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- 3:49Speaker 1: My guest is a former NBA and NFL agent. I
- 3:53Speaker 1: love this guy. He's an attorney in Charlotte, North Carolina.
- 3:56Speaker 1: If you've never been to Charlotte, great food in that city.
- 3:59Speaker 1: He is handling a litigated personal entry and the author
- 4:02Speaker 1: of a very popular novel, Dark Matters. Let me tell
- 4:06Speaker 1: you why I've read this book. What what? What is
- 4:09Speaker 1: the South? What if the South had won the Civil War?
- 4:13Speaker 1: Dark Matters? What if the South had won the Civil War?
- 4:17Speaker 1: That's a creative mind. Please work with the Money Making
- 4:19Speaker 1: Conversations Master Class. Attorney Ken Harris.
- 4:24Speaker 3: Sean, how were you doing, my friend, Ken?
- 4:26Speaker 2: How did you? Okay? Now you're busy. We're gonna get
- 4:28Speaker 2: to the busy part.
- 4:29Speaker 1: But I got to I got to jump in this
- 4:31Speaker 1: book because you know, we've been This book been in
- 4:33Speaker 1: our lives for a minute.
- 4:35Speaker 2: You know.
- 4:35Speaker 1: Has been well reviewed online and various publications have talked
- 4:39Speaker 1: about Dark matters.
- 4:40Speaker 2: What if the South just give me a dark trade? Excuse me?
- 4:44Speaker 1: Uh, I apologize dark trades? What if the South had
- 4:47Speaker 1: won the Civil War? Now, tell us about why you
- 4:52Speaker 1: wrote the book.
- 4:55Speaker 3: You know, Rushawan, as you know, I have a long
- 4:57Speaker 3: history of advocate see related to the African American community.
- 5:03Speaker 3: You know, my mentor is my big brother, Urban Magic Johnson.
- 5:07Speaker 3: I've worked with and under mister Johnson for twenty five
- 5:11Speaker 3: years now, and we've always had a concern about us
- 5:15Speaker 3: in the African American community having the proper historical perspective.
- 5:21Speaker 3: And I always thought, hey, do you know how close
- 5:24Speaker 3: we came to losing the Civil War? You know, battles
- 5:27Speaker 3: at Gettysburg and Vicksburg were very close contests. What if
- 5:33Speaker 3: we had lost that war? What would it be like
- 5:35Speaker 3: for the African American community now? Would slavery still exist?
- 5:41Speaker 3: And if it still existed, would there be something inside
- 5:45Speaker 3: the African American community and African Americans that would have
- 5:49Speaker 3: allowed us to still overcome? And that was the inspiration
- 5:54Speaker 3: for the book. The setting is the year twenty eighteen.
- 5:58Speaker 3: We're in Baltimore, and the story is about a slave
- 6:02Speaker 3: journey to freedom despite the weight and heaviness of the
- 6:09Speaker 3: oppression of slavery.
- 6:10Speaker 1: Right now, let me ask you this because of the
- 6:13Speaker 1: fact that I went to the Getty's Gettysburg. You know,
- 6:17Speaker 1: I was doing a session up there, and it was close. Man.
- 6:20Speaker 1: If you if you go see the Battle of Gettysburg,
- 6:23Speaker 1: you go it was close because they weren't that far
- 6:26Speaker 1: from the White House. There was there was a couple
- 6:29Speaker 1: of little mistakes, a couple of level degrees of arrogance,
- 6:32Speaker 1: and one guy, their top general. This guy was his strategist.
- 6:36Speaker 1: I'm just gonna let everybody know he was accidentally killed
- 6:40Speaker 1: by his own men. If that guy, and I'm not
- 6:44Speaker 1: gonna tell you you need to learn your history. That's
- 6:46Speaker 1: what this interview is about us understanding our historical perspective
- 6:51Speaker 1: on the big what if, because guess what, we're living
- 6:54Speaker 1: in a giant what if right now?
- 6:56Speaker 2: Okay, you know, right now.
- 6:59Speaker 1: You can call it politics, you can call it Trumpism,
- 7:02Speaker 1: you can call it whatever you want. To talk is
- 7:04Speaker 1: that we have to understand that history can repeat itself.
- 7:07Speaker 1: It just designed in different ways. But when I went
- 7:10Speaker 1: to the Gettysburg Gettysburg for that meeting, and I took
- 7:13Speaker 1: that tour, Attorney Harris I was stunned, I can believe
- 7:18Speaker 1: the information. Then I went home and watched the documentary
- 7:22Speaker 1: and I was like, wow, talk to us man.
