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Leftists Celebrate an Anti-Capitalist Murderer & Mourn the Acquittal of a Marine Who Saved his Fellow Subway Passengers from a Deranged Violent Criminal · The Ben Ferguson Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Welcome in his verdict with Center, Ted Cruz Ben Ferguson
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  Speaker 1: with You and Center. There are two big stories and
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  Speaker 1: they are just on total opposite ends of the spectrum
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  Speaker 1: and how the media is covering it. One of them
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  Speaker 1: deals with a anti capitalist climate activist who's become some
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  Speaker 1: sort of hero to the left who has now been
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  Speaker 1: charged with murdering the healthcare CEO. And the other story
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  Speaker 1: deals with Daniel Penny, who was found not guilty in
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  Speaker 1: New York City and yet there's still going after him
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  Speaker 1: as an innocent man.
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  Speaker 2: Well.
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  Speaker 3: Tragically, these two stories both show just how twisted and
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  Speaker 3: messed up the radical left has gotten. With the first story,
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  Speaker 3: we saw this CEO murdered in cold blood, shot on
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  Speaker 3: the street in New York. The alleged murderer is a
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  Speaker 3: radical leftist, allegedly an anti kNs capitalist, a climate activist,
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  Speaker 3: uh and and he is being celebrated by the left.
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  Speaker 3: He's been celebrated, raided on TikTok on Twitter.
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  Speaker 4: Uh.
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  Speaker 3: It is disgusting. It is the reaction of the radical
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  Speaker 3: left shows just how they they not only normalize, but
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  Speaker 3: but are cheering uh the murder of anyone they choose
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  Speaker 3: that they dislike. And then on the flip side, Daniel Penny.
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  Speaker 3: You look at what Daniel Penny did. This is a
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  Speaker 3: marine who defended his nation. And you had a mentally ill,
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  Speaker 3: homeless guy who was threatening to murder people on the subway.
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  Speaker 3: And and Daniel Penny was a good samaritan who intervened
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  Speaker 3: and and may well have saved the lives of his
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  Speaker 3: fellow passengers. And and what as Alvin Bragg do. He
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  Speaker 3: immediately turns around him, tries to prosecute him, put him
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  Speaker 3: in jail. These two together really illustrate just how messed
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  Speaker 3: up UH today's radical lefe is and it's sad, and
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  Speaker 3: it's frightening and it needs to change.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and we're going to break down a lot of
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  Speaker 1: what they said because I think exposing a lot of
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  Speaker 1: of service today. So let's start center with this first,
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  Speaker 1: just I think shocking case of this anti capitalist climate
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  Speaker 1: activist who murdered this healthcare ceo and they're actually praising
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  Speaker 1: him on the left. Is the hot assassin is what
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  Speaker 1: was trending earlier on social media, and people that want
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  Speaker 1: to send in money for his defense fund, and people
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  Speaker 1: attacking whoever the worker was at McDonald's for example, they
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  Speaker 1: called the police about a cold blooded assassin.
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  Speaker 3: Well you look at what happened, and number one, he
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  Speaker 3: just walked up and shot shot the ceo, and in
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  Speaker 3: cold blood. It was horrific, it was deliberate murder. Here's
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  Speaker 3: here's the the opening paragraph of the New York Post
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  Speaker 3: story when when this suspect was arrested quote the suspect
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  Speaker 3: nabbed in the killing of United Healthcare Sea Brian Thompson
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  Speaker 3: is an anti capitalist Ivy League grad who liked online
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  Speaker 3: quotes from unibomber, ted Kaczynski and seethed in a three
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  Speaker 3: page manifesto these parasites simply had it coming. Law enforcement
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  Speaker 3: sources have told The Post, this guy is a hard leftist.
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  Speaker 3: He was apparently unhappy at the healthcare health insurance industry.
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  Speaker 3: And by the way, look that's not an unreasonable position
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  Speaker 3: to be unhappy at insurance companies. That's something reasonable people
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  Speaker 3: can believe. What reasonable people don't do is murder those
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  Speaker 3: people they don't like and to do it. Yet, you know,
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  Speaker 3: this suspect is from a wealthy family. He was the
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  Speaker 3: valedictorian of his prep school in Baltimore. He went to
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  Speaker 3: the University of Pennsylvania. And you look at the early reports,
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  Speaker 3: and we're going to learn more about what was happening
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  Speaker 3: in this person's life. But but you know what was
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  Speaker 3: what was reported as high school friends. This is again
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  Speaker 3: from the Post, said they were shocked to learn that
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  Speaker 3: the one time prep school valedictorian and stellar University of
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  Speaker 3: Penngraduate may have been struggling and even more stunned to
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  Speaker 3: learn of his bust tied to the case. And one
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  Speaker 3: of the classmates said he was always doing the right thing.
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  Speaker 3: He always had a smile in his face. And he
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  Speaker 3: was described as a normal frat guy. And and and
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  Speaker 3: you have to wonder if this guy was radicalized in
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  Speaker 3: in college. I mean, we have seen, you know, one
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  Speaker 3: of the quotes. He was just a normal frat guy.
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  Speaker 3: He played beer pong, some girls thought he was hot,
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  Speaker 3: that dynamic look. At some point, you know, there's a
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  Speaker 3: video online of him giving his commencement speech in high school,
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  Speaker 3: and he comes across as a pretty normal kid in
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  Speaker 3: high schoo and at some point between then an age
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  Speaker 3: twenty six, he became radicalized.
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  Speaker 2: And and and.
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  Speaker 3: We don't know at this point if the guy's just nuts,
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  Speaker 3: I mean, Ted Kaczinski certainly, by all appearances, was nuts.
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  Speaker 3: And maybe that was some of it, or or if
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  Speaker 3: he's a radical or both. But what we do know
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  Speaker 3: is is the reaction of people on the left, multiple
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  Speaker 3: people on the left, has been just disgusting. And and
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  Speaker 3: and let me give you an example. I want you
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  Speaker 3: to listen to former Washington Post and New York Times
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  Speaker 3: reporter Taylor Lorenz describing this murder and and just listen
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  Speaker 3: to her.
