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- Scott Miller: Hi folks and welcome to the Political Matrix News. I'm Scott Miller and this is my partner, Greg Fink. we are longtime political consultants who I mean, we've been working in this in racket, good lord. for thirty years of Greg Fink: Good evening. One faster or the other, yeah. One faster than the other for almost forty years. I mean, you know, we're both the scenes for a long time. I mean, I know a lot of other consultants they like to count all their volunteer time Scott Miller: Yeah, well. No. No. been getting paid for thirty years, so ⁓ there you go. I mean it didn't start out as much but it's a but it was something and it was i I was getting paid more than everybody else. But Greg Fink: As their experience. Yeah, me too. There's a little bit. Yes, a little bit. And I was more or less on the behind the scenes ⁓ doing entertainment for these guys and watching all the all the cloak and dagger parties where ⁓ everybody's an enemy on the media and but they love each other. The crab the the crab oil. The crawfish oil. Scott Miller: I mean y you know, but between the people that are paranoid about you know you know, about who ⁓ you know, who's at their events and and the ones that are oblivious to the fact that there are opponents at ⁓ you know opponent supporters at their events, it's certainly a comedy. I remember I remember this one guy, then you rem I know y I'm not gonna say his name, but you know y you know this one guy that was that that had this fundraiser at a at this at had this ⁓ fundraiser at the at the home of a of a millionaire or a multi-millionaire and was sitting there telling people that hey if you've already maxed out contributing to me you can go see this guy over here in the corner and you can give the pack until your heart's content. And I'm like you know and sitting there telling one of his one one of his people, I said, look, you know you can't be saying stuff like that. You don't know who's here. He says, ⁓ no we we know everyone that's here. I says ⁓ Okay. ⁓ Greg Fink: Got a blessing. Until you don't. Yeah. Scott Miller: until you don't. Just ca just because you think they're supporting you doesn't mean they're actually supporting you. Greg Fink: Yeah, 'cause actually had a conversation with somebody here last week about, you know, candidates having PACs and about candidates having their own packs and so on and so forth. And a lot of that comes up every single election cycle. And and they do. The difference is that ⁓ a PAC ⁓ coordinating and directing it are two totally different things. Now, you know, I mean i you're supposed to keep at arm's length and everything and ⁓ not have any I mean, you can have knowledge of what they're doing, but you can't have any influence over what Scott Miller: Yeah. Greg Fink: anything about it. And it's pretty a good idea not to have any knowledge as well. It's just worry about your own daggum campaign and let the people in the pack handle their own thing and let the ⁓ let the messaging be independent of the campaign. Now granted there's a lot of times where PACs will endorse candidates and PACs will and so and that that's ⁓ and that's wonderful. But it's very careful on how the nuances of the semantics are used on the mailers or on the audios or on the videos and you had to be extremely careful with that and that's where people only get in trouble if somebody says, How come these guys never get in trouble? I'm like, ⁓ they only get in trouble if somebody knows to to turn ⁓ in or knows to complain about it and then they had to have the wherewithal and the financial resources to go after it and so on and so forth. That's a lot of work to go after it, but if you screw up, somebody will come to get you. Scott Miller: And and that is it. I mean, can you legally open your own pack? Well, I mean you can. as far as the problem is when you start by the time you figure out a way to use it effectively, you don't know what when you've crossed the line until you've crossed the line. And that's usually when someone sends you a sends you a notice that you have an active complaint that's being investigated. ⁓ And fact of the matter well, actually, well no, with election campaign, even with with with PAC ⁓ Greg Fink: Yeah. Scott Miller: PACs and stuff like that, they're still not going to going to investigate it until after the election. So the really sucky part is is that if you you know, if you have a pack and files a complaint, you're gonna go through the entire election cycle and nothing's gonna happen. And then at the very end, you're gonna go you're gonna have to go and deal with it then. And sh my cousin had to go had to go in front of one of those boards. It was twenty thousand dollars. I think it was for having the wrong disclaimer on his yard signs. Greg Fink: Yeah. I mean ⁓ and and and and to let people know, I mean, the ways complaints work are they're usually a three or four, five, six month thing. Now if you only have if you started early in the campaign and you get complaints filed against you and you've got like a year and a half, two years before the election, that's one thing. You probably will investigate during the process of a campaign. But at this stage of the campaign when you have less than ninety days before the election, I mean it's it's probably gonna be a very long stretch. Scott Miller: Yeah, yeah. Well, the government don't work that fast for anything. I mean if you if you haven't figured that out by now, you probably shouldn't be voting anyway. You definitely shouldn't be running for anything. Greg Fink: Yeah. Well yeah, that that's that's very true. And so I mean it's it it's it's gonna be an interesting year. I mean, ⁓ I think ⁓ races are starting to get cranked up for twenty twenty eight already. And there's a lot of races getting cranked up for that and for the presidential cycle. And yes, Trump is not running for president again. Right, but he keeps saying that the king is gonna stay the king, he's not. Yeah, he got the Iran ⁓ they that for fundraising and clickbait. Scott Miller: Mm-hmm. They just say that for their f they just say that for fundraising. Man, he he ⁓ Yeah, and and and and and he's trolling them. You know, when JD Vance went to the view yesterday, I thought that was or ⁓ yesterday or the day before, I forget which one it was, but you know, the video I s was when I saw it yesterday. And women were so y you know, for all their tough talk and chest