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Second Thoughts | Courage to Connect: Embracing Vulnerability · Neighbourly: Real Stories of Care and Community

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  That curiosity to lean in and to do something different,
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  it it's exactly what you were saying, Johan. I think it's all that sense of
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  control, and there is a thing that we need to pay attention to on our
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  dashboard, that lordship. We might
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  love God in concepts, but are we letting him to be
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  the Lord of our life? Are we releasing that control, not my
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  will, but yours? Even Jesus prayed that prayer.
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  This is Journey with Care, a podcast by Care Impact, where curious
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  Canadians find inspiration to love others well through real life
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  stories and honest conversations.
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  Alright. We are in another second thoughts episode. We are coming off
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  our episode with Emily, and I'm not even gonna
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  try to pronounce her last name with you. Dimitrio. Dimitrio. Although,
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  to be fair, she said, I'm not even sure if that's how it's supposed to
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  be pronounced. So she didn't know how to pronounce her own name. So well, she
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  did have a lot of good insights even if she didn't have insight into her
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  own name. Yeah. Well, would you know how to say your
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  authentic family name in the origin
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  language, I wonder? Well, I I looked up my last name a little
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  bit, and Try me. I've turned plural. I've come
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  to find out. It's supposed to be Heinrich. It's supposed to be Heinrich.
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  I've had lots of weird people pronounce it Heinrichs. That one drives me
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  crazy because I I don't smell. In fact, my wife says I never
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  smell. So that doesn't that doesn't really
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  match my my name. But, you know, throughout time in history,
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  people say, I'm gonna go to the Heinrich house. It didn't sound as good, so
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  let's say Heinrichs because it's plural. And I think that's probably where
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  it came from. Well, my origin name for park, because I'm married
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  to a park, my married name is Puck. But people can't say
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  Puck. And so there's a silent r in there, so everybody says
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  park. So you should have named one of your kids hockey, hockey
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  puck. I was gonna call him a cineboyne or Saint
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  Vettel puck. Anyway, we are
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  getting off topic. We digress. So we are talking about our episode, the
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  courage to stay, how to be present in the midst of suffering.
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  Emily shared some stories and insights that she had, some people that she
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  met. So what has sat with you since having that
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  conversation with Emily, Wendy? Yeah. I really enjoyed
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  having that conversation with Emily. And as you get to
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  know Emily like I've been able to do over these last couple years,
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  there's such genuine heart behind what she's saying. She's not
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  coming into this saying that look at me. I'm I'm caring for the
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  community. She genuinely carries that calling, that heart,
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  that inclination, almost that magnetic force
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  into the community. She just can't help herself. And so that is
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  inspiring to see people like that. It it makes me think,
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  Johan, why is it that some people are gravitationally
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  just that Jesus' heart towards community and to other people
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  that people might otherwise marginalize or walk
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  away from in fear, and what makes other people
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  hesitate, almost the opposite magnetic reaction to
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  caring for community? What makes people inclined to it, and
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  what makes people repel? Well, that was one of the questions
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  I had when Emily was speaking because she said, you have
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  to want to care. And my question was, okay. How do
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  you get to want to care? How do you get to that point? How do
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  you cross that chasm from being indifferent, which this whole
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  series is about? We're we're in the cost of indifference series. How do you get
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  from being indifferent to wanting to care,
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  to not wanting to be indifferent? Well, I think it could be
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  different for different people, different personalities, introverts, extroverts.
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  I can only speak from my own experience and from what I've seen is
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  that when I have been radically cared for by
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  others and I've allowed other people to care for me, it
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  changes my outlook on others as well. It takes out that hesitation, but
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  I have to be willing to be receiving care. And for
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  myself, it was going overseas, living in Central And
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  South America, doing my school, and I was doing some church planting community development
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  stuff. But I also I was there to support, but I was there to
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  learn and to I needed help from my community. I needed my
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  village. And so when I come back now, for
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  me, that was a shift for me. I was more, like,
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  otherwise not outward looking. But now when I see newcomers
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  here in Canada and students, and I was that foreign student in another
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  land, I was that person speaking a different language and fumbling
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  around. And there's a different compassion that I can't make up
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  because you can identify. And and granted, all our stories are
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  different. I can't identify with people going through
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  homelessness or mental health, but I have been vulnerable
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  myself, and I have needed help. And so I feel, like,
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  for me, that has been a shift that continues to challenge me
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  that I need to continue to receive help as much as be
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  there for others, to be human with others for me. I what
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  has helped you be more present with others?
