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WNBA Superstar CANDACE PARKER: UNAPOLOGETIC ESPN Film directed by Joie Jacoby discusses the revealing documentary. · The Steve Harvey Morning Show

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  Speaker 6: your own. My guess is the director of Candice Parker,
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  Speaker 6: the intimate ESPN film Candice Parker, Unpologetic. Candas is one
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  Speaker 6: of the biggest stars in basketball, a WNBA champion and
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  Speaker 6: pioneer who not only fulfilled the way the expectations of
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  Speaker 6: her being surrounded with this great potential as a young teenager,
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  Speaker 6: but redefine what it means to be a woman's sports
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  Speaker 4: The director Joey Jacobi. How you doing, Joey, We're doing
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  Speaker 4: really well.
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  Speaker 5: Thank you for having me.
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  Speaker 4: Well.
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  Speaker 6: First of all, you know what I got excited. It
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  Speaker 6: came across my desk. There was a Candas Parker docu
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  Speaker 6: film that was out there, and I got a chance
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  Speaker 6: to interview the director. Because there's a certain mindset, because
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  Speaker 6: you look at things from a certain perspective.
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  Speaker 4: And the first thing I wanted to know, like I
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  Speaker 4: was looking at your.
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  Speaker 6: Background, you know, body of work Inclues Return to Mexico,
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  Speaker 6: To Mexico two thousand and nine, London twenty twelve.
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  Speaker 4: Guess something else you're gonna put.
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  Speaker 5: That actually film?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah?
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  Speaker 6: Absolutely, I know Games of the Opiad twenty twelve and
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  Speaker 6: Sarah and Suzanne twenty fourteen. Now when I look at
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  Speaker 6: that and then I look at the Candas Parker, how
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  Speaker 6: did you feel there was something that you wanted to
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  Speaker 6: navigate your strengths into that particular docu series.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean yes, I think I've always been. I
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  Speaker 7: started off in sports. I was working with ESPN straight
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  Speaker 7: out of college and worked my way up to being
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  Speaker 7: like a senior producer there, and I became known for
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  Speaker 7: telling stories that were about when things are more when
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  Speaker 7: when sport changes the world and enacts social change. So
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  Speaker 7: one of the first pieces was Return to Mexico City,
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  Speaker 7: in nineteen sixty eight, and you know that was the reason.
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  Speaker 5: That was, you know, that was where where we went
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  Speaker 5: with that.
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  Speaker 7: But Candace is is within my wheelhouse in terms of sports.
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  Speaker 5: But in the later years, I've been doing.
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  Speaker 7: More biopics and really in depth studies of people, and
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  Speaker 7: I connected with Candace, you know, as a fan.
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  Speaker 5: First of all, I was a huge fan of her work.
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  Speaker 7: And there are people that I would look around and
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  Speaker 7: I'm like, you know, when they're talking about goats of
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  Speaker 7: the w N, sometimes Candace's name isn't as high as
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  Speaker 7: I think it deserves to be on those lists. She
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  Speaker 7: is looked over beyond you know, they always are talking
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  Speaker 7: about Sue and Diana Tarassi and you know, we start
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  Speaker 7: to hear a lot of these names before Candace is
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  Speaker 7: and I'm wondering why. And I really wanted to present
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  Speaker 7: a very you know, objective, data driven film where you're seeing,
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  Speaker 7: you know, her work speak for itself and learning about
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  Speaker 7: her journey. And when you really dig deep into Candace,
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  Speaker 7: what's interesting about her is that she is unique to
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  Speaker 7: any of all of these athletes, all of these women athletes,
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  Speaker 7: because she had a child very early in her career,
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  Speaker 7: which she was literally a rookie and had all of
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  Speaker 7: this expectation put on her and still has has has
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  Speaker 7: been one.
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  Speaker 5: Of the greatest.
