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Jack Smith’s Surveillance Dragnet Demanded Trump Media’s Metadata · The Ben Ferguson Podcast

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  Speaker 1: James Comey, John Bolton were all recently indicted. There's a
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  Speaker 1: pattern to these names.
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  Speaker 4: If you're listening to the forty seven Morning Update with
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  Speaker 4: Ben ferguson.
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  Speaker 5: Good Monday morning, So nice to have you with us
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  Speaker 5: on the forty seven Morning Update, We've got one big
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  Speaker 5: story for you. Devin Nunyez is now well. He's telling
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  Speaker 5: it like it is, saying that Jack Smith sought Donald
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  Speaker 5: Trump media bank records. Why were they spying on Trump's
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  Speaker 5: bank records. We'll have that story for you in just
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  Speaker 5: a moment.
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  Speaker 5: seven Morning update and it starts right now.
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  Speaker 4: Story number one.
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  Speaker 5: Devin Nunyez is now exposing Jack Smith and telling us
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  Speaker 5: that they sought Trump Media bank records. Is what we're
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  Speaker 5: being told Donald Trump saying these thugs should be investigated.
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  Speaker 5: Trump Media and Technology Group Corporation TMTG CEO and former
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  Speaker 5: Congressman Devin Nunyez on Thursday accused former Special counsel Jack
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  Speaker 5: Smith of wielding a shockingly broad, secret subpoena for the
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  Speaker 5: banking records of the Trump Media Empire, despite the company
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  Speaker 5: not even existing at the time of his underlying investigation.
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  Speaker 5: TMTG was among the more than four hundred Trump linked
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  Speaker 5: individuals and organizations that we're spied on as part of
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  Speaker 5: Special Counsel Jack Smith's investigation of President Donald Trump. Specifically,
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  Speaker 5: the Smith team issued as shockingly broad and secret subpoena
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  Speaker 5: for our banking records Noonez says in a statement on
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  Speaker 5: True Social saying, quote, this is a stunning abuse of
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  Speaker 5: power against a private business and are hundreds of thousands
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  Speaker 5: of retail investors, especially since Trump Media did not even
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  Speaker 5: exist at the time of the events that Jack Smith
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  Speaker 5: was supposedly investigating. Nou Neez called for answers from both
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  Speaker 5: the Securities and Exchange Commission, the SEC and JP Morgan
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  Speaker 5: Chase on whether they were aware of the subpoena and
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  Speaker 5: whether bank records were actually leaked. According to the subpoena
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  Speaker 5: issued to JP Morgan Chase, images of which noonez shared
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  Speaker 5: on social media platform, the demand covers any and all
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  Speaker 5: records in your possession, custody or control for all accounts
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  Speaker 5: and or trust accounts in the name of bearing the signature,
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  Speaker 5: authority of, or with the ability to be accessed by
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  Speaker 5: the named parties below listing TMTG among the named entities.
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  Speaker 5: The subpoena spans the time period from September one, twenty
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  Speaker 5: twenty to October thirty first of twenty twenty one, and
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  Speaker 5: requests an extensive array of records, including checking and saving
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  Speaker 5: account statements, opening documents, wire transfers, ACCH payments, credit and
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  Speaker 5: debit memos, loan and mortgage payments, safe deposit box records,
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  Speaker 5: debit card transaction histories, IP addresses, cookie data, and other
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  Speaker 5: account inquiry metadata. In other words, a full blown phishing
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  Speaker 5: expedition I the DOJ and the FBI. Meanwhile, Smith's investigation
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  Speaker 5: initiated by the Attorney General Meyrick Garland in November of
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  Speaker 5: twenty twenty two, has drawn intense scrutiny. The probe encompasses
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  Speaker 5: Trump's handling of classified documents, efforts they lied about to
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  Speaker 5: overturn the twenty twenty election, and allege obstruction of justice
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  Speaker 5: and other matters. In recent weeks, the Senate Judiciary Committee
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  Speaker 5: leaked documents showing Smith's team issued one hundred and ninety
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  Speaker 5: seven subpoenas covering at least four hundred and thirty individuals
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  Speaker 5: and entities. It's part of an investigation dubbed Arctic Frost GOP.
