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DOJ Took Lenient Stance On Hunter Biden · The Ben Ferguson Podcast

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Speaker 1: Sann Now reporting this is pretty interesting that the DOJ
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Speaker 1: repeatedly took quote very lenient stance on Hunter Biden only
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Speaker 1: changed that lenient stance after public pressure and the whistle
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Speaker 1: blowers came forward before Congress. Now, when CNN is reporting this,
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Speaker 1: you got to start asking yourself a question. If it's
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Speaker 1: this bad now, right, If it's this bad, if this
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Speaker 1: is what it looks like when you're at the DOJ
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Speaker 1: or the FBI, what does that say about what else
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Speaker 1: they may have been covering up. I want you to
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Speaker 1: take a listen, by the way, to this SoundBite, and
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Speaker 1: I want you to think about this is the same
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Speaker 1: network that knew CNN that they were lying to the
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Speaker 1: American people about Russian collision. They covered that wall to
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Speaker 1: wall for the entire Trump presidency and even a little
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Speaker 1: bit before. I want you to think about the fact
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Speaker 1: they knew that this was a dossi that could not
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Speaker 1: be corroborated, but they still report on it like it
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Speaker 1: was total fact. And now they're sitting there in this
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Speaker 1: really awkward position. You can't deny what the whistleblowers have said.
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Speaker 1: You can't deny, by the way, that Hunter Biden got
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Speaker 1: a sweetheart deal. You can't deny the fact that now
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Speaker 1: a bunch of his lawyers have had to quit on him.
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Speaker 1: Can't deny that there's massive conflicts of interest that we're
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Speaker 1: learning about as well with some of those that are
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Speaker 1: supposed to be prosecuting Hunter Biden, who actually used to
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Speaker 1: work with his brother who has passed away.
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Speaker 2: Those are just some of the new headlines that you
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Speaker 2: just throw in here.
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Speaker 1: These are big stories on their own, but when you
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Speaker 1: put in the grand scheme of things, you got to
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Speaker 1: sit back and go, Wow, should we ever trust the
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Speaker 1: media ever again? If this is how they act, like
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Speaker 1: they are propagandas for a communist political organization, because that's
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Speaker 1: basically what CNN is, the communist news network. But when
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Speaker 1: all this comes out the way that it's come out,
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Speaker 1: there's now these glimpses, and I'd say glimpses of hope,
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Speaker 1: because I don't believe they're actually going to change, but
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Speaker 1: I think at some point they realize just how ridiculous
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Speaker 1: they look, how bad they look, and they're like, all right, fine,
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Speaker 1: we look so bad. Let's let's give like a minute
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Speaker 1: and twenty seconds of accurate reporting. That's what we'll do.
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Speaker 1: We'll just give we'll give a moment of this accurate reporting.
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Speaker 2: Take a listen, Ally, I'm.
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Speaker 3: Glad you stuck around here. So when we look at
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Speaker 3: this this evolution, it really is quite the evolution in
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Speaker 3: a fairly short period of time, according to The New
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Speaker 3: York Times. I know you've noted on multiple occasions just
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Speaker 3: how long this investigation had dragged on. Have you ever
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Speaker 3: seen a federal case play out like this before?
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Speaker 4: No Erica, It's really inexplicable to me. I mean, first,
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Speaker 4: we had basically five years of behind the scenes investigation
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Speaker 4: with no transparency, no action, and some questions being asked,
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Speaker 4: what's taken so long? But in the last couple months,
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Speaker 4: we've seen a pattern here. Marshall just laid it out,
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Speaker 4: and we've now seen it play out two or three
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Speaker 4: separate times. DOJ moves towards a very lenient disposition. They're
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Speaker 4: just about to lock in that lenient disposition, and then
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Speaker 4: there arises pressure, either through whistleblower testimony or through public scrutiny,
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Speaker 4: and then DJ backs off and says, actually, we're not
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Speaker 4: going to do that. Now that it's been called out,
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Speaker 4: We're going to try to up it a little bit.
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Speaker 4: And then that happened again, and then they go all
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Speaker 4: the way to appointing special counsel, the same guy who's
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Speaker 4: been presiding over the case for five plus years already.
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Speaker 4: So I genuinely am perplexed by what DOJ is doing here.
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Speaker 4: I think they've made a real mess for themselves and
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Speaker 4: now they're going to have to deal with the consequences
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Speaker 4: of it.
