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Speaker 2: is going to remember exactly where we were when this happened,
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Speaker 2: and whether we were staring in horror at a television
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Speaker 2: set or in my instance, I was sitting there having
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Speaker 2: a meal with Heidi and we're staring at horror at
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Speaker 2: our phones and hitting refreshing. By the way, it says
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Speaker 2: something that nobody was on news sites. You're on social media,
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Speaker 2: you're on X because it's the fastest thing. You're getting
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Speaker 2: immediate updates of what's happening, one after the other after
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Speaker 2: the other. So we talked about, for example, on our
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Speaker 2: last podcast, we played from what got put up on
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Speaker 2: X of like one of the guys standing outside the
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Speaker 2: rally that saw this guy climbing on the roof yelling
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Speaker 2: the cops there's a guy with a rifle on the roof.
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Speaker 2: We now know a local police officer climbed up to
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Speaker 2: that roof. He pointed the rifle at the local police officer.
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Speaker 2: And yet, and we haven't had these questions yet, what
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Speaker 2: level of communication was there between the local police and
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Speaker 2: the secret service. The instant the local police officer saw
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Speaker 2: a sniper on a roof with with a gun, he
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Speaker 2: should have been yelling in his microphone shooter, shooter shoototer instantaneously.
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Speaker 2: The Secret Service should have pulled Trump off of that
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Speaker 2: stage before the shooter could aim, and they should have
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Speaker 2: taken him out right there. That didn't happen, which raises
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Speaker 2: the question was the Secret Service did they have communications
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Speaker 2: synchronized with local law enforcement? And I will tell you
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Speaker 2: something also, so I right before this podcast.
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Speaker 1: I was going to ask you that question because people
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Speaker 1: are going to want to hear this. You just met
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Speaker 1: with President Trump at the convention. For people that are listening,
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Speaker 1: you got see him his first time since.
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Speaker 2: His first time I've seen him since he was shot,
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Speaker 2: and I've visited with him, spent What do he say? Look,
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Speaker 2: Number one, he is, he is happy, he is he
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Speaker 2: is strong as ear his bandage. I will tell you
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Speaker 2: he he was quiet for a second and he spoke
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Speaker 2: with a seriousness that was unlike anything I've heard from
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Speaker 2: Donald Trump before. And he said God saved me that day.
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Speaker 2: And listen, I believe that is absolutely right. Many of
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Speaker 2: us have seen online, for example, recreations of the angle
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Speaker 2: of the bullet, and had his head turned even slightly
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Speaker 2: to the right or even slightly to the left, he
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Speaker 2: would have been killed and it is what I said
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Speaker 2: at the convention last night. I thank God for saving him.
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Speaker 2: I believe God turned his head, turned his head so
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Speaker 2: that the path of the bullet.
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Speaker 3: Did not kill him that day. And listen, this is horrific.
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Speaker 2: I will say, going back to the Reagan analogy, one
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Speaker 2: of the things Reagan always said is that when he
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Speaker 2: survived that assassination attempt, that it changed him, that it
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Speaker 2: gave him a seriousness of purpose.
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Speaker 3: That God spared me for a reason.
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Speaker 2: And listen, I think what Resident Trump has done already
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Speaker 2: for the country has been extraordinary. But but I got
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Speaker 2: to say, just visiting within a few minutes ago, it
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Speaker 2: was powerful in a very different way. And this was
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Speaker 2: just him and me talking one on one, that that
20:14
Speaker 2: it had had a real impact. And I also I
20:17
Speaker 2: talked to him about this briefing that I had just
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Speaker 2: left and and I expressed how deeply frustrating Uh it was. Now,
20:26
Speaker 2: I will say, have you noticed uh Trump's Secret Service
20:29
Speaker 2: detail here.
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Speaker 3: At the convention. They look like an offensive lineman. I
20:32
Speaker 3: like a whole line Green Bay Packers.
20:35
Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure the entire Green Bay Packers are right
20:39
Speaker 2: now surrounding Donald.
20:40
Speaker 3: What is your way and how tall. Are you yes,
20:42
Speaker 3: we'll take you today. Yeah, it is different. Final question
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Speaker 3: for each of you as we wrap. I believe bringing
20:48
Speaker 3: in the packers is probably worth three points.
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Speaker 4: It was critic like you smooth, how you did that?
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Speaker 3: As before.
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Speaker 1: If you want to hear the rest this conversation on
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Speaker 1: this topic, you can go back and dow the podcasts
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Speaker 1: from early this week to hear the entire thing. I
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Speaker 1: want to get back to the big story number three
21:10
Speaker 1: of the week. You may have missed two final questions
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Speaker 1: A do they delay the convention? Number one? And two.
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Speaker 1: If they delay the convention, will he step down at
21:23
Speaker 1: the convention and then have that be the media or
21:27
Speaker 1: does it come out before the convention.
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Speaker 2: I don't think they delay the convention. They might, but
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Speaker 2: I doubt it, and they don't wait. I think this
21:35
Speaker 2: happens within the next week. I think this could easily
21:38
Speaker 2: happen this weekend. And frankly, look, the Democrats are smart
21:42
Speaker 2: by delaying till after this convention.
21:44
Speaker 3: This convention, let.
21:45
Speaker 1: It happened and then kill them.
