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- 0:00Foreign.
- 0:06Welcome
- 0:06back,
- 0:07my
- 0:07friends,
- 0:07to
- 0:07another
- 0:08great
- 0:09episode
- 0:09of
- 0:10Pearls
- 0:10and
- 0:11Prep
- 0:11npz.
- 0:12Here,
- 0:12your
- 0:13preceptor
- 0:13in
- 0:14your
- 0:14pocket.
- 0:14We're
- 0:15going
- 0:15to
- 0:15keep
- 0:15you
- 0:15fresh,
- 0:16we're
- 0:16going
- 0:16to
- 0:16keep
- 0:17you
- 0:17prepped
- 0:17for
- 0:18practice
- 0:18today
- 0:19and
- 0:19we're
- 0:19going
- 0:20to
- 0:20go
- 0:20over
- 0:20a
- 0:20case
- 0:20study
- 0:21that
- 0:22I
- 0:22think
- 0:22is
- 0:22super
- 0:23high
- 0:23yield
- 0:23and
- 0:24gets
- 0:24right
- 0:24to
- 0:25the
- 0:25point.
- 0:25Today
- 0:26we
- 0:26have
- 0:27a
- 0:2749
- 0:27year
- 0:28old
- 0:28mock
- 0:28patient.
- 0:29We'll
- 0:29call
- 0:29him
- 0:29Dale.
- 0:30He
- 0:31presents
- 0:31in
- 0:32the
- 0:32emergency
- 0:32room
- 0:33with
- 0:33altered
- 0:34mental
- 0:34status,
- 0:35muscle
- 0:35rigidity
- 0:36and
- 0:36hyperthermia.
- 0:38He
- 0:38recently
- 0:39increased
- 0:40his
- 0:40Zoloft
- 0:41to
- 0:41a
- 0:41hundred
- 0:42milligrams
- 0:43a
- 0:43day
- 0:44and
- 0:44he
- 0:45has
- 0:45some
- 0:45depression.
- 0:46And
- 0:47recently
- 0:47he's
- 0:48also
- 0:48been
- 0:48dealing
- 0:49with
- 0:49some
- 0:49chronic
- 0:50pain
- 0:50medication
- 0:50changes.
- 0:51And
- 0:52his
- 0:52a
- 0:53Prescriber
- 0:53added
- 0:54tramadol,
- 0:5450
- 0:55milligrams
- 0:55twice
- 0:56daily
- 0:56in
- 0:57the
- 0:57past
- 0:5724
- 0:58hours.
- 0:58His
- 0:58family
- 0:59has
- 0:59noticed
- 1:00he's
- 1:00been
- 1:00a
- 1:00little
- 1:00confused
- 1:01and
- 1:01sweating
- 1:02a
- 1:02lot
- 1:02and
- 1:02had
- 1:02some
- 1:03tremors.
- 1:03On
- 1:04examination
- 1:05you
- 1:05notice
- 1:05he
- 1:06has
- 1:06a
- 1:06temperature
- 1:06of
- 1:06102.6.
- 1:08His
- 1:08heart
- 1:08rate
- 1:08is
- 1:08118.
- 1:09His
- 1:10blood
- 1:10pressure
- 1:10is
- 1:10158
- 1:11over
- 1:1194
- 1:12and
- 1:12his
- 1:12respiratory
- 1:12rate
- 1:13is
- 1:1324.
- 1:14He's
- 1:14pretty
- 1:14agitated.
- 1:15He's
- 1:15a
- 1:15little
- 1:16bit
- 1:16disoriented.
- 1:17You
- 1:17do
- 1:18a
- 1:18neuromuscular
- 1:19examination
- 1:20and
- 1:20you
- 1:20notice
- 1:20that
- 1:21there's.
- 1:21The
- 1:21patient
- 1:21demonstrates
- 1:22spontaneous
- 1:23clonus
- 1:23in
- 1:24his
- 1:24lower
- 1:25extremities.
- 1:26Hyperreflexia.
- 1:27And
- 1:28you
- 1:28see
- 1:28again
- 1:28that
- 1:29he's
- 1:29sweating
- 1:29profusely.
- 1:30He's
- 1:30markedly
- 1:31diaphoretic.
- 1:32Okay,
- 1:33so
- 1:34what's
- 1:34going
- 1:34on
- 1:35here?
- 1:35What
- 1:35are
- 1:35you
- 1:36thinking?
- 1:36If
- 1:36you
- 1:37wanted
- 1:37to
- 1:37debate
- 1:38this
- 1:38with
- 1:38your
- 1:39classmates
- 1:40and
- 1:41figure
- 1:41out
- 1:41what's
- 1:41going
- 1:41on,
- 1:42you
- 1:42have
- 1:42some
- 1:42information
- 1:43here.
- 1:43You
- 1:43have
- 1:43a
- 1:43couple
- 1:44medications
- 1:45that
- 1:45you
- 1:45can
- 1:45mull
- 1:46over
- 1:46and
- 1:46you
- 1:46have
- 1:47a,
- 1:47A,
- 1:47a
- 1:47very
- 1:47physical
- 1:48response
- 1:49here,
- 1:49right?
- 1:49This
- 1:49seems
- 1:50to
- 1:50be
- 1:50a
- 1:51textbook
- 1:52presentation
- 1:52of
- 1:53something
- 1:53very
- 1:54specific.
- 1:55Right?
- 1:55You
- 1:55have
- 1:55altered
- 1:56mental
- 1:56status,
- 1:57hyperreflexia.
- 1:58You
- 1:58have
- 1:58spontaneous
- 1:59clonus.
- 2:00So
- 2:00something's
- 2:01going
- 2:01on
- 2:01here.
- 2:02The
- 2:02vital
- 2:02signs
- 2:03are
- 2:03definitely
- 2:05out
- 2:05of
- 2:05whack.
- 2:05We
- 2:06have
- 2:06elevated
- 2:06vital
- 2:07signs
- 2:07across
- 2:07the
- 2:08board.
- 2:09And
- 2:09of
- 2:09all
- 2:09the
- 2:10medication
- 2:10we
- 2:11see,
- 2:11Zoloft
- 2:12has
- 2:12been
- 2:12increased.
