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Nick Cannon, Katrina 'Kat Tat' Jackson, Nafessa Williams & Bill Duke · The Steve Harvey Morning Show

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Speaker 1: ras Sean McDonald my next guest to say tattoos and
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Speaker 1: a return returning yuest because the first time, you know,
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Speaker 1: she she heard of me. I heard of her because
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Speaker 1: I see him on TV and all that good stuff.
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Speaker 1: But this time we have a relationship because I'm going
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Speaker 1: out of the l a next week. I'm dropping by
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Speaker 1: the shop. She's a painter, entrepreneur for latropists, and social
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Speaker 1: media influencer and has opened her own tattoo shop in
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Speaker 1: Los Angeles called Enigma Tattoo earlier this summer in June.
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Speaker 1: Please welcome back to money making conversations. I'm proud to
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Speaker 1: say that cat cat what's her girl? Hey, Hey, thank
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Speaker 1: you so much for having me again. I come a
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Speaker 1: long way since the last time we talk. I know,
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Speaker 1: let's talk about that's what I'm happen to happen. You're
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Speaker 1: back on the show and everything, because you know that
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Speaker 1: when I when I when you know, it's always a
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Speaker 1: journey with everything. That's that's the proximly about seven months
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Speaker 1: ago when we talked about eight months ago, when we
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Speaker 1: talked and and you was finding yourself. You was making
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Speaker 1: some decisions and you're doing great things, but you seem
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Speaker 1: to be not not what you wanted to be at
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Speaker 1: that moment. So let's talk about that journey where yet
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Speaker 1: right now? I love First of all, I can tell
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Speaker 1: there's a difference in your tone and your energy. You
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Speaker 1: feel really not saying you're a negative person, but your
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Speaker 1: spirit seems right. Thank you. You know, I really really
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Speaker 1: appreciate that. I've been out in Los Angeles for almost
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Speaker 1: two years now, out and it was a lot of
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Speaker 1: just figuring it out once you just kind of step
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Speaker 1: out on faith and moved to an entire new city
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Speaker 1: not knowing you know, too many people. It's the big risk.
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Speaker 1: So it took me a while to get it figured out.
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Speaker 1: And um, finally I feel like I got my purpose back,
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Speaker 1: you know, being a tattoo artist my entire adult life
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Speaker 1: since I was eighteen. Me finally having my own tattoo
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Speaker 1: shop just puts everything in perspective for me, and I
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Speaker 1: feel like I'm actually moving forward now instead of running
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Speaker 1: in circles. Now that then you lived that out rather smoothly,
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Speaker 1: my own tattoo shop, because we didn't even talk about
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Speaker 1: that eight months ago. That was that in the process
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Speaker 1: eight months ago. It's weird, Like I said, I've been
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Speaker 1: tattooing for so long. Um, like, tattooing is just my
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Speaker 1: my passion and that's what I do. And I am
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Speaker 1: so focused on creating and just figuring out, you know,
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Speaker 1: where I wanted to live with you know, the TV
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Speaker 1: showing so much happening at one time. I feel like
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Speaker 1: I didn't even really have the time to think about
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Speaker 1: to put together a plane in Like, Okay, I'm gonna
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Speaker 1: move here and open up my shop. Like it really
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Speaker 1: just it's set on my spirit. When when I felt
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Speaker 1: like it was the right time, you know, so it
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Speaker 1: it took me a long time, but like I once
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Speaker 1: I felt like, okay, now this is time for me
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Speaker 1: to pursue this. Um, I went and looked at spaces
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Speaker 1: and you know, started putting the piece together as to
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Speaker 1: what it would take and then UM, from there just
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Speaker 1: started rolling. So it was really like a six month
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Speaker 1: process from you know actually yeah, but the trade was
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Speaker 1: so UM has been there for so long that we
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Speaker 1: got we gotta brand. You gotta brand. You have a following,
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Speaker 1: so that's what helps in social media helps you out,
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Speaker 1: helping help you make that decision to open as well,
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Speaker 1: didn't Yeah, absolutely absolutely. I mean just being a tattoo artist,
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Speaker 1: you know, there's no bigger platform that you can ask for,
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Speaker 1: from a national TV show to you know, hundreds of
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Speaker 1: thousands of followers on Instagram. It's like it's a blessing
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Speaker 1: that you can't take for granted and you gotta take
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Speaker 1: full advantage of it. And you have been. So let's
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Speaker 1: talk about this whole process because my show Money Making
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Speaker 1: Conversation is about entrepreneurship. It's about people making that decision
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Speaker 1: that you made. Like you said, eight months ago, are
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Speaker 1: we discussed you was talking. You didn't bring up the
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Speaker 1: idea that I was going to open my own tattoo
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Speaker 1: shop in Los Angeles called Enigma Tattoo. Now, I lived
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Speaker 1: in Los Angeles fifteen years. Where about is it? So
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Speaker 1: I can you can? You can talk to me. Where
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Speaker 1: don't you open the shop? And where are the locations?
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Speaker 1: And why you chose this location? Um, it's Beverly Hills
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Speaker 1: Areas right on the corner of Pico and Robertson and anybody, yeah,
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Speaker 1: everybody that is from here that comes by there, like, man,
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Speaker 1: you couldn't have picked a better location. So it took
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Speaker 1: me a long time to figure out the location I lived.
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Speaker 1: I used to live in North Hollywood, and I didn't
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Speaker 1: want to do it. Well, you way away. You that's
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Speaker 1: a what's that's a one on one. That's one on
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Speaker 1: one north right North Hollywood. Uh um, North Hollywood. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: I think so, but I'm not there anymore. I moved
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Speaker 1: close to to the shop, but yes, and then I
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Speaker 1: looked in Culver City and I looked on mail Rows
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Speaker 1: where every other spot was a tattoo shop, and none
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Speaker 1: of it felt right to me. So I was actually
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Speaker 1: going to get my hair done um at this salne
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Speaker 1: in that area, and I'm looking around, I'm like, what
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Speaker 1: area is this? And then so I just drove all
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Speaker 1: up and down Pico, and I wrote down the phone
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Speaker 1: number to all the vacant spots, and there was one
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Speaker 1: that just looked like it had so much potential to me.