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  Speaker 7: Beyond that, it's you know when you you also learn
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  Speaker 7: that she was playing nearly the three hundred and sixty
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  Speaker 7: five days a year basketball professionally, and can you imagine
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  Speaker 7: what that puts on the strain on a person's body,
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  Speaker 7: going to Russia, China, Istanbul for the majority of her
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  Speaker 7: year and really looking at the WMBA as a summer
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  Speaker 7: job as like, you know, her side job, her side
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  Speaker 7: hustle because it wasn't paying the bills. And that's the
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  Speaker 7: story for so many other elite women athletes in this country.
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  Speaker 5: They have to go abroad to make a living.
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  Speaker 7: So I really wanted to just show what her life
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  Speaker 7: really encompasses. And there's all of the challenges that this
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  Speaker 7: woman has gone through and still you know been She's
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  Speaker 7: the only w NBA star to ever win a championship
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  Speaker 7: with three different franchises, So you know, it's her.
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  Speaker 5: She's the winning sauce. She's the reason.
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  Speaker 7: It's not you know, it doesn't matter where she goes,
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  Speaker 7: she's going to win. And you know, she had a
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  Speaker 7: lot of unlucky years in Lake in La. You know,
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  Speaker 7: the management there was really messed up. So I feel
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  Speaker 7: like I wanted to just put it put out you know.
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  Speaker 7: I really just objectively looked at her story. Put it
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  Speaker 7: out there, and you can and you did, and you did.
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  Speaker 5: Joy.
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  Speaker 4: I was speaking of Joey Jacobe.
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  Speaker 6: She's the director of the new docu FHM, a biopic
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  Speaker 6: of Candice Parker Unapologetic ESPN Films. The word that keeps
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  Speaker 6: coming up over and over is underrated and underappreciating, you know.
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  Speaker 4: And I never I'm gonna tell you.
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  Speaker 6: I remember I saw it live when Candice Parker won
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  Speaker 6: that slam dunk contest against Jails were there, I saw it,
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  Speaker 6: you know. So that's how And I remember I met
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  Speaker 6: her in the spring and I brought that up to her,
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  Speaker 6: about the impact of that dunk. But I and so
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  Speaker 6: and I realized that, you know, and she told me
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  Speaker 6: her father said, You're more than that dunk, you know,
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  Speaker 6: and not not base your career on that dunk. When
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  Speaker 6: I spoke to her, and because I asked her that
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  Speaker 6: question in front of the room full of she was
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  Speaker 6: a panelist along with La Rams coach Sean McVay and so.
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  Speaker 6: But the thing that comes across to me when I
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  Speaker 6: look at the word undappreciated and underrated is that Candice
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  Speaker 6: Parker is absolutely beautiful, And I'm wondering has that been
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  Speaker 6: something that's been used against her?
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  Speaker 4: Because she's so attractive?
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  Speaker 6: If she wasn't to me, if she wasn't an athlete,
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  Speaker 6: she could probably be a model. Could that have you know,
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  Speaker 6: she's a cute girl. She doesn't work hard, things get
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  Speaker 6: her way, you know, could that have hurt her in
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  Speaker 6: her athletic world, that she's just attractive woman that really
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  Speaker 6: doesn't put in the work and probably just gets handed things.
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  Speaker 4: Your thoughts.
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  Speaker 7: I think that there has been animosity towards her by
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  Speaker 7: her peers because of the way she looks, because of
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  Speaker 7: her appearance. Thoughts that she was getting endorsements or she's
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  Speaker 7: getting marketing pushes because of her looks versus other athletes.
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  Speaker 1: You know, she.
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  Speaker 7: Also is a person who is very much committed to
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  Speaker 7: her work and her family. So she's not out there
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  Speaker 7: in the streets hanging with her teammates all the time,
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  Speaker 7: like she's not that person. So she's a very private
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  Speaker 7: person who spends a lot of time with her family
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  Speaker 7: or doing or on the court and training and getting
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  Speaker 7: her body and being ready for the game and now
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  Speaker 7: broadcasting and the other things that she's doing.
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  Speaker 5: But yeah, I mean she's about her business.
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  Speaker 7: So I definitely think that between her appearance and the
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  Speaker 7: perceptions that come with that, coupled with the fact that
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  Speaker 7: she's really a focused competitor, probably made her peers have
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  Speaker 7: a lot.
