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Dr. Steve Perry Full Interview · The Steve Harvey Morning Show

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  Speaker 1: heart him. It's time for my first guest of he's
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  Speaker 1: young people and he's been at the forefront a mot
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  Speaker 1: motivating young people. And I think that's really key because
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  Speaker 1: catching a seed early, you know, you see a plank row,
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  Speaker 1: that's when you really nurtured. You get the right amount
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  Speaker 1: of water, you get right around by the sunshine. That's
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  Speaker 1: what he does. My next guest is one of the
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  Speaker 1: top educators. He is a top motivational speaker and now
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  Speaker 1: a daytime TV host. New show call Breakthrough with Dr Perry,
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  Speaker 1: a new daytime syndication talk show from CBS Television Distribution,
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  Speaker 1: starring my man, Dr Steve Perry, respected educator and advocate
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  Speaker 1: best known for creating educational opportunities for children. Please welcome
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  Speaker 1: to Money Making Conversations, Dr Steve Perry. My main man,
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  Speaker 1: How man? How you MANI to talk to you? Win
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  Speaker 1: both sweat and burning up like living comfortably? Oh man.
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  Speaker 1: First of all, I saw the promo. I didn't even
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  Speaker 1: know about the show. Okay, and so I'm watching I'm
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  Speaker 1: watching television. I just see it's doctor, said, I just
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  Speaker 1: wish Steve I didn't do the Doctor. You know, when
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  Speaker 1: and when you see people and you buy yourself and
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  Speaker 1: your house, you want to go. I'm by myself. Who
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  Speaker 1: am going to confirm this with? Right? Right? Congratulations man,
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  Speaker 1: because I know how long we've talked about people are different.
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  Speaker 1: Networks have have have sat down what you said, you
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  Speaker 1: had the talent, said you have the ability, said they
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  Speaker 1: want to put you in the position to do what
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  Speaker 1: you're doing. Now, tell us about their journey, and then
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  Speaker 1: we're gonna go back to our history together to let
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  Speaker 1: everybody know this is not an individual who just got
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  Speaker 1: a shot. You've nurtured this through your your craft, through
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  Speaker 1: your education, through your hard work. But tell us how
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  Speaker 1: did this show, T talk show come about? Well, it's
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  Speaker 1: CBS reached out. UM asked me if if I want
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  Speaker 1: to do a TV show? And I didn't. I thought
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  Speaker 1: they said c v S. I thought it was the
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  Speaker 1: drug Store. I said no, I said no CB. Oh wow,
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  Speaker 1: yeah that sounds cool. So and it began as a
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  Speaker 1: really as a as an idea of a trio of
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  Speaker 1: a of a show in which there was a bunch
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  Speaker 1: of people on the show doing a format similar to
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  Speaker 1: what you've seen, but there were men and women, Me
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  Speaker 1: and two other means two women and UH went out
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  Speaker 1: there and they decided that they just want to do
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  Speaker 1: the show just me, and so Fox said they want
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  Speaker 1: to give it a shot. Fox to put us up
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  Speaker 1: there for ten days, and now we're in the waiting
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  Speaker 1: phays of the game to find out if Fox wants
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  Speaker 1: to move forward or if they want to keep doing
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  Speaker 1: what they've been doing. Talk about gossip all day, right,
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  Speaker 1: So I didn't sit down with the EP. Did you
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  Speaker 1: have that? Were you involved in the selection process of EP?
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  Speaker 1: The storyline? So I wasn't involved with the selection of
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  Speaker 1: the stories, but I was involved with the framing of
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  Speaker 1: the narrative. They gave me quite a bit of latitude
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  Speaker 1: in terms of discussing what I wanted to discuss and
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  Speaker 1: approaching that the problems from the perspectives that I have.