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Speaker 1: So I went, I looked through the window, I wrote
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Speaker 1: down the number, called, got the prices and everything, and
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Speaker 1: then from there I connected with the commercial broiltor and
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Speaker 1: he just closed the deal for me and everything went
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Speaker 1: smooth from there. So this is so cool. So I know,
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Speaker 1: Pico Robinson, that's the location of Enigma Tattooed that is
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Speaker 1: owned by Cat tat Cat. Let's talk about this so
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Speaker 1: because it was really a cool conversation. So do you
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Speaker 1: have any employees? Are you there by yourself? How? How
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Speaker 1: was working there? What's going on? Oh? No? Absolutely? There
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Speaker 1: are six of us total. Six amazing. Um sound like
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Speaker 1: a TV show to me, sound like a TV show.
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Speaker 1: I will take that that. So I'm not mad about
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Speaker 1: your TV. Now. I'm just gonna let you know that
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Speaker 1: I'm speaking to the speaking to words come true. Okay,
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Speaker 1: thank you so much. Let's put that in the air.
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Speaker 1: But um yeah, six of us total, all great amazing
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Speaker 1: tattoo artists. Um. And it's just a blessing to be
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Speaker 1: able to work with other amazing artists. I moved here.
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Speaker 1: I've just been kind of doing my own thing, traveling,
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Speaker 1: doing private sessions the studios. So now it's like, Okay,
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Speaker 1: now I can build something where we can all come
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Speaker 1: together and you know, do something even greater. This is interesting.
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Speaker 1: Let me ask you this so because this is really
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Speaker 1: really cool conversation because we're talking about business. How you
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Speaker 1: started your business from a six months ago? You you
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Speaker 1: driving up and down the street, you're looking at you
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Speaker 1: looked in shops in different areas of Culver City, North Hollywood, Hollywood,
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Speaker 1: and you settled on this location. Now you're telling me, Sean,
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Speaker 1: I'm not in there by myself. I have six other people, okay,
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Speaker 1: your celebrity tattoo artists. How did you choose the other
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Speaker 1: six people to come on board that? Did they have
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Speaker 1: to have a social media following? Did they have to
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Speaker 1: have a client base? Did you look at their artwork
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Speaker 1: or they came with recommendations. How does that work? Yeah?
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Speaker 1: You know what, when I feel like, once you enter
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Speaker 1: the art world and the tattoo world, all that celebrity
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Speaker 1: and TV stuff doesn't mean anything. You could be on TV,
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Speaker 1: but that doesn't mean it. You know, you could be
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Speaker 1: doing crappy work on TV. So for me, it was
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Speaker 1: all about the art, all about their skills that you
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Speaker 1: know there um their own clientele and everything. And I
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Speaker 1: pretty much like Cherry picked the artist, and I just
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Speaker 1: I was actually nervous to approach them because I'm like,
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Speaker 1: why would they want to come and work for me?
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Speaker 1: You know, it's really really nervous, and it's kind of timid.
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Speaker 1: So I just, you know, I just went out for
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Speaker 1: it and I sent them emails or text our reach
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Speaker 1: shots to them how I could, and I asked if
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Speaker 1: they would want to sit down and go to lunch
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Speaker 1: with me so I can tell them a little bit
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Speaker 1: about what I'm doing. And it worked, like you know,
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Speaker 1: they were stoked to come on board, and now we're
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Speaker 1: just forming an amazing team. So I'm just blessed. This
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Speaker 1: is cool. Now, what is your vision of of a
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Speaker 1: tattoo shop, you know, store, your location? What what makes
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Speaker 1: you when you walk in there. What when Roshaw walks
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Speaker 1: in there? Well? What what? What? What? What world am
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Speaker 1: I walking into? Well when you ask, like if I
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Speaker 1: had always planned on opening up a tattoo shop, I
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Speaker 1: come from, you know, the tattoo industries small towns of
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Speaker 1: my college town, and all tattoo shops were kind of
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Speaker 1: small hole in the wall. You know, some people are
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Speaker 1: kind of like mean at the front desk is very gritty,
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Speaker 1: and that's not me. Like, I know, I'm a tattoo artist,
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Speaker 1: but I'm also a businesswoman and I always think that.
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Speaker 1: So for me to have the tattoo out, I didn't
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Speaker 1: want just a little hole in the wall, you know,
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Speaker 1: like grant type intimidating shops. Like, I wanted something that
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Speaker 1: would appeal to people in all different categories, not just
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Speaker 1: the tattoo industry. I wanted to appeal to people who
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Speaker 1: are interested in art, who are interested in beauty, and
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Speaker 1: just I wanted to be very very high class. Again,
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Speaker 1: with all these great things that have happened to you,
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Speaker 1: let's go back to you. You know, giving back uh
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Speaker 1: part of your life. You know, that was something that
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Speaker 1: really affected me positively hard to you. What are you
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Speaker 1: involved in? Right? Now from a charity standpoint, from a
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Speaker 1: from a philanthropist standpoint, you talked to us right quick. Um, Well,
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Speaker 1: I've been doing a lot of work with the Genesee
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Speaker 1: Center for Domestic Violence and that's been consistent. And then
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Speaker 1: UM also with the tattoo shop, UM being right where
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Speaker 1: it is, right in the center of the city was
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Speaker 1: giving me an opportunity to do more hands on things
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Speaker 1: with things that are currently going on in the community.