- 7:26Speaker 3: It was so close to the South winning the Civil War.
- 7:30Speaker 3: It could have happened. The book Dark Trades assumes that
- 7:34Speaker 3: the capital of the United States is now in Richmond. Yes,
- 7:39Speaker 3: but if you really just about how the mechanism, I'm sorry,
- 7:44Speaker 3: the structure of slavery would have proliferated throughout the United
- 7:49Speaker 3: States and grown and like a virus basically, but what
- 7:54Speaker 3: would have also grown was this underlying strength of our
- 7:58Speaker 3: community to still'll fight to overcome. The question is whether
- 8:02Speaker 3: or not there would be enough strength to overcome slavery
- 8:07Speaker 3: even in modern day times. And that's what the book
- 8:10Speaker 3: is about.
- 8:10Speaker 1: Yeah, because you really it does. It's everything's a timeline.
- 8:13Speaker 1: You know, academics tied to HBCU started after slavery, where
- 8:17Speaker 1: there was some there was a couple of HBCUs that started,
- 8:20Speaker 1: you know, prior to slavery's you know, in Eradication of slavery.
- 8:25Speaker 1: But basically HBCU started after that, and it was started
- 8:28Speaker 1: And I'm just just just piggybacking on Dark Trades because
- 8:32Speaker 1: what attorney Harris is saying is that, you know, we
- 8:36Speaker 1: still had to create our own models for academics. Even
- 8:39Speaker 1: when slavery was won by the North, we still had
- 8:44Speaker 1: to create academic training for our people.
- 8:47Speaker 2: So what if they.
- 8:48Speaker 1: Would have won, what would that academic training it would
- 8:51Speaker 1: have looked, like, Attorney Harris.
- 8:54Speaker 3: It's so interesting because we have a national campaign to
- 8:58Speaker 3: get people's thoughts on what would have had and had
- 9:01Speaker 3: the South won the Civil War. Some people say that,
- 9:05Speaker 3: you know, slavery continues in certain ways from a mental
- 9:08Speaker 3: aspect and an emotional aspect related to how the African
- 9:13Speaker 3: American has been treated. Some people say that had the
- 9:17Speaker 3: South won the Civil War, slavery would at some point
- 9:21Speaker 3: still have disappeared in the United States. But the vast
- 9:26Speaker 3: majority of people that we talked to across the country
- 9:28Speaker 3: say that had the South won the Civil War, slavery
- 9:31Speaker 3: would still be an institution here in the United States.
- 9:35Speaker 3: African Americans would still be brutally oppressed, yes, and it
- 9:39Speaker 3: would be a situation that we would have to overcome
- 9:42Speaker 3: even in today's world.
- 9:43Speaker 1: So wow, we're talking to Attorney Ken Harris. He's based
- 9:47Speaker 1: out of Charlotte, North Carolina. Went up there in Hungary
- 9:49Speaker 1: with him a couple of times. Doc Trades is this
- 9:51Speaker 1: book is a controversy historical fiction novel that discusses what
- 9:56Speaker 1: if the South had won the Civil War. That's just
- 9:58Speaker 1: part of your life. Part of your life, you know,
- 10:01Speaker 1: former NBA and NFL agent. When you look at these salaries, now,
- 10:05Speaker 1: did you get out of the game too early?
- 10:09Speaker 3: And I got out of the game too early before
- 10:11Speaker 3: it's a.
- 10:13Speaker 2: Did you get out?
- 10:14Speaker 3: I got? Maybe I got out when I did. But
- 10:17Speaker 3: I tell you what, when you look at some of
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- 10:22Speaker 3: to college together, and I heard Michael say at one
- 10:26Speaker 3: point that kids now are being played paid for what
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- 10:34Speaker 3: And I think that's the difference. When I was an agent,
- 10:37Speaker 3: you still had to kind of earn it to get
- 10:40Speaker 3: to that big salary. Nowadays, within I L and uh,
- 10:45Speaker 3: you know situations involving uh, you know what you can
- 10:48Speaker 3: get after your rookie salary. Uh, these are situations where
- 10:51Speaker 3: oftentimes payers are being played paid historical amounts of money
- 10:55Speaker 3: before they've really earned it as a superstar. So it's
- 10:59Speaker 3: definitely an interesting dynamic now I.