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  Speaker 5: Of animosity towards her.
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  Speaker 7: And we saw that in the twenty nineteen pool that
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  Speaker 7: came out, which we talk about in the film, where
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  Speaker 7: they said she was the most underrated.
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  Speaker 6: You overrated word overrated came in, you know, like I said,
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  Speaker 6: you know, we say unapologetic, but this could have been overrated.
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  Speaker 4: It could have been underappreciated. It could have been underrated.
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  Speaker 6: Because a lot of titles could have been tied to
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  Speaker 6: her name. But you know the one that comes up.
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  Speaker 6: I've appreciated her talent. I've appreciated what she's brought to
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  Speaker 6: the table. I appreciate the skill set that I see
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  Speaker 6: with her on T and T during the March Madness.
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  Speaker 6: I mean, she's you know, these are just things I
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  Speaker 6: see as a person who goes She's brilliant, she has
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  Speaker 6: a sense of humor, and I can tell she does
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  Speaker 6: her hard work hard the hard work that needs to
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  Speaker 6: be put in place. Because she's a female person reporting
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  Speaker 6: on male sports, that's when you got to have your
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  Speaker 6: act together. But the commentary that she provides is I
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  Speaker 6: always tell people like I represent Steven A. Smith, and
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  Speaker 6: I always tell him when people I'm a sports junkie,
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  Speaker 6: I said, when somebody tells me something that I go wow,
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  Speaker 6: I never would have thought of that. That means that
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  Speaker 6: a person has a special gift of talent, and she's
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  Speaker 6: one of those people. Now along the way, you know,
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  Speaker 6: you know, her brother got drafted in the NBA as
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  Speaker 6: the first round pick, and so so athleticism drove that family.
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  Speaker 6: And she was the youngest in the family, so she
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  Speaker 6: basically was treated like one of the boys, which drove
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  Speaker 6: her competitively. But if you look back when I first
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  Speaker 6: see her, and there wasn't mentioned in this docuseries, I
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  Speaker 6: just think of Cheryl Miller, you know who I you know,
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  Speaker 6: she's tall like her, she's kin complexion like her, she's
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  Speaker 6: attractive like her. And I didn't hear Cheryl Miller name
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  Speaker 6: mentioned in the documentary. Was that intentional or that would
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  Speaker 6: have strayed in a different direction for the documentary, if
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  Speaker 6: we'd have brought Cheryl Miller toned into this documentary.
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  Speaker 5: You know, I don't.
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  Speaker 7: I feel like we were really trying to get there
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  Speaker 7: were so only so many minutes, and I definitely know
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  Speaker 7: that Cheryl Miller is somebody that Candice looks up to,
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  Speaker 7: but there is I think really just keeping it to
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  Speaker 7: time made things like that have to.
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  Speaker 5: Go at times.
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  Speaker 7: Like I remember, we had you know, more about Lisa
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  Speaker 7: and her relationship.
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  Speaker 5: You know, they were very close and she looked up to.
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  Speaker 7: Her very much and you know as a mother in
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  Speaker 7: the NBA as well WNBA. So there were just unfortunately,
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  Speaker 7: you know, some of those other stories. I wish we
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  Speaker 7: could go further and more in depth on some of
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  Speaker 7: the pioneers that she looks up to and that that
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  Speaker 7: she really respects the game of because she's a she's
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  Speaker 7: someone who studies and she she came up in you know,
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  Speaker 7: nineteen ninety six, she's ten years old or something, and
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  Speaker 7: you know that's when the WNBA was created, So that
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  Speaker 7: was like she finally saw that basketball could become a career.
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  Speaker 7: Like that's that moment for her. So she definitely, you know,
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  Speaker 7: was a fan of Cheryl Miller. I also think, you
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  Speaker 7: know when you say, you know, this is a masterclass
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  Speaker 7: and you mentioned her parents, right, that was part of
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  Speaker 7: probably for me, one of the best things about the
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  Speaker 7: interviews and making this film was talking to her parents
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  Speaker 7: and learning from her parents because these are these are
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  Speaker 7: these are these are amazing parents who who got two
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  Speaker 7: of their kids into professional sports. Another kid is a
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  Speaker 7: doctor and went to the best university he went to,
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  Speaker 7: you know, went to the top university in the country
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  Speaker 7: for medical school.
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  Speaker 5: These are really exceptional kids. How do you how do
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  Speaker 5: your kids turn out like this?
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  Speaker 7: You know, I wanted to know as a mom also
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  Speaker 7: like what are the things that you do to drive
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  Speaker 7: your child? And so it was also a master lesson
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  Speaker 7: in learning from both Larry and Sarah Parker about how
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  Speaker 7: you know, it's it's not about coddling your kids. It's
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  Speaker 7: not about you know, treating them like they're like just
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  Speaker 7: because they had a dunk that they're that they're you know,
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  Speaker 7: so important. No, it's really about lifeline lessons and showing
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  Speaker 7: them how things are hard and to keep working at
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  Speaker 7: it until you become the best.
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  Speaker 5: So that's that's where all that comes from.
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  Speaker 6: Well, you know, it's really important that I asked these
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  Speaker 6: questions because of the fact that first I'm curious and
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  Speaker 6: I'm a basketball junkie and I'm a w NBA fan
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  Speaker 6: or a fan of women's basketball, and then she had
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  Speaker 6: her The father of their child, well, I think he
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  Speaker 6: was the number fourth pick in the NBA draft, Williams.
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  Speaker 6: He went to college great basketball players. She was a
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  Speaker 6: great black so number one pick in the w NBA draft.
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  Speaker 6: Their daughter does she ever? Does she ever considered sports?
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  Speaker 6: What was the whole approach to her? What does she
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  Speaker 6: what is her love?
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  Speaker 5: She's an athlete. Leyla's very tall.
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  Speaker 7: She's about six foot now at this point and thirteen
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  Speaker 7: years old. And yeah, I mean she plays so she
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  Speaker 7: plays volleyball competitive fleet and she played soccer.
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  Speaker 5: And she.
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  Speaker 7: Has recent you know, she started to really come into basketball.
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  Speaker 7: I think she was avoiding it at first because her
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  Speaker 7: father is also from the NBA, Sheldon Williams, So you know,
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  Speaker 7: it was there's a lot of pressure there.
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  Speaker 5: But she actually really loves the sports.
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  Speaker 7: So you do get to see Layla and Candace and
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  Speaker 7: even an your Candace's wife on the court.
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  Speaker 6: Now you know Joey. Now you know Joey. They wasn't
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  Speaker 6: the same skill set. I saw the doc. Now you
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  Speaker 6: know she she I'm glad you said she's thirteen because
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  Speaker 6: she's tall. She looked like she's about sixteen seventeen, So
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  Speaker 6: she has a number of years to develop those skills.
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  Speaker 4: You know.
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  Speaker 6: That's why I asked, you know, from the standpoint, did
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  Speaker 6: she wanted to pursue but volleyball?
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  Speaker 4: I could see her doing that easily.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, but her father being an incredible athlete
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  Speaker 6: and performed at a high level in a college.
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  Speaker 4: That would be pressure because at number.
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  Speaker 6: Four picked in the draft, you know what I'm saying,
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  Speaker 6: and then her mom being the number one pick in
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  Speaker 6: the draft, because it just becomes a docuseries about family,
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  Speaker 6: and that's what I thought that stood out the most.
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  Speaker 6: Her family, her finding out how who she really was,
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  Speaker 6: her destiny as being a person who wanted to come
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  Speaker 6: out and say I'm gay. I wanted to pursue this lifestyle.
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  Speaker 6: The facts being put out there. One in five women
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  Speaker 6: in the WNBA are gay, and she felt that that
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  Speaker 6: was important.
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  Speaker 4: And she also mentioned the fact that.
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  Speaker 6: Oftentimes in social media she's under attack whether and that's
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  Speaker 6: that's not fair, but she still has to deal with that.
