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Bazookas, Betrayal and Badassery: Neva & Nevsky on Prey of Wrath · Cinema Yūgen

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G'day. That's right. It's that time again. Time for... CINEMA! You get...
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Hello my little Eugenites, welcome back. A stolen nuclear arsenal,
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a rogue strike team and a countdown already burning towards global annihilation.
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From the explosive world of independent action cinema comes a high-impact espionage
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thriller where betrayal isn't personal, it's operational.
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International action star Tatiana, neighbouring martial arts action legend and
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Cynthia Rothbrock collide in a mission built on fire, precision,
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and survival at any cost.
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When rogue deserters from a covert special forces program steel nuclear warheads,
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the elite operative, that's right, Tatiana Naevo, is deployed to erase the
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a living weapon forged in secrecy
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trained to end problems permanently but this
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time the problem has a face and leading
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them is the man who made her the sadistic mentor
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she swore to kill every move anticipated
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every ally of liability every second brings the world closer to extinction cornered
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by her past she is forced into a volatile alliance with an uncompromising FBI
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director because stopping the end of the world means trusting no one and surviving everyone.
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From directors Benny Tandra and Doug Tukhoyshka, the explosive cinematography
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by Talons, Tears and Louis D.
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Stefano, music by Doug Tukhoyshka and the executive production overseen by the
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mighty Alexander Nevsky and Tatiana Neva.
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This isn't a mission, it's a reckoning. alexander and
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tatiana join me now on cinema you can to break
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down the making of prey of wrath the stunts
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the fight choreography and the chaos behind the camera prey of wrath my review
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is in the description along with a link where you can watch the movie now but
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welcome them to cinema you can the mighty alexander nevsky and the beautiful
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and little tatiana neighbor thank you.
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It's so nice to have you guys. I had a friend.
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Let me, let me open by saying this. I had a friend a while back who had a screenplay,
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which had a snow battle in it, which is very similar to the snow battle that opens. It's,
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prey of wrath which is out now challenging yeah
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on zoomo play get over to the links
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in the description you don't have to wait you can watch this movie right now
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get down to the links in the description i remember at the time him saying to
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me the producers automatically threw script away because they said there's no
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way you can do a snow battle uh in an independent film It's impossible. It's expensive.
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You did it. So for all of the keen filmmakers who have been told in the past
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that you can't do a snow battle in your films, please tell us,
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how did you pull off that incredible, what an incredible opening?
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I compare it to the Spy Who Loved Me and True Lies sort of opening, awesome action.
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Tatiana, the best use of a rocket launcher I've ever seen. I've never seen someone
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take out someone with a rocket launcher that way.
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After taking out most of the guys with the rocket and then taking out a guy
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with the rocket launcher, it was absolutely incredible.
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I almost cheered out loud watching it. I was like, all right.
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And she used the rocket launcher to bash his head in as well.
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Fantastic stuff. Tell us how do you, tell for filmmakers out there who are learning
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or coming up, how do you pull off action like this on such a low budget?
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Yeah i mean the budget was lower
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than we would have wanted but it was still you know
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like a decent budget it was in the six figures
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so you know like i mean but there's it's
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never enough like when you do an action film there's so
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many expenses there's so it's it's a
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lot it's a lot it's a mountain to climb alexander knows
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he can adjust how much of
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it how much of it is real location like real
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snow or or is it just a it was all real snow
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it was all real that's all real okay so yeah
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we actually freezed our butts off
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in snow yeah so you timed
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the production you timed the production to line up
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with the snow period we did yeah and
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that was tricky because it was shot in california wow
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which the good thing about california is
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that we do get snow the bad thing is is
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unpredictable how much snow when we're gonna get it so
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we have to be pretty much ready in the moment's notice
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whenever it would start raining yeah we
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knew that it would be snowing in the mountains so we would immediately start
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preparing it everybody would get a phone call like hey we're going to be filming
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within the next few days yeah and we would just wait for the snow like to pile
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up a little bit and we went on location it was a few hours driving i have no
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I have no idea exactly where we were, I could not pinpoint it.
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It was in cali and that scene was actually shot it was not shot consecutively
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like within like a short amount of time we came back to do reshoots for a couple of years.
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Because we had to catch those rare days
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like when it was snowing and we still had
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more stuff to do it was one of the most ambitious scenes
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in the movie so it took it took us a while
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and it was really challenging i'm not gonna lie so when you
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say a couple of years what do you mean like two three like
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let me let me interrupt for a second and explain a couple of things to your
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listeners and to your audience so alexander nevsky joined that project just
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in the in the end of 2024 right But Tatiana and her team, a great team,
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directors, Benny Chandra, Dr.