beating and stuff like that, they ⁓ are y he came in and Joy Behart says, he's kinda tough. Yeah. Greg Fink: That's because the the funny thing about J D is that before they loved him. And before he became a Trump guy and he wa he was a Trump hater and he has all the anti Trump part and everything else, that they loved J D at the time. Scott Miller: Mm. Mm-hmm. They said he should run for either ⁓ or Goldberg. Whoopi Goldberg, one of the two said that he should run for president. They hate it if he ran for president. I'm like, Really? That yeah, so so so you're you're you're loud, loud, loud doing this on the T V, but when it comes to someone actually in your face, well it's a different conversation. Greg Fink: Thanks for your permission. I think it's gonna be interesting a JD Vance ticket and a Rubio ticket. I think it's gonna be interesting to see how much they separate themselves from Trump how much they just realize that trying to recreate Trump's personality is not a possibility. And so they should just be themselves. I mean, I think you and I've talked about so many times that authenticity is what's really driving right now. People want that's the reason why there's all these millions of podcasts out there. People want to see real people talk and It's I mean and they they don't like the whole fake show that has been in historic and Pensac I mean and political advertising for decades. They they really like the raw feel. I think that's what J D and Rubio is gonna bring to the table if they just be themselves. Scott Miller: Well, I don't think that you know you know, Trump well, as we've said n numerous times, only Trump can be Trump. And I don't think that ⁓ that that JD or Marco are even entertaining the thought of b of being like Trump in their campaigns. They're going to be themselves. But the nice thing is, is that by the time they get to run a national campaign again. Greg Fink: Exactly. No. Scott Miller: They will have ⁓ you know really come into their own as ⁓ national figures. Greg Fink: Exactly, yeah. Yeah, 'cause people keep on saying that Trump has polluted them or he has corrupted them or he has tarnished them. I'm like, guys, I mean everything that Trump does that's good is credited to him. Everything that Trump does is crazy is credit to him. Everything that he does that's you know, that people do or don't like, Trump owns what he does. And that's one of the reasons why he changes his mind and 'cause I mean he can change his mind. I mean he actually acts like a human. And you know, he's ac acting like a robot. Scott Miller: Well ⁓ well yeah he he has acts like your crazy uncle, but still he's ⁓ you know, the fact that you know the fact of the matter is is that the ⁓ the the desperation on these people to find anything get traction against him is i ⁓ is hilarious and disgusting at the same time. Greg Fink: He does. Exactly. What we see here with Trump and Biden both, I'll throw both in the same mix, is that what we see in the in the psychological outlook of both of them on societal level is that we've had social media at the height of its level before and everybody we haven't had so so many different cameras or microphones like anybody, any two presidents since we have since twenty twenty with COVID. And also at the same time, before Trump, basically the other presidents were More less robots of the state. And that's not being mean, that's just being factual. I mean, they didn't have independent thought. They were basically controlled by advisors, controlled by, you know, everybody around them, and controlled by, you know, special interests. And and that's, you know, good, better, indifferent. Republican or Democrat is that way, you know, period. And there weren't any of these guys just going out changing their minds at the last minute. Now, like Biden, don't like Biden. You know, he changed his mind. Thinking there's probably a lot of reasons why he changed his mind a lot, you know. I mean he he probably had no idea what he heck he was doing. And we actually really have no idea to this day if he was actually in charge of anything that he did. But so Biden's a a different case, you know. Scott Miller: Well well well Bi Biden's a different thing over the last couple over you know, ⁓ I I think he was reasonably in charge of his first you know, as in charge as he was ever ever been on the first half of his first term. You know, the f th those first couple of years. I mean he he was slipping but I don't but he was I think, you know, y you know, they hadn't established you know, their pro procedures that made it so they could, you know, ⁓ be in char ⁓ be in charge. But I think that Biden you know where Biden went you know, went off the rails was was you know, the cadre around him w he just went off the rails with these people just by because he you know Greg Fink: Right. Scott Miller: Actually, let's frame it this way. You know, all of the presidents we've seen and all these national figures and national politicians, they were steeped for their basically their entire career in politics. I mean, there are very few of them that came from the real world and c and into politics. And because of that, they are, you know, they've had themselves, you know, certain behaviors beaten into themselves. You know, the consultants and their staff members just say, you will do this. Greg Fink: Right. Scott Miller: Because you don't do this, you're not going to be in office next year. It's just that simple. And they just say it like that, and it becomes this conditioned reflex. Versus Trump, who has been successful his whole life, when you know, even when he's even when he's gone off the rails a little bit, it was only a detour because he was able to get himself back on the run back on the track. And that's just that that's just how he is. And that's why Trump can do these things with reckless abandon and say these things just you know, as as come out of his mouth come into his mouth, they come out of his mouth. Greg Fink: Yeah. Exactly. Scott Miller: Come in his mind, they come out of his mouth. And it's just bec yeah, yeah, I see it's just because that's who he is. And that's how he was, that's how his personality developed. Greg Fink: Yeah that's ex Exactly. And whenever people tell us that this is the first time it's ever happened, they and they are correct. This is the first time in modern history we have ever seen a president come from the private sector who has not been, you know, and bound by all the