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Romany Malco, Kelontae Gavin, Ibtihaj Muhammad & Dr. Melanie Wilson-Lawson · The Steve Harvey Morning Show

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Speaker 1: Making Conversation broadcast live in the Atlanta, Georgia. My guest
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Speaker 1: this week on the show are an eighteen year old
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Speaker 1: young millennial gospel singer and worship leaver, Kalante Gavin. I
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Speaker 1: love this young man. She's an American Muslim US Olympic
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Speaker 1: medalists and fencing activists and entrepreneur Mohammed. She has a
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Speaker 1: b s. In Chemistry, master in public health and being
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Speaker 1: the first African American to receive a doctorate and social
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Speaker 1: work from my school, University of Houston, Dr Melanie Wilson Lawson.
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Speaker 1: And he has co starred and two movies that executive
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Speaker 1: produced and they were blockbusters. Thinking like a Man and
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Speaker 1: Thinking like a Man to Rominy Malco. Now he's on
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Speaker 1: the phone. I've been waiting on this young man. Had them,
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Speaker 1: had them hunt him down. My next guest became a
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Speaker 1: social media viral sensation at sixteen years old and in
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Speaker 1: nineteen that which launched his career after he recorded and
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Speaker 1: posted to YouTube a video of his performance of Reverend
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Speaker 1: Paul Jones I Won't Complain, which he performed and his
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Speaker 1: high school cafeterer in on the last day of school.
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Speaker 1: I don't know what he was complained about it, but
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Speaker 1: he sucked, but it was the last day of school.
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Speaker 1: The video massed over one million views. He's a gospel singer,
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Speaker 1: a worship leader who releases the bait album The Higher
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Speaker 1: Experience on April this year, which features the singles no
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Speaker 1: Ordinary Worship and Higher Please. Welcome to money Making Conversation
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Speaker 1: ninety years old, Full of vigor, Klante Gavin, What's going on,
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Speaker 1: I oppen tell yourself, young man. First of all, congratulations
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Speaker 1: when I say congratulations to you. Um, you know, I
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Speaker 1: always looked at listening to Uh, I look at my
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Speaker 1: life because I I've led a very fortunate life. But
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Speaker 1: I always know that I wasn't quick to make decisions.
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Speaker 1: I didn't really understand myself in nineteen. I didn't understand
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Speaker 1: myself at thirty. I'll be honest with you for it.
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Speaker 1: I was still confused. And you figured it out to
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Speaker 1: this point. And now you know, as you grow older,
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Speaker 1: you will change, you will be, you will do some things.
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Speaker 1: But at this point you knew this is what you
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Speaker 1: wanted to do. Correct, Yes, sir, I knew it. I
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Speaker 1: knew it. I knew with the help of God, of course,
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Speaker 1: but yes, sir, I knew it. Man, You're on it.
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Speaker 1: And so how did you put those those steps into action?
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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. Well, I grew up in a you know,
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Speaker 1: a Christian home. Um, so my mom and my dad
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Speaker 1: lived by you know, um me and my house well
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Speaker 1: serve the Lord. And so I'm so grateful for my
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Speaker 1: parents and my my guidance and and you know them
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Speaker 1: being great leaders to teach me the ways and to
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Speaker 1: know how to be in the will of God. It
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Speaker 1: wasn't forced upon me like I've heard stories of other
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Speaker 1: young people there. You know, they have the other choice.
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Speaker 1: But with my parents, that gave me a choice because
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Speaker 1: at the end of the day, they said, you you
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Speaker 1: are accountable for every decision that you make. Rather it's
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Speaker 1: good or bad, they're going to be consequences. So they
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Speaker 1: gave me the word, gave us the words, and so
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Speaker 1: whatever we did after the word was on us and
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Speaker 1: not them. And so I'm so gread for the guy
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Speaker 1: that is where I come from. Then, so try out
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Speaker 1: to my parents. Man, yes, they're definitely tell us about
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Speaker 1: your parents. What did your what did your father do
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Speaker 1: for love? What your mom doing? Because I put this
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Speaker 1: a platform for Mr gaff you know what I'm saying,
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Speaker 1: Nat old gospel superstar. Oh man to God with me
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Speaker 1: the girls. So my parents are overside of military. Me
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Speaker 1: we'd been through. My mom did a thirteen years in
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Speaker 1: the Army. My dad he was in the Marines, and
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Speaker 1: so yeah, how that how they mixed up, we don't know.
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Speaker 1: But but but yes, third, they are amazing people retired
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Speaker 1: military um there in ministry and so we're all in ministry.
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Speaker 1: So it's just so grateful they're not passing, so we're
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Speaker 1: just seven ministries. I'm grateful the guy for that. I'm
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Speaker 1: one of those seven siblings. So God's bless me um
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Speaker 1: with my shiplers across the world. But in the house
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Speaker 1: we have four. And so man pray for Maybe you're
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Speaker 1: some young ones of trying to get them, you know,
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Speaker 1: get them on the right narrow. I remember, I'm just saying, anybody, Hi,
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Speaker 1: how I found you? You know, you became part of
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Speaker 1: my brand of my awareness. I was I live in Atlanta, Georgia,
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Speaker 1: and there's a radio station. Uh, and I get up
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Speaker 1: early at four thirty and I get in my car
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Speaker 1: and I drive to my office. Is five three in
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Speaker 1: the morning. I'm telling you five through the morning, your
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Speaker 1: board be driving and it's a hip hop station. But
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Speaker 1: before they start playing hip hop, they play gospel. And
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Speaker 1: and then he was interviewing you and what was and
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Speaker 1: you were so profound And I find out you were
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Speaker 1: an eighteen years old. I went, Okay, who was this
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Speaker 1: old dude stuck in this nineteen year old body? You?
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Speaker 1: And you hear that a lot, don't you hear that?
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Speaker 1: A lot? Time? All the time, all the time, all
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Speaker 1: the time. But you know that's not that's not a
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Speaker 1: negative now because like I said, that's not a negative.
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Speaker 1: That's a because I'm complimenting you, because that's a degree
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Speaker 1: of maturity. It goes back to your parents again, a
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Speaker 1: shout out to Mr Army and Mr Marine Okay and
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Speaker 1: Mr Marine because they they you know, I come from
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Speaker 1: my my father and my mom said, no, sir, you
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Speaker 1: know that I didn't. And I would tell you I
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Speaker 1: cussed now, I knew used bad words now, but it
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Speaker 1: wasn't tonten that I said one you know, one day
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Speaker 1: now and I made up for lost time now, but
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Speaker 1: I didn't other word. I used to play basketball in
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Speaker 1: the court and I would I would talk correctly. Why
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Speaker 1: are you are you are hitting me so hard? That
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Speaker 1: is unnecessary? And that they were looking at me, go
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Speaker 1: what what? This dude o't curse? What's going on here? Why? Why? Why? Why? Why?
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Speaker 1: Why is he talking like this? Because they had put
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Speaker 1: a discipline in me, just like your parents have put
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Speaker 1: a discipline in you, a course of action that you've
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Speaker 1: chosen to follow, and you're willing to share that course
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Speaker 1: of action in your music. So talk to us about
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Speaker 1: your music, Mr Gavin, Oh my gosh, I just released
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Speaker 1: my debut album, The Hiri Spis in April, so we
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Speaker 1: set it to my amazement. Team Markets who enterprises, a
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Speaker 1: Is amazing album. I believe anybody's gonna get it. You
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Speaker 1: will not be disappointed. It's on all digital outlets, So
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Speaker 1: tell your cousin and everybody to go grab Kilon Kate
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Speaker 1: Gavin's hot new fresh album, The Higher Stems. Manly say
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Speaker 1: something like, guys are really blessing me man to travel
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Speaker 1: acrous the country and just to articulate and share the
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Speaker 1: heart of God with people you know you can't. The
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Speaker 1: reason why I name it the Higher Experiences because you
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Speaker 1: know everybody you know, we you know we've been to
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Speaker 1: higher places. But I believe God wants to take us higher,
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Speaker 1: whether than your life and your family, and your finances,
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Speaker 1: in your relationships, your loverage, whatever is. God wants to
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Speaker 1: take us higher. But in going higher, you cannot forget
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Speaker 1: about every low place you've been. You can't have a
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Speaker 1: high without a low, and hills up gonna have a
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Speaker 1: top without a bottom. So I'm grateful for every pit place,
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Speaker 1: every dark place that God. You know that that I've
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Speaker 1: went through, my family went through regardless you know, of
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Speaker 1: of of of where we come from or even where
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Speaker 1: we're going. I learned that true maturity is not just
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Speaker 1: about acknowledge in your future, but it's learning to appreciate
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Speaker 1: your path. And once you learn to appreciate what you've got,
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Speaker 1: oh man, gotta put more in your hands. And so
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Speaker 1: I'm just grateful for that. Man. So that's what the
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Speaker 1: higher experience is. Man. So your sir, yes, you have
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Speaker 1: two singles, No Ordinary Worship and then Higher No Worship Man.
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Speaker 1: And actually had a video of me saying it on
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Speaker 1: my porch in the country of South Carolina. Man, it
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Speaker 1: was viral, I mean like over the mebe at one
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Speaker 1: point five million views and uh nor new Worship is
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Speaker 1: the new fresh single. That's a little Prince Field to it,
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Speaker 1: a little print print Prince was purple Ray, Prince Prince.
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Speaker 1: You gotta see the video on YouTube because they had
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Speaker 1: the purple line and everything like it was just awesome.
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Speaker 1: We did it live in Atlanta, recorded live in Atlanta.
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Speaker 1: So norder they worship and Higher, My mom wrote, Higher Man.
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Speaker 1: My mom wrote that you're busy. You're busy. Now that
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Speaker 1: the best time, this honest conversation. You know, you have
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Speaker 1: all these you know, because you have to walk a
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Speaker 1: pretty straight line, you know, because of the fact that,
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Speaker 1: like you just mentioned, you can't have double standards when
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Speaker 1: you when you speak in the word. And so when
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Speaker 1: you know you have rappers out there, you know you
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Speaker 1: have they could do what they want to do and
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Speaker 1: they can still praise God when they get that award.
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Speaker 1: You know, you know what I'm saying they get They
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Speaker 1: still out there man, passed half pants halfway, they booted
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Speaker 1: tattoos on the in between the eyeballs. You know, they're
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Speaker 1: getting fired up and all that good stuff on a
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Speaker 1: daily basis. But they still walk out there prayers the Lord.
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Speaker 1: But you can't do that. Is that the double standards
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Speaker 1: that annoys you? Oh? Man, it's I wouldn't say it
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Speaker 1: annoys me, but you know, sometimes I get disappointed. But
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Speaker 1: then I realized that everybody that professed Jesus don't know Jesus.
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Speaker 1: You know, every I'm still getting to know who he is.
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Speaker 1: Just to see many that are older than me, it
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Speaker 1: kind of disappoints me because it's like, man, i've I've
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Speaker 1: looked up to you, or I've I've gotten something from
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Speaker 1: your ministry to where it impacted my life. But you know,
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Speaker 1: I can't see how others, you know, do whatever they
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Speaker 1: want to do, you know at the end of the day.
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Speaker 1: But I'm learning that every day I get to know
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Speaker 1: him for myself. Watch this after Sunday Surface. It's not
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Speaker 1: just a tradition weakly for me. It's in everyday kind
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Speaker 1: of love that that I get to get to engage
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Speaker 1: with the one whom whom I'm in love with that
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Speaker 1: saved my life. And I promise you that if it
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Speaker 1: was not for Jesus, I wouldn't lean across the cafeteria
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Speaker 1: table just to tell him thank you. That took me
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Speaker 1: across the world. So I'm grateful for that man. And
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Speaker 1: every day I make sure man with my foot touch
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Speaker 1: the flow. Man. I said, thank you. Man. I have
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Speaker 1: everything I want, but I got everything I need. So
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Speaker 1: tell him thank you for everything that he's walking with
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Speaker 1: So I'm gonna living with this, mate, I think you, man,
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Speaker 1: stumble and don't stomble. What I would ask of you,
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Speaker 1: And I don't know if you do this now, because
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Speaker 1: you've done some things on this show where you just
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Speaker 1: have just started spitting out motivation, spitting out encouragement. I
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Speaker 1: would love for you just just put that old video
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Speaker 1: just on your Instagram, like sixty second little just motivational moments,
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Speaker 1: because man, your your age group needs to hear from
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Speaker 1: But what you're saying, ain't got nothing to do. We're
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Speaker 1: vision that they that they want to ignore, but they
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Speaker 1: can't walk away because I'm gonna telling this man, God
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Speaker 1: gonna come talk to you whether you want to or not. Yes, Sir,
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Speaker 1: I love it. I love it. You are on it.
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Speaker 1: That's confirmation. Man. I was just thinking before I got
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Speaker 1: on this interview, what am I gonna do to that.
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Speaker 1: I need to put up a clip of of what
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Speaker 1: encouraging somebody something. You're on it many so I thank
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Speaker 1: you for that. Man, Well, I'm gonn tell you. I
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Speaker 1: want to thank you for taking the time to talk
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Speaker 1: Don't you change, Mr Gavin, don't you change another thing.
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18:55
Speaker 1: and your mom looked at you. Mom just looked at
18:57
Speaker 1: you gave that mom looking at your mom. I love
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Speaker 1: to day in this book. If you want to be
19:01
Speaker 1: inspired by anybody in this book, you gotta read this
19:04
Speaker 1: book to read about her mom. She's amazing. That was
19:06
Speaker 1: that was the turning point for you on decision making,
19:09
Speaker 1: at that critical point, at critical point in your life. Correct, Oh, yeah,
19:14
Speaker 1: I mean it's I My dad, who um you know,
19:19
Speaker 1: worked you know, for most of my childhood more than
19:22
Speaker 1: one job, and he wasn't at my track. Me couldn't
19:26
Speaker 1: make this one track meet I had. And he says,
19:28
Speaker 1: you know, if you ever it was really hot outside
19:31
Speaker 1: and work her job, He's like, if it ever gets
19:34
Speaker 1: too hard, or you know, you feel like you can't breathe,
19:37
Speaker 1: it's okay to stuff. And somewhere in that six hundred
19:41
Speaker 1: or eight hundred or whatever existence it was, I decided up,
19:46
Speaker 1: Yeah it was too hot. I decided to stop. But
19:51
Speaker 1: it's interesting how you know we we perceived things even
19:56
Speaker 1: as children as being difficult, and that still the training
20:00
Speaker 1: point in my life because my mom um, you know,
20:03
Speaker 1: she's she's always told us, you know, first and foremost,
20:08
Speaker 1: don't waste your money, right right, right? Yeah, my mom she's,
20:12
Speaker 1: she's she's a tough cookie. But I think that uh
20:16
Speaker 1: and stilling a strong work ethic in us um is
20:19
Speaker 1: what my parents always tried to do with me and
20:21
Speaker 1: my siblings. Then that's something that's definitely carried with me
20:25
Speaker 1: onto the field of play as an athlete. Now, now
20:28
Speaker 1: let's talk. Let's talk about that story. I want to
20:30
Speaker 1: gloss over because I think young people who read the
20:33
Speaker 1: book there that you read it as well as adults.
20:35
Speaker 1: You know that point that you feel that you need
20:38
Speaker 1: to give up. Did you feel that you've reached your
20:41
Speaker 1: point of frustration or you feel you maxed out? That's
20:44
Speaker 1: what you thought at that point when you was running
20:46
Speaker 1: the race and then you was giving it out and
20:48
Speaker 1: just because you're giving it out, realized that you don't
20:51
Speaker 1: always take it, you know, because you didn't really push yourself.
20:54
Speaker 1: Do you feel you push yourself to that point when
20:57
Speaker 1: you decided to stop or you just heard your father's
21:00
Speaker 1: is allowing you to just skip out on this moment?
21:04
Speaker 1: What was that? What was that? What was that moment
21:06
Speaker 1: because you know, you because your mom gave me some
21:08
Speaker 1: advice that you know you have to you want something,
21:10
Speaker 1: you have to work for, and you wrote that in
21:12
Speaker 1: your book. And so your brother, your brother looked at you,
21:15
Speaker 1: like you what you're doing? You were winning? Stop, you
21:19
Speaker 1: were winning. So so there was a lot of things
21:22
Speaker 1: running your head. I think from a very start of
21:24
Speaker 1: that race that led you to make a decision that
21:27
Speaker 1: was a very abrupt and without they even thought thinking
21:30
Speaker 1: about the process. Because a lot of people make those
21:32
Speaker 1: decisions in life, whether it's going to school or jobs
21:35
Speaker 1: or relationships, and instead of they regret those decisions. Thank goodness,
21:40
Speaker 1: your your decisions to stop running was wasn't one of
21:43
Speaker 1: those life changing decisions. You know, you can always just
21:45
Speaker 1: get on the track the next day, but a lot
21:47
Speaker 1: of people do welcous through those steps where you made
21:51
Speaker 1: that decision to walk away in that race. Well again,
21:54
Speaker 1: I mean I was really, uh, this is pretty early.
21:58
Speaker 1: I'm not even sure ivis and Liddle school yet. And
22:01
Speaker 1: I think that that particular situation, if you're young or old,
22:06
Speaker 1: we can all, like you said, you can learn from
22:09
Speaker 1: I've had moments like that throughout my career. Where I
22:12
Speaker 1: feel like maybe something is too difficult, or this situation
22:17
Speaker 1: might be too hard, and of course it may be
22:20
Speaker 1: easier to walk away. As one of very few athletes
22:25
Speaker 1: of color on the United States fencing teams and as
22:29
Speaker 1: the only Muslim woman in hijab on the United States
22:33
Speaker 1: Olympic team, there's no part of my story that's ever
22:37
Speaker 1: been easy, and a lot of it has to do with,
22:40
Speaker 1: you know, traveling this this road that not other people
22:45
Speaker 1: who look like me have done before. So you do
22:50
Speaker 1: reach that kind of crossroad in your life where you say, Okay,
22:54
Speaker 1: I haven't seen it done before, I'm not sure it's possible.
22:58
Speaker 1: I know that it's gonna be hard, and I could.
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Speaker 1: It's much easier to say, Okay, I'm not going to
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Speaker 1: do it because it's too difficult or I'm not sure
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Speaker 1: if it's possible. And my entire life has been a
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Speaker 1: leaf of face. And I think that my faith in
23:14
Speaker 1: my journey being more having more purpose than just it
23:19
Speaker 1: being about me, has led me to have this type
23:23
Speaker 1: of tenacity to keep pushing forward and to be proud
23:27
Speaker 1: of who I am, and be proud of my skin,
23:30
Speaker 1: and be proud of my job, and and say that
23:33
Speaker 1: this is who I am, and I don't really care
23:35
Speaker 1: if you if you like it or not. I'm going
23:38
Speaker 1: to create a feat at the table, not just for me,
23:41
Speaker 1: but people who look like me. And that has been
23:44
Speaker 1: something that I've been very steadfast and determined to do
23:48
Speaker 1: from the time, you know, I really set foot on
23:52
Speaker 1: the Sensing strip at twelve years old. Now it's interesting
23:55
Speaker 1: you're saying that because the fact that you have a
23:57
Speaker 1: fashion line and uh, it's called Louis right after my grandmother,
24:02
Speaker 1: your grandmother. I went to the website and I went, wow,
24:05
Speaker 1: this looks very good, looks very very fashion forward. And
24:09
Speaker 1: so what made you go into that line? Because you know,
24:12
Speaker 1: this is just me alright, I'm gonna just say this.
24:14
Speaker 1: You know, because reading your story, I constantly you constantly
24:18
Speaker 1: wanted to have fun, You constantly want to be a
24:21
Speaker 1: regular person, but your but your lifestyle. People always wanted
24:25
Speaker 1: to treat you different when you walked in the room
24:27
Speaker 1: or I had not remarked, so bullied you, especially in
24:30
Speaker 1: your middle school, in your high school years. And then
24:33
Speaker 1: you come out with a fashion line. And we're gonna
24:35
Speaker 1: talk about the doll in a minute, but let's talk
24:37
Speaker 1: about that and the importance of designing that and laying
24:40
Speaker 1: out a footprint of who you are and what people
24:43
Speaker 1: can do and uh in this in this lifestyle. Yeah. So,
24:47
Speaker 1: as a sports ambassador for the US State Department and
24:52
Speaker 1: also as a public figure within the Muslim community for
24:55
Speaker 1: a really long time, I've had, you know, events where
24:58
Speaker 1: I'm speaking in front of you know, a thousand, two thousand,
25:01
Speaker 1: three thousand people. And as a Muslim woman, I want
25:04
Speaker 1: to be modest in what I wear. So I struggled
25:08
Speaker 1: to find fashionable, modest options in the US market, to
25:13
Speaker 1: be honest, and I was ordering a lot of things
25:16
Speaker 1: from overseas, and I just kind of arrived at a
25:19
Speaker 1: point in my life where I'm like, you know what,
25:21
Speaker 1: there's a void, there's a need for this in the
25:24
Speaker 1: United States. Nobody's doing it well. And my siblings and
25:28
Speaker 1: I decided that we would do that. So we literally
25:31
Speaker 1: started our company in Los Angeles a leap of faith
25:35
Speaker 1: and really out of necessity. It was time for there
25:40
Speaker 1: to be something that's made here in the United States
25:43
Speaker 1: for women who want to dress modestly but also be fashionable.
25:46
Speaker 1: Being modest doesn't mean being douty or wearing dark colors.
25:50
Speaker 1: I mean muscle women like anyone else, want to express
25:53
Speaker 1: ourselves through what our what we wear, and it just
25:57
Speaker 1: seemed very fitting for me. Am I so links to
26:00
Speaker 1: start the company really quickly. I went to Rwanda last
26:05
Speaker 1: summer UM on like a service trip for the State's
26:09
Speaker 1: department and with a nonprofit, and it's really interesting to
26:13
Speaker 1: see a country that's experienced um such a traumatic event
26:18
Speaker 1: within the last years and how toxpope with it. They
26:22
Speaker 1: talk about the genocide every day, They have a memorial,
26:26
Speaker 1: they have memorial museums, and they have these different um
26:29
Speaker 1: trips where they're constantly bringing people and it's very new.
26:32
Speaker 1: There's a lot of tears that are still shed because
26:35
Speaker 1: you know, like generations were lost and you have people
26:40
Speaker 1: who committed you know, the killing next to survivors having
26:44
Speaker 1: to live side by side. But I think what's really
26:47
Speaker 1: what's really important to learn about Rwanda is that they
26:50
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26:53
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26:56
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26:59
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27:06
Speaker 1: I think that's how we arrive at this moment in
27:09
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27:12
Speaker 1: you have families being separated as supporters because you know,
27:16
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29:17
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29:20
Speaker 1: the first African American to receive a PhD and social
29:23
Speaker 1: work from my alma alma Mallor University Houston Graduate School
29:28
Speaker 1: of Social Work. In two thousand two. She earned a
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Speaker 1: master's in public health from the University of Texas Health
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Speaker 1: Science Center School of Public Health and a Bachelor of
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Speaker 1: Science degree a chemistry from the Historic Third Word straight
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Speaker 1: out of Third World Texas, Texas Southern University, where she
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Speaker 1: was the receiption recipient of a twenty level Distinguished Alumni Award.
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Speaker 1: That's huge. That's huge right there. She's a social scientist
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Speaker 1: and inner spirit life coach. Please welcome to Money Making Conversation.
29:56
Speaker 1: Dr Melanie Wilson. Hello, Hello, and Sean. What's that enough
30:03
Speaker 1: that doesn't enough about you? Does enough about it? I
30:07
Speaker 1: was like, who, here's that person? You don't guess that person?
30:10
Speaker 1: You're absolutely correct. It is pretty effective. And people often
30:14
Speaker 1: wonder how the journey brought me here. There the things
30:17
Speaker 1: that I'm doing now that I'm passionate about it that
30:19
Speaker 1: I love, which is related to strengthening the inner court.
30:23
Speaker 1: And I tell you, um, I didn't realize that you
30:26
Speaker 1: will a love my to the university. Man, well so
30:30
Speaker 1: we are cougars. Yes, man, we are true cougus. You're
30:32
Speaker 1: tiger a cougar at all? About that you look at
30:40
Speaker 1: you are the movie av a talk that you you
30:42
Speaker 1: got all the beast of the jungle out there, the
30:45
Speaker 1: big five, the big the big five, as they say.
30:47
Speaker 1: When I appreciate you having me on, thank you so
30:51
Speaker 1: much for the invitation. I'm glad to be here. Well,
30:53
Speaker 1: first of all, you know, I'm glad to have you
30:55
Speaker 1: on the show. And I want to talk about that
30:58
Speaker 1: education might always talk about. See I changed my major
31:01
Speaker 1: several times before I eventually got a degree of mathematics
31:04
Speaker 1: and my minor and sociology. And you know, not saying
31:08
Speaker 1: that you change your degree, but I always like to
31:11
Speaker 1: see people who allow themselves to expand allow themselves to say,
31:15
Speaker 1: not be pigeonholed. And I looked at your degree in
31:17
Speaker 1: social work, you know, public health, uh, chemistry. That diversity
31:22
Speaker 1: really allows you to communicate a lot of different levels
31:25
Speaker 1: and to be able to walk into the room and
31:27
Speaker 1: be very comfortable when you speak. Is that God is correct?
31:31
Speaker 1: That is correct? And I tell you I was really um,
31:34
Speaker 1: I was just that obedient child, and you know when
31:37
Speaker 1: my dad said, need to go to text or southing
31:40
Speaker 1: and major in chemistry, and that's what I did. And
31:44
Speaker 1: I did that and I enjoyed that until I had
31:47
Speaker 1: an opportunity to work with the Court and of Energy
31:49
Speaker 1: one summer for an internship, a summer internship, and we
31:53
Speaker 1: were dowing auto clay. You know, it was Colic paltoption research,
31:57
Speaker 1: and we were working with auto clay and I would
32:00
Speaker 1: just in the process and I was like saying to myself,
32:03
Speaker 1: I just can't imagine working in a lab like this,
32:07
Speaker 1: you know, for the rest of my life. I want
32:09
Speaker 1: to have healthy babies. I'm not sure this is really
32:11
Speaker 1: a good fit for me. But I was always that
32:14
Speaker 1: obedient child. I said, you know, I've come too far
32:18
Speaker 1: not to go on and finishes with the degree. For
32:20
Speaker 1: I went on and I got the degree, and I
32:21
Speaker 1: went into UM the master's program here in the health
32:25
Speaker 1: Frankston and in in Houston at the University of Texas. And
32:28
Speaker 1: when I saw that they were having initially in toxicology,
32:31
Speaker 1: but when I saw they were having so much fun
32:33
Speaker 1: and and family and community health, I was like, you
32:36
Speaker 1: know what, San, That's where I need to be because
32:39
Speaker 1: I just spent my personality. I've always spend a compassionate
32:43
Speaker 1: and epathetic type of person and so that's when I
32:47
Speaker 1: started navigating my sales towards in a direction that I
32:51
Speaker 1: was really comfortable with. And so from there, um, I
32:55
Speaker 1: just kind of blocked them and and had the opportunity
32:57
Speaker 1: to go on and get my doctors in social work,
33:00
Speaker 1: which was which was as phenomenal, and from it and
33:02
Speaker 1: now I am just doing what I chose and to
33:07
Speaker 1: do I and I just I think it's a great,
33:09
Speaker 1: incredible journey, and I would encourage people, you know what,
33:11
Speaker 1: no matter what you're doing, it it's not what you
33:13
Speaker 1: really want to do, you can always navigate yourself and
33:17
Speaker 1: move towards the directions that most makes you. Laugh doctor doctor, Um,
33:24
Speaker 1: don't give you credit now, don't. We're just laying out
33:25
Speaker 1: it gives a lot of docs out there. There aren't doctors,
33:27
Speaker 1: you know. So I'm just going to say the whole world, doctor,
33:31
Speaker 1: how do I just want to navigate that? How do
33:33
Speaker 1: want to make a decision to to create change in
33:36
Speaker 1: their life, especially when they just sit around based on fear,
33:39
Speaker 1: because that's why people don't make change. They're afraid. How
33:41
Speaker 1: does want to navigate that change. Well, you know, the
33:45
Speaker 1: first thing they have to do in that process, and
33:48
Speaker 1: I've been refer to it as understanding this journey that
33:52
Speaker 1: we're actually on. And that's how the inter spirit part
33:55
Speaker 1: comes into play with um, what I do and what
33:59
Speaker 1: I gonna help, you know, God people into that direction
34:03
Speaker 1: in terms of navigation, and I think that people understand
34:06
Speaker 1: that they have the power us who we to choose
34:10
Speaker 1: the mission that they want to have in this life.
34:14
Speaker 1: Then the first step is to first identify and understand
34:18
Speaker 1: that you have that power. I think a lot of
34:20
Speaker 1: times people feel powerless in this process. So you have
34:24
Speaker 1: to kind of break it down. And I always say
34:26
Speaker 1: you trying to have to deconstruct to reconstruct your life.
34:30
Speaker 1: And when you know with themselves that you know you
34:33
Speaker 1: are just not content with what the outcome is and
34:38
Speaker 1: and in the direction that things are going, that's the
34:41
Speaker 1: first step is to identify that you know that within stuff,
34:44
Speaker 1: and then you have to figure out what it is
34:47
Speaker 1: you want to do. You know, what is the mission
34:49
Speaker 1: that you want to be on and develop an action
34:52
Speaker 1: plan to achieve that, to to get on the right trust,
34:57
Speaker 1: to to live the life of your deeds, to do
34:59
Speaker 1: things if you want. Let's Michelle, let me give you
35:01
Speaker 1: an example of what it is that I do so
35:04
Speaker 1: so wizards can understand how this process works. And this
35:08
Speaker 1: is a good analogy. Let's say you're drinking a cup
35:11
Speaker 1: of coffee and somebody bumps into you and you still
35:15
Speaker 1: the coffee. Okay, you still the coffee. You know why
35:18
Speaker 1: you fill the coffee because coffee is what was in
35:21
Speaker 1: the cup. It seems within the cup you wouldn't still
35:25
Speaker 1: the tea. And so the analogy that I'm making is
35:29
Speaker 1: is what's inside of you when you get bumped in,
35:32
Speaker 1: like when you are unsure in life, when things are
35:36
Speaker 1: happening to you, what's inside of you is what comes up.
35:40
Speaker 1: And so as an industry a life coach, and when
35:42
Speaker 1: I focus on that, foods up the spirit. When I
35:45
Speaker 1: focused on instructening that inside of a person, that's how
35:48
Speaker 1: they get out of that fear as they're able to
35:51
Speaker 1: make the tangible step to do what you're talking about.
35:54
Speaker 1: Because what comes what's inside of you is what comes out.
35:59
Speaker 1: So it is exide that comes out of angers inside
36:02
Speaker 1: when life functions, when things happen, that's what comes out.
36:06
Speaker 1: Its rage, it jealousy of resentment. But if I can
36:11
Speaker 1: get people to strengthen the other things that should be
36:15
Speaker 1: inside of their court, which is love, joy, peace, kindness, business, facefulness,
36:22
Speaker 1: the most important self control, then they have the ability
36:28
Speaker 1: to do what you're saying to turn it around. And
36:31
Speaker 1: that's and that's kind of what I focused on. You
36:33
Speaker 1: cannot protect anybody's the point that they can't experience life.
36:37
Speaker 1: You gotta allow them experienced life. But while they're experience
36:40
Speaker 1: in life is that's that's the part that you know,
36:42
Speaker 1: I really am enjoying this conversation because you know it's
36:46
Speaker 1: what your your social scientists and your inner spirit life coach,
36:50
Speaker 1: which I think is really important to hear on this
36:52
Speaker 1: show because people want to make change. That's why I
36:55
Speaker 1: love the fact that that that millennial generation decided to say,
36:59
Speaker 1: you know something, I don't want to work for anybody.
37:00
Speaker 1: I want to work for me. And they get really
37:03
Speaker 1: cute because of that. I was listening to a show
37:05
Speaker 1: driving in this morning. It was really cuteing, um, you know, millennials,
37:09
Speaker 1: because they don't save. I was trying to figure out, Okay,
37:11
Speaker 1: when I was twenty eight, what was I saving? When
37:13
Speaker 1: I was thirty four, what was I saving? I'm trying
37:15
Speaker 1: to figure out what is When did the rules? When
37:18
Speaker 1: did the rules that that that that that eighteen to
37:20
Speaker 1: thirty four age group, and each each generation was saving money,
37:24
Speaker 1: they were that they were that worthy to stay. You
37:26
Speaker 1: know something, I'm a save for my future, you know something.
37:29
Speaker 1: When you're that age, there is no future. The future
37:31
Speaker 1: is now. Why can I get my car? Where can
37:34
Speaker 1: I get my house? Where can I give me some
37:36
Speaker 1: new shoes? And so when I hear people criticize millennials,
37:38
Speaker 1: I'm going like, Okay, are you kidding me? Are you
37:41
Speaker 1: kidding me? At twenty nine years old? Who do you
37:43
Speaker 1: know was saving money? Who was thinking about that the
37:46
Speaker 1: stock market at twenty nine years of age on a
37:48
Speaker 1: regular job. You know, if you if your company was
37:52
Speaker 1: like I worked at IBM and they had that little
37:55
Speaker 1: sharing program. You you pay a dollar, they pay a dollar,
37:57
Speaker 1: you know, and that that helped me out, that got
37:59
Speaker 1: me to that into the stock game. But again that
38:03
Speaker 1: was my company had that program at that time. I'm
38:06
Speaker 1: not saying that program exists today because people hold you
38:08
Speaker 1: accountable everything you said in public. But Sean said this
38:11
Speaker 1: he way back then, way back then, when I was working. Now,
38:15
Speaker 1: they might not do that right now, So don't hold
38:17
Speaker 1: me account, but I'll just letting you know is that
38:19
Speaker 1: when I look at people criticized, there's so many people
38:21
Speaker 1: want to criticize people when they want to be themselves,
38:24
Speaker 1: when they want to make decisions for themselves that benefit them,
38:28
Speaker 1: that they get criticized for that. And I just feel
38:31
Speaker 1: that that generation is being pressurized, especially with social media.
38:36
Speaker 1: You post the picture, you're like, you don't like share,
38:40
Speaker 1: you know, remember right I did? I posted one of
38:43
Speaker 1: my videos and somebody told me, you know, I look gay? Huh?
38:48
Speaker 1: I don't know. How do you look at I was
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Speaker 1: of my interview? Just say I look at other person?
38:53
Speaker 1: You bear too dark? Your beer too dark? Okay? What
38:56
Speaker 1: the heck is this? What these are the criticist that
38:59
Speaker 1: you get in social media, and so you have to
39:01
Speaker 1: deal with these issues about okay, if you if you
39:04
Speaker 1: take that personal, then you could be walking down the
39:06
Speaker 1: street trying to walk in a certain way. Well, people
39:08
Speaker 1: talking about out walk. I don't know what that means.
39:11
Speaker 1: You know you know what my beer too dog got?
39:13
Speaker 1: I gotta change their look, you know. But people can
39:15
Speaker 1: get it to your heads with these with these negative statements,
39:19
Speaker 1: and they can change your your objectives, your plans. And
39:23
Speaker 1: so it's good to listen to young people when they
39:26
Speaker 1: when they unsure, just calm them down, say what's your
39:30
Speaker 1: what's your problem? Don't don't don't ignore that, ignore that
39:32
Speaker 1: ignorant people are talking. The ignorant people know the other things,
39:37
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39:39
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39:53
Speaker 1: well this n and they really suppressed who they really
39:56
Speaker 1: are because of judgment, because of what they see other
40:00
Speaker 1: people may think or say about them. And so what
40:03
Speaker 1: you have is with society of people who can't be real.
40:06
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40:11
Speaker 1: so that's why people find themselves in the situations that
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40:18
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40:22
Speaker 1: You know, we focus on peeling about those lads. We
40:25
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40:28
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40:33
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40:37
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40:59
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41:02
Speaker 1: I want to say thank you for coming on my show. Secondly,
41:05
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41:16
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Speaker 1: just young man since Las Vegas. I believe Las Vegas.
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Speaker 1: The last time I physically saw him, you know, we
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Speaker 1: said we're gonna talk. Four years later we talked. My
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Speaker 1: neck is an incredibly talented film and television actor whose
43:35
Speaker 1: credits spanned comedies and dramas such as The Forty year
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43:46
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43:56
Speaker 1: I said, who is this talent to do? I used
43:58
Speaker 1: to watch Weeds on the regular base CBS. Is a
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Speaker 1: Good Wife and many more. He's appearing next in the
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Speaker 1: movie Night School with Kevin Hard and Tiffany Hattish that
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44:13
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Speaker 1: with the money making conversations Romney Malcolm, Hey, what's up? Man?
44:25
Speaker 1: Thank you? Thank you when you right four years ago.
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Speaker 1: And you know what, I never forgot run you never forgotten.
44:36
Speaker 1: I was actually right this this brother want to talk
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Speaker 1: to me? Hey, man, you know something you know Robinney. Uh.
