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Rushion Interviews Egypt Sherrod & Mike Jackson drop in to discuss HGTV series "Married to Real Estate” | Tatyana Ali talks about her acting career and next steps! · The Steve Harvey Morning Show

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Speaker 1: or living your dreams. I guess a longtime friend powerhouse
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Speaker 1: and real estate broker and designer Egypt Shroud and her
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Speaker 1: husband he's new my life, like I've stated it, builder
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Speaker 1: Mike Jackson. They're based in Atlanta. If you can be
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Speaker 1: a dreamer and you want to dream about it, your home,
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Speaker 1: your fantasy, your your place that you want to rest
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Speaker 1: your head and your family, think about the Egypt will
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Speaker 1: designer and Mike will build it. That's a slogan, not
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Speaker 1: buying that stairs. They know plenty by juggling the booming
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Speaker 1: property business, pleasing clients, managing their home and raising three daughters.
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Speaker 1: And they all beautiful dollars, so precious, especially the young
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Speaker 1: one when he has when you have this one scene
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Speaker 1: when he walking around with a pampa in his hand,
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Speaker 1: You're gonna love him. They make it look effortless and
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Speaker 1: fund in a new HDTV series marriedt to Real Estate,
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Speaker 1: available to stream owned Discovery Plus. You can also catch
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Speaker 1: Egypt and Mike's guests judges in the last season or
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Speaker 1: h G t v's mega hit home renovation competition series
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Speaker 1: Rock the Block, where you see four competing teams. You'd
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Speaker 1: also stream Egest previously because you know she's been out there.
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Speaker 1: Mike's a new one. You know, she's she's bringing him
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Speaker 1: into the into the the you know, the hands of
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Speaker 1: behind up here. Now you see why she's happy all
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Speaker 1: the time. Now Discovery plus we're looking at the new renovation.
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Speaker 1: King and Queen King and Queen of Atva. Thank you,
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Speaker 1: ra Sean. We appreciate that love. And you're absolutely right. Um,
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Speaker 1: I've been around you and not we know each other
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Speaker 1: quaite well absolutely, but it's a good but you know
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Speaker 1: something each it's a good being around because all the
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Speaker 1: time I've always seen you. First of all, your personality
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Speaker 1: has been positive. And one thing I've loved about her
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Speaker 1: Michael's death, you know, opportunities. She's not. She's fearless because
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Speaker 1: that's what a lot of people do. Because I met
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Speaker 1: her in radio and so when some people start saying
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Speaker 1: I want to do something else, they can get so
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Speaker 1: locked into and comfortable they don't do it, and so
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Speaker 1: and so so many different levels and so and that
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Speaker 1: was that was that was urban radio that she was
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Speaker 1: in Okay, and then she came to Now she's coming
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Speaker 1: into another area of UM. I want to say, just
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Speaker 1: there's not we don't see many black people won't see
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Speaker 1: many people of color like you two. That's why it's
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Speaker 1: so refreshing to see that. And I like to believe
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Speaker 1: this is something we're gonna see on the regular basis.
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Speaker 1: But in seeing the first two episodes of your new series,
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Speaker 1: Marriage to Real Estate with like we said, there's a discovery.
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Speaker 1: Plus I found a family environment that I was engaged with.
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Speaker 1: But more importantly, this is what y'all do. I never
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Speaker 1: questioned that you guys who are prop I never called
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Speaker 1: you up saying that that's what can happen. You know,
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Speaker 1: they get a cute couple like you guys, you got
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Speaker 1: the cute little children. You know, they said, y'all be
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Speaker 1: a great TV show. It's no doubt in my mind
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Speaker 1: this is what y'all do. But each of I have
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Speaker 1: to go back to this because you know, this is
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Speaker 1: I call this to my masterclass series. Because you're talking
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Speaker 1: about people in a market. Now we all know it's
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Speaker 1: hard to get a home out that nowadays. Okay, it's
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Speaker 1: it's it's sometimes thirty people waiting on the same building
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Speaker 1: and trying to call that home. How did y'all, how
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Speaker 1: did y'all able? How are we all even to do
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Speaker 1: a series and this type of real estate boom where
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Speaker 1: homes are scarce and people are trying to make a
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Speaker 1: decision on different properties while you're doing the show. So Rishwan,
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Speaker 1: you know I'm a real estate Broker's what I've done for,
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Speaker 1: you know, twenty years, And that also means that I've
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Speaker 1: lived through and strived through and grew through every real
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Speaker 1: estate environment. You know, when the bubble bursts and you know,
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Speaker 1: people were losing their houses and needed to be saved
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Speaker 1: with short you know, from foreclosures with short sales. I
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Speaker 1: coached them through it and help clients through that. Now
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Speaker 1: we're in an environment where first time home buyers are
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Speaker 1: being edged out completely. Even experienced home buyers are like
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Speaker 1: one of thirty different offers and listings are going for
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Speaker 1: fifty sixty seventy thousand over acts the price. I mean,
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Speaker 1: it's crazy out here right now, But I think that
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Speaker 1: this is what I've been built for, if that makes sense.
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Speaker 1: All these years of working through, living through, existing through,
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Speaker 1: buying through when evading through in our own lives has
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Speaker 1: prepared us for this moment where we can help our
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Speaker 1: clients through. And there if I if I told you
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Speaker 1: the house and I would be I would be giving
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Speaker 1: away all my tricks of the trade when I go
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Speaker 1: up against other offers. So I won't go there. But
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Speaker 1: what I will say is stay encouraged. And if you're
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Speaker 1: in the market to buy a home, make sure all
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Speaker 1: real estate agents were not created equal. They were not.
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Speaker 1: You take a you take a class, you get a
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Speaker 1: license if you pass the test. But what you want
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Speaker 1: is a season to experience shown improving real estate professional
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Speaker 1: who can coach you and come up with a strategy
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Speaker 1: to help you, you know, get successfully to the finish line.
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Speaker 1: Great now, Mike, you know when I google Egypt, you
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Speaker 1: know a lot of things pop up, pictures, photos, you's
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Speaker 1: posing this way, posing this way, television show, television show,
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Speaker 1: you know, extention background in the entertainment, you this business,
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Speaker 1: or I just see a reference to a business. Give
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Speaker 1: us a little background on your journey into a home building,
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Speaker 1: renovations and uh in this market, and so we can
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Speaker 1: get an assist your culture and your expertise. Definitely, definitely.
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Speaker 1: So I've been in construction, I would to say since
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Speaker 1: I was a kid. You know, I started with my
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Speaker 1: uncle and my grandfather. They had a construction company and
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Speaker 1: they would always bring me along. Um future forward, I
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Speaker 1: started with the local twenty eight trade in New York
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Speaker 1: City where I was a journeysman for sheet metal work, right,
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Speaker 1: and then I transitioned into owning my own company, which
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Speaker 1: is Jackson Draper Renovations, where we pretty much do it
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Speaker 1: all carpentry, plumbing, electricity, um, you know, exterior work, all
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Speaker 1: of the above. It's myself and my uncle, my partner
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Speaker 1: which is um you'll see him on the show as well.
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Speaker 1: His name is Mark. And this is what I do.
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Speaker 1: You know, my wife and I were teaming up what
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Speaker 1: you'll see it in the show where we're trying to
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Speaker 1: merge the two businesses under one umbrella, you know, bringing
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Speaker 1: real estate, construction designs, one design house. But you gotta play.
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Speaker 1: You gonna tell the shown as we're trying. I don't
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Speaker 1: think he knows the story that that's how we met.
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Speaker 1: It is how yes, thank you, thank you kept his
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Speaker 1: brother out like you do on the show. Anyway, that
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Speaker 1: it's not that I was trying not to take up
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Speaker 1: too much of the time. Like I said, this is
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Speaker 1: a masterclass we're teaching. We're educating people about this beautiful couple.