political yeah you political you know, and circumstances and everything and pageantry that ⁓ that builds whenever you're mayor. Scott Miller: Mm-hmm. Greg Fink: then you become a state rep or state senator and a US senator, then a governor, then a president, and and so on and so forth. I mean, they followed all this political pedigree and all these ⁓ protocols and every so so on and so forth. And we haven't had that yet. That's the reason why it's the first time you're ever gonna see it, because it's the first time we've seen it. It's the first time it's happened in in modern media history. Now it might have happened before. I'm sure we had other presidents that didn't have that political pedigree, but we didn't have cameras on them. We didn't have microphones everywhere and we did not have the journal ⁓ journalistic ability to ⁓ chronicle every single thing that they're doing like we do now. And so yeah, it different? Is it new? It sure as heck is. And I have no if it's a good recipe for later. Scott Miller: I don't know how much the newness really ⁓ really impacts it in my opinion. ⁓ because I want to but because I think that what it really is is the fact that in politics, you know, not only your staff but but but the the other people in the organization, you only have I mean you really as a politician only have direct control over handful of people. And even the president, you know, has direct, direct control. Greg Fink: I don't think it does any. Scott Miller: you know, theoretically over the entire executive branch, but realistically probably two or three dozen people that he that he has absolute total control over. And then the rest of you kind of gotta talk them into coming along. Versus out in the y out in the private sector where, you know, if the doorman is offending your customers, you know, there are a million people along the command chain that can just tell him to get his stuff and go. And in politics you just can't do that. So there's a lot more dragging people along while Trump comes in and just starts running it the way that he's always run it in business, where he says, You're going to do this and if you don't like it, get the heck out. Greg Fink: Yeah. Exactly. And so and and that's where we're at now with the Iran I guess we got a mem memo of understanding, memoranda of understanding, ⁓ O U I guess. And I guess it's gonna be signed by the time this year airs, it'll probably be signed the day after this airs. Scott Miller: Yeah. ⁓ no, it's ⁓ no no it's no it i it the MOU's already been signed. ⁓ I just saw just on a notification. Yeah. The MO no, no, no. The MOU's been signed. Well hold well l let's walk that back. I got a notification that it had been signed. I didn't go ahead and l ⁓ and read the story, so maybe that's just some some BS clickbait. So you don't know. But you know, I'm getting I'm getting I'm getting notifications that it's that it's signed, so I guess we'll see. Greg Fink: the final agreement's been signed? I thought they were gonna be doing it on a Friday. ⁓ okay. So what's gonna be signed Friday? We don't know. But what seems to be the big d what's the big deal in this thing? I guess s everybody's angry about. I mean, first of all he's ending war, so you're angry about that. he's making peace or angry about the peace. I'm trying to figure out, yeah, I think they're just angry about him succeeding at where they failed so many times. Scott Miller: Well, they're not angry at him succeeding, they're angry at their failure to c ⁓ you know, cut his legs out from under him. Greg Fink: Exactly. It keeps saying, ⁓ he's gonna give ⁓ three hundred billion dollars. He's giving them more money than Obama ever thought about giving him and he's gonna do this and he's gonna do that. I'm like Scott Miller: No. The United States the United United States isn't going to give them a nickel what the un under that agreement. what what the three hundred billion dollars are talking about is a framework to rebuild that country and the contributors to that is not gonna be the United States. It's gonna be the other Arab countries around them. You know, and so what and what the whole point here is here is that everyone's gonna have to play nice, in particular Iran's gonna have to play nice. Greg Fink: No guys. Scott Miller: Trump is going to get his primary objective. And his primary objective is to be able to to control whether or not Iran has a nuclear weapon. And anyone that thinks that that Iran wasn't doing their dead level best to come up with some of nuclear weapon, even if it's just a nuclear dirty bomb, they w they're desperately wanting to get something like that because ⁓ all ever been able to do is just You know, they're they're like a hysterical girlfriend. You know, they they they they throw a fit every time you turn around and that's you you kinda walk on eggshells around her because you just don't want to deal with it right now. Well guess what? There there's a ran. And you know what? May maybe maybe it's a hysterical husband or or a crazy husband, crazy ex, whatever. I I I mean, whoever your romantic partner is, ⁓ know, they they they all g they all go crazy from time to time and ⁓ and Greg Fink: Gender neutral. They do. Scott Miller: we kind of walk on eggshells around ⁓ because we 'cause we don't want to have to deal with it right now. And that's w how the world has been treating Iran for the last fifty years. Greg Fink: Exactly. They're terrified of them. Scott Miller: I don't even think they're terrified of them as much as they just don't want to deal with it. It's gonna cause consequences. They're gonna you the the price of gas is gonna go up and not everyone's gonna be upset about it. So all these all these government officials don't wanna be the one that's blamed for Iran or on a hissy fit and then ca and then being blamed for it back home that you know, w they caused some massive problem in the Middle East that's gonna cause everyone's you know, energy prices to go up. Greg Fink: Right. Yeah, like 'cause today I guess today is ⁓ June seventeenth and we have ⁓ the price of oil is down to ro right around seventy five dollars a barrel now. And it was ninety two dollars a barrel here of just a few days ago. And and so I mean, the economy is that fragile, the whole oil crap thing is that artificial, the pricing and everything, and it's so ridiculous on why the world economy is based on this area here while we are getting energy efficient on our own we are in energy ⁓ independent