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  Well, I almost wanna take it back to episode three we had with Troy where
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  we really talked about that curiosity factor. Now I shared this
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  in the introduction of Emily's episode, but just to bring it
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  back, this was a long time ago when I was in a previous church.
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  They have an inner city prayer room where where we do worship and
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  feed the poor and the homeless that would come in as well. So
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  I was going in there to lead worship, you know, to do my my thing
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  and serve that way. But there is still a disconnect
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  with those that were in the room. Mhmm. So after going there for a long
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  enough time, you I think the curiosity got to me is, like, you
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  know what? This is actually boring just to
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  serve in this way and not actually connect with anyone. So I began sitting
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  at the tables with them and asking what their stories are because I was
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  getting bored. And I think that curiosity if you're curious
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  enough, everybody has a story, and they have a story to tell.
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  And quite often, it's interesting, and it'll blow you away if you if you actually
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  dig deep. So, again, going back to episode three, it's that
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  curiosity, I think. I don't know. Sometimes, I think we need to allow ourselves
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  to get bored so that we can get curious again. And we
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  have to ask ourselves, if this is an internal thing that each one of us
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  has to do some reflection or maybe in a a small group of of
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  people we trust, is what is killing my curiosity?
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  What is stopping me from being curious? So if I'm not curious, that should
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  be an alarm on our dashboard. Why am I so curious
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  about other people? Not in a nosy kind of way. We're not talking about that,
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  but that inclination, that magnetic inclination towards other.
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  Because if God has really is who he says he is
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  and has created us who he says we are, created in the image
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  of God for community in relationship with others and
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  created for community, why aren't we curious
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  about others? Why aren't we magnetically leaning in? What is
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  that interference, that barrier that's preventing us
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  from naturally being drawn into, the lives of
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  others that is mutually flourishing.
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  I think if we looked closely, fear would be one
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  of the top things in a lot of people's list, and it might look different
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  for different people. But if we are held back
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  by fear, that is something that we can work on,
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  that God can work on if we let him. Like, perfect love casts out fear.
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  God is love. So so what is it internally that I need to
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  do some checks on so that I
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  have a natural, not a contrived, oh, I I
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  should do this. I should help the homeless because, that's what a good
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  Christian should do. People can suss you out. Oh my
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  goodness. They they smell the fear. Right? But what
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  can we do to address those curiosity killers?
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  Yeah. I think it's getting out of our comfort zones again. I don't know
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  about you, but I don't wanna live a boring life that's just
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  sheltered and living in fear and not letting others in
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  because we were amazed for so much more than that. And,
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  like, that's why we're podcasting. We love stories, and
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  we think stories are transformational. When you hear them, you get to understand
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  other perspectives. It makes you think. And I think when
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  we shelter ourselves from that, we're just gonna die
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  inside. Like, I don't know. Yeah. Well, I think
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  we know the right answer is that we don't want a boring life, that we
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  look to the person that's living the life of adventure, that is brave, that
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  is taking the stage, that is taking a stand, that is doing the brave thing,
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  and we look at them like, wow. That's so great. I wanna do that. But
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  in actuality, in praxis, we're taking the cheap seats.
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  We don't actually want to. We aspire to do something. It's wishful
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  thinking, but are we taking the steps to do it? And we think, oh, that
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  chasm from here to there to be like Emily, I could never be
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  like her, and good on you. We we should all be ourselves. But that
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  curiosity to lean in and to do something different, it it's
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  exactly what you were saying, Johan. I think it's all that sense of
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  control, and there is a thing that we need to pay attention to on our
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  dashboard, that lordship. We might love
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  God in concepts, but are we letting him to be the lord of
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  our life? Are we releasing that control, not my will, but
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  yours? Even Jesus prayed that prayer. Can we truly
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  abandon our sense of control and sovereignty of our
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  own life to say, lord, I trust you that you want
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  what's good for my life. You want what's good for that person's life. You are
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  in this, and I'm gonna trust you. And that's when we
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  see growth. That's when we we become alive. And that's why it's
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  better to give than to receive. That's why when we serve
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  people a a glass of water or visit them in prison, we meet Jesus
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  in those times. So it's not about philanthropy. It's in those
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  moments we experience God. But we often take the cheap seats
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  and sing hallelujah from the cheap seats rather than getting
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  into the the real game, and that's where the
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  adventure begins.