- 2:12And
- 2:12we
- 2:12also
- 2:13have
- 2:13tramadol
- 2:14on
- 2:14board
- 2:15to
- 2:15keep
- 2:15things
- 2:16easier
- 2:16for
- 2:17NP
- 2:17students
- 2:18out
- 2:18there.
- 2:19If
- 2:19you're
- 2:19new
- 2:19to
- 2:19this
- 2:20lingo
- 2:20and
- 2:21these
- 2:21case
- 2:21studies
- 2:22and
- 2:23you're.
- 2:23It's
- 2:23all
- 2:24one
- 2:24blur
- 2:24to
- 2:24you
- 2:24and
- 2:24you're
- 2:25not
- 2:25sure
- 2:25the
- 2:25difference
- 2:25between
- 2:26serotonin
- 2:26syndrome
- 2:27and
- 2:27NMS
- 2:28or
- 2:28neuroleptic
- 2:29malignant
- 2:29syndrome,
- 2:31remember
- 2:31that
- 2:31with
- 2:31NMS
- 2:32we're
- 2:32talking
- 2:32antipsychotics.
- 2:34With
- 2:34serotonin
- 2:35syndrome,
- 2:35we're
- 2:35talking
- 2:35about
- 2:36serotonin.
- 2:37Okay?
- 2:38And
- 2:38so
- 2:39the
- 2:39clue
- 2:40is
- 2:40right.
- 2:41In
- 2:41the
- 2:41case
- 2:41study,
- 2:42it's
- 2:42not
- 2:42a
- 2:42trick
- 2:43question.
- 2:43Nobody's
- 2:44out
- 2:44to
- 2:44trick
- 2:45you.
- 2:45This
- 2:46is
- 2:46bread
- 2:47and
- 2:47butter.
- 2:47Serotonin
- 2:48syndrome.
- 2:49The
- 2:49elevated
- 2:49vital
- 2:50signs,
- 2:50the
- 2:50altered
- 2:51mental
- 2:51status,
- 2:51the
- 2:52muscle
- 2:52rigidity,
- 2:53diaphoresis,
- 2:54and
- 2:55so
- 2:55it's
- 2:56all
- 2:56right
- 2:56in
- 2:57front
- 2:57of
- 2:57you.
- 2:57And
- 2:57for
- 2:57serotonin
- 2:58syndrome,
- 2:59my
- 2:59friends,
- 2:59it's
- 3:00a
- 3:00very
- 3:00clinical
- 3:01diagnosis.
- 3:01It's
- 3:01not
- 3:02like
- 3:02you
- 3:02get
- 3:02a
- 3:02serum
- 3:03serotonin
- 3:04and
- 3:04you
- 3:04say,
- 3:04oh,
- 3:04my
- 3:04God,
- 3:05there's
- 3:05so
- 3:05much
- 3:05serotonin
- 3:06in
- 3:06the
- 3:06system.
- 3:07We
- 3:07have
- 3:07serotonin
- 3:08syndrome.
- 3:08It's
- 3:08not
- 3:08like
- 3:08that.
- 3:09It's
- 3:09a
- 3:09very
- 3:09clinical
- 3:10diagnosis.
- 3:11So
- 3:11you're
- 3:11looking
- 3:11for
- 3:11clusters
- 3:12of
- 3:13symptoms
- 3:13that
- 3:14are
- 3:14very
- 3:14specific
- 3:15and
- 3:15follow
- 3:16the
- 3:17increase
- 3:18or
- 3:19initiation
- 3:20or
- 3:20a
- 3:20combination
- 3:21of
- 3:21serotonergic
- 3:22agents.
- 3:22Right.
- 3:22It's
- 3:23almost
- 3:23always
- 3:23that
- 3:23case
- 3:24where
- 3:24there's
- 3:24a
- 3:24serotonergic
- 3:25agent
- 3:25that
- 3:26was
- 3:26just
- 3:26added,
- 3:26it's
- 3:26increased
- 3:27or
- 3:27combined
- 3:28with
- 3:28another
- 3:29serotonergic
- 3:30agent.
- 3:30This
- 3:31develops
- 3:31within
- 3:32hours.
- 3:32This
- 3:33is
- 3:33a
- 3:33very
- 3:33quick
- 3:34manifestation.
- 3:35And
- 3:35that
- 3:35also
- 3:36separates
- 3:36it
- 3:36from
- 3:37the
- 3:37other
- 3:38big
- 3:38scary
- 3:39syndromes,
- 3:39like
- 3:39neuroleptic
- 3:40malignant
- 3:41syndrome,
- 3:41which
- 3:42is
- 3:42different.
- 3:42It's
- 3:43days
- 3:43or
- 3:43weeks.
- 3:44With
- 3:44serotonin
- 3:45syndrome,
- 3:45we're
- 3:45talking
- 3:45about
- 3:46hours
- 3:46within
- 3:47hours
- 3:47of
- 3:47drug
- 3:48initiation,
- 3:48dose
- 3:49increase,
- 3:49or
- 3:49adding
- 3:50a
- 3:50second
- 3:50serotonergic
- 3:51agent.
- 3:52So
- 3:53again,
- 3:53here
- 3:53we
- 3:53have
- 3:54Tramadol.
- 3:54It
- 3:54is
- 3:54certainly
- 3:55capable
- 3:56of
- 3:57increasing
- 3:57the
- 3:57amount
- 3:57of
- 3:58serotonin
- 3:58in
- 3:58the
- 3:58synapse,
- 3:59releasing
- 4:00more
- 4:00serotonin.
- 4:01It's
- 4:01an
- 4:01offender.
- 4:02It's
- 4:02a
- 4:02usual
- 4:02offender.
- 4:03It's
- 4:03for
- 4:03pain.
- 4:04Not
- 4:04every
- 4:04patient
- 4:05is
- 4:05going
- 4:05to
- 4:05know
- 4:06that.
- 4:06You
- 4:07know,
- 4:07here
- 4:07they
- 4:07are
- 4:07on
- 4:07Zoloft,
- 4:08and
- 4:08weeks
- 4:09later
- 4:09they're
- 4:10dealing
- 4:10with
- 4:10chronic
- 4:11pain.
- 4:11The
- 4:11two
- 4:11medications
- 4:12feel
- 4:13different,
- 4:13sound
- 4:14different,
- 4:14look
- 4:14different.
