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Winter Footwear for Trail Running & Winter Strava Segments · Run Mountain Peaks

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All right, welcome back to another episode of Run Mountain
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Peaks. We're back in the White
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Mountains. I haven't been up here in
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probably like a month. Been busy, been staying down
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South doing the local peaks. But we're back.
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I did the Osceola's today and it was full winter conditions.
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I mean, snow from the trailhead to the summits and it just feels
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good to be back anytime. Probably like once or twice a
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year I'll go like a few weeks, maybe a month, like November and
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April maybe. I don't get all the way up in
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the Whites for a month, but it always feels really good to be
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back, be back on the trails. Something about the air up, up
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in those peaks. I don't know.
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It just felt really good. I felt kind of back to normal,
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back in my element. And yeah, I really enjoyed the
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conditions today. And it was actually, it was
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decent winter conditions. It was better than like typical
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November shoulder season conditions.
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And but we're definitely getting into winter.
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So the topics I want to talk about today, I got a question
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about shoes, Rd. shoes, trail shoes, winter footwear.
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And I thought today, because it is like starting to get winter,
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we got snow in the high peaks and snow is coming cold weather.
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I wanted to talk about winter footwear, what I wear when I'm
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running out on these trails, as far as shoes, you know, spikes,
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snowshoes. I want to do kind of like a full
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breakdown of what I wear for footwear.
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I will touch on the road and trail shoes, what I wear during
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training, just so put that out there.
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And then I thought it would be a good time to talk about winter
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Strava segments, a hole Strava segment season, that's what some
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people call it. And then pair that with the
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winter FKTS and FKT culture talk.
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I have some thoughts about like the trail conditions during the
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winter, Strava segments in the winter, FKT in the winter.
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So we'll just talk about all that stuff because we really are
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getting into the winter running season, which by the way is one
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of my favorite seasons of running.
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Obviously the spring, the trail season, like when the trails are
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dry is awesome. That's probably like the
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favorite like spring into summer.
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But winter is probably like my second favorite time for trail
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running. When the when the trails up here
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get all snowed in and packed down, it can be really, really
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fun. So yeah, I figured do a few
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winter topics now that we're getting into that season, the
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JFK 50 Miller and the a Scutney backyard Ultra are happening
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today. I hadn't talked about the JFK 50
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Miller. Last week we did a Scutney
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backyard preview. So that's ongoing right now as
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we speak. So we won't have the results.
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We'll go go go through a next week's episode.
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But the JFK 50 Miller, honestly, it's going to be probably over
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pretty quick for some of the top guys.
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But yeah, JFK $50, one of like the oldest ultra marathons.
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I think this is the 63rd annual ultra marathon that JFK has run.
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So it's pretty much a road race. It's not really a trail race,
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but it's one of the big, you know, iconic US ultra marathons.
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And people go there, put down crazy times and and get pro
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crunch pro contracts from it. So that's kind of like just a
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fun race to follow. So that's going on today.
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Maybe we'll talk about next week.
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Next up we're going to talk about winter cross training this
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week. So in the last episode, I was
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sick this week at the beginning of the week, I was still
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feeling, you know, I wasn't really sick anymore, but your
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body's really weak. You're getting back into
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activity and everything. So I was kind of pulling out of
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it and it was really cold this week.
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So pretty much just in the trying to say in the mornings I
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did not want to go outside. And so I started, I did a couple
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cross training sessions at the gym and in the winter, honestly,
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I do a ton of cross training. And so I wanted to kind of dive
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into some of the things that I do and just talk about some of
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the cross training alternatives. You know, when it's when it's
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when you wake up and you check the temps, it's 20° out and
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you're like, I don't know if I want to go for an easy run right
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now. So we'll talk about cross
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training motivation minute. We're going to bring that back.
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I got another quote for you on that one.
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And all right, you shouldn't have given me spoilers.
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Yeah, no spoilers. And then the last topic I have
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here is Kung Fu Panda recap and Tiara.
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We're we're here. We're just going to, again, not
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elaborate further. You'll just have to wait till
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the end for those. So yeah, we got a few a few
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different topics here, some winter running topics, a couple
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races and then some fun stuff at the end.
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So that's what we got on the agenda.
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Yeah. So like I said, I did the
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Osceolas today. It was, honestly, it was, it was
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pretty good conditions. I hadn't been up here in a
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while. I was reading trail reports and
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trail reports give you a pretty good, you know, a lot of people
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do the trail reports. It's like New Hampshire or
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newenglandtrailconditions.com. They'll put out a lot of good
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trail reports. So you can always go through.
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And even if your peak that you're going to do isn't on
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there, you know, similar peaks nearby are going to be on there.
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And you can get a good idea of, hey, do I need to bring, you
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know, what do I need to bring really?
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But the conditions were good. I ended up bringing snowshoes
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and I brought micro spikes and I didn't wear either of them.
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I just used my studded trail runners for the whole time up to
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about 4000 feet. There's a little bit of snow,
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but it's all packed down and the rock, there's a ton of rocks
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still exposed. So snowshoes aren't really going
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to be good yet. Like you can't really use
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snowshoes when there's exposed rocks.
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And then above 4000 feet there was enough snow that snowshoes
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maybe like some powdery snow that snowshoes kind of would
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have made it a little bit easier.
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But it was nothing that I put them on for.
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You know, I usually if I don't have to wear them, if I'm not
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postling, I don't really like to put them on or carry them
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really, although I did carry them today.
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So All in all it was good conditions and I wanted to do a
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breakdown of the winter footwear that I used for different kind
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of conditions now that we're coming up into the season.
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So I guess starting at like layer one, there are a good
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amount of times in the winter that you can just wear trail
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shoes. That is like level 1.
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There are some people up here in the Whites that wear trail shoes
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just year round, you know, if the trails are kind of packed.
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And so if the trails, it's all going to be.
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So we'll talk about trail conditions of what, when to
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where, what when to where. What does that make sense?
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I think it does. But yeah, if you have a really
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good solid packed trail and it's not super soft and it's not icy,
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it's just like very compacted people with snowshoes came down,
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it melted a little bit and then it freezes overnight.
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Those trail conditions are like extremely good and you can just
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wear regular trail shoes not in not even wear studs.
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And so there, I wouldn't do that as much in the whites, but
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around me locally, there will be a lot of times that I, I just
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wear regular trail shoes. So that's like level 1.
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I wouldn't really recommend that for typical winter footwear, but
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that's like level 1 winter footwear.
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The next step up from regular trail shoes would be studded
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trail shoes. And this is what I wear 95% of
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the time in the winter. I mean, I usually wear, yeah, I
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would say 95% of the time I'm wearing some sort of studded
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trail shoe. So I don't, I have my truck, but
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they're basically you can either there's two options.
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You can buy a studded trail shoe.
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There's a few of them. I'll talk about which ones I
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have and it's pretty much they just have these really.