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Speaker 1: So right now, you know, kids are going back to school,
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Speaker 1: so it's like, okay, let's use this location to have
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Speaker 1: a back to school dry. People can drop off school supplies, backpacks, anything,
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Speaker 1: UM closed, anything that you know kids and teenagers might
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Speaker 1: need before they go back to school. And then we're
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Speaker 1: going to be UM giving that to the Boys and
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Speaker 1: Girls Club of Los Angeles. So that's what I'm currently
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Speaker 1: working on, UM and I just want to do more
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Speaker 1: stuff like that, Like let's we use this location to
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Speaker 1: always just help people and really give that become a
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Speaker 1: part of the community like I was in Chicago. Now
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Speaker 1: I'm able to do that. Here is love it. I
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Speaker 1: love it. I love it. Let me it's just on
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Speaker 1: the caution here in regards to your art work he
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Speaker 1: was doing. You was to splaying some of your paintings
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Speaker 1: and galleries. Where are we at right now with that? Um, well,
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Speaker 1: right now, my tattoo shop is kind of like an
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Speaker 1: art gallery. All the painting. Yeah, so there's artwork. All
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Speaker 1: my artwork is currently on the walls, and then the
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Speaker 1: other tattoo artist there for painters, will be hanging up
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Speaker 1: their artwork. The next thing I want to do is
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Speaker 1: do a collaborative art show with all the artists so
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Speaker 1: people can come out and see that, you know, these
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Speaker 1: testoo artists are also painters. And then from there, I'm
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Speaker 1: gonna do my annual solo art show. Um, it will
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Speaker 1: Appreciate that bring them out as they said, you know
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Speaker 1: Why why? Why? Coming from the church. Honestly, I mean
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18:07
Speaker 1: You know, I was still confused or twenty two, I
18:09
Speaker 1: was talented to do, but I was just confused. And
18:12
Speaker 1: and the fact that you would we all have a
18:17
Speaker 1: layer of confusion. But the fact that you said, man, eleven,
18:20
Speaker 1: this is what I wanted to do. I was still
18:23
Speaker 1: trying to play basketball. I was trying to fit in.
18:25
Speaker 1: And I think that it's important based on the success
18:27
Speaker 1: that you having in such an early age so continued success,
18:31
Speaker 1: is that you made a decision to eleven, I'm gonna
18:33
Speaker 1: follow this path. I enjoyed, I respected, I appreciate it.
18:37
Speaker 1: And one thing it was my my dad always say
18:40
Speaker 1: think outside the box. I never forget that. I mean
18:42
Speaker 1: that was when that term was was new, and it
18:45
Speaker 1: was like everybody else in our neighborhood and the projects
18:48
Speaker 1: were trying to do the same things. And then in
18:50
Speaker 1: comedy with something especially at my age, that a lot
18:53
Speaker 1: of young people weren't striving to do. Uh, it was
18:57
Speaker 1: you know, and I did. I looked up to the
18:58
Speaker 1: likes of our senior Hall and Eddie Murphy and you know,
19:03
Speaker 1: all the guys on Deaf Jam and the Living Color
19:06
Speaker 1: at such a young age, and you know, from mimicking
19:08
Speaker 1: them to like creating my own material. It was different
19:11
Speaker 1: from all the kids in the neighborhood who just wanted
19:13
Speaker 1: to be rappers, which I wanted that as well. What
19:16
Speaker 1: you've done, yeah, what it was, but it was like, yo,
19:19
Speaker 1: it made me stand out. So even being in the
19:21
Speaker 1: stand up club at fifteen, I was the youngest, you know,
19:23
Speaker 1: and I would be I would see everybody there, you know,
19:26
Speaker 1: it was from the Chappelle's, the Tuckers, like everyone. But
19:30
Speaker 1: my set was always unique because I was coming from
19:34
Speaker 1: a fifteen year old perspective where everyone else was talking
19:36
Speaker 1: about the same stuff except for me. I was thinking
19:39
Speaker 1: outside the box and I was standing there and because
19:41
Speaker 1: of your youth, I'm on the phone where he's in
19:43
Speaker 1: the studio, I apologize amazing talent and here you see
19:47
Speaker 1: actually studio would be talking and Nick, when you talk
19:49
Speaker 1: about that age advantage warming up, that was your first break,
19:54
Speaker 1: tell us about how that happened. They got really good,
19:57
Speaker 1: launched you because that's what people saw as an actors
20:00
Speaker 1: so years a potential start, and that's where it actually
20:02
Speaker 1: started the fire inside of me as well, because you know,
20:05
Speaker 1: being a stand up being a kid, uh you know,
20:07
Speaker 1: I would go from the comedy clubs straight to school
20:11
Speaker 1: in the morning, uh, you know, two hours away in
20:13
Speaker 1: San Diego from l A. And then I got an
20:16
Speaker 1: opportunity one night, well you know, there's always agents and
20:20
Speaker 1: people in the crowd, and some producers from Nickelodeon happened
20:24
Speaker 1: to be uh in in the audience at the improv
20:27
Speaker 1: one night, and you know, they took a meeting with
20:30
Speaker 1: me or whatever, and they I went and saw a
20:32
Speaker 1: couple of the shows and I saw that there was
20:34
Speaker 1: a guy entertaining uh yeah, about four hours while you know,
20:39
Speaker 1: they're making a television show. They got to keep the
20:41
Speaker 1: audience entertained and informed. And I never knew what that was. Obviously,
20:45
Speaker 1: you know today that's an audience warm up person. And
20:47
Speaker 1: I was like, but I could do that, you know,
20:49
Speaker 1: I know I had I had enough energy to kind
20:52
Speaker 1: of sustain being up there for four hours. So I asked,
20:56
Speaker 1: you know, I was like, hey, let me get a
20:57
Speaker 1: shot at that. And from there I started on Nickelodeon
21:01
Speaker 1: doing the warm up and people were just I was
21:05
Speaker 1: more entertaining in the show. So word got around town.
21:09
Speaker 1: I started doing it for a bunch of shows. And then,
21:12
Speaker 1: you know, being sixteen years old, you know, being able
21:14
Speaker 1: to tell jokes, dance rapped seeing all that entertaining handsome
21:19
Speaker 1: to well, thank you. But and then that showed me
21:22
Speaker 1: that there was more jobs than just being in front
21:24
Speaker 1: of the camp uh. And that's when I, you know,
21:27
Speaker 1: got the bug for writing as well, because I was
21:29
Speaker 1: sitting back and I was I would watch the different
21:31
Speaker 1: sitcoms or even the sketches on Nickelodeon, and and because
21:35
Speaker 1: they were speaking to my audience and I was writing
21:38
Speaker 1: jokes every night, I was like, yo, I could write
21:39
Speaker 1: for this as well. And that's how I got my
21:41
Speaker 1: first job as the youngest staff writer in television. And
21:44
Speaker 1: that was incredible because here's the deal. He was killing it. Okay,
21:47
Speaker 1: you know, I was doing my thing on Sister Sister.
21:51
Speaker 1: I think y'all let me warm up Sister Sister. One.