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  And if we're not growing, we are actually taking
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  steps back. There's no being stagnant in this. You can't just sit still.
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  That's kind of been a motto of of mine. Like, am I growing in any
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  areas? And if I'm not, I'm probably just I'm probably
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  losing ground and gaining ground. Yeah. I think about looking at a a tree
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  that's been cut in half. And as someone that's curious,
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  I I like, I'll look at those rings and some of them are a lot
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  bigger than others and some look darker. And I'm like, wonder what happened
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  that year. Yeah. It's like, wow, there's a lot of growth in this year and
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  and the next year there's hardly any, but it's still growing.
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  And, eventually, that tree stopped growing and it got cut down. So it's
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  like you you gotta go through those hard years, and there's gonna be good
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  years. But as long as you're taking those steps forward, you're not gonna get
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  cut down. Yeah. Taking those risks. I think, we need
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  to celebrate risk taking and that not everything has to be a
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  happy ever ending, has to have this salvation
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  story or has to have a we baptize Wayne,
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  type of story. It ended in a tragedy. However, there's
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  there's a peace there that just smells like heaven.
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  Right? Not to glorify tragedy,
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  but god enters into those moments still.
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  And I think also another curiosity killer would be that
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  comparison. Well, that person is doing it like this, or this
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  person is doing that, and we we stagnate
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  ourselves by comparison. And and each one of us has been
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  uniquely created by god's image. And what is daring for you,
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  Johan, to put yourself out there might look different than it is for
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  me. But I can testify that in my life, it's those
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  times that god has interrupted me with people that I naturally wouldn't
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  sit and have coffee with that haven't,
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  like, dissuaded me from the faith even though they aren't people of faith
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  or have a very different lifestyle than mine. But it's
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  actually challenged my theology. It's
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  challenged my thinking, and I would say it's helping me
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  refine who I am and become more secure in Christ that
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  in those moments I can trust God. I can give an example.
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  Many years ago, I was at Downtown Winnipeg
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  in Osborne Village, and I was sitting at a bus stop
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  just waiting for a bus to to come through.
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  And, there was many buses coming by, and out of one
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  bus came a big crowd of people. I wasn't paying attention or anything.
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  But then I was approached by one young, gentleman and
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  saying, excuse me. Can I talk to you? And I looked up, and I'm
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  like, okay. Sure. I don't know who you are, but, he
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  introduced himself. He's like, I got off the bus, and I saw a light you
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  were filled with light, and I need to know why. And and so I
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  said, well, why don't we have have coffee? And
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  and he happened to be a white witch. And I'm like, I'm a prayer
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  girl, Mennonite rays, bubble wrapped as it comes. I didn't know
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  the first thing about white witches, but we had this
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  great encounter. I learned about him. He learned about me. We
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  have this exchange that I believe is god
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  sedential. It's actually helped give me more empathy
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  and more compassion and and more strategic prayer for
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  people were living and worshiping in the old cult
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  in a way that otherwise I would have just said, he's bad. I could
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  stay away from him to let's have a conversation. And it
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  it's helped me. I believe God used that. I didn't convert him.
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  I didn't convince him about Jesus, but he saw the light of Christ
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  within me. And it wasn't because I was, like, polishing my halo there
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  either. But I needed that to say, you know what? This
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  person is made in the image of God, and there's a a
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  yearning for light. And it's given me more compassion
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  to not be so judgmental, to withhold my judgment that each person
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  is on a journey. Have you had any experiences that you were pushed out of
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  your comfort zone and yet God used that very
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  encounter, that person to minister to you. I can't think
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  of any examples. Right now, I'm sure, like, I know
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  there probably are, but your story reminds me this
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  is kind of a sidebar, but I heard a guy speaking one time, and
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  he would minister to those marginalized, those in the occult,
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  actually, that the church wouldn't touch. And they'd have, like, these
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  big club gatherings where they're they're clubbing, doing drugs,
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  and all these other things. So he decided, you know what? I'm gonna go right
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  into these neighborhoods, and I'm gonna and I'm gonna do a rave.
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  I'm gonna I'm gonna create a club. And he called it
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  Club Satan. Wow. So so but it it
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  brought all these people in, and right in the middle of of
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  this rave and this club, they actually had a
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  representation, some sort of statue of Satan, and they
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  had clubs where people can literally club Satan in their
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  Oh, I didn't know where this was going. Yeah. Yeah.