- 4:15And
- 4:15there's
- 4:15no
- 4:15obvious
- 4:16reason
- 4:17that
- 4:17that
- 4:17patient
- 4:18or
- 4:18a
- 4:18provider
- 4:19who's
- 4:19not
- 4:19paying
- 4:19attention
- 4:20would
- 4:20think
- 4:21that
- 4:21there's
- 4:21any
- 4:21problem
- 4:22with
- 4:22that.
- 4:22And
- 4:23lo
- 4:23and
- 4:23behold,
- 4:24tramadol
- 4:24and
- 4:25Zoloft
- 4:26can
- 4:26certainly
- 4:27wreak
- 4:27havoc
- 4:27and
- 4:28manifest
- 4:28into
- 4:28these
- 4:29symptoms.
- 4:30So
- 4:31now
- 4:31what's
- 4:32happening?
- 4:32In
- 4:32serotonin
- 4:33syndrome?
- 4:33My
- 4:33friends,
- 4:34there's
- 4:34excess
- 4:35serotonergic
- 4:36activity
- 4:36in
- 4:36the
- 4:37central
- 4:37nervous
- 4:37system.
- 4:38We
- 4:38typically
- 4:39find
- 4:39this
- 4:39in
- 4:39an
- 4:39overdose.
- 4:40Right.
- 4:40Your
- 4:40patient
- 4:41overdoses
- 4:41on
- 4:41Zoloft
- 4:42or
- 4:42Effexor.
- 4:43And
- 4:43this
- 4:44cluster
- 4:44of
- 4:44symptoms
- 4:45can
- 4:45certainly
- 4:45become
- 4:45problematic.
- 4:46But
- 4:46please
- 4:47know,
- 4:47it
- 4:47doesn't
- 4:48take
- 4:48an
- 4:48overdose
- 4:49alone
- 4:50to
- 4:50cause
- 4:50these
- 4:50symptoms.
- 4:51Again,
- 4:51it
- 4:51can
- 4:51be
- 4:51initiation
- 4:53of
- 4:54a
- 4:54serotonergic
- 4:55agent
- 4:55or
- 4:56the
- 4:56combination
- 4:56of
- 4:57one.
- 4:57We
- 4:57see
- 4:57these
- 4:58in
- 4:58migraine
- 4:58medications,
- 4:59too,
- 4:59that
- 5:00can
- 5:00collide
- 5:01with
- 5:01our
- 5:02SSRIs
- 5:02or
- 5:02SNRIs
- 5:03and
- 5:04cause
- 5:04this,
- 5:05especially,
- 5:05I've
- 5:06seen,
- 5:06with
- 5:06dose
- 5:07increases.
- 5:07So
- 5:08here
- 5:08you
- 5:08are.
- 5:08Your
- 5:08increasing
- 5:09effects
- 5:09are,
- 5:10you
- 5:10know,
- 5:10from
- 5:1175
- 5:12to
- 5:12150.
- 5:13And
- 5:13the
- 5:13patient's
- 5:14also
- 5:14being
- 5:14treated
- 5:14for
- 5:14migraines
- 5:15or
- 5:15chronic
- 5:15pain.
- 5:16And
- 5:16boom,
- 5:16you
- 5:17have
- 5:17this
- 5:17serotonin
- 5:18syndrome
- 5:19problem.
- 5:20This
- 5:20is
- 5:20an
- 5:20overstimulation
- 5:21of
- 5:21serotonin
- 5:22receptors,
- 5:22particularly
- 5:235HT2A
- 5:24receptors.
- 5:25And
- 5:25in
- 5:26this
- 5:26case,
- 5:26the
- 5:26Tramadol
- 5:27and
- 5:27the
- 5:27Zoloft
- 5:28have
- 5:28the
- 5:28synergistic
- 5:29effect
- 5:29of
- 5:29inhibiting
- 5:30serotonin
- 5:30reuptake.
- 5:31And
- 5:31tramadol
- 5:32will
- 5:32promote
- 5:32serotonin
- 5:33release.
- 5:34Dangerous
- 5:34synergy
- 5:35here.
- 5:35Very
- 5:36dangerous.
- 5:37Severe
- 5:37serotonin
- 5:38toxicity
- 5:38will
- 5:38most
- 5:39commonly
- 5:39occur
- 5:39with
- 5:40combinations
- 5:40of
- 5:41drugs
- 5:41acting
- 5:41at
- 5:42different
- 5:42sites.
- 5:42They
- 5:43will
- 5:43especially
- 5:43see
- 5:44this
- 5:44with
- 5:44MAOI
- 5:45inhibitors
- 5:45when
- 5:46they're
- 5:46combined
- 5:46with
- 5:46SSRIs.
- 5:47It's
- 5:47a
- 5:47big
- 5:47no
- 5:47no.
- 5:48Those
- 5:48combinations
- 5:49can
- 5:49be
- 5:49very
- 5:49problematic.
- 5:50So
- 5:50it's
- 5:51very
- 5:51important
- 5:51you're
- 5:51able
- 5:52to
- 5:52isolate
- 5:52this.
- 5:53The
- 5:53algorithm
- 5:54here
- 5:54is
- 5:55pretty
- 5:55straightforward.
- 5:56And
- 5:57at
- 5:57the
- 5:57very
- 5:57top
- 5:57of
- 5:58the
- 5:58algorithm
- 5:58is,
- 5:59has
- 5:59a
- 6:00serotonergic
- 6:00agent
- 6:01been
- 6:01administered
- 6:01in
- 6:01the
- 6:02past
- 6:02five
- 6:02weeks?
- 6:02Just
- 6:03asking
- 6:03that
- 6:03question.
- 6:03When
- 6:04you
- 6:04have
- 6:04a
- 6:04patient
- 6:05in
- 6:05front
- 6:05of
- 6:05you
- 6:05with
- 6:06this
- 6:06constellation
- 6:06of
- 6:07symptoms,
- 6:07we
- 6:08want
- 6:08to
- 6:08get
- 6:08to
- 6:09the
- 6:09root
- 6:09of
- 6:09it
- 6:09and
- 6:09figure
- 6:10out,
- 6:10are
- 6:10we
- 6:11talking
- 6:11about
- 6:11serotonin
- 6:12or
- 6:12are
- 6:12we
- 6:12talking
- 6:13about
- 6:13an
- 6:13antipsychotic?