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I think they're carbon something.
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They're little like steep, maybe stainless steel or something.
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They're a little metal tips that are about like this big.
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They're they're when I first ordered them, I thought they
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were going to be like a couple inches, but no, they're, they're
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an eighth of an inch, maybe 1/4 of an inch.
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And there's probably like 10 to a dozen of them on the bottom of
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the shoes. So on all the big lugs, they'll
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be like these metal little studs in them.
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And they're not meant for if there's a few inches of loose
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snow. They're not meant for if it's
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icy. They're just meant for that
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solid compacted trail to give you just a little bit of bite.
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So it's not like plastic on snow and you're slipping because in
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the winter when the trails are snowy, there's a little bit of
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loose snow. You lose a lot of power just
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because the snow kind of dissipates because when you're
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running, you want as much, you want to take all the power and
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get it back to propel you forward.
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But when you're, oh, we got somebody here, don't mind that.
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But when you're running in loose snow, it's kind of like when
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you're running in the beach in sand.
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Everyone knows that feeling. It's super hard and you're just
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losing all of that power to like the sand and the snow.
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And so the idea is to lose no power and have a grip when you
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when your foot hits the trail, you use all that power to propel
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yourself forward and your foot isn't slipping.
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So those studs give you that little bit of slip resistance on
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a perfectly smooth trail. And they're they're way lighter
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than micro spikes. You don't have to carry micro
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spikes. And that is what my my default
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trail shoe is in the winter. Now I have two different kind of
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studded trail runners. One of them is like a lost
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Portiva Blizzard. They come with studs.
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It's a Gore Tex winter trail shoe and you can go with that
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option. That's a very good option.
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Most of the studded trail runners you're going to get are
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going to be Gore Tex. And like I said, Las Portiva
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makes some, I think speed goats. There's a Hoka came out with a
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version of the speed goats that are pretty much studded trail
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runners that are Gore Tex. There's marrow ones.
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All of these, I think they all have kind of typically built in
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Gators and they're good studded Gore Tex trail shoes.
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Hi there. How are you doing?
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Good. How are you?
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So those are great. I I recommend those.
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But another version of the studs, like you can buy a kit
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that just gives you those studs and you can screw them into any
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shoe that you want. So I have a couple of regular
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old trail shoes. I think they're speed goats that
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I put a billion miles on. Maybe not a billion, maybe a
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million. And I just basically screwed my
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own like DIY screws into the lugs of the speed goats and so
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out. So it's kind of just like a a
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crappy trail shoe beater. But those shoes are lighter than
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the Gore Tex and they're not Gore Tex.
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And so I have a regular trail shoe with studs in the Gore Tex.
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What are the difference between those two shoes?
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I think a lot of people in the winter you want to wear Gore
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Tex. They're waterproof.
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They, you know, obviously they're waterproof, windproof,
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weatherproof, and they're going to keep the snow and the cold
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and the water out. And I think that is very logical
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and I think they're very good shoes.
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But what Gore Tex shoes also do is they keep all the water in.
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So what I've noticed in my Gore Tex, if I go for a long day and
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I'm working decently hard, like on a run for a couple 23456,
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whatever hours, my feet will get sweaty.
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I mean, everything gets sweaty when you're running the winter,
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it's just cold and you have to manage it with layers.
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But your feet get sweaty and pretty much all that sweat that
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you work up in your shoes stays in your shoes.
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So I'll get done from a run with my gore tech shoes.
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I'll take them off and my shoes and socks will literally be
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dripping with water. And I don't really think that
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that's ideal either. I don't, you know, obviously
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don't want to be running just in wet socks and shoes and stuff,
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but I don't think that that's ideal either.
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So for me in the winter when it is maybe 20, like the wind
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chills like 20s and above. So it's really on the line of
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that freezing. You, you know, at the trailhead
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you're probably above freezing and then at the summit you're
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probably below freezing. I think a regular trail shoe
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with no gore Tex and no insulation.
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If you're running and you're going for a shorter day and the
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trails good, I think that a a non insulated UN gore Tex trail
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shoe works just as good. It's obviously not going to help
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you if you have to stop if you get hurt right then your feet
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are going to get really cold. But pretty much when your feet
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start sweating at those around freezing temps and you're not
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wearing Gore Tex, it'll dry out. And so you don't have those like
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super wet socks at the end of the day.
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And so again, it all depends on, I talked about risk in the
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mountains last week. It all depends on how far you
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going, What mountain are you going?
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Are you going for an hour run? Are you going for a 2 hour run,
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a 4 hour run? But I think there's a line when
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the temperatures around freezing and you're going for 2:00-ish
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hours. I think that line is like where
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I make the decision of do I want to go gore Tex or do I want to
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go non gore Tex with studs. Again, the gore Tex shoes are a
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little bit heavier. So like if I was doing a speed
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effort uphill or even uphill and downhill, I would rather go with
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the speed goats with the studs just because they're lighter.
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So that's what I can't kind of think about that second level of
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the studded trail runner shoes. Now Next up from the studs are
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pretty much your micro spikes. Everyone knows about micro
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spikes. There's, you know, they're just
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those things that you put around, you can put around boots
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and shoes and you hear them in that your bag.
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They're clanking around micro spikes is like the next step up
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from studded trash shoes. They're I don't know exactly how
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big they are, but they're probably like 1/2 an inch to an
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inch big. They'll give you some bite into
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ice, depending how sharp sharp they are, they'll give you some
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bite into the ice. They'll give you some bite into
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the snow. And if you're in your studded
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trail shoes and you're losing traction a little bit, you
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probably want the micro spikes. And there's there's a couple
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kinds of micro spikes. I think like the Cotullo micro
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spikes are usually like the golden standard, but I have a
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pair and I don't have them with me today too.
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I'll probably like make a video with all the the equipment out
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there. Just won't do that today.
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So you can see all of it, but I have a pair of, I think they're
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black Diamond, I don't know what they're called, but they are the
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tiniest, smallest, lightest pair of spikes that you can imagine.
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I think there's maybe 4 spikes total.
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They probably weigh 1/5 of what like the, the full micro spikes
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weigh. And it's basically a little bit
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more than the studs, but not that much more.
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And so one, if you're going to carry the micro spikes, so you
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don't need them at the start of the trailhead, you might need
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them up top. You don't know yet.
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I would rather carry something lighter.
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So I like those lighter black diamond tiny nano nano micro
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spikes and what I've noticed is those actually work really well.
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Like you don't need those full micro spikes a lot unless it is
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very steep or there is a lot of snow.
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And so if you're kind of in between, let's say like today I
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did, the Osceola is East Osceola is a extremely steep.
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It's like 25% grade for like a mile or something very, very
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steep that I would be like I'd probably if I have to put on
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spikes, I want my full micro spikes.