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Speaker 1: Here's what was on my mind is why I didn't
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Speaker 1: want to talk too much about me because I wanted
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Speaker 1: to piggyback off of the discussion you brought up in
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Speaker 1: the beginning. As far as we're not meaning feeless, she's
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Speaker 1: beyond not feelings. She's also selfless. She's despite to wear.
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Speaker 1: She doesn't worry about what everyone else is gonna think,
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Speaker 1: despite of what it's cool or despite what's hot at
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Speaker 1: the moment, She's gonna do what's gonna make sense for
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Speaker 1: her and what it's going to be successful for those
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Speaker 1: around her, meaning family. It's not about the business or
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Speaker 1: the hype of the business. It's about, Okay, what's smart
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Speaker 1: for the moment and what's gonna make sense in the future.
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Speaker 1: So that's what I wanted to touch on. That's why
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Speaker 1: I can go for much into I'll keep you. Thank
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Speaker 1: you so. But yes, we met in our early stages.
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Speaker 1: I was actually DJ and I still do periody radio DJ.
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you when I met you, I was
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Speaker 1: a radio DJ. He was a radio d okay in
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Speaker 1: world wide. You know. We met in three separate incidents,
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Speaker 1: but one of them took us back to where I
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Speaker 1: ended up on a rooftop with her because she had
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Speaker 1: her foot mill. I was stuck in the room, you know,
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Speaker 1: trying to the shelf. Tell the story, please, did I
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Speaker 1: tell you? Sean? Okay, okay, okay. So, so I was
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Speaker 1: flipping houses in Newark, New Jersey while I was a
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Speaker 1: radio personality in New York City, right, And I'm a scorpio,
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Speaker 1: And what that kind of means is if you back
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Speaker 1: me into a corner, my stinger comes up and sometimes
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Speaker 1: goes over well, but not always over overwhelmed in business.
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Speaker 1: And so what happened was all my contractors walked off
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Speaker 1: the job because I came off hard. It's hard to
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Speaker 1: be a woman working in construction as well. You know,
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Speaker 1: men don't always take that well. And so when you
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Speaker 1: kind of come also, and that's part of the country,
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Speaker 1: I'm just really chaupnistic. Well, just so I can tend
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Speaker 1: for a fact, I lived in New York, I've lived
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Speaker 1: all this. It gets really chauphnistic in that northeast part
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Speaker 1: of the country, especialist Jersey area, it does. So so
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Speaker 1: they walked up the job and I later found myself
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Speaker 1: trying to tar a hole in the roof by myself,
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Speaker 1: and I fell through the roof and in that moment,
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Speaker 1: I realized I needed some help. I called my mentor
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Speaker 1: at the time, who referred him this guy, And when
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Speaker 1: he pulled up, I'm like, what are you doing here?
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Speaker 1: You're a dj that's funny, that's funny. Rock rooftop baby,
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Speaker 1: right right right, right, right, right right, I'm a moving
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Speaker 1: walk all over this rooftop baby rock your word. I
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Speaker 1: didn't know he was. I didn't know he was really
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Speaker 1: also a businessman, and you know, he was a contractor,
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Speaker 1: and you know that that Djane was a facet of
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Speaker 1: what he did, but it wasn't all that all of
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Speaker 1: who he was. And we kind of fell in love
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Speaker 1: over that renovation. You saved my life, saved the shoe
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Speaker 1: for shore, You saved the shoe for show for shore.
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Speaker 1: Got that. You know. The interesting thing about and that
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Speaker 1: needn say interesting, is that you know, I tell everybody
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Speaker 1: and when I look at television now, television is so
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Speaker 1: fun for a person of color to me now because
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Speaker 1: I see us on television on long stories, I see
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Speaker 1: us in commercials, in a racial commercials all it's all
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Speaker 1: kind of things that really make you feel comfortable when
10:39
Speaker 1: you turn on the TV, and make you comfortab when
10:41
Speaker 1: you walk in the street. Here Okay, I guess you
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Speaker 1: were cool now in a way because you can see
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Speaker 1: me banking, me, dating, me, having my my Santa Claus
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Speaker 1: is black, all that good stuff. And so our president
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Speaker 1: was black, Yeah, absolutely so not vice president is black.
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Speaker 1: So you know, stuff becomes a little normal. We know
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Speaker 1: it's not all normal. But watching the show, um and
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Speaker 1: seeing you, guys, what do you think is the most
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Speaker 1: magical thing about you as a couple on TV talking
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Speaker 1: to people, encouraging them making life decisions and then showing
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Speaker 1: them that this is the best opportunity to move their
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Speaker 1: life forward. Sometimes there's a couple and sometimes as a family.
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Speaker 1: I think that for us, we have these conversations often,
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Speaker 1: right because as a black family, um, you know, on
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Speaker 1: national television where you're not just talking to an African
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Speaker 1: American audience, you know, questions come up. Even an advisory
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Speaker 1: if you know what I mean, You're you're an advisor
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Speaker 1: as well with Sean, so you know, an advisory it
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Speaker 1: is you know, what do we need to change anything
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Speaker 1: to appeal to the masses. And I think for us
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Speaker 1: the blessing in this entire experience as no one has
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Speaker 1: asked us to change a thing like I was on
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Speaker 1: the Today Show this morning in dreadlocks. You know what
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Speaker 1: I mean? I there, God is locks, the God is locksolitic.
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Speaker 1: But no, I think like Monday when I think about it,
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Speaker 1: like Monday, I shot a commercial, a commercial for the
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Speaker 1: International Excuse me, I'm sorry, I I shot a commercial
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Speaker 1: for the Intercontinental Exchange, right stock market, and no one
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Speaker 1: asked me to tone down anything like no attitude, no blackness,
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Speaker 1: no nothing on our show. That's very much who we are,
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Speaker 1: and our network h G TV loves it like we want,
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Speaker 1: we want y'all just as you are. I think that
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Speaker 1: that is a blessing in it and just this whole
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Speaker 1: experience our show, the idea that you know, we are
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Speaker 1: a black family successful. You know, we have beautiful children
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Speaker 1: who are sweet, who are educated. We're together, we're you know,
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Speaker 1: we're married. We don't have a broken home, which is
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Speaker 1: what people stereotypically expect. Um, we don't fight, there's no
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Speaker 1: drama or gossip out there about us and you know,
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Speaker 1: cheating and all this. Not People kind of expect that
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Speaker 1: when they see African American families on TV that there's
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Speaker 1: gonna come a whole had the tricks with it and
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Speaker 1: the blessing in this experience, not only that we get
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Speaker 1: to do it together, is that there's no driving line,
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Speaker 1: and so we're showing we can do it too. We
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Speaker 1: are doing it too. We've always been here. Thank god,
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Speaker 1: you're just noticing it. Hey, Mike, I want to say this, Mike,
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Speaker 1: like she kind of said, she tries to set you
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Speaker 1: up a couple of times, you know, when she comes
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Speaker 1: in the room, ask you how this look? Baby? Just
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Speaker 1: look baby, and this she references, Oh, you trying to
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Speaker 1: say about my week? I said, oh no, my boy up, No,
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Speaker 1: come on by, just set you So about to feedback
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Speaker 1: over that as well as and answer your question with
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Speaker 1: the magic part. I think the magic in it is
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Speaker 1: that we are really doing the work right. We won't
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Speaker 1: step in and then say cut okay, somebody else come
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Speaker 1: and do this. Yes, you see a couple, not just
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Speaker 1: a black couple, a couple that is universally appealing to
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Speaker 1: the masses. Right. It's positive, it's full of family, it's
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Speaker 1: full of education, it's full of information, right to where
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Speaker 1: you can say, okay, I'm used to this. This sounds familiar,
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Speaker 1: This looks familiar. I'm tuning in, but I think what's
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Speaker 1: what It's good too, and you also see a little
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Speaker 1: bit of our masks. You know, you can tell drive
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Speaker 1: my crazy, you can tell what you're gonna do with
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Speaker 1: my board and Mike heat my boy, not my boy, Mike.
