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Pam Bondi as AG, plus Biden Burning the House Down on the Way Out-Opening the Border & Trying to Start WW3 · The Ben Ferguson Podcast

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Speaker 1: Welcome. It's Verdict with Center Ted Cruz.
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Speaker 2: and watch them, so make sure you do that. This
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Speaker 2: was a very big week Center because the President name
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Speaker 2: Pam Bondy as her as his AG pick, and that
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Speaker 2: was something that a lot of people received with a
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Speaker 2: lot of excitement.
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Speaker 3: Well, that's right, it's big news. Pam Bondi is going
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Speaker 3: to make a very strong AG I know, Pam. Well,
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Speaker 3: we're going to talk about her. We're going to talk
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Speaker 3: about that nomination, what it means, what it means for
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Speaker 3: the Department of Justice, what it means for the country,
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Speaker 3: what to expect in the Senate, what's going to happen next.
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Speaker 3: We're also going to talk about what Joe Biden is
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Speaker 3: doing on the way out of the White House, and
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Speaker 3: spoiler alert, it ain't pretty. Joe Biden is in the
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Speaker 3: process of opening up the borders, trying to accelerate the invasion,
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Speaker 3: trying to make Donald Trump in the new administration lives
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Speaker 3: and jobs more difficult. He's not just doing it at
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Speaker 3: home with opening up the borders, but he's also doing
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Speaker 3: it abroad. He's doing, I think, everything he can to
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Speaker 3: accelerate and to make worse the war in Ukraine. That
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Speaker 3: is dangerous World War III. It seems like he's rolling
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Speaker 3: the dice and hoping whoever comes in next has to
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Speaker 1: It's official.
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Speaker 2: Pam Bondi has been selected by Donald Trump to be
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Speaker 2: the AG. I've got to know her a little bit
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Speaker 2: through doing different things on TV. You know her pretty
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Speaker 2: well from different campaign things, et cetera. Are you excited
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Speaker 2: about this pick, because it seems to be that most
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Speaker 2: are very excited about how qualified she is. Her resume
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Speaker 2: matters in this one a lot more than the last pick,
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Speaker 2: and people say she knows how to do this job.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a great choice. It is an excellent choice.
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Speaker 3: You know, it's interesting. We did Friday's pod. You and
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Speaker 3: I recorded it Thursday afternoon, right before I got on
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Speaker 3: the plane and flew back from DC to Texas. And
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Speaker 3: Thursday afternoon, the news had just broken that Matt Gates
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Speaker 3: was pulling out. So we did the whole podcast on
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Speaker 3: that news that had just broken. I'd come from the
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Speaker 3: lunch with the other Senate Republicans where everyone was still
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Speaker 3: a little shocked at the speed with which Gates pulled
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Speaker 3: out of the contention, and at the time we didn't
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Speaker 3: know who the nominee was. So Friday's pod we were
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Speaker 3: speculating different folks. What is interesting is how quickly Trump acted.
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Speaker 3: Trump acted within hours, and by Thursday night we knew
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Speaker 3: the nominee Pambondy, and that nominee is now going full
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Speaker 3: speed ahead. I'm going to say it is a very
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Speaker 3: very strong choice.
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Speaker 2: Let's talk about her resume so people understand, because if
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Speaker 2: you're outside of Florida, you may not know just how
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Speaker 2: qualified she is what she has done.
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Speaker 4: Yeah.
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Speaker 5: So Pam's background. She's from Tampa.
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Speaker 3: Originally, she got an undergraduate degree from University of Florida
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Speaker 3: degree in criminal justice. She then got her law degree
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Speaker 3: from Stetson Law School and she was admitted of the
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Speaker 3: Florida Bar in nineteen ninety one and she spent eighteen
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Speaker 3: years as a prosecutor in the Hillsboro County State Attorney's Office,
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Speaker 3: trying cases including domestic violence, including murder. She was a
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Speaker 3: line prosecutor trying cases. She then became Attorney General of
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Speaker 3: Florida in twenty ten.
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Speaker 1: She made history.
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Speaker 3: She was the first female attorney general in the state
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Speaker 3: of Florida, and she focused on number one, challenging Obamacare.
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Speaker 3: She focused on taking on human trafficking and she also
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Speaker 3: focused on shutting down pill mills and fighting the state's
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Speaker 3: opioid crisis, and she held that post for eight years
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Speaker 3: until twenty nineteen. She is right now the chair of
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Speaker 3: the Center of Litigation and also co chair of the
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Speaker 3: Center for Law and Justice at the America First Policy Institute.
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Speaker 3: And she was very notably part of his defense team.
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Speaker 3: Trump's defense team in the first impeachment trial. So when
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Speaker 3: Verdict started, when this podcast began, the very first Verdict
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Speaker 3: podcast was the first night of the first Trump impeachment trial,
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Speaker 3: and I came from the Senate Flora where we spent
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Speaker 3: the entire day there, came to the studio and recorded
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Speaker 3: Verdict the very initial episode. And actually Verdict at the
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Speaker 3: time went from non existent. We started with zero listeners,
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Speaker 3: zero viewers. It went from non existent to its skyrocketed
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Speaker 3: up the charts and became the number one rank podcast
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Speaker 3: in the world, beating Joe Rogan, beating the New York Times,
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Speaker 3: beating everybody. Pam at the time was someone I worked
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Speaker 3: with closely during that impeachment trial, and she is a serious,
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Speaker 3: capable trial lawyer. And I got to tell you, look,
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Speaker 3: Attorney General is a job that requires competence. It requires
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Speaker 3: knowledge of the law. It requires good judgment, and it
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Speaker 3: requires backbone, and I think Pam's got all three. And
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Speaker 3: it is a job where competence really matters. Listen that
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Speaker 3: this administration is going to face all sorts of legal challenges.