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Chiwoka, Cynthia Rothrock, I mean, legendary Cynthia Rothrock,
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and all the great cast and crew.
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And by the way, Benny Chandra also produced the movie, Tatiana exec produced
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the movie, and I joined as exec producer.
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In the end of 2024. So film was already shot.
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So all your compliments about production value in that amazing stance which
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Tatiana, by the way, did by herself.
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And I mean, I love your review. Thank you very much for your review.
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You know, because you actually captured in your review my exact feelings because
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this movie, when I saw it for the first time on like, you know,
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cast and crew screening in 2024, They showed basically like an editor's cut,
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like a first cut of the film.
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I mean, I was amazed because it reminded me of Canon films, of PM Entertainment in a good way.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. And that's how I complimented, of course, Tatiana,
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because she was amazing. And I told her right away, you were so amazing in that film.
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But also I complimented Benny Jandra, producer. I told him, you actually did
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a great film. And when it's done, you know, it will make so many people happy.
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And that's the joke, of course, who also wrote all those great music.
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Because music is amazing, you know, in the film as well.
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So my point is, hopefully today you mostly talk to Tatiana because she was the
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one who, you know, who co-wrote it and starred in it.
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Exec produced it and created a lot of stunts and helped to edit it and everything.
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And me, maybe I will join the conversation as well when we talk a little bit
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about the business side.
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Because remember, we're always in our conversation, we're talking about the
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business side, me and you.
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Because for your audience, it's also very important to understand.
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But again, to clarify, I joined in 2024. I was working on a film for more than
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a year. And now, yes, it's on NBCUniversal Zoom.
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In three months, it will be on Prime Video. So right now in Cannes,
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they're closing all the international deals.
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So everything is perfect on budget, by the way.
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For what they did yeah budget was in six
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figures you know and we both know being you
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that it doesn't matter maximum impact cost seven million
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dollars but it was like it looked like 20 million
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dollar picture this one looked like a
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billion dollar picture and it doesn't matter if they spent you
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know half a million or a little less my point is
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they did an amazing job and uh tatiana
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in in the center of it i mean she deserved i mean
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i love her and maybe i'm a little subjective but actually
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not because she's not she's just amazing in the film so
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thank you again for a review i will shut up and
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that's okay yeah no no a little bit
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later no no no that's cool no but it's interesting to
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put that in context because that with you
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being with your name being attached that people might assume that
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you're the one that pulled all of the elements together so that's
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that's very interesting for the audience to take note that
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uh the the good lady that is our guest here
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is is a is the prime mover of this
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project so so tatiana wearing all
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the different hats at once you're the star of this movie you
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co-write it you co-edit it you co-produced it you co-co-co do it all was that
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did that make the experience of making the film a pleasure more pleasurable
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experience knowing that you had so much control over all these different elements
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or was it more daunting experience?
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Oh my goodness it absolutely made it a
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dream come true because it didn't start that way
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it started with dr choker coming up with
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an idea and immediately deciding that the
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only actress is going to do it with is myself because
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he saw the match between me and
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the character the way that he saw the character and he wanted that synergy to
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translate on the screen so So I came on board initially as a lead actress and
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none of this other stuff was in the picture and even in the talks.
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But as we progressed forward, I contributed with fight choreography,
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which I normally do on my action projects.
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But I rarely, I don't know if I ever got credited for fight choreography before,
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but I can pinpoint in every project like that was my idea that was my idea that
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was my idea but it's just kind of normal for people to pitch in with ideas but
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there's usually just fight career one fight choreographer and one stunt coordinator
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sometimes it's going to be the same person.
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We don't usually get credited for it but
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dr choco was really gracious and he gave
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everybody credit for contributing with fight choreography and we had some you
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know amazing people when it comes to from the stunt community working on the
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project who really knew what they were doing so we naturally all pitched in
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to our surprise we got credited and then there were some,
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moments that some ideas that i came up with as i was reading the script.
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And i approached doug and i said hey i have some ideas to
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run by you i don't know if you're going to like them or not and he was
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still in the process of writing and he we
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were still in pre-production and he was like yeah run them
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by me send send them over i sent them i
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sent him some of my ideas you know like of how to expand the script disclose
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certain things about the character you know the character's arc and stuff like
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that he loved them he asked me do you think you can Write it up as In the form
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of a script You know Can you write up the scene.
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I was like Yeah absolutely And so I write it up And I send it over And he loves
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it And he goes like I'm gonna need you to sign The writer's contract I was like,
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Really? Like what? Like I did not see it coming. I was not doing it for credit.