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Speaker 1: It's like I said, I just showed you all to examples.
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Speaker 1: What you trying to send them up? You know what
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Speaker 1: I'm saying, you know, talking about baby, I think I
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Speaker 1: eat too much here now I think I've eaten too
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Speaker 1: much baby. Where do you think? Uh, I'm not answering
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Speaker 1: that question of TV. No, you are doing me like that, honey.
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Speaker 1: You know that's the fun part of what I'm talking about,
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Speaker 1: this relationship, because that's what I'm doing by life, you know,
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Speaker 1: because but it's captured on film organically, and I'm gonna
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Speaker 1: be real about it. It ain't even by race. Now,
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Speaker 1: it's about join a couple. And that gives me information
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Speaker 1: because I watched these shows. These are type of shows
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Speaker 1: that will be running where you're the car dealerships, sitting
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Speaker 1: there way on your call, these type calls, This type
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Speaker 1: of shows that are running when you're waiting there in
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Speaker 1: the hospital lobby. These type of shows that are just running.
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Speaker 1: They're so comfortable because they're so informative. And that's the
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Speaker 1: part of it that I love because I love that
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Speaker 1: part where you know you you walk them through the house,
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Speaker 1: you know, and that's the part where you know if
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Speaker 1: people know what they're talking about when you because people
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Speaker 1: people really ship you, they're about to give their life
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Speaker 1: to you. And in some of these houses that you're
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Speaker 1: walking in, you can't be so forceful that you feel
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Speaker 1: like this is it a y'aut But that part walks
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Speaker 1: through that whole part of the creating that organic relationship.
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Speaker 1: Mike as a builder because she's the face of the
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Speaker 1: she's the dreamer, but you have to put it together.
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Speaker 1: And then she comes in and she had changed on you. Well,
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Speaker 1: why I didn't want it like that? I mean, like,
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Speaker 1: come on, don't do Mike like that on film. Don't
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Speaker 1: do them like that on film. But he laughs at
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Speaker 1: I loved it. I loved I loved it. I love
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Speaker 1: it when the floor was gold and on the floor
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Speaker 1: was brown, on the floor with this you go, oh babe,
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Speaker 1: where I got you? I got you? And she walked away. Okay,
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Speaker 1: I'll be back, walk walking in and I'll just tell
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Speaker 1: you a couple of things that really messed him up.
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Speaker 1: She on the construction side, y'all. She walking there with
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Speaker 1: heels on, open toes, open toes, open toes. Here of course,
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Speaker 1: Mike saying, my day. I might be with my real
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Speaker 1: estate clients. I still need to look professional. They don't
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Speaker 1: understand me coming in the work boots. You talk to me,
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Speaker 1: Mike talked to me. Mike said, you're gonna used to
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Speaker 1: step on the nail, used to step on the rush.
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Speaker 1: I love the fact that the potential of who y'all
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Speaker 1: are to me, I'm comfortable. I want to watch, I
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Speaker 1: want to learn. I want to say, can I get that?
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Speaker 1: Can I get them to do that to my house?
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Speaker 1: That's what I know. It's special because I'm going like,
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Speaker 1: because you know, I've done a lot of remodeling. You know,
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Speaker 1: I have people from my house going so how do
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Speaker 1: they pulling that off? That? And it looks so beautiful.
18:16
Speaker 1: But again, like I was saying, Mike, you are the builder.
18:19
Speaker 1: You know she comes up with these pricings. Well, we
18:22
Speaker 1: can only do it for a hundred thousand. We can't
18:24
Speaker 1: do And they don't know that the gas meter sitting
18:27
Speaker 1: over there with the window gonna be you know what
18:29
Speaker 1: I'm saying, don't know that though, you know, but she
18:31
Speaker 1: don't tell everybody. We're gonna put the window there. You
18:33
Speaker 1: gotta come in and go, hey, baby, it's a gas
18:35
Speaker 1: meter there. Uh, we'll take care of honey. I love you. Smooches. Yeah,
18:44
Speaker 1: she she you know, she'll give them, um the division,
18:49
Speaker 1: your sir, and then I will uh you know, softly
18:53
Speaker 1: bring it back down to reality, make him feel comfortable. Um,
18:56
Speaker 1: allow them to trust me, you know, one with smart decisions,
19:00
Speaker 1: showing them how we can get there for some reason
19:02
Speaker 1: they can't afford how we can get there for doing
19:05
Speaker 1: for less, but by doing different options, right, Um. I
19:08
Speaker 1: think it's all about listening and letting them speak and
19:11
Speaker 1: let them be heard, allowing them to let you know
19:14
Speaker 1: exactly what they want, and then you coming in and
19:18
Speaker 1: making it feel relatable. You know what, Sean, What I
19:20
Speaker 1: love about this man and why why this works is
19:24
Speaker 1: because he lets me be me. He knows that you're right.
19:28
Speaker 1: I'm a dreamer, I'm a visionary. I'm gonna show everything
19:32
Speaker 1: and it's purest potential, um. And he let me live
19:36
Speaker 1: that out, and then he will humbly bring everybody back
19:39
Speaker 1: down to earth. Everything that he does. He even I
19:46
Speaker 1: get car sick, uh, you know, so I have to drive,
19:50
Speaker 1: and that's when when anybody's driving. Even if someone says
19:53
Speaker 1: a car with a driver for me, I'm like, I
19:55
Speaker 1: don't know if I want I want to drive because
19:57
Speaker 1: I get really car sick. You know a lot of
20:00
Speaker 1: and Rashane wouldn't be comfortable with their wife behind the wheel,
20:04
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So for for seventeen and
20:08
Speaker 1: a half years, he'll sit in the passenger seat, but
20:12
Speaker 1: and let me drive and be okay with that, you know,
20:14
Speaker 1: And he's still the lead. He still leaves our family
20:17
Speaker 1: even though break absolutely, absolutely, absolutely absolutely absolutely worried about
20:24
Speaker 1: that seven year itch. You know what I'm saying, that
20:26
Speaker 1: seven year itch. You know what I'm saying. But you
20:28
Speaker 1: look at the beauty of all if we go through
20:30
Speaker 1: the episodes, you don't do this show long. You have
20:33
Speaker 1: three or wonderful children. They're girls, they're the part of
20:36
Speaker 1: the show. Andreaged, part of the show. Like said, y'all
20:39
Speaker 1: was part of the show. Talk about the overall casting
20:41
Speaker 1: and the need to organically, you know, introduce your family.
20:45
Speaker 1: And like I said, I only told the first two episodes,
20:47
Speaker 1: so more people are going to be introduced. What was
20:49
Speaker 1: the whole theory behind the introduction. Are you trying to
20:53
Speaker 1: just let everybody know this is us? Or what was
20:56
Speaker 1: the whole background behind that whole process. I think people
21:00
Speaker 1: had to kind of get to know us first, right,
21:02
Speaker 1: who who each of this, Who Mike is, who we
21:04
Speaker 1: are as a couple, who we are as a family
21:06
Speaker 1: with our children. But really, for our business is to work,
21:10
Speaker 1: we could never do it alone. We got a whole
21:12
Speaker 1: army behind us um and we want people to embrace
21:16
Speaker 1: them as well normally with normalcy. So you know, we
21:20
Speaker 1: kind of got to ease them and let you, let
21:21
Speaker 1: you learn everybody. So Andre is a designer friend of mine.