- 6:14Right.
- 6:14And
- 6:14that's
- 6:15going
- 6:15to
- 6:15involve
- 6:15a
- 6:15different
- 6:15decision
- 6:16tree
- 6:16for
- 6:17the
- 6:17antipsychotic
- 6:17versus
- 6:18the
- 6:18serotonergic
- 6:19medications.
- 6:19And
- 6:20remember,
- 6:20when
- 6:20it
- 6:21comes
- 6:21to
- 6:21serotonergic
- 6:22medications,
- 6:22you're
- 6:22not
- 6:22just
- 6:23hunting
- 6:23for
- 6:23SSRIs.
- 6:24There's
- 6:25going
- 6:25to
- 6:25be
- 6:25a
- 6:25list
- 6:25of
- 6:25other
- 6:26medications
- 6:26that
- 6:26can
- 6:27induce
- 6:27serotonin
- 6:27syndrome.
- 6:28So
- 6:28you
- 6:29go
- 6:29down
- 6:29the
- 6:29algorithm.
- 6:30You
- 6:30sure
- 6:30enough,
- 6:31a
- 6:31patient
- 6:31is
- 6:32on
- 6:32a
- 6:32serotonergic
- 6:33agent
- 6:33or
- 6:33two,
- 6:33he
- 6:34or
- 6:34she
- 6:34had
- 6:35increased
- 6:35the
- 6:36dose
- 6:36of
- 6:36those
- 6:36agents.
- 6:37And
- 6:37then
- 6:38you
- 6:38gotta
- 6:38ask
- 6:38yourself
- 6:39in
- 6:39the
- 6:39next
- 6:39part
- 6:40of
- 6:40the
- 6:40algorithm,
- 6:40are
- 6:41any
- 6:41of
- 6:41the
- 6:41following
- 6:42symptoms
- 6:42present?
- 6:43It
- 6:43would
- 6:43be
- 6:43like
- 6:43a
- 6:43tremor
- 6:44or
- 6:44hyperreflexia,
- 6:46spontaneous
- 6:46clonus,
- 6:47muscle
- 6:48rigidity
- 6:48or
- 6:49temperature
- 6:49greater
- 6:49than
- 6:5038
- 6:50Celsius.
- 6:51And
- 6:51you
- 6:51could
- 6:51see
- 6:51ocular
- 6:52clonus
- 6:52or
- 6:53inducible
- 6:53clonus.
- 6:54Now,
- 6:54when
- 6:54we're
- 6:54talking
- 6:55about
- 6:55clonus,
- 6:56we're
- 6:56talking
- 6:56about
- 6:57involuntary
- 6:58rhythmic
- 6:59pulsating,
- 6:59muscle
- 7:00contractions
- 7:01and
- 7:01relaxations.
- 7:03And
- 7:04you
- 7:04can
- 7:04induce
- 7:04clonus
- 7:05by
- 7:05dorsiflexing
- 7:06the
- 7:06foot.
- 7:07I
- 7:07highly
- 7:07encourage
- 7:08you
- 7:08to
- 7:08look
- 7:08at
- 7:08YouTube.
- 7:09There's
- 7:09a
- 7:09lot
- 7:10of
- 7:10really
- 7:10cool
- 7:10videos
- 7:11on
- 7:11this.
- 7:11And
- 7:11I'm
- 7:12a
- 7:12visual
- 7:12person.
- 7:12I
- 7:13feel
- 7:13very
- 7:13empowered
- 7:14when
- 7:14I
- 7:14look
- 7:15at
- 7:15videos
- 7:16because
- 7:16it
- 7:16allows
- 7:17me
- 7:17to
- 7:17be
- 7:18more
- 7:18confident
- 7:18if
- 7:18I
- 7:19ever
- 7:19have
- 7:19to
- 7:19see
- 7:19this
- 7:19in
- 7:20real
- 7:20time.
- 7:20Right.
- 7:21I'll
- 7:22include
- 7:22some
- 7:22YouTube
- 7:23links
- 7:23in
- 7:23the
- 7:24show
- 7:24notes.
- 7:25It's
- 7:25also
- 7:25a
- 7:25great
- 7:25time
- 7:26for
- 7:26you
- 7:26to
- 7:26become
- 7:26Patreon
- 7:27members
- 7:27in
- 7:27the
- 7:27show
- 7:28notes.
- 7:28Highly
- 7:28recommend
- 7:29it
- 7:29because
- 7:29we're
- 7:29going
- 7:29to
- 7:30have
- 7:30serotonin
- 7:30syndrome.
- 7:31Master
- 7:32handout
- 7:32for
- 7:32you.
- 7:33That's
- 7:33going
- 7:33to
- 7:33really
- 7:34help
- 7:34you
- 7:34with
- 7:34your
- 7:34board.
- 8:29It's
- 8:30really
- 8:30cool
- 8:30to
- 8:30see
- 8:30the
- 8:31ocular
- 8:31clonus
- 8:32and
- 8:32how
- 8:32the
- 7:38eyes
- 8:33wiggle
- 8:33left
- 8:33to
- 8:34right.
- 8:34It
- 8:34kind
- 8:34of
- 8:34looks
- 8:34like
- 8:34a
- 8:34nystagmus,
- 8:35but
- 8:36like
- 8:36on
- 8:36a
- 8:36caffeine
- 8:37high,
- 8:37the
- 8:37eyes
- 8:38are
- 8:38just
- 8:38really
- 8:38gyrating
- 8:39left
- 8:39to
- 8:39right,
- 8:40and
- 8:40you
- 8:40can
- 8:40see
- 8:41what
- 8:41the
- 8:42clonus
- 8:42looks
- 8:42like
- 8:43in
- 8:43the
- 8:43lower
- 8:43extremities.
- 8:44It's
- 8:45useful
- 8:45to
- 8:45see
- 8:45this
- 8:46with
- 8:46your
- 8:46own
- 8:46eyes
- 8:47so
- 8:47that
- 8:47when
- 8:47you
- 8:47see
- 8:47it
- 8:47clinically,
- 8:48you'll
- 8:48have
- 8:48a
- 8:48much
- 8:49better
- 8:49idea
- 8:49of
- 8:49what's
- 8:49going
- 8:50on.