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  Speaker 6: She has the courage to live with that. Explain to
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  Speaker 6: us her role and plan that out. She mentions about it,
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  Speaker 6: talks or talks about it in the film, but talk
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  Speaker 6: about your perspective and building those moments to make sure
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  Speaker 6: we got the message correctly.
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  Speaker 5: About her coming out specifically.
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  Speaker 7: Yes, ma'am, yeah, I mean I think that for Candace,
• 17:56
  Speaker 7: you know, you use those words at the beginning, all
• 17:58
  Speaker 7: these expectations, you know, all these things, and there was
• 18:01
  Speaker 7: an expectation for this beautiful woman who was married to
• 18:05
  Speaker 7: man to be a straight woman. And I think that
• 18:09
  Speaker 7: weighed on her, that that expectation, and you know, I
• 18:15
  Speaker 7: think that's why it took her so long to to
• 18:19
  Speaker 7: to publicly say that her and Anya were together. So really,
• 18:25
  Speaker 7: for her, it wasn't about, you know, this big to
• 18:30
  Speaker 7: do coming out thing. She didn't want that. She really
• 18:34
  Speaker 7: just wanted to be honest about who she you know,
• 18:39
  Speaker 7: about who she is, So she didn't she really didn't
• 18:42
  Speaker 7: make a huge deal of it. She put out an
• 18:44
  Speaker 7: Instagram post. I happened to be there that day picking
• 18:48
  Speaker 7: her up from the airport. It was her anniversary, and
• 18:51
  Speaker 7: it was her anniversary, and she was like, you know,
• 18:54
  Speaker 7: I'm tired of this. My wife is pregnant, and she's
• 18:56
  Speaker 7: she's it's it's becoming obvious that she's and you know,
• 19:02
  Speaker 7: people who know Candice and who are close to her,
• 19:06
  Speaker 7: you know, we're at the wedding and and would see
• 19:10
  Speaker 7: you know, their family together. And but it was really
• 19:13
  Speaker 7: about this public moment because she as she's bringing a
• 19:18
  Speaker 7: life into the world, she's having a son with her wife, rightfully,
• 19:24
  Speaker 7: so she felt she wanted to celebrate it. I think
• 19:26
  Speaker 7: really that's what was behind her finally, you know, doing
• 19:30
  Speaker 7: that Instagram post was just that she wanted to be
• 19:33
  Speaker 7: able to celebrate this momentous, beautiful moment.
• 19:38
  Speaker 4: I'm grateful to.
• 19:39
  Speaker 5: Have been there.
• 19:40
  Speaker 6: Well, you know, like when you do projects like this,
• 19:43
  Speaker 6: you know, fortunate to work on docuseries and when people
• 19:46
  Speaker 6: allow you to tell their personal story. That's this is
• 19:50
  Speaker 6: a very intimate story that you are breaking down to us.
• 19:54
  Speaker 6: You know, from the beginning, middle of the end, when
• 19:57
  Speaker 6: we look at all the injuries this she has ended,
• 20:02
  Speaker 6: is she afraid when she gets in the fifties and
• 20:04
  Speaker 6: sixties of how she.
• 20:06
  Speaker 4: Would be able to deal with those injuries? Joey, yes.
• 20:09
  Speaker 7: I mean, you know you've spoken to how many you've
• 20:12
  Speaker 7: talked to retired athletes. You know she has too, and
• 20:17
  Speaker 7: that is one of her greatest fears is that she's
• 20:19
  Speaker 7: not going to be able to be on the court
• 20:20
  Speaker 7: with her son. You know, she wants to be able
• 20:23
  Speaker 7: to play some play and pick up with him, like
• 20:26
  Speaker 7: she wants to be able to walk, and that we
• 20:29
  Speaker 7: know is a difficult difficulty for a lot of retired players,
• 20:33
  Speaker 7: and that's for the men's side.
• 20:34
  Speaker 5: You see she talks to a lot of the men.
• 20:36
  Speaker 7: But think about what women are going through when they've
• 20:39
  Speaker 7: been working. They played a lot more than the men.