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Speaker 3: It's going to face blue states and blue attorneys general
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Speaker 3: filing lawsuits day after day after day. It is going
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Speaker 3: to face every step President Trump takes, he's gonna face
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Speaker 3: law fair on the other side. And one of the
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Speaker 3: most important responsibilities for an Attorney general is to give good,
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Speaker 3: sound legal advice about how to navigate those land mines,
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Speaker 3: how to implement the Trump policy in a way that
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Speaker 3: survives and is durable legally.
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Speaker 5: And I got to say, I think I think Pam
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Speaker 5: will do an excellent job.
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Speaker 2: You talk about the role as the AG, and there's
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Speaker 2: so many different things you're involved in. It's a lot
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Speaker 2: of it is managing and making sure that people are
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Speaker 2: doing their jobs well and find the right people. There's
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Speaker 2: also the deep stated aspect of this that people are saying, hey,
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Speaker 2: we want to get the bad actors out. She is
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Speaker 2: actually defended Donald Trump against those activists and the deep
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Speaker 2: state that we're coming after him. How important is her
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Speaker 2: just seeing that and defending him and knowing what they
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Speaker 2: were doing to him and to others around him, whether
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Speaker 2: it be Flynn, the list goes on and on. That
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Speaker 2: will help her do better, be better at this job
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Speaker 2: than maybe anyone else.
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Speaker 3: Look, she's strong and she's loyal to the president, but
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Speaker 3: she also cares about the rule of law, and you
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Speaker 3: need to have both to do this job effectively. This
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Speaker 3: may be the single hardest job in the incoming Trump administration.
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Speaker 3: And look, I want to give you an example. Take
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Speaker 3: a look at Pam and.
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Speaker 5: Who she is.
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Speaker 6: These criminals made one very big mistake. They wound up
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Speaker 6: in Polk County. And I'll tell you it's bad enough
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Speaker 6: in one thing to profit from poisoning others, but it's
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Speaker 6: another when you bring drugs from Mexico into our country California, Texas, Georgia,
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Speaker 6: and end up in our state and do it with impunity.
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Speaker 6: Because when you're in this country illegally and you're doing
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Speaker 6: things illegally, I want to tell you, and you wind
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Speaker 6: up in Polk County, Grady Judd is gonna find you,
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Speaker 6: the DEA is gonna help them, and my statewide prosecutors
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Speaker 6: are gonna lie you up for as long as we can.
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Speaker 7: And we're gonna enjoy it.
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Speaker 6: And each of these defendants are looking at fifteen thirty
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Speaker 6: years in Florida State prison for conspiracy to traffic drugs.
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Speaker 2: I mean, she's not messing around, and I love the
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Speaker 2: sheriff there by the way. We're going to enjoy it.
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Speaker 2: But I mean, this is I think her life work.
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Speaker 2: She's saying, let's go. You want to go to war,
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Speaker 2: We're gonna go war against the bad guys. We're gonna
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Speaker 2: protect Americans. We're gonna go after the cartels, we're gonna
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Speaker 2: go after the drugs. We're gonna go after the people
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Speaker 2: that are doing this across our borders. And she mentioned
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Speaker 2: all those states, including Texas. That's why I'm excited about her.
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Speaker 3: Well, and for those of you all listening to this
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Speaker 3: on audio, what we just played as a video of
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Speaker 3: a press conference of her bringing a prosecution against drug traffickers,
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Speaker 3: against criminals, and as you noted, the sheriff behind her
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Speaker 3: quick quickly chimes in, and we're going to enjoy it.
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Speaker 3: I mean, this is we need an attorney general who
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Speaker 3: is tough, who is focused on securing the border, is
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Speaker 3: focused on stopping human traffickers, is focused on stopping drug traffickers.
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Speaker 3: I think Pam's going to do an excellent job of that.
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Speaker 3: And by the way, if you don't trust me on it,
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Speaker 3: let me give you someone else. If you don't want
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Speaker 3: to take my word for it, take Al Sharpton's word
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Speaker 3: for it. Give a listen to Al Sharpton on MSNBC.