- 8:50We're
- 8:50looking
- 8:51for
- 8:51muscle
- 8:51rigidity,
- 8:52just
- 8:52overall
- 8:52very
- 8:53rigid
- 8:53posture
- 8:54and
- 8:54tremors.
- 8:55Hyperreflexia.
- 8:57There's
- 8:57a
- 8:57diagnosis,
- 8:58it's
- 8:59based
- 8:59on
- 8:59the
- 8:59Hunter
- 8:59serotonin
- 9:00toxicity
- 9:01criteria,
- 9:02and
- 9:02it's
- 9:03a
- 9:03pretty
- 9:03specific
- 9:04diagnostic
- 9:05symptom.
- 9:05And
- 9:06it
- 9:06requires
- 9:06a
- 9:06serotonergic
- 9:07agent
- 9:07plus
- 9:08one
- 9:08of
- 9:08the
- 9:09following,
- 9:09which
- 9:09would
- 9:09be
- 9:09spontaneous
- 9:10clonus,
- 9:11like
- 9:11we
- 9:11talked
- 9:11about,
- 9:12inducible
- 9:12clonus.
- 9:13So
- 9:13you
- 9:13can
- 9:13actually
- 9:13make
- 9:14the
- 9:14clonus
- 9:14happen.
- 9:15You
- 9:15can
- 9:15induce
- 9:15it
- 9:16by
- 9:16on
- 9:16a
- 9:17physical
- 9:17exam
- 9:18with
- 9:18agitation
- 9:19or
- 9:19diaphoresis.
- 9:20There's
- 9:20ocular
- 9:21clonus
- 9:21with
- 9:21agitation
- 9:22or
- 9:22diaphoresis,
- 9:23tremor
- 9:24and
- 9:24hyperreflexia
- 9:25or
- 9:26hypertonia.
- 9:27Temperature
- 9:27greater
- 9:28than
- 9:2838
- 9:29Celsius
- 9:29and
- 9:30ocular
- 9:30or
- 9:30inducible
- 9:31clonus.
- 9:31Again,
- 9:32Hunter
- 9:32serotonin
- 9:33toxicity
- 9:33criteria
- 9:34is
- 9:36similar
- 9:36to
- 9:37what
- 9:37I
- 9:37just
- 9:37shared
- 9:37with
- 9:37that
- 9:38algorithm,
- 9:38where
- 9:39there's
- 9:39a
- 9:39serotonergic
- 9:40agent
- 9:41and
- 9:41then
- 9:41you
- 9:41have
- 9:41one
- 9:42of
- 9:42those
- 9:42following
- 9:43problems.
- 9:43The
- 9:43clonus.
- 9:44Right.
- 9:44The
- 9:45clonus
- 9:45with
- 9:45agitation
- 9:46or
- 9:46sweating.
- 9:47The
- 9:47ocular
- 9:47clonus
- 9:48with
- 9:48agitation
- 9:49or
- 9:49sweating.
- 9:49It,
- 9:50Tremors
- 9:50and
- 9:50hyperreflexia.
- 9:52So
- 9:52a
- 9:53cluster
- 9:53of
- 9:53these
- 9:53symptoms.
- 9:54No
- 9:54need
- 9:54to
- 9:54really
- 9:54memorize
- 9:55that.
- 9:55But
- 9:55know
- 9:55that
- 9:56there
- 9:56is
- 9:56a
- 9:56Hunter
- 9:56criteria,
- 9:57the
- 9:58Hunter
- 9:58serotonin
- 9:59toxicity
- 9:59criteria,
- 10:00to
- 10:00help
- 10:00you
- 10:01navigate
- 10:01this.
- 10:01So
- 10:02you're
- 10:02not
- 10:02just
- 10:03guessing
- 10:04there's
- 10:04actual
- 10:05treatment
- 10:06that's
- 10:06tethered
- 10:07to
- 10:07this
- 10:07actual
- 10:07diagnostic
- 10:08criteria.
- 10:09Okay,
- 10:10now,
- 10:10differentials
- 10:11for
- 10:11this,
- 10:11Dale.
- 10:12Here
- 10:12in
- 10:12our
- 10:13er,
- 10:13of
- 10:13course,
- 10:14you
- 10:14can
- 10:14think
- 10:14of
- 10:14neuroleptic
- 10:15malignant
- 10:15syndrome,
- 10:16NMF
- 10:17anticholinergic
- 10:18toxicity
- 10:18and
- 10:18sepsis.
- 10:19But
- 10:19remember,
- 10:20NMS
- 10:21typically
- 10:21develops
- 10:21over
- 10:22days
- 10:22to
- 10:22weeks
- 10:22versus
- 10:23hours
- 10:23for
- 10:24serotonin
- 10:24syndrome,
- 10:25and
- 10:25it's
- 10:25usually
- 10:25more
- 10:26like
- 10:26lead
- 10:26pipe
- 10:27rigidity
- 10:27rather
- 10:27than
- 10:28hyperreflexia
- 10:29or
- 10:29clonus.
- 10:29Again,
- 10:30clonus
- 10:30has
- 10:31a
- 10:31very
- 10:31specific
- 10:31signature.
- 10:32Go
- 10:32on
- 10:32YouTube
- 10:33and
- 10:33find
- 10:33what
- 10:33clonus
- 10:34looks
- 10:34like,
- 10:34and
- 10:35you'll
- 10:35see
- 10:35that
- 10:35that's
- 10:35very
- 10:35different
- 10:36than
- 10:36this
- 10:36lead
- 10:36pipe
- 10:37rigidity,
- 10:37where
- 10:38the
- 10:38extremities
- 10:38don't
- 10:39move
- 10:39easily.
- 10:40In
- 10:40anticholinergic
- 10:41Toxicity,
- 10:42you
- 10:42would
- 10:42see
- 10:42dry
- 10:43skin.
- 10:43Not
- 10:43the
- 10:44diaphoresis
- 10:44we
- 10:44see
- 10:45in
- 10:45serotonin
- 10:45syndrome.