• 20:41
  Speaker 7: They played all through college, they played basically year.
• 20:46
  Speaker 5: Round for ten years of their career.
• 20:49
  Speaker 7: She's just started to It was just in the last
• 20:52
  Speaker 7: four years when she started doing Turner and doing broadcasting
• 20:56
  Speaker 7: that she's been able to step away from play saying
• 21:00
  Speaker 7: year year round. So she's very worried about that. But
• 21:04
  Speaker 7: the thing about Candace is she does a lot of
• 21:07
  Speaker 7: you know, a lot of work to.
• 21:10
  Speaker 5: Deal with that.
• 21:10
  Speaker 7: And so we see her with her trainers, We see
• 21:14
  Speaker 7: her in the cold baths, you know, we see her
• 21:17
  Speaker 7: doing the acupuncture.
• 21:20
  Speaker 5: She takes all of the precautions.
• 21:22
  Speaker 7: She's an amazing athlete that treats her body incredibly and
• 21:27
  Speaker 7: knows how to deal with her body, and she takes
• 21:31
  Speaker 7: care of herself. So that's how she's able to do this.
• 21:33
  Speaker 7: And so she's trying her best to do this in
• 21:36
  Speaker 7: a smart way. She's not going to push it to
• 21:38
  Speaker 7: the end. She's not gonna push it to the wheels
• 21:41
  Speaker 7: fall off. And she also won't play if her body
• 21:45
  Speaker 7: is not one hundred percent because she won't cheat the sport.
• 21:49
  Speaker 7: She cares too much about the sport of basketball to
• 21:52
  Speaker 7: ever play without being at her best.
• 21:55
  Speaker 5: I'm sorry, I'm having a sound issue here. I'm gonna just.
• 22:00
  Speaker 8: Is that you, Joey?
• 22:01
  Speaker 4: Is that you? I'm sorry?
• 22:03
  Speaker 5: Could you just give me one second?
• 22:06
  Speaker 4: Absolutely? Absolutely one second?
• 22:10
  Speaker 8: Did you know that?
• 22:11
  Speaker 4: Please?
• 22:20
  Speaker 3: Right now?
• 22:23
  Speaker 5: Sorry? My housekeeper was working, she.
• 22:27
  Speaker 4: Was doing her job job. You know that.
• 22:31
  Speaker 6: That allows me to transition to dramatic moments in the
• 22:38
  Speaker 6: Candice Parker Apologetic film. You know, the knee injury in
• 22:43
  Speaker 6: high school. That was a dramatic moment. The uh passing
• 22:47
  Speaker 6: of Pat Summit was played out in the documentary.
• 22:51
  Speaker 4: That was a dramatic moment.
• 22:52
  Speaker 6: Another dramatic moment that angered me what I felt and
• 22:57
  Speaker 6: I knew what was happening because I was in l
• 22:59
  Speaker 6: at the time.
• 23:00
  Speaker 4: The treatment of her by Derek Fisher.
• 23:06
  Speaker 6: Her takeaway from that, I think she's still mad at
• 23:09
  Speaker 6: him because it was uncalled for and it made her
• 23:12
  Speaker 6: look bad. Because that's the things, like I said, she's
• 23:15
  Speaker 6: been fighting for her whole life. Give us some insight.
• 23:18
  Speaker 6: A lot of it's played out into the film. Is
• 23:21
  Speaker 6: fantastic moment of being able to cover emotions and back
• 23:24
  Speaker 6: it up with facts, tell us about how you was,
• 23:27
  Speaker 6: how you pulled that together.
• 23:29
  Speaker 5: Yeah, you know there.
• 23:31
  Speaker 7: Was there definitely still you know, a lot of motion
• 23:35
  Speaker 7: tied to that. Those years, those later years at the
• 23:39
  Speaker 7: at the Sparks were hard for her, really hard for her.