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  Anyway, I thought it was hilarious. And he preached the gospel, of course, and people
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  were getting saved. So Wow. Just kind of a play on words to
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  get people in the door. Right?
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  I didn't I didn't do that. But No. But
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  I think the point is proximity matters. Yeah. And
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  people like, we shouldn't beat ourselves up for not, like,
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  naturally being inclined to to be with people that don't look
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  like us, talk like us, think like us. That's a natural inclination.
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  So I think people can rid themselves of that shame. We're just
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  naturally predisposed to do that. However,
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  proximity does matter. As we we see the human in other
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  people and understand our own humanness that we haven't arrived yet.
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  Right? We have Jesus. He's arrived, but but we're still on this
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  journey. But as we get in human to human and we see the
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  humanity in each other and the dei, the the
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  image bearing properties of each other in each other, it's
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  really hard to hate somebody when we're breaking bread
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  together. It's really hard to,
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  say, like, inflammatory words like what goes on in
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  social media when we're willing to
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  mutually sit down together and spend time together
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  and listen. Listening is such a gift. We it doesn't mean we have to
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  correct them, and we're not gonna get cooties for them letting words out of their
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  mouth that doesn't resonate with me. That's not who I am. It's a
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  insecurity issue if we feel like we can't be in proximity. We might
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  have to even think of our theology. Do we think God is that
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  weak that when we're in the presence of others that look different than us, think
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  different than us, have different beliefs and values, that
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  our God isn't strong enough to hold us in those
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  spaces? We need to check how big our god really
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  is. In getting dirty, I think that's again,
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  there's a fear thing there. And I don't know about you, but I I've actually
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  heard some people use the reference in scripture where it
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  says, the poor, you will always have among you. Yeah. They'll use that as an
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  excuse not to actually help the poor, not to get their hands dirty,
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  saying, well, the poor are always gonna be there. So it's like let's let's
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  bring it into context again. This is Jesus. He's getting
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  the perfume poured out on his feet, and his disciples are complaining saying,
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  oh, you could have given money to the poor instead of wasting all that.
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  But Jesus was actually quoting something in Deuteronomy, where it says, the
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  poor you will always have with you in
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  the land. Therefore, I command you, you shall open wide your hand to your brother,
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  to the needy, and to the poor in your land. So it's like Yes.
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  And but even in Jesus' context, I think he's actually
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  speaking to the opposite of what people are using that that as an
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  excuse for because it's the generosity piece. It's
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  the pouring out of of your wealth, and it's the
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  action of doing something. Yeah. We could look at the flip side and say
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  you will always have opportunity to find Jesus. You will always have
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  opportunity to share the love of Jesus and give the hope for
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  glory all around you. It'll never run dry.
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  If we could just flip that. I love the way you're you're looking at it,
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  Johan. He's advocating for generosity. It's like, no. This one's
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  been generous with me by pouring out the perfume on my feet. And then Jesus
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  goes in in another passage, and he says, when I was sick and in prison,
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  when I when I was hungry, you fed me. So it's like when you're
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  doing these things unto Jesus, when you're pouring out that expensive perfume, when you are
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  feeding the needy, when you are visiting those in prison, you are doing it
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  unto Jesus. You're pouring out that perfume on his feet. And not like
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  a checklist. Oh, we should do these things so we can that is our
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  passageway to heaven. That is our passageway to be,
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  closer to Jesus. This is just a natural thing.
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  This is who we are. This is the DNA of the church. But the church
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  is so much more than charity and philanthropy and just giving and doing.
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  It's about being in solidarity with other people, walking
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  alongside, side, not above other people to be with them in
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  solidarity. We are always invited in solidarity
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  with Christ in these places. These are sacred places.
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  And and I think, Johan, different people will be
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  inclined, will see things in different ways,
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  will catch their attention. I I believe that there's something very important
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  here. If somebody's always saying, pastor, we gotta
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  do something about homelessness, Chances are they might be
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  called to that because they they're having eyes to see or their eyes are being
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  opened to that. Or we gotta do something about
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  children and domestic violence. Well, chances are you're
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  being invited, whether that's in a direct response of
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  inviting people to your home or in a professional way or just
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  philanthropy to support those who are professionally supporting these
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  areas. Pay attention to the things that irk us,
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  because those might be the places that invite us, to be
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  present in in a radical way. Wanna take it a step
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  further. I believe this is actually what the culture of the church is meant to
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  be. Like, we shouldn't even have to go to our pastors and say, I think
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  we need to do something about the poor. Because, like, if you look in Acts,
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  we've talked about this in our Neighbour Up, series, which our
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  small group series, which if our listeners are interested in that, we developed
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  a I'm so excited about that, Yohan. Course. We're still developing it.