21:53
Speaker 1: I went, I was got sick. I came over it.
21:57
Speaker 1: And that's when it because he was he was just
21:58
Speaker 1: a bona fide town But the thing that carries him differently,
22:02
Speaker 1: he's a You're a genuinely nice guy. Thank you. That
22:05
Speaker 1: that that separates yourself from anything else because you can
22:08
Speaker 1: see you you You've met a lot of talents people.
22:11
Speaker 1: I've met a lot of talents, but your ability to
22:14
Speaker 1: be nice, to be welcoming. It's what carries yourself in
22:18
Speaker 1: personal life as well as professionally, because on stage you
22:20
Speaker 1: want to be a friend with you can't. And it's
22:23
Speaker 1: it's it's energy. I'm a I'm an energy person, and
22:25
Speaker 1: when I was younger, I didn't really know how to explain,
22:28
Speaker 1: you know, but uh, you know obviously say I was
22:30
Speaker 1: raised right Honestly. You know, when you walk into a room,
22:33
Speaker 1: especially someone who's an entertainer or someone that everyone knows,
22:37
Speaker 1: you want to feel that welcoming spirit. You want to
22:39
Speaker 1: be able to have a smile on your face, even
22:42
Speaker 1: if it's not the greatest day, or even if you're
22:44
Speaker 1: not there to be an entertainer. But you gotta walk
22:48
Speaker 1: around with a good spirit and and exude positive energy.
22:51
Speaker 1: And you know you don't. You don't have to be
22:53
Speaker 1: everybody's best friend because your boss. Now, yeah, yeah, So
22:57
Speaker 1: I have to balance it, and you know, and and
22:59
Speaker 1: and you have have to monitor your energy as well.
23:02
Speaker 1: That's even in business as well. You gotta make sure
23:04
Speaker 1: you're not uh loosely giving away your energy to things
23:08
Speaker 1: that have uh no fruition and I have no power
23:11
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23:14
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23:17
Speaker 1: I'm always trying to be a pleasing individual. But you know,
23:22
Speaker 1: you gotta be stirring. You gotta be a businessman. And
23:24
Speaker 1: that's the fun part about you and you you made
23:26
Speaker 1: those decisions, you know, being a chairman, being a producer,
23:29
Speaker 1: being an EP, being a writer. Because in the end,
23:32
Speaker 1: because you have a group of friends, I always call
23:34
Speaker 1: you like the Lebron of of how you have a
23:38
Speaker 1: crew of people that have been with you for a
23:40
Speaker 1: long time. You know what I'm saying, Like Lebron from
23:43
Speaker 1: the day you know, I ran into I was so
23:44
Speaker 1: fun when I came by the Wild and I tap it.
23:46
Speaker 1: It was like a memory lane. When they walked up,
23:50
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23:53
Speaker 1: and all. That's crew. Man, It's so important and I
23:57
Speaker 1: think that keeps you grounded as well. Right absolutely, man,
23:59
Speaker 1: I like to dance with the people I came to
24:01
Speaker 1: the party with, you know, And that's the idea of
24:04
Speaker 1: to me, that's truly what success is all about. When
24:07
Speaker 1: you can share it with people who who knew you
24:10
Speaker 1: when you didn't have anything. And and you know, I
24:12
Speaker 1: got the same manager from that. The people who saw
24:15
Speaker 1: me in the improv still with me to this day.
24:18
Speaker 1: I mean, and you even speak of people who you know,
24:20
Speaker 1: we're like just my writing partners are now showrunners right right.
24:24
Speaker 1: And actually I learned that from you guys. I learned
24:26
Speaker 1: that watching and seeing how the camaraderie that you guys
24:30
Speaker 1: all had coming up and I was like, yo, I
24:31
Speaker 1: want to be able to do that and team are
24:33
Speaker 1: you're doing it very very well. So where's the brand
24:35
Speaker 1: going now with the voice because sometimes you step away
24:38
Speaker 1: and you're an activist and I love that about you.
24:40
Speaker 1: I was about to say, it's all about the community.
24:41
Speaker 1: For me, it's about giving other people opportunities. Uh, It's
24:44
Speaker 1: about opening doors and sharing the knowledge, wealth and wisdom
24:47
Speaker 1: that I've obtained with everyone else. I mean, you know,
24:50
Speaker 1: obviously I'm still in school. Hopefully you know, I'll be
24:53
Speaker 1: able to you know, h you Howard University. I want
24:56
Speaker 1: to go all the way I'm getting my masters, want
24:58
Speaker 1: to go to my doctorate and eventually be a professor.
25:01
Speaker 1: Uh and and teach the things that I've I've picked
25:05
Speaker 1: up along the way. But it's all about the community,
25:08
Speaker 1: whether it's teaching, whether it's entertaining, whether it's investing into us.
25:12
Speaker 1: That's what it's really about. You're already a professor. You
25:16
Speaker 1: already got your PhD. So you will get that degree.
25:19
Speaker 1: You may not do the whole four year run, but
25:21
Speaker 1: they will give it to you because you're always Your
25:23
Speaker 1: experience and your academic training in life will pay off
25:26
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25:28
Speaker 1: And I want to thank you for coming on the show,
25:30
Speaker 1: bron Oh Man. I appreciate you, hey, brother again, keep winning,
25:34
Speaker 1: keep up living in the community. When you do that,
25:37
Speaker 1: when you step out and do that, man, I smile
25:40
Speaker 1: even bigger than watching you and wild and out appreciate it. Man,
25:44
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Speaker 1: Bill Duke. God, bless you, my brother. Thanks for having me.
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Speaker 1: Hey Bill, how are you doing, my friend? I'm blessed man.
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Speaker 1: Thank you for having me on your show. Well, first
30:20
Speaker 1: of all, uh, you know, you know, I know your talents.
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Speaker 1: We we we've we kind of met a couple of
30:24
Speaker 1: times when you came by Steve Always Morning show and uh,
30:27
Speaker 1: he was always quiet, but always had a message about
30:30
Speaker 1: giving back man even Ben, that's that's about my fifteen
30:34
Speaker 1: years ago when we had that conversation. And I see
30:37
Speaker 1: you still maintaining that with your foundation. Talk to us
30:40
Speaker 1: about it before we get into the book. Well, it's
30:43
Speaker 1: the Duke Media Foundation and you can see it online
30:46
Speaker 1: at Duke Media Foundation dot org. This Media Foundation dot org.