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  Speaker 1: So they were very very open to that, which was cool. Um,
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  Speaker 1: And what was funny was after the first day of shooting, Um,
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  Speaker 1: midway through it, I should say, they just cut the
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  Speaker 1: telepromped off. They said, he ain't reading anyway, we just
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  Speaker 1: wasted our man is not reading anything that we've written
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  Speaker 1: up in So with the person who's doing teleproming, go home. Now, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: it was cool. It was cool. Well, because that's great
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  Speaker 1: because you're doing it from your point of view. And
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  Speaker 1: so I always tell people that a lot of people
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  Speaker 1: in television who are really got a lot of great resumes.
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  Speaker 1: To produce talent, you have to let the talent win.
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  Speaker 1: That's how you used to get long term success. If
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  Speaker 1: you're not, I'm proud you did that because of the
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  Speaker 1: fact that you have to rely on your natural instincts
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  Speaker 1: that way, Steve, you lose, you know why you you
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  Speaker 1: You did it your way. You did it from your poem,
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  Speaker 1: and that's and that's what it is. You know, when
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  Speaker 1: lose a draw, it's like you know, you you you
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  Speaker 1: meet a girl and she decides she wants to go
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  Speaker 1: in a different direction, and you see it with this
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  Speaker 1: dude and he's a clown, and you think, yep, even
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  Speaker 1: if she didn't choose me, what she chose is so
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  Speaker 1: vastly different than me that I don't even aspire to
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  Speaker 1: be that. I'm comfortable with her going with him and
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  Speaker 1: not me. The same thing is true with this TV stuff.
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  Speaker 1: If they go with us, dope, if they don't dope.
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  Speaker 1: I have a job. It's a good job. I get
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  Speaker 1: to work with children every single day. I'm in our
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  Speaker 1: in our school in Harlem right now, and you know,
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  Speaker 1: discussing things that matter like where what building we're gonna
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  Speaker 1: be in over our school and the broth and taking
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  Speaker 1: a look at UH. Before I came in the office,
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  Speaker 1: I was next door because we have a sub in there.
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  Speaker 1: And apparently substill means the same thing it always means,
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  Speaker 1: which is lose your damn mind when you're in class,
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  Speaker 1: tighten up some folks next door. So if I have
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  Speaker 1: to pause the conversations because I really do have a
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  Speaker 1: job where I really do still work with kids, as
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  Speaker 1: you know, absolutely well absolutely just a little short history
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  Speaker 1: on that. Dr Steven Perry and I, um, you know
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  Speaker 1: it goes back to Steve Harvey in our relationship when
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  Speaker 1: I was manager Steve and running the UH, all the
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  Speaker 1: charitable arms of the Steve as well as the Morning Show.
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  Speaker 1: Whenever we had an education issue that I'm more I'm
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  Speaker 1: one person I put on the phone was Dr Steve Perry.
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  Speaker 1: You know now, I always appreciate that, brother, and it's
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  Speaker 1: and it's you know, you've always been cool to me,
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  Speaker 1: and you've always been the same to me, and I
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  Speaker 1: think what is most important in life. Recently had something
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  Speaker 1: very close to me and uncle mine passed away. What um,
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  Speaker 1: what I've learned, what his passing is confirmed, is that
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  Speaker 1: what we're really doing, Rashan, is we are populating our funeral,
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  Speaker 1: meaning the way you live is the way you're gonna
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  Speaker 1: go out and people will remember you as you were.
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  Speaker 1: You can't. You can only right so much of the
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  Speaker 1: narrative until at one point the truth makes this way out.
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  Speaker 1: And as far as you and I go, you've been
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  Speaker 1: cool with me and have always talked about you in
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  Speaker 1: particular specifically talked about me needing to be your daytime TV.
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  Speaker 1: The conversation you and I've had at least three times.
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  Speaker 1: Absolutely we're gonna continue. Are We're going to a break here.