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But if you're going up something like a Garfield, which is like a
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10 to 15% grade the whole way, I wouldn't even carry those micro
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spikes. I would just carry the tiny
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black diamond ones. If I my studs aren't doing it,
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I'll throw those on. They're fast and they're just
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way lighter. And so this is kind of like my
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progression for microspikes. Next is crampons.
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So that is like if you're ice climbing, if there are sheets of
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ice that you need to go around, you probably need crampons.
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I don't own crampons and I'm probably not going to buy
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crampons. I'm not into the ice climbing
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ice fest. If a trail is super steep and
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super icy, I'm probably just not not going to go on that trail on
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that day. That's kind of how I don't know
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if I'm not as adventurous to some people, but I'm just
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probably going to avoid it. And if you ever get into a
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situation without crampons and it's very icy and steep and
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you're on the trail, you can usually just jump into the trees
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and it's not going to be fun. You get a bushwhack for a little
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bit and bushwhack around it. So you hear a lot about crampons
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unless there's, there are probably a, a couple places in
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the White Mountains on like regular hiking trails that you
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need crampons. But I think a lot of the times
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they're overhyped. And I don't think you really
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ever need crampons if you're if you're just going to pick a, a
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decent route on that day. And so crampons would be like
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the next step up. I and like I said, yeah, I don't
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use crampons, so and yeah, as far as like additional things to
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put on your feet, that is pretty much all of the traction devices
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before, alas, the snowshoes. The snowshoes would be the last
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kind of traction device. And I think trail runners, I
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don't know, some trail runners like the snowshoes.
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I like running, I like going faster and I don't like bringing
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or wearing the snowshoes if I don't have to.
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Now this is like a big topic. Like I feel like the hiking
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community is very much like you always need snowshoes.
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The trail runners are like no snowshoes.
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I'm like in the middle. I see.
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I, I think there are days where you definitely need snowshoes.
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And there I think there are days that snowshoes are very much
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overkill. I think it all has to do with
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post holing. But so anyway, but there are a
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couple types of snowshoes that I will say.
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So I have, I think they are Dion snowshoes.
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I think a couple in Vermont. I think it's just a husband and
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a wife that make them. They're lightweight running
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snowshoes and they're awesome. There's like as light of a
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snowshoe as you can get. And those are the ones that I
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typically go for. They're going to be less
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durable. You're going to go through them
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faster. They're not going to be as heavy
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and in a lot of deep snow, they're not going to work as
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well. They're going to be working
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harder. There's no televator for all the
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televator folks out there, but they're they're lighter.
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And so that is the option that I, I pretty much always go with.
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Now the next step up from like a light running snowshoe would be
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like a full scale, I don't know what you call it.
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Like the MSRS are like the big snowshoes around here.
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And MSR, very much metal, grippy, heavy, bulky, but
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extremely good traction, very durable, can go through 2 feet
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of snow, can break 2 feet of snow trail when there's 2 feet
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of snow on the trails, snowshoes.
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And so yeah, it depends on what what you're going to be doing.
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If you're going to be doing more hiking, more trail running, you
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got to see which one you want. All of these things that I
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talked about are very expensive, so it's nice to have a full kit
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of all this stuff. But sometimes you got to pick
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and choose. And I'm always going to choose
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lighter and just pick a better day and a better trail and a
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better trail condition to wear. So that is pretty much, yeah.
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That is like the winter footwear breakdown that I use.
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Like I said, I think if you're going to bring snowshoes, not
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bring snowshoes. I think it all depends on if
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you're going to post hole. For me, even if snowshoes make
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it easier, if there's like lots of that powdery dry, but you're
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not postholing, but there's like 3 or 4 inches of that powdery
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dry snow, I'm probably not going to bring my snowshoes just
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because it's it's going to be harder to move.
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Like you're going to lose a lot of momentum with your feet in
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the snow, but you don't have that extra weight of the
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snowshoes carrying them. And so I think like time wise
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when you're on a trail, I think it just evens out and I would
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just rather not deal with them. So that's my take on, on the
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snowshoes versus no snowshoes. And when it's when you're going
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to post hole, just bring snowshoes.
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I've been in situations where like, I should have really
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brought the snowshoes. If you post hole a couple times
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here and there, some people will scoff at you.
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It's not the end of the world. Like people postal once in a
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while, but if you get to a point where you're postaling every
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couple steps, you need snowshoes, go get snowshoes.
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So yeah, that's the winter footwear breakdown.
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And then the last thing I want to talk about was Gators.
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So I kind of mentioned it on the, on the Gore Tex trail
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shoes. There are lots of trail shoes
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that have little Gators built into them and it literally just
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looks like a sock. They just go over the ball of
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your ankle and it's kind of like a, yeah, a mesh fabric material
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that's stretchy flexible and it, it, it contours to your ankle.
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So it doesn't really let snowing essentially.
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Those are good. Honestly, I, I pretty much if
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I'm wearing the Gore Tex shoes with the Gators, I don't add
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extra Gators on top of those. Those work good enough.
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Does a little bit of snow get in?
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Yes. Does snow get on that part and
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then melt and then get in? Yes.
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But again, we're talking like your feet are getting sweaty,
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like things get sweaty in the winter and you just got to deal
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with it. And those Gators are usually
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good enough for me. Now, if those Gators aren't, you
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really want to keep all the snow out, you can get there basically
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ankle Gators, which are I think like an outdoor research kind of
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company is going to make those. And those are good.
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They're windproof, waterproof, and they're not going to let
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snow in. And I would usually, unless
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you're like breaking trail, I would just use the ankle ones.
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Next up from the ankle ones, the ones that most hikers are going
22:54
to wear are going to be those ones that go up to your knees.
22:57
And again, they're just like Gators, Outdoor Research, MSR,
23:00
whatever all these companies make them.
23:03
I think they are. They do a good job of keeping
23:06
the snow out. They do a good job of keeping
23:08
the water out. But they also you just get super
23:11
sweaty underneath them. Hi there.
23:13
How's it going? So yeah, the Gators.
23:20
So again, like, it's good to keep all that water and snow
23:23
out, but also you're just getting sweaty on the inside.
23:26
So it's like, does it really make a difference?
23:29
I don't know. Things are going to get wet and
23:31
sweaty out there. And so for me, I don't even use
23:34
either of those second two Gators unless there's like a
23:37
foot or two of new snow. I just wear the Gators that are
23:41
on the Gore Tex shoes or I don't even wear Gators at all.
23:43
And I just deal with it. Yeah, that's that's what I do.
23:48
And yeah, one note too, about stud.
23:52
The last thing I want to say about the snowshoes, those
23:55
studded trail runners, you can wear those on snowshoes, but
23:59
sometimes those studs can tear up the fabric on your snowshoe,
24:03
especially if you have like a lightweight running snowshoe.
24:06
So just be careful about that. There are some Gore Tex trail
24:10
shoes that don't have studs and I do have a pair of those.