30:49
Speaker 1: And we teach young people who are interested in our industry.
30:53
Speaker 1: Uh two things. One is media literacy. We've gone from
30:57
Speaker 1: some in television to Hulu, crackical, Amazon, Netflix, augmented reality,
31:06
Speaker 1: virtual reality, cell phone apps. I mean it goes on
31:09
Speaker 1: and on and on, and it's not about just purchasing
31:12
Speaker 1: those things. What are the jobs behind those issues? And
31:17
Speaker 1: the second thing we teach young people is financial literacy.
31:21
Speaker 1: We are taught how to spend money, but now to
31:23
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31:26
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31:29
Speaker 1: What is Wall Street? What's debt with his credit? Was
31:31
Speaker 1: his compound interest? What bones? So that they're given the
31:36
Speaker 1: information that they can utilize to their benefit in terms
31:40
Speaker 1: of leveraging dollars for themselves, that's really amazing. And what's
31:45
Speaker 1: the age group? And how can one uh I get
31:47
Speaker 1: a young person assuming this male and female? And what's
31:50
Speaker 1: the age group that participates in this in your foundation program?
31:54
Speaker 1: They're high schools from fourteen to eighteen years old, and
31:58
Speaker 1: we try to hold it four times a year. UM.
32:01
Speaker 1: We are constantly raking funds for it because you think
32:05
Speaker 1: we want to eventually take it national. Particularly, financial literacy
32:09
Speaker 1: is so important you know we were how to spend
32:12
Speaker 1: money for now to use it absolutely well, you know
32:16
Speaker 1: the thing about it is always used me as an asset,
32:18
Speaker 1: you know when you're doing it again. And Bill, first
32:21
Speaker 1: of all a fan, You've been like a mentor to
32:24
Speaker 1: me because I've watched your talent. Uh. People don't understand.
32:29
Speaker 1: You don't have to know somebody for somebody to be
32:32
Speaker 1: your mentor. It's just what they how they carry themselves,
32:35
Speaker 1: how they present themselves on screen, the accomplishments, and watching
32:38
Speaker 1: your career, I have to say you're you have been
32:41
Speaker 1: a mentor to me because you've laid the groundwork to
32:43
Speaker 1: say this can happen. This can happen. And you have
32:46
Speaker 1: a production company that that produces film and television show
32:49
Speaker 1: called Duke Media Entertainment. Let them let the fans and
32:52
Speaker 1: the listeners know about that. Well, we um trying our best,
32:57
Speaker 1: you know, to collaborate with them other company these UM Network, Studios, Online, etcetera.
33:03
Speaker 1: To create content. We call it entertainment and we don't
33:07
Speaker 1: creature anything, but we think that you know, you can
33:09
Speaker 1: entertain people but also give them a little nothing to
33:11
Speaker 1: think about, uh without you know, because we don't know everything,
33:16
Speaker 1: but you know there are issues that raise their heads
33:19
Speaker 1: that should be addressed and you can do it in
33:22
Speaker 1: an entertaining way. So we try our best to do that.
33:25
Speaker 1: And so um, that's that's that's our goal. Well, you
33:28
Speaker 1: know the interesting thing about having a production company, because
33:30
Speaker 1: I have one, is and but yours is way more
33:33
Speaker 1: advanced in mind, Bill, and is that when you think
33:37
Speaker 1: about how do people what are the wrong the incorrect
33:40
Speaker 1: way that people present ideas to try to pitch ideas
33:43
Speaker 1: to you? Aught your production company if you can give
33:46
Speaker 1: by by listeners, uh quick, how to and how don't
33:51
Speaker 1: to pitch an idea? Well, first of all, um, today
33:57
Speaker 1: pitching an idea UM A lot of the creative executives
34:00
Speaker 1: in our industry or accountant and you know you're going
34:05
Speaker 1: to pitch an idea verbally. I think you're going to
34:09
Speaker 1: protect yourself better if you have what it's called the
34:12
Speaker 1: deck and it's a visual digital presentation of the vision. Um,
34:17
Speaker 1: who is your basic audience? How many of them are there?
34:20
Speaker 1: What is your gender, et cetera. Have a little sizzle
34:23
Speaker 1: reel would be great, and have the script plus a synopsis.
34:27
Speaker 1: But to answer your vital questions, I used to go
34:31
Speaker 1: pitching with passion and all kinds of well my grandfather,
34:36
Speaker 1: great grandfather with a slave or whatever, and that of that.
34:39
Speaker 1: This is why it's important. And I pitched those ideas
34:42
Speaker 1: and I go back to my agent because no one
34:44
Speaker 1: picked the ideas up, and I said, what in the name,
34:46
Speaker 1: but what's going on? And so he said, hey, Bill,
34:50
Speaker 1: did you answer the essential questions in the first three
34:53
Speaker 1: minutes of the pitch? Said? What is that question? He said, Bill,
34:59
Speaker 1: what they want to know is I want to hell,
35:03
Speaker 1: you're gonna make me my money back. Yeah, that's true.
35:09
Speaker 1: That's true. I never thought about that. But you can't
35:13
Speaker 1: have all the past that you want if you can't
35:16
Speaker 1: tell them how you can make them the money back
35:18
Speaker 1: and ain't gonna work too Well, that's not gonna work
35:21
Speaker 1: at all. So that's so. It means they definitely having
35:23
Speaker 1: that deck. And I also have a sense of what
35:25
Speaker 1: a per episode costs is gonna be if that's if
35:28
Speaker 1: you're talking about because I was talking to a president
35:31
Speaker 1: of a network the other day and they asked me, uh,
35:33
Speaker 1: I was talking about a cooking show, he said, immediately asked.
35:35
Speaker 1: He immediately asked me, Okay, what's the prayer? Episode calls
35:38
Speaker 1: and I went, oh, I would uh, let me, let
35:42
Speaker 1: me get back with you. And because you know, because
35:44
Speaker 1: a lot of people thought, you know, I had to
35:46
Speaker 1: go there, you know, me, me, me had to go Uh.