- 10:46You'd
- 10:46see
- 10:46urinary
- 10:47retention,
- 10:47decreased
- 10:48bowel
- 10:48sounds.
- 10:49Um,
- 10:49sepsis
- 10:50could
- 10:50be
- 10:50ruled
- 10:51out.
- 10:51If
- 10:51you
- 10:51get
- 10:51cultures
- 10:52and
- 10:52imaging,
- 10:52just
- 10:53know
- 10:53that
- 10:53these
- 10:53are
- 10:53the
- 10:53common
- 10:54differentials
- 10:54that
- 10:55clinicians
- 10:55might
- 10:55think
- 10:56about.
- 10:56But
- 10:56again,
- 10:57get
- 10:57to
- 10:57the
- 10:57root
- 10:57of
- 10:57this
- 10:58and
- 10:58you'll
- 10:58see
- 10:58serotonin
- 10:59is
- 10:59at
- 10:59the
- 10:59root
- 10:59of
- 10:59this,
- 11:00not
- 11:00an
- 11:00antipsychotic.
- 11:01So
- 11:01that's
- 11:02going
- 11:02to
- 11:02help
- 11:02you
- 11:02differentiate
- 11:03the
- 11:03two.
- 11:03Remember,
- 11:04the
- 11:04sweating
- 11:04is
- 11:04a
- 11:04good
- 11:04way
- 11:05to
- 11:05look
- 11:05at
- 11:05it,
- 11:05as
- 11:06opposed
- 11:06to
- 11:07feeling
- 11:07kind
- 11:07of
- 11:07dry,
- 11:08which
- 11:09would
- 11:09be
- 11:09more
- 11:09of
- 11:09an
- 11:09anticholinergic
- 11:10toxicity.
- 11:11The
- 11:11management
- 11:12of
- 11:12this
- 11:12typically
- 11:13is
- 11:13immediate
- 11:14discontinuation
- 11:14of
- 11:15all
- 11:15serotonergic
- 11:16agents.
- 11:16That's
- 11:16the
- 11:16cornerstone
- 11:17of
- 11:17treatment.
- 11:18Sometimes
- 11:18you
- 11:18can
- 11:19get
- 11:19back
- 11:19on
- 11:19your
- 11:19SSRI
- 11:20after
- 11:21the
- 11:21five
- 11:21half
- 11:21lives,
- 11:22wash
- 11:22it
- 11:22out
- 11:22completely,
- 11:23the
- 11:23offending
- 11:24agents
- 11:24are
- 11:24removed.
- 11:25I'll
- 11:25have
- 11:25you
- 11:26defer
- 11:26to
- 11:26individual
- 11:27cases
- 11:27and
- 11:28the
- 11:28evidence
- 11:28for
- 11:28that.
- 11:29But
- 11:29this
- 11:29is
- 11:29just
- 11:29giving
- 11:30you
- 11:30a
- 11:30conceptual
- 11:30appreciation.
- 11:31Immediate
- 11:32discontinuation
- 11:33of
- 11:33all
- 11:33serotonergic
- 11:34agents
- 11:34is
- 11:35usually
- 11:35the
- 11:35cornerstone
- 11:36of
- 11:36treatment.
- 11:36Treatment
- 11:37can
- 11:37vary
- 11:38based
- 11:38on
- 11:38the
- 11:38severity.
- 11:39In
- 11:39mild
- 11:40cases,
- 11:40you
- 11:40discontinue
- 11:41the
- 11:41offending
- 11:41agents.
- 11:42You
- 11:42might
- 11:42do
- 11:42supportive
- 11:43care
- 11:43with
- 11:43IV
- 11:44fluids,
- 11:44and
- 11:44you
- 11:45might
- 11:45give
- 11:45benzodiazepines
- 11:46for
- 11:46agitation.
- 11:47Remember,
- 11:47it's
- 11:48not
- 11:48just
- 11:48diaphoresis.
- 11:50It's
- 11:50not
- 11:50just
- 11:50hyperreflexia
- 11:52or
- 11:52clonus.
- 11:53We're
- 11:53also
- 11:54talking
- 11:54about
- 11:55agitation
- 11:56and
- 11:56confusion.
- 11:57Or
- 11:57don't
- 11:57underestimate
- 11:58the
- 11:58mental
- 11:59status
- 11:59component
- 12:00of
- 12:00this,
- 12:00the
- 12:00agitation,
- 12:01confusion,
- 12:01almost
- 12:02delirium.
- 12:02Benzodiazepines
- 12:04can
- 12:04help
- 12:04with
- 12:04that
- 12:04agitation
- 12:05piece,
- 12:05whether
- 12:05it
- 12:05be
- 12:06Valium
- 12:06or
- 12:06Ativan.
- 12:07For
- 12:07moderate
- 12:08cases,
- 12:08we
- 12:09do
- 12:09all
- 12:09of
- 12:09the
- 12:09above.
- 12:09But
- 12:10we
- 12:10might
- 12:10also
- 12:10consider
- 12:10ciproheptadine,
- 12:1212
- 12:12to
- 12:1332
- 12:13milligrams
- 12:13over
- 12:1424
- 12:14hours.
- 12:14Right.
- 12:15It's
- 12:15a
- 12:155HT2A
- 12:16antagonist.
- 12:16For
- 12:17severe
- 12:17cases,
- 12:18we
- 12:19could
- 12:19be
- 12:19looking
- 12:19at
- 12:20ICU
- 12:20admission,
- 12:21aggressive
- 12:21cooling
- 12:22measures,
- 12:23orotracheal
- 12:23intubation,
- 12:24immediate
- 12:25sedation,
- 12:25and
- 12:26neuromuscular
- 12:26paralysis.
- 12:27This
- 12:27could
- 12:27get
- 12:27pretty
- 12:28bad,
- 12:28could
- 12:29be
- 12:29potentially
- 12:29fatal.
- 12:30And
- 12:30so
- 12:30we've
- 12:31gotta
- 12:31get
- 12:32ahead
- 12:32of
- 12:32this
- 12:32and
- 12:32treat
- 12:33it.
- 12:33And
- 12:33it
- 12:33is
- 12:33quite
- 12:34treatable
- 12:34once
- 12:34you
- 12:34identify
- 12:35it.