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I did not think It was gonna go there.
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I just wanted to offer some ideas That I thought would be beneficial for the
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project because my only My only desire was to benefit the project the benefit
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the movie and you know, can be of use be helpful and.
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He's just the kind of person, you know, he's a person of integrity So like
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if you do the work He wants you to get properly compensated and he wants you
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to get properly credited And there's not a lot of that going on I only know
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two people in the industry that not three three people in the industry that
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done that and then Alexander being Does another one of them?
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So it's like I was I was as shocked as it's you know as one can be and,
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Things just kept piling up like every time I did something extra for the project
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you know like i got credited for it and and
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then i brought alexander on board and he literally
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helped finish the movie and get distribution and
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uh this is how i got the
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official uh credit of the
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executive producer you know by by
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doing so even though i did like other things for
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the production before but this this
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was what made it enough you know like i've done enough to
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to earn the the honor of have that title and yeah like there were few things
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that i've done that i did not take the credit for because i didn't think it
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was necessary but it was really nice to get that kind of validation and recognition
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i'm really grateful to dog for it hmm.
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I mean, do you feel that it makes a film better when the filmmakers have such a,
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not so much a sparse control of the project, but so much love that they wish
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to contribute in multiple facets and not just the sole area of their expertise,
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which is to say as an actor,
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as a cinematographer, as the composer, right?
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They wear multiple hats because they wish the best and to see the project realized
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in the best possible way it can be. I think it depends.
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It's very individual. I think on some projects, it's very highly beneficial
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because if it adds value to the final product and if it makes it into something.
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If those contributions make it into something that is pleasing to the audience
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in the end of the day, yes, absolutely.
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I don't think it's appropriate in every single situation,
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but what I do appreciate and
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respect about doug is that he always
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like he's always flexible and open to
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feedback and open to ideas and he will take whatever the good idea and he will
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accept it and here let me let me get in with my broken english again because
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uh let me tell your audience uh again ken because you know it You know it very well,
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but it's very important to have a professional team.
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It's great if one person can produce, can act, can write music.
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Can help with distribution deal, whatever. It's all amazing. Yeah, yeah.
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If you cannot do all those things yourself, you have to find professionals who will help you.
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And in Tatiana's case, I mean, she did tremendous work on that project,
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but she also was lucky, not only because she was acting with her idol,
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childhood idol, Cynthia Rothrock, and she will tell you about that.
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But also, she had great directors because Doug and Benny, they did a great job, you know.
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And Benny Jandra, as a producer, he was the one who I was working with for a
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year and a half when film was already done.
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And as you know, as you know, Kent, to find a person who will continue to push
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when all fun is already over.
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Right, yeah, yeah. You're not shooting anything.
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Right, right. A lot of money already spent, right? No guarantee in the future.
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You know how it is. You have to recruit.
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So many filmmakers would stop. And I saw so many talented people who would stop
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because they kind of forgot that who cares, I mean, how talented they are.
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Who cares what they have in the camp.
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It's up to them to continue to push, you know?
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And for, you know, Benny's credit, you know, I've worked with him for a year
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and a half, and he really helped with everything he could have.
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And I brought my editor, great editor, Cody Miller, who actually is working
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with me since Maximum Impact.
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He edited Maximum Impact, which was a huge production. He edited all my westerns
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and the horror picture, which I produced.
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And he actually helped a lot. he worked with distribution team because they
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had some ideas how to make film even more commercial you know even more.
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Actiony and everything so my point is Tatiana did an amazing job but also she and her,
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team they got also lucky because they were
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all professionals they didn't have amateurs
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in their team it's very important you know
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like in whatever in basketball i always prefer like
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boxing or bodybuilding but in team sport you know when you play against another
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five people and four people in your team are great but one is not yes you will
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lose and it doesn't matter how great you are one of you is a bad player.
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So you will lose if they have five great players in front of you.
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Oh, you're only as strong as your weakest link, as they say. Exactly, exactly.
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So going back to what Tatiana just said, I mean, Doug is an amazing guy and
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he also, he directed with Benny.
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They directed it together and of course he helped to produce,
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you know, and he organized a lot of things with Benny. He created great music.
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And most importantly for me, it was him who really, you know,
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supported Tatiana mostly in this production.
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And he was always on her side.
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And I'm sure he will listen to that interview. So thank you, Doug.
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Thank you from me and from Tatiana. Yes, thank you very much, Doug.
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Exactly. Thank you, Doug. And of course, thank you, Benny. And thank you,
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Cynthia and all the cast and crew.