21:24
Speaker 1: He's super talented. He's done some of the biggest design
21:28
Speaker 1: houses in Atlanta and all over the country. But but
21:31
Speaker 1: really when everything's off and we let our hair down,
21:34
Speaker 1: he's one of my best friends. So he's the person
21:37
Speaker 1: that I call if I'm like I can't figure out
21:40
Speaker 1: this room. I need some input. And and when I'm
21:44
Speaker 1: I'm doing my my child's room, it's like I'm wanting
21:47
Speaker 1: I need second eyes. But Mike can't stand it. Whenever
21:50
Speaker 1: my phone is digging from my bank notifications, Andre has
21:55
Speaker 1: very high elite taste. You know. I do everything kind
21:59
Speaker 1: of on the budget on my own, but when he
22:00
Speaker 1: comes in, the price triples. So Mike, I love you,
22:04
Speaker 1: but you gotta go bro. But let's let's talk about
22:07
Speaker 1: the pricing and all that, because you know this is
22:09
Speaker 1: we're not talking about to see it. But that's that's
22:11
Speaker 1: that's where the experience comes in. That's when to walk
22:14
Speaker 1: into a property and give an estimate of what it's
22:16
Speaker 1: gonna take to get there. And Mike, I'm gonna go
22:19
Speaker 1: to you as as a builder, as a person who
22:22
Speaker 1: really is the nuts and boats of renovation. How how
22:25
Speaker 1: does that process work for you that you trust your
22:28
Speaker 1: natural instincts or do you have a roller dex? Did
22:31
Speaker 1: you just you go you you fall back on to
22:33
Speaker 1: be able to make sure that you hit that number. Yeah, well,
22:38
Speaker 1: a lot of relationships for one um with subs, with
22:42
Speaker 1: a lot of big box stores, with a lot of friends,
22:45
Speaker 1: you know, so those relationships I keep those in mind
22:48
Speaker 1: as I'm going through properties. But in this day and
22:50
Speaker 1: age where wood and materials are fluctuating price and sometimes
22:55
Speaker 1: over priced, I have to get creative, you know, where
22:58
Speaker 1: we go to refurbished properties or refurbish warehouses and use
23:02
Speaker 1: materials or I use things that I may have in
23:05
Speaker 1: my warehouse. You know. Yeah, we actually did that on
23:09
Speaker 1: so many episodes, where we reuse things and repurpose them
23:12
Speaker 1: right and make them updated. You know, it's not always
23:15
Speaker 1: about let's let's demolish this and make a great scene.
23:19
Speaker 1: It's about let's do those smart decisions that's gonna make
23:21
Speaker 1: sense so we can hit that target. Yeah, but Rashoon,
23:24
Speaker 1: sometimes we gotta give the bad news. You know, the
23:27
Speaker 1: bad news is this is your budget, but we just
23:30
Speaker 1: can't do it for that budget because the reality is
23:33
Speaker 1: stuff st out of stock right now, we're still in
23:35
Speaker 1: the pandemic and materials are sparse, so you know, it
23:38
Speaker 1: may cost forty percent more than it would have cost
23:41
Speaker 1: last year or six six months ago. Um, that's when
23:44
Speaker 1: I let him get the bad news. Materials. And not
23:46
Speaker 1: only have materials went up, but the price of laborers
23:49
Speaker 1: went up as well. So people are extremely shocked by pricing.
23:53
Speaker 1: So some of some of my clients that booked our
23:55
Speaker 1: company before the pandemic and they wanted to wait, they
23:59
Speaker 1: are now called and get inside swiped. You know, so
24:05
Speaker 1: story at this moment, well, I'm talking to Egypt Sharad,
24:09
Speaker 1: she's the queen, and Mike Jackson he's the king, and
24:13
Speaker 1: you're married to real estate. It's a it's an exciting
24:15
Speaker 1: new show. It's a show. A reason I say it's
24:16
Speaker 1: exciting because they're refreshing, they're entertaining. I want to invite
24:22
Speaker 1: him into my home. You will invite him into your home.
24:25
Speaker 1: Discovery Plus, they're streaming right now. You don't know Egypt
24:27
Speaker 1: shra She has a bootcoo amount of work that's on
24:32
Speaker 1: Discovered Plus right now. She is the experts, she's the
24:35
Speaker 1: queen of all respect her. My long this is not
24:38
Speaker 1: it's not being based on my long time of relationship.
24:40
Speaker 1: When I mentioned her name and my house, my wife
24:43
Speaker 1: knew immediately who she was, and that was to be
24:46
Speaker 1: a testament that my wife respects you and wants to
24:50
Speaker 1: be excited about this new venture for you guys. More importantly,
24:54
Speaker 1: I just see a couple of new stars of TV
24:56
Speaker 1: that's going to like take over the game. And I'm
24:59
Speaker 1: gonna tell you something. I'm humble when I say that
25:01
Speaker 1: because I'm blessed it. I can say that I could
25:04
Speaker 1: have said this five years ago. That's how times have changed.
25:07
Speaker 1: You guys are landing at the right time on TV.
25:10
Speaker 1: There's nothing on that show that I was not disappointed in.
25:14
Speaker 1: I was it was funny, it was organic, it was natural,
25:17
Speaker 1: and I felt like it was a couple just happens
25:19
Speaker 1: to have a camera following them around on a on
25:23
Speaker 1: a rebuild. That's all I saw. That means a lot
25:27
Speaker 1: coming from We know you know talent, We know that
25:30
Speaker 1: you you know you helped mold talent as well. Um
25:33
Speaker 1: and I actually remember a conversation. I don't know if
25:36
Speaker 1: you remember it, but I'm gonna take you down memory
25:38
Speaker 1: lane just a little bit before we go. I was
25:40
Speaker 1: working at WBLS in New York City. I want to
25:43
Speaker 1: say this was about thirteen years ago. Two or thirteen
25:47
Speaker 1: years ago. Uh, And I said, for Sean, I gotta
25:51
Speaker 1: keep this on the down low, but I'm thinking about
25:53
Speaker 1: making the move to Atlanta, right And I know that
25:57
Speaker 1: you're in Atlanta. What do you think is that a
25:59
Speaker 1: good move for me? And you said, come on, come
26:01
Speaker 1: over here to my office, which by the way, happened
26:03
Speaker 1: to be like a little production client at that moment
26:07
Speaker 1: that moment, and you sat me down and you said, this,
26:10
Speaker 1: this is the deal. Atlanta. It's for big dogs. Everybody's
26:14
Speaker 1: a star in Atlanta. Everybody's got something going on in Atlanta.
26:17
Speaker 1: You got some incredible young black entrepreneurs there, and so
26:21
Speaker 1: if you come in Atlanta, you gotta have your stuff together,
26:23
Speaker 1: so you get your game plan first and then you
26:26
Speaker 1: work your plan. I don't know if you if you
26:28
Speaker 1: remember this conversation, but it sticks out to me because
26:31
Speaker 1: moving here from New York after cementing myself as a
26:35
Speaker 1: radio personality there for many years, was a big, bold
26:39
Speaker 1: move and it was you know, it took a lot
26:41
Speaker 1: of you know, it took a lot of guns, and
26:43
Speaker 1: you know, for us to just say we're gonna take
26:46
Speaker 1: a chance and bet on ourselves and rebuild in an
26:49
Speaker 1: entirely different city where we didn't know anybody in it
26:52
Speaker 1: was had several conversations because you know, she followed us
26:56
Speaker 1: Steve Harvey, now, you know, and so I was always
26:59
Speaker 1: talking about is always talking about winning, always talking about
27:02
Speaker 1: But one thing I did like about it she always
27:04
Speaker 1: had multiple strings of income. Ye see right there. She
27:09
Speaker 1: was my friend because that's important in today's society to
27:13
Speaker 1: be able to wake up and realize you have options.
27:15
Speaker 1: And when I sat down I remember that conversation because
27:18
Speaker 1: it's funny Egypt. I get that a lot from people
27:20
Speaker 1: to say, which you remember when you told me this,
27:22
Speaker 1: And I have an honest side of me that I'm
27:24
Speaker 1: gonna tell you, Look, you need to stay up here.