- 12:35But
- 12:36benzodiazepines
- 12:37are
- 12:37essential
- 12:37to
- 12:37control
- 12:38those
- 12:38levels
- 12:39of
- 12:39agitation
- 12:39and
- 12:40reduce
- 12:40the
- 12:40hyper
- 12:41adrenergic
- 12:42component.
- 12:42Right.
- 12:42Our
- 12:42vital
- 12:43signs
- 12:43are
- 12:43just
- 12:43on
- 12:44fire.
- 12:44Right.
- 12:44We
- 12:45have
- 12:45elevated
- 12:46heart
- 12:46rate,
- 12:47elevated
- 12:47temperature.
- 12:48We've
- 12:49got
- 12:49to
- 12:49really
- 12:49prioritize
- 12:50the
- 12:50benzodiazepines.
- 12:51In
- 12:51some
- 12:51of
- 12:51these
- 12:51cases,
- 12:52we
- 12:53want
- 12:53to
- 12:53discontinue
- 12:53the
- 12:54serotonergic
- 12:54medications.
- 12:55In
- 12:55this
- 12:55case,
- 12:55dale
- 12:56received
- 12:56Ativan,
- 12:572mg
- 12:57IV
- 12:58for
- 12:58agitation.
- 12:59He
- 12:59got
- 12:59aggressive
- 13:00IV
- 13:00hydration,
- 13:01external
- 13:01cooling
- 13:02measures.
- 13:03He
- 13:03was
- 13:03given
- 13:0312mg
- 13:04through
- 13:05an
- 13:05NG
- 13:05tube.
- 13:06Within
- 13:06six
- 13:07hours,
- 13:07his
- 13:07temperature
- 13:08normalized.
- 13:08His
- 13:09mental
- 13:09status
- 13:09began
- 13:10improving.
- 13:10By
- 13:1124
- 13:11hours,
- 13:11his
- 13:12Clonus
- 13:12and
- 13:12hyperreflexia
- 13:13had
- 13:13resolved.
- 13:14He
- 13:14was
- 13:15discharged
- 13:16with
- 13:16follow
- 13:16up
- 13:17and
- 13:17educated
- 13:17about
- 13:17how
- 13:18to
- 13:18avoid
- 13:18serotonergic
- 13:19drug
- 13:20combinations
- 13:20in
- 13:21the
- 13:21future.
- 13:22I
- 13:22hope
- 13:22you
- 13:22got
- 13:23a
- 13:23decent
- 13:23amount
- 13:23of
- 13:24pearls
- 13:24out
- 13:24of
- 13:24this.
- 13:25I
- 13:25really
- 13:26want
- 13:26to
- 13:26emphasize
- 13:26clonus
- 13:27and
- 13:27what
- 13:27that
- 13:28looks
- 13:28like,
- 13:28how
- 13:29you
- 13:29can
- 13:29induce
- 13:29clonus
- 13:30by
- 13:30rapidly
- 13:31dorsiflexing
- 13:32the
- 13:32foot,
- 13:32but
- 13:32that
- 13:33there's
- 13:33also
- 13:33other
- 13:33spontaneous
- 13:35or
- 13:35ocular
- 13:35clonus
- 13:36that
- 13:36I
- 13:36want
- 13:36you
- 13:37to
- 13:37look
- 13:37at.
- 13:37Another
- 13:37key
- 13:38pearl
- 13:38today
- 13:38to
- 13:38summarize
- 13:39is
- 13:39that
- 13:39serotonin
- 13:40syndrome
- 13:40typically
- 13:41develops
- 13:41within
- 13:41hours
- 13:42of
- 13:42drug
- 13:43initiation
- 13:43or
- 13:43dose
- 13:44increase
- 13:44or
- 13:45adding
- 13:45the
- 13:45second
- 13:45serotonergic
- 13:46agent,
- 13:47not
- 13:47days
- 13:47or
- 13:47weeks
- 13:47like
- 13:48NMS.
- 13:48Most
- 13:49cases
- 13:49occur
- 13:49within
- 13:506
- 13:50to
- 13:5024
- 13:50hours
- 13:51of
- 13:51the
- 13:51precipitating
- 13:52event.
- 13:52Remember,
- 13:52this
- 13:53can
- 13:53even
- 13:53happen
- 13:53at
- 13:54therapeutic
- 13:54doses.
- 13:55This
- 13:55is
- 13:55not
- 13:55just
- 13:56overdoses,
- 13:56although
- 13:57that's
- 13:57probably
- 13:57most
- 13:58cases
- 13:58or
- 13:59drug
- 13:59combinations,
- 14:00which
- 14:00may
- 14:00be
- 14:00most
- 14:01cases.
- 14:01But
- 14:01this
- 14:01could
- 14:01also
- 14:02happen
- 14:02at
- 14:02normal
- 14:03therapeutic
- 14:04doses.
- 14:04And
- 14:04that's
- 14:04important
- 14:05because
- 14:05you
- 14:06shouldn't
- 14:06have
- 14:06your
- 14:06guard
- 14:07down
- 14:07just
- 14:07because
- 14:07your
- 14:07patient
- 14:08is
- 14:08trying
- 14:0820
- 14:09or
- 14:0930
- 14:09milligrams
- 14:09of
- 14:10Prozac.
- 14:10Remember
- 14:11that
- 14:11genetic
- 14:12variations
- 14:12in
- 14:12drug
- 14:13metabolism
- 14:14can
- 14:14certainly
- 14:14result
- 14:15in
- 14:16radical
- 14:17changes
- 14:17and
- 14:18ways
- 14:18that
- 14:18we
- 14:18respond
- 14:19to
- 14:19these
- 14:19serotonergic
- 14:20medications.
- 14:20So
- 14:21be
- 14:21on
- 14:21the
- 14:21lookout
- 14:21for
- 14:21that.
- 14:21Remember,
- 14:22combined
- 14:22with
- 14:22SSRIs
- 14:23or
- 14:23SNRIs
- 14:24pose
- 14:24the
- 14:24highest
- 14:25risk
- 14:25and
- 14:26that's
- 14:26a
- 14:26big
- 14:26deal.
- 14:26We
- 14:27need
- 14:27a
- 14:27two
- 14:27week
- 14:28washout
- 14:28there.