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Because, you know, in my opinion, it's an amazing starting vehicle for Tatiana.
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And yes, she's amazing and she's in the center of it.
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But also there is a great team behind her.
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Yeah. And I, look, I feel exactly the same way as you did, obviously,
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watching it for the first time.
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I'm like, wow, this is like a throwback to the great action pitches,
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canon pitches made back in the day.
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And they were all theatrical, by the way. You know, they put them in theaters
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back then, back in the 80s. Yeah.
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Yeah. And it was just, I mean, I was just staggered. Like I've,
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I've heard producers like who have read my script say, oh, we can't do this
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and we can't do that. And that's too big.
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That's impossible, whatever else. And then I watch a movie like this and I go, well, that's crap.
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Look, they did it. There's a snow battle. I mean, she come, I mean,
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one, another favorite scene is, is Tatiana.
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You get to come out at the end with, uh, with old painless with the, uh.
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The the minigun what was it like oh
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yeah you actually did you actually fire are you
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actually firing firing that or is it is it
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no no no all of the all of the weapons were in the exact replicas they were
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all okay the replicas yeah yeah but i thought i was about to say what was it
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like to to fire the no no no no the minigun i i honestly i've never fired a
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real minigun but i heard that It has like a super,
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well, personal, this thing was like really heavy. We need to get Jesse Ventura on here to find out.
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Yeah. From Predator. Yeah.
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But was it heavy though, even though it was a replica? It was so heavy. It was so heavy.
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See, Alex, you would have benefited for being there, for carrying that around
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for her while she was, you know.
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I could have, but Tatiana still looked much better than me or even Jesse Ventura with it.
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But please, Tatiana, go on. Yeah, no, please carry on. Yeah.
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Yeah but it was really fun to have that experience because actually all of the
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weapons that you see in the movie doug tracked them down and found them and
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purchased them from different parts of the world.
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Like don't ask me how and it took him a long time to,
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collect all of those and they are like they look legit like they are i bought
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i bought it completely i thought she's firing that Wow,
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she's still standing on her feet, but it was it was hard.
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It was hard. And I, I, you know, I love firearms, you know, I'm a big,
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you know, like the Second Amendment.
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Enthusiasts and i've shot different
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things at different fire like professional fire ranges all
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over the country and all over the world and a lot
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of the weapons that we used in this production i've actually had experiences
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real life experiences firing those in actual fire ranges so that actually helped
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me sell it yeah but i gotta say that yeah the minigun and the rocket launcher or,
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you know, those are like my personal favorites because I was like,
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you don't get to do this every day.
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You know, like not every movie will even have those, you know,
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like it was, it was a fun, fun addition.
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And I tell you, even though Cynthia Rothrock is in this movie,
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I know she's your idol and she kicks up and she's been kicking up a storm for years.
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You kick up quite a bit of a storm in this. What was it like doing all those
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fights where you're, you know,
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Spinning flying kicks and catching guys with your legs in midair and stuff like that.
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What was it like doing all that crazy matrix fighting?
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Milo Jovovich kind of Resident Evil action kind of stuff. What was it like doing all that?
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Flying around? So much fun. First of all, thank you for comparing me to Milo
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Jovovich. Literally one of my other idols.
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I absolutely adore her. And she's such a sweet lady.
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I actually got to meet her under very strange
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circumstances i was audio rappelling at the
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beach and she had a magazine cover
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shoot right underneath so when i run down the mountain and
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i come up to her and i was just telling my crew we were filming an
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action scene i was literally fighting a guy on
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the side of the mountain with our you
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know like audio rappelling you know like it was
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like a really unusual thing unfortunately i don't
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have any footage from that day and there's a photo shoot going
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on below but mila jovich saw
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that and before before she even before they even set up when we started filming
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i was sharing with the crew i was like you know what you guys like this is something
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i've been dreaming to do since i saw second resident evil i wanted to do aussie
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style repelling and to do a fight aussie style repelling it was like completely.
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Like an incredible and spirits i couldn't even imagine that
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as possible and all of a sudden you know a few hours later we keep filming take
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after take and they're like oh my god that's milo jovich down there i'm like
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and i thought they're messing with me because i literally just told them that
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she's the reason why i always wanted to do this so they're like look i'm like
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very funny and then they look down and i'm like.