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Speaker 2: A minute has been phenomenal, and the media will treat
21:51
Speaker 2: whoever parachutes in the media will treat it as a
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Speaker 2: brand new race. Ignore anything that happened before. We're brand new,
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Speaker 2: starting over, and so I think they want to get
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Speaker 2: on with that quickly. So my prediction, by the way,
22:04
Speaker 2: if you want to think about momentous and historic weeks
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Speaker 2: in politics. On Saturday, the forward president of the United
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Speaker 2: States was shot, the first presidential assassination attempts since nineteen
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Speaker 2: eighty one. Immediately thereafter, we've had an incredibly successful convention,
22:24
Speaker 2: We've had a vice presidential nominee named, and it could
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Speaker 2: be within a week of that, because I could easily
22:30
Speaker 2: see it being this weekend. Joe Biden is off the ballot,
22:35
Speaker 2: and we have a new Democrat nominee, and there's chatter,
22:38
Speaker 2: there's some of the pundits that are saying, oh, we
22:40
Speaker 2: ought to have an open primary, we to have Democrats fighting.
22:42
Speaker 3: Are going to happen.
22:42
Speaker 2: I don't believe that will happen. They will coroinate and
22:46
Speaker 2: I think it'll be one.
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Speaker 3: Of the two.
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Speaker 1: Then my bonus question is either three or c depending
22:50
Speaker 1: on how you want to enlist these. How many times
22:53
Speaker 1: will Kamala Harris or Michelle Obama debate Donald Trump?
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Speaker 3: Once? It will have one, just one debate. We will
22:59
Speaker 3: have one.
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Speaker 1: Demand could they get away with saying I'm not going
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Speaker 1: to debate now. No, even if it's Michelle.
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Speaker 2: I think they will do one debate. I think they
23:07
Speaker 2: will feel like it's not credible if you don't do
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Speaker 2: a debate, particularly because.
23:12
Speaker 1: If you're Trump, do you push for two? I would yeah,
23:15
Speaker 1: but they say it's a reset. We're doing two of
23:17
Speaker 1: these suckers before November.
23:18
Speaker 2: But I don't think they'll end up doing it. Look,
23:20
Speaker 2: I think Trump may well push for two. Part of
23:23
Speaker 2: the reason if you're a Democrat, everyone concedes Trump mopped
23:26
Speaker 2: the floor with Biden. I think it's a Democrat. You
23:28
Speaker 2: don't want that to be the only debate. If you're
23:30
Speaker 2: putting someone new, you'd need something credible. I will tell
23:34
Speaker 2: you I just came from a meeting that that jd.
23:36
Speaker 2: Vance met with all the senators. We're congratulating him, and
23:39
Speaker 2: he did have a very funny thing he shared with us.
23:42
Speaker 2: He said, you know, he was talking to to Trump about, well, okay,
23:46
Speaker 2: who are we going to face.
23:47
Speaker 3: Is it going to be someone new? Is it going
23:49
Speaker 3: to be Kamala? And and and and.
23:50
Speaker 2: Jad said well, well, look, mister President, I said, yes,
23:54
Speaker 2: assuming I got to debate Kamala. If they actually bring
23:57
Speaker 2: in someone that's a really good debater. I may have
23:59
Speaker 2: to re think this. Trump said, no backing out. You
24:02
Speaker 2: accepted the thing. You're stuck, You're going anywhere.
24:06
Speaker 3: But look that I think they'll do it fast. By
24:11
Speaker 3: the way, I will.
24:12
Speaker 2: Point out the night of the debate, when you and
24:14
Speaker 2: I did a podcast immediately thereafter, we said that night,
24:18
Speaker 2: this is the most consequential presidential debate in American history.
24:22
Speaker 2: And the reason we said that is because we said,
24:25
Speaker 2: I believe this will change the names on the ballot
24:29
Speaker 2: in November, and that has never happened. There's never been
24:31
Speaker 2: a debate that changed the names on the ballot, and
24:34
Speaker 2: that's exactly what that debate did. It took a few
24:36
Speaker 2: weeks to play out, but I think it is imminent.
24:39
Speaker 2: I think it is within days.
24:41
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24:43
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24:46
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Speaker 3: That's a fair prediction. I think that is a prediction.
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26:32
Speaker 1: Donald Trump's speech tonight, any prediction last minute will he
26:36
Speaker 1: needle Joe Biden.
26:37
Speaker 2: Look, I think it is going to be substantially tamped down.
26:42
Speaker 2: I think Saturday change the speech. In fact, I know
26:44
Speaker 2: Saturday change the speech that I think prior to Saturday
26:48
Speaker 2: the speech was going to be quite combative, and I
26:52
Speaker 2: expect to see a lot of unity, a lot more
26:56
Speaker 2: language seeking to bring people together. And look, we've seen
27:00
Speaker 2: this throughout the convention. We talked about we did a
27:04
Speaker 2: live podcast at the convention yesterday. I talked about when
27:07
Speaker 2: I visited with President Trump yesterday, and I think Saturday
27:11
Speaker 2: really had an impact on him had an impact. I
27:12
Speaker 2: mean he kind of pulled me aside and said really quietly,
27:15
Speaker 2: just said God saved me. And it was quiet and
27:20
Speaker 2: serious in a way that I think is really consequential, and.
27:25
Speaker 3: Listen.
27:26
Speaker 2: I think it's you can't go through what he went
27:29
Speaker 2: through Saturday, having been shot and having been within a
27:32
Speaker 2: half inch of being killed, Amen, without really thinking about
27:37
Speaker 2: God Almighty turning his head because I believe that happened.
27:40
Speaker 2: I believe it was divine providence that turned his head,
27:43
Speaker 2: and had it been slightly one way or the other,
27:45
Speaker 2: we would be having a dramatically different conversation.
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