- 11:02Speaker 1: Got to talk to you about this because you know
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- 11:19Speaker 1: Is it really do athletes really don't? Is it a
- 11:23Speaker 1: tremendous or high rate of financial failure for professional athletes
- 11:28Speaker 1: that we read about.
- 11:29Speaker 2: That's just a rumor.
- 11:31Speaker 3: No, that's true. And the problem is you could.
- 11:35Speaker 2: Have slowed down with that. You just flew right there.
- 11:40Speaker 3: And in shine that. The reality is athletes are focused
- 11:44Speaker 3: on learning their trade as a professional athlete. Where is
- 11:48Speaker 3: the master class or the money making conversation for an
- 11:53Speaker 3: athlete about how to preserve and utilize their resources once
- 11:58Speaker 3: they get money and they need a rushin McDonald, They
- 12:01Speaker 3: need these types of conversations. We're still lacking. And it
- 12:05Speaker 3: hasn't it gotten worse because with the proliferation of nil,
- 12:09Speaker 3: the individuals or kids who are getting substantial amounts of
- 12:14Speaker 3: money are getting younger, right, so they have even less
- 12:17Speaker 3: training about how to preserve and utilize those resources. And
- 12:22Speaker 3: then we've got a challenge in our community because our
- 12:25Speaker 3: community have not typically been trained up to understand how
- 12:29Speaker 3: to utilize and preserve their money. So it is a
- 12:34Speaker 3: it is a very serious problem for sure.
- 12:36Speaker 1: Well, see this blows my mind. Let me just talk
- 12:39Speaker 1: about justin Jefferson's contract here. Okay, it's one hundred and
- 12:43Speaker 1: forty million dollars. One hundred and ten million dollars was guaranteed.
- 12:50Speaker 1: Now listen to me, everybody, when he signs his contract,
- 12:55Speaker 1: they're going to hand him or check for eighty three
- 12:58Speaker 1: million dollars. Please help me, Attorney Harris to sit down
- 13:05Speaker 1: and say who does he have to have around him
- 13:09Speaker 1: immediately to make sure that check doesn't go immediately to
- 13:14Speaker 1: the government, to make sure he that check allows him
- 13:18Speaker 1: to basically walk away and never play football again if
- 13:21Speaker 1: he wanted to after his contract expires. What team does
- 13:25Speaker 1: he have to have around him when he gets a
- 13:27Speaker 1: contract like that?
- 13:30Speaker 2: You know?
- 13:30Speaker 3: Is it true? The requirement is that you have good attorneys,
- 13:35Speaker 3: good investment advisors who are conservative. You have to have
- 13:39Speaker 3: good accountants. But unfortunately that infrastructure does not exist around
- 13:45Speaker 3: many players who get money like that, and so in
- 13:49Speaker 3: the absence of that infrastructure, you substitute in other individuals
- 13:54Speaker 3: who are less qualified to advise the player about what
- 13:58Speaker 3: he should do or she should to do with their money.
- 14:02Speaker 3: And you know, the sad thing about it is, once
- 14:05Speaker 3: that money is spent, Rushan is brutal because that money
- 14:08Speaker 3: is gone. You don't get that back. There's no sympathy
- 14:12Speaker 3: out there for someone who made fifty or sixty million
- 14:15Speaker 3: dollars through out their career, right, and it's gone.
- 14:18Speaker 2: It's just gone, just like Brown.
- 14:20Speaker 1: Did you read about him filing bankruptcy? You know, I
- 14:22Speaker 1: know he's done some crazy things on him last year,
- 14:24Speaker 1: but he made almost roughly eighty million dollars.
- 14:29Speaker 3: And isn't it true that the tenure of a professional
- 14:32Speaker 3: athlete is very short?
- 14:34Speaker 2: Right?
- 14:34Speaker 3: So the point you made earlier is very accurate. What
- 14:37Speaker 3: does the player do after that short tenure? And unfortunately,
- 14:44Speaker 3: it doesn't typically end up with them surrounding themselves with
- 14:46Speaker 3: the people who are capable of helping them manage their money.
- 14:49Speaker 1: I'm gonna just tell you something I have on the
- 14:52Speaker 1: phone with me one of the most interesting attorneys in
- 14:56Speaker 1: this country. We already started out with the novel dark Trades,
- 14:59Speaker 1: right then we went over to former NBA NFL agent.
- 15:03Speaker 2: Now, when we.