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Speaker 3: So, in terms of the mess and those consequences, look,
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Speaker 3: public trust is certainly one of them. Is there anything
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Speaker 3: that you see the DOJ could do, based on your
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Speaker 3: experience right as a former federal prosecutor, to restore public
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Speaker 3: confidence in this investigation? Is the only way to fix
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Speaker 3: this a trial?
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Speaker 2: It may be Erica.
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Speaker 4: You know, DOJ's sort of been in a darned if
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Speaker 4: they do darned if they don't posture on this from
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Speaker 4: the start, But they've made it way worse by sort
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Speaker 4: of careening back and forth here. It may well be
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Speaker 4: that any deal is never going to be accepted as fair.
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Speaker 4: So if I'm in David Weiss's shoes here, Heaven help me,
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Speaker 4: I would just say, look, we're charging everything we have,
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Speaker 4: We're not in position to make a deal. It'll go
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Speaker 4: to trial and We'll let the jury decide this. I
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Speaker 4: think that's the only way to restore any credibility to
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Speaker 4: this matter.
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Speaker 1: The only way to restore any credibility this matter. That's
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Speaker 1: coming from CNN. The New York Times is also reporting
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Speaker 1: this morning. Prosecutors insisted, this is the New York Times
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Speaker 1: on Harsher Hunter Biden Plea deal. As irs whistleblowers came
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Speaker 1: forward because they understood now that they had been busted, right,
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Speaker 1: they thought they could just ram this deal. Through this
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Speaker 1: sweetheart deal. They would give him immunity from everything he'd
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Speaker 1: ever done in the past. And then when they're doing that,
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Speaker 1: then they could just walk away and go, look at us,
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Speaker 1: look at how good we are. Look at how we
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Speaker 1: were able to pull this off. Right, Look at how
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Speaker 1: we were able to pull this off. Look at what
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Speaker 1: we were able to do. They were going to walk
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Speaker 1: out of that Plea deal and go, Wow, we run
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Speaker 1: the world.
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Speaker 2: We own the world.
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Speaker 1: We are better than everyone else. We are making the rules,
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Speaker 1: We make the rules. How we are the government. And
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Speaker 1: when that Plea deal exploded, right, because only because of
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Speaker 1: brave men and women who came forward as whistleblowers, did
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Speaker 1: they then realize, Okay, we might not be able to
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Speaker 1: get away with this. Now, I again, you go back
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Speaker 1: to who the special counsel is. The special counsel is
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Speaker 1: the same exact person that gave them the sweetheart deal.
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Speaker 1: So this idea that what they should do and what
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Speaker 1: they may do are two very different things. If you're
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Speaker 1: waiting for them to do the right thing, I want
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Speaker 1: to be clear, I'm not sure that's gonna happen. Okay,
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Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not sure that's actually gonna happen. If
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Speaker 1: you're waiting for there to be justice with this, I'm
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Speaker 1: not sure that's gonna happen the way that they just
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Speaker 1: described it. I'm also not sure that that is going
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Speaker 1: to happen. There's no integrity with these people. Yes, they
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Speaker 1: got busted, right, I mean they did. They got busted.
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Speaker 1: They got busted big time. And getting busted doesn't mean
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Speaker 1: you're gonna fix it, doesn't mean you're gonna change it,
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Speaker 1: doesn't mean you're gonna do it any differently. They're now
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Speaker 1: trying to figure out how do we get out of
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Speaker 1: being busted but still get what we want, which is
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Speaker 1: limited exposure of the President of the United States of America.
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Speaker 1: Right limited. That's the most important thing, limited exposure for
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Speaker 1: Joe Biden while also protecting Joe Biden's son. So he's
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Speaker 1: not in prison like a normal person would be in
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Speaker 1: prison for doing and committing these types of crimes.
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Speaker 2: So how do we how do we pull that off? Right?
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Speaker 3: Like?
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Speaker 1: What are we do in that scenario? That's what they're
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Speaker 1: going with. Here's that is the ballgame. I for a second,
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Speaker 1: all right, I don't believe for a second we're gonna
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Speaker 1: get something real here.
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Speaker 2: Okay. I just want to be very very very very
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Speaker 2: very very very clear with that.
