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- 0:00[SPEAKER_01]: That's been wife.
- 0:01[SPEAKER_01]: Do you for reals know what we're doing today?
- 0:04[SPEAKER_03]: I do this time.
- 0:06[SPEAKER_03]: I do this time.
- 0:07[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, we had to restart.
- 0:08[SPEAKER_03]: They hadn't had to do that in the long time.
- 0:09[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
- 0:10[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
- 0:11[SPEAKER_01]: Ah, what are we doing?
- 0:13[SPEAKER_03]: Well, the last time we did an episode we did Matthew chapter two.
- 0:17[SPEAKER_01]: Sure, it's fucked up.
- 0:18[SPEAKER_03]: And in that episode, we had basically the magic came to visit, you know, the wise guys.
- 0:25[SPEAKER_03]: The wise guys.
- 0:25[SPEAKER_03]: They came to visit Jesus.
- 0:28[SPEAKER_03]: And they would think they took a circuitous route to go so they could avoid, you know, the king finding out whatever who fucking cares.
- 0:35[SPEAKER_01]: Anyway, so hold on.
- 0:36[SPEAKER_01]: So the king sent them, but they were going on a circuitous route.
- 0:40[SPEAKER_03]: No, that's right.
- 0:41[SPEAKER_03]: Now they... What?
- 0:44[SPEAKER_03]: Anyway, they...
- 0:47[SPEAKER_01]: Anyway.
- 0:49[SPEAKER_03]: But Jesus was the king of the Jews apparently.
- 0:53[SPEAKER_01]: And the king was like, no fuck you, I am.
- 0:56[SPEAKER_03]: That's right, it was the circuitous crowd back.
- 0:58[SPEAKER_03]: They didn't want to...
- 0:59[SPEAKER_03]: I feel like you're couldn't believe me.
- 1:02[SPEAKER_03]: No, I'm not.
- 1:02[SPEAKER_03]: They didn't want to go talk to the king about how this kid, this baby...
- 1:06[SPEAKER_03]: They were like... Oh.
- 1:08[SPEAKER_03]: How he was the king of the Jews.
- 1:10[SPEAKER_03]: The king of the Jews would be like, Wait, no.
- 1:13[SPEAKER_03]: I'm the king of the Jews, now you guys are dead.
- 1:15[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
- 1:16[SPEAKER_03]: So they're like, I don't want to be dead.
- 1:18[SPEAKER_03]: So they went elsewhere.
- 1:19[SPEAKER_01]: And, and then there was Frankenson's and more.
- 1:23[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah.
- 1:24[SPEAKER_01]: And what was the other one?
- 1:25[SPEAKER_03]: I don't remember.
- 1:27[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah, it was good stuff.
- 1:30[SPEAKER_03]: It was gold.
- 1:31[SPEAKER_01]: It was gold.
- 1:32[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, yeah.
- 1:33[SPEAKER_03]: Gold, Frankenson, and more.
- 1:34[SPEAKER_01]: I always forget the goal.
- 1:36[SPEAKER_03]: But then he decided that he should kill all the new warrants.
- 1:44[SPEAKER_01]: Because that sounds him land.
- 1:46[SPEAKER_01]: That sounds cool.
- 1:47[SPEAKER_03]: That's just what you do.
- 1:48[SPEAKER_03]: But luckily, luckily.
- 1:50[SPEAKER_03]: Joseph had a dream and there is an angel again and they told him to go to eat so many fucking angels because of the angel on that dream.
- 2:00[SPEAKER_03]: The other one told him that his wife didn't cheat on except for what God.
- 2:03[SPEAKER_03]: But this one told him to go to Egypt so they went to Egypt and hid there I guess and then we talked about a single all the way.
- 2:10[SPEAKER_03]: That was pretty much the episode.
- 2:12[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah, because I love that movie.
- 2:16[SPEAKER_01]: No, that's such a good movie, y'all.
- 2:18[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, even though it's a Christmas movie, but Jesus is the Christmas story, so that's why.
- 2:24[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, yeah.
- 2:25[SPEAKER_03]: That was Matthew chapter two.
- 2:27[SPEAKER_01]: Sing all the way.
- 2:28[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah.
- 2:29[SPEAKER_01]: That movie's so good y'all.
- 2:31[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, okay.
- 2:32[SPEAKER_03]: All right, so that was Matthew chapter two, which means that today we're getting into.
- 2:36[SPEAKER_01]: Matthew, chapter three.
- 2:38[SPEAKER_03]: All right, let's do this.
- 2:39[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, okay.
- 2:47[SPEAKER_01]: All right, we be hopping into the third chapter of Meta-thu.
- 2:53[SPEAKER_01]: What?
- 2:55[SPEAKER_01]: I kind of think of a fun way to say this.
- 2:56[SPEAKER_03]: I know, and you failed.
- 2:58[SPEAKER_03]: Meta-thu.
- 3:00[SPEAKER_01]: Meta-thu.
- 3:00[SPEAKER_03]: Meta-thu.
- 3:01[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I don't think I failed.
- 3:04[SPEAKER_01]: It was fun for me.
- 3:05[SPEAKER_03]: That was a fail.
- 3:06[SPEAKER_01]: I'd say there was something for me.
- 3:09[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I could call him a little Matty.
- 3:11[SPEAKER_03]: There you go.
- 3:12[SPEAKER_03]: I like that better.
- 3:13[SPEAKER_01]: Little Matty.
- 3:14[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
- 3:14[SPEAKER_01]: Chapter three.
- 3:16[SPEAKER_01]: Little Matty, do he?
- 3:21[SPEAKER_01]: All right, in those days.
- 3:24[SPEAKER_03]: Jesus, yeah, in those days, John the Baptist came.
- 3:28[SPEAKER_03]: Did he?