35:48
Speaker 1: I didn't expect that to come out in this conversation
35:50
Speaker 1: so fast. I like that idea, what's the what's the
35:53
Speaker 1: proy episode costs? I went, uh, because you know you
35:57
Speaker 1: want to throwing the wrong number, throwing the wrong number?
35:58
Speaker 1: Killer deal? Are you throwing the wrong number? And you
36:01
Speaker 1: can lose money because you could have made more money?
36:03
Speaker 1: So you So I hesitated. And so because everybody is
36:06
Speaker 1: talking about digital, they're talking about streaming, they're talking about cable,
36:10
Speaker 1: they're talking about television, and each one of those carry
36:13
Speaker 1: a different price tag on what you can actually charge
36:16
Speaker 1: per episode or what you can accomplish production quality. So
36:20
Speaker 1: it's really amazing that you said that because I was
36:22
Speaker 1: victim of that last week bill. So that's that's what
36:25
Speaker 1: will So let's talk about this book. Let's talk about
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Speaker 1: this book. Man. I've read the book Bill Duke for
36:31
Speaker 1: your career on screen and behind the camera, um My, my,
36:34
Speaker 1: my first takeaway of this book because you were born
36:36
Speaker 1: and raised and bookkeeps it in New York. That's where IBM.
36:39
Speaker 1: I used to work for IBM. Sorry immediately uh related
36:43
Speaker 1: to that story, UM, tell me about why did you
36:46
Speaker 1: write this book? Bill? Well? I wrote it for several reasons.
36:51
Speaker 1: You know, it's um the legacy from my family, you know. UM,
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Speaker 1: I really wanted people to know about the era in
36:58
Speaker 1: which I grew up in and the people who guided
37:02
Speaker 1: me through that time and writing this book and when
37:06
Speaker 1: I was going through it, just the different levels because
37:09
Speaker 1: drugs played a negative role in your life and uh,
37:12
Speaker 1: and you was able to overcome that. But you know,
37:15
Speaker 1: the one thing that in your in the relationship because
37:18
Speaker 1: you were molested early on by a babysitter and that
37:22
Speaker 1: affected your your your your relationship with women over the years.
37:26
Speaker 1: And but I want I don't want to talk about that.
37:29
Speaker 1: I want to talk about you the pioneer, you know, Uh,
37:32
Speaker 1: you know early days of television, directing hit shows, you know,
37:37
Speaker 1: doing incredibly uh. I feel movies that I would out
37:41
Speaker 1: who I mean Deep Cover, which is one of my
37:43
Speaker 1: all time favorite movies. How did you make that transition
37:47
Speaker 1: to directing? Well, Um, I was directing, uh stage played
37:55
Speaker 1: uh in New York and out here in l A
37:58
Speaker 1: also it's always and I wrote my own stuff, but
38:02
Speaker 1: I was always intimidated by the equipment of you know,
38:04
Speaker 1: the cameras in me, the dolly grip, the dollies and
38:08
Speaker 1: uh and the lights and everything. And I just overwhelmed
38:11
Speaker 1: by that. And so UM I got um a show
38:16
Speaker 1: called Comatown USA by um you know normally and Alex
38:20
Speaker 1: Silly produced it. I was on a couple of seasons
38:24
Speaker 1: um Janelle Allen and myself, but then I didn't work
38:26
Speaker 1: two years after that, and I said I would, I
38:29
Speaker 1: would to get over this year because I have to
38:30
Speaker 1: have more than one skill. I applied to the American
38:33
Speaker 1: Film Institute, got in and thank god ahead, I said, wow,
38:39
Speaker 1: that's awesome, and uh, I got a film out of
38:42
Speaker 1: that called The Hero, and it got some recognition. I
38:44
Speaker 1: shot it around to everybody. They wouldn't take it, and
38:48
Speaker 1: so they won't let me directly. I went away on
38:50
Speaker 1: a retreat for um meditation. I'm a transible meditation practitioner,
38:57
Speaker 1: and I wanted to cheap my agent Coos, and he says,
38:59
Speaker 1: Uhdavid Jacobs wanting to see you from not landing music producer.
39:04
Speaker 1: I said what, So I flew. I went back and
39:07
Speaker 1: met with David Jacobs. It was like a strange little meeting,
39:10
Speaker 1: very brief, and then um, for my age, it's not
39:12
Speaker 1: gonna happen. A week later, the agent calls me and said,
39:15
Speaker 1: David Jacobs wants you to direct the first episode not Landing.
39:19
Speaker 1: I cheered. I was so happy. Then I went to
39:23
Speaker 1: work and I was there for like, you know, prepping
39:27
Speaker 1: the the U And the last day of prep, Joe
39:30
Speaker 1: Walentine comes says, do you know we know you're gonna
39:32
Speaker 1: be a great director from your real I said, what reel?
39:36
Speaker 1: Well the view you turned into David? I said, no,
39:38
Speaker 1: I just got to he's a wait a minute. He
39:40
Speaker 1: goes to the David Jacob's office. David Jacobs had mixed
39:44
Speaker 1: my box up with someone else's. That's why I got
39:49
Speaker 1: my first job. That's a blessing. That's a blessing, but God,
39:54
Speaker 1: God blessing. But also the obviously I was going to
39:56
Speaker 1: tell you was about my first day on Dallas. I
39:59
Speaker 1: was the first black director on Dallas. And I go
40:01
Speaker 1: to the gates and I rolled the window down and
40:04
Speaker 1: the security guard said to me, who are you delivering for?
40:10
Speaker 1: That was that was a moment, and that's all I
40:14
Speaker 1: read that in the book and let everybody know that
40:16
Speaker 1: I don't want to get wear all them nuggets, Bill,
40:17
Speaker 1: because I remember that. And you you you paused momentarily
40:20
Speaker 1: because you didn't want to like become a become a
40:23
Speaker 1: black panther back in the day black pather on it.