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Speaker 1: I don't believe for a moment that we're going to
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Speaker 1: get anything here that's going to be meaningful. I don't
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Speaker 1: believe that this is going to change, Okay. I don't
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Speaker 1: believe that this is going to get any better. I
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Speaker 1: do believe there could be a tad more accountability. And
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Speaker 1: I'm not sure what CNN just said there is going
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Speaker 1: to happen either, right, I'm really not I'm not sure
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Speaker 1: that we're even going to get to a trial with
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Speaker 1: all the charges that they just describe. I just don't
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Speaker 1: see that actually happening. I assume that as soon as
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Speaker 1: they think that we may not be paying attention that
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Speaker 1: we may be looking the other way, or that we
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Speaker 1: may have moved on to something else, so there's another
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Speaker 1: bigger news story. They will go right back to saying, Okay,
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Speaker 1: let's slide this in there, right.
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Speaker 2: Like, let's let let's let's.
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Speaker 1: Slide it in there and see what we can pull
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Speaker 1: off that that, you know, let's see what we can
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Speaker 1: get away with. But when you have CNN actually saying this,
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Speaker 1: I will say that that is a glimpse from one
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Speaker 1: person who was brave enough to say just how bad
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Speaker 1: this is on CNN. That is a glimpse of some hope.
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Speaker 1: And I say some, I want to be clear, this
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Speaker 1: is a very little bit of hope that maybe, just
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Speaker 1: maybe the this is something that may not work out
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Speaker 1: the way the Biden crime family was hoping that it.
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Speaker 2: Worked out, or that it would work out.
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Speaker 1: Hunter Biden's lawyers apparently leverage the President of United States
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Speaker 1: of America is a threat to make sure that the
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Speaker 1: investigation into Joe Biden didn't go anywhere. Yes, Hunter Biden's
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Speaker 1: lawyers threatened to put the president on the stand. A
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Speaker 1: new report out says Hunter Biden's lawyers apparently warned the
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Speaker 1: prosecutors last year that Hunter Biden's defense would in fact
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Speaker 1: put the President on the stand to testify in his
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Speaker 1: son's defense if criminal charges were ever brought against him.
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Speaker 1: According to this new report, Hunter's lawyer Chris Clark wrote
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Speaker 1: a letter to prosecutors last October after newsleak that federal
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Speaker 1: agents had enough evidence to charge the first son with
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Speaker 1: illegally buying a firearm while still using crack cocaine. Clark
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Speaker 1: said that if the Justice Department did in fact charge
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Speaker 1: Hunter Biden, the defense would be forced to put the
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Speaker 1: Commander in chief on the witness stand. In the message
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Speaker 1: obtained by Politico, it said President Biden now unquestionably would
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Speaker 1: be a fact witness for the defense in any criminal trial.
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Speaker 1: That is what Clark wrote in the thirty two page
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Speaker 1: letter that's now been obtained by Politico. Now the email,
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Speaker 1: along with an additional three hundred pages of emails reviewed
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Speaker 1: by Politico, gives us a very new, unreported insight into
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Speaker 1: Hunter's sweet plea bargain deal that he was given by
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Speaker 1: the now special prosecutor who was the guy who gave him.
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Speaker 1: The sweetheart deal would have kept him out of prison,
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Speaker 1: we know that, but it also would have kept him
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Speaker 1: out of any future indictments. All of that fell apart
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Speaker 1: at the last minute last month, after whistleblowers came forward
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Speaker 1: detailing the corruption of the Biden crime family, now the
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Speaker 1: younger Biden fifty three, he pleaded not guilty to federal
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Speaker 1: tax and gun charges in Delaware on July the twenty sixth,
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Speaker 1: after the deal, which was bashed by many for its leniency,
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Speaker 1: was pulled by the US district judge. The judge had
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Speaker 1: concerns over quote, ongoing investigations, ongoing probes, and to other
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Speaker 1: potential offenses committed by Hunter, including failing to register as
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Speaker 1: a foreign agent for lucrative dealings with foreign countries that
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Speaker 1: allegedly involved his father. After persistent questioning, Clark declared the
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Speaker 1: deal quote no and void now in exchange or I
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Speaker 1: should say in the exchangees. In the prior month, Clark
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Speaker 1: and his team often told prosecutors during private negotiations that
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Speaker 1: they were worried about the intense political atmosphere surrounding the case.