on our own. Scott Miller: No. Greg Fink: And so I think I think hopefully we're gonna be seeing a tide turn to where it doesn't really matter if they have the trade open or closed, that our oil prices and our our economy is gonna still flourish. Scott Miller: Well, a lot these oil prices were kind of h artificially high anyway, and mostly boosted by hysteria. You know, and and and not not so much a not not so much a realistic, you know, expectation of what was gonna happen with the oil supply, but a belief that that because of this the oil the the oil prices are gonna go up. What people didn't know was that that Trump was secretly offloading tankers in the Gulf and then Greg Fink: Yes, they were. Exactly. That's what we see. Exactly. Scott Miller: Piping the oil over to other tankers. And so we never really lost that much of the oil supply. We lost some, but the reason the oil prices didn't go to $200, $200 a gallon was because that oil was coming out of the Gulf anyway. They just didn't know it. So Yeah, that's yeah, that's that that was never gonna happen. And the only reason it got as high as it did was because speculators believed. And and and you know what? Greg Fink: Yeah, two hundred a barrel would have been high. Exactly. Scott Miller: Given the information available to them, it wasn't un for them to believe what they believed. But it just you know that just couldn't get couldn't get the prices up like they wanted it to. That you know, the the people that want you know, the longs, the people want to go long on oil, ⁓ you they wanted that oil to go up and they were the and they were selling this narrative as hard as they could because they truly believed it. It just wasn't ⁓ didn't to be true. Greg Fink: Right. Which is sad. Right. And so that's where we're at with the ⁓ whole thing here with Iran. It looks like ⁓ we got peace coming and it's good and I think it's gonna you know, at this stage of the game I don't think it's gonna be peace regardless and I mean people are see keep saying that what did we win or what did we take away? I'm like I you know, i this is not a standard war where we went in to go try to take territory. We didn't. We we went in there to try to decimate their ability. Exactly. We're we're we're this not a Scott Miller: Well, we don't do that. Greg Fink: a war about territory or expanding our our bow bo boundaries. This is a war about disintegrating their ability to have nuclear weapons and to make sure that the uranium that they're drilling for is not accessible to their country anymore for them to pirate, sell, create or use or or whatever they're doing with it. And so we that goal. Scott Miller: No, it no, it was a war to take away their ability to threaten their neighbors. So th they they have basically, you know, p e every major munition that they had is gone. ⁓ you know, it's ⁓ so so they can't do that. They're you know, we're you know, within ninety days we'll have full control of their of their ⁓ of their nuclear material, what it whatever it happens to be. I mean, some of that may be plutonium. Greg Fink: Mm-hmm. ⁓ builder. Exactly. And we achieved our objective. Scott Miller: I don't know if they I don't know if they have the type of breeder reactor that they have to have to make to make that happen. but it's certainly highly enriched uranium. And so they're not gonna have that. So at the end of the day, they're just gonna wind up, you know, ⁓ being a threat threat to their neighbors. And more most importantly, put one of the conditions of this thing is they have they have got to cut off funding to all these terrorist terrorist groups. Greg Fink: Exactly. Basically, don't kill people. Scott Miller: But you know so Trump hasn't successfully, you know, taken away the you know some of the most destabilizing money sources in in the world. You know, the organizations that have been directly responsible for destabilizing governments all over the planet, with Venezuela, gone, you know, Iran, gone, USAID, ⁓ gone. people don't people don't really appreciate. Greg Fink: Yeah, because Scott Miller: just how much of a destabilizing force USAID was. Looked at in South America now, particularly in Latin America, NGOs that were funded directly by USAID that were directly responsible for l for all these leftist political movements in s ⁓ in America, intentionally destabilizing Greg Fink: Right. And then just follow the money on who actually funds Hezbollah and Hamas. That was all being funded by Iran. And so basically the people who are picking on the ⁓ Middle East through the terrorism throughout Syria and Lebanon and Beirut and Israel and Libya and all those areas that were being driven by Hamas and Hezbollah are now unfunded. And so ⁓ there is one thing actually I will I will bring up. Scott Miller: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Greg Fink: I think is questionable on why Trump said this and ⁓ I th I knew he's being coy. I'm sure you've heard about how he said that Israel wouldn't be anything if it weren't for him. And I I I get I get how he's basically taking credit for Israel being free. Which you know, I mean i ⁓ it's a little controversial, it's a little hubris driven. Scott Miller: And I mean I mean you know the the ⁓ w well yes th they can they can be you know, they can have all the hubris they want. The fact of the matter is that if if it weren't for the billions of dollars of support that the United States sends their way and the direct actions that we've taken over the decades, would have been ⁓ know, lost to antiquity decades ago. So ⁓ Greg Fink: Yeah. That's very true. Exactly. Scott Miller: And and and Trump and Trump basically reversed a lot of Biden policies that still you know that were, you know, eroding that, you know, because and before Trump got here, what what was the call? Free Palestine. I mean, and that was within our government. All right, so so yeah, Tr you know, bringing Trump back definitely reversed that whole free Palestine movement as far as it's the whatever ground it had gained in the United States. Greg Fink: Right. I know, yeah. Yeah. Everybody keeps talking about a two state solution and so on and so forth and I mean th those things I mean those are good theories. I mean I think it'd be awesome if everybody could live peacefully together. I think it'd be great and wonderful. I don't see it being reality. it hasn't been that way since several millennium and don't think for the next see few millennium it's ever gonna be that