24:14
And if I really know that I'm going to be in snowshoes all
24:17
day, I'll wear them without the studs, with the snowshoes
24:21
because the snowshoes have traction.
24:23
And. And then you aren't worried
24:27
about damaging your snowshoes. OK, that is enough winter
24:31
footwear talk. That's what I wear.
24:33
If you don't know. Yeah.
24:37
If you have any questions, let me know.
24:40
OK Next up just regular shoes for running on the trails and on
24:44
the road shoes. I am not a big gear person.
24:48
I don't I'm I don't stay up to date on the latest shoes.
24:51
I'm probably not the best person to ask, but this is just info to
24:54
get out there for the roads actually back up my 1 belief in
25:00
shoes. My one strong belief in shoes is
25:02
if you're training high volume, especially if you're doing
25:05
trails and roads or a little bit of a lots of different things,
25:08
mix up what shoes you're wearing.
25:10
Different shoes, different shapes, different foams,
25:13
different types, different heel drops mix up.
25:17
Everyone has a lot of shoes, wear them all.
25:19
I think if you just wear 1 brand or one company all the time you
25:23
can develop overuse injuries like little things with your
25:26
feet or whatever. It just makes you kind of run in
25:28
a certain way. I think mixing it up is great.
25:30
That's why a lot of high volume runners like to do trail, like
25:34
to mix in trails because trails you're not just stepping the
25:37
same way every time, you're taking lots of different steps
25:39
up, down, rocks, roots, and you have a less tendency for those
25:44
overuse injuries. Same thing with the shoes.
25:47
If you wear 1 shoe type, you're more prone to get like a hotspot
25:50
or get used to whatever. If you wear 3 or 4 different
25:55
shoes a week, which is probably what I do, you're going to just
25:59
be less likely to develop those little little hot spots.
26:04
So my one belief, mix up your shoes, whatever you're doing.
26:07
Now, what kind of shoes do I have for Rd.
26:10
I have Brooks Ghosts, I have Saucony Triumph, I think that's
26:15
a good cushy Sue shoe. And then I have Saucony
26:19
Endorphin Speeds. Those are like my 1 fast shoe.
26:25
I think they have a carbon plate in them, but it's it's like one
26:28
of the higher end faster shoes. And if I do regular Rd. stuff,
26:33
I'm just wearing the regular Brooks of the Triumphs.
26:36
If I'm doing speed work and I'm trying to go faster and maximize
26:39
whatever splits that I'm trying to hit times intervals, I'll
26:42
wear those carbon plated Saucony big shoes.
26:45
I call them. I got my big shoes on.
26:48
So that's what I'll wear on the roads.
26:50
And honestly, I usually wear the Brooks too, like to the gym,
26:53
like I just lift in those two. I don't know if that's really
26:55
great for them, but I, I do do that.
26:59
And then on trails I, I wear Hokas.
27:03
I wear Hokas. I think Hokas, I don't know,
27:07
some people like them, some people don't like them.
27:09
I wear the Speed goats. I wear the Zionals.
27:12
So the Zionals like a lighter shoe.
27:13
If I'm doing something faster or something local, I just wear
27:16
those. The speed goats I like in the
27:18
whites. They got a lot of cushions, so
27:20
if you're going down a downhill, they got a lot of cushion to
27:23
absorb it. They got some lugs, some good
27:25
grip if you're running. That's what I wear on the
27:31
trails. I I have some craft I I've tried
27:34
to a few different shoes and those are the ones that just
27:37
that just work for me. I don't, I don't think I really
27:42
am. I'm not a believer in a zero
27:44
drop minimalist barefoot shoe. I think there's lots of cool
27:48
research out there. I think human should be barefoot
27:54
or whatever. That's how we used to walk in
27:56
the woods that thousands of years ago.
27:58
But I think humans aren't meant to run 100 miles and humans
28:03
aren't meant to train high volume running.
28:07
I don't think that's like what we were designed to do.
28:09
I think we were designed to like walk for long distances, not do
28:12
a ton of running. And so I, I just think that
28:17
cushion is when you're doing high volume and doing these long
28:19
efforts, I think you need cushion.
28:21
That's just me. Maybe I just get hurt more than
28:22
people, but that's my belief. And so I'll take the cushion
28:26
over the like the 0 drops. I know a lot of people like the
28:29
ultras. There's some different shoes.
28:31
Topo makes a decent shoe, mountain runner there.
28:34
There's Solomon's got some good. There's a lot of different shoes
28:37
out there. And I think whatever is
28:40
comfortable and you feel good in that should be the shoe you go
28:43
to and mix it up. That's what I think about the
28:46
shoes. Yeah.
28:49
So that was that was the shoe talk, the gear talk.
28:52
I will eventually do more of like a gear, a winter gear.
28:57
I'll go through everything I bring into the mountains and
29:00
I'll kind of just, yeah, maybe I'll throw that in a couple
29:02
different podcasts, but I also will make some YouTube videos
29:05
that show also to what I do there.
29:08
But today was just the footwear. OK.
29:12
Next up, we're done with the shoes.
29:15
Next up we're going to talk about winter Strava segments,
29:19
winter Strava segments. So I don't know if there's,
29:24
there's not like controversy over this, but essentially
29:28
everyone knows what Strava segments are.
29:29
There are these public segments that can go and like race other
29:32
people. There's leaderboards on Strava.
29:34
Some of them are very competitive.
29:36
Some of them, some of them are getting to the point where
29:38
they're getting like a race esque.
29:40
There are some segments that are very race esque.
29:42
Obviously the, the run the whites put on the the segment
29:46
challenge this year with all those the throwdown segments,
29:49
which was kind of like definitely a race stuff.
29:51
But there are other segments that are just like a lot of
29:54
people have done them and people will go out and race them.
29:57
And as popular as Strava has gotten more popular, as the
30:01
segments have gotten more popular, obviously you're going
30:03
to have more people going for them.
30:05
They're going to get more competitive.
30:07
Now, the one thing about the segments in the Whites, and this
30:09
goes for any mountain terrain, but especially in the Whites
30:12
that is like steep and technical is there are it's steep, it's
30:20
technical, it's rocky. And that what's that's what
30:22
makes running in the Whites very, very challenging in the
30:25
winter when you get a lot of snow, you get a lot of 4000
30:28
feet. People, gritters come out, they
30:31
pack the trail down every single day with snowshoes or every
30:34
single weekend at least when the trail gets packed down, when the
30:38
the temperature gets above freezing for a little bit.
30:41
So that trail kind of melts and really packs down good.
30:44
And then overnight when it freezes, these trails, the rocky
30:48
technical steep trails just become a highway.
30:52
And you can bomb down these trails like you can go so fast
30:57
down these trails in the winter sometimes if you get the good
31:00
conditions. And so the Strava winter, a hole
31:05
segment season is basically when you have a route, perfect
31:10
conditions come along, somebody bombs it and runs it at like a 6
31:14
minute pace or, or low or like a crazy pace that nobody could
31:17
ever do in the winter or in the summer without risking break,
31:23
break broken bones. And you can just go and get a
31:27
bunch of crowns and get a bunch of segment times.