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  Speaker 5: I do believe in the sanctity of life, and I
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  Speaker 5: think that's why I felt, along with so many other
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  Speaker 5: Americans joy Unfortunately, you know, because of seriously I mean
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  Speaker 5: ex maybe not joy, but certainly not know certainly not empathy.
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  Speaker 5: Because again we'll see the footage.
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  Speaker 2: How come this make you joyful?
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  Speaker 3: This guy's a husband, is a father, and he's being
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  Speaker 3: dumbed down in the middle of Manhattan.
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  Speaker 2: Why does that make you joys.
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  Speaker 5: The Americans that be murdered, So are tens So are
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  Speaker 5: the tens of thousands of Americans, innocent Americans who died
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  Speaker 5: because greedy health insurance executives like this one push policies
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  Speaker 5: of denying care to the most vulnerable people. The many
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  Speaker 5: millions of Americans that have watched people that I care
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  Speaker 5: about suffer and in some cases die because of lack
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  Speaker 5: of HELSS.
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  Speaker 2: Should they will be killed?
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  Speaker 6: Then?
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  Speaker 2: Should they will be killed these healthcare executives? Would that
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  Speaker 2: make you even more joyful?
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  Speaker 1: Uh?
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  Speaker 5: No, that would not.
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  Speaker 7: I don't know how. By the way, in journalism.
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  Speaker 1: You can keep your job if you go on national
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  Speaker 1: TV and you say something like this. But apparently if
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  Speaker 1: you're on the left you can say this. You can
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  Speaker 1: say you found joy in watching a man with children
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  Speaker 1: and a wife who has a job walking down the
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  Speaker 1: street in New York City be executed. And she's seeing the
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  Speaker 1: footage like, well, I mean, and it's joy. Okay, maybe
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  Speaker 1: it's that total joy. I believe her when she said
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  Speaker 1: it was joy. I think that there's many out there,
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  Speaker 1: and we're seeing it on social media center that are
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  Speaker 1: cheerful and joyful that this is happening. Because it's like
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  Speaker 1: they've decided that, hey, there can be an enemy's list now,
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  Speaker 1: and we can murder or advocate for offering any person
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  Speaker 1: in any position of power that we don't like, and
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  Speaker 1: we're going to normalize it in America, and that is dangerous.
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  Speaker 3: Well, let me say, Taylor Lorenz's comments there are sick
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  Speaker 3: and twisted, and she should be treated as a deranged
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  Speaker 3: lunatic because she is she is openly celebrating she feels
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  Speaker 3: joy at someone, someone she's never met, being murdered. Why
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  Speaker 3: because she hates all health insurance companies. She hates you know, what.
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  Speaker 3: She's another anti capitalist nut job, but not just nutjob
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  Speaker 3: who who feels joy at the murder of her political enemies. Listen,
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  Speaker 3: Taylor Lorenz. My understanding is she was raised in enormous wealth,
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  Speaker 3: an enormous privilege, and there's nothing worse than rich liberals
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  Speaker 3: who are eager. We saw the same reaction when when
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  Speaker 3: when Donald Trump was almost assassinated, when he was shot,
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  Speaker 3: and and and people on the left bemoaning that that
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  Speaker 3: that the assassin uh did not kill Donald Trump. That
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  Speaker 3: is and Taylor Lorenz is not some fringe journalist. She
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  Speaker 3: was a reporter both for the Washington Post and the
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  Speaker 3: New York Times, and and and that approach is typically.
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  Speaker 3: I want you to listen now to a University of
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  Speaker 3: Pennsylvania professor Julia Alexeyeva uh talking about about this this assassination.
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  Speaker 1: That is her playing that famous song and above her
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  Speaker 1: it says, have never been prouder to be a professor
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  Speaker 1: at the University of Pennsylvania. So referring to the fact
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  Speaker 1: that he the shooter, uh, this this this man of
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  Speaker 1: of of madness, and the executioner went to the University
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  Speaker 1: of Pennsylvania.
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  Speaker 3: So let me be clear, and I don't know Professor Alexeyeva,
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  Speaker 3: but Penn should fire her. She she is playing that
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  Speaker 3: is a song from Les Miss celebrating the French Revolution.
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  Speaker 3: Apparently the good professor wants the guillotine in the streets,
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  Speaker 3: wants to murder more CEOs. She's cheering, she's proud my
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  Speaker 3: university graduated a murderer, and and and she's celebrating. This
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  Speaker 3: person should not be teaching young people. This professor should
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  Speaker 3: be fired because because this is this is the kind
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  Speaker 3: of radical view and and look, I also want to
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  Speaker 3: play a couple of couple of folks from TikTok and
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  Speaker 3: and and and this is this is emblematic of how
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  Speaker 3: leftists are are are not only normalizing this, but you
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  Speaker 3: know who they're angry at. They're furious that a McDonald's
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  Speaker 3: employee saw this murderer and turned him in and and
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  Speaker 3: and and okay, here's here. Here is one TikToker, a
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  Speaker 3: transgender influencer apparently on TikTok, and we'll we'll leave the
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  Speaker 3: name off, but but play play what they said on TikTok.
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  Speaker 8: They caught the guy that killed the u a CEO
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  Speaker 8: for such a professional hit. It's kind of weird that
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  Speaker 8: the gunman didn't leave the US. The guy that reported
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  Speaker 8: it was a McDonald's worker.
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  Speaker 9: I would never advocate for violence on my page, but
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  Speaker 9: it would be pretty funny if we beat the out
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  Speaker 9: of him, and then when he went to the hospital,
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  Speaker 9: that if he was out of network and had to
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  Speaker 9: pay a huge deal.