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Oh my god like and i mean i have pretty good eyesight
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but like she was far away i'm like could it be that is
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her i ran down the hill and she was
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obviously like looking up at us like this and i
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ran down the hill i'm like i'm gonna go say hi yeah and i
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walked up to her and she was so gracious like like
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they were losing light they needed that national light like it was
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golden hour you don't you don't mess with that like you shoot
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when it's golden hour you you don't lose the light right but
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she took literally like she probably spoke to me for five minutes
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which is a lot at that time right yeah and she spoke
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to me and she was like what you're doing up there you're kicking ass like
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this is amazing and i was like this you have
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no idea how much it means to me to hear that because i literally
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always wanted to do it because of you you were the first person that
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i ever saw do something like that and like seeing
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you here right now like you have no idea how much it means to
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me and yeah like we had like a really nice exchange and
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and then we went back to filming and she went back to shooting her
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cover really amazing amazing lady really
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so graceful like wonderful stories ladies and gentlemen but thank you very much
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for complimenting tatiana on all her kicks maybe tatiana you will tell a little
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bit about how did you train and how you really you know perform in these scenes
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well no but we want to talk about yeah come on yeah what.
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Was that what was the regime like going into what is
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the regime like going into any action picture for
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a for a performer such as yourself well i
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do i do training you know like on a regular basis when
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it comes to you know like basics basic kicks
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basic movements you know stretching stamina all that stuff like that's ongoing
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but for this particular movie when we were in pre-production and Doug showed
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me some of the stuff that he wanted to do for the fights he literally had this compilation of.
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Like moments from jackie chad movies jet
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lee movies bruce lee movies from all
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those different like iconic martial arts world-renowned
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action stars and they were like showing
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me all this stuff there was vam dam you know like everybody who
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is anybody in action right and they were like we would like to do like this
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something like this something like that can you do this kind of they were like
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asking me like what they were trying to you know figure out like how far can
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we push it what can we do looking at all this i was like well like it's ambitious,
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it looks ambitious it looks challenging and i'm
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honored to even be you know like ask that question you're like can you do what
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gently does i'm like i don't know but let's find out you know you don't know
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until you try and we went into training and i was like i am willing to try Every
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single one of those moves that you want to do and those who that I actually do.
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Well, you know Like we will incorporate into a fight. Okay, no problem.
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So I learned like several Different new moves that I've never done before like
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this where cake with standing like on one hand.
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Like I did two different split cakes taught to me by Martin Chen who is actual,
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black belt like i don't even know how many dance
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he has like he has so many black belts he could like make a
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hammock out of them or something yeah like
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we i trained with some really legit people like they're really good at stunts
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martial arts and you know like they really pushed my physicality you know like
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beyond the known limits and i think i think it translated really well on the screen Thank you.
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I believe it all day long. You're an assassin that no one should ever turn their back on.
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And, and the good thing about the, these movies is it ends with a bit of a question
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mark and she's possibly still out there like James Bond. She'll return.
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Ladies and gentlemen, uh, Prey of Wrath is a fantastic action movie.
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Get down to the links in the description because you don't have to wait to watch
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this movie. I personally wish that you would just, at the end of this interview,
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get off and get down to the links in the description and go check it out.
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It brings back all of the best kind of action from an era of explosive action
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cinema and hands-on, in-your-face, fighting snow battles.
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For my money, the best use of a rocket launcher in an action movie,
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certainly that I've seen in recent memory. My guests have been the mighty Alexander
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Nevsky and the beautiful Tatiana Neva.
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You're an unstoppable team here, Hollywood Storm.
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It's been great having you on Cinema U. Thank you.
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Thank you. Thank you very much for all your support. Thank you.
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And I just hope that you will also post your great review.
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I will. I will put it in the start.
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Before people will hear Tatiana's perfect English and my broken English and
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your English with Australian accent, they will also read great review which you wrote.
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So I thank you for all your support again, my friend.
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And yes, film is on Xumo Play, NBCUniversal Xumo Play in North America.
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So it's streaming for free in three months.
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It will be on Prime Video, not just in the United States, but in Australia and
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New Zealand, United Kingdom and Ireland and all the world.
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So i just hope i just hope
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that you know that your audience will enjoy
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it that's what i will hope and thank you again for your support yes
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we're out to play get down to the links in the description there is absolutely
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no reason why you cannot get into the action and see one of the greatest emerging
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action stars since mila jovovich tatiana neighbor she is something to behold
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and She certainly knows what to do with a bazooka,
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even though she's fired the round.
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She's unstoppable, irrepressible, awesome to see.
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Tatiana Nava, Prey of Wrath. Get down to the links now in the description.
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And as always, my little Eugenites, thank you for listening to us on Spotify,
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I'm Kent Hill. And until next time, you've been listening to us on Cinema U-GAME!