31:31
And I think here are my thoughts on it.
31:34
I think again, as everything's gotten more popular, more people
31:37
are getting out. There's going to be a lot of
31:39
segments that just start going down because people run in the
31:42
winter. I think maybe 1020 years ago,
31:45
not as many people ran in the winter.
31:47
Trail running is getting more popular.
31:49
Winter running is getting more popular.
31:51
These trails up here getting more popular, so they get packed
31:53
down. More and more people are running
31:56
and a lot of these trails that get packed down, they have
32:00
winter times on them. And once you get a winter time,
32:03
it's very, very hard to get a summer time back.
32:08
And is there something wrong with that?
32:11
My answer no, there's not anything wrong with that.
32:14
Don't hate the player, hate the game.
32:15
It's like this, this, you know, it's a thing out here and if one
32:20
person runs in the winter and you had that time, you got mad
32:23
they took in the winter, just go out in the winter and take it
32:25
back. That's what I think about.
32:26
There's nothing really wrong with it.
32:28
But if there is a time or a leaderboard with lots of summer
32:33
times and the crown is a summertime, I think you should
32:37
not be going out there in the winter and trying to bomb down
32:41
that trail to get that time. It's just way faster.
32:45
And so any crown in the whites, a downhill crown because uphill
32:52
I think is easier in the summer. Uphill, I don't think the paved
32:56
trail makes up for just the rocks and the grip and the
33:01
summer conditions like not having to wear winter gear.
33:04
So the uphill, uphill times are safe, but the downhill times, if
33:08
there's a crown that is a dry summertime and you go purposely
33:14
and take it in the winter, I think it's kind of lame.
33:20
That's me personally, but it depends on the segment.
33:24
There are a lot of people that go out for not an easy run, but
33:27
they'll just go out on a regular run and they can take a shot of
33:31
a time in the winter. And so I'm not going to go tell
33:33
them like, Hey, you have to babe, go super slow on every
33:36
trail. Like if you're just running and
33:38
you get it, cool. Like I'm totally good with that.
33:41
But if they're but it, but a lot of these times are getting
33:43
competitive and if you have to go all out Max heart rate to get
33:47
it and it's a summer time, you're doing it in the winter.
33:50
That's what I think is kind of lame.
33:54
Again, depending on how many people have done the segment.
33:56
So if it's less than 100 people have done a segment, it's
34:00
probably not like a super fast competitive time.
34:04
And so there it's like, all right, you may not have been
34:06
going super hard, like just go get crowned, whatever.
34:08
It doesn't really matter. But if they're really hard to,
34:11
if there's more than a couple hundred goes on it or someone's
34:14
had a couple good, like just hard runs and they have in the
34:17
summer, I just like the technical mountain running
34:22
aspect of it. And I think once you make that a
34:25
winter time, it's like you can't go back.
34:27
You cannot take it back. I guess you could make your
34:29
thing private, but so yeah, that's what I think about it.
34:34
I think if there are like summertimes or boards with lots
34:37
of summertimes to them, just just steer clear.
34:39
Like there's so many good. Like if you want like a
34:42
competitive time or like you want to race a downhill segment
34:45
or you want to bomb, like bombing down mountains are just
34:48
super fun, but Max heart rate bomb all out.
34:51
If you're going to do it, there's tons of winter downhill
34:54
times out there. Do it on the time on one of
34:56
those trails that already have it.
34:58
Now there are a handful of trails that are like immune to
35:01
this winter downhilling because like all the roads get closed in
35:06
the winter. So triple I Rd. the Zealand Rd.
35:09
like all of these different roads, Jefferson Notch Rd. all
35:13
of these roads get shut so the trails don't get packed down.
35:17
And so you can't do a fast time on a downhill where the trail
35:21
head is on a closed Rd. So Tecumseh from triple I, I
35:25
would, I actually don't know off the top of my head, but I'm I'm
35:27
sure that's not a winter time. Osceola's from triple I I'm sure
35:31
that's not a winter time. Jefferson from Jefferson Notch
35:35
Rd. I'm sure that's not a winter
35:37
time. So all of these different times
35:40
are like pristine summer conditions and they get to keep
35:46
it like that. So if you're if you're looking
35:47
for a time that you don't want to, you want to send a downhill,
35:49
like you want to have a good downhill RIP and you want a
35:52
crown that doesn't get taken by the winter, just go on one of
35:55
those segments. Another note too is, and this is
36:00
all like like crown seeking, like crown chasing.
36:05
I think there are definitely different if you're doing like a
36:08
time trial on a mountain, like Chris Daly has his blog, Chris
36:12
Daly's blog is awesome. If you like the White Mountains,
36:15
if you like knowing about trails, he probably has one of
36:17
the best blogs informations out there on anything Whites
36:21
Mountain, White Mountains 4000 footer related.
36:24
That dude loves the White Mountains and he's just a good
36:27
dude. And he has this thing where over
36:31
like decade he's basically wanted to do as fast as he can
36:35
up and down 1 summit at a time. And in his case, a lot of the
36:40
time the fastest way to do it is in the winter.
36:43
And so that's like a different a passion project.
36:45
Like he doesn't care about Strava crowns, like he's not
36:47
going out there just hunting for crowns.
36:49
And so I think that if you have like a passion project like
36:54
that, I think that's cool. If so, like I'm not like hating
36:58
on on winter downhill running. Like I go out there and I'm
37:01
going to definitely going to bomb some downhills in the
37:03
winter. But you know, if you're if
37:05
you're, yeah, like I said, if you're aiming at a summertime in
37:08
the winter, then that's where the tables get a little bit
37:10
turned. If you want to do it fair game,
37:12
like I think do it like there's nothing against it, but it's not
37:17
as good. And if I look at a board and I
37:19
see number 1 is a winter and I see number 2 is a summer, I'm
37:22
thinking I'm more impressed by that summertime on a downhill
37:25
board. Now this raises the question,
37:27
should there be winter Strava segment boards or and and non
37:32
winter Strava segment boards? I don't know like if Strava
37:37
segments get super popular, they keep getting more popular than
37:40
at some point maybe it is warranted.
37:43
Like I would be interested in seeing that information.
37:46
I think it'd be cool to see who has the best top ten, who's like
37:49
the best technical dry mountain runners on certain section
37:53
segments. Because the other thing in the
37:56
winter is if you can just come up in the on the weekends, it's
38:01
hard. There's a lot of people out
38:02
there. So it's hard to bomb nut rails
38:04
sometimes. It just snows every Saturday or
38:07
rains every Saturday. So don't get good conditions.
