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Areva Martin, Dr. Lynn Richardson, Anthony Evans, Codie & Tommy Oliver · The Steve Harvey Morning Show

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to Money Making Conversations. It's the show that she
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  Speaker 1: Rashwan McDonald. Right. Next guest is an award winning civil
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  Speaker 1: rights attorney, autism advocate, bestselling author, TV host, and illegal
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  Speaker 1: analyst for CNN. Please welcome back to Money Making Conversations
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  Speaker 1: or Riva Martin. Hello, Rashean, how are you my friend? Good? Good?
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  Speaker 1: Areva so you know the West coast? Correct, Yes, I
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  Speaker 1: say Angeles time because you know I'm on the East coast.
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  Speaker 1: And I, okay, what time I call a reva or
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  Speaker 1: email her? She responds, So what time do you get
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  Speaker 1: up on the West coast, Reriva? Well, I have a
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  Speaker 1: pretty strict exercise regime that I follow, so in order
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  Speaker 1: to do everything I need to do in the morning
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  Speaker 1: before I hit the gym, I get up around five
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  Speaker 1: am Pacific Standard time. Okay, get up at five am
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  Speaker 1: because you'll respond back to you. That's what I love
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  Speaker 1: about it, you know. So obviously the phone is always
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  Speaker 1: near you because you are always making yourself available to
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  Speaker 1: breaking news or breaking political news for CNN. Correct. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: And because my job is breaking news. You know, the
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  Speaker 1: news breaks in this world we live in today two seven.
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  Speaker 1: I'm always checking my news sites to see what's going on,
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  Speaker 1: what's hot, what's you know, what's trending, because I never
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  Speaker 1: know when I'm going to have to show up and
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  Speaker 1: start talking about what's happening, or get a call or
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  Speaker 1: email saying did you see this story? Or what are
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  Speaker 1: your thoughts? What are your you know, your your opinions.
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  Speaker 1: And I'm a news junky. I love it, so I
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  Speaker 1: don't feel like I'm working. I feel like I'm enriching
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  Speaker 1: myself and it's what I love. I love news, so
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  Speaker 1: I can't consume enough of it. Now you've seeing it
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  Speaker 1: being an analysts on seeing it, you know, everybody wants jobs,
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  Speaker 1: and how did that opportunity come to you? And how
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  Speaker 1: do you, Like I said, you always told me you
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  Speaker 1: Enjorgia News. You stay on top of it naturally. Anyway,
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  Speaker 1: how did the opportunity to come to you? Well, that's
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  Speaker 1: a good question. I get asked that question a lot,
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  Speaker 1: and you're writing lots of people. He's a lawyer friend
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  Speaker 1: of mine and sends every time he sees me, says
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  Speaker 1: the reve I want your job. Uh. But I'm very fortunate.
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  Speaker 1: I started guests appearing. You know, I made myself available
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  Speaker 1: to some local news channels here in Los Angeles to
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  Speaker 1: talk about a bunch of local topics and things that
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  Speaker 1: were in the news in the Los Angeles community. And
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  Speaker 1: starting out doing those local news segments led me to
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  Speaker 1: getting some opportunities to talk on national TV. And it
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  Speaker 1: wasn't just being n it was MSNBC, it was Stocked,
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  Speaker 1: it was uh ABC News and other national news outlets
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  Speaker 1: is where I actually started and before I actually became
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  Speaker 1: a paid contributor and a contracted with CNN, I would
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  Speaker 1: frequently appear, sometimes in one day on four or five
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  Speaker 1: different networks, UH, including UH, the BBC and Good Morning
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  Speaker 1: Britain and some shows that only you know can be
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  Speaker 1: UH shows that are aired outside the country. No, as
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  Speaker 1: you is, So, what you do, I think is is opinionated.
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  Speaker 1: It has to be fact driven. Do you feel pressure
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  Speaker 1: do you feel to get it right or because of
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  Speaker 1: the fact that it is an opinion but it is
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  Speaker 1: fact based. How do how do you deal with that? Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: that's a good question too, Rashan, And yes, I do
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  Speaker 1: feel pressure to be accurate because people follow me, people
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  Speaker 1: watch me, people UH quote me, they recite what they
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  Speaker 1: hear me say. And I take that very seriously. And
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  Speaker 1: when I give my opinion or I you know, way
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  Speaker 1: in on issues and I'm talking, you know, some of
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  Speaker 1: the biggest issues in this country, from abortion rights to
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  Speaker 1: sexual harassment to you know, the political debates that we
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  Speaker 1: just had with the Democratic candidates. UH, police brutality, police shootings,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, all of the big issues that that are
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  Speaker 1: in the news every day. I typically am weighing in
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  Speaker 1: on and I want the information I provide to be accurate,
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  Speaker 1: don't want it to be quote unquote fake news. I
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  Speaker 1: don't want to give the wrong statistics. I don't want
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  Speaker 1: to mislead people about the facts. So I often tell
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  Speaker 1: people for a three minute segment that I'm doing, I
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  Speaker 1: may spend three to five hours researching and reading, and
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  Speaker 1: not just one outlet or one opinion or one source,
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  Speaker 1: but reading and listening to videos and getting as much
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  Speaker 1: factual background as I can because unfortunately, so much there's
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  Speaker 1: a lot of noise in the news. Uh there's so
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  Speaker 1: many different sites, there's so many different sources, and unfortunately,
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  Speaker 1: now you may have a story and that's released and
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  Speaker 1: it will be picked up by a hundred different outlets,
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  Speaker 1: and that story may contain a bunch of inaccuracies, and
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  Speaker 1: everybody just picks up on it and starts reciting it
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  Speaker 1: as if it is accurate. But when you do your
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  Speaker 1: research and big deeper, you'll learn that maybe some of
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  Speaker 1: the facts, the facts and from Nation Sided are actually inaccurate.
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  Speaