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EP: 121 Men of color in America Part 2 · Humanity Unplugged Podcast

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[SPEAKER_02]: Hello, hello, welcome, everyone.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Welcome to the show.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Welcome to the podcast.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm your host, Germaine McCrimon.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Welcome to Humanity Unplug Podcast.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And we'd like to thank you guys for being here, stopping by one more time.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And again, we'd like to give honor to the most high who provides us with the wisdom and knowledge,
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[SPEAKER_02]: it's very important for us to understand what we need to be doing so that way we stay in conjunction in God's favor.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We thank you guys for doing what you do on all the shorts and all the videos.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Um, today is Tuesday, it's about 330 in the afternoon.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And yes, I'm getting on to give you guys that information.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, we have a great outpouring on the last episode, men of color in America.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So we're going to continue to give you the men of color in America, part two and bringing you guys this was a little difficult.
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[SPEAKER_02]: First, I want to give a shout out to all my hardcore listeners.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Day ones, you know, the one and done ham wrapped it up with some cheese, didn't have no bread.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We just took it down like that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: God bless you.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We really appreciate you guys for being around and sticking with us through all our tough times.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Um, in this episode, guys, I don't like doing videos, and I really appreciate the love I receive when I do talk, and I'm going to talk a little bit today.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I might play a video, no more one about three to four minutes, but it's so intriguing the video on why men of color in America.
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[SPEAKER_02]: uh, doesn't finish college or just been a color in America period, what's going on with us.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And a lot of times we need to get to the beginning of what really took place.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So in this episode, I'm going to definitely go back and I have to go back and it's not that I want to and to keep reissuing or keep going over something that people have said
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[SPEAKER_02]: 40 years, 50 years, but the impact that it took, and we're still trying to recover from that mighty mighty impact.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And we got to understand that this happened for a long period of time.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And sometimes we don't realize that you don't change history in a couple of decades.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You can't do it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And we're going to do some things and let you understand where we at.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So for all my people, all over the world, you crane the United Kingdom, India, Russia, everyone in the United States, we salute you and we thank you guys for your support.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Again, I'm your host, your main equipment.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Welcome to the show.
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[SPEAKER_02]: This is a many unplugged podcast, episode 121.
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[SPEAKER_02]: First off, we'd like to say thank you.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Because I think everyone's journey is already written in stone.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Men of color, our journey is written already of what we had to go through and what we have to continue to go through to get to where we need to go.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I want you to understand that when slavery came out in the early 1500s, we were already striving.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Men of color were already striving.
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[SPEAKER_02]: with no real existence underneath anybody.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I need to make that real clear.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We were already striving, we were already in our own habitat taking care of our family.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We were shipped and brought over.
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[SPEAKER_02]: to build someone else's, someone else's land at that particular time.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And some of you going to tell me, oh, you wrong.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We were here, put it in the comments.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't care.
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[SPEAKER_02]: This is my perspective.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I could be wrong through your research.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But clearly it tells you we were shipped over.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's clearly documented that we came over by ships.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Clearly.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So I'm not lying.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But if you think I am whatever.
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[SPEAKER_02]: do your research.
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[SPEAKER_02]: This is all my information of what I believe, what I feel, and my research.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We were brought over.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We were sold.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We were hung.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We were executed.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We were murdered.
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[SPEAKER_02]: sleeping with our wives, selling our kids, putting them in the fields, just monarchy at its best.
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[SPEAKER_02]: People still being hung to this day.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So I want you to understand that depression, that impact mentally on men, you know, a woman being forced to see her man ripped apart by a horse.
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[SPEAKER_02]: some bearable feeding our kids and our ancestors out of hog troughs, these these these hollowed out wooden troughs that they feed the hogs out of.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They fed human beings from it, putting us on fire and casherating us and cutting off all genitals as men and telling our women that they could never depend on us.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It does a psychological effect on generation after generation after generation and I want you to understand or try to imagine that yes we have passed that area and yes we're not into that exactly now, but it that which has happened has caused.
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[SPEAKER_02]: a domino effect in our community, in the black man and what he needs to be doing, his fear on succeeding.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I want you to understand that in those days, other nationalities will be in talk to be businessman to support their family by having their own business, to support their
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[SPEAKER_02]: At that time, we were the land of Liverpool.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You broke our backs to get your millions of dollars.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You killed, and you raped, and you did what you did to get what you wanted, often the backs of the men of color.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So we wasn't taught that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The most of the people that were in slavery couldn't read, write, and go through on many things.
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[SPEAKER_02]: There were a few.
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[SPEAKER_02]: there were some people that could provide and do things and teach the slave master's families how to read, write, and mathematics.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Those were the basic things that some people of color
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[SPEAKER_02]: math that wasn't it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So in that time to have land and that time to have any type of structure in the house, it was unheard of.
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[SPEAKER_02]: People go back in time and they talk about so food and things of such.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We were given the mirror scraps.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's why you say pick feed and you say chitlins
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[SPEAKER_02]: uh, they used to call it cry.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think it's try, try the, the stomach of either the hog or the cow.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think it's the cow and the tail of the cow.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, we didn't get the pieces of the animal that was for consumption.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We got the things that they thought, the door way, and we made something out of it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The pig ears are the pig tongue.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We, we, we did things to make
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[SPEAKER_02]: some type of delicacy to feed and nurture our family.
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[SPEAKER_02]: When things got bad, we made other items out of it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And this is how we progressed over time.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We was able to take things that people threw away and we made out of clothing and we made an outfit out of it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not here to give you a history lesson, a history lesson,
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[SPEAKER_02]: Get your mind in the understanding mode of what to place and how you can't change 400 years of slavery in five decades.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm sorry you just can't do it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: were under a great depression, psychologically, and our communities, it was rough.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Coming out of that, remember, we got the chance to vote.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We weren't even able to vote.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Everything takes time.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Women didn't got they right to vote.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Remember, bathrooms were separated.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We didn't have anything we had to earn everything and now as we fast forward, we have so many distractions to help compensate or to help further push us back behind by dropping
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[SPEAKER_02]: put in the alcohols, all near the schools, the liquor stores, near the schools, pushing drugs in our community and liquor in our community to try to entice our future, to go astray.
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[SPEAKER_02]: This is what happens in the communities where men of color are.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So when we look at,
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[SPEAKER_02]: The bigger picture on why men of color are struggling in college or completing disc goals for further back than you can imagine.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And now is being statistically proven in the 2000s decade that men of color are dropping numbers in college or successfully entrepreneurship.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Remember, for us to own our own, we have to be taught the game of being an entrepreneur, ownership, having your own business, that's not what was taught to children.
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[SPEAKER_02]: and 1974 and 1968 and 63 and 62, 50s, they weren't given black kids books to read.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They were giving them guns.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They were giving them toys to play.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They wasn't at my mom and pop store selling candy or showing them how to be an entrepreneur a build of family generational wealth.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That wasn't being taught to young black men and women in 1950s and 40s.
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[SPEAKER_02]: No, that wasn't being taught.
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[SPEAKER_02]: because half of the parents back then couldn't read.
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[SPEAKER_02]: When you look statistically into what to place over time, was just catching up, it's no excuse.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not saying, blame that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: No, I'm not saying that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Don't get me misinterpreted.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not saying that at all.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm just telling you about the facts that need to be accounted for.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's not like
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[SPEAKER_02]: Every generation or every nationality went through four million black people being executed.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's what really happened.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Four to four point five million blacks were killed doing slavery.
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[SPEAKER_02]: In four hundred years of it, this didn't happen two years, three years.
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[SPEAKER_02]: This happened for four hundred years.
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[SPEAKER_02]: This is nothing that I'm making up.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not assuming that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not guessing the numbers.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They got pictures of black men and woman being hung from trees and people are standing in front, laughing.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Kids are smiling.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The word, some of the antics in some of the things we celebrate in America, like Bob and Q.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Do you really know what that stands for?
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[SPEAKER_02]: There's so many different things that we have not opened our eyes to see and understand how it's still impacting our community.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I had to do the part to just to get you guys more informed on a lot of the things that's going on.
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[SPEAKER_02]: One of our great civil right leaders passed Reverend Jesse Jackson.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He passed.
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[SPEAKER_02]: There was no real media coverage on it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That should have been a two day, three day event on all news.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But it wasn't.
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[SPEAKER_02]: This man brought together people, not just people of color, people.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And it was overlooked.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So I want you to know, and I want you to understand that when you raise a child in the 50s and 40s and they don't have the know how.
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[SPEAKER_02]: When they grow up, they're going to repeat the feature of what was taught to them.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They're not giving their kids a book.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They're not taking their kids to work with them.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They show them how to be on to manure.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Raise, they have a business, have land, eat off the land.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Back in those days, you ashamed upon to work on the farm.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Do you know how many kids that are 20 to 30?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Don't know what a hammer look like?
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[SPEAKER_02]: No, I don't put a hammer to a nail and bang it into a wood.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'll pick up a drill and know what a drill bit is.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'll know what a snake is and I'm not talking about animal or organ.
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[SPEAKER_02]: A screwdriver, I fill up head, a four-way.
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[SPEAKER_02]: A level, a spatula.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They don't know.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They have no clue.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's because it wasn't taught to them.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So with so many people, 80s babies, 90 babies, that were having kids whenever kids.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So didn't teach their children anything.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So generational wealth was never taught.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It was never impacted in our communities.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And even when it was, it was on negative value as a drug dealer.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Showing love in the community as a drug dealer.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Putting their cousin on to sell drugs illegally.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That was a closest of generational wealth was being pushed in all of them.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Let's be real.
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[SPEAKER_02]: This was not what they thought.
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[SPEAKER_02]: When Nixon allowed drugs, allegedly, to be pushed in all, I mean, all over the A.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It was to set us back.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Hello somebody.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It took people out.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It destroyed communities.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They created projects to try to say they'd given back.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But all they did was create a funnel of chaos to stay right in that area.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Because of course, since you don't have to pay no electric,
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[SPEAKER_02]: Instead of investing, you lived there.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So what it got wrote you's, who cares the elevated it got pissing it?
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[SPEAKER_02]: No one cares, just get upstairs.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The heatwork, hot water was there.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And you may do.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We have to understand that this took place for over 400 years, and it doesn't change in a hundred years.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Not that fast.
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[SPEAKER_02]: What I'm gonna give you for the last seven minutes, and maybe it won't be for seven, but I'm gonna play a little bit of it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: What's going on now?
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I thank you guys for listening.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not gonna hold you too long.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But here we go.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Now to our second story, about who is going to college?
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[SPEAKER_05]: Enrollment among young Americans has been declining over the past decade that decrease mostly driven by fewer young men pursuing degrees.
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[SPEAKER_05]: A few research study finds there's about 1 million fewer young men now enrolled in college as compared to 2011.
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[SPEAKER_05]: We took a closer look at why.
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[SPEAKER_05]: That's the second part of our focus tonight on rethinking college.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Tomorrow morning in Brentwood, New York, Jordi Velasquez will graduate high school, but like a growing number of young men, college isn't in his immediate plan.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I started looking at his college a little too late and I couldn't decide on what I wanted to do.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I didn't know where I would get the money from and I just think it'd be better if I started working immediately.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So I want you to know that is where it all begins right there.
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[SPEAKER_02]: As young black men, we don't, as young men, period.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You don't know what you want to do.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And you don't want to spend money in college in something.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You don't even know if you want to do that in five years.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So of course, people say just take liberal arts or whatever, whatever.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But who's to say you want to go into that period?
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[SPEAKER_02]: This young man has a different situation.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Listen up.
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[SPEAKER_05]: raised by a single mother who also cares for his disabled brother.
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[SPEAKER_05]: The last quest says he plans to become a certified HFAC technician.
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[SPEAKER_05]: He hasn't ruled out going to college one day, but says it simply doesn't make sense right now.
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[SPEAKER_02]: An HVAC technician is a great job.
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[SPEAKER_02]: College is not for everyone, but picking up a skill set that could provide for your family and make you essential in the community or in a business aspect is a
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[SPEAKER_03]: The fact that I have to pay, even though I don't know what I want to do, and that I might not even get a job in the field that I want.
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[SPEAKER_05]: He's not alone.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Last year, among high school graduates in the US, only 57% of men have enrolled in college.
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[SPEAKER_05]: That's compared to 65% of women.
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[SPEAKER_05]: It's a trend that dates back nearly three decades.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Every year since 1996, women have entered college at higher rates than men.
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[SPEAKER_04]: The education system has a whole, doesn't seem to be working quite as well for boys as it is for girls.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Richard Reeves is the author of Boys and Men.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Why the most?
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[SPEAKER_02]: I really don't agree with Richard Reeves a little bit, but I'm a lot of them play.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Modern Mail is struggling, why it matters and what to do about it.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Men are falling behind in education.
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[SPEAKER_05]: The education gap is bigger now than it was back in 1972 and Title IX passed.
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[SPEAKER_05]: What it counts for that.
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[SPEAKER_04]: The main reason for that is through the education system goes around performing boys.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So you can see it from the beginning from kindergarten all the way through high school.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And so if you look at, for example, high school GPA, which is a very good measure of success.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You must give your kids the tools at a young age for them to be successful at an older age.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You don't give them the tools to start off if they will never get these tools.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It is a proven fact.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Stop giving our kids guns and videos to watch when they're little, give them a book, make them right, make them read when they're little.
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[SPEAKER_04]: take the top 10% of high school students, two thirds of them are girls.
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[SPEAKER_04]: That obviously affects what's gonna happen in the college system too.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Today, men make up only 42% of undergraduate students, and for young men of color, the gap is especially alarming.
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[SPEAKER_05]: There are now 50,000 fewer black men enrolled in college compared to pre-pandemic levels.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think that college is becoming a self-self for a lot of men.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Not necessarily because college isn't a compelling idea, but rather because there are so many other competing factors that might be equally if not more so desirable.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Rotterah Carey is an assistant professor at the University of Delaware.
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[SPEAKER_05]: He studies how black and Latino adolescent boys experience school.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Carey says for the young men he works with, problems often begin long before college.
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[SPEAKER_01]: black and Latino boys grew up in a society that stereotypes them as non-academic, as socially threatening.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And many of those types of stereotypes have shaped how their educators engage with them in schools.
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[SPEAKER_05]: More women than men now have college degrees according to US census data, and they're more likely to graduate within four years compared to men.
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[SPEAKER_05]: It's led some colleges to target male students as a group in need of extra support.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We're not pretending the problem doesn't exist.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We're trying to address it head on.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Jonathan Copel is president of Montclair State University.
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[SPEAKER_05]: How do you craft a program that works?
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[SPEAKER_05]: Listen up to this guy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That doesn't come at the expense of women.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I don't think that this is a matter of either or.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I don't think this is a matter of
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[SPEAKER_00]: putting the needs of female students second.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think it's a matter of asking the basic question, why do we see differential graduation rates when we sort by gender and race?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's where you really start to see this gap widened.
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[SPEAKER_05]: More than half of Montclair State students come from underrepresented groups and men make up just 40% of total enrollment.
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[SPEAKER_05]: So what are some of the consequences if more young men choose not to go to college?
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[SPEAKER_00]: There's so many consequences.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think that means everybody should get a four-year degree.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think colleges for everyone.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But if you look at the data, the data says in terms of income in terms of health in terms of happiness in terms of life satisfaction, your odds are better with a four-year degree.
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[SPEAKER_05]: In 2022, Montclair State launched what's known as the male enrollment in graduation alliance, a task force that's now developing programs that aim to recruit and retain more men.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Danny Jean, the university's assistant provost for special programs, helps lead the initiative.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Last spring, he welcomed 300 high schoolers from nearby cities in New Jersey.
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[SPEAKER_05]: For many, it was their first time on a college campus.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Please give all of them around the applause.
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[SPEAKER_05]: For Jean, who grew up in inner city, Newark, and later earned a PhD, it was a chance to share his own story.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to tell you guys, man, I hate to stop it, but I have to, I really enjoy.
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[SPEAKER_02]: watching and listening to stories like this.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We at the point where I have to let you guys go if you guys want to part three please let me know we continue this conversation.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We love all of you all of you guys we thank you guys for stopping by one more time and again and I didn't say this at the beginning but you should have your shoes off and your feet.
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[SPEAKER_02]: laid up drinking something cold and refreshing or something hot tidy or whatever you like.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm your host, your main equipment from Manatee on Plug.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And this is an ongoing issue.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We can only accept you got to start them up young.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Put the time in when they young and they will not go to stray.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They will find
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[SPEAKER_02]: God bless everyone.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Peace.