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Speaker 1: Again this according to Politico, they raised concerns multiple times
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Speaker 1: over pressure from Republican lawmakers and argued that the case
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Speaker 1: could tarnish the DOJ's reputation because they would be have
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Speaker 1: having to cross examine or question or defend a sitting
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Speaker 1: president of the United States of America who would be
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Speaker 1: called by Hunter Biden's team. That, by the way, is
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Speaker 1: the ultimate leverage here now. Clark said that trying the
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Speaker 1: president's son, pitting the president against his own Justice Department,
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Speaker 1: because obviously he would defend his son, they were saying,
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Speaker 1: would create constitutional chaos. They argue, saying this is this
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Speaker 1: of all cases, justifies neither the spectacle of a sitting
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Speaker 1: president testifying in a criminal trial nor the potential for
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Speaker 1: a resulting constitutional crisis. Hunter Biden's lawyer, Clark wrote, we
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Speaker 1: also know that this judge dismissed the tax misdemeanor charges
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Speaker 1: against the first one, Hunter Biden. On Thursday, Attorney General
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Speaker 1: Merrick Garland appointed the Delaware US attorney David Wise, who
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Speaker 1: authored the Sweetheart Plea deal, to serve as special counsel
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Speaker 1: in the case. The appointment will allow him to bring
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Speaker 1: charges without the approval of Biden appointees in other districts
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Speaker 1: that blocked Weiss's previous efforts. They claim to charge Hunter
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Speaker 1: with millions of dollars with millions of dollars of tax
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Speaker 1: fraud charges Hunter, by the way, is expected to stand
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Speaker 1: trial in either Washington, d C. Or southern California, both
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Speaker 1: places where jury pools and judges will more than likely
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Speaker 1: be very favorable to Hunter Biden, and that's exactly why
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Speaker 1: they've chosen those areas. Now, if you think about this dynamic,
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Speaker 1: you have a former president of the United States of
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Speaker 1: America who gets elected his son is embezzling money at
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Speaker 1: the levels that we couldn't even imagine even a month ago.
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Speaker 1: We're now being told by James Comer it could be
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Speaker 1: upwards of forty to fifty to sixty million dollars in
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Speaker 1: bribes that came into the Biden And then you have
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Speaker 1: lawyers for Hunter Biden threatening the Department of Justice that
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Speaker 1: we will put the president on the stand and that
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Speaker 1: will put you in opposite sides with the sitting president
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Speaker 1: United States of America, who happens to be your boss.
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Speaker 2: That's one hell of a threat.
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Speaker 1: It is a threat that I think everybody should take seriously.
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Speaker 1: It is a threat that was done and they knew
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Speaker 1: what they were doing. It was a reminder you don't
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Speaker 1: screw with the President of United States of America or
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Speaker 1: his family.
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Speaker 2: You don't go after the family.
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Speaker 1: You don't do anything against Hunter Biden, and if you do,
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Speaker 1: then the President is going to be very unhappy and
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Speaker 1: you're going to have to go up against him in
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Speaker 1: testamony because we will absolutely call him to defend his son.
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Speaker 2: That is a threat that I would argue.
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Speaker 1: There's no way it wasn't choreographed, okay, by the Biden
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Speaker 1: team with the father who happens to be the president involved.
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Speaker 1: There's no way that legal strategy came up by accident
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Speaker 1: or just without the president's knowledge. I think what we
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Speaker 1: clearly know now is that this president knew how to
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Speaker 1: make sure that his son was protected.
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Speaker 2: Once he became the president. He knew.
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Speaker 1: They can't make They can't take this risk, right, That's
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Speaker 1: what it really boils down to. They can't take this risk.
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Speaker 1: There's no way they can take this risk. This is
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Speaker 1: too great of a risk. They're not going to go
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Speaker 1: after their own boss, the president of the United States
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Speaker 1: of America. Remember, all of these people serve quote unquote
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Speaker 1: at the pleasure of the President. You think the DOJ
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Speaker 1: or anybody else involved is going to be okay with
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Speaker 1: that scenario, of course not. They don't want to be
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Speaker 1: in that scenario. They don't want to deal with this
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Speaker 1: that it was just described, and it makes sense why,
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Speaker 1: Like I genuinely understand it now, I get it.
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Speaker 2: I comprehend it.
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Speaker 1: This was a fix that they had thought every single
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Speaker 1: move that they may have to make, and every single
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Speaker 1: time it was a trump card that we will bring
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Speaker 1: Joe Biden in here and you're screwed.