way. Scott Miller: No. Well you know, what people don't understand w or or don't acknowledge anyway is that Israel you know, I mean they are a Jewish state, technically, but most of people there are not practicing Jews. You know, they don't practice Judaism. They're they're they're Israelis. So so number one, you know, the two state are gonna be a one state solution that'll just get more and more secular over time. Greg Fink: Exactly. Right. Scott Miller: And as soon as these Palestinians learn to get along with people and not you and not try to to manifest the coming of the thirteenth prophet, you know, you know, or or you know, which you know, I I mean it's literally the exact equivalent of what we ⁓ you know the you all the people that that are in these what what do we call them, apocalyptic cults. Greg Fink: Man, if it's war. ⁓ yeah. Scott Miller: I mean, they are they're basically a giant. the Palestinians, the Israeli the the Iranians in particular, they're the drivers of this. Think back in into your years, you're growing up, and there's some wacky preacher down the road that is doing absolutely nothing in the world but preaching about, you know, Revelation Daniel and and and end times and stuff like that. That's who the that's who the Iranians are. And the difference is that the Iranians don't just talk about it. They, you know, the the the churches I w that I, you know, went to when I in in my youth and used to preach about all of that stuff, they weren't trying to manifest it. They were trying to warn you about it. All right. The Iranians are trying to make it happen. And that's the that's the difference. Greg Fink: Exactly. And ⁓ now now my curio just about my ignorance here, what's the difference in I mean, how's the relationship between the Palestinians and the Iranians? I mean, are they pretty much of the same faith? Scott Miller: Absolutely they are. But but more than anything else, I you know what I the they're they're very similar. But regardless what the ⁓ the Palestinian faith is, they're a very useful tool for the Iranians because the Iranians in order to make their little apocalyptic cult work, have to, you know, have to do things to the ⁓ to the Israelis. That therefore the Hamas and the pa and the Palestinians you know are are very necessary to their cause. Greg Fink: Which goes back to this whole thing is that if people just quit trying to kill everybody. I mean, ⁓ I I don't get this whole religion here. I mean, you know, you and I are evangelicals. I mean a in in our world we don't we don't get any favors off murdering the other faith. Scott Miller: No, no, but that that that's that's the difference between us and them. You know, and ⁓ you know, we've we've talked about about this before. In the early days of Muhammad, they you know, he was he was an itinerant preacher and you know, he had these followers that kind of followed him around the Holy Land and and they they did their thing. And he preached peace. Why can't we all just get along and and and tolerance of faith and all these things? Greg Fink: Right. Scott Miller: And then the minute he got an army behind him, that they kicked him out of Medina and he and and he gets an army and comes back and takes Medina and becomes the warlord in charge of it, the minute that happened, his tune changed quick. No more tolerance. Now it's the jizy taxing the non believers and stuff. So Greg Fink: Does Right. Exactly. Scott Miller: It's a very different thing. Greg Fink: It is. And and that's one thing I think we have a lot of context lost and what people really are understanding what's going on. I mean I mean I need to think a lot of the people in D C are till we even know the full context ⁓ deeply. you know, and not to knock on the President's team, I don't think anybody in our establishment really understands how deep this really goes and how important it really is. And It's ⁓ you know, th th there's a lot to it and to oversimplify it like everybody is dangerously doing, is ⁓ you know, it's very curious and risky. Scott Miller: I'm not saying there are that there aren't you know radical here, like like like your moms here that you know that that talk about you know the destruction of the United States, because there are. But people people have the belief, you know, th they they view their journey to go to church or whatever church that they have ever been to, whether they're are regular churchgoers or not. They think that when that the experience that we have in church Greg Fink: Yeah, they are, yeah. Scott Miller: is similar to the experience, you know, different words and stuff like that. And and we we pray about different things that you know, you know, that it's the same just essentially the same as what w as what we do. And it they couldn't be wrong. They couldn't be more wrong. the ⁓ mean this is especially when you get over there. Let I mean let let's just ⁓ put put put a pen in the Muslims that are here. Iran Greg Fink: It's not. Scott Miller: The Middle East is an entirely different animal. We're we're throwing people off of buildings because they're gay is normalized. Greg Fink: Right. Or murdering somebody has an abortion. Scott Miller: Or beating your disobedient wife, which which the Quran specifically ought not only authorizes, but directs husbands to do. So and ⁓ I'm not using that as a way to demonize these people. They do plenty to demonize themselves. I'm just trying to get people to not ignore the these facts, because they are absolute facts. Greg Fink: Exactly. And people are just totally ignoring them and they're they're they're just basically doing everything they can say, ⁓ evil jump, evil jump, evil jump And not realizing that, you know it's just I mean, it's just so frustrating to to watch them blame one person for s every single thing that's happening, not realizing that y ⁓ know, it's actually the terrorists who are who put us in the situation here. Scott Miller: Absolutely. Greg Fink: We're just trying create peace. Okay, we're trying to stop everybody from killing everybody. I mean, that should be a good thing. It shouldn't it shouldn't it shouldn't be anything bad about that. Scott Miller: Two? It should be, but you know they're talking about situations that are ninety percent bad that Trump's makes a Trump makes eighty percent bad, and they're blaming him that it's eighty percent bad as if he caused it to to become eighty percent bad. It was ninety percent bad when he got there. Greg Fink: Yeah no, it's Yeah. It