- 3:29[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he did.
- 3:32[SPEAKER_01]: preaching in the wilderness of Judea and saying, repeat, for the kingdom of heaven has come near, oh, remember, there was going to be some kingdom of heaven, kingdom of heaven, kingdom of heaven.
- 3:44[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, all of these chapters, lots of it, so much, like all up the buttons of, yeah.
- 3:49[SPEAKER_01]: So John the Baptist, I don't know who he is, but he came and he says, repent bitches.
- 3:56[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
- 3:57[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
- 3:57[SPEAKER_01]: This is he who was spoken of through the prophet Isaiah.
- 4:03[SPEAKER_03]: Hmm.
- 4:04[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
- 4:05[SPEAKER_01]: So we have another one of those checklists later.
- 4:08[SPEAKER_03]: You know, this is this feels a little like when he says that this prophet because we read.
- 4:14[SPEAKER_03]: The Old Testament already, and I don't recall anything that said Jesus, and this specifically Don the Baptist.
- 4:22[SPEAKER_03]: I know, but it sounds a little bit like he's like, you know, listen to me and let me listen to me tell you why you should think this guy is the guy.
- 4:29[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
- 4:31[SPEAKER_01]: I don't like it.
- 4:31[SPEAKER_01]: I don't I don't like it.
- 4:33[SPEAKER_01]: One bit with their like, hey, that other stuff, um, just so you know, I'm here to tell you that was about John the Baptist.
- 4:42[SPEAKER_03]: It's a little like Trump trying to tell us that we don't have high gas prices.
- 4:45[SPEAKER_01]: Right, I'm like, I'm sorry, what?
- 4:48[SPEAKER_01]: Have you been out to a gas station?
- 4:51[SPEAKER_01]: He's been from dry.
- 4:52[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
- 4:52[SPEAKER_01]: He doesn't even have a license.
- 4:54[SPEAKER_01]: No, no.
- 4:54[SPEAKER_01]: OK. OK.
- 4:56[SPEAKER_01]: So this is he who was spoken of through the prophet Isaiah.
- 5:00[SPEAKER_01]: OK. Well, I'm going to vote that out.
- 5:01[SPEAKER_03]: That says so, I guess.
- 5:03[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to look that up.
- 5:04[SPEAKER_01]: I don't necessarily believe that.
- 5:06[SPEAKER_03]: Right.
- 5:06[SPEAKER_01]: A voice of one calling in the wilderness, prepare the way for the Lord, make straight paths for him.
- 5:13[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, because you can't remember, you can't, that's true.
- 5:15[SPEAKER_03]: You can't have the crooked paths that'll lead you to those honey sticks and yeah.
- 5:22[SPEAKER_03]: So you don't, we don't want that.
- 5:23[SPEAKER_01]: Remember in that one book where there was a bridge, and if you went off the bridge, there were lines.
- 5:30[SPEAKER_03]: I do remember that vaguely, yeah.
- 5:32[SPEAKER_01]: I feel like was that also a straight or crooked or rainbow path?
- 5:36[SPEAKER_03]: It probably was, yeah.
- 5:38[SPEAKER_03]: So the straight path leads just straight to Jesus apparently.
- 5:41[SPEAKER_01]: And John the Baptist.
- 5:42[SPEAKER_03]: And John the Baptist.
- 5:43[SPEAKER_01]: Who's John the Baptist?
- 5:45[SPEAKER_01]: And what is a Baptist?
- 5:46[SPEAKER_01]: And why is it?
- 5:47[SPEAKER_03]: I don't fucking know.
- 5:48[SPEAKER_01]: I've like, okay, listen, I've heard of John the Baptist, but I don't know anything about him.
- 5:54[SPEAKER_01]: And my first introduction to John the Baptist in the Bible is, in those days, John the Baptist came and Isaiah was taught, that's who Isaiah was talking about.
- 6:03[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I think the Bible would have been a lot more fun of it was John the Ascle.
- 6:07[SPEAKER_01]: I, I just feel like.
- 6:09[SPEAKER_03]: Our soul, if you're, and you know, I feel very resentful.
- 6:13[SPEAKER_01]: Our soul.
- 6:15[SPEAKER_01]: I feel very resentful that this is reading like as though I already know this, but I haven't read it so I don't know it and who is this guy?
- 6:25[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, like this is not user friendly.
- 6:29[SPEAKER_03]: Well, as we've discovered most of the Bible is not user friendly.
- 6:34[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it assumes that you have prior knowledge of things that have already happened to her parents, etc.
- 6:40[SPEAKER_03]: Whatever.
- 6:41[SPEAKER_00]: I don't care for it.
- 6:42[SPEAKER_00]: It makes me angry because I'm like, no, I'm not.
- 6:46[SPEAKER_00]: I'm crazy in a lot of ways.
- 6:48[SPEAKER_00]: This is not one of them.
- 6:49[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
- 6:50[SPEAKER_00]: Don't try to bullshit me by saying what it's the thing you read.
- 6:54[SPEAKER_03]: No, it's not it's not it's not Good story would have like a backstory for John the Baptist, right?
- 6:59[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it's me.
- 7:00[SPEAKER_03]: We'll get like here We're just like we got to take his word before.
- 7:02[SPEAKER_00]: They're like hey, you know John the Baptist and I'm like no I haven't fucking met him.
- 7:06[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know who the fuck you're talking about.
- 7:08[SPEAKER_00]: I'm a sentence in right?
- 7:11[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
- 7:11[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah
- 7:12[SPEAKER_00]: A voice of one calling in the wilderness prepare the way for the Lord make straight paths for him.
- 7:17[SPEAKER_00]: Also fuck off.
- 7:20[SPEAKER_01]: John's clothes were made of camel's hair and he had a leather belt around his waist.
- 7:27[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
- 7:27[SPEAKER_01]: He sounds like one who be food.
- 7:29[SPEAKER_01]: He was well dressed.
- 7:32[SPEAKER_01]: His food was locus and wild honey.
- 7:35[SPEAKER_01]: That was probably pretty good back then.
- 7:37[SPEAKER_03]: We need to know his clothing and food that he's eating.
- 7:40[SPEAKER_03]: For John the Baptist?
- 7:41[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
- 7:42[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I'm guessing there's an important there like he ate of nature like he didn't hunt.
- 7:48[SPEAKER_01]: His food was locus and wild honey.
- 7:51[SPEAKER_03]: Like pre-vegetarian kind of thing, like... Or maybe it just describes his status in the world too.
- 8:02[SPEAKER_01]: People went out to him from Jerusalem and all Judea and the whole region of the Jordan, confessing their sins they were baptized by him in the Jordan River.
- 8:13[SPEAKER_03]: So, I do have to wonder here, because to me, to me, baptism is washing away your sins, right?
- 8:22[SPEAKER_03]: Like that's what I understand baptism to be.
- 8:24[SPEAKER_01]: But you only know that because that's what you heard, that's not like that.
- 8:27[SPEAKER_03]: No, no, no, I get that.
- 8:28[SPEAKER_03]: But like,
- 8:29[SPEAKER_03]: Jesus was just born, according to the New Testament, right?
- 8:33[SPEAKER_03]: And isn't the whole washing away of sins something that's like post Jesus or am I wrong about that?
- 8:38[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I have no idea when it started.
- 8:42[SPEAKER_03]: I just don't they didn't baptize that I was aware of in the old testament they fucking murdered animals.
- 8:47[SPEAKER_01]: No, that is true.
- 8:48[SPEAKER_03]: Right.
- 8:48[SPEAKER_03]: That is true.
- 8:49[SPEAKER_03]: They splattered the fucking blood on the walls.
- 8:51[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
- 8:51[SPEAKER_03]: And now we're talking about baptisms and baptisms.
- 8:54[SPEAKER_03]: And like where the fuck did baptizing come from?
- 8:57[SPEAKER_03]: And what is it?
- 8:58[SPEAKER_01]: No, that is true.
- 8:59[SPEAKER_01]: That is true.
- 9:00[SPEAKER_03]: At least they gave us like they told us which fucking direction to splattered the blood in in the old testament.
- 9:05[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know.
- 9:05[SPEAKER_03]: They were just like he's baptizing people.
- 9:07[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
- 9:07[SPEAKER_03]: And I'm like, what's a baptize?
- 9:09[SPEAKER_01]: What is a baptize?
- 9:10[SPEAKER_01]: No, it's so true.
- 9:11[SPEAKER_01]: I don't care for this.
- 9:13[SPEAKER_01]: This has too much on your supposed to already know and this is the kind of stuff that really gave me anxiety when I was a kid.
- 9:23[SPEAKER_01]: If I was on the bus and like, you know, the VBS bus.
- 9:27[SPEAKER_01]: There was a bus that came around my neighborhood when I lived in Arizona, and it would pick up kids to take them to VBS, and you've got bubblegum.
- 9:36[SPEAKER_03]: Is that, that's Bible study?
- 9:38[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
- 9:38[SPEAKER_03]: Oh vacation by vacation, I was okay.
- 9:40[SPEAKER_01]: Vacation Bible school.
- 9:41[SPEAKER_03]: Sorry, I didn't ever go to one of those things.
- 9:43[SPEAKER_01]: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, um, you got bubblegum if you answered right.
- 9:47[SPEAKER_03]: Hey, they do that now.
- 9:48[SPEAKER_03]: It's called life.
- 9:50[SPEAKER_03]: Why is there something like that?
- 9:52[SPEAKER_03]: I can't know what the fuck is, but they actually like take you out of the middle out of school Yeah, I have to give you candy.
- 9:58[SPEAKER_01]: You know, how old they legalize that.
- 10:00[SPEAKER_03]: That's a lot of states.
- 10:01[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but Ohio specifically is one that we know because sure that's what we live
- 10:08[SPEAKER_01]: But it would give me anxiety because everybody just knew and I'm like told you all the answers and they're like, it's in the Bible and so now I'm like 50 years old reading the Bible and I'm like, oh, guess what it's they didn't they didn't tell you in the Bible either.
- 10:22[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
- 10:23[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
- 10:23[SPEAKER_01]: Your mom told you that's how your mom told you and you know what your mom's a bitch.
- 10:31[SPEAKER_01]: But when he saw many of the Pharisees and Sadducees, oh, remember I was gonna do an episode about who all them sees.
- 10:38[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
- 10:39[SPEAKER_01]: Pharisee, Sadducee, Excellency, Muncee, Indiana.
- 10:48[SPEAKER_01]: Coming to where he was baptizing all them their season said she's coming to where he was baptizing He said to them You a brood of vipers who warned you to flee from the coming wrath Produced through and keeping with repentance and do not think you can say to yourselves We have Abraham as our father.
- 11:07[SPEAKER_01]: I tell you that out of these stones God can raise up children for Abraham
- 11:15[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
- 11:16[SPEAKER_01]: Um, okay.
- 11:17[SPEAKER_01]: There's more, but I got to stop there for a second.
- 11:19[SPEAKER_01]: That was a lot.
- 11:20[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
- 11:21[SPEAKER_01]: So he's like, fuck you Pharisees and sad you sees.
- 11:25[SPEAKER_01]: You suck your abrude of vipers.
- 11:28[SPEAKER_03]: Right.
- 11:29[SPEAKER_03]: So he doesn't like him.
- 11:30[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
- 11:31[SPEAKER_01]: So he's like, I hate you so much.