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Speaker 2: That's what it really was.
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Speaker 1: Now, while all of this is happening, there's something else
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Speaker 1: that has happened around Hunter Biden. That is three more
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Speaker 1: if Hunter Biden's lawyers have moved to withdraw from the
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Speaker 1: case defending him, since this is going to be a
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Speaker 1: real case now, not one, not two, but three. If
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Speaker 1: Hunter Biden's defense attorneys moved to a draw from the
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Speaker 1: case late on Friday, after the lead attorney, Chris Clark,
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Speaker 1: withdrew last week.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, so that's four now total.
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Speaker 1: Latham and Watkins, the attorney office, and the attorneys in there,
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Speaker 1: Brian McManus, Timothy mccarton, Matthew Solerno requested permission from the
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Speaker 1: judge to withdraw from the case after the judge just
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Speaker 1: missed the pleading on August seventeenth. Moving forward, prosecutors expect
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Speaker 1: the case to go to trial where it will likely
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Speaker 1: be tried in Delaware or California. Now you've got to
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Speaker 1: ask yourself this question, why did this happen?
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Speaker 2: Well?
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Speaker 1: withdraw all appearances for the law firm of Latham and
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Speaker 1: get work. They're starting to fret that Hunter will cloud
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Speaker 1: his dad's campaign for the presidency. This was part of
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Speaker 1: that conversation on CNN where they were actually talking about this,
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Speaker 1: and at the bottom it actually said on the screen
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Speaker 1: Hunter Biden investigation. DEM's worried Hunter will cloud dad's campaign.
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Speaker 2: Listen an agenda at this.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, and Jeff like, we're starting to see in twenty
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Speaker 5: twenty four for Trump not to say apples to apples here,
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Speaker 5: but there are there are legal problems, and there are
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Speaker 5: the political implications of those legal problems, and what does
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Speaker 5: this mean politically for Biden.
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Speaker 6: I think politically it removes some of the moral high
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Speaker 6: ground that he might have against all the Trump accusations.
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Speaker 6: And among Democrats it probably doesn't matter. But among independent
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Speaker 6: voters who are like, you know, just this is why
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Speaker 6: we don't like government, they all just smell a little
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Speaker 6: crooked here.
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Speaker 2: I think that could be an issue.
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Speaker 6: And also, perhaps most important, how it directly impacts the
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Speaker 6: president's thinking in his head. He is so defensive of
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Speaker 6: Hunter Biden, and I think that this has the potential
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Speaker 6: of really agitating him. And you know, I just think
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Speaker 6: it's a bad look. But we don't know how long
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Speaker 6: this is going out. But Land's right, a child does
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Speaker 6: not have to be unfolding here. No one wants a
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Speaker 6: special counsel. And this is the second special counsel that
20:16
Speaker 6: is looking into the Biden family, if you will, I mean,
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Speaker 6: the other one is still looking into the president's a
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Speaker 6: handling a classified documents. So you don't want a special
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Speaker 6: counsel because it opens a box and a door to
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Speaker 6: who knows what right?
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Speaker 2: And I want I love by the way, they're like,
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Speaker 2: you don't want a special counsel. Sure you do.
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Speaker 1: If it's David Weiss, and this is where the media
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Speaker 1: is spinning, they have no problem with this. David Weiss
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Speaker 1: is the guy that gave him a sweetheart deal. David
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Speaker 1: Wisse's the one that refused to bring charges. David wise
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Speaker 1: is the one that ran out the clock on the
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Speaker 1: statue of limitations on the most egregious crimes that Hunter
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Speaker 1: Biden was being accused of. David Weiss is now the
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Speaker 1: Special Counsel. So you know that David Weiss is going
20:54
Speaker 1: to hook you up, right?
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Speaker 2: You know this.
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Speaker 1: It's not hard for anyone to see that this is
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Speaker 1: clearly not a threat to the presidency when it comes
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Speaker 1: to that Special Council. In fact, it's a mockery of
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Speaker 1: the justice system. It is a fox guarding the hen house.
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Speaker 1: There is no difference between David Weiss two weeks ago
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Speaker 1: and David Weiss today. There is absolutely no difference here whatsoever.