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  Speaker 5: Lawmakers have accused Smith of improperly targeting members of Congress
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  Speaker 5: and others, and Smith's council nonetheless defended the approach as
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  Speaker 5: quote entirely proper and lawful. We'll see where this goes,
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  Speaker 5: but there's a very good chance this is the tip
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  Speaker 5: of the Arctic frost Iceberg greta ancestorn on Newsmas Jim
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  Speaker 5: Jordan on to talk about this, and she started with
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  Speaker 5: Donald Trump's true social post about what we're now learning.
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  Speaker 5: I want you to listen closely to this conversation.
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  Speaker 2: These thugs should all be investigated and put in prison.
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  Speaker 2: A disgrace to humanity. Deranged Jack Smith is a criminal
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  Speaker 2: end quote shairing of the House Judiciary Committee. They released
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  Speaker 2: those fileshile Carsman Jim Jordan joins me, good evenings, sir,
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  Speaker 2: and do have all the FBI files on this?
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  Speaker 3: Well, we hope, But we're going to continue to work
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  Speaker 3: with Director Patel and get every piece of information we can.
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  Speaker 3: God blessed Cash and of course Pam Bondi, because they've
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  Speaker 3: been night and day. Difference between them and what we
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  Speaker 3: have with Merrick Garland and Christopher Ray. I think the
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  Speaker 3: big takeaway here is how much broader and more expansive
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  Speaker 3: this was.
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  Speaker 1: It wasn't just that they took the.
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  Speaker 3: Phone of a sitting member of Congress when they took
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  Speaker 3: Scott Perry's phone. It wasn't just that they spied on
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  Speaker 3: eight United States senators. Now we learn it's over one
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  Speaker 3: hundred and fifty individuals. Keep people in the Trump administration,
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  Speaker 3: keep people that they went after, getting communications, phone records,
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  Speaker 3: bank records, all kinds of things they were going after.
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  Speaker 3: This is how expansive Artie Frost started out, and how
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  Speaker 3: it even expanded even more when Jack Smith was named
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  Speaker 3: special counsel, and when he took over the investigation, and
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  Speaker 3: finally I would say this, Greta, this is why we
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  Speaker 3: want to talk to Jack Smith. Why we've asked him
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  Speaker 3: to come in for a deposition as soon as possible.
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  Speaker 3: We got to ask him questions because we've already deposed
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  Speaker 3: two of his deputies, and they took the fifth seventy
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  Speaker 3: one and seventy three times mister Bratt and mister Wyndham
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  Speaker 3: exercised their fift Amendment liberties. Wouldn't answer questions like was
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  Speaker 3: this all political? Were you going after this to undermine
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  Speaker 3: and hurt President Trump in a political way? How about
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  Speaker 3: any other people you surveilled or spied on that in
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  Speaker 3: addition to the eight United States Senators.
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  Speaker 1: Both of those questions they wouldn't answer.
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  Speaker 3: So we want to talk to Jack Smith, the guy
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  Speaker 3: who ran the investigation, find out what kind of answers
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  Speaker 3: he'll give us.
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  Speaker 2: They went after all these records of these people. Did
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  Speaker 2: they have a warrant? Did they get one from the
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  Speaker 2: grand jury or assigned warrant from a judge? Do they
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  Speaker 2: have a warrant? Or were they just being cowboys and
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  Speaker 2: going through these people these records of these.
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  Speaker 3: The targets again, questions will ask. I think they did
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  Speaker 3: have a warrant. I think they they moved that way.
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  Speaker 3: But we want to we want to figure all this out.
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  Speaker 3: We knew that Jack Smith had, you know, put the
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  Speaker 3: gagolder in President Trump.
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  Speaker 1: We knew he had raided Mara Lago.
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  Speaker 3: We knew that one of one of Jack Smith's deputies
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  Speaker 3: confronted a lawyer for one of the defendants and it
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  Speaker 3: looked like he offered him. He was kind of almost
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  Speaker 3: a bribe situation. He said, we thought you were interested
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  Speaker 3: in this judge position. We didn't know you were a
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  Speaker 3: Trump guy, you know, kind of hint hint, wink wink.
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  Speaker 3: When when they talked to Stanley Woodward.
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  Speaker 2: Uh.
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  Speaker 3: So there's all this that went on, but the big
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  Speaker 3: takeaways for me are eight United States senators, a city
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  Speaker 3: member of Congress they took the phone up, and two
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  Speaker 3: of his deputies who we've already deposed, who wouldn't answer
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  Speaker 3: our questions. So, uh, that's why we want to talk
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  Speaker 3: to Jack Smith again.