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Speaker 8: Absolutely, I think it was the wise thing for the
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Speaker 8: Trump people and for President and LEC Trump to withdraw
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Speaker 8: him now because a long term spectacle of days and
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Speaker 8: weeks or would only damage them even more. Take your
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Speaker 8: losses shot. Let him walk away because he was never
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Speaker 8: qualified and he could not give any reasonable argument as
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Speaker 8: to why he'd be attorney general. I talked to people
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Speaker 8: that I know in Florida last night that on the
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Speaker 8: civil rights side, we have a chapter in NAWSH Action
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Speaker 8: Network there. Bondy is certainly on the right. But she
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Speaker 8: is one who's qualified to become Attorney general in terms
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Speaker 8: of she's handled cases, she's managed officers, and yes, we
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Speaker 8: can raise questions about which he did with Trump University,
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Speaker 8: but there's no glaring things in terms of her values
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Speaker 8: and models. You're talking about gates with underage sex. You're
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Speaker 8: talking about Ronnie of that has been documented that was
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Speaker 8: center around, and to put him in charge of the
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Speaker 8: Justice Department made a mockery of the system. So I
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Speaker 8: think it was better for Trump, not that I'm a
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Speaker 8: Trump person at all, but it was better for him
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Speaker 8: and certainly better for the American public to get Gates
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Speaker 8: off the seat.
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Speaker 2: I mean, he's saying like, I don't know how you're
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Speaker 2: going to attack her, and that's on MSNBC. I think
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Speaker 2: she's qualified, she knows how to do the job. She's
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Speaker 2: been elected by the people of a big state, not once,
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Speaker 2: but twice. And basically, if Al Sharpton, that's like a
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Speaker 2: glowing reviewers if you're a Republican.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, look, that's basically Sharpton going, oh crap, yeah, like
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Speaker 3: this is a good choice. And I'm Al Sharpton and
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Speaker 3: I really hate that this is a good choice. That's
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Speaker 3: an awfully good recommendation. Here's another one. Take a listen.
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Speaker 9: Action I got from inside the Justice Department last night
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Speaker 9: was this is Matt Gates with a better legal resume.
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Speaker 9: But the legal resume is significant, Willie and guys, because
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Speaker 9: Pam Bondi was a career prosecutor down there in Hillsborough
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Speaker 9: County for many, many years before she was elected Florida's
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Speaker 9: first female Attorney general. So she's prosecuted major cases, murders, death,
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Speaker 9: penalty cases. She understands how that works. Matt Gates had
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Speaker 9: never really been much of a lawyer before he was
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Speaker 9: elected to the Florida legislature, so that's a big difference.
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Speaker 9: And you know she at the same time, though, she
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Speaker 9: is you know, an extreme maga activist and has tainted
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Speaker 9: her legal career with very strong stands in favor of
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Speaker 9: some questionable things. There was a famous incident back in
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Speaker 9: around ten years ago when if you remember, Trump University,
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Speaker 9: that for profit university that Donald Trump ran, was getting
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Speaker 9: a lot of consumer complaints about being a scam, and
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Speaker 9: her office was asked to join a multi state lawsuit
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Speaker 9: and Donald Trump's foundation contributed twenty five thousand dollars to
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Speaker 9: her campaign and she opted not to join that lawsuit
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Speaker 9: in his foundation was later fined for making a legal contribution.
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Speaker 9: So look, she served her tenured eight years as Florida
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Speaker 9: Attorney General. She later went on to be one of
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Speaker 9: Donald Trump's impeachment defense lawyers in the Ukraine impeachment in
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Speaker 9: twenty twenty made a speech on the House floor during
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Speaker 9: the trial arguing that there was a Biden corruption scandal
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Speaker 9: in Ukraine and that that's why that phone call was okay.
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Speaker 9: And she's also raised questions about fraud in the twenty
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Speaker 9: twenty election, which people think were baseless. So it's a
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Speaker 9: bit of a mixed bag. But people are breathing a
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Speaker 9: little bit of a sigh of relief of the Justice
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Speaker 9: Department that at least she's a real lawyer, and that
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Speaker 9: her deputy, Todd Blanche, donald Trump's defense attorney, does have
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Speaker 9: a lot of experience in the Justice Department and is
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Speaker 9: also well regarded over there. Net people are thinking this
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Speaker 9: is a much better situation than Matt Gates. But she
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Speaker 9: is certainly a Donald Trump loyalist who has also raised
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Speaker 9: questions about weaponization at the Justice Department and may really
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Speaker 9: cause some trouble over there from the perspective of some
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Speaker 9: of the career folks.
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Speaker 2: If you want to know what a weak argument looks
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Speaker 2: like from MSNBC, like, well, there's something maybe ten years ago.
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Speaker 2: And by the way, if you actually heard her explanation
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Speaker 2: on the Trump University thing, she said, we looked at
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Speaker 2: the number of people that could have been effected in
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Speaker 2: the state, and we decided it wasn't worth any of
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Speaker 2: our time to even look at this for X, Y
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Speaker 2: and Z purposes. And there was a bunch of liberals
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Speaker 2: that went after him, but they went back over a
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Speaker 2: decade to find something pretty darn obscure and they're like, well,
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Speaker 2: her biggest liability is she's friends with Donald Trump.
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Speaker 1: Well it's the Trump administration. Get used to it.
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Speaker 3: Well, And once again, that's an MSNBC legal analyst who
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Speaker 3: is laying that out, who says she's a serious lawyer,
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Speaker 3: career prosecutor, real lawyer, knows how to lead teams, no
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Speaker 3: hes how to run organizations, knows how to bring a case.
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Speaker 3: That's their attempt to attack her. And their attack is, well,
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Speaker 3: you know she she's a Trump loyalist.
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Speaker 2: Well knows is gonna get the job.
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Speaker 5: You know.