- 15:03Speaker 1: Come back personal injury litigations man, and we ain't even
- 15:10Speaker 1: got the energy yet, so you know you coming back.
- 15:13Speaker 1: When we come back, I want to talk about the explosion.
- 15:17Speaker 1: If you don't mind of personal injury litigation all right,
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- 15:26Speaker 1: who's based in Charlotte, North Carolina.
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- 15:55Speaker 1: My guess, Attorney Ken Harris is probably one of the
- 15:59Speaker 1: most money making conversationalists conversationists guess I've ever had. Let
- 16:04Speaker 1: me get a little background. We talked about Dark Trades,
- 16:07Speaker 1: the controversial historical and I say controversial in a good
- 16:10Speaker 1: way because if it's a book that you want to
- 16:12Speaker 1: pick up and read, it's a book that I would recommend.
- 16:15Speaker 1: What if the South had won the Civil War? The
- 16:17Speaker 1: name of the book is Dark Trades is written by
- 16:20Speaker 1: Attorney Ken Harris now Ken Harris went to college with
- 16:24Speaker 1: Michael Jordan. We all know Michael Jorge, a billionaire, billionaire.
- 16:27Speaker 1: Everybody know that for the last twenty five years he's
- 16:32Speaker 1: handled many business matters for another billionaire.
- 16:36Speaker 2: Every Magic Johnson, we all know.
- 16:38Speaker 1: Here, Bellion there, Bellionaire, other notables in his roster of relationship.
- 16:44Speaker 1: Matthew knows you know if you don't know him, Founded,
- 16:48Speaker 1: Destiny Child, Beyonce.
- 16:52Speaker 2: Billionaire millionnaire.
- 16:53Speaker 1: This billionaire has left and right when you have this
- 16:56Speaker 1: resume like that, Attorney Harry, what do you think because
- 17:01Speaker 1: sometimes you just grinding and sometimes you don't realize how
- 17:07Speaker 1: powerful you've participated in the academic structure of academic success stories.
- 17:12Speaker 2: Talk to us man.
- 17:14Speaker 3: You know that's why I love and respect you so much,
- 17:18Speaker 3: because I've watched what you've done for others in a
- 17:22Speaker 3: selfless manner, and you've worked with individuals who are very
- 17:27Speaker 3: similar to Magic and Matthew Knowles and people like that.
- 17:32Speaker 3: But you know the key for me, and I'm glad
- 17:34Speaker 3: you're letting me talk a little bit about Magic and
- 17:36Speaker 3: mister Knowles. I sat there and I felt blessed by
- 17:40Speaker 3: God to have a chance to absorb their knowledge and
- 17:44Speaker 3: their capabilities and their ability to maneuver the business world.
- 17:49Speaker 3: I think both are underappreciated. I'll start with mister Knowles.
- 17:53Speaker 3: Mister Knowles has gone through a period of time where
- 17:56Speaker 3: I think the national community has failed to recognize what
- 18:01Speaker 3: he accomplished in the music world. His accomplishments are historic
- 18:08Speaker 3: and unique. And what he did with this Destiny's Child,
- 18:12Speaker 3: how he brought up Beyonce and Solange was not only
- 18:16Speaker 3: self list, but it was also historic in terms of accomplishment.
- 18:23Speaker 3: Many people don't know Rushan that mister Knowles was a
- 18:25Speaker 3: millionaire before Destiny's Child became popular. He was one of
- 18:32Speaker 3: the top salesmen at IBM before Destiny's Child became popular.
- 18:38Speaker 3: He sacrificed that you talk about money making opportunities, he
- 18:43Speaker 3: sacrificed that million dollar making background to work with his
- 18:48Speaker 3: daughters and developed their careers. So when you say Beyonce,
- 18:52Speaker 3: regardless of anything else that you think about, you have
- 18:56Speaker 3: to mention his name because he's the one who sacrificed
- 19:00Speaker 3: is to help her develop her career. The same with Magic.
- 19:04Speaker 3: Magic to me, when I'm with him and when I've
- 19:08Speaker 3: been with him over the last twenty five years, and
- 19:10Speaker 3: what we've done deals. I've been in complete and utter awe.