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  Speaker 8: I think that would be funny. I'm not advocating for it,
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  Speaker 8: but it would bring a smile to me.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, you are advocating for it, and rolled her eyes
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  Speaker 1: when she said I would never advocate for violence on
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  Speaker 1: my page. She did a like sarcastic eye roll for
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  Speaker 1: people that can't see what we were watching.
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  Speaker 2: And you know what what.
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  Speaker 3: That that TikTok leftist is feeling the same joy Taylor
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  Speaker 3: Lorenz is and and and is is saying, wouldn't it
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  Speaker 3: be wonderful if someone beat up this this McDonald's employee
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  Speaker 3: who you want to talk about like catching a murderer
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  Speaker 3: in a normal SAE time and and and listen, let's
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  Speaker 3: be clear, you and I we disagree with people on
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  Speaker 3: the radical left, but but nobody should be subject to
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  Speaker 3: political violence. Whether I agree with you or don't agree
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  Speaker 3: with you. Murder is wrong, period. The end, and and
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  Speaker 3: all right, play another TikToker to give a sense of
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  Speaker 3: just for the left. Listen, this is the cultural rot
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  Speaker 3: of being told if someone is on the other side,
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  Speaker 3: they are not human, they do not count, and violence
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  Speaker 3: is perfectly acceptable.
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  Speaker 2: Play this other TikToker.
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  Speaker 10: Okay, so they've arrested our hot co assassin. Turns out
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  Speaker 10: his name's Luigi. He's twenty six years old. He's an
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  Speaker 10: Ivy League grad, did his undergrad and masters at Penn
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  Speaker 10: in computer science. Smittype.
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  Speaker 11: He's a little young for me, but ugh, baby, what
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  Speaker 11: is you doing getting caught eating at McDonald's And curse
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  Speaker 11: you McDonald's employee for turning him in.
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  Speaker 10: But I get it. They up the reward of sixty thousand.
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  Speaker 10: Maybe you needed that money. They never understood those crazy
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  Speaker 10: women that wrote inmates in jail, but I guess you
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  Speaker 10: always loved doing that.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, this is an older lady and she refers
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  Speaker 1: to him as the hot assassin and then says, curse
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  Speaker 1: you McDonald's employee for turning him in, But maybe you
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  Speaker 1: need the sixty thousand dollars and that's why I did it. No,
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  Speaker 1: maybe the McDonald's employees actually just did the right thing,
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  Speaker 1: because they saw an assassin sitting in the sea in
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  Speaker 1: the McDonald's and they said, hey, I want to make
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  Speaker 1: sure this guy doesn't take out another innocent person.
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  Speaker 3: Well, and and and notice, you know, she says, what
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  Speaker 3: is you doing not committing murder but getting caught? Like,
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  Speaker 3: how dare you get caught? I don't want you to
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  Speaker 3: get caught. She's like, I want to write love letters
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  Speaker 3: to this murderer. And and hot assassin was was trending
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  Speaker 3: on Twitter today and and the left is glamorizing and understand,
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  Speaker 3: there is a reason for this. And this is something
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  Speaker 3: you and I have talked about a lot, which is
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  Speaker 3: this is cultural Marxism. This is the fruits of cultural Marxism.
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  Speaker 3: These are the same people that are cheering on Hamas
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  Speaker 3: and Hezbela, and cheering on the murderers and rapists of Hamas,
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  Speaker 3: and are cheering on October seventh, that are on college
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  Speaker 3: campuses waving signs saying we love Hamas, we support Hamas.
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  Speaker 3: These are the same radicals who are screaming at Jewish
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  Speaker 3: students as they did at the University of Washington. Go
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  Speaker 3: back to the gas chambers and the ovens. This is
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  Speaker 3: and We've talked about it. My most recent book, Unwoke,
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  Speaker 3: How to Defeat Cultural Marxism in America. It traces the
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  Speaker 3: growth of cultural Marxism that started in the universities, and
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  Speaker 3: the universities are training young people that the basic Marxist dialectic,
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  Speaker 3: the dichotomy is is between the oppressors and the victims,
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  Speaker 3: and the oppressors and victims, in this case Karl Marx's
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  Speaker 3: original Communist Manifesto, the oppressors were the capitalists, the oppressors
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  Speaker 3: were the owners of capital, and the workers were the victims.
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  Speaker 3: And what Marxists are taught is that the so called
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  Speaker 3: oppressors are evil and bad, and the so called victims
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  Speaker 3: are good and noble. And Marxists advocate the violent revolution
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  Speaker 3: of the so called victims against the so called oppressors,
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  Speaker 3: and that violent revolution almost invariably involves involves murder. That
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  Speaker 3: there is a reason that the cultural Marxist on campus
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  Speaker 3: are celebrating Hamas who murdered twelve hundred Israelis who raped
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  Speaker 3: women and little girls. And to be clear, like Black
• 17:29
  Speaker 3: Lives Matter, the Chicago chapter of Black Lives Matter, right
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  Speaker 3: after October seventh tweeted out an image we support Palestine,
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  Speaker 3: and it was an image of a paraglider. And to
• 17:38
  Speaker 3: be clear, this was not They were not engaging in
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  Speaker 3: a debate about a two state solution in the Middle
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  Speaker 3: East that one can reasonable people can disagree on that question.
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  Speaker 3: They were explicitly the paragliders are what the Hamas terrorist
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  Speaker 3: road flew in on to murder predominantly young people, young
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  Speaker 3: young Jewish people at the music festival outside. They gunned
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  Speaker 3: them down. I have met repeatedly with families of people
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  Speaker 3: who were rape, people who were murdered in October seventh.
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  Speaker 3: It was grotesque, it was evil, and Black Lives Matter
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  Speaker 3: was saying you're our people, We stand with you. And
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  Speaker 3: that is the doctrine of cultural Marxism that has infested
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  Speaker 3: our universities for years after years after years. You know
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  Speaker 3: this professor at Penn that is celebrating, she's celebrating because
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  Speaker 3: she wants the violent overthrow of the so called oppressors.