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Speaker 3: Funny thing. I mean, Eric Holder was the runner up.
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Speaker 3: And you know, I'm sure Trump was thinking about, give
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Speaker 3: me a radical leftist who wants to destroy my administration.
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Speaker 3: And as much as MSNBC would love that, that was
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Speaker 3: not going to happen. Listen, where is this going to
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Speaker 3: go now? Pambondi's going to be confirmed?
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Speaker 1: You have no doubt about that.
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Speaker 3: I think she'll be confirmed easily, barring some dramatically unexpected step,
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Speaker 3: which I don't expect. Yeah, you know, she will be confirmed.
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Speaker 3: I think she will have a straightforward hearing in the
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Speaker 3: Judiciary Committee. The Democrats will take some shots at her,
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Speaker 3: but you just saw from MSNBC they don't have much.
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Speaker 2: I'd start with just quoting Al Sharpton. I'm glad we're
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Speaker 2: here today. Al Sharpton said this about you.
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Speaker 3: All right, that's not bad. I mean you can still
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Speaker 3: that Sharpton. You know, I'm going to have my questioning.
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Speaker 3: I've never quoted Al Sharp.
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Speaker 1: Do you get to check two boxes? That day? The
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Speaker 3: Is going to be confirmed. It is going to be straightforward.
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Speaker 3: And I got to say this is not our rundown
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Speaker 5: Well, it's late November.
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Speaker 10: Now.
19:00
Speaker 3: Let me point out a couple of things. Number One,
19:03
Speaker 3: have you seen Joe Biden in weeks? No, I guess
19:05
Speaker 3: he's still on vacation. Look, Kamala Harris is in Hawaii.
19:10
Speaker 3: Joe Biden, I don't know where the hell he is.
19:12
Speaker 3: I'm not sure if we actually have a president of
19:14
Speaker 3: the United States right now. They're certainly not allowing him
19:18
Speaker 3: to go outside or to appear on camera. And even so,
19:23
Speaker 3: even though we have an A Wall president and an
19:25
Speaker 3: A Wall Vice president, I think it is absolutely clear
19:28
Speaker 3: that both Biden and Harris want Trump to fail. They
19:33
Speaker 3: want the problems in this country to get worse, and
19:36
Speaker 3: they want to make sure that Donald Trump inherits the
19:40
Speaker 3: worst stinking pile of crap possible. So you look at
19:46
Speaker 3: challenges at home and abroad. At home, the greatest domestic
19:50
Speaker 3: challenge we have is the open borders that Joe Biden
19:52
Speaker 3: Kamala Harris put in place. Abroad, the greatest challenge we
19:55
Speaker 3: have are the wars that are unfolding because of Joe
19:58
Speaker 3: Biden and Kamala Harris's weakness, domestically.
20:02
Speaker 5: What are they doing?
20:02
Speaker 3: Well, apparently neither Biden nor Harris learned a damn thing
20:05
Speaker 3: from the election. They didn't hear from the voters that
20:08
Speaker 3: they don't want an open border, they don't want this invasion.
20:11
Speaker 3: So instead they're doubling down and they're trying to make
20:14
Speaker 3: it harder for Trump to come in with the new administration,
20:19
Speaker 3: secure the border and remove dangerous criminal illegal aliens. Take
20:23
Speaker 3: a listen to this reporting on Fox about what specifically
20:27
Speaker 3: the Biden administration is doing, Sandra.
20:29
Speaker 7: The Biden administration is quietly loosening immigration policies before Trump
20:34
Speaker 7: takes offense. This according to The New York Post. It
20:37
Speaker 7: reports the administration is testing a new app that will
20:41
Speaker 7: allow illegal migrants to bypass in person check ins at
20:46
Speaker 7: their local ice office.
20:48
Speaker 1: Jeff Paul is Live with More.
20:50
Speaker 7: It sounds like they're just giving Donald Trump one more
20:53
Speaker 7: thing to undo.
20:55
Speaker 10: Well, Jaw, we do know the Biden administration has been
20:58
Speaker 10: testing this new immigration and cut Them's app, and the
21:01
Speaker 10: idea is to streamline the check in process for migrants,
21:04
Speaker 10: allow them to use their phones or computers to touch
21:07
Speaker 10: base with immigration officials while they wait for their date
21:10
Speaker 10: in court. Instead of appearing for those check ins in person.
21:14
Speaker 10: A source tells Fox News Ice has been using the
21:17
Speaker 10: app already in a couple of cities, but according to
21:19
Speaker 10: the New York Post, it's going to be launched officially
21:22
Speaker 10: next month in New York City. The field office there
21:25
Speaker 10: reportedly has been overwhelmed, fully booked with appointments for a year.
21:28
Speaker 10: Our sources tell us that's really the push to get
21:32
Speaker 10: this backlogged moved through. The concerns regarding this app. Obviously,
21:35
Speaker 10: it's a new app, so there's going to be some glitches.
21:38
Speaker 10: The other wider concern is could it cause even more
21:41
Speaker 10: migrants to go under the radar. We'll have to see
21:44
Speaker 10: what happens.
21:44
Speaker 4: John.
21:45
Speaker 2: There's also some major issues in the reporting with this app.