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  Speaker 1: I'm talking to Dr Steve Perry. I call HI number
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  Speaker 1: one to educate. I don't care if I have problems
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  Speaker 1: in Chicago. I don't care if I have problems in
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  Speaker 1: New York and Los Angeles. I called him because guess
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  Speaker 1: what to me. He was the truth. We will be
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  Speaker 1: back with more money making conversation with Dr Steve Perry. Hi,
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  Speaker 1: this ra Sean McDonald. You're listening to money making conversations. Uh,
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  Speaker 1: very popular money making conversation. It always amazes me that An,
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  Speaker 1: the idea that I started just to promote myself a
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  Speaker 1: six week has evolved in almost a two year platform
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  Speaker 1: of motivation and uh information to everyday people on the phone.
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  Speaker 1: Is Uh. One of my my dear friends, my dear
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  Speaker 1: friends in the business of education is Dr Steve Perry.
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  Speaker 1: He's one of the most sought after educators in America,
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  Speaker 1: widely respected by grassroot community members and internationally renowned leaders.
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  Speaker 1: He's He's chrismatic and compelling force. Is truly, truly and inspiration.
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  Speaker 1: The reason I say that is that every year when
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  Speaker 1: he would speaking at the Disney Dreamers Academy is always
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  Speaker 1: in late February early March, hosted by Steve Harvey Essence Magazine. Uh.
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  Speaker 1: He would go on stage and it's almost like when
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  Speaker 1: you see suit people doing something that you can't do,
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  Speaker 1: or you can do it, but not as well as
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  Speaker 1: he does it. It's like watching lebro you know, it's
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  Speaker 1: it's basketball players on the court with Lebron. No, they
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  Speaker 1: can't do with Lebron does. And when I would see
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  Speaker 1: him articulate in any speech, any format, in a public form,
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  Speaker 1: he always always went as a bad man right there.
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  Speaker 1: So Dr Perry, I gotta give you your juice. I
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  Speaker 1: appreciate that. But I appreciate that. But you know, I
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  Speaker 1: I was listening to I remember being oh man, I
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  Speaker 1: remember being in my mid twenties and I heard Atlantis
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  Speaker 1: Morris set uh in with that album that she had
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  Speaker 1: or CD that she had called Jagged Little Pill. I
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  Speaker 1: remember thinking, as she saying, this woman is doing exactly
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  Speaker 1: what she was put on this earth to do. And
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  Speaker 1: my objective is to do exactly what I've been put
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  Speaker 1: on this earth to do. I feel very, very fortunate.
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  Speaker 1: I am so humbled by the opportunity to work with
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  Speaker 1: us like you and people in the community who are
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  Speaker 1: doing what's necessary to move our community forward. To be
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  Speaker 1: able to wake up in my dream is a dream,
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  Speaker 1: and I encourage your listeners. Don't be afraid of waking
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  Speaker 1: up in the nightmare of somebody else's dream. Be completely
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  Speaker 1: afraid of waking up doing something that somebody else should
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  Speaker 1: be doing not you, because that fear will drive you
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  Speaker 1: into your own dream, and in your dream things make sense. Um.
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  Speaker 1: I've learned that people who are unhappy in their job
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  Speaker 1: see it as a job. Those are happy in their
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  Speaker 1: career can't wait to wake up to be part of it.
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  Speaker 1: Just can't wait. Understand that you know, as you well know,
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  Speaker 1: you don't get from small clubs to arenas by invitation.
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  Speaker 1: You have to make a hal you have to blaze
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  Speaker 1: a trail. And there are a lot of people tell jokes.
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  Speaker 1: I mean a lot of people, a lot of people,
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  Speaker 1: and a lot of funny people. I got schools full
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  Speaker 1: of funny kids to damn funny. Sometimes they need to
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  Speaker 1: chill with the funny. Ain't nobody paying their little behind
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  Speaker 1: to be funny. They just need to be a little
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  Speaker 1: more serious. But that's how they built. But few people
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  Speaker 1: will be able to turn that into a career, and
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  Speaker 1: even fuel will be able to be successful at it.