38:09
If you come out on a Monday, Tuesday, like you don't have to
38:11
work. And you can come up on Monday,
38:13
Tuesdays, after the trails have gotten packed down, melted out,
38:16
froze up. Those are the best days to come
38:18
out here. So yeah, Do we want a summer
38:22
winter board? Maybe one day, but that leads us
38:26
into the winter FKT talk that I want to talk about.
38:31
And so this is like a similar, this is kind of a similar topic.
38:35
And I think the Prezi traverse FKT, there was 1.
38:39
There was, if you go on the FKT website, there was a big hooting
38:42
ha about, you know, back and forth about should the Prezi
38:45
traverse be run in winter conditions versus summer.
38:48
And ultimately I, I don't know how the time shook out, but
38:52
ultimately it was determined that if you run the Prezi in the
38:55
winter, it should be a different category.
38:57
It shouldn't be the overall Prezi FKT because obviously
39:03
running the Prezis in the winter is way faster.
39:05
The northern Prezis, if they just get packed down into a
39:08
highway. Like you can not, never touch
39:11
those times in a million years on those crazy technical rocks
39:16
in the summer. And so winter has its own
39:21
challenges. And it's not saying that it's
39:22
just like a cake walk in the winter, but it's two different
39:26
kinds of competition. And I think as Trail Run is
39:32
getting more popular, more developed, like it used to just
39:36
be races. Now FKT is a lot of FKTS are
39:39
like almost like race efforts. And so eventually I think Strava
39:49
segments are going to kind of be like the old, the old FKTS.
39:51
And eventually you're going to be racing Strava segments are
39:55
going to be like the new FKT. And it's just something to think
39:59
about. So as the FKTS got more popular,
40:02
there's a winter section for a lot of these different FKTS.
40:06
And I think like the premier ones and the whites, like I know
40:09
there's a hot traverse winter. There's a lot, the 48 footers
40:13
winter, the Prezi winter. I'm sure there's a Pemi winter,
40:19
there's a winter category for the premier FKTS up here because
40:23
it's totally different conditions.
40:25
And if you want to erase that and be competitive on that, it's
40:29
just two different categories go against your own category.
40:32
So that all makes sense to me. I guess that all kind of makes
40:35
sense, But again, there are some FKTS like I think there are some
40:42
FKTS, right, just regular FKTS that have been done in the
40:46
winter. So for me, if they don't make a
40:50
winter category in the, in the, it's already ran in the winter,
40:53
then you can go out and you can run that same FKT if you want to
40:57
do it in the winter. But if there is an FKT that
41:01
there's no winter designation for it, it's run in the summer
41:04
and you go out and run it in the winter.
41:07
I don't know. I think there should be a
41:08
different designation for that because it's just a different
41:12
competition. This is going to be a special.
41:14
This is going to be a special treat.
41:15
This is not, this is not my joke.
41:17
But this because you've lasted this long, I always think like
41:21
not a lot of yeah, I always think that the people that
41:25
lasted this long. Thank you.
41:26
I appreciate you listening. I really hope you enjoy the
41:28
podcast. I'm trying to like, keep
41:30
bringing you guys different info and but yeah, if you've made it
41:34
this long, you're going to get this golden nugget.
41:37
Here's a little joke for you. There was a cop on on the
41:41
highway, just stopped on the on the Interstate.
41:44
And he sees a car guy driving a car down the highway and in the
41:47
back seat, there's a bunch of Penguins.
41:50
And so he goes and pulls the car over and he's like, what are you
41:53
doing with these Penguins? Like you got to bring these
41:55
Penguins to the zoo. And the guy's like, OK, sorry,
41:58
officer, I will do that. And he takes off the next day,
42:02
comes around and the cops sitting in the same spot, and he
42:06
seems the cargo go by again. And the guy's driving the car.
42:10
And in the back seat are the guy still has the Penguins in the
42:14
back seat. And all of the Penguins are
42:16
wearing sunglasses. So this guy throws on his lights
42:19
and he's like, and he stops and he's like, hey, I thought I told
42:22
you that you had to bring these Penguins to the zoo.
42:25
And the guy goes, yeah, I took him to the zoo today.
42:28
We're going to the beach. OK, so if you made it through
42:36
the FKD talk, there's the joke, there's for your for your
42:40
courage. OK, Next up, the JFK 50 Miller
42:45
in a Scotty backyard. I talked about these already.
42:48
They're going on right now. We'll have the results next
42:50
week. Boom.
42:51
Next topic, winter cross training.
42:55
Yeah, in the winter it gets pretty hard for me to run every
43:00
single morning when it's in the single digits, in the teens, in
43:05
the 20s. I think on an easy run, like in
43:08
the fall, if I go on an easy run, I don't even really sweat
43:11
that much. It's very, I do my easy runs
43:14
very easy, keep them very light. I don't get super warm.
43:18
So in the winter it is you have to really bundle up to stay warm
43:24
on your easy runs. But then your hard runs, it's
43:26
like you have to really start cold and then eventually you'll
43:29
you'll or you're going to get too hot if you do have lots of
43:32
layers. And it's just kind of an added
43:34
stress. And I think that's why a lot of
43:37
people don't move out of New England and don't trade in New
43:39
England because the winters are very tough.
43:41
And for me, I like cross training a lot.
43:44
I think probably the best cross training in the winter would be
43:47
cross country skiing or ski touring.
43:51
Unfortunately, I don't want to deal with all the equipment, get
43:54
all the equipment. I like, you know, I like to go
43:56
hike, run on the weekends in the week.
44:00
There's not really snow around me where I could do that.
44:03
It's very expensive. These are the reasons why I
44:05
don't get into the skiing as much.
44:07
I think that is like the ideal cross training, ideal for fun,
44:11
ideal for mixing it up, doing some different muscle groups.
44:13
And if you're into skiing, cross country skiing, ski touring,
44:17
good for you. That is awesome cross training.
44:19
I admire you. And one day, I mean, if I lived
44:23
up here, I would definitely get into that stuff.
44:24
It's just around me. It's it doesn't make practical
44:27
sense where we don't have snow all, you know, for the whole
44:30
winter, a lot of winters. And so I think that's like the
44:33
ideal cross training the winter. But for me, I really just go to
44:37
the gym. I do stairs, the Stairmaster, I
44:42
do the incline treadmill, I do the bike, I do the elliptical.
44:45
And for me, what really gets me through the winter, I think one
44:49
actually at the gym I go to, they have a bike with a little
44:52
kind of a Peloton E screen. It's not a Peloton, but it has a
44:54
screen. I'll actually, I'll flip it.
44:56
You can go and put on like YouTube videos or it has kind of
44:59
like a video of like different little countries, you know,
45:03
whatever that thing is called. So it's like you're, you're
45:08
bicycling through Paris, but so that's kind of like
45:14
entertaining, but you kind of get bored of that cuz just a
45:16
bike on the bike trainer with no music or no anything.