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  Speaker 3: And and you know what, Taylor Derinz has been taught
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  Speaker 3: the same nonsense. And the problem is cultural Marxism. It
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  Speaker 3: has spread from the universities to k through twelve education,
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  Speaker 3: to journalism, to big business, to big tech, to entertainment.
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  Speaker 3: It is spread. It is spread like a cancer. And
• 18:52
  Speaker 3: you know that there was another image that went viral online.
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  Speaker 3: Why don't you tell people about about the image that
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  Speaker 3: was being sent around today?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, this was another one and I saw it earlier today.
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  Speaker 1: And I think it goes to even a broader conversation
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  Speaker 1: about where we are in this country when it comes
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  Speaker 1: to the left, where it seems that they want to
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  Speaker 1: normalize the execution of anyone they disagree with.
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  Speaker 7: We've seen that with Donald Trump.
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  Speaker 1: Now there's this picture that was put out well put together,
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  Speaker 1: says Health Insurance ceo. Compensation has CEO of Sigma making
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  Speaker 1: twenty one million in his name Wellcare. The salary twenty
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  Speaker 1: three point five million in the name humanis sixteen point
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  Speaker 1: three million. The list goes on and on. The total
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: list is eight different CEOs. CBS Health CEO is a
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  Speaker 1: great example on this list, and all of their pictures
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  Speaker 1: are in color. And then the eighth person on the
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  Speaker 1: list at the bottom right is United Healthcare Brian Thompson
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: ten point two million, and his picture is in black
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: and white. It is very clear that his pictures in black,
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: like why for the hey, he has been killed. We've
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: taken him out. The rest are still living, they're in color.
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: And this started to go out on social media, left
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: and right, and it's obviously the people that want this
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: out there is like, here's our kill list.
• 20:16
  Speaker 7: We started with Brian Thompson.
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: Now here's all the other ones that are still alive,
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: making even more money than he's making.
• 20:23
  Speaker 3: Look, it is twisted, it is sick. We're getting reports
• 20:28
  Speaker 3: of certainly healthcare CEOs, but CEOs across the country who
• 20:32
  Speaker 3: are upping their expenditures in the personal security because the
• 20:36
  Speaker 3: left is reveling in this sort of murder.
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: And let me be clear, murder is wrong, period the end.
• 20:45
  Speaker 3: Regardless of your politics, regardless of whether I agree with
• 20:49
  Speaker 3: you or disagree with you, nobody should be subject to violence.
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: And yet let's go to some of our favorite people,
• 20:57
  Speaker 3: the always charming and wonderful, unreasonable host of the View.
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: They were very unhappy.
• 21:04
  Speaker 3: They were very unhappy today because I called out the
• 21:08
  Speaker 3: extremists left for their violence and their willingness to engage
• 21:14
  Speaker 3: in assassinations and to try to assassinate, to assassinate this CEO,
• 21:18
  Speaker 3: to try to assassinate Donald Trump, and give a listen
• 21:21
  Speaker 3: to Joy Bihar. Just just whining about, oh, don't don't
• 21:26
  Speaker 3: blame us leftists for this, even though we're the ones celebrating.
• 21:30
  Speaker 12: A course, Ted Cruz has to politicize it and say
• 21:33
  Speaker 12: that it's a left wing thing.
• 21:35
  Speaker 7: I mean, the I think it was.
• 21:37
  Speaker 12: The second attempted assassination on Trump was a kid who
• 21:41
  Speaker 12: was a registered Republican who also voted for Biden and
• 21:45
  Speaker 12: had a lot of left wing stuff on his social media.
• 21:48
  Speaker 12: But I don't think that this is as you say,
• 21:50
  Speaker 12: it's not a political issue. And why does Ted Cruz
• 21:54
  Speaker 12: insist on dividing Americans even further?
• 21:58
  Speaker 7: Is my question to him.
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: You listen to the View, and I mean, you want to
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: talk about stretches. So now you're somehow politicizing people that
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: were trying to assassinate and actually shot Donald Trump, and
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: you're calling out the rhetoric. And now they say somehow
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: not only is Orange Man bad, but Ted Cruise is
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: bad as well well.
• 22:22
  Speaker 3: And and look that you know, the hosts of the
• 22:24
  Speaker 3: View are just denying reality.
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: Joy.
• 22:26
  Speaker 3: Every word that just came out of Joy's mouth is
• 22:29
  Speaker 3: complete nonsense. Is is babbling idiocy. And listen, I gotta
• 22:33
  Speaker 3: say I went on on the View for for my
• 22:37
  Speaker 3: second book, and my third book, and and and when
• 22:40
  Speaker 3: I went on for for for my third book, Justice Corrupted,
• 22:44
  Speaker 3: how the Left is weaponized our legal system. Uh, you know,
• 22:47
  Speaker 3: the view came after me.
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: Like like like.
• 22:51
  Speaker 3: Like vultures descending from the sky trying to consume my liver,
• 22:55
  Speaker 3: and they were screaming at me from multiple directions. We
• 22:58
  Speaker 3: actually had protesters stand up in the of the show
• 23:01
  Speaker 3: and disrupt the show, which had apparently never happened before.
• 23:05
  Speaker 3: But they're screaming at me, Well, aren't right wingers all
• 23:09
  Speaker 3: violent protesters? And you guys, it was all about January sixth,
• 23:12
  Speaker 3: and you're violent.
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: You're violent.
• 23:13
  Speaker 3: You're violent, ironically, that's what she was saying. And it
• 23:18
  Speaker 3: wasn't Joy. Joy was not all on that show. But
• 23:21
  Speaker 3: I turned to them and said, look, violence is wrong.
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: It's wrong. Whether I agree with you or disagree with you.