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  Speaker 2: You choice is when you look at the breadth of
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  Speaker 2: investigation like this with you know, over one hundred and
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  Speaker 2: fifty eight and if you go to the lower number
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  Speaker 2: that you just you just listed is that they didn't
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  Speaker 2: indict or charge any of these people. So you get
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  Speaker 2: sort of the idea that they were just looking for
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  Speaker 2: every thing every place you know that you know, you
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  Speaker 2: know what could possibly be a legitimate reason if they
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  Speaker 2: didn't if they didn't strike gold on anybody.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think you're I think you're right they were.
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  Speaker 3: I think this was political. I think this was the
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  Speaker 3: left saying we're going to go after these people. We're
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  Speaker 3: going to use this whole alternative elector h reason as
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  Speaker 3: as the basis for why we're doing this investigation. We
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  Speaker 3: saw the one email, but between it looked like between
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  Speaker 3: an agent and a and a source talking about former
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  Speaker 3: cheapest staff Mark Meadows was involved in some kind of
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  Speaker 3: treasonous activity, which was just ridiculous.
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  Speaker 1: So this was the mindset.
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  Speaker 3: I think it also gets to that who are these
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  Speaker 3: folks in the FBI who were putting these emails together
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  Speaker 3: saying that there's there's there's reason to believe that the
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  Speaker 3: cheapest staff to the President of the United States was
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  Speaker 3: engaged in treason's behavior.
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  Speaker 1: That's just ridiculous, But that reason, and it makes no sense.
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  Speaker 1: I hate that when they use reason to believe.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, the documents that you believe have a lot of
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  Speaker 2: black spots on them, a lot of redactions. Is that
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  Speaker 2: something you did or the FBI did? And the reason
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  Speaker 2: that matters is because you really can't read those documents unless,
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  Speaker 2: I mean, you know, for full transparency. Why is everything
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  Speaker 2: being kept a secret? Basically there's no I mean, if
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  Speaker 2: we want to uncover what happened you or to give it,
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  Speaker 2: you know, put to find out if anything dirty was done.
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  Speaker 2: We really need this.
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  Speaker 1: We need to be able to read everything, and nobody.
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  Speaker 2: Should be running for cover with doing redactions.
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  Speaker 3: We didn't put the redactions on. That's how they came
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  Speaker 3: from the Justice Department. You're right, we need to have
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  Speaker 3: we need to be able to read it all in
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  Speaker 3: full context. But I would go a step further and
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  Speaker 3: say the name's under there, I actually want to ask
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  Speaker 3: them questions. I want to find out, like, who's this
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  Speaker 3: source giving this?
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  Speaker 1: Look?
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  Speaker 3: To me when I read it, it looks like under the
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  Speaker 3: actually to be the source, and then the agent who's
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  Speaker 3: getting the information.
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  Speaker 1: I want to know who that source is.
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  Speaker 3: I want to know who that agent is saying these
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  Speaker 3: ridiculous things that get put in an email and sent
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  Speaker 3: to someone else as part of this investigation. So I
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  Speaker 3: think it's even more than that, not just who those
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  Speaker 3: what those names are. I want to talk to those people.
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  Speaker 3: I want to ask them questions. So that's that's where
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  Speaker 3: I think we try to go next.
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  Speaker 1: Well, that's the starter, the.
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  Speaker 2: Starters to find out who they are? Were the redactions
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  Speaker 2: done during the Trump administration or during the Brenda Biden
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  Speaker 2: administration or the Trump administration?
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  Speaker 1: And who?
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  Speaker 2: I mean, who is it? Some someone up in some
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  Speaker 2: room with a big black marker someplace? I mean, who's
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  Speaker 2: doing these things?
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  Speaker 1: Well?
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  Speaker 3: I think it's just I think got standard practice at
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  Speaker 3: the Justice which is which is not good.
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  Speaker 1: And I don't know which one. I don't know which
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  Speaker 1: FBI did it.
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  Speaker 3: My my gut tells me it was probably That's how
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  Speaker 3: the documents were in the ray FBI that Director Patel
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  Speaker 3: has gotten his hands on now and giving to us.
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  Speaker 3: But I don't know that, but that'd be my guest.