• 23:42
  Speaker 7: And and and then you know, when I interviewed some
• 23:46
  Speaker 7: of the journalists that were covering that period, like Jamel
• 23:50
  Speaker 7: Hill and also Ramota Sharborne, they also could have attested
• 23:58
  Speaker 7: to that and then and to the treatment sort of
• 24:01
  Speaker 7: that they were seeing from within the organization to someone
• 24:06
  Speaker 7: who was their star. And it was really a double
• 24:10
  Speaker 7: standard if you think about it, because would you ever
• 24:13
  Speaker 7: imagine them treating Lebron like that or you know, like
• 24:18
  Speaker 7: the person who is the star of your team that
• 24:20
  Speaker 7: you know, you're headliner and you you're devaluing them.
• 24:25
  Speaker 5: I mean there were other things too.
• 24:27
  Speaker 6: I mean there was time well look look James Harden,
• 24:29
  Speaker 6: he can get up and say I want to get traded.
• 24:31
  Speaker 6: He got he said, I want out of Houston, didn't
• 24:33
  Speaker 6: show up. I went out at Brooklyn, didn't show up.
• 24:36
  Speaker 6: I want out of Philly, didn't show up. Now you're
• 24:38
  Speaker 6: over there.
• 24:38
  Speaker 4: Messing up the Clippers tape. So you're absolutely right, there's
• 24:41
  Speaker 4: a double standard.
• 24:42
  Speaker 6: This man has proven he's done no championships because every
• 24:47
  Speaker 6: time he's mad or don't like.
• 24:49
  Speaker 4: Something, he's out.
• 24:50
  Speaker 6: Here's the person who's won three championship And at the
• 24:53
  Speaker 6: time I had won one championship and delivered.
• 24:55
  Speaker 5: To the multiple time.
• 24:58
  Speaker 6: Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, And I was like, you know,
• 25:02
  Speaker 6: it was really interesting because of the fact that when
• 25:04
  Speaker 6: you are see people because you're helpless, because you at
• 25:07
  Speaker 6: the mercy of individuals, you have to nursey of perception.
• 25:10
  Speaker 6: You had the mercy steal. She still is attracted person
• 25:13
  Speaker 6: and people being stereo landing stereotypes on her about what
• 25:17
  Speaker 6: they think she are she is and she heard again
• 25:20
  Speaker 6: and all these things that she has to deal with
• 25:23
  Speaker 6: as a star talent she's been dealing with all her life.
• 25:25
  Speaker 6: But when I look at the documentary, the year that
• 25:27
  Speaker 6: stood out as probably her year that she just will
• 25:31
  Speaker 6: remember for the rest of her life is twenty sixteen.
• 25:33
  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, twenty sixteen was not a very good year
• 25:37
  Speaker 4: for Kansas. Parker talk to us about that.
• 25:39
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, it was a lot, it was, you know,
• 25:44
  Speaker 7: I think the biggest it started off really really bad
• 25:48
  Speaker 7: with the Olympics.
• 25:50
  Speaker 4: Right, she is a.
• 25:52
  Speaker 7: Two time gold medalist, and you know, she's asked to
• 25:57
  Speaker 7: go to a camp, asked to go away from her family,
• 26:00
  Speaker 7: work in this camp, prove herself.
• 26:03
  Speaker 5: She's being told that she's doing amazing.
• 26:05
  Speaker 7: She's killing it out there as one of the best
• 26:08
  Speaker 7: players in a field of great players. I mean, America
• 26:11
  Speaker 7: has the greatest women basketball players in the world.
• 26:14
  Speaker 5: That's it.
• 26:15
  Speaker 4: We do and.
• 26:18
  Speaker 7: They and but and Candases is one of the best,
• 26:22
  Speaker 7: right And so what you see there is this coach
• 26:26
  Speaker 7: who happens to be from the rival school college school
• 26:32
  Speaker 7: that she went. You know, went to Genoriyama from Connecticut
• 26:36
  Speaker 7: as the coach of the US Olympic team, but he
• 26:39
  Speaker 7: was also the coach of the of the Connecticut team
• 26:43
  Speaker 7: where Diana went, where Sue went. A lot of great athletes.