21:49
Speaker 2: For example, the app reportedly has severe glitches and issues
21:54
Speaker 2: and does not track a migrants location if he or
21:57
Speaker 2: she is using an Android phone or laptop. So hey,
22:00
Speaker 2: if you're an legal immigrant, just don't use an iPhone
22:02
Speaker 2: and they won't be able to track you. The app
22:04
Speaker 2: also does not check migrants for pass arrests or outstanding warrants,
22:09
Speaker 2: which is what they do now currently, and so that's
22:12
Speaker 2: another problem.
22:13
Speaker 1: They say.
22:13
Speaker 2: The app allows them to opt out of the contest
22:16
Speaker 2: government orders to undergo electronic tracking, so you can just
22:19
Speaker 2: say no, I don't want to be tracked.
22:20
Speaker 1: There's no way to find you.
22:21
Speaker 2: And they know all of these glitches are in here,
22:24
Speaker 2: and yet they're going, yes, we should move forward with this,
22:26
Speaker 2: knowing that Donald Trump's going to undo it.
22:28
Speaker 3: Well, understand, the problem is not just that Donald Trump's
22:31
Speaker 3: going to undo it, but the Biden administration is trying
22:34
Speaker 3: to make it harder to find these illegal immigrants. Why
22:37
Speaker 3: would you say, Hey, you don't have to check in
22:39
Speaker 3: in person. Hey, you can check in on an app
22:41
Speaker 3: that doesn't track your location, if you're on an Android
22:43
Speaker 3: for it. Hey, you can check in in a way
22:45
Speaker 3: that we're not going to find out if you've been arrested,
22:47
Speaker 3: if you have a warrant. This is all designed to
22:50
Speaker 3: help illegal immigrants go underground because Joe Biden, Kamala Harrison.
22:55
Speaker 3: Let's be clear, every Democrat in the House and Senate,
22:57
Speaker 3: you don't hear any of the Democrats speaking out of
22:59
Speaker 3: it against this. None of them are saying this is wrong,
23:02
Speaker 3: don't do this. This is designed to make it more
23:05
Speaker 3: difficult for the incoming administration to find illegal immigrants. And
23:09
Speaker 3: to arrest illegal immigrants and to deport illegal immigrants. That
23:13
Speaker 3: includes the convicted murderers that have been released by this administration,
23:17
Speaker 3: the convicted rapists, the convicted child molesters. You look at,
23:21
Speaker 3: twenty twenty three set the record for the highest number
23:26
Speaker 3: of illegal immigrants entering the country in a single year,
23:29
Speaker 3: three point two million. And Joe Biden and Kamala Harris
23:32
Speaker 3: they don't want those illegal immigrants removed from this country.
23:37
Speaker 3: They see them as future Democrat voters. This is all
23:39
Speaker 3: about power, and I got to say it is stunning.
23:44
Speaker 3: Well here, I want you to take a look at this,
23:46
Speaker 3: this tweet from Bill malusion that lays out some of
23:50
Speaker 3: the numbers. And for those of y'all that are listening,
23:51
Speaker 3: I'm going to read it to you. This is what
23:53
Speaker 3: Bill Malujin tweeted, new per US official to Fox News.
23:56
Speaker 3: There are currently one point four million illegal immigrants in
24:00
Speaker 3: the US who have been ordered deported by a DOJ
24:03
Speaker 3: immigration judge but haven't been removed yet.
24:06
Speaker 2: So that's, by the way, if people want to know
24:08
Speaker 2: where Trump's going to start, I think Bill Malugin's tweet
24:11
Speaker 2: is a great reminder. There are one point four million
24:14
Speaker 2: illegal immigancs US have been ordered to be deported. So
24:17
Speaker 2: if you want to know where they're going to start,
24:18
Speaker 2: this is where they would start.
24:19
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm told approximately thirteen thousand of them are being
24:23
Speaker 3: held in ice custody, So out of one point four million,
24:25
Speaker 3: only thirteen thousand are in custody. The population of one
24:29
Speaker 3: point four million illegal immigrants have final orders of removal,
24:33
Speaker 3: meaning they have had their immigration cases heard, receive their
24:37
Speaker 3: due process, and have been ordered removed from the US
24:40
Speaker 3: by a DOJ federal immigration judge. A fraction of them
24:44
Speaker 3: may still have appeal options available to them and may
24:47
Speaker 3: not yet be removable. With only thirteen thousand in federalized custody,
24:52
Speaker 3: we are potentially looking at a lot of people roaming
24:54
Speaker 3: around the country who are in the US illegally and
24:57
Speaker 3: who have been ordered removed. It is possible to know
25:01
Speaker 3: how many of them may be in state or local custodies.
25:05
Speaker 3: That one point four million, You're right, is exactly where
25:08
Speaker 3: I expect the Trump administration to start. I also expect
25:11
Speaker 3: them to start with the five hundred thousand convicted criminals,
25:15
Speaker 3: those with other criminal convictions murder, rape, child molestation, who
25:19
Speaker 3: are illegal immigrants, who are released to go and apprehend
25:22
Speaker 3: the criminals. Go after the murderers, the rapists, the child molesters,
25:25
Speaker 3: go after the Venezuelan gang members. If you're a Venezuelan
25:29
Speaker 3: gang member, my advice is pack up and move out
25:32
Speaker 3: right now, because we're coming for you. That this administration
25:35
Speaker 3: is going to arrest you. They're going to remove you,
25:37
Speaker 3: they're going to deport you, and if you've committed criminal offenses,
25:40
Speaker 3: they're going to put you in jail.