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  Speaker 3: But my understanding is that's just standard names, phone numbers
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  Speaker 3: of agents, phone numbers and sources names and sort of.
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  Speaker 3: That's just standard how they do it. But we want
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  Speaker 3: to know now because we saw how broad and how expansive.
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  Speaker 3: This is we want to know who those people are
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  Speaker 3: so we can ask them questions.
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  Speaker 2: Well, if you're then involved in an investigation, especially a
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  Speaker 2: government person, you don't have your name not blackened out
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  Speaker 2: so that we can see who it is. We can
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  Speaker 2: see who's doing what. I get it if it's a
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  Speaker 2: confidential source that's going to get shot on the street
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  Speaker 2: or something, if we reveal it. But the fact that
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  Speaker 2: some way and I'm told, I've always told that's the
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  Speaker 2: way it's done, well, that's never satisfied me because that
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  Speaker 2: usually means it's sort of like, well things are classified
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  Speaker 2: in this town because that's the way it's done. But
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  Speaker 2: that's where the lack of transparency, you know, and we
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  Speaker 2: can get to that. We could get to the end
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  Speaker 2: of this very quickly if we could read everything and
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  Speaker 2: see it, and even if they turned it over to
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  Speaker 2: you unredacted, it would be good. I mean, I realized,
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  Speaker 2: maybe it won't turn it into the public. But you know,
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  Speaker 2: I don't know how you do an investigation when you
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  Speaker 2: can't get all the material.
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  Speaker 3: Well, we're working on find out what the name is
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  Speaker 3: underneath those those those those black lines.
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  Speaker 1: We want to know who the name is or what
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  Speaker 1: the name is.
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  Speaker 3: We want to know who that individual is, so again
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  Speaker 3: we can we can ask them questions like where did
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  Speaker 3: the I think, particularly that the email I keep citing,
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  Speaker 3: I won't know who that source is because I think
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  Speaker 3: it's the source that they were using. Who was the
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  Speaker 3: person alleging that the former chiefest staff was engaged. That's
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  Speaker 3: just just the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard.
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  Speaker 2: Well do you know what though, But it's a little
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  Speaker 2: bit like when they were using that guy Steel as
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  Speaker 2: a source they kept using it wouldn't tell but if
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  Speaker 2: anyone had pulled, if anyone had investigated Steel, you wouldn't
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  Speaker 2: have used him as a source, you know. But if
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  Speaker 2: you just say the person's a source and black it out,
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  Speaker 2: there's no way to challenge whether it's someone who has
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  Speaker 2: good information or it's someone's got an ax to grind
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  Speaker 2: or whatever. You know.
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  Speaker 3: That's that's not to and not to mention the sub
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  Speaker 3: sources that Steele was using, who would just further complicates
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  Speaker 3: it means there's more lies than that ridiculous dossier that
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  Speaker 3: they relied on to get warrants to go spawn a
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  Speaker 3: presidential campaign.
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  Speaker 1: No great point, and it's again this all now has come.
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  Speaker 3: All getting exposed goes clear back to twenty sixteen when
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  Speaker 3: they spider it. That's when it all started, and we're
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  Speaker 3: starting to unravel it all. So that and the reason
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  Speaker 3: we want to unravel it all and hold people accountable
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  Speaker 3: is so that it doesn't happen again.
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  Speaker 2: Well, if I were if I were a government employer
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  Speaker 2: or anybody, and I found out that they were doing
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  Speaker 2: that to me without a warrant from a judge or
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  Speaker 2: from a grand jury, I would sue from a constitution
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  Speaker 2: of rights being violated because I tell you one thing.
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  Speaker 1: You get.
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  Speaker 2: First of all, you get a big chunk of change
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  Speaker 2: out of the government. Secondly, you get a lot of discovery,
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  Speaker 2: you get a lot of information, you know, and we'd
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  Speaker 2: find out what the government is doing and not doing.
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  Speaker 2: Chairman Jim Jordan, thanks sir.
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  Speaker 5: You listen to Jim Jordan there and you hear what
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  Speaker 5: he had to say. It is truly incredible they were
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  Speaker 5: able to do this and abuse the power of the government.
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  Speaker 5: The good news is Donald Trump is making it very
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  Speaker 5: clear there's going to be accountability for people that abuse
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  Speaker 5: their power in the last administration or any administration. If
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  Speaker 5: there's evidence of major wrong doe It.
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