45:19
It's just brutal. But I like going on YouTube and
45:23
I like throwing on for some reason cross country skiing,
45:26
like Olympic cross country skiing events, biathlon, all of
45:29
these things electric to watch. And for some reason the winter
45:33
just gets me in the mood to cross train.
45:35
So if you get thrown a good video, that's a good way to
45:38
cross train. I think the indoor bike is for
45:40
me the most boring cross training, but you got to do it.
45:45
But I do a lot of Stairmaster and incline treadmill and my key
45:49
to kind of keep it fresh. Obviously get some headphones
45:53
and listen to music, podcasts, videos, whatever that all that
45:55
stuff helps. But for me, if you're trying to
45:57
do like a couple hours at the gym of cross training, mixing it
46:01
up 1 is really good to kind of emulate the mountain training.
46:05
So I'll go like Stairmaster for 1/2 hour, incline treadmill for
46:09
1/2 hour, back to the stairs. Maybe I go do the sled at the
46:12
gym, like pushing and pulling the sled back and forth, really
46:15
mixing it up and then go to elliptical for 1/2 hour when I
46:19
have like half hour bursts of things.
46:21
Then you can break it up like, oh, I'll just do 15 minutes and
46:24
then I'll do another 15. And then you get through that
46:26
and it's like, oh, it's going pretty quick.
46:27
And then I've been here for a couple hours and that's like a
46:29
good like indoor mountain day I call them.
46:31
And so we're getting to the point where I think cross
46:36
training, if you just grind to the winter and you run outdoor
46:39
in the winter, you're probably just missing a little bit of
46:45
you're probably taking in more stress than you're actually
46:47
gaining. And I think some quality indoor
46:51
cross training can actually benefit you more.
46:55
And so in the winter, lean into the cross training because in
47:00
the summer, which you usually just slam in miles in the
47:02
winter, get back to weightlifting, get back to cross
47:05
training, get some different strength.
47:07
When you're on the bike and you do a little bike workout, you
47:09
get exposed like, oh, my legs aren't as strong as I thought it
47:11
was. If I do a Stairmaster workout,
47:12
whoa, I have a little bit more to work on here.
47:15
And so it's a good way to mix it up and kind of push yourself in
47:19
the gym. So if you haven't really re
47:23
introduce yourself to the gym, weightlifting and indoor cross
47:26
training, do it, train hard and you're probably going to give
47:29
get some gains that you've been missing off by just running
47:33
every day, especially in the winter.
47:36
For me, my philosophy is you want to run every day if you're
47:41
in the build up to an ultra, But if you're not in the build up to
47:44
an immediate ultra and you're just developing speed, strength,
47:47
it's good to do all the different things.
47:50
I think if you just run six or seven days a week and that's all
47:52
the training you do, you're probably missing out on some
47:55
strength gains and just some different skills that are going
47:59
to benefit you in the mountains. On roads you probably don't need
48:02
much other skills than just running on the roads, but in the
48:06
mountains I think upper body, lower body, strength, agility,
48:09
athletic ability, all these things help you outside of just
48:12
running economy and fitness. You can get fitness cross
48:15
training. The only thing you don't get as
48:17
much as running economy, but in the mountains you don't need it
48:19
as much. You need hiking economy, you
48:21
need downhill economy and all that stuff you can actually get
48:25
in the gym. So get to the gym, do some cross
48:29
training. It's going to benefit you.
48:32
OK, last second to last thing, kind of last thing motivation
48:38
minute. The quote is the secret
48:42
ingredient is dot dot dot nothing.
48:48
To make something special, you have to believe it is special.
48:51
This is from Kung Fu Panda. The little the little the panda
48:55
bear asks his dad what's the secret ingredient to the soup.
48:59
And the dad goes the secret ingredient is nothing.
49:03
To make something special you have to believe it's special.
49:07
And and the panda goes at first he's mad and then he goes, the
49:11
secret ingredient is nothing. And then when the Kung Fu Panda,
49:15
he goes and gets the dragon scroll, he opens the dragon
49:18
scroll because he was chosen the dragon warrior.
49:22
There's nothing on the scroll. The big secret everyone's been
49:25
waiting for, there's there is nothing.
49:30
And so I like that quote clearly I just watched Kung Fu Panda.
49:36
I saw the quote and I was like, I want, I think I want to watch
49:39
Kung Fu Panda. So I watch Kung Fu Panda.
49:41
But I really think that this is a good quote.
49:44
So the secret ingredient is nothing to make something
49:46
special, you have to believe it's special.
49:50
I think what you, what I hear over and over and over about
49:55
anything that's done anything great or extraordinary or
49:58
seemingly impossible, they there's no, there's no secret
50:04
ingredient, there's nothing special that separates them from
50:07
you. That like a champion, I think
50:13
there's lots of difficulties that you can bring in, but like
50:15
a champion is not that much different than the top 20
50:19
competitors. They just work every single day,
50:25
do the right things every single day for years.
50:28
That's what gets them there. And so, yes, there's lots of
50:32
talent, there's lots of genetics in this thing, but I think
50:38
there's a lot less than you think.
50:39
And so you need to make sure that you are doing all of those
50:45
little things. If you have big goals, probably
50:48
you're not dreaming big enough, but if you want to reach them,
50:50
there's nothing crazy that you need.
50:52
There's nothing that you don't have.
50:54
All you need to do is grind and be disciplined every single day.
51:00
Do what whatever that goal is, whoever can do that goal in your
51:03
mind, do what they would do every single day for a long time
51:06
and you will get there in the second-half of that quotes, the
51:10
quote is you have to believe it's special.
51:13
You hear the top athletes of all different sports, all different
51:17
walks of life. A lot of them have this
51:21
unbelievable, UN deniable belief in themselves.
51:27
And I think belief is something almost as necessary as talent,
51:34
as necessary as hard work. I think you have to 100% believe
51:40
every single day in what your goal is and what you're capable
51:44
of to really get to that next level.
51:48
And so obviously to become the Dragon Warrior, there's no
51:52
secret ingredients and you just have to truly believe that
51:57
you're a dragon Warrior. And then you can beat that, that
51:59
mean little tiger guy who was in jail all those years.
52:04
But I think it's just, it's a theme that I've heard about.
52:08
Like everyone listens to motivational things.
52:10
You see online, you see these different things.
52:13
And I really think it is a theme from all these people who have a
52:18
goal set out to do it and accomplished it.
52:21
They just reiterate, there's nothing special.
52:25
You just have to work way harder than you're working right now
52:28
and believe in whatever you're working for, do it for a long
52:32
time and you will get there. And so that's just like the,
52:35
the, the if you have a dream, you're probably not dreaming big
52:39
enough and you're definitely not working hard enough.
52:41
That's what I think about things.
52:42
Nobody, you look at somebody else who has something that you
52:45
want or something they did, something that you want to try
52:47
to do. There's nothing different
52:49
between you and them. They have just worked like they
52:54
wanted it and they believed hard enough.