25:42
Speaker 2: Let's talk about the tone death aspect of this, and
25:45
Speaker 2: I say tone death. Some people would care. They don't
25:48
Speaker 2: seem to care. Referring to the Biden administration. You just
25:50
Speaker 2: had a trial that was watched in Georgia of an
25:55
Speaker 2: incredible young lady who fought for a life.
25:58
Speaker 1: For eighteen minutes.
26:00
Speaker 2: Eighteen minutes she was fighting to save her own life.
26:03
Speaker 2: She was ultimately killed by an league emmorrant that we
26:05
Speaker 2: were paying for the hotel rooms, we were flying him
26:07
Speaker 2: from New York to Georgia, and we're allowing him to
26:11
Speaker 2: be able to kill this incredible student in nursing school.
26:15
Speaker 2: And yet the response from this administration is, yeah, we're
26:19
Speaker 2: gonna keep facilitating that and do it on an app
26:21
Speaker 2: and make sure we can't track people for the next
26:23
Speaker 2: seventy days because well, we're sorry that you guys picked
26:27
Speaker 2: Donald Trump and you wanted security.
26:28
Speaker 1: We're not gonna give that to you.
26:30
Speaker 5: Well, it's even worse than that.
26:32
Speaker 3: The attitude of a great many Democrats is massive resistance.
26:37
Speaker 3: It is reminiscent of Bull Connor during the Civil rights battles.
26:41
Speaker 3: Bull Connor was an elected Democrat who did not want
26:45
Speaker 3: to follow the law and was defying the law, and
26:47
Speaker 3: he was bitterly angry. I want you to get Give
26:50
Speaker 3: a listen to a modern day Bull Connor, which is
26:53
Speaker 3: the Democrat mayor of the city of Denver. Give a
26:55
Speaker 3: listen to what he has to.
26:56
Speaker 4: Say about civil disobedience. You've mentioned that a couple of
26:59
Speaker 4: times now. Would you be willing to participate in those
27:02
Speaker 4: as the mayor of Denver? Would you be willing to
27:04
Speaker 4: go out and protest these things?
27:05
Speaker 11: I would if I believe that our residents are having
27:08
Speaker 11: their rights violate. If I think things are happening that
27:10
Speaker 11: are illegal or immoral or an American in our city,
27:13
Speaker 11: I would certainly protest it, and I would expect other
27:16
Speaker 11: residents would do the same.
27:17
Speaker 4: Trump's new borders are. Tom Homan has said that he
27:20
Speaker 4: is willing to arrest leaders like yourself for standing in
27:25
Speaker 4: the way of these policies that they want to enact.
27:29
Speaker 4: Would you be willing to go to jail for these things?
27:31
Speaker 11: Yeah, I'm not afraid of that, and I'm also not
27:33
Speaker 11: seeking that. I think the goal is we want to
27:35
Speaker 11: be able to negotiate with reasonable people how to solve
27:38
Speaker 11: hard problems for publican and democratic presidence in the past
27:41
Speaker 11: have all tried to find solutions to these problems. President
27:43
Speaker 11: Reagan help people get access to work so they could
27:45
Speaker 11: stay and support themselves. Biden Harris worked on restricting entry
27:48
Speaker 11: at the border to close down There are a lot
27:49
Speaker 11: of ways to approach this problem. We don't think it
27:52
Speaker 11: has to come to this, but yeah, I think when
27:54
Speaker 11: you look at Ralph Carr has always been one of
27:56
Speaker 11: my heroes. He was the governor who in the middle
27:58
Speaker 11: of the interment of Japanese Americans said this was the
28:00
Speaker 11: wrong thing to do, and he stood up. It was unpopular.
28:02
Speaker 11: People were mad at them about it. That was the
28:04
Speaker 11: middle of wartime. If the president or any of his
28:07
Speaker 11: actors are going to do things that we think are
28:08
Speaker 11: illegal or immoral, or an American will stand up against those.
28:11
Speaker 1: It's amazing how the law doesn't matter.
28:13
Speaker 2: He just said, well, if it's the thing I think
28:15
Speaker 2: is immoral, then I'm going to just say I'm not
28:17
Speaker 2: going to follow the law. That's clearly and they want
28:20
Speaker 2: to become martyrs, they want to become famous. He's enjoying
28:23
Speaker 2: this moment. Please put me in handcuffs, make me a martyr.
28:26
Speaker 2: And I'm saying that we are still a sanctuary city.
28:29
Speaker 3: So understand, the mayor of Denver is the modern day
28:33
Speaker 3: Bull Conner. He is standing at the courthouse saying I
28:38
Speaker 3: will block federal law. I will not follow federal law
28:42
Speaker 3: because my politics, my prejudices. It's interesting he referenced Japanese
28:47
Speaker 3: internment camps. Who was it that ordered Japanese internment camps?
28:49
Speaker 3: That was a Democrat president.
28:51
Speaker 5: Fdr.
28:52
Speaker 3: You want to talk about patterns of lawlessness, The Democrat
28:55
Speaker 3: Party has over a century of history of lawlessness.