44:42
Speaker 1: First of all, Man, congratulations on your success. Let's let's
44:45
Speaker 1: get that out of the way first, because of the
44:47
Speaker 1: fact that you know, it's an interesting era that we
44:50
Speaker 1: have with African American talent on town. I know, you
44:54
Speaker 1: know your Trinidaddy, and you know, let's let's put that
44:56
Speaker 1: out there. Let's put that out there correctly. And so
45:00
Speaker 1: so we're working. We're working. We're working not just on
45:04
Speaker 1: reality shows. You know, that was a period where reality
45:06
Speaker 1: shows dominated African American presence on television. So what do
45:11
Speaker 1: you think is happening at the just just feel us
45:13
Speaker 1: a little bit of detail about about what's going on
45:16
Speaker 1: in your world, and we're gonna go to some funny
45:18
Speaker 1: things that you're doing. And I saw that. I saw
45:20
Speaker 1: that prison logic. Man, we gotta talk about that. But
45:21
Speaker 1: we're gonna talk about mine, all right, man. And that's
45:25
Speaker 1: the well. Right after that, I want to start by
45:28
Speaker 1: saying thank you, really seriously, thank you. I really appreciate
45:31
Speaker 1: you having me on and my brother following up on
45:33
Speaker 1: your word. I appreciate that too, um. And I want
45:36
Speaker 1: to congratulate you on hall of your success as well.
45:39
Speaker 1: Thank you. Um uh yeah. I remem when we first met,
45:41
Speaker 1: like I think it might have been on the on
45:43
Speaker 1: the Steve Harvey Show, and I was but man, did
45:46
Speaker 1: I did that? Brother? Man? You were solid dude, man.
45:48
Speaker 1: And so anyway to be here talking to you with
45:50
Speaker 1: the privilege to answer your question my duty. I think
45:52
Speaker 1: that's something. I think that part of the major shift
45:55
Speaker 1: is I believe to like the report came out, um
45:59
Speaker 1: you know maybe like uh four years ago, it would
46:05
Speaker 1: basically show that African American dollars responded like African Americans
46:10
Speaker 1: as a whole responded, not as a whole, but just
46:13
Speaker 1: the general audience of Africa, you know, TV audience African
46:16
Speaker 1: responded to advertising, and I think that that kind of
46:22
Speaker 1: set off an alarm uh um. And there were shows
46:25
Speaker 1: that were kind of pioneering the way for that, shows
46:28
Speaker 1: like Kevin Hart's UM, Real Husbands, h Hollywood. You know,
46:35
Speaker 1: I can't remember some of the other shows. But because
46:37
Speaker 1: the running pick my tone is a little early thing,
46:40
Speaker 1: we're gonna put it out there. You know, Anthony Anderson's show,
46:43
Speaker 1: you know that Blackish, you know, and I remember I
46:45
Speaker 1: talked like I remember before he came out, Anthony's called
46:48
Speaker 1: me and I said, Anthony that title man's crazy, and
46:51
Speaker 1: I brought him on the show. I still supported it,
46:53
Speaker 1: brought him on Steve Show, helped launching launch of show,
46:56
Speaker 1: had him set in for Steve, him and uh Tracy
46:59
Speaker 1: Ellis Raw set in and four hour show to promote
47:01
Speaker 1: because I always know, you gotta put the brand out there.
47:03
Speaker 1: That's been the main thing about my theme has been
47:06
Speaker 1: you gotta if people don't know you, they can't find you,
47:09
Speaker 1: they can't find you, you gotta give them a choice.
47:13
Speaker 1: And that's you know, and that's the thing. You know,
47:14
Speaker 1: and look, I know people in your audiences are screaming
47:16
Speaker 1: right now, don't forget scandal, don't forget by all the
47:19
Speaker 1: day this shows, you know, don't get And they're right,
47:22
Speaker 1: you know, but a lot of these shows came along,
47:25
Speaker 1: and you know, um and a lot of the incentivize
47:30
Speaker 1: these networks to begin, you know, having more diversity because
47:35
Speaker 1: they saw that actually the black audience turned to support
47:38
Speaker 1: you know, black content. And you know also like, uh,
47:42
Speaker 1: you know, I grew up in an era where you know,
47:44
Speaker 1: we watched Dynasty and the Dukes of Hazards and shows.
47:50
Speaker 1: That's what there was, you know what I mean. Don't
47:52
Speaker 1: get me wrong. I like Jeffersons and my favorite was
47:55
Speaker 1: always the Jeffersons and and and and good Times. But
47:59
Speaker 1: the reality there was is that we didn't have as
48:01
Speaker 1: much representation. Now that there is much representation, people choose it,
48:05
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, And people like to see
48:07
Speaker 1: something of reflective likeness. They relate to it more, right,
48:09
Speaker 1: often the content of speaking about things that they can
48:11
Speaker 1: relate to. And he was on the marketing dollars and
48:15
Speaker 1: so you know, when we see an advertisement, were actually
48:18
Speaker 1: influenced by it, and that makes a huge different to
48:20
Speaker 1: the people that are marketing you know, especially especially now
48:24
Speaker 1: that people can go anywhere to watch television. You know,
48:27
Speaker 1: and I read this book was breaking down how like
48:30
Speaker 1: the people who even shop at Walmart don't even own
48:34
Speaker 1: like external hardware for their televisions, meaning they don't have cable,
48:38
Speaker 1: they don't have any kind of box. They're still watching
48:40
Speaker 1: the regular network television. That plays a role in it
48:44
Speaker 1: as well. But anyway, I'm sorry, I'm just going on.
48:46
Speaker 1: Oh no, no, no, no, no, no, no no, no, Malcole.