- 11:34[SPEAKER_01]: Um, produce fruit and keeping with repentance.
- 11:37[SPEAKER_01]: You all need to fucking repent.
- 11:39[SPEAKER_01]: Whatever you did, I hate you.
- 11:41[SPEAKER_03]: And don't be thinking that you're cool just because Abraham is your father because Abraham had a lot of kids and so Right, are you it basically are you doing the exact right things that I want you to do to be good with me Much like any sect of religion today.
- 12:01[SPEAKER_03]: Do you do our specific brand of Christianity?
- 12:04[SPEAKER_03]: No, we'll then fuck you
- 12:06[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so he's like, your Judaism isn't the right style.
- 12:10[SPEAKER_00]: And my belt is really cool.
- 12:12[SPEAKER_00]: I've seen my belt.
- 12:14[SPEAKER_00]: I do have a belt.
- 12:15[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not sure if I told you about it.
- 12:17[SPEAKER_00]: But it is one of the verses.
- 12:19[SPEAKER_03]: I got a camel belt and water dunking.
- 12:23[SPEAKER_00]: The axe.
- 12:25[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, I'm going to continue.
- 12:26[SPEAKER_00]: The axe is already at the root of the trees and every tree that does not produce good fruit will be cut down and thrown into the fire damn
- 12:38[SPEAKER_00]: So he's like, y'all are this close.
- 12:42[SPEAKER_00]: Do not push me.
- 12:43[SPEAKER_03]: You don't even get to next season.
- 12:44[SPEAKER_01]: I will turn this fucking bus around and I will give you that act.
- 12:49[SPEAKER_03]: What have you just didn't get enough water that year?
- 12:51[SPEAKER_03]: Like maybe you're gonna get more water next year.
- 12:53[SPEAKER_03]: No, he's gonna catch it down.
- 12:54[SPEAKER_01]: No, you're being silly.
- 12:55[SPEAKER_01]: I'm trying to translate it.
- 12:58[SPEAKER_01]: I'm trying to translate it.
- 13:00[SPEAKER_01]: He's saying, he's saying, I am this close, y'all are on thin fucking ice.
- 13:06[SPEAKER_01]: Y'all are pissing me the fuck off.
- 13:08[SPEAKER_01]: He's yelling, he's going off.
- 13:11[SPEAKER_01]: The axe is already at the root of the trees and every tree that does not produce good fruit will be cut down and thrown into the fire.
- 13:18[SPEAKER_01]: It sounds like he's saying, your kid's sock and a hate you still.
- 13:24[SPEAKER_02]: Sure.
- 13:24[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
- 13:26[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, yeah.
- 13:26[SPEAKER_01]: Like when he talks about trees, and I'll talk about actual fucking trees, he's talking about the people, the people, your progeny, like your kids, you're not producing good children.
- 13:37[SPEAKER_01]: You are being bad.
- 13:39[SPEAKER_01]: You are bad and your kids are bad and y'all suck so fucking much.
- 13:44[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
- 13:45[SPEAKER_01]: I just want to know, why do the Pharisees and Sadducey suck so much?
- 13:49[SPEAKER_01]: Like, what did they do besides not admire his belt?
- 13:54[SPEAKER_03]: I must say, it must have been pretty bad.
- 13:56[SPEAKER_03]: They probably shrimp or something.
- 13:59[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I just feel like there should have been some warning.
- 14:03[SPEAKER_01]: Like, this comes out of nowhere.
- 14:05[SPEAKER_01]: Like, we do not know these people, and I was supposed to hate them, too.
- 14:10[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know them.
- 14:11[SPEAKER_03]: I don't hate them.
- 14:12[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know anything about that.
- 14:13[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know anything.
- 14:13[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I'm gonna say it.
- 14:14[SPEAKER_01]: John sounds like real happy.
- 14:16[SPEAKER_03]: I've been given no reason, too, so.
- 14:18[SPEAKER_01]: I will say, John sounds like a real asshole.
- 14:21[SPEAKER_03]: He does sound a little judgmental.
- 14:23[SPEAKER_01]: He, he does not sound like a nice man.
- 14:25[SPEAKER_03]: Not so far.
- 14:26[SPEAKER_01]: Not so far.
- 14:27[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, look, for all I know, for all I know the Pharisees and the Sadducees are fucking pedophiles and he's calling them out, in which case, good on John, good on John, right?
- 14:38[SPEAKER_02]: Sure.
- 14:38[SPEAKER_01]: But also for all I know, he's like, y'all over their pet and cats and be a nice to,
- 14:48[SPEAKER_01]: Fish and snakes and turtles, and you know how wife loves baby elephants?
- 14:56[SPEAKER_01]: Fuck you for that, right?
- 14:58[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, the brawl, I know he's yelling at them because they like elephants.
- 15:02[SPEAKER_01]: I have no idea is what I'm saying.
- 15:05[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe their petophiles or maybe they love elephants.
- 15:08[SPEAKER_01]: It could go either way.
- 15:09[SPEAKER_03]: I have sure could.
- 15:11[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
- 15:12[SPEAKER_01]: I, John the Baptist, baptize you with water for repentance.
- 15:18[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, I need a dictionary, honestly, because like I don't specifically know what that means.
- 15:25[SPEAKER_01]: So, I mean, I bring what I have going from society in the 1990s through today, but I don't know from the Bible, like, what does it mean?
- 15:41[SPEAKER_03]: He's not explaining what this is.
- 15:43[SPEAKER_01]: This is not good.
- 15:44[SPEAKER_01]: This is not user friendly.
- 15:46[SPEAKER_03]: It's not good opener.
- 15:47[SPEAKER_01]: I don't love it.
- 15:48[SPEAKER_01]: But after me comes one who is more powerful than I who sandals, I'm not even worthy to carry.