28:59
Speaker 5: And I'm going to call for something right now.
29:01
Speaker 3: So the mayor of Denver is said, we want illegal
29:04
Speaker 3: immigrants in our city. We will fight to keep illegal
29:07
Speaker 3: immigrants in our city. I don't care that the voters
29:09
Speaker 3: don't want it. I don't care what federal law says.
29:11
Speaker 3: I don't care about the women being murdered, the women
29:14
Speaker 3: being raped, the children being assaulted. I'm going to call
29:17
Speaker 3: right now for Greg Abbott, the governor of Texas, for
29:20
Speaker 3: Ron de Santis, the governor of Florida, for any other
29:22
Speaker 3: red governor to start sending buses to Denver, Colorado. Mayor
29:28
Speaker 3: of Denver wants illegal immigrants. Well, you know what, Joe Biden.
29:32
Speaker 3: One of the lies that mayor just said as well,
29:34
Speaker 3: Biden and Harris tightened the standards at the border. That
29:37
Speaker 3: is called a lie. They didn't tighten the standard, They
29:39
Speaker 3: open up the border. Texas is being invaded right now,
29:43
Speaker 3: and I'm going to urge the state government of Texas
29:46
Speaker 3: send every one of the illegals who comes into the
29:48
Speaker 3: state to Denver, Colorado, drop them off in front of
29:52
Speaker 3: the mayor's residence. He wants them there. He's willing to
29:55
Speaker 3: go to jail to fight for them to be there. Fine,
29:58
Speaker 3: we will send you the Vennezuelan gang members to your
30:02
Speaker 3: city and let's see. You know, I'm going to predict
30:04
Speaker 3: right now the residents of Denver aren't going to like this.
30:06
Speaker 3: I'm going to predict right now.
30:08
Speaker 1: When is a tipping point?
30:09
Speaker 2: That was the question was going to ask you, because
30:10
Speaker 2: it is in Colorado where we've seen these gangs from
30:13
Speaker 2: Venezuela take over apartment complexes.
30:16
Speaker 5: Aurora, Colorado.
30:17
Speaker 3: And by the way, ABC, the corporate media just said, well,
30:20
Speaker 3: it was only a handful of apartment complex.
30:22
Speaker 5: Well you know of them.
30:23
Speaker 3: You know what, We'll send a few more and let
30:25
Speaker 3: us know when you would like us to stop because
30:27
Speaker 3: you're so proud see today's Democrat. They don't fight for
30:33
Speaker 3: American citizens, They fight for illegal immigrants. They fight for
30:36
Speaker 3: Venezuelan gang members. They want more of them there. Well,
30:39
Speaker 3: I'm happy to remove them from the state of Texas,
30:41
Speaker 3: to remove them from Florida, to remove them from other
30:43
Speaker 3: red states and guess what, they can all all learn
30:47
Speaker 3: to be ski pros.
30:48
Speaker 2: Is it a real threat? And I'm not kidding when
30:51
Speaker 2: I say this, I mean it really. Is this a
30:53
Speaker 2: real threat to these mayors where they don't realize what's
30:56
Speaker 2: about to change because illegal immigrants are going to hear
30:59
Speaker 2: this through translation that if you're in a place that
31:02
Speaker 2: where they're starting to arrest people. Let's say you use Texas,
31:05
Speaker 2: Let's say you use Houston as a great example. Let's
31:08
Speaker 2: say that people actually are getting arrested in being deported
31:11
Speaker 2: and then.
31:12
Speaker 1: You're like, we got to get out of here.
31:14
Speaker 2: Is this not going to be one of the biggest
31:15
Speaker 2: backfires in modern political history where illegal imm're gonna say, hey,
31:18
Speaker 2: we hear that Denver and we have a video of
31:21
Speaker 2: the Denver mayor saying come here and you'll be safe,
31:24
Speaker 2: will protect you, and they get flooded, just like New
31:27
Speaker 2: York City and other sanctuary cities.
31:29
Speaker 3: By the way, Denver is also one of the whitest
31:31
Speaker 3: cities in America. So you've got rich white liberals saying,
31:33
Speaker 3: come invade our city. We don't care if our families
31:36
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31:40
Speaker 3: the Democrats didn't learn anything from this election. They're not repentant.
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Speaker 2: that we've been against for quite some time.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, we're going to send you those as well.
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Speaker 3: Two decisions that have played out in the last ten days.
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Speaker 3: Number one, the Biden White House has signed off on
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Speaker 3: Ukraine firing US made long range missiles directly into Russia,
34:20
Speaker 3: attacking Russia, attacking within the interior of Russia using American weapons.