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Speaker 1: And I think that if you're at the White House
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Speaker 1: right now, honestly knowing how many people are defending you,
21:32
Speaker 1: knowing how many people are protecting you, knowing how many
21:35
Speaker 1: people are willing to look like I mean this just
21:38
Speaker 1: like complete idiots, complete morons, right. I mean, we're talking
21:44
Speaker 1: about morons here because they got to keep their jobs.
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Speaker 2: That's part of it, right, They need to keep their power.
21:52
Speaker 1: The people that are around the president, the DOJ, the FBI,
21:56
Speaker 1: they know what happens if a Republican wins, especially if
21:59
Speaker 1: that Republican Intella Trump. So that's why I guess they're
22:02
Speaker 1: willing to cover up crimes so they can at least
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Speaker 1: keep their jobs. You know, there's a very interesting conversation
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Speaker 1: that Mark Levin had about this on his show Life,
22:13
Speaker 1: Liberty and Levin. I want you to hear what he
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Speaker 1: had to say, comparing what Hillary Clinton did to what
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Speaker 1: the DOJ is prosecuting, for example, Trump on right now
22:23
Speaker 1: and just talking about this two tiered system of government.
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Speaker 2: It also relates to the Biden former. So what did
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Speaker 2: Hillary Clinton do?
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Speaker 7: She walks the country free, She's gaggling all over the place,
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Speaker 7: She's getting into friendly media, She's laughing about all these indictments.
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Speaker 7: Hillary Clinton should be imprisoned for her entire life. Over
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Speaker 7: forty five hundred criminal statutes in the US Code that
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Speaker 7: exist today, the one mostly used the ones in conspiracy,
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Speaker 7: faulse statements, money launching, obstruction, pergery, mail fraud, wirefraud, bank fraud.
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Speaker 2: Tax evasion Hillary Clinton.
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Speaker 7: To convict Clinton, it must be shown that she acknowledged
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Speaker 7: that classified emails would contained on her privates, and they
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Speaker 7: said the most recent tally by the State Department of
23:03
Speaker 7: their review of thirty thousand Clinton emails indicates at least
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Speaker 7: six hundred and seventy one emails sent or received by
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Speaker 7: Clinton contained classified information. This fact stands in stark contrast
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Speaker 7: to the statement she gave the reporters in July of
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Speaker 7: that year, once she said I'm confident that I've never
23:20
Speaker 7: sent nor received any information that was classified at the
23:23
Speaker 7: time was center received. According to the October sixteenth Fox
23:26
Speaker 7: News report, the FBI is also looking to see if
23:29
Speaker 7: Clinton committeed gross negligence under the Espionage Act for failure
23:33
Speaker 7: to keep National Defense Information safe eighteen USC.
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Speaker 2: Seven ninety three.
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Speaker 7: They're using that against Trump. Notably, the information doesn't necessarily
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Speaker 7: have to be marcus classified to violate the statute. The article,
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Speaker 7: citing an intelligence community source who spoke on the condition
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Speaker 7: of anonymity. The intelligence source said the subsection requires the
23:53
Speaker 7: lawful possession of national defense information by a security clearance
23:57
Speaker 7: holder who through gross negligence, such as it's the use
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Speaker 7: of an unsecure computer network permits the material to be
24:04
Speaker 7: removed or abstracted from its proper secure location. She even
24:08
Speaker 7: hired an it purpose on her own person, on her
24:11
Speaker 7: own dime, who works for the Department of State, to
24:14
Speaker 7: handle the server. That's how much she didn't want anyone
24:16
Speaker 7: to know about this serve. And by the way, that's
24:17
Speaker 7: a crime too. You're not allowed to subsidize or receive
24:22
Speaker 7: private money is for doing what is a government job.
24:25
Speaker 7: And that's sort of what he was doing for her
24:27
Speaker 7: at her request, but nobody talks about that. She destroyed
24:31
Speaker 7: over thirty thousand emails, They destroyed their cell phones. Nobody
24:35
Speaker 7: was dragged in front of a grand jury. There was
24:36
Speaker 7: no search under her home for any other servers or information.
24:41
Speaker 7: She did an interview, her staff was permitted to be there,
24:44
Speaker 7: her lawyers were permitted to be there. Her lawyers destroyed
24:47
Speaker 7: this information based on header information, not substantient information. And
24:52
Speaker 7: she skates and the Presidential Records Act that applies to Trump,
24:57
Speaker 7: which gives the president authority over documents. No other official
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Speaker 7: in the government, including a Secretary of State or an
25:03
Speaker 7: next Secretary of State.