- 15:55[SPEAKER_01]: He will baptize you with the Holy Spirit Empire.
- 16:00[SPEAKER_01]: So John's like, I do water, but this guy, he does fire.
- 16:03[SPEAKER_01]: He is fire.
- 16:05[SPEAKER_01]: He is Coachella all the way.
- 16:07[SPEAKER_01]: Me, I'm just like, not
- 16:14[SPEAKER_00]: even good enough to go to Coachella.
- 16:16[SPEAKER_00]: And he can perform at Coachella.
- 16:19[SPEAKER_03]: Sure.
- 16:20[SPEAKER_03]: No.
- 16:22[SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, I don't know either of you.
- 16:24[SPEAKER_00]: So okay.
- 16:26[SPEAKER_03]: But sounds a little like he's he's describing something to come and that should be fearful of this person even more than him.
- 16:32[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
- 16:33[SPEAKER_00]: He's like, y'all think I'm scary.
- 16:35[SPEAKER_00]: You should see the big one.
- 16:37[SPEAKER_03]: Right.
- 16:38[UNKNOWN]: Right.
- 16:38[SPEAKER_03]: which sounds like every fucker religion ever.
- 16:40[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
- 16:41[SPEAKER_03]: You think you think this is hardcore.
- 16:43[SPEAKER_03]: Just wait to see what's actually coming.
- 16:45[SPEAKER_03]: Fuckers.
- 16:46[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
- 16:47[SPEAKER_00]: It's the fuckers for me.
- 16:49[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
- 16:50[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
- 16:51[SPEAKER_00]: His winnowing, he's obviously describing some kind of Jesus, he guy I'm guessing.
- 16:56[SPEAKER_00]: Sure.
- 16:56[SPEAKER_00]: Sure.
- 16:57[SPEAKER_01]: So John continues, his winnowing fork is his hand and he will clear his thrashing floor.
- 17:06[SPEAKER_01]: I know about the thrashing floor.
- 17:08[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
- 17:08[SPEAKER_01]: Gathering his wheat into the barn and burning up the chaff with unquenchable fire.
- 17:16[SPEAKER_01]: They are always talking about separating the good wheat and the bad wheat.
- 17:27[SPEAKER_03]: Was he, uh, I don't know.
- 17:28[SPEAKER_01]: We haven't met him yet.
- 17:29[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, we did, but he was just a baby.
- 17:31[SPEAKER_03]: Right, but I mean, he's talking about he's going to bring the fire.
- 17:34[SPEAKER_03]: I'm like, did he bring the fire?
- 17:36[SPEAKER_03]: Did he bring the, did he bring the destruction that did he, did he, did he bring the weed on the threshing floor?
- 17:41[SPEAKER_03]: Did he, what, what do they do?
- 17:43[SPEAKER_01]: I wasn't there, so I don't know.
- 17:46[SPEAKER_03]: Right.
- 17:46[SPEAKER_03]: No, I know where was I. I don't know.
- 17:48[SPEAKER_01]: The whole thing sounds weird, though.
- 17:50[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not going to lie.
- 17:51[SPEAKER_01]: It sounds very.
- 17:53[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.
- 17:54[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not with this.
- 17:55[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, but we're almost done.
- 17:57[SPEAKER_01]: We just got a few more sentences here.
- 17:59[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, then Jesus came from Galilee to the Jordan to be baptized by John
- 18:06[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, so John's grown up and he's like there's somebody coming after me and he's gonna be epic Y'all just wait.
- 18:15[SPEAKER_01]: I'm the pre-show.
- 18:16[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
- 18:16[SPEAKER_01]: I'm the opener.
- 18:17[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
- 18:18[SPEAKER_03]: He's the big show Jesus is coming to John the abaptive.
- 18:21[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
- 18:22[SPEAKER_03]: Why does Jesus the son of God have to get baptized?
- 18:25[SPEAKER_01]: But John tried to deter him saying I need to be baptized by you and do you come to me?
- 18:33[SPEAKER_01]: So they're like, no, you baptized me, no, you baptized me, no, you, no, you, no, you, no, oh my god, they're so cute.
- 18:39[SPEAKER_03]: They're fighting their work, who's the holiest?
- 18:41[SPEAKER_01]: No, you're holiest, no, I'm holiest, no, you are, no, no, god likes you better, no god likes you better.
- 18:49[SPEAKER_01]: My felt is pretty snazzy.
- 18:53[SPEAKER_01]: Jesus replied.
- 18:55[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, his words are in red.
- 18:56[SPEAKER_01]: I forgot.
- 18:57[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, yeah, we had Jesus words.
- 18:59[SPEAKER_01]: We get Jesus words.
- 19:00[SPEAKER_01]: Shit.
- 19:00[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, listen to me.
- 19:01[SPEAKER_01]: I was always like really confused.
- 19:04[SPEAKER_03]: Right.
- 19:04[SPEAKER_01]: When okay.
- 19:05[SPEAKER_01]: Let me just tell you what.
- 19:06[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I didn't know what this meant either.
- 19:08[SPEAKER_01]: Let me tell you a thing.
- 19:09[SPEAKER_01]: So I saw that there was like red print and I was like, whoa, that's God words, right?
- 19:16[SPEAKER_01]: And then somebody corrected me and was like, no, just Jesus.
- 19:19[SPEAKER_01]: And I was like, whoa, Jesus God gets red.
- 19:24[SPEAKER_01]: And they're like, no, not Jesus, God, just Jesus.
- 19:26[SPEAKER_01]: And I was like,
- 19:28[SPEAKER_01]: But God is bigger than Jesus.
- 19:29[SPEAKER_01]: Why doesn't God get special like our his purple or blue or something?
- 19:34[SPEAKER_01]: Like literally it made sense.