27:27
Speaker 1: This hit. But I knew that she had a sense
27:31
Speaker 1: of the gift to be able to do more. But
27:33
Speaker 1: if you go down there, know what you're walking into
27:37
Speaker 1: because it's going to happen. And guess what, everything's time
27:40
Speaker 1: that right, it is the new Hollywood. You know the pricings. Right,
27:45
Speaker 1: y'all have a great show. I'm comfortable now. I just
27:48
Speaker 1: gotta get y'all come by my house and remodel my
27:50
Speaker 1: back and there we don't talk about that. I'm just
27:57
Speaker 1: making you do. Zoe, you know, you know, you know
27:59
Speaker 1: you're in these calls and then you go bye bye.
28:01
Speaker 1: I said, oh, they said't gonna give me his novel?
28:07
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, No, no, no, no, but again,
28:11
Speaker 1: watch this show is is streaming right now. It's streaming
28:14
Speaker 1: right now on Discovery Plus. Marriage to Real Estate Stars
28:17
Speaker 1: of Egypt, Sharrod my Man, Mike Jackson, thank you for
28:19
Speaker 1: coming on Monday, making comes It is tomorrow night. But
28:26
Speaker 1: he may be running this. Mike Mike, Mike, Mike. You
28:29
Speaker 1: need to be quiet. You need to be quiet. You're
28:32
Speaker 1: saying right there, see TV person don't know it premiers
28:37
Speaker 1: tomorrow night. Man, you're streaming nowadays. You stream I'm helping
28:42
Speaker 1: him out at him. This is this is a run
28:44
Speaker 1: next week. It's gonna run in the in March, they're
28:48
Speaker 1: gonna run the summer. We're gonna keep getting dial looads
28:51
Speaker 1: and views. You need to be quiet. I'm tired of
28:57
Speaker 1: talking to you. I'm glad you did. You did. Uh
29:01
Speaker 1: we said he did the Good Morning America Today show.
29:03
Speaker 1: He did buy yourself right by Yourself show. You talked
29:08
Speaker 1: too much. He talked about it. I love your bow again.
29:14
Speaker 1: It's streaming. It's streaming right now on Discovery Plus. Watch
29:18
Speaker 1: it daytime, nighttime, midnight. It's just own. This ain't old TV.
29:23
Speaker 1: When you gotta watch eight o'clock, It's own right now.
29:25
Speaker 1: Just turn on and click it. It's a beautiful show,
29:27
Speaker 1: beautiful family, a great real estate show about remodeling, renovation,
29:31
Speaker 1: getting the right value for the right couple to change
29:34
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Speaker 1: I guess Tatiana Ali has a journey. A Harvard grad
31:20
Speaker 1: actress singer. Her resume includes the Fresh Prince of Berlair,
31:23
Speaker 1: Loved That Girl, the CBS soap Proper Young In the Wrestlers,
31:26
Speaker 1: and many many more. And but on this show today,
31:29
Speaker 1: she's going to talk about a new Lifetime original movie,
31:32
Speaker 1: Vanished Searching for My Sister, which premieres Saturday, January twenty
31:37
Speaker 1: second on Lifetime a PM seven Central. Here's the great
31:42
Speaker 1: thing to bouy. It's gonna see Tatiana like you've never
31:44
Speaker 1: seen it before. She plays the role of twins Jada
31:48
Speaker 1: and Kayla, who could not be more opposite. I've seen
31:51
Speaker 1: the movie. As they say, if you have four starts,
31:53
Speaker 1: I'm giving it all four plus a little pinky for
31:55
Speaker 1: a plus. It's really that good. So please work with
31:58
Speaker 1: money making conversation as we are explore her life and
32:01
Speaker 1: talk to my friends oft the HPC. You talk to
32:03
Speaker 1: my friends across the country as well as about black excellence,
32:07
Speaker 1: and she does exemplify that. The movie vanished searching for
32:10
Speaker 1: my sister to star. Tatiana Ali, welcome to the show.
32:15
Speaker 1: Thank you so much for having me. There's always a
32:18
Speaker 1: journey in uh your career, especially you're starting at such
32:21
Speaker 1: a young age, and that's one of the one reasons
32:23
Speaker 1: I wanted to bring you on this show, because you know,
32:25
Speaker 1: we've seen so many tragic stories of young people not
32:28
Speaker 1: being able to get over the hulp. I've been fortunate.
32:30
Speaker 1: I've written sitcoms Robert Townsend, Sister Sister, Jamie Foxes, and
32:37
Speaker 1: The Parkers, so I've I've worked with young talent, and
32:39
Speaker 1: you're a young talent. You're still finding yourself in this business.
32:43
Speaker 1: Talk about starting in this business and being able to
32:45
Speaker 1: survive in this business, Tatiana. Um, I think for for
32:51
Speaker 1: young people especially, UM, it's hard to you know, have
32:56
Speaker 1: a career and just go through the natural challenges of
33:00
Speaker 1: growing up. And young performers need all of the support
33:06
Speaker 1: that you know every other child needs. And sometimes you
33:10
Speaker 1: know we we we tend to be precocious, right, UM,
33:16
Speaker 1: usually intelligent, artistic, and are able to take on a
33:22
Speaker 1: lot of responsibility. And I think you know, even people
33:26
Speaker 1: that I've known in my life, um, growing up who
33:29
Speaker 1: were also actors, um, who necessarily didn't do so well
33:33
Speaker 1: in life afterwards. UM, you need that support system, and
33:38
Speaker 1: you need somebody to sometimes treat you like a child
33:41
Speaker 1: and tell you know, guide you rear you. UM. I
33:46
Speaker 1: think all that responsibility that we kind of exude fools
33:51
Speaker 1: people into thinking that we're okay when we're not okay,
33:54
Speaker 1: or that we need less than we actually need. And
33:58
Speaker 1: I'm lucky if if you know, if I have been
34:02
Speaker 1: successful in life, which I feel, I feel happy with
34:05
Speaker 1: my life. UM, that's all because of my family. You know,
34:09
Speaker 1: my parents they could care less about entertainment or fame. UM.
34:16
Speaker 1: They really raised me too. Hopefully be courageous enough to
34:21
Speaker 1: just do what I love, whatever that is. And so
34:25
Speaker 1: my pride and my understanding of self is not really
34:30
Speaker 1: wrapped up in what I do. I exist outside of it.
34:36
Speaker 1: You know, acting, performing, that's just what I do. It's
34:40
Speaker 1: not it doesn't make up all of me. And I
34:42
Speaker 1: think that's allowed me to, you know, for the with
34:49
Speaker 1: the highs and the lows of my career. You know,
34:52
Speaker 1: it's always interesting when when you get in entertainment because
34:55
Speaker 1: people are kind of short trained because used the word
34:57
Speaker 1: intelligence is smarts, because some people tend to think that
35:01
Speaker 1: there's a limit to the abilities. And that's why I
35:03
Speaker 1: made sure I put Harvard Grad. If you had to
35:06
Speaker 1: put Harvard Grad actress, singer, which one of those three
35:11
Speaker 1: would you be most proud and be willing to brag
35:13
Speaker 1: about the most? Oh that's a good question. You know.