• 26:47
  Speaker 6: Three other and three other people who made their liberty.
• 26:50
  Speaker 6: It was five of them, totally correct. And Gina also
• 26:53
  Speaker 6: quote unquote was not a fan of Pat Summit. Let's
• 26:56
  Speaker 6: go and be real that Pat Summitt was his ribe
• 27:00
  Speaker 6: at the University of Tennessee.
• 27:02
  Speaker 4: So that moment right there, you know, the.
• 27:06
  Speaker 6: Other down moment was of course Pat Summit, Yeah, lost
• 27:10
  Speaker 6: her life in twenty sixteen.
• 27:13
  Speaker 4: You know, but she did.
• 27:15
  Speaker 6: The positive moment was she did win her second I
• 27:19
  Speaker 6: mean when she did win a WNBA championship in twenty sixteen.
• 27:22
  Speaker 7: And I think that was fueled by the fire, you
• 27:24
  Speaker 7: know that she had in her after losing Pat you know,
• 27:28
  Speaker 7: coming Like the thing about Candace is whenever there's you know,
• 27:33
  Speaker 7: things that are bad or think she's down, that actually
• 27:37
  Speaker 7: she uses it.
• 27:38
  Speaker 5: And I find this with a lot of great athletes.
• 27:40
  Speaker 7: She uses it and you know, very successful people in general,
• 27:44
  Speaker 7: is that she uses it to motivate herself and she
• 27:49
  Speaker 7: she channels that energy and that sadness, the grief. Her
• 27:54
  Speaker 7: marriage was also, you know, breaking up at that time.
• 27:57
  Speaker 5: She was separating in twenty six.
• 28:00
  Speaker 4: With Sheldon Williams.
• 28:01
  Speaker 7: Yeah, with Sheldon, and so I mean it was a
• 28:03
  Speaker 7: lot for her that year and she had something to
• 28:06
  Speaker 7: prove and she you know, she brought home the championship
• 28:11
  Speaker 7: finally to the Lakers, I mean to the Sparks, the
• 28:16
  Speaker 7: La Sparks.
• 28:16
  Speaker 5: And yeah, it was it was a very dramatic year.
• 28:20
  Speaker 7: So I hope I really wanted to make sure that
• 28:22
  Speaker 7: that felt impactful for the audience.
• 28:26
  Speaker 4: Very impactful.
• 28:26
  Speaker 6: Joey a tremendous job, you know, I'm just I'm just
• 28:30
  Speaker 6: enjoying the moment. I watched the film on the day
• 28:33
  Speaker 6: of the day of the interview, so this is all
• 28:35
  Speaker 6: fresh in my mind. But like I said, in twenty sixteen,
• 28:38
  Speaker 6: she won for the la' Sparks and she got traded
• 28:40
  Speaker 6: to her hometown Chicago, where she won her second championship,
• 28:44
  Speaker 6: and this past year in twenty twenty three, unfortunately she
• 28:47
  Speaker 6: was hurt at the time, but she did win her
• 28:49
  Speaker 6: third championship with the Aces of Las Vegas, which is
• 28:53
  Speaker 6: one of my favorite teams.
• 28:54
  Speaker 4: By the way, leave me I'm a waa paint.
• 28:56
  Speaker 5: Yes, I love it.
• 28:57
  Speaker 6: Miss Wilson is a star and Miss Plum, I just
• 29:00
  Speaker 6: love them all. And Ms Gray, who was a teammate
• 29:03
  Speaker 6: with her. You with the Sparks again, you kind of
• 29:06
  Speaker 6: like it. It was a memory lane. I don't know
• 29:08
  Speaker 6: who's gonna interview you from these moment on interviews have
• 29:12
  Speaker 6: I like to believe they can never be as detailed
• 29:14
  Speaker 6: as much fun as I am. Joey, thank you for
• 29:17
  Speaker 6: coming on my show, Money Making Conversation Masterclass.
• 29:20
  Speaker 4: I will definitely promote this.
• 29:22
  Speaker 6: Candice Parker Apologetic esp film directed by Joey Jacob.
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