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  Speaker 1: But the same is true for every career. Just because
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  Speaker 1: you have a job to be on top. To be
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  Speaker 1: on top, you gotta be prepared to do things that
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  Speaker 1: nobody else is prepared to do, eat things that nobody's
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  Speaker 1: prepared to eat. And I literally mean that, both figuratively
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  Speaker 1: and literally, meaning that there are things that you have
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  Speaker 1: to put up with on the road to the top
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  Speaker 1: that most folks say, Na, na, no, No, I ain't
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  Speaker 1: sleeping on the park bench. I'm not doing that. I
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  Speaker 1: don't care what you say. I'm not doing that. I'm
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  Speaker 1: not I'm not gonna sleep in the car. I'm not
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  Speaker 1: gonna do that. I don't care what you say. I'm
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  Speaker 1: not doing that. That's crazy, okay, because the person who
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  Speaker 1: sleeping on the park bench on the way to the
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  Speaker 1: gig is the one who's gonna get to get the gig.
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  Speaker 1: The one who needs to be in the bed, who
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  Speaker 1: needs to have heat on at night, ain't gonna get
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  Speaker 1: it when you're grinding. When you're grinding, the same it
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  Speaker 1: is true with schools. When we when I started the
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  Speaker 1: first one, we started the first one, I looked at
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  Speaker 1: what I was in a conversation last week with someone
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  Speaker 1: and they were talking about how much money does it
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  Speaker 1: take to start a school? And they were saying all
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  Speaker 1: these numbers, and I thought, damn, I adn't have none
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  Speaker 1: of that. All the numbers they were saying three million,
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  Speaker 1: five A and I was like, I didn't know you
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  Speaker 1: got money, did start. I just figure you just found
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  Speaker 1: a way to start. And I remember distinctly there was
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  Speaker 1: a mayor in the city that we started our first school.
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  Speaker 1: It's a little Latino dude, and he used to say,
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  Speaker 1: I used to be in a gang, you know, old
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  Speaker 1: clown and he would shake my hand real hard with Sean,
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  Speaker 1: and he would like punch me in the arm, like,
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  Speaker 1: don't I'm you know, I'm tough, like man, I was.
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  Speaker 1: I act like it hurt. Oh man, man, you bag man.
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  Speaker 1: You hit me too hard. Man. When I'm in my mind,
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  Speaker 1: I'm thinking out to throw this little fool out of window.
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  Speaker 1: But I'm thinking the whole time, thinking, all right, you're
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  Speaker 1: gonna get your lips in, but I'm gonna come back soon.
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  Speaker 1: And what you want, you want, your little ego stroke
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  Speaker 1: doesn't mean anything to me. What I need is on
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  Speaker 1: the other side of this, And that's why I'm talking
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  Speaker 1: about eating things that you don't want to eat. What
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  Speaker 1: I could have done when he was being his normal
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  Speaker 1: little self is I could have come back at him like,
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  Speaker 1: y oh man, you're winning the games, shut up right,
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  Speaker 1: and then I might have won the argument. But I
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  Speaker 1: wouldn't have a school in you and I wouldn't know
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  Speaker 1: one another absolutely, And that's the key to what I
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  Speaker 1: was just saying, is that a lot of people put
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  Speaker 1: like I said, I want, I want, I want kind
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  Speaker 1: of you start tot and they exceeded. I will and
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  Speaker 1: guess what you lose because I will have to be
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  Speaker 1: the I will do this. I will get up early,
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  Speaker 1: I will sacrifice for my family, I will sacrifice for
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  Speaker 1: the for the my social life. I will sacrifice and
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  Speaker 1: sometimes in the relationship if they but you need to
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  Speaker 1: explain to them what while the sacrifice is being made.