- 19:36[SPEAKER_01]: That would have felt out a lot though in the old episode, right?
- 19:38[SPEAKER_01]: No, it really would have.
- 19:40[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it really would have.
- 19:40[SPEAKER_01]: We should have.
- 19:41[SPEAKER_01]: And they like they could not know just Jesus is red.
- 19:45[SPEAKER_01]: Jesus is words are red.
- 19:47[SPEAKER_01]: The end that's end I'm like.
- 19:49[SPEAKER_03]: But I don't understand why God is like, technically that I don't know that we ever actually heard the words of God because it would always through an interpreter, right?
- 20:00[SPEAKER_03]: Like you always heard it through a prophet or a dream or or something.
- 20:03[SPEAKER_01]: There was only a couple of times where they actually kind of but those couple of times they should have been a different color.
- 20:11[SPEAKER_01]: Green.
- 20:11[SPEAKER_01]: They should have.
- 20:11[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.
- 20:12[SPEAKER_02]: I agree.
- 20:13[SPEAKER_01]: Like, it has always really bothered me that Jesus gets a special color, but God doesn't, that doesn't make fucking sense, because they should make, they should make a new one and it's like a color that's, you know, represent a little God.
- 20:30[SPEAKER_01]: No, it's right like what color would God be the rainbow.
- 20:36[SPEAKER_01]: That would that would really freak out all the Christian right one of the have they have they have their have a rainbow.
- 20:42[SPEAKER_01]: They do it's the rainbow promise.
- 20:44[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
- 20:45[SPEAKER_01]: My dad used to carry around this bookmark.
- 20:48[SPEAKER_01]: This this whole reminded me, I forgot.
- 20:51[SPEAKER_01]: Um, so when I was in high school, um, my dad.
- 20:55[SPEAKER_01]: No,
- 20:56[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, he wasn't Christian yet.
- 20:58[SPEAKER_02]: When was this?
- 20:59[SPEAKER_01]: Well, no, seriously, I'm trying to think.
- 21:02[SPEAKER_01]: So, okay, so I would have been in my 20s then.
- 21:05[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, okay, okay, so I'm in my 20s and my dad is carrying around his Bible or whatever and it has a rainbow bookmark in it.
- 21:17[SPEAKER_01]: And I was like,
- 21:19[SPEAKER_01]: asking him about it because I was like, that doesn't track, I don't understand.
- 21:23[SPEAKER_01]: Like, I wasn't thinking about like the rainbow promise, right?
- 21:26[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
- 21:27[SPEAKER_01]: I was thinking, whoa, rainbow is gay and like, pride.
- 21:33[SPEAKER_01]: And like, LGBTQ, right?
- 21:36[SPEAKER_03]: Certainly, like, this was, because if you're in your 20s, that would have been very, very fringe.
- 21:41[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
- 21:41[SPEAKER_03]: Like, that would have been very fringe at that time.
- 21:43[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so I was like, that's gay.
- 21:47[SPEAKER_01]: Dad, it's cool with me, but why are you carrying around a gay,
- 21:54[SPEAKER_01]: That is weird, a gay symbol, holy moly, like you support Gainus.
- 22:00[SPEAKER_03]: Which by the way, we do.
- 22:02[SPEAKER_01]: We do.
- 22:03[SPEAKER_01]: Oh my god, totally, but it was a shock.
- 22:07[SPEAKER_01]: That's a time.
- 22:08[SPEAKER_03]: I was just making it clear to her.
- 22:09[SPEAKER_03]: Right, no, no, you're so right.
- 22:12[SPEAKER_03]: The way you're talking about it is me.
- 22:14[SPEAKER_01]: No, but in the nine, no, in my 20s, which went out, I'm trying to think.
- 22:23[SPEAKER_03]: We'll get there eventually.
- 22:24[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, no.
- 22:24[SPEAKER_01]: This would have been like weight 90s.
- 22:27[SPEAKER_01]: And I was in my 20s, okay?
- 22:29[SPEAKER_01]: And so wait, no, that can't be ready.
- 22:32[SPEAKER_01]: Hold on, hold on, hold on.
- 22:34[SPEAKER_01]: No, no.
- 22:35[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, because I graduated in 93.
- 22:37[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, this was late 90s.
- 22:40[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
- 22:41[SPEAKER_01]: So this was late 90s.
- 22:43[SPEAKER_01]: And so I was just learning about the queer community and like I didn't know yet that I was by like I had no understanding of things like I was so gen X. I was up my own ass.
- 23:00[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
- 23:01[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
- 23:02[SPEAKER_01]: for my dad at that time to be carrying a rainbow anything ever was shocking like why are you carrying a symbol of gay when you are being Christian and those I could not make them work in my head and he's like what are you even talking about?
- 23:23[SPEAKER_01]: This is and he's explaining all the rainbow
- 23:27[SPEAKER_01]: up to me.
- 23:28[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.
- 23:29[SPEAKER_01]: There's some amazewark, decorous rainbow.
- 23:33[SPEAKER_01]: Those are all the words I know.
- 23:35[SPEAKER_01]: Because I couldn't be bothered to remember that.
- 23:39[SPEAKER_01]: So he's like explaining all this and I'm like, Dad, do you not know like rainbows literally are used as a symbol?
- 23:48[SPEAKER_01]: Like, it may mean what you say it means, but it has been appropriated.
- 23:55[SPEAKER_01]: Is that the right word?
- 23:56[SPEAKER_01]: Like, I don't know, but we used that for gayness now.
- 24:00[SPEAKER_01]: Like pride is a thing.
- 24:02[SPEAKER_01]: And my dad was like, no, and I was like, nobody, yes.
- 24:06[SPEAKER_01]: And I was like, I'm not trying to argue with you.