• 23:27
  Speaker 3: Anyone who committed an act of violence, anyone who's assaulted
• 23:29
  Speaker 3: a police officer, they should be prosecuted. Speech, peaceful speech
• 23:33
  Speaker 3: is protected by the Constitution. But I also said, you
• 23:37
  Speaker 3: want to talk about violence, I'm willing to say put
• 23:39
  Speaker 3: anyone in jail who commits active violence, are you? And
• 23:42
  Speaker 3: I asked on that show. What about the Black Lives
• 23:46
  Speaker 3: Matter and Antifa riots all over the country in twenty
• 23:49
  Speaker 3: twenty that burned American cities across the country and whoope.
• 23:52
  Speaker 3: Goldberg looked at me and said, I don't know what
• 23:55
  Speaker 3: an ANTIFA riot is. Look like they're literally living in
• 23:58
  Speaker 3: an alternative reality where they just that they just erase
• 24:05
  Speaker 3: the embrace of violence on the left. You know what,
• 24:09
  Speaker 3: maybe you remember Kamala Harris raising money to bail out
• 24:14
  Speaker 3: of jail, the violent rioters who burned Minneapolis and looted
• 24:21
  Speaker 3: stores and and violently assaulted people. This is who the
• 24:26
  Speaker 3: radical left cheers for, celebrates. You know, Joy ought to
• 24:30
  Speaker 3: ask herself, why does fellow leftist Taylor Lorenz find joy
• 24:36
  Speaker 3: in this cold blooded murder? And you know she's not
• 24:41
  Speaker 3: going to answer that. By the way, I will say
• 24:42
  Speaker 3: the irony the fourth book I wrote, Unwoke, about Cultural Marxism,
• 24:48
  Speaker 3: the view refused to have me on.
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: They'd had me on twice.
• 24:51
  Speaker 3: It apparently had not gone well to them because they're
• 24:54
  Speaker 3: used to just screaming one point of view and not
• 24:56
  Speaker 3: not having to face disagreement, and so they said, nope, no, sorry,
• 25:00
  Speaker 3: you're no longer welcome to the show. We don't want
• 25:03
  Speaker 3: anything other than our one sided view of propaganda that
• 25:08
  Speaker 3: we're spewing.
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: And that's what they continue to do.
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  Speaker 7: No doubt about it.
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: And if you look at this story we just talked about,
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: and you compare and contrast it to how the media
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: is handling the Daniel Penny story of him being found
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: not guilty in that Subway choke hold trial, you can
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: see just how much they push a narrative depending on
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: who you are. You're a veteran and helping people from
• 25:29
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• 27:06
  Speaker 1: Other story and it involves Daniel Penny, and thank goodness,
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: he was found not guilty many people, if you don't
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: remember the story, he was an individual that was protecting
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: innocent people from a violent individual on the subway on
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: the train in New York and He did it because
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: he feared for not only his life, but for others
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: that he was threatening. And Daniel Penny did what I
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: would hope that many men would do, which is to
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: stand in and to help people that are in need,
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: especially if there's someone that is violent. The media immediately
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: flipped this into a oh, white guy choke hold on
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: an African American. This was right in the middle of
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: a lot of the police brutality issues that we were
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: dealing with in this country and the stories and this
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: was a perfect narrative. And they went after this guy
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: and they also found out, oh, he's a veteran. Well,
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: a lot in the media don't like veterans, and so
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: it was a double whammy, and they wanted to put
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: this guy in jail for a very long time. Now,
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: thank goodness, on some on the jury said we're not
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: doing this. This was a victory, and yet they're still
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: attacking him even though now he's been found innocent.
• 28:20
  Speaker 3: Well, thank god that Daniel Penny was acquitted, found not
• 28:24
  Speaker 3: guilty by a jury of his peers, not guilty of
• 28:26
  Speaker 3: criminally negligent homicide. As you noted, Daniel Penny is a
• 28:30
  Speaker 3: twenty six year old marine veteran. He's an architecture student,
• 28:34
  Speaker 3: and he was charged by Alvin Bragg with both manslaughter
• 28:39
  Speaker 3: and criminally negligent homicide for the death of Jordan Neely.
• 28:47
  Speaker 3: Jordan Neely was a thirty year old homeless man who
• 28:50
  Speaker 3: had schizophrenia who barged into a train, was shouting death threats,
• 28:54
  Speaker 3: and he was high on a synthetic marijuana known as
• 28:59
  Speaker 3: as Kate.
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: Now it really is striking.
• 29:03
  Speaker 3: The murderer of the United Healthcare CEO was a twenty
• 29:06
  Speaker 3: six year old and the Left is celebrating that twenty
• 29:10
  Speaker 3: six year old murderer. In this instance, Penny is not
• 29:14
  Speaker 3: a murderer. It is not murder. Self defense is not murder.
• 29:19
  Speaker 3: Defending yourself if you have a reasonable fear for your
• 29:24
  Speaker 3: safety or the safety of others, you have a right
• 29:27
  Speaker 3: to defend yourself. That is not murder. And that's what
• 29:30
  Speaker 3: the jury concluded. And this case should never have been
• 29:35
  Speaker 3: brought if you look at the facts. The facts of
• 29:40
  Speaker 3: what happened here were horrific. And so the incident happened
• 29:47
  Speaker 3: on May one, twenty twenty three, and Neale barged onto
• 29:53
  Speaker 3: an f train in Manhattan, screaming death threats. The other
• 29:59
  Speaker 3: passengers on the train afterwards said that they were thankful
• 30:02
  Speaker 3: for Penny's intervention. Neely had a long criminal record. He
• 30:07
  Speaker 3: had an active arrest warrant, He had a history of psychosis,
• 30:11
  Speaker 3: and he was high on K two, which is a
• 30:13
  Speaker 3: synthetic former marijuana. If you look at what has happened
• 30:19
  Speaker 3: in New York with the violence and violence on subways,
• 30:23
  Speaker 3: just three days earlier, a passenger standing on a subway
• 30:28
  Speaker 3: had been stabbed with an ice pick on a J train.
• 30:33
  Speaker 3: About a month before, a PBS reporter got sucker punched
• 30:38
  Speaker 3: on a Number four train. A week before that, an
• 30:44
  Speaker 3: individual was shoved and hit the side of a moving
• 30:48
  Speaker 3: our train.