40:27
Speaker 1: But do me a favor. First of all, thank you
40:30
Speaker 1: for taking the time to come on my show. I
40:32
Speaker 1: really want to bring you back, because man, just like
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43:26
Speaker 1: born and raised in the super Bowl City, Philip and
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Speaker 1: one of the stars of the new seat of your
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Speaker 1: hit superhero series Black lights She plays the role of
43:42
Speaker 1: Anisa Pears a k A. Thunder, the Passionate and quick Way,
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Speaker 1: your daughter of Black Lightning, and she's the co owner
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Speaker 1: of Saturday Dreaming. Saturday Dreaming is an online fashion boutique
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Speaker 1: inspired by women who are following their dreams and embracing
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Speaker 1: their individuality along the way. Please welcome to Money Making
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Speaker 1: Conversation Now, Fisa Williams, thank you what a warm what
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Speaker 1: a warm wacome or you know, if you if I
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Speaker 1: would have said more, but I got nervous because you
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Speaker 1: were talking and cheering in the background. You know, there
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Speaker 1: are rules to introduction the FISA. The rules. Now, I
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Speaker 1: know you're on this popular sere. Let's let's let's get
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Speaker 1: to let's get to this series. First of all, who
44:22
Speaker 1: are yet right now? Where are you're at talking to
44:24
Speaker 1: me from? I'm home and home is home? Is right now?
44:29
Speaker 1: Atlanta or Atlanta, Georgia. Okay, you could have come in
44:34
Speaker 1: studio and did this interview girl this, I'm really mad. Now,
44:39
Speaker 1: I'm really mad. Now to make you mad, don't make
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Speaker 1: me mad. Because you're a superhero. You're superhero, You're thunder.
44:45
Speaker 1: Thunder can make a difference. Now, let's talk about We've
44:48
Speaker 1: got a lot of things to talk about. Your your
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Speaker 1: your give back programs, uh, your uplifting programs by Saturday's Dreaming.
44:56
Speaker 1: Let's talk about it and some of the shows you've
44:57
Speaker 1: done before. Let's talk about Black Lightning. How you auditioned
45:01
Speaker 1: for that role and how it is so it's changing
45:06
Speaker 1: the game for you know, we all know about Black Panther,
45:10
Speaker 1: we all know about that, but Black Lightning has carved
45:13
Speaker 1: out his own niches is playing very well on Netflix.
45:17
Speaker 1: I follow it and I went from CT Did you
45:19
Speaker 1: know you're hot when Netflix picked you up a quickly.
45:22
Speaker 1: That's a good sign right there that you've got something
45:23
Speaker 1: going on. So tell us about how did you audition
45:27
Speaker 1: and how your life has changed that you've been associated
45:30
Speaker 1: with Black Lightning. Well, I got the call from my
45:33
Speaker 1: manager about a year and a half ago that I
45:36
Speaker 1: had this all this thing called Black Lightning. I didn't.
45:38
Speaker 1: I never I never heard of Black Lightning. Never knew
45:41
Speaker 1: that we even had a black superhero along with his
45:45
Speaker 1: family that was a part of the d C universe.
45:49
Speaker 1: Never knew. So I go, I never knew either. Don't
45:51
Speaker 1: worry about it. I never do. I never knew. But
45:53
Speaker 1: I get the script and I was like, first of all,
45:58
Speaker 1: knowing that Mara instantly mckill over at the helm of
46:01
Speaker 1: it all, and they were the writers and the executive producers.
46:04
Speaker 1: I knew that this would be a good show because
46:06
Speaker 1: their work speaks for itself. I'm a huge fan of
46:08
Speaker 1: their work, always wanted to work with them. So I
46:11
Speaker 1: was first excited to read the script because I knew
46:13
Speaker 1: they were attached to it. So I read the script
46:16
Speaker 1: and I was like, I just appreciated the story. Most
46:19
Speaker 1: superheroes you see are, you know, in their early twenties,
46:23
Speaker 1: and here with Black Lightning, you have a middle age
46:26
Speaker 1: man with the family who is a high school principle.
46:30
Speaker 1: We've just never seen or heard this story before. And
46:32
Speaker 1: I appreciated the strong, bold, and independent female characters that
46:37
Speaker 1: they created within this world. So I went in for
46:40
Speaker 1: the job and I was like, listen, y'all y'all looking
46:42
Speaker 1: for me. I felt so connected. I felt so connected
46:47
Speaker 1: to the character and felt so connected to the story
46:50
Speaker 1: that I just really went in so focused, and I said,
46:53
Speaker 1: just go in and let them know that you are her.
46:56
Speaker 1: And that was just the goal, you know, to go
46:58
Speaker 1: in and and show them that I understood this character
47:02
Speaker 1: and that I was really wanting to give my voice
47:04
Speaker 1: over to her and I under you know, I just
47:06
Speaker 1: said everything about her world so um coming from a
47:09
Speaker 1: city like Silly, I understand some of the problems that
47:13
Speaker 1: that that the city Freeland faces within the show, and
47:16
Speaker 1: just wanting to be a voice for that and hopefully
47:19
Speaker 1: spark change, you know, with within our country, within our city,
47:23
Speaker 1: because you don't see a superhero, you know, with his family,
47:26
Speaker 1: as I mentioned before, you you know, you usually see
47:28
Speaker 1: this young superhero flying and jumping all around, and you
47:31
Speaker 1: have this family of superheroes and and that's just an
47:35
Speaker 1: amazing concept of a really cool idea. And kudo to
47:38
Speaker 1: everyone over at d C and Tony, Isabella and Trevor
47:43
Speaker 1: who created you know, this, this this character. Yeah, let's
47:46
Speaker 1: let's talk about this show. Here about Rushawn McDonald black
47:50
Speaker 1: lightning experience, because It's really all about me. Really, you know,
47:53
Speaker 1: I'm a fan's a fan. I'm a fan. Okay, So
47:57
Speaker 1: so I'm seeing it being promoted. I know. In fact,
48:00
Speaker 1: I didn't know that uh Mara, the slave family had
48:04
Speaker 1: been involved, was involved in it at all. I just
48:06
Speaker 1: saw this and my first thought was they would not
48:09
Speaker 1: have the production quality is a black show. I thought
48:12
Speaker 1: they wouldn't have the production quality to deliver the special effect.
48:16
Speaker 1: That that was my first thought. Rushin had already made
48:18
Speaker 1: some preconceived thoughts that he wasn't gonna watch thoughts. These
48:23
Speaker 1: are my thoughts, And I'm just trying to be honest,
48:24
Speaker 1: you know, I said, you know they probably you know
48:27
Speaker 1: they do. You know, they're trying to get on the
48:29
Speaker 1: hype of the Black Panther dropping this little black show in.