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Speaker 2: She didn't have that defense.
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Speaker 7: She didn't have that statue. Trump has that, and he's
25:10
Speaker 7: charged with forty counts and he's charged with a total
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Speaker 7: of ninety one counts from these three prosecutors.
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Speaker 1: Mark Levin is right, and not only is he right
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Speaker 1: on this, but he's also right in the aspect of
25:24
Speaker 1: this also relates to Joe Biden and the Biden crime family.
25:28
Speaker 1: The same thing that they did with Hillary Quinton is
25:30
Speaker 1: the same thing they're doing with the Bidens. Except the
25:33
Speaker 1: difference this time is there is there's real court cases
25:37
Speaker 1: and real crimes that they're investigating. And so now the
25:40
Speaker 1: threats are coming back of Okay, if you treat Hunter
25:45
Speaker 1: Biden like a normal human being, if you treat his
25:49
Speaker 1: crimes like a normal human being, we will be forced
25:53
Speaker 1: to then take the President United States of America, put
25:55
Speaker 1: him on the stand to defend his son. And do
25:57
Speaker 1: you really want to go against your boss? That's the threat?
26:03
Speaker 1: Do you want to go against your boss? And these
26:06
Speaker 1: people at the DOJ and the FBI, they know what's
26:10
Speaker 1: going to happen to their jobs if any Republican is elected.
26:14
Speaker 1: It didn't matter which one. Let's say it's not Trump.
26:17
Speaker 1: Let's say it's a Santus, Let's say it's a Bibic.
26:18
Speaker 1: Let's say it's any of these except for maybe Chris Christie.
26:23
Speaker 1: They know that their jobs are going to be gone instantly,
26:26
Speaker 1: and if it is Donald Trump, they are also, I think,
26:30
Speaker 1: extremely worried. They are extremely worried that not only are
26:38
Speaker 1: they going to lose their jobs, but they may actually
26:40
Speaker 1: be indicted. They may actually have a special prosecutor that
26:44
Speaker 1: looks at the crimes that they were committing and then
26:45
Speaker 1: comes after them, even though they were in the US government.
26:49
Speaker 1: There's a good chance that all of a sudden, everything
26:51
Speaker 1: that they did is not just going to be shown publicly,
26:56
Speaker 1: but then they will be investigated. And by the way,
26:59
Speaker 1: I don't believe that's a political witch hunt. If Donald
27:01
Speaker 1: Trump is elected, he will have a mandate to do that.
27:04
Speaker 1: One last thing that I also think is playing into
27:07
Speaker 1: this right now is Joe Biden's not very popular and
27:12
Speaker 1: the reason why is look at this. If you compare
27:15
Speaker 1: the first thirty months of Joe Biden's presidency to Donald
27:19
Speaker 1: Trump jobs created, and a lot of these, by the way,
27:22
Speaker 1: were when people came back to work post COVID, So
27:25
Speaker 1: this number is inflated because some people had quit their jobs,
27:28
Speaker 1: lost their jobs, and they came back, and Biden's getting
27:30
Speaker 1: credit for that. Post COVID it is two point one
27:33
Speaker 1: million to Joe Biden. Four point nine million jobs are
27:37
Speaker 1: created by Trump manufacturing jobs in the first thirty months
27:40
Speaker 1: two earn four thousand jobs are created by Biden at
27:43
Speaker 1: the same point in his presidency, almost a half a
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Speaker 1: million for Donald Trump. And look at the thirty year
27:49
Speaker 1: mortgage rate seven point five to one on a thirty
27:53
Speaker 1: year mortgage right now, the highest in twenty one years.
27:56
Speaker 1: What was it in January of twenty twenty one, two
27:58
Speaker 1: point sixty five. That's what this election is also going
28:02
Speaker 1: to be about. Let me say one final thing and
28:05
Speaker 1: recap here about the Biden crime family and everything that
28:08
Speaker 1: we just learned real quick about. Not only is lawyers
28:11
Speaker 1: quitting on him, Hunter Biden, the corruption now with prosecutors
28:16
Speaker 1: that are supposed to be investigating him formally worked with
28:19
Speaker 1: his brother Bo. It's going to take, by the way,
28:23
Speaker 1: more whistleblowers to even keep this thing front and center.