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: That individual survived.
• 30:51
  Speaker 3: Uh And and this pattern, you know, one of the
• 30:55
  Speaker 3: one of the witnesses on the train testify that Neely
• 31:00
  Speaker 3: shouted someone would quote die that day. And she went
• 31:06
  Speaker 3: on to say, quote, I got scared by the tone
• 31:08
  Speaker 3: that he was saying it. I've seen situations, but not
• 31:12
  Speaker 3: like that. And and Penny gave an interview afterwards, and
• 31:18
  Speaker 3: and here's what Penny said. He said said about about
• 31:22
  Speaker 3: this this deranged homeless man. Quote he was talking gibberish.
• 31:27
  Speaker 3: But these guys are pushing people in front of trains
• 31:29
  Speaker 3: and stuff. There were more than twenty subway shoves in
• 31:35
  Speaker 3: the year before Penny's encounter with Neely. This case should never, ever,
• 31:43
  Speaker 3: ever have been brought. But Alvin Bragg is a radical leftist,
• 31:48
  Speaker 3: and so Alvin Bragg is a cultural Marxist. He believes
• 31:53
  Speaker 3: he is in abusing the justice system to target his enemies.
• 31:58
  Speaker 3: And for the cultural Marxism, Penny is the oppressor because
• 32:04
  Speaker 3: of his race, because he's a white man and he's
• 32:06
  Speaker 3: a veteran, he is the oppressor, and Neely is the
• 32:10
  Speaker 3: victim again because of his race. Never Mind, they don't
• 32:14
  Speaker 3: care that he's a mentally ill criminal threatening to murder people.
• 32:17
  Speaker 3: That that is his These are people that you know,
• 32:23
  Speaker 3: presumably would have celebrated if Penny had been murdered. Because
• 32:27
  Speaker 3: once they assign you to these two groups, oppressor always
• 32:31
  Speaker 3: always wrong, victim always always always right. That is the
• 32:36
  Speaker 3: radical ideology. And again that the reaction of the left
• 32:44
  Speaker 3: is precisely the opposite of the reaction. And by the way,
• 32:49
  Speaker 3: I want to point out there's a reason I'm using
• 32:52
  Speaker 3: Daniel Penny's name. He was innocent, he was found not
• 32:55
  Speaker 3: guilty by a jury. There's a reason you and I
• 32:59
  Speaker 3: have not the name of the murderer who murdered the
• 33:03
  Speaker 3: United Healthcare CEO. I try very hard not to repeat
• 33:07
  Speaker 3: the names of murderers many times. These people want to
• 33:09
  Speaker 3: be famous, they want to be remembered, and so I think,
• 33:13
  Speaker 3: as far as I'm concerned, this guy's name should be
• 33:16
  Speaker 3: forgotten for all time. But you know what the leftists
• 33:19
  Speaker 3: are going to celebrate is celebrate him because that's their ideology.
• 33:24
  Speaker 7: Yeah, no doubt about it.
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: This is one of those stories where I hope that
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: people will stand up and say this is a hero
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: and be proud to say he is a hero, because
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: that's exactly what he is. And we should celebrate heroes
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: and we should not have to worry that when men
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: need to stand up and act to protect and defend people,
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: that they're going to do it and not have to
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: worry about thinking twice because of what just happened to
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: this individual. It's also a really sad commentary about New
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: York and New York City and the activist prosecutors there.
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: And finally, I want to get your thought on that.
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: With the prosecutors that went after him, should would there
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: be any scenario where he can in essence say, hey,
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: you guys didn't treat me the right way.
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: Look.
• 34:08
  Speaker 3: Look, I could easily see a lawsuit following from this.
• 34:12
  Speaker 3: I hope Alvin Bragg is thrown out of office. I
• 34:15
  Speaker 3: hope he is removed from office. The governor has the
• 34:18
  Speaker 3: authority to do that, of course. The governor, Kathy Hockle
• 34:21
  Speaker 3: is a leftist herself, a cultural Marxist herself. She's someone who,
• 34:25
  Speaker 3: by the way, said, if you're a Republican, get the
• 34:27
  Speaker 3: hell out of my state.
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: Moved to Florida. You don't belong in New York.
• 34:30
  Speaker 3: That is their ideology. If you are the enemy, they
• 34:33
  Speaker 3: are opposed to you. I gotta say, I want you
• 34:36
  Speaker 3: to listen to Daniel Penny and him talking about how
• 34:38
  Speaker 3: he was trying to protect other people's lives. He was
• 34:42
  Speaker 3: acting as a good Samaritan, acting as a hero, intervening,
• 34:46
  Speaker 3: risking his own life. Look, encountering a mentally ill, potentially
• 34:51
  Speaker 3: violent person threatening violence is a dangerous thing to do.
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: Here's what Daniel Penny had to say.
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  Speaker 13: The guilt I would have felt if someone did get hurt,
• 35:00
  Speaker 13: if if he did do what he was threatening to do,
• 35:05
  Speaker 13: would never be able to live with myself.
• 35:08
  Speaker 7: And I'll I'll take.
• 35:09
  Speaker 13: A million court appearances and people calling me names and
• 35:14
  Speaker 13: people hating me just to keep one of those people
• 35:17
  Speaker 13: from getting hurt or killed.
• 35:19
  Speaker 3: Look that that that that is yes. Look and of
• 35:24
  Speaker 3: course how is the left reacting. I want you to
• 35:27
  Speaker 3: listen to m s NBC just just just expressing misery
• 35:33
  Speaker 3: that that that that Daniel Penny was was acquitted. And
• 35:36
  Speaker 3: and understand by the way, initially so there were two charges,
• 35:40
  Speaker 3: uh that were brought. Uh So Alvin Bragg brought two charges.