52:57
So work harder, believe more and you're going to accomplish your
52:59
goals. That being said, yeah, I watched
53:02
the Kung Fu Panda. I think I watched it when I was
53:04
younger. I definitely remember kind of
53:06
bits of it or watching it. That movie is pretty electric.
53:09
It's a good short movie, hour and a half.
53:12
You really kind of, it wasn't super drawn out.
53:15
There's some funny things. It's obviously a kids movie.
53:17
It's a cartoon, but that old turtle, he's got some some good
53:22
quotes in there every time. That old turtle with the canes
53:26
walking around talking to people.
53:28
Listen to what that guy is saying.
53:29
That was his quote, actually. No, this actually wasn't his
53:32
quote, but he's got some good quotes in there.
53:35
It's a good movie. Yeah.
53:37
If you haven't seen it, watch it.
53:40
As soon as you know, they say, oh, my God, Ty Lee or whatever
53:44
his name was going to escape prison.
53:46
He's going to come and destroy the town or he's going to, you
53:49
know, come into the valley and take over the the shifu.
53:53
The master sends out a little bird to the prison.
53:56
He tells the prison guard, hey, you got to double your security.
54:00
The old turtle had a vision that this guy's going to break out
54:02
and terrorize the the village. And as soon as the scene goes in
54:07
there, I shouldn't ruin it. Actually, Yeah, if if you're
54:11
this is the end of the episode, if you want to watch Kung Fu Pan
54:14
after this, stop it right now because I'm going to spoil the
54:16
whole thing. But you walk in there and the
54:18
little bird comes in there and there's all these big tough
54:20
rhiners are like, what do you do?
54:21
What do you mean we need to double your God?
54:23
You think this isn't tough enough?
54:25
And the rhinos, like I'm just the messenger.
54:26
And the little birds like I'm just the messenger.
54:28
He's like, let's, we're going to go look at Ty Lee and they go
54:32
down on this big cave with all the security, thousands of
54:34
little rhinos and hippos securing this one prisoner.
54:37
This guy's like super bad or whatever, this tiger and the,
54:41
the, the bird kind of jumps up and 1 feather floats in the air.
54:45
And immediately I'm like that, that feather is going to be the
54:48
reason why the tiger breaks out. And then they go down and of
54:51
course the feather falls to the tiger.
54:53
He takes it with his tail. He unlocks the thing with his
54:55
tail. The tiger breaks out.
54:57
And I think it's it's it's very ironic because if the Shifu
55:01
didn't send the little bird to the prison, Ty Lee never would
55:05
have got out and that prophecy wouldn't have been fulfilled.
55:10
So it's kind of a it's kind of like, I don't know, I was kind
55:13
of thinking about that. That was, I thought that was
55:15
pretty deep for Kung Fu Panda. And then essentially, yeah, the
55:19
big fat panda got picked as the Dragon Warrior over the the, the
55:24
five, you know, Kung Fu master, black belt warriors.
55:29
And everyone was really mad at the panda because how could the
55:31
panda? He stinks at Kung Fu.
55:34
And then the Shifu master was super mad.
55:38
And eventually, yeah, eventually the panda finds out there's no
55:43
secret ingredient. He he has these different powers
55:45
because he loves food so much. All these other warriors, they
55:48
try to go out and stop Ty Lee before he comes back and
55:51
destroys the village. And of course, the only person
55:53
that can that can save everybody, the panda.
55:56
And the panda is hitting the tiger with, he doesn't know any
56:00
Kung Fu, but he's hitting them with his big belly.
56:03
He's going up. He's doing all these different
56:05
things. He's getting lucky.
56:06
He's falling down. He's he's sitting on the tiger.
56:09
And he's so fat that the tiger gets hurt.
56:11
He stepped on the Tiger's toes. And then he hit him with the the
56:14
squad douche because he understood the the dragon scroll
56:21
and he understood the power of the Skedouche.
56:24
And he ultimately defeated Ty Lee.
56:26
And yeah. So that was my Kung Fu Panda
56:30
recap electric movie. You should watch it.
56:33
Good quotes in there. And then the last thing I
56:35
mentioned on Tiara, I was kind of, I was in my tea era for five
56:40
days. I was sick.
56:42
I was doing these herbal teas and I it was very, you know, it
56:45
was getting very cold the winter and the little warm tea was I've
56:49
never been a tea guy. I like coffee in the especially
56:52
in the winter. Once in awhile, like on the
56:53
weekend, I'll just have a cup of coffee.
56:55
I don't drink it every day, but I had tea a few.
56:58
I was having tea twice a day this week and I was like, oh,
57:02
yeah, I'm. I'm embracing this tea life.
57:04
It's warm, it's cozy. I'm going to get in bed and
57:07
watch a little something in the blankets with this tea.
57:10
I was enjoying the tea era. I haven't had a tea in three
57:12
days, so I think I'm over it. But if you've been sleeping on
57:16
tea, try it this winter and try it while watching Kung Fu Panda.
57:20
All right, that is. That is enough for today.
57:24
Yeah, I got to get going. Anyway.
57:25
We're over an hour. Thank you for listening.
57:28
Again, I appreciate the the, the support.
57:31
Hopefully this has been helpful. We're going to keep doing
57:35
different topics. Let me know if you like the the
57:37
training topics more, if you like the gear topics more, the
57:41
race coverage more. I'm not really always 100%
57:44
caught up on the news like I know the races that I like, but
57:48
if there's something that I'm missing, you're like, oh, this
57:50
guy totally missed about talking about this.
57:52
I probably just haven't seen it. And so let I'll look into it and
57:56
I'll I'll give you my thoughts on it.
57:59
And another kind of exciting thing is I'm working, I'm
58:02
working on getting my ultra on it, ultra running coaching
58:06
certificates or certification. There's a couple different ones
58:10
that I think are valuable. So I'm doing some getting those
58:14
and ultimately hope to do some some coaching in the ultra
58:17
running mountain running realm. And I've learned a few things
58:23
that I think are interesting and a few things that are kind of
58:26
that I've I've learned through my own training.
58:28
And I'm like, I knew this worked and I just didn't know the
58:30
scientific reasons. But here, here are the
58:32
scientific reasons. And so I'm going to do a couple
58:35
podcasts about some of the things that are very important
58:39
that I think about training that I think people should be
58:41
incorporating. So we'll talk about some of
58:43
those. Yeah, we'll do some more
58:47
training theory talk. We'll do some more winter stuff.
58:50
And we're just going to keep these episodes rolling.
58:52
So that's all I have for today. I appreciate everybody watching.
58:58
I'm going to keep doing these if you guys keep watching.
59:00
So if you made it this far, thank you.
59:02
You're the reason why I'm still going.
59:04
I really appreciate it. We'll see you next time.
59:07
Peace.