- 24:08[SPEAKER_01]: I'm just letting you know that if other people say it, they may think that you are trying to say that you support gay rights, which I think is all ultra cool, so cool of you.
- 24:19[SPEAKER_01]: But I don't know if that's what you're actually trying to say.
- 24:22[SPEAKER_01]: And I remember arguing with my dad and my dad was like, no, that's not what it means.
- 24:26[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm like, I hear what you're saying.
- 24:28[SPEAKER_01]: And that's not what it means to you.
- 24:30[SPEAKER_01]: But I'm barely certain that other people might not know.
- 24:35[SPEAKER_01]: what you are saying.
- 24:37[SPEAKER_03]: Sure.
- 24:38[SPEAKER_01]: And yeah, I don't know where I was going with that.
- 24:42[SPEAKER_01]: Rainbows.
- 24:44[SPEAKER_03]: The half-due are going off track.
- 24:46[SPEAKER_01]: I was off track.
- 24:47[SPEAKER_03]: I was off track.
- 24:47[SPEAKER_03]: You're going away.
- 24:48[SPEAKER_01]: I was off track.
- 24:49[SPEAKER_01]: Because color, like, because God should have rainbow as his color, that's where I was going with that.
- 24:56[SPEAKER_01]: OK. OK, sorry.
- 24:58[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
- 24:59[SPEAKER_03]: We have to hear we get to hear Jesus's words.
- 25:01[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, Jesus.
- 25:02[SPEAKER_01]: Jesus said, let it be so now.
- 25:06[SPEAKER_01]: It is proper for us to do this to fulfill all righteousness.
- 25:11[SPEAKER_03]: What what be so now?
- 25:13[SPEAKER_01]: Who's they're going to baptize each other, maybe?
- 25:16[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.
- 25:17[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
- 25:18[SPEAKER_01]: Then John consented as soon as Jesus was baptized, he went up
- 25:28[SPEAKER_01]: At that moment, heaven was open and he saw the spirit of God descending like a dove and a lighting on him.
- 25:34[SPEAKER_01]: Wow, that escalated.
- 25:37[SPEAKER_03]: Often going to water and then see light come down for me from heaven.
- 25:39[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, that's weird.
- 25:41[SPEAKER_01]: There was a dove.
- 25:43[SPEAKER_03]: And like a dove.
- 25:44[SPEAKER_01]: Oh.
- 25:45[SPEAKER_01]: like a dove.
- 25:47[SPEAKER_01]: When dove's cry, was the dove crying?
- 25:50[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, if it was like a print song also.
- 25:53[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
- 25:54[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, that is a really good song.
- 25:56[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
- 25:57[SPEAKER_01]: Sorry, please don't go down.
- 25:58[SPEAKER_01]: No, nothing, nothing, nothing.
- 26:00[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
- 26:00[SPEAKER_01]: And a voice from have, oh, we get God works here.
- 26:03[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, see?
- 26:05[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
- 26:05[SPEAKER_01]: Why doesn't God get a color?
- 26:07[SPEAKER_03]: The God should have a color.
- 26:09[SPEAKER_01]: And a voice from heaven, some just weird voice, not very special at all, because it's not a different color or anything, said this is my son whom I love with him.
- 26:19[SPEAKER_01]: I am well pleased, and why doesn't God get a color?
- 26:25[SPEAKER_01]: That's very confusing to me.
- 26:27[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know.
- 26:30[SPEAKER_01]: It's almost like they think Jesus is more important than God.
- 26:38[SPEAKER_01]: look, I'm still trying to grasp the whole Jesus is the Son of God or Jesus is God on earth or Jesus is just one part of God or what the fuck ever.
- 26:51[SPEAKER_01]: But so like, but the big main thing, all of it, all of it goes together in God.
- 26:58[SPEAKER_01]: Why doesn't God get a special color of print?
- 27:01[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know.
- 27:02[SPEAKER_03]: But I do have one comment here because apparently we skipped all of Jesus' childhood and went straight to He's an adult back time by John the Baptist, is that where we just skipped everything in between.
- 27:14[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, listen, I don't know if we're going to skip around.
- 27:17[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if we don't get to know anything that happened in his childhood.
- 27:22[SPEAKER_03]: Right.
- 27:22[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if maybe that's in a different book of the Bible.
- 27:26[SPEAKER_03]: I want to read that one.
- 27:27[SPEAKER_03]: I don't read all about it.
- 27:28[SPEAKER_03]: No fucking idea.
- 27:28[SPEAKER_03]: Jesus is adolescents.
- 27:31[SPEAKER_01]: I think, from what I understand, I think that there's like a whole 30 years of his life that's missing, that we just don't get to know about.
- 27:39[SPEAKER_01]: That's just really, but I've never read it, so I don't fucking know.
- 27:42[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
- 27:43[SPEAKER_01]: That's just what I heard.
- 27:44[SPEAKER_03]: You would think, like this, this son of God just walking around, who apparently was, you know, going to be a carpenter, maybe from what I hear.
- 27:51[SPEAKER_03]: Maybe.
- 27:52[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
- 27:53[SPEAKER_03]: What have, you know, garnered some attention from people, mean, you know, God in
- 28:01[SPEAKER_01]: I, I don't want to understand.
- 28:02[SPEAKER_01]: I'm really confused about the baptism.
- 28:06[SPEAKER_03]: God of Jesus.
- 28:06[SPEAKER_01]: I'm really confused who John is.
- 28:09[SPEAKER_01]: I'm really confused.
- 28:10[SPEAKER_03]: You've got to baptize Jesus.
- 28:12[SPEAKER_01]: I'm really confused.
- 28:14[SPEAKER_01]: Why?
- 28:14[SPEAKER_01]: He baptized Jesus.
- 28:17[SPEAKER_01]: I'm really confused.
- 28:18[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
- 28:19[SPEAKER_03]: I don't quite understand that myself.