• 35:45
  Speaker 3: One charge was for manslaughter and the second charge was
• 35:49
  Speaker 3: for uh criminally uh criminally criminally negligent homicide. The jury
• 35:56
  Speaker 3: deadlocked on on the on the second degree remanslaughter claim,
• 36:01
  Speaker 3: which was the more serious charge. So that means they
• 36:04
  Speaker 3: had a disagreement. They could not come to agreement. And
• 36:08
  Speaker 3: so what did Alvin Bragg do. Well, Alvin Bragg moved
• 36:11
  Speaker 3: to dismiss the more serious charge and he was trying
• 36:15
  Speaker 3: to get a conviction on the less serious charge. And
• 36:18
  Speaker 3: I got to say, to the jury's credit, they came
• 36:21
  Speaker 3: back very quickly with a not guilty. So the jury
• 36:24
  Speaker 3: is determined he is innocent. But listen to MSNBC and
• 36:28
  Speaker 3: just how upset they are that this innocent man was
• 36:31
  Speaker 3: found not guilty Banking.
• 36:33
  Speaker 14: News here Daniel Penny found not guilty. But Lisa, we
• 36:36
  Speaker 14: also know that Jordan Neely's family had filed I believe
• 36:39
  Speaker 14: a civil suit in this case as well. Does the
• 36:42
  Speaker 14: verdict in this case impact that not necessarily?
• 36:45
  Speaker 15: I mean the law is wife with examples of people
• 36:49
  Speaker 15: who are quitted in criminal cases and yet find justice
• 36:53
  Speaker 15: with respect to civil accountability. I think the best example
• 36:56
  Speaker 15: of that is with respect to Fred Goldman's family. Fred
• 36:59
  Speaker 15: gold I'm sorry, Ron Goldman being the man who was
• 37:03
  Speaker 15: murdered alongside Nicole Brown Simpson. Even though OJ Simpson was
• 37:07
  Speaker 15: never found criminally guilty for those two murders. Fred Goldman,
• 37:11
  Speaker 15: the father, along with his daughter then sued O J.
• 37:14
  Speaker 14: Simpson Civilly and.
• 37:16
  Speaker 15: One a fairly large verdict with respect to civil liability
• 37:20
  Speaker 15: for OJ Simpson. There are many other examples of similar
• 37:23
  Speaker 15: dysjuncture between what happens in a criminal court and what
• 37:26
  Speaker 15: happens when respect to a wrongful death action, for example,
• 37:29
  Speaker 15: by a family.
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: It's sad center, but there seems to be another trend,
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: and that is if you are an innocent person and
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: then you are found innocent of a crime. If the
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: media doesn't like you, they're still going to act like
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: you're a threat to society.
• 37:42
  Speaker 3: Well, you look at that's a reporter Lisa Rubin on
• 37:44
  Speaker 3: MSNBC who is calling for the mentally ill homeless man
• 37:51
  Speaker 3: who was high on drugs and threatening to murder people
• 37:54
  Speaker 3: on the train, calling for him to find justice against
• 37:59
  Speaker 3: the marine who intervened to protect people and keep people safe,
• 38:03
  Speaker 3: and and and she analogizes it to the O. J.
• 38:06
  Speaker 3: Simpson case, which is utterly absurd because look, O J.
• 38:11
  Speaker 3: Simpson was charged with, and the facts were pretty powerful,
• 38:15
  Speaker 3: was guilty of murder.
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: Now, to be fair, O J.
• 38:18
  Speaker 3: Simpson was not found guilty of murder, but there was
• 38:21
  Speaker 3: significant evidence that OJ was guilty. There was significant enough
• 38:25
  Speaker 3: evidence that he ended up being hit.
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: With a with a large civil judgment.
• 38:31
  Speaker 3: This is not remotely there's no argument, no rational, reasonable
• 38:36
  Speaker 3: argument under the law, that Daniel Penny is guilty of murder.
• 38:40
  Speaker 3: Self defense is fully protected. And by the way, if
• 38:45
  Speaker 3: perchance you don't believe me, you should listen to my
• 38:49
  Speaker 3: former criminal law professor, Alan Dershowitz. Now, Alan Dershowitz is
• 38:53
  Speaker 3: a liberal, He's been a liberal his whole life, but
• 38:55
  Speaker 3: he has the courage to speak out and speak the
• 39:01
  Speaker 3: truth and listen to what Alan Dershowitz said about this
• 39:05
  Speaker 3: case and about the absolutely corrupt prosecutor Alvin Bragg.
• 39:09
  Speaker 14: I got to start off with just the immediate reaction
• 39:11
  Speaker 14: to the not guilty verdict in the Daniel Penny case.
• 39:14
  Speaker 4: I have to admit I was a little surprised.
• 39:16
  Speaker 6: Having hung on the higher count, I was not expecting
• 39:20
  Speaker 6: that they would so quickly acquit on the low account.
• 39:23
  Speaker 6: It probably shows that there were only one or two
• 39:26
  Speaker 6: people in the original high count that hung based on
• 39:30
  Speaker 6: their desire to see a conviction. So I think it's
• 39:34
  Speaker 6: a good thing now. I think the next step has
• 39:36
  Speaker 6: to be the removal of Alvin Bragg from the role
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  Speaker 6: of District Attorney. He is a disgrace to the office.
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  Speaker 6: The two cases he brought should never have been brought.
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  Speaker 6: The case against Donald Trump, which was made up out
• 39:48
  Speaker 6: of old cloth, which to my mind involves unethical unprofessional
• 39:52
  Speaker 6: conduct by Bragg, and also this case, which should never
• 39:55
  Speaker 6: have been brought either. He brought it only because of
• 39:59
  Speaker 6: the racial component case and because of pressures from Black
• 40:03
  Speaker 6: Lives Matter and other groups on the outside. Both white
• 40:06
  Speaker 6: and black radicals who wanted these cases to be brought,
• 40:09
  Speaker 6: wanted this case to be brought, and we're going to
• 40:11
  Speaker 6: continue to complain even though there were obviously black members
• 40:14
  Speaker 6: of the jury who voted to a quite as well.