it's very frustrating. But yeah, so let's go ahead and go real quick here to the I wanna about a little bit we interviewed Paul Renner last week and we also had a poll saying and so we we've had a lot of traction on social media saying that we're biased and that we're basically picking sides and picking leaders and our our polls are not accurate and our polls need to be taken with a grain of salt and so on and so forth. And that that's that's cute. Scott Miller: Yes. Greg Fink: That's a wonderful guy's but Scott Miller: cute that I thought it was cute that the people that were saying that our poles w should be taken with a grain of salt were people who had also put poles in the field had only gotten like two or three hundred respondents versus the nine hundred respondents that we got in ours. ⁓ Greg Fink: Yeah. Yeah. the cool thing here is that, yeah, we might be biased people. We might have our own opinions on things, but our data isn't. Our data's pure. Scott Miller: Anyone that tells you that the anyone telling you they don't have an opinion is lying. I mean or or let me let me let me restate that, either has no concept of what you're talking about or is lying. Because once you become aware of the deta details of things, you start to form opinions. Maybe it's a subtle opinion, but you still have one. Greg Fink: Exactly. Yeah. Exactly. But the the the magic and how we do our polling and how we do our data management, our data finding, is that we take all the bias out of it and and basically I mean that's the reason why we have been right. And all the people who want to say we haven't and they're wrong. And that that's okay, you're allowed to be wrong. That's fine. That's cool. You know, you have freedom of speech, you're we're we're right, yeah, freedom to be wrong and th that's great. But the whole idea here is that, you know, the the results matter and Scott Miller: Mm-hmm. Greg Fink: Whenever whenever we look at our track record of calling statewide races or or calling the issues or the at the data and everything, try to compete, give us a shot, you know. You're not going to compete. Scott Miller: Well, like l like I said, you know, you know, if I don't care I I I'm glad they're talking about us. I mean, ⁓ you know, you know, say what you want to say. Everyone that listens to these guys, you know, listens to these guys talk about how biased we are. The person listening to them knows that they're biased. So so my bias, whatever, okay, go ahead. Tell it explain to me how I'm biased. The problem is is that these people, you know, when you them to explain themselves and please Greg Fink: Yeah. They're biased against us. Alright, I yeah. Scott Miller: Please people, when you are doing things, when people when you're talking to unreasonable people who are spouting these stupid, whacked out theories, and if they can't if they can't explain them, can't explain them, they don't have a justification. They're just trying to knock you down to put some space between you and an issue so they can try to come in and weasel their way in. It ain't happening. The numbers are what the numbers are and it and that's all that they are. Greg Fink: Right. No, they don't. Exactly. And so you know, it's ⁓ it it's interesting out there. We got a we got a lot of haters and I really don't care. Scott Miller: I won't. No, I'm I'm I'm glad look at what what they say, if you're not making waves, the boat's not going anywhere. Greg Fink: Or just as long as you spell our name right, that's all that counts. And so but ⁓ but no, it's ⁓ I mean it's ⁓ it's been an interesting cycle here. ⁓ it looks like all the ⁓ candidates did qualify for governor in the race and a few others qualified, that were not in our poll, that were very low down down choices most likely. And we know, it's gonna be a very year for the elections. We have qualifying was last week here in the state of Florida. Scott Miller: That's all I care about. Greg Fink: And so gonna I mean you got Debbie Washman Schultz, she finally did do what ⁓ says she's gonna do. She's running in the the historical district here in Florida ⁓ and that's gonna be interesting because they're all questioning why are you doing it, you only live here. I guess she does live there now with a redistricting. Maybe she doesn't, I don't know. I I don't think the Congress they even care where they live anymore nowadays. I mean heck we got Randy Fine living in Bravard. Scott Miller: Well you're not interested. I don't know. No, because because w Yeah, well where they live is Washington D C. Greg Fink: Exactly. Whether it lives or relevant. It doesn't matter what the address is or statues. Scott Miller: that I mean I mean w w we we had a guy live at ⁓ y yeah you know, holding office in our dist in northwest Florida somewhere that the entire time he was in the legislature, never lived ⁓ lived there. He lived there by virtue of a of a condo that he leased in the district. That's it. Greg Fink: Yeah, we had a school yeah, we had a school board member of the late nineties and early two thousands in ⁓ Scambia County. No, this is a guy too. There's a girl and a guy. So we we've had multiple candidates, is my point. Multiple elected officials here live seven or eight counties away for like, you know, three days a week, four days a week, then come back on the weekend to the county that to the county that they represent. So, yeah, here are school board members and city council people and I mean Scott Miller: ⁓ yeah, I remember her too. okay. ⁓ yeah. Yeah, no, I know what you're talking about. Yeah. Yeah. Greg Fink: It's it's sad thing that if you wanna run to represent your district you don't even wanna live there, but hey, you know, it's Florida politics. And they get away with it and then they don't get away with it. ⁓ Exactly. forty other states are doing it too. And so I mean it's ⁓ i i everybody always wants to say area is the most corrupt. I think the most corrupt is wherever you're at. Because every area has its own corruption. Scott Miller: And politics. Yeah, it's politics in general. Yeah, it it is where exactly. you know, Republican, whatever. If you i if you elected ⁓ to get in there, there there was some funny business along the way. Now how much funny business? All right. Greg Fink: I like to Exactly. It's like Tiff O'Neill says, All politics are local. I like to say all corruption is local. And so Scott Miller: All corruption is local, there's a that's a good ⁓ that's a good way of looking at it. Greg