- 28:21[SPEAKER_03]: Like, if he's a son of God, why would you need it?
- 28:24[SPEAKER_03]: Wasn't he already like, I mean, he was born in a virgin birth.
- 28:29[SPEAKER_03]: Like, you would think that he comes out, you know, gotdish.
- 28:32[SPEAKER_01]: Perfect, the river.
- 28:34[SPEAKER_03]: Why would a human, John the Baptist, whoever the fuck he is?
- 28:38[SPEAKER_00]: See how to battle with John the Baptist.
- 28:40[SPEAKER_03]: Why does the light come down like a dove at that point and then God speaks to Jesus?
- 28:44[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, it's John!
- 28:46[SPEAKER_03]: I don't fucking know.
- 28:47[SPEAKER_00]: He's so confused!
- 28:49[SPEAKER_03]: He's a Baptist, you know?
- 28:51[SPEAKER_01]: What is a Baptist?
- 28:52[SPEAKER_03]: He's somebody who don't speak to people underwater.
- 28:55[SPEAKER_01]: Why?
- 28:56[SPEAKER_03]: Because it's fun?
- 28:57[SPEAKER_01]: That was never in the Old Testament.
- 29:00[SPEAKER_03]: Just imagine how much easier it would have been if they would have invented the dunk tank back then.
- 29:06[SPEAKER_01]: Did you ever sit on one of those?
- 29:07[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
- 29:08[SPEAKER_01]: Did you really?
- 29:09[SPEAKER_01]: Was it, like, a carnival at school or something?
- 29:11[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it was the, it was at the, um, pretzel festival.
- 29:15[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, that's fun.
- 29:16[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
- 29:17[SPEAKER_01]: The, um, the, what town is that?
- 29:20[SPEAKER_03]: It's a town that we lived in.
- 29:21[SPEAKER_01]: And we don't say it.
- 29:23[SPEAKER_03]: That on our podcast now.
- 29:28[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't know that.
- 29:29[SPEAKER_01]: I probably have said lots of towns that we're living in.
- 29:32[SPEAKER_03]: Probably have, yeah.
- 29:33[SPEAKER_01]: But not this time.
- 29:34[SPEAKER_03]: Right, not this time.
- 29:35[SPEAKER_03]: OK, yeah.
- 29:36[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know why.
- 29:36[SPEAKER_01]: Is it because John is a Baptist and we're worried about John the Baptist?
- 29:43[SPEAKER_03]: No, I'm not worried about John the Baptist.
- 29:46[SPEAKER_01]: OK, well, I'm still very confused as the who John is.
- 29:50[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
- 29:51[SPEAKER_01]: What is a Baptist?
- 29:53[SPEAKER_01]: What is this Duncan shit that they're doing?
- 29:55[SPEAKER_03]: Not Duncan donuts.
- 29:57[SPEAKER_01]: And why doesn't God get his own special color for his words?
- 30:02[SPEAKER_01]: Why is Jesus' words more important than God?
- 30:05[SPEAKER_03]: And where was the last 30 years?
- 30:09[SPEAKER_01]: And we're only, that was chapter three.
- 30:11[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
- 30:13[SPEAKER_01]: I have, I have so many questions.
- 30:17[SPEAKER_01]: I'm sorry, this, look, I was led to believe that this was gonna clear things up for me.
- 30:27[SPEAKER_01]: I'm so confused.
- 30:29[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
- 30:30[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
- 30:31[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't find Jesus today.
- 30:32[SPEAKER_03]: Not the rest of the Bible has been very clear.
- 30:34[SPEAKER_01]: Nobody like it made sense.
- 30:36[SPEAKER_01]: It was like these people did some shit.
- 30:39[SPEAKER_01]: These people, then they did some other shit.
- 30:42[SPEAKER_01]: These people, they were Jewish and so they kept doing Jewish things and they believed Jewish stuff and here's their Jewish history.
- 30:50[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm like, okay, yeah, that makes sense.
- 30:54[SPEAKER_03]: And so far as looked at me to be fair, we're only three chapters in.
- 30:57[SPEAKER_03]: There's more more to come.
- 31:00[SPEAKER_03]: We've definitely said that we were confused at other points in the Bible.
- 31:04[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
- 31:05[SPEAKER_03]: I think it's cleared up a little bit as we went on.
- 31:07[SPEAKER_01]: All right.
- 31:08[SPEAKER_01]: It's a possibility.
- 31:09[SPEAKER_01]: I guess because the New Testament is supposed to be where it's at, I expected I'd just be able to walk right in and be like, Okay.
- 31:18[SPEAKER_01]: Here it is.
- 31:18[SPEAKER_01]: Here's what's happening.
- 31:19[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
- 31:21[SPEAKER_01]: And that is not.
- 31:22[SPEAKER_03]: So definitely not happening.
- 31:24[SPEAKER_01]: And who the fuck is John?
- 31:26[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know.
- 31:27[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
- 31:28[SPEAKER_03]: and why does Jesus need to be baptized by him?
- 31:30[SPEAKER_03]: But okay, that's what happened.
- 31:33[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
- 31:33[SPEAKER_03]: I mean according to this.
- 31:35[SPEAKER_01]: I don't love it.
- 31:38[SPEAKER_03]: Sure.
- 31:39[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, yeah.
- 31:40[SPEAKER_01]: That's all I'm saying.
- 31:41[SPEAKER_01]: I just, I don't love it.
- 31:45[SPEAKER_03]: All right, that was Matthew chapter three.
- 31:48[SPEAKER_01]: Maddie boy.
- 31:49[SPEAKER_03]: Which means that we'll be back next time with Little Maddie chapter four.
- 31:54[SPEAKER_03]: We'll see you then.
- 31:56[SPEAKER_01]: May.