35:21
Speaker 1: I was talking to my husband about this because you know,
35:24
Speaker 1: Lonnie Guinier just passed. She's a Harvard law professor. I
35:29
Speaker 1: knew about her growing up. You know, she worked in
35:31
Speaker 1: UH I think it was Bill Clinton's administration. And I
35:34
Speaker 1: remember my first week at Harvard and she had just
35:37
Speaker 1: started her professorship there and I saw her walk across
35:42
Speaker 1: campus and like, I've never I've been rich. I've been
35:47
Speaker 1: kind of like star struck twice in my life and
35:51
Speaker 1: they weren't entertainers. One was Macy Jamison. I met her
35:56
Speaker 1: in an CP function. I was like eleven, and I
35:59
Speaker 1: really wanted to go to Space Camp when I was
36:01
Speaker 1: a kid. That was like she was everything, Like I
36:03
Speaker 1: had her poster on my well. And then the second
36:05
Speaker 1: time was when I saw Lottie Gumer on campus, and
36:09
Speaker 1: I don't know what it is. I think I think
36:16
Speaker 1: there's something about those women, you know, exceeding the expectations
36:26
Speaker 1: of their society, kind of like just going after their
36:32
Speaker 1: dreams and then also giving so much to others in
36:38
Speaker 1: their work that that is what impressed me as a
36:43
Speaker 1: as a as a young woman, and so so in
36:48
Speaker 1: that thinking about that, maybe maybe going to school is
36:52
Speaker 1: the thing that I'm like, hey, I'll do that, because
36:55
Speaker 1: it was the thing that I really had to I
37:00
Speaker 1: was very deep in my music and in touring at
37:04
Speaker 1: the time that I got accepted, and I remember very
37:08
Speaker 1: distinctly having a meeting, you know, a seventeen year old
37:11
Speaker 1: girl in a meeting with all these executives saying, guess
37:14
Speaker 1: what I just got accepted to these different places, and
37:18
Speaker 1: I want to go, and then going, what do you
37:20
Speaker 1: mean you want to go? Why do you need that?
37:23
Speaker 1: If you do that, then you can't do this, which
37:27
Speaker 1: I'm so happy to see that. Now that's just kind
37:30
Speaker 1: of an unacceptable thing to say to a young person.
37:32
Speaker 1: But I think, you know, back then it really was
37:36
Speaker 1: people really thought like, oh, school was something to fall
37:39
Speaker 1: back on. And I always had this very deep, just
37:43
Speaker 1: like an intuitive understanding that why wouldn't you want me
37:45
Speaker 1: to go to school? Why would you why why would
37:48
Speaker 1: an artist not need to be educated? Why would you
37:52
Speaker 1: not need to know what you're saying, what you're contributing? How?
37:58
Speaker 1: And so, yeah, the beauty of it is like my
38:04
Speaker 1: degree is in mathematics, you know, my minors and sociology
38:07
Speaker 1: and uh. And so when I was whenever I tell people,
38:10
Speaker 1: despite all the success I have, you know, whether it's
38:12
Speaker 1: managing and Steve Harvey or Stephen Nay Smith for doing movies, uh, sitcoms,
38:17
Speaker 1: when I tell people I have a math degree, it
38:19
Speaker 1: almost shuts the room down a little bit. Humh. And so,
38:23
Speaker 1: so because people don't expect that, they expect what they
38:26
Speaker 1: expect when you say if you're an athlete. You know,
38:28
Speaker 1: that's why applaud Lebron James so much. I applaud you
38:32
Speaker 1: because one can stand that lane, because sometimes that lane
38:36
Speaker 1: can box you in, because people can throw fear at you.
38:38
Speaker 1: Said no, no, no no, if you go do this,
38:40
Speaker 1: you can't do this. And guess what. You went there,
38:44
Speaker 1: did that and guess what I'm interviewing about a very
38:47
Speaker 1: great movie on Lifetime original called Vans Searching for My Sister.
38:51
Speaker 1: So it didn't stop you from achieving a continued level
38:54
Speaker 1: of success in the entertainment the world. That's why I
38:57
Speaker 1: really feel is a blessing. And you know my question
38:59
Speaker 1: is just to ask and just to get you to
39:01
Speaker 1: think about it because I commend you. I applaud you
39:05
Speaker 1: because that's a decision you had to make. You had
39:07
Speaker 1: to get up, you had to open up that book.
39:09
Speaker 1: You had to stay committed, and you could have turned
39:11
Speaker 1: and ran off. And so I don't want to do this.
39:12
Speaker 1: Just look, find me a stage, find me a script,
39:15
Speaker 1: so I can go on in a short term success.
39:18
Speaker 1: You know, you can get any whoa I'm a star game.
39:21
Speaker 1: But you walked on that campus and basically became a
39:24
Speaker 1: student and that's a blessing. Yeah, it was, and it
39:29
Speaker 1: was a It was a culture shot because all of
39:31
Speaker 1: a sudden, you know, well I had been working for
39:35
Speaker 1: so long and and going to school at the same time.
39:38
Speaker 1: But I had tutors, I had you know, I was
39:41
Speaker 1: in studio school, so all of a sudden, to be
39:43
Speaker 1: given a syllabus, I was like, what I remember? I
39:47
Speaker 1: remember even what I wore, Like, I had two types
39:51
Speaker 1: of clothes in my wardrobe. I had rehearsal clothes and
39:55
Speaker 1: a athleisure wasn't a thing that you know, rehearsal clothes,
39:59
Speaker 1: and then I had like super fancy like out there.
40:03
Speaker 1: So I even had to go and like go to
40:05
Speaker 1: the store with my mom when we first got you know,
40:08
Speaker 1: into Cambridge, and like just buy some jeans, right right right,
40:11
Speaker 1: just be normal, just have the style. I really I
40:15
Speaker 1: love the fact you said you had two outfits because basically,
40:19
Speaker 1: in the movie Vanished, you're playing two roles, and basically
40:23
Speaker 1: it's two outfits. There is one of this humble, you know,
40:27
Speaker 1: studious type person. That's why I love this thing because
40:30
Speaker 1: it kind of blends your life, you know, because you
40:32
Speaker 1: were just this this this outrageous not since the outrage it.
40:36
Speaker 1: But you was this actor, this entertainer that was kind
40:38
Speaker 1: of like one twin sister. And then this this, this,
40:41
Speaker 1: this Harvard student was the other sister. So basically, I'm
40:46
Speaker 1: not saying, basically, you live this life, but now you're
40:50
Speaker 1: living in to the extremes in a movie. What what
40:52
Speaker 1: attracted you to this project? I love the idea of well,
40:59
Speaker 1: it's it's actually based on a true story. So, UM,
41:02
Speaker 1: a woman actually did do this. Her twin sister had disappeared. Her.
41:07
Speaker 1: Her twin was an ex addict, She had a had
41:11
Speaker 1: a harder life than than UM than her sister and UM,
41:15
Speaker 1: but they were very very close, and her sister went
41:18
Speaker 1: missing and her her twin, the twin that remained. UM
41:23
Speaker 1: just would not allow her sister to not have justice
41:29
Speaker 1: or to not be found. And I loved that part
41:33
Speaker 1: of the story especially you know, UM, black women disappear
41:39
Speaker 1: a lot. A lot of people have been talking about that,
41:42
Speaker 1: and you know, the efforts that are made to find
41:46
Speaker 1: them or to find out what happened to him sometimes
41:49
Speaker 1: just aren't there. And I think that was the case
41:51
Speaker 1: with this woman, and she just wouldn't stand for that.
41:53
Speaker 1: She made sure that her sister's life mattered, and I
41:56
Speaker 1: was really attracted to that. Also was really attracted to
41:59
Speaker 1: just the chow on to playing these two totally different
42:03
Speaker 1: women who grew up in the same home but took
42:06
Speaker 1: completely different paths in life. Um. That was really exciting
42:12
Speaker 1: and also kind of scary because I've never I've never
42:14
Speaker 1: done anything like that before. And the sister who's an
42:17
Speaker 1: ex addict, Kayla m I very rarely get the opportunity
42:22
Speaker 1: to play um women like that, and I really I
42:27
Speaker 1: loved her. I wish I could have played her more
42:28
Speaker 1: in the in the movie. Actually, well, you know, I
42:31
Speaker 1: thought you kind of playing you did a great job
42:34
Speaker 1: because you got to play both sides of it. And
42:37
Speaker 1: the thing about it that I enjoyed because I've been
42:39
Speaker 1: fortunate to, you know, do that twin role production wise,
42:43
Speaker 1: and I know, and you have to you have to
42:45
Speaker 1: do the lines and you have to do the other lines.