28:26
Speaker 1: I don't know how many are out there. I don't
28:29
Speaker 1: know how many are going to be brave enough to
28:31
Speaker 1: come forward. And I understand people not coming forward, if
28:34
Speaker 1: you've got kids, you've got a family to take care of,
28:37
Speaker 1: your career, individual with the irs, or anywhere else in
28:41
Speaker 1: our government where you could you know, instantly become a whistleblower.
28:46
Speaker 2: I'm serious when I say this. I understand why many.
28:49
Speaker 1: Whistleblowers don't come forward because if you know the system
28:52
Speaker 1: is so rigged that you have to be a whistleblower
28:54
Speaker 1: number one, Okay, then number two is going to be
28:58
Speaker 1: even worse than that. The point I'm about to make
29:00
Speaker 1: right because because number one, right, number one is that
29:06
Speaker 1: you are a you know, whistleblower, Well, then number two
29:10
Speaker 1: is there's retaliation that comes after you. Right, there's there,
29:14
Speaker 1: there's total retaliation. People are going to come after you,
29:21
Speaker 1: and you may lose your career. You may have your
29:23
Speaker 1: career completely, you know, just shut out off, right. You
29:27
Speaker 1: may never get to grow in your career. You may
29:30
Speaker 1: be labeled. And what if Joe Biden wins again? Is
29:34
Speaker 1: it fair to say at that point like you're just
29:36
Speaker 1: done right, Like at that point it's just game over.
29:39
Speaker 1: That's the problem here. That that that's the that's the
29:43
Speaker 1: biggest problem that I see is that aspect of this
29:49
Speaker 1: it without more whistleblowers to keep putting pressure on them
29:54
Speaker 1: to do the right thing. I don't think that we're
29:57
Speaker 1: gonna win. I don't think that justice is to win.
30:02
Speaker 1: I hope there are more brave men and women that
30:03
Speaker 1: will come forward, and I hope that when they do,
30:06
Speaker 1: the media will be forced to cover it. That's what
30:10
Speaker 1: I hope. That's my goal. I think having an honest
30:17
Speaker 1: look at all this should be the goal of everybody.
30:20
Speaker 1: I think having an honest look at what is happening
30:25
Speaker 1: with this family should be the goal of anyone that
30:27
Speaker 1: cares about law and order. But when you look at
30:31
Speaker 1: the compare and contrast aspect of everything, of what they're
30:35
Speaker 1: doing to Donald Trump, I mean, he's gonna get arrested
30:39
Speaker 1: again this week, for goodness sakes, He's gonna get arrested
30:43
Speaker 1: again in Georgia for ridiculous crimes that they're charging him with.
30:52
Speaker 1: They're even charging him for things that he did outside
30:54
Speaker 1: the state, which is outside of jurisdiction. They don't care.
30:57
Speaker 1: That's how psychotic the left has become. Meanwhile, we're sitting
31:02
Speaker 1: here as conservatives, like, what do we do? How do
31:05
Speaker 1: we play this game? What should Republicans do? Should Republican
31:09
Speaker 1: das go after the Bidens and say, Okay, I don't
31:12
Speaker 1: care that the crime didn't happen here. If this is
31:14
Speaker 1: how the new game is going to be played, then
31:15
Speaker 1: we're going to play the game this way. It's a
31:18
Speaker 1: really tough sell for many conservative lawyers and DA's to
31:25
Speaker 1: not go down to the level of the Democrats and
31:27
Speaker 1: become activists. And I understand that, like, it's really tough,
31:32
Speaker 1: but when you see this type of abuse of power,
31:36
Speaker 1: then you ask yourself what's next? And if we don't
31:40
Speaker 1: fight back, what are they gonna What is this country
31:42
Speaker 1: going to look like in five years, hell in five
31:45
Speaker 1: months for that matter, And imagine another four years of
31:49
Speaker 1: this type of abuse of power by Joe Biden and
31:52
Speaker 1: the Biden crime family and the Biden DOJ, the Biden FBI,
31:57
Speaker 1: the Biden CIA, the Biden White House staff. If they
32:02
Speaker 1: can get away with us, then what does it look
32:04
Speaker 1: like for another four years, especially when none of them
32:07
Speaker 1: are then worried about that most important thing, right job security.
32:12
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