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  Speaker 1: I will sacrifice for not living a lifestyle that that
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  Speaker 1: I could live if I do that. And that's really
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  Speaker 1: the key when I you know, the most positive thing
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  Speaker 1: that I've seen is that you you managed to live
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  Speaker 1: a balanced life because I've met his family, amazing wife,
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  Speaker 1: amazing boys, and and that's what I'm hated now in
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  Speaker 1: my life. You know, when I stop managing Steve, that
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  Speaker 1: was one of the goals I wanted in my life.
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  Speaker 1: Steve was balanced because I was just on that wheel,
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  Speaker 1: just running and run and run and running, just just
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  Speaker 1: closing deals, close and deal, but never relax and never
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  Speaker 1: understanding the value that I could stop, but you've always
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  Speaker 1: maintained that tell us the key. How have you been
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  Speaker 1: able to maintain a balanced life in your path of success?
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  Speaker 1: So to be honest with you, I don't know that
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  Speaker 1: there's such a thing as balanced. There's alignment. And you'll
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  Speaker 1: understand what I mean. When you're rocking with in your
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  Speaker 1: case of a beautiful wife and children who need you
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  Speaker 1: to not be part of your dream, you will never
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  Speaker 1: achieve alignment. Your wife had to understand that my job
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  Speaker 1: is to be on the road. That's my job, but
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  Speaker 1: more importantly, it's my calling. So if you need me home,
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  Speaker 1: there's no way to balance that. I can't be home
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  Speaker 1: and be out at the same time. So what I
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  Speaker 1: what I seek to do is to be honest with
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  Speaker 1: myself and those around me. It's so funny you say this, boy.
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  Speaker 1: So I was just saying to my sons this morning,
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  Speaker 1: is you know they go to Uh it's really so trippy. Um,
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  Speaker 1: we're riding into school today and UM, I said to them,
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  Speaker 1: nobody has given more for these schools than you have.
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  Speaker 1: Nobody They've been nice that you wanted me home to
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  Speaker 1: tell me something, to share a story that you have
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  Speaker 1: from school, or to show me a picture of something
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  Speaker 1: that you drew, or or just to sit and watch
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  Speaker 1: television with me. And I was not home and I
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  Speaker 1: can't promise I'm gonna be home for a little while.
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  Speaker 1: But you too, have given so much that my hope
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  Speaker 1: is that you see it as your legacy, not that
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  Speaker 1: you come and take over the schools, which would be dope,
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  Speaker 1: right what father doesn't want that to happen, But more
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  Speaker 1: important that you build upon it and whatever you do
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  Speaker 1: in life, that people see that you've got a leg
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  Speaker 1: up because you were part of something that you paid
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  Speaker 1: for even before you knew you were packed. So for me,
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  Speaker 1: brother Sean, what I think is important is to be
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  Speaker 1: honest with those people in our lives about what it
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  Speaker 1: is that our calling is and then that help them
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  Speaker 1: help them to understand what they were doing. Also, I
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  Speaker 1: have to be real brother that I've been working with
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  Speaker 1: a long time. As you know, Brother Yusuf, he has
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  Speaker 1: said to me, I'm so funny we're having this conversation.
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  Speaker 1: So one of the reasons why I did so you know,
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  Speaker 1: you talked about the Disney Dreamers Academy. The reason I
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  Speaker 1: did is initially, Rashan, is because you have said bro,
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  Speaker 1: you are here running across the country. Your kids all
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  Speaker 1: they see is that you're gone. They don't know because
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  Speaker 1: it's before the TV stuff, you know, when you when
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  Speaker 1: you are doing small gigs, people at home just no,
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  Speaker 1: you're gone, and in their mind is glamorous right in
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  Speaker 1: their mind, in their mind, you know you had. In
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  Speaker 1: my case, I might you may be at a small
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  Speaker 1: club of bar. I'll be at a small college with
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  Speaker 1: fifteen students. You know what I mean, fifteen students in
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  Speaker 1: in Iowa. In their minds, it's it's Dad is going
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