Fink: That's a good tagline. No, ⁓ b because our reality here is that, you know, people keep on asking about and I know the algorithm's gonna kill us on this part here about voter fraud, but throw it out there anyway for the algorithm, free people. is voter fraud is is a local issue. ⁓ it's not a it's not being done at the high levels. And and this is actually ⁓ where I think where Trump is screwing up the narrative is that he he's talking about the high and ⁓ this stuff here and if you just quit about his dagum thing up there and realize it's all local. It's a it's a bottom up deal. Scott Miller: ⁓ California is showing us exactly right now how this cr how this whole procedure works. I mean it is on glorious display out there. No well I mean it you whether contain they're still counting votes. Greg Fink: There's an election going on then? ⁓ Yeah, nobody's talking about it anymore now that now they declare the winners, nobody even gives a crap. Scott Miller: That's right. When when when Spencer Pratt was leading by twenty something thousand votes, you know, it it's too close to call. The second Nithya Raman became you know, got three thousand votes ahead, all of a sudden she's declared the winner. Greg Fink: No Yeah, and we we sent off our information to California, so haven't you heard it? They haven't ca they haven't cashed them in the order. Haven't we? We don't even know if they even got the it or not. I mean, first of all, the whole concept here that California, which is a leading state in the nation, techno logically goes, you have to mail in a form that you had to handwrite with wet signatures and wet writing, and then you had to send so they can get information. Scott Miller: I know, right? Ha ha ha. So the Greg Fink: From you to make sure you're a verifiable company to give data to. And then you also have to give them a money order or well, a paper check if you have a paper check, which I don't know anybody who has paper checks right now has to order ⁓ But ⁓ you know, ⁓ yeah, I'm sure people do. But, you know, but the point is that, you know, that's very archaic. That's very nineteen eighties like. Scott Miller: I don't know. I mean there's a there's a fair. Well but yeah, yeah, yeah, but but i i it's not because they can't do better, it's because they understand by keeping it like this, it's easier to i it's easier to tweak. And in fact, someone's a lot of pe you know, the the the recent narrative in California has really been that there isn't any voter fraud by virtue of the fact that all of the things that they're doing Gavin Noosa made legal. Now, is it dishonest? Absolutely it is. And and and is it Greg Fink: It is. ⁓ that's a good way to say it. Scott Miller: And and and is it you know is it subject to a federal law called you know deprivation of rights under color of law? Absolutely it But when you when you just look at what ⁓ look look at, you know, step by step what they've done, you know, it it is l well when the statutes say that it's okay for you to use a gym membership to register to vote. Greg Fink: ⁓ well, yeah. It's okay. Scott Miller: Or or the other thing, I don't know if you knew this one or not, but you can actually, there's not a visible postmark on the envelope as the voter who's sending it in, you can handwrite the date in and it's legal. The that they could pick up pick up a ballot today that they've seen for the first time today, and with a handwritten postmark on it that the that the person who submitted the is writing, it is considered valid. ⁓ The interesting thing about that is the staggering number of Republicans in California who are saying they're getting notifications that their signature was that had a their ballot was kicked out because of a signature irregularity. Greg Fink: Because they're Republican though. And the rules do not apply to Republicans for that rule. They do not. And and and why should they? I mean they Scott Miller: They do not. They do not. Well th no th they that they do not whether well well the the reason that they don't is because there's a possibility of a Republican winning. So so during years where where you don't have top line Republicans ⁓ on the top of the ballot, then ⁓ well well we we we can fix that. Yeah, but if there's any danger whatsoever, they just have to massage that till it's ⁓ till it works till they want to. Greg Fink: Yeah, Democrat I guess Democrats okay. Scott Miller: Hopefully the people of California are going to get the message, but I'm pretty sure that that a lot of these people do running these elections are going to get them because the feds are out there specifically to start addressing this. And I think I think the think the thing that they're not going to be able to get away with ⁓ get away from is all these Republicans who had their ⁓ who've had their ballots kicked back. Greg Fink: Yeah, kid also But there could be a California statute written right around the corner that says Republican ballots don't count and Democrats and MPAs and others do it. That'll be pretty blazing. I know, and it'll be it's it's silly, but it's not reality. Scott Miller: Well no, no ⁓ no i i i it it it it's ⁓ I mean it's a fun joke to make, but is it ⁓ but it's there's there's no yeah, there there's not a possibility of something like that happening. Because ⁓ because ⁓ a law no, a law like that would be i invalid on its face. Greg Fink: I wanna remain it. ⁓ it will be, yeah. But I mean I I think I think the whole idea that you just like you mentioned before, them removing all the ⁓ guardrails of the voter legality actually does take away the whole concept of voter fraud. I mean, y y y yeah, you're right. It sounds stupid on its face, but whenever you got people using gym memberships, I mean, seriously, to vote? And then they only had to have an ID? They only had to have an ID whatsoever to vote? Scott Miller: Well you're you're ⁓ well Remember we we were trying to get that voter database from California and preparation for that we we looked at some data brokers and when started looking for the number of of voters who had you know, who were likely voters or eighty percent or better voters that also had a phone number, it was like ten thousand names, something like that. Greg Fink: Yeah, I mean it was like three hundred thousand people with w w I mean, for city of LA that were eighty percent but but here's the funny part, is that nobody wore zero percent voters. There's zero of them. I mean it was ⁓ Scott Miller: Yeah, yeah, that