48:32
Speaker 1: And you know, I ain't wasted my time because I'm
48:34
Speaker 1: a superhero nut by the way, this week okay, okay.
48:38
Speaker 1: So so then my wife she knows I'm a superhero nut,
48:41
Speaker 1: so she says, she watches the premiere and then she goes,
48:44
Speaker 1: you better watch the show. I go, why you best
48:48
Speaker 1: watched the show? You're missing something? I said, really really,
48:52
Speaker 1: well whatever, so she recalled for three weeks went by.
48:55
Speaker 1: I didn't watch the show, she said, and she's watching
48:59
Speaker 1: it and giving me like updates. Would you stop telling
49:03
Speaker 1: me I'm not gonna watch the show so I wish,
49:05
Speaker 1: she said. She set me down. I binge watched the
49:09
Speaker 1: first three episodes. I've missed and have not missed an
49:12
Speaker 1: episode since. You can give me. Give me a quiz
49:15
Speaker 1: right now, pass that's how much of a fan because
49:21
Speaker 1: I'm gonna telling you why. Because of the fact that,
49:23
Speaker 1: first of all, the villains are fantastic. The villains are fantastic.
49:28
Speaker 1: That's key to me. You know, do the villains have credibility?
49:31
Speaker 1: Do you do they throw fear in you? Do? They do?
49:34
Speaker 1: They do? They do? They map out? And then all
49:36
Speaker 1: of a sudden there's innate danger that the secret can
49:39
Speaker 1: I get out? And then the dynamic between their their
49:43
Speaker 1: their parents because they're divorced, and she divorced him because
49:47
Speaker 1: he was a superhero, because she didn't want to deal
49:49
Speaker 1: with the pressure of him fighting crime. The same thing
49:54
Speaker 1: her daughter. She I love the fact that the daughter
49:56
Speaker 1: got a little to Mama and her I'm talking about
49:58
Speaker 1: the younger daughter. And then Thunder, who I'm interviewing right now,
50:01
Speaker 1: she got all daddy in her. She all about saving
50:04
Speaker 1: the community. She all about stepping out there. Teller were
50:08
Speaker 1: right now, she thunder, but she realizes that she can't
50:11
Speaker 1: because the people know how to attack and know how
50:13
Speaker 1: to get the family. That's why the superheroes can't tell
50:15
Speaker 1: her who they are. That's why superheroes really can't have
50:17
Speaker 1: loved ones. That's why this show works because the fact
50:20
Speaker 1: that they are family and the fact that let's let's
50:23
Speaker 1: put his way. Uh, it'd be like the Cosby's superheroes
50:28
Speaker 1: because they the fathers of principle. I'm just telling you listening,
50:31
Speaker 1: the fathers of principles, that's all. That's a really recognized
50:34
Speaker 1: and good job. The moms are scientists. She's a doctor,
50:39
Speaker 1: so that's another high profile profession. So you have two
50:42
Speaker 1: people who got two beautiful daughters once in high school.
50:46
Speaker 1: Wants wants your characters finished college? Correct? No, No, she's
50:51
Speaker 1: still currently in medical school. I'm saying, boy, your boys
50:54
Speaker 1: stand on top his gay And before we go, I
50:58
Speaker 1: want to talk about some of the get back program
51:00
Speaker 1: you work with, the Skit Role campaign. Do let's talk
51:04
Speaker 1: about that before we go, because I wanted to everybody's
51:07
Speaker 1: shape all your lifestyle. You know that you do have
51:10
Speaker 1: time for the for individuals, your character that you just
51:13
Speaker 1: you do a TV really transcend to your everyday life.
51:16
Speaker 1: Tell us about your efforts in the community. Thank you.
51:19
Speaker 1: I just believe that, you know, it's our duty to
51:22
Speaker 1: serve and to give back, especially when you've been blessed
51:25
Speaker 1: so much. Much is given, much is required. And I
51:28
Speaker 1: believe that the secret and service, you know, and we're
51:30
Speaker 1: we're put here to bless each other and too, you know,
51:33
Speaker 1: inspire and empower each other. And that's pretty much my
51:35
Speaker 1: life mission, I believe. You know, Um, life begins when
51:39
Speaker 1: you start to follow your dreams and understand what your purposes.
51:42
Speaker 1: And then the once you understand what your purposes, your
51:45
Speaker 1: job next is to help the next person, you know,
51:49
Speaker 1: discover what THEIRS is and encourage them to follow THEIRS.
51:52
Speaker 1: So um, that's just basically you know, I try to
51:54
Speaker 1: live by that rule. I go down to ski Role
51:57
Speaker 1: while I was going when I was in l A.
51:59
Speaker 1: And I try to go when I go when I
52:01
Speaker 1: you know, when I'm not filming, but it's the Peggy
52:04
Speaker 1: Beatrice Foundation, and we go down to Steer Road, we closed,
52:08
Speaker 1: we see, we pray, you know, just incur sometimes just listen,
52:11
Speaker 1: you know, being a listening ear. And I love doing it.
52:15
Speaker 1: I'm most happy when I'm when i'm serving and when
52:18
Speaker 1: i'm giving. So um, that's that's definitely one of one
52:21
Speaker 1: of my favorite things to be doing. And I get
52:25
Speaker 1: please keep doing it real quickly tell everybody about Saturday
52:28
Speaker 1: uh Dreaming one more time when we close out the show,
52:31
Speaker 1: how they can find it and what exactly it is. Yeah,
52:35
Speaker 1: So Saturday Dreaming is my own, my online bouchik. I'm
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Speaker 1: a co owner with my best friends in thirteen years old,
52:40
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52:47
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52:49
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53:15
Speaker 1: I want to see how you look awesome. I want
53:17
Speaker 1: to tell you that Black Lightning she's one of the stars.
53:20
Speaker 1: I wanna let you know that you're the only person
53:22
Speaker 1: I've ever interviewed from Black Lightning. That's not that's saying
53:25
Speaker 1: that I came to you first and you came back.
53:28
Speaker 1: You showed me love. I'm giving love back to you.
53:30
Speaker 1: I love the show. I love all the characters. Keep winning,
53:35
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