- 14:29Five
- 14:29weeks
- 14:29if
- 14:29it's
- 14:30Prozac.
- 14:30When
- 14:30switching
- 14:31between
- 14:31these
- 14:32drug
- 14:32classes,
- 14:33remember
- 14:33about
- 14:34the
- 14:34benzos
- 14:34that
- 14:34we
- 14:34talked
- 14:35about,
- 14:35how
- 14:35it's
- 14:35typically
- 14:35first
- 14:36line
- 14:36treatment,
- 14:37regardless
- 14:37of
- 14:37severity,
- 14:38that
- 14:39really
- 14:39helps
- 14:39reduce
- 14:40the
- 14:40muscle
- 14:40activity,
- 14:41controls
- 14:41the
- 14:41agitation,
- 14:42it
- 14:43blunts
- 14:43that
- 14:43hyper
- 14:44adrenergic
- 14:44response.
- 14:45Early
- 14:46sedation
- 14:46really
- 14:46improves
- 14:47outcomes
- 14:48here.
- 14:48Remember
- 14:49that
- 14:49prognosis
- 14:49is
- 14:50very
- 14:50good.
- 14:50If
- 14:50we
- 14:50recognize
- 14:51this
- 14:51early
- 14:51and
- 14:52and
- 14:52manage
- 14:52it
- 14:52appropriately.
- 14:54Serotonin
- 14:54syndrome
- 14:55has
- 14:55a
- 14:55favorable
- 14:56prognosis.
- 14:57Most
- 14:57cases
- 14:57resolve
- 14:58within
- 14:5824
- 14:58hours.
- 14:59But
- 14:59we've
- 14:59gotta
- 14:59identify
- 15:00it
- 15:00and
- 15:00intervene
- 15:01accordingly.
- 15:02I
- 15:02really
- 15:02hope
- 15:03this
- 15:03gave
- 15:03you
- 15:03a
- 15:04lot
- 15:04of
- 15:04good
- 15:04information.
- 15:04I
- 15:05know
- 15:05it
- 15:05was
- 15:05very
- 15:05helpful
- 15:05for
- 15:06me
- 15:06to
- 15:06identify
- 15:07the
- 15:07clusters
- 15:07here
- 15:08and
- 15:08to
- 15:09know
- 15:09what
- 15:09to
- 15:09do.
- 15:10Um,
- 15:10and
- 15:10like
- 15:11I
- 15:11said,
- 15:11if
- 15:11you
- 15:11become
- 15:11Patreon
- 15:12members,
- 15:12we're
- 15:12gonna
- 15:13have
- 15:13a
- 15:13really
- 15:13good
- 15:14essential
- 15:15serotonin
- 15:15syndrome.
- 15:16Go
- 15:16by
- 15:16of
- 15:17everything
- 15:17you
- 15:17need
- 15:17to
- 15:17know
- 15:17so
- 15:18you
- 15:18can
- 15:18visually
- 15:18see
- 15:18this.
- 15:19We
- 15:19also
- 15:19have
- 15:20links
- 15:20that
- 15:21are
- 15:21key
- 15:21if
- 15:21you
- 15:21become
- 15:21a
- 15:22Patreon
- 15:22member,
- 15:22you
- 15:23can
- 15:23look
- 15:23at
- 15:23those
- 15:23in
- 15:23the
- 15:23show
- 15:24notes.
- 15:24We
- 15:24make
- 15:24things
- 15:24really
- 15:25simple
- 15:25for
- 15:25you
- 15:26to
- 15:26pass
- 15:26your
- 15:26boards
- 15:27and
- 15:27thrive
- 15:27in
- 15:27practice.
- 15:28Very
- 15:28good
- 15:29visual
- 15:30handouts
- 15:31and
- 15:31go
- 15:31buys
- 15:32that
- 15:32make
- 15:32life
- 15:33a
- 15:33lot
- 15:33easier.
- 15:33It
- 15:34was
- 15:34a
- 15:34real
- 15:34pleasure
- 15:34chatting
- 15:35with
- 15:35all
- 15:35of
- 15:35you
- 15:35today.
- 15:35Again,
- 15:36this
- 15:36is
- 15:36npz,
- 15:37your
- 15:37preceptor
- 15:38in
- 15:38your
- 15:38pocket.
- 15:38It
- 15:39really
- 15:39helps
- 15:39if
- 15:39you
- 15:39give
- 15:39us
- 15:39five
- 15:40stars
- 15:40on
- 15:40Apple
- 15:40and
- 15:41write
- 15:41a
- 15:41little
- 15:41comment.
- 15:41Spread
- 15:42the
- 15:42podcast
- 15:42out.
- 15:43It's
- 15:43really
- 15:43helped
- 15:44a
- 15:44lot
- 15:44of
- 15:44people.
- 15:44We're
- 15:44in
- 15:44many
- 15:45different
- 15:45countries
- 15:45now.
- 15:46We
- 15:46appreciate
- 15:47all
- 15:47the
- 15:47love.
- 15:47You
- 15:48can
- 15:48also
- 15:48email
- 15:48me
- 15:49in
- 15:49the
- 15:49show
- 15:50notes.
- 15:50I
- 15:50have
- 15:50an
- 15:50email
- 15:50address
- 15:51there
- 15:51that
- 15:52we
- 15:52can
- 15:52talk
- 15:53about
- 15:53future
- 15:53episode
- 15:54ideas
- 15:54that
- 15:55you
- 15:55may
- 15:55have,
- 15:56questions
- 15:56you
- 15:56may
- 15:56have.
- 15:57Really
- 15:57building
- 15:57a
- 15:58study
- 15:58hall,
- 15:58a
- 15:58great
- 15:58community
- 15:59together.
- 15:59Encourage
- 16:00you
- 16:00to
- 16:00look
- 16:00at
- 16:00all
- 16:00the
- 16:00other
- 16:00past
- 16:01episodes.
- 16:01There's
- 16:01some
- 16:02goodies
- 16:02there
- 16:02that
- 16:02really
- 16:02put
- 16:03this
- 16:03all
- 16:03together.
- 16:04All
- 16:04right
- 16:04y'
- 16:04all
- 16:04take
- 16:04care.
- 16:05Bye
- 16:05bye.