42:47
Speaker 1: You it's really it looks like it's easy, but it's
42:50
Speaker 1: really difficult. At what time did you you know, when
42:53
Speaker 1: you're dealing with that split personality and and and and
42:56
Speaker 1: laying it out, what challenges did you face and play
43:00
Speaker 1: and both roles, especially when you were the characters were
43:02
Speaker 1: talking to each other. Yeah, there's um, it's you know,
43:09
Speaker 1: a million challenges differentiating to you know, the work that
43:13
Speaker 1: I would usually do going into a film, the character
43:16
Speaker 1: development that's all of that is times two and then
43:19
Speaker 1: times three because I then am alone working on the
43:25
Speaker 1: relationship between the two sisters. Usually, you know, I might
43:28
Speaker 1: have my guesses or my instincts of what a relationship
43:31
Speaker 1: is in a story, but I have another actor that
43:34
Speaker 1: I can uh, you know, consult with and vibe off
43:38
Speaker 1: up and figure it out with. But with them, you know,
43:41
Speaker 1: it's just me creating this relationship. I worked with really
43:45
Speaker 1: great stand ins who, um, they were just excellent and
43:49
Speaker 1: just like with their with me on that um. But yeah,
43:52
Speaker 1: the split screen work was that was a beast. And
43:57
Speaker 1: you know, we made this movie in three weeks, which
44:00
Speaker 1: is it's a truncated schedule to be claiming to characters,
44:03
Speaker 1: and so there were many days where I was, um,
44:07
Speaker 1: both Kayla and Jada on the same day, and I
44:10
Speaker 1: really relied on makeup and hair and and the costumers
44:14
Speaker 1: who are incredible to just I love the makeup and
44:18
Speaker 1: hair room. That's like my safe space when I would
44:23
Speaker 1: switch from one to the other. They were just they
44:26
Speaker 1: were I had the most beautiful souls to work with
44:29
Speaker 1: and helped me through them. If anybody is ever questioning
44:33
Speaker 1: the athleticism of Ali not in this. Once you watch
44:39
Speaker 1: this particular movie, this young lady jumps over a head.
44:46
Speaker 1: I mean I fell out. You know, I played it back.
44:50
Speaker 1: I played the back. I laughed, So I said, well,
44:53
Speaker 1: this is this is awesome. You jumped over that book.
44:55
Speaker 1: You know. The thing about it is I loved it
44:58
Speaker 1: because that's how as you you say, a black woman
45:01
Speaker 1: acts when they see their babies in danger. You reacted
45:06
Speaker 1: like a black woman, like my momble, like my son,
45:09
Speaker 1: see somebody out there messing with their kids. Jim, you
45:13
Speaker 1: got out there. Now, let's talk about was that? Was
45:17
Speaker 1: that just? Uh? Because it was it in the way
45:19
Speaker 1: could you have went around that scene? It was amazing,
45:22
Speaker 1: It was It was great, Diana. I'm not even telling
45:26
Speaker 1: it was amazing that you did it. It felt so real,
45:28
Speaker 1: It felt like you were in the moment and its
45:31
Speaker 1: soul that scene. It's funny that you bring that up,
45:35
Speaker 1: because when we were shooting it, I remember the director going,
45:39
Speaker 1: you know, he was, he was like, we got this.
45:42
Speaker 1: He's like, I want you to come out the door,
45:43
Speaker 1: and I just want you to make a beeline. I
45:45
Speaker 1: don't want you to go to the sidewalks. It seems
45:47
Speaker 1: too far. What do you think? But this hedge is
45:49
Speaker 1: in the way, and maybe we could just have them
45:51
Speaker 1: cut it down or something so you could run through it.
45:54
Speaker 1: I was like, do you know what I would do?
46:00
Speaker 1: Because you know, I'm a mom, and uh, even before
46:08
Speaker 1: I was a mom, I had a puppy who ended
46:10
Speaker 1: up on the outside of offense. Luckily, my children have
46:14
Speaker 1: never been in this kind of dangerous situation, so I
46:15
Speaker 1: haven't had that experience yet, or you know, hopefully I
46:20
Speaker 1: prayed that I won't. But I had a puppy who
46:24
Speaker 1: was outside a much taller offense and the traffic was
46:28
Speaker 1: rushing back and forth, and I jumped over that, I
46:31
Speaker 1: mean sense it was about four ft tall, and got
46:35
Speaker 1: my puppy and then was locked out of my house, Like,
46:38
Speaker 1: how did I do back? I can't get back in.
46:42
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47:21
Speaker 1: I'm talking to town Alid the athletic, the Olympic, you know,
47:25
Speaker 1: the hurdler, the hurdler, the hurdler, you know, talking about
47:29
Speaker 1: her new movie Lifetime, which premier is Saturday, January twenty second,
47:33
Speaker 1: vanished searching for my sister. I let me tell you something.
47:36
Speaker 1: What I watched a lot of movie, read a lot
47:38
Speaker 1: of books. I I always get a kick out of
47:41
Speaker 1: moments like this where they're seeing you know. All I'm
47:45
Speaker 1: just saying is this. You were so natural when you
47:47
Speaker 1: did that moment. It sold me. Not only I was
47:51
Speaker 1: bought in. I bought into the movie, but that moment
47:55
Speaker 1: showed me a level of commitment because you know, you
47:58
Speaker 1: could just see some people when they try to do
48:00
Speaker 1: something they're not used to doing. When you did that,
48:02
Speaker 1: I went wow. I didn't expect that, But guess what
48:06
Speaker 1: her children were in danger? And then you had some great, great,
48:10
Speaker 1: great other people starring is but Girl, Jas, Mcguy and
48:15
Speaker 1: Tretch and all everybody nature frame that right there. Boy.
48:18
Speaker 1: You know, like I said, let's let's talk about acting
48:21
Speaker 1: with them. I know you have a history with them.
48:23
Speaker 1: You we've seen them all on TV and movies over
48:25
Speaker 1: the years and watching performing on stage. In the case
48:28
Speaker 1: of Tretch, talk about bringing that all together, because it
48:31
Speaker 1: really did sell a CD community versus the world that
48:35
Speaker 1: you lived in and allowed you to understand. And also
48:38
Speaker 1: I felt danger for you. I felt that you you
48:42
Speaker 1: were stepping too far out. Young ladies. You need to
48:45
Speaker 1: shut it down. You need to shut it down. Do
48:47
Speaker 1: you know where you're at? So talk about that those
48:50
Speaker 1: experiences allowing them to build that real culture of credibility
48:54
Speaker 1: to you walk in both worlds. I I just absolutely
48:58
Speaker 1: loved this cast, every every single body, I mean every
49:01
Speaker 1: single person. Um. Tretch, who is you know? I think
49:06
Speaker 1: the first time I met him, I was like fifteen
49:08
Speaker 1: or sixteen, Um, and he is just the kindest. He's
49:15
Speaker 1: so lovely and he there's actually a scene in the
49:19
Speaker 1: club where he sort of, you know, grips up my
49:23
Speaker 1: character against the wall, and he's such a good actor.