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  Speaker 16: Professor, what do you make of how quickly they came
• 40:20
  Speaker 16: back with this verdict and also to there's the civil
• 40:22
  Speaker 16: case that he's also facing too, Daniel Penny does that
• 40:27
  Speaker 16: given that he's not guilty on the criminal case, what
• 40:30
  Speaker 16: happens to the civil case as well?
• 40:32
  Speaker 4: It'll be thrown out. There's no case there civilly.
• 40:36
  Speaker 6: The only thing that will happen is that Penny will
• 40:39
  Speaker 6: get an enormous amount of discovery and we'll get much
• 40:43
  Speaker 6: more information that we don't now have about the alleged
• 40:47
  Speaker 6: victim in the case. So my prediction is it will
• 40:51
  Speaker 6: be withdrawn. I don't think they'll go any further. I
• 40:54
  Speaker 6: don't think they'll get any kind of a verdict. Now,
• 40:57
  Speaker 6: you know, maybe the city will settle if they sue
• 41:01
  Speaker 6: the city as well. If I were the lawyers for
• 41:07
  Speaker 6: the alleged victim, I probably think I'd have a better
• 41:10
  Speaker 6: shot at getting some money from the city, which was
• 41:12
  Speaker 6: sympathetic obviously to the victim, than from a poor former
• 41:18
  Speaker 6: marine who probably doesn't have a lot of money.
• 41:21
  Speaker 4: So I don't think the simple case is going anywhere.
• 41:24
  Speaker 4: This is not O. J. Simpson, where the civil case
• 41:26
  Speaker 4: won after the criminal case loss. There was no case
• 41:29
  Speaker 4: here to bring it all, either civil or criminal.
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: Alan Dershowitz there seems to be optimistic, and I'm glad
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: he's saying, Hey, I don't think he's going to have
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: to deal with what, for example, A. J.
• 41:39
  Speaker 7: Simpson had to deal with. This is very different. I
• 41:42
  Speaker 7: hope he's right.
• 41:44
  Speaker 3: Well, listen, Alan Dershwitz. He's a good friend. As I said,
• 41:47
  Speaker 3: he was my criminal law professor, and I actually took
• 41:51
  Speaker 3: another class from him in law school as well. He
• 41:52
  Speaker 3: was a fantastic professor. He's the best professor I had
• 41:54
  Speaker 3: in law school. And he's a brilliant lawyer. He is
• 41:56
  Speaker 3: an incredibly talented lawyer. And you know, I remember my
• 42:02
  Speaker 3: first year in law school when dersh was stood up
• 42:06
  Speaker 3: and he said listen. He said, by any reasonable measure,
• 42:10
  Speaker 3: I am in the most liberal one percent of Americans
• 42:13
  Speaker 3: across this country. And he said at Harvard Law School,
• 42:17
  Speaker 3: oddly enough, I'm considered something of a conservative. This is
• 42:21
  Speaker 3: not America. I don't remember if he said this is
• 42:25
  Speaker 3: not America, but this is not a typical place. I mean,
• 42:27
  Speaker 3: this was thirty years ago, so I'm paraphrasing, but his
• 42:31
  Speaker 3: point was so. Dershowitz believes in free speech. That is
• 42:36
  Speaker 3: no longer where the left is. The left is eager
• 42:38
  Speaker 3: to censor someone who disagrees. Dershowitz does not celebrate the
• 42:43
  Speaker 3: murder of those he disagrees with. Dershowitz is not a
• 42:45
  Speaker 3: cultural Marxist. He's ad old school liberal. He's a civil libertarian.
• 42:50
  Speaker 3: He is, you know, has represented criminal defendants successfully. He's
• 42:55
  Speaker 3: gotten a lot of criminal defense off. He believes in
• 42:57
  Speaker 3: a vigorous protection constitutional rights for criminal defendants, and look,
• 43:04
  Speaker 3: I respect his courage. He's been demonized. He also supports
• 43:08
  Speaker 3: Israel and speaks out very powerfull and effective for Israel.
• 43:11
  Speaker 3: He's been demonized by the left for doing so because
• 43:14
  Speaker 3: they brooke no dissent. Anyone who dares oppose them is
• 43:18
  Speaker 3: the enemy. And so even though he's been one of
• 43:21
  Speaker 3: the most prominent liberals in the country for decades, he
• 43:27
  Speaker 3: is rejected by today's left because he actually has the
• 43:34
  Speaker 3: courage to speak out against them. I hope he's right
• 43:37
  Speaker 3: about the civil case. In any sane and ordinary universe.
• 43:41
  Speaker 2: That would be true.
• 43:42
  Speaker 3: I have to say I have a little bit less
• 43:44
  Speaker 3: confidence about a New York jury and a New York judge.
• 43:47
  Speaker 3: And maybe that's because we all saw the absolute kangaroo
• 43:51
  Speaker 3: courts that were convened against Donald Trump. And having seen
• 43:56
  Speaker 3: the civil suits and the criminal case against Donald Trump
• 44:01
  Speaker 3: and the New York justice system, Uh, he is right
• 44:04
  Speaker 3: on what should happen. Look, I am very grateful that
• 44:09
  Speaker 3: that that Daniel Penny was acquitted, But it says something
• 44:12
  Speaker 3: about how little confidence I have about the justice system
• 44:15
  Speaker 3: in New.
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: York that I was not sure this was happened would happen.
• 44:18
  Speaker 3: I thought there was a chance they they would come
• 44:22
  Speaker 3: back and follow through on what Alvin Bragg wanted them
• 44:25
  Speaker 3: to do, which is punish him because he was deemed
• 44:29
  Speaker 3: the bad guy. And and thankfully that the justice system
• 44:33
  Speaker 3: worked in this case. And you ought to ask yourself,
• 44:37
  Speaker 3: have you seen even a single Democrat celebrate the Daniel
• 44:42
  Speaker 3: Penny verdict?
• 44:43
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