- 19:15Speaker 3: I've never seen a person. You know Bushan, you met him,
- 19:19Speaker 3: You've been there with me and him. I know he
- 19:21Speaker 3: is so meticulous as a business person, so dedicated to
- 19:27Speaker 3: his craft as a business person. What I've learned from
- 19:31Speaker 3: him is that the success lies in the details, are
- 19:36Speaker 3: not in the hype. And I've watched him quietly in meetings,
- 19:42Speaker 3: the way the meetings are structured and organized for us
- 19:44Speaker 3: when we have meetings, how prepared he is. There was
- 19:49Speaker 3: a time, I don't know if you remember where Magic
- 19:51Speaker 3: had the Rushan. You remember he had the.
- 19:53Speaker 1: Theater and Los Angeles Beverly, absolutely right there off of Crenshaw.
- 20:00Speaker 3: What you know what sent me strength concerning Magic was
- 20:03Speaker 3: we were going to one of his theaters one day
- 20:06Speaker 3: to do sort of well, we're gonna sit down watch
- 20:08Speaker 3: a movie in talk business. And he was talking about
- 20:11Speaker 3: the popcorn and how much popcorn was being sold in
- 20:14Speaker 3: the theater. And I said, how in the world does
- 20:17Speaker 3: Magic have time to be concerned about how much popcorn
- 20:23Speaker 3: the theater is selling when we set up these Starbucks
- 20:26Speaker 3: and Charlotte on Wilkinson Boulevard. If you live here in Charlotte, Sir.
- 20:31Speaker 3: He was concerned about the menu, the not having scones.
- 20:36Speaker 3: He wanted to have sweet potato pie.
- 20:38Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 20:41Speaker 3: Making sure that the store had commodities that were appropriate
- 20:46Speaker 3: for the community. The demographic. Oh man, these gentlemen are
- 20:54Speaker 3: giants from a business standpoint. Uh And and I think
- 20:58Speaker 3: that our community, he certainly has an obligation to recognize
- 21:02Speaker 3: why they they are where they are, not give them
- 21:06Speaker 3: any hype or recognition for what they achieved financially. I'm
- 21:10Speaker 3: talking about the why of it all. Why are they
- 21:13Speaker 3: where they are? That's where the learning is concerning magic
- 21:16Speaker 3: and miss and all.
- 21:17Speaker 2: And let me follow up this.
- 21:18Speaker 1: I'm from Houston, Texas, ladies and gentlemen, And nineteen ninety
- 21:21Speaker 1: two is when I met Matthew Knows because he's from Houston, Texas,
- 21:25Speaker 1: and I brought Destiny Child on stage at my comedic club,
- 21:29Speaker 1: hip Hop Commics Stuff for the very first time. So
- 21:32Speaker 1: I saw it in the beginning. I saw him when
- 21:34Speaker 1: he was running around town trying to do every little
- 21:36Speaker 1: talent show with these This is the original group, the
- 21:40Speaker 1: original members of Destiny's Child. So I saw that what
- 21:43Speaker 1: you were talking about, that desire, that love that passion
- 21:47Speaker 1: that made all these individuals successful today. Then on Magic Johnson,
- 21:52Speaker 1: I'm men, just tell you everybody something about Magic Johnson.
- 21:55Speaker 1: I moved to la in nineteen ninety, well sort of
- 21:59Speaker 1: mager Steve Harve in two thousand. Magic Johnson. If you've
- 22:04Speaker 1: ever met him, if you ever shook shake his hand,
- 22:07Speaker 1: he will act like you're the most important person that
- 22:12Speaker 1: he's shaking his hand with. I mean, you know, I
- 22:16Speaker 1: ran in the magic when we did that event in
- 22:18Speaker 1: Charlotte about a year and a half ago. I saw
- 22:21Speaker 1: magic in like five years, Magic looked across the room RuSHA.
- 22:26Speaker 2: You know, you know I'm humble. I'm like, you know,
- 22:28Speaker 2: you know this Magic John's. It's always gonna be this
- 22:30Speaker 2: Magic Johnson.
- 22:31Speaker 1: You know the thing about when you say this Magic
- 22:32Speaker 1: john You're always gonna bow down a little bit because
- 22:34Speaker 1: this is Magic Johnson. When he walks in the room,
- 22:37Speaker 1: I kid you not, ladies and gentlemen and Attorney Ken Harrison,
- 22:40Speaker 1: back this up. I've never seen the talent walk in
- 22:43Speaker 1: the room and people gravitate to them with love, black white, Hispanic,
- 22:49Speaker 1: It doesn't matter.
- 22:51Speaker 2: He will stop. He will stop.