48:49
Speaker 1: That's what this show is about. That's why it's called
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Speaker 1: money Making Conversation. That's why I ru Sean McDonald's host
48:54
Speaker 1: because I can bring talent like you. We're gonna talk
48:56
Speaker 1: about your TV, You're gonna talk about all that, but
48:58
Speaker 1: this you know, your mindset, because people need to understand
49:01
Speaker 1: that there's a three sixty platform for a guy like
49:03
Speaker 1: you to be successful as about as you are. You
49:05
Speaker 1: you understand the business, you understand why you're not working,
49:08
Speaker 1: why are you being chosen for roles, and how you
49:10
Speaker 1: consistently can be there, And a lot of people don't
49:13
Speaker 1: understand it. They really just think that just show up
49:15
Speaker 1: and you just are just you for a role. If
49:17
Speaker 1: you want longevity. You have to understand what you're walking
49:20
Speaker 1: into and you're saying that, you're saying it, Yeah, you
49:24
Speaker 1: really do. And you know the thing, uh, you know
49:28
Speaker 1: that I think that we under I think that the
49:30
Speaker 1: thing that we underestimate in the process of doing all
49:32
Speaker 1: of this is that I've seen a lot of people
49:35
Speaker 1: come before me, and um, I've seen them pissed off
49:39
Speaker 1: this as many you know, big main people as I've
49:41
Speaker 1: supposedly pissed off. And you know, because the fact that
49:45
Speaker 1: they didn't want to do a job, you chose to
49:48
Speaker 1: honor their integrity before honoring you know, their pockets. And
49:52
Speaker 1: you know that's not a language that spoke very common
49:56
Speaker 1: in in in uh in the HollyHood. And so people
49:59
Speaker 1: with egos with we take it personally when you turned
50:01
Speaker 1: down that projects. But what I have found is that
50:06
Speaker 1: you know, I founded slay to someone self preservation in
50:09
Speaker 1: the sense that you know, I never thought this. I
50:13
Speaker 1: always used to wonder should I get a bigger agents,
50:15
Speaker 1: should have bigger manager, should do that? But when it
50:18
Speaker 1: really boils down to it, your best representation of your
50:21
Speaker 1: body of work in this business, that your best representation.
50:25
Speaker 1: It will go out and speak on behalf of you
50:27
Speaker 1: on every fritinal platform we know something about. Like seriously,
50:31
Speaker 1: when I introduced you at the beginning Weed, which is
50:34
Speaker 1: on Showtime, Um, that's when I first became a fan
50:38
Speaker 1: of yours, you know. And it's because you took a character,
50:42
Speaker 1: you know, and in that world you know, usually it
50:45
Speaker 1: is rough, but you played it like it was. It
50:50
Speaker 1: was funny, dangerous. Does that make sense? And and and
50:55
Speaker 1: so when you when you can take a role and
50:57
Speaker 1: then you can shape it, and I think that's what
50:59
Speaker 1: you do, so feel that's what you do so well
51:01
Speaker 1: with all your roles, you know, whether you play a butler,
51:03
Speaker 1: or you playing some suave dude, or you playing a player,
51:07
Speaker 1: or you playing a doctor or whatever, all these roles
51:10
Speaker 1: you just shape it. How do you come up? How
51:12
Speaker 1: do you make a decision on where you're gonna take
51:14
Speaker 1: these characters? When you when you auditioning, Um, you know
51:19
Speaker 1: that's the thing. That's like what I'll do, Like I
51:21
Speaker 1: was doing it yesterday, I was saying for my show,
51:23
Speaker 1: I just basically take those words and take the scenario.
51:26
Speaker 1: I don't want to know who you expect me to play.
51:28
Speaker 1: I want to read it. Just read it like a
51:30
Speaker 1: book and and then a nature, I just developed an
51:33
Speaker 1: opinion about every person in the movie. And then I said,
51:35
Speaker 1: who am I supposed to be playing that dude? Oh,
51:38
Speaker 1: that dude, he's the so and so. Because I already
51:40
Speaker 1: have a genuine opinion, I'm not thinking about it of
51:43
Speaker 1: like thinking about it from the perspective of how should
51:46
Speaker 1: I play this? No, I'm really just these characters and
51:49
Speaker 1: to people I trying to think about, can I relate
51:52
Speaker 1: this to real life and include not vality system and
51:56
Speaker 1: to some degree or another, it's like, once you know
51:58
Speaker 1: you can hunt your own food, the game change. Now Okay,
52:01
Speaker 1: now you know what that means. Now romany, okay, Rushan mcdown.
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Speaker 1: It's promoting right now before tween, So I got to
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52:15
Speaker 1: I'm just letting everybody know that it's outstanding. Um the
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52:31
Speaker 1: fact that you're doing this and but I wanted a
52:33
Speaker 1: lot of independent people to hear this to let them
52:35
Speaker 1: know that, yeah, there's no walk of shame and getting
52:38
Speaker 1: your movie done, there's no walk of shame. And how
52:40
Speaker 1: you get it distributed. The thing is that it's your dream.
52:44
Speaker 1: But make sure you you know your tire thing up,
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Speaker 1: you know, make sure that you have the releases signed off.
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Speaker 1: Don't just have people talk about I show up. And
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Speaker 1: off on. Be professional from day one, from up start.
52:59
Speaker 1: And that's really and that's what you did with this movie.
53:01
Speaker 1: But before we go, I wanted to bring up something
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53:06
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53:18
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Speaker 1: a lot. I used to be a White House consultant,
53:23
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53:26
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53:30
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53:32
Speaker 1: I've sent a lot of time on social social media
53:35
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Speaker 1: going on. Was like, you know, I didn't want to
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Speaker 1: gain nothing that I didn't add any value, you know
53:41
Speaker 1: what I mean? And so I was like, I would
53:43
Speaker 1: love to be a part of a social networks that
53:45
Speaker 1: actually added value, that I could look to that maybe
53:48
Speaker 1: it inspired me, maybe gave me insight on how to
53:50
Speaker 1: have better health, but just keep me in the community
53:53
Speaker 1: of positive people. And you know, with everything going on
53:55
Speaker 1: in politics right now, people just feel like they can
53:58
Speaker 1: just be as disrespectful and it's emotionally emotionally inconsiderate as
54:02
Speaker 1: they want to be. On social networks, you know, you
54:05
Speaker 1: could build up a huge audience and track a huge
54:07
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54:11
Speaker 1: change an algorithm and you no longer have access to
54:14
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54:19
Speaker 1: to me, and I've never been to do that's been
54:21
Speaker 1: comfortable with the status quo. So I was like, look,
54:24
Speaker 1: let me just create my own network and I'm just
54:26
Speaker 1: going to do an experiment. It's just an experiment, and
54:28
Speaker 1: I want to see if I invest as much time
54:31
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54:36
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54:39
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Speaker 1: a place that adds value. You go, you feel like
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55:16
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55:18
Speaker 1: and that's what I want to be involved. And as
55:19
Speaker 1: a result of that, I don't really engage as much
55:22
Speaker 1: on the more you know, popular platforms because I'm usually
55:25
Speaker 1: involved in my own platform. But but the reward is
55:28
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55:30
Speaker 1: learned it ain't about reaching, it ain't about reaching four
55:32
Speaker 1: hundred million people. It's about reaching the people who want
55:35
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55:37
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55:41
Speaker 1: Thank you? Thank you. We're gonna talk soon, and I'm
55:44
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55:46
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