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  Check it out. Neighbor Up. You can go to cureimpact.ca to get some
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  details or message us. But anyway, we talk about it in Acts
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  where God's grace was so powerfully at work that there were
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  no needy persons among them. Yeah. So, like, they were giving
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  money, and they were putting their houses up for sale. And it was just a
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  cultural church thing where there were no needy among them
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  because this is what the church was meant to be. Well and
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  and you're pushing on a big button there right now, a flashing button
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  in our nation of individualism, and that
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  will rub us the wrong way when it cut it sounds cute,
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  and it sounds right. It is right. I agree with you, Johan. But what you're
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  pressing there is a button of individual, I have my boundaries. I
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  have my things. If people would only work harder, I've
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  deserved this, or I need to not, like, I have to be
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  careful on my own battery reserve, like, how much energy I
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  have. And some of that is true, and that's why it's so easy to press
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  that button. But you're talking about a whole another button that's a
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  little bit more sacrificial. It's not the big
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  individualistic button. It's community button. And it's
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  a lot easier said than done, But it sure is beautiful and tastes
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  like heaven when we go there. I think that's a good
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  place to stop. But before we do, do you have a challenge for the
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  listeners this week? Well, in addition to what Emily
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  challenged us with is, I would say, do some self
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  reflection. Reflect on the things that irk
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  you in society, the things around you.
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  Reflect on also the things that you notice that you
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  might elbow your partner or your friends or your church, and they
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  might not even have paid attention to it the same way. Pay attention to the
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  things in the news that grab your attention, not just in the things that's
• 23:39
  satiated, like, that that we just get kind of sensationalized and sucked into.
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  But But but those little pieces, those curiosity, what makes you
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  curious? Pay attention to that and allow god
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  to be the lord over that and say, god, what do I need to
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  know? I can guarantee you he will show you.
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  He's he's longing for you to draw near to him through
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  people around you, and your adventure is
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  just so close, closer than you think. But we have
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  to dare to trust God with those things. So pay attention to those
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  things and submit them to Christ and say, god,
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  what do you want with this? And let me know what he tells
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  you. I've I've heard some wild things, and god has never
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  let us down. That's great. Now it's time for
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  Care lingo. Alright, Wendy. Care lingo
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  this week. This is a suitable one for today.
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  Radical hospitality. Now we're gonna flip the tables a little bit
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  here, do something a bit different, and I'm gonna get you to give me a
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  wrong definition. Okay. Okay. Radical hospitality.
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  First thing that comes to mind is something that's totally rad. They're in their
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  eighties outfits. They're they're they're tie dye, and they've got a big ghetto
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  blaster on their shoulder. And when I ring the doorbell, they come up and they
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  have music blasting and a bandana around their hair.
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  They've got a mullet. K. I'm basically describing the next current
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  generation. We're going back there. Right? But, they're totally radical. They
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  say, yo, come on in, dude. Come into my
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  house. So the Ninja Turtles being hospitality Yeah.
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  Oriented sort of thing. Yeah. The Ninja Turtles. It's not just, you
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  know, giving away your Netflix account to someone else being extra
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  hospitable. Well, I do that. Is that is that bad? Oh, don't say it out
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  loud. They might find you. Oh, the things we've done in radical
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  hospitality. Things go wild. I give Wi Fi passwords so that kids
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  off the street are who are running from gangs have a safe place. I've done
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  that. True story. You just gotta put some benches outside your door so they are
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  placed at Oakgate. That's how we that's how we keep them safe, and
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  they they find home. Some great examples of radical hospitality
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  from Wendy, because radical hospitality goes beyond politeness.
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  It's it's that open handedness, the open handed way of living
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  that makes people feel like they belong. It's not just about inviting
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  people in. It's about putting benches outside your door and
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  giving Wi Fi. It's creating those spaces where they feel like
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  they're seen and valued. So I'm not sure if you have your
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  windows closed when they're sitting outside, but make sure they're seen and valued, Wendy. That's
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  real hospitality there. Alright. So there's radical hospitality.
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  Until next time, remember to stay curious because
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