- 22:54Speaker 1: It has nothing to do with security and it's a
- 22:57Speaker 1: different type of way people come up to him. Because
- 22:59Speaker 1: I've seen people come up to people. You gotta have security, okay,
- 23:02Speaker 1: because they just come at you a different way. But
- 23:05Speaker 1: people come up to Magic Johnson with a sense of
- 23:08Speaker 1: reverence like thank you, thank It's almost like a minister,
- 23:11Speaker 1: thank you, thank you, appreciate you, bless you, bless you.
- 23:14Speaker 2: Brother. Keep winning, keep doing this.
- 23:16Speaker 1: And that's the type of thing that you're referencing these individuals,
- 23:19Speaker 1: especially Magic Johnson. This guy can do a masterclass man
- 23:23Speaker 1: and just being humble but successful, being able to understand
- 23:28Speaker 1: the value of relationship partnership. This is Magic Johnson. And
- 23:31Speaker 1: I'm just gonna tell you this, Ken, I know we're
- 23:33Speaker 1: about to run out of time here, but you know this,
- 23:36Speaker 1: we gotta come back in a couple of more weeks, man,
- 23:38Speaker 1: because we gotta do the energy conversation that we need
- 23:42Speaker 1: to let everybody know that you're involved in and we
- 23:45Speaker 1: gotta let everybody know about personal injury and litigation. I
- 23:49Speaker 1: gotta get your schedule cleared, man, because you came on
- 23:51Speaker 1: this interview a little bit late and I need every
- 23:53Speaker 1: minute with you.
- 23:54Speaker 2: Ken. Man.
- 23:56Speaker 3: I'm ready for it, man, and we can talk all
- 23:58Speaker 3: day about Magic, but I will give Yeah, I don't
- 24:00Speaker 3: know if I have a few seconds, but I did.
- 24:02Speaker 3: This is one secret about Magic jumps. Yes, sir, this
- 24:06Speaker 3: is an exclusive on him. He has a photographic memory.
- 24:11Speaker 3: I believe that is one of his secrets.
- 24:13Speaker 2: Yes, I believe that.
- 24:14Speaker 3: Magic can remember something from ten years ago and give
- 24:18Speaker 3: you details on it.
- 24:19Speaker 1: I believe that. And like I tell I've seen him
- 24:23Speaker 1: in action too many times. And that's the blessing. And
- 24:25Speaker 1: I always tell this thing to everybody about Magic. John's
- 24:28Speaker 1: Magic Johnson. If he did not drive little basketball, know
- 24:31Speaker 1: this about him. He was going to be an entrepreneur.
- 24:34Speaker 1: If he did not drivele little basketball. His goal was
- 24:37Speaker 1: not to be a Hall of Fame basketball player. God
- 24:39Speaker 1: just gave him that talent. His goal was to be
- 24:41Speaker 1: a business man. His goal was because that's the infrastructure
- 24:45Speaker 1: that was built by his parents. Was that started there
- 24:48Speaker 1: in that home and so these are the great things
- 24:50Speaker 1: about it.
- 24:51Speaker 2: But I want to just tell.
- 24:52Speaker 1: You, Attorney Ken Harris, thank you for coming on Money
- 24:55Speaker 1: Making Conversations, masteric class.
- 24:56Speaker 2: But I'm about to.
- 24:57Speaker 1: Get with mcgirl and get you back on the show
- 25:00Speaker 1: asap because your story and if you have time, I
- 25:03Speaker 1: want you on my show every quarter because you know,
- 25:05Speaker 1: these big shows have these these these relationship especially with
- 25:08Speaker 1: high profile attorneys that can just drop in and just
- 25:11Speaker 1: talk about politics, talk about the community.
- 25:14Speaker 2: That's you. Can you be that person from my show?
- 25:17Speaker 3: Of course you do anything for you you know that.
- 25:20Speaker 1: Thank you, brother, We're gonna talk soon. This is doctor
- 25:22Speaker 1: this is Attorney Ken Harris and his book Dark Trays
- 25:27Speaker 1: What If the South were that wonder Civil Wars? Check
- 25:29Speaker 1: it out, pick it up, and again, thank you Ken
- 25:32Speaker 1: for coming on my show, Money Making Conversation Mastic Class.
- 25:35Speaker 3: Well appreciate it.
- 25:37Speaker 1: We talked soon again. As we always say, as we
- 25:40Speaker 1: close out this show, remember this show has been another
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