yeah. That's honestly maybe the most telling statistic right there. There are no zero percent voters, really. Greg Fink: Yeah, they're all between forty two percent and eighty five percent. Scott Miller: And there's and there there's there there is no innocent explanation for that. There it just isn't. Greg Fink: Scratch your head on that one. I mean i it's a it's a head scratcher. I mean i it's all fraud. And so it also goes back to the whole original thing of when the USDA was asking for all the ⁓ data from the blue states and and people don't really see the correlation here between voter irregularities and data irregularities of citizens and I mean the whole point here is that when the state is hiding something, they're hiding all of it. They're not just hiding parts of it or pieces of it, they're hiding all the data. Scott Miller: Mm mm. Absolutely. Greg Fink: They're hiding it because that's that's where they get their illegal money. That's the way they funnel. Scott Miller: They're hiding it because because the other word for data is evidence. Greg Fink: Exactly. And once they release this part here, a little bit of fraud, a little bit of E B T fraud, a little bit of voter fraud, a little it all kinda goes together. I mean and and then you're you really wonder you find out there's hundreds of billions of dollars missing and billions of dollars missing and maybe almost a half a trillion dollars is missing or maybe a trillion missing or just unlimited amounts because have no idea. Scott Miller: Well, the problem you know, the the problem people have, you know, and and this is the constant refrain from people, show me the evidence, show me the evidence. It is incredibly hard to catch a person cheating at voting. I mean I mean, unless you have a whistleblower, and even then you're not gonna catch like you know, someone, you know, admitting to you know, defrauding a million people out of their vo voting rights. You know, you're you're gonna find three Greg Fink: No you don't think they'll meet to it? Scott Miller: Yeah, you you'll you'll find three to five hundred, maybe, maybe on an extreme case. But the problem is that the courts are reluctant to do anything about it when that's the only data that you have, because it looks like, well, you know, even if that hadn't hadn't happened, the election the results of the election would have been the same. What it means is is that we have no way of knowing how often this happens, and you happen to catch this guy. Well, okay. Greg Fink: Yeah, because it Yeah, 'cause whenever people say, you know, where's the evidence? Where's the data? I'm like, the house has the evidence. The house has the data. It's kinda like going to a casino and like, I really won that slot machine money. No, you didn't. Scott Miller: Well, you don't mean the legislative house, you mean the figurative ⁓ house. Greg Fink: Yeah, figurative yeah, figurative gambling house, exactly. And so I mean and that's the I mean, that's where we're at with this. I mean, you know, the ⁓ first of all the house always wins and ⁓ and in a casino where they have all the money 'cause they always win and they they win out every single time. And when comes to getting data for votes, they have all the votes and they have all the data ⁓ or the thereof or the results and they're they're gonna win out and people like us are dependent upon them to give us the data. We ca we we can't just go break into elections office and go get the data. It doesn't work like that. Scott Miller: Well, I I mean, honestly, I think that you've kinda ⁓ you know, the the casino metaphor is probably the best because a at it's the one that people can understand the best, because that you know, if you don't believe that a system can be rigged statistically so that the house will win, just go to Las Vegas. That you know, the same stati same branch of mathematics that they use to make you know to to make Greg Fink: Ha ha. Exactly. Scott Miller: Las Vegas, this giant Mecca in the middle of the desert, is the same techniques that they use to rig these elections. They they just curate the system until it's such a way that till they've got the you know, just a small advantage, but that small advantage is all they need because it's it it piles, you know, stacks one on top of the other until eventually you wind up with these landslides like they have in California. Or in this case, you know, Nithya Raman, who Greg Fink: It is. Scott Miller: You know, you know, the the narrative that Democrats have always said and the reason they've always said they love ballots is because, you know, Democrats love to love to do mail it in. You know, we're we're they have limited abilities to get to the ballot box, so we need to do that. So they vote early and they vote by mail. Well, if that's true, then all of the early voting and all of the stuff all the mail-in stuff that came in for election day, that they counted for election day. Greg Fink: Yeah. Scott Miller: Sh Nithya Raman had the smallest percentage of of the three of the three leading candidates, she had the smallest percentage. All right. If that's the case, then why is it that every single time they get a new batch of mail-in ballots in, which presumably are Democrats, why is it she's the one that that's winning and not Karen Bass? Why isn't Karen Bass just pulling away with it? And it's because the whole thing's a bunch of BS. Greg Fink: Exactly. Yeah, they gotta make it look good. They gotta make it look towards not too big to rig or or is it too big to rig? Scott Miller: ⁓ yeah, apparent ⁓ apparently it's not too big for them to rig. Greg Fink: No, it's not. I mean, whenever they control the narrative, they control the media, they control the accounting, they control everything in California. So I mean, the cake's already baked. Scott Miller: Yeah. Greg Fink: So anything else you want to talk about tonight? Scott Miller: No, I think that's God's brother. Greg Fink: Okay. Well you guys find us on every platform we're on out there and make comment, have fun with us and see y'all next time. Scott Miller: Like, foll like, follow, and subscribe. Let's hack Google. All right. Like us, follow us, and subscribe. This is how you hack hack the algorithm. By by doing the th one thing they don't count on you doing, it's just pushing that button. So you you guys. Greg Fink: Exactly. Exactly, yeah, 'cause as Scott Miller: you guys come and join us next week for more p of the political matrix news. Greg Fink: Get it.