49:27
Speaker 1: I you know, after they yelled cut, I had to
49:32
Speaker 1: take some time because he really scared me. Um, he
49:40
Speaker 1: really did. He was just he was so so incredible,
49:43
Speaker 1: and not just on set, but the way it reads
49:46
Speaker 1: on camera. Um Um, even when you watch it, he's
49:50
Speaker 1: he can be terrifying. He's a very good actor and
49:53
Speaker 1: he's not like that all in real life. Jasmine, this
49:56
Speaker 1: was my This is the third time I've got a
49:58
Speaker 1: chance to work with her, but the most intimately that
50:02
Speaker 1: I've worked with her before. And it's hard sometimes to
50:06
Speaker 1: not like fan fan out on somebody before. But you know,
50:11
Speaker 1: I'm in these intense scenes with her and I'm thinking about, like, um,
50:16
Speaker 1: Harlem Knights. She's this this phenomenal like powerhouse actor and
50:23
Speaker 1: actually that role was meant for a man initially, That's
50:27
Speaker 1: how it was written. Um. And they didn't change anything.
50:30
Speaker 1: They just brought her into it and she she kills it.
50:34
Speaker 1: She killed it. I loved I loved working with her
50:37
Speaker 1: so any That's the thing is like any kind of
50:39
Speaker 1: difficulty or whatever that I was having, um or or
50:42
Speaker 1: the challenge that I was having playing the two characters,
50:46
Speaker 1: once I got to set and I just worked with
50:49
Speaker 1: all of these incredible actors that are in it. Um,
50:54
Speaker 1: yeah you could, I could just play. We know. The
50:56
Speaker 1: interesting thing about the whole reason I bring up there,
51:00
Speaker 1: whether it's treach and other people were performing in this
51:03
Speaker 1: particularly this wonderful movie, is that I felt your frustration. Okay,
51:07
Speaker 1: it had credibility. I felt that when you felt they
51:10
Speaker 1: weren't doing enough, I felt you had crossed the line
51:14
Speaker 1: many times. But if you crossed the line many times,
51:17
Speaker 1: and so that that that tells me good acting, good directing,
51:21
Speaker 1: good good character development and overall the projects sold me
51:26
Speaker 1: on the fact that you just wanted justice for your
51:29
Speaker 1: sister and and also for her daughter, also for your daughter.
51:35
Speaker 1: And it was a love story. I felt it was
51:37
Speaker 1: a love story wrapped into this in a sea line,
51:41
Speaker 1: a sea level storyline that I that in the end
51:44
Speaker 1: it placed itself out and uh talk about that because
51:47
Speaker 1: I felt that, you know, we kind of missed when
51:50
Speaker 1: you get into these stories and a tipe of violence,
51:52
Speaker 1: but it was a love story to me. In your
51:54
Speaker 1: relationship with your ex, yeah, that was an interesting UM
52:00
Speaker 1: part of this. My the main character, Jada, her ex husband.
52:06
Speaker 1: You know, they have a very strange relationship. They they
52:09
Speaker 1: certain they have a they still have a love for
52:11
Speaker 1: each other, but their relationship didn't work out. And um,
52:16
Speaker 1: over over the course of the story. You know, at first,
52:21
Speaker 1: he's an antagonist to what she's trying to do. He's like,
52:24
Speaker 1: you are not being a mother right now, and you're spiraling.
52:30
Speaker 1: And I think at onet, well, I won't tell that part,
52:33
Speaker 1: but um, they end up, you know, he ends up
52:37
Speaker 1: really coming through. I think in a way that that
52:41
Speaker 1: was probably missing in their relationship before. And I I
52:45
Speaker 1: just I like that part of the story, that sort
52:49
Speaker 1: of family part of the story, not with her husband,
52:54
Speaker 1: with her daughter, with her niece Justice. You know, I
53:01
Speaker 1: don't know, like the way we love. I like seeing
53:03
Speaker 1: that black love black. I en George, seeing that I
53:07
Speaker 1: enjoy He's a handsome guy, You're a very beautiful young
53:09
Speaker 1: lady playing a role that the child who plays your
53:13
Speaker 1: daughter is incredibly beautiful. It was just really that's what
53:17
Speaker 1: I love about what I enjoyed seeing television nowadays. You know,
53:21
Speaker 1: there's the diversity and the commercials and they acting and
53:25
Speaker 1: their roles that I knew black people wouldn't be having
53:28
Speaker 1: five years ago, and now being cast in and I
53:30
Speaker 1: can enjoy myself watching these love stories. They're not They're
53:34
Speaker 1: not a one off. They're not doing Black History Model
53:37
Speaker 1: or not doing June doing June Team Celebration. I can
53:41
Speaker 1: watch them anytime. This is this is a problem that
53:43
Speaker 1: the most part I've ever had on the Christmas break
53:45
Speaker 1: because I saw so many wonderful cast black lead casting
53:51
Speaker 1: roles by blacks who would just being themselves. And then
53:54
Speaker 1: to see you are wonderful talent and that's what that's
53:57
Speaker 1: a Black excellence. I really teach and talk about to
54:00
Speaker 1: my my listeners. Who are hbc U campuses and fortunate
54:03
Speaker 1: to broadcast on eighteen hbc U campuses sixty nine stations nationwide.
54:09
Speaker 1: But those eighteen HBCU campuses from from Howard to Clark
54:13
Speaker 1: Atlantic University, spell Month to Texas Southern to Boone Cookman.
54:17
Speaker 1: Fami you, so I have such a wonderful reach. What
54:20
Speaker 1: are your thoughts when you talk about black excellence? As
54:22
Speaker 1: we close out this interview, Tatiana you you you you
54:25
Speaker 1: You started as a young person. You your your your,
54:29
Speaker 1: your wife, your your mother. You are incredible actors who
54:34
Speaker 1: have made this transition. You're educated, you get a degree.
54:37
Speaker 1: What is black excellence. Black excellence to me is having
54:45
Speaker 1: the courage to be being courageous enough two um to
54:58
Speaker 1: dream your your most outlandish dreams and then not only
55:03
Speaker 1: dream them, put to set out and manifest them and
55:09
Speaker 1: make them real. And you know, oftentimes the really outlandish
55:18
Speaker 1: dreams are the ones that affect your community, affect the world, um,
55:27
Speaker 1: also affect your family. They're not just your own good fortune.
55:31
Speaker 1: When you materialize them, when you're able to make them
55:35
Speaker 1: come true, they they bubble over and they, um, you know,
55:41
Speaker 1: change the world around you. My goodness, she's a track star,
55:46
Speaker 1: she's a singer, she's an actress, she was a herdle.
55:52
Speaker 1: I'm telling you something. We all see that moment, but
55:55
Speaker 1: the pause play it back. It is actually her toping
55:59
Speaker 1: on athlete, brilliantly acting when you didn't what you didn't
56:02
Speaker 1: see was was was was the hotel I needed after
56:12
Speaker 1: don't don't don't let I understand that because I'm telling something.
56:15
Speaker 1: When she leaped that John Hayes, I'm telling it's not
56:19
Speaker 1: a low hedge stay hedge. I just went. I'll tell
56:22
Speaker 1: you something. It was one of the great moments of
56:24
Speaker 1: me watching television and films. To watch a brilliant actress.
56:27
Speaker 1: Just just do what she has to do to just
56:29
Speaker 1: sell her character and uh. She plays two characters in
56:32
Speaker 1: this series, Jada and Kayla in the wonderfully Lifetime original
56:37
Speaker 1: movie Vanished Searching for My Sister, which premieres January twenty
56:40
Speaker 1: two pm seven Central. Thank you to Don for taking
56:43
Speaker 1: the time to talk to my fan base talk to me.
56:46
Speaker 1: What a great interview. I really appreciate you. Thank you
56:49
Speaker 1: so much. I appreciate you too, and much love to
56:52
Speaker 1: everybody out there. But stay safe and keep your head
56:56
Speaker 1: up doing all this. You know you got a home
56:59
Speaker 1: out here. Sean McDonald Money Making Conversation, any project you
57:02
Speaker 1: do with this charity solo, whatever, we're get over to
57:05
Speaker 1: the home over here, okay, and I appreciate it. Yes, yes, absolutely,
57:09
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