34:26
Speaker 3: And number two, as you just noted the Biden administration
34:29
Speaker 3: signing off on sending anti personnel land mines to Ukraine
34:34
Speaker 3: again to use against Russian citizens. But one of the
34:37
Speaker 3: problems with land mines is they often stay buried and
34:39
Speaker 3: they kill civilians for years or even decades later. And
34:43
Speaker 3: one thing you noted that I think was important during
34:46
Speaker 3: the entire course of this war, Joe Biden and Kamala
34:49
Speaker 3: Harris haven't signed off on either of these steps until
34:53
Speaker 3: right now. So before the election they didn't want to
34:57
Speaker 3: do so, when they would have owned any escalation that
35:00
Speaker 3: came from it, they didn't give the green light. But
35:03
Speaker 3: after the election's over, after they're on the way out,
35:05
Speaker 3: it's like they're standing there pouring gasoline around the White
35:09
Speaker 3: House and looking for a match. I mean, they really are,
35:11
Speaker 3: I think, trying to light things on fire. I got
35:14
Speaker 3: to say, as this news was breaking, I was on
35:17
Speaker 3: Trump Force one with President Trump flying down to Boka
35:22
Speaker 3: Chik in Brownsville, Texas for the SpaceX launch, and we
35:25
Speaker 3: were watching on TV the news about the Biden administration
35:29
Speaker 3: and what it was doing to deliberately escalate the war
35:32
Speaker 3: in Ukraine, the war with Russia. I got to say,
35:34
Speaker 3: every person on the plane, we were all shaking our
35:37
Speaker 3: heads saying they're trying to start World War three. I mean,
35:40
Speaker 3: I mean that's it is deliberately trying to make things worse.
35:46
Speaker 3: And understand, we will see next year the war in
35:49
Speaker 3: Ukraine will be over and the war in Israel will
35:52
Speaker 3: be over both of those. Israel will defeat Hamas that
35:55
Speaker 3: is going to happen, and the war in Ukraine will end.
35:58
Speaker 3: It will end with some sort of negotiated settlement. I
36:01
Speaker 3: believe it will end with Russia losing, facing a serious loss,
36:05
Speaker 3: but it will come to an end. And this Biden
36:08
Speaker 3: Whitehouse they don't want either of those outcomes to happen.
36:12
Speaker 3: And so these decisions I think are systematically designed to
36:17
Speaker 3: make it harder and harder and harder to end these wars.
36:21
Speaker 3: And they're incredibly irresponsible. It is the foreign policy equivalent
36:27
Speaker 3: of what they're doing on the border in both instances,
36:29
Speaker 3: trying to make it all as bad as possible before.
36:32
Speaker 5: The new administration comes in.
36:34
Speaker 2: Can we just go back to twenty sixteen and the
36:36
Speaker 2: narrative finally, which was Donald Trump is unhinged, Donald Trump
36:41
Speaker 2: is going to start World War three.
36:42
Speaker 1: It was all over the news for weeks on end. Oh,
36:45
Speaker 1: this guy's unhinged. He's crazy.
36:46
Speaker 2: He's got the nuclear codes, he's got the football right
36:49
Speaker 2: in the briefcase, and you can't trust him, and he's
36:51
Speaker 2: going to start war three and he's a threat to
36:53
Speaker 2: national security. He didn't start any wars. He didn't send
36:57
Speaker 2: land mines, by the way to the countries to use them.
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Speaker 2: And now we have these decisions that are being made.
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Speaker 2: Where is the international condination of this, Like it's been
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Speaker 2: pretty quiet, like you would think a lot of people
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Speaker 2: would be seeing it going America.
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Speaker 1: You don't need to be doing this. You certainly don't
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Speaker 1: need to be sending land mines.
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Speaker 2: When this broke, I was googling news stories about trying
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Speaker 2: to get current information. There was an article about a
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Speaker 2: week ago that there was a landmine. And this is
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Speaker 2: the reason why much the world says no to this.
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Speaker 2: That was from World War two eighty years ago that
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Speaker 2: blew up under a tarmac in Japan. It was an
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Speaker 2: American land mine that was used during World War two.
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Speaker 2: And that's how long these things can stay around. That's
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Speaker 2: the reason why there's some people are like, hey, let's
37:38
Speaker 2: not do this. If we like, let's dial this back
37:40
Speaker 2: and they're like, Yeah, this is a great idea. Let's
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Speaker 2: just throw them out there to Ukraine. See what happens.
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Speaker 5: Well.
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Speaker 3: And I got to say, I'm not convinced that either
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Speaker 3: Biden or Harris are the decision makers here. I think
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Speaker 3: Kamala is on a beach somewhere in Hawaii and I
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Speaker 3: have no indication that she is engaged in anything. And
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Speaker 3: Joe Biden, who hell knows what he knows. I think
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Speaker 3: this is the bitter partisans in the White House. I
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Speaker 3: think this is the young apparatchicks who've been running the
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Speaker 3: federal government for four years. Anyway, I think this is
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Speaker 3: Obama lashing out, and I think this is this team
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Speaker 3: and his team, and I think there deliberately.
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Speaker 5: I think it is brazenly irresponsible.
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Speaker 3: It's called sabotage, and that is what they are trying
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Speaker 3: to do on the way out.
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Speaker 5: And you know what, if you.
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Speaker 3: Prioritize the welfare of the United States of America, you
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Speaker 3: wouldn't do this.
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Speaker 2: And look, and this was not their policy for the
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Speaker 2: entire administration.
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Speaker 5: It is designed.
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Speaker 3: It is the equivalent of taking a pile of dog manure,
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Speaker 3: putting it in a paper bag, lighting it on fire.
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Speaker 3: Sticking it on someone's front door and ringing the doorbell.
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Speaker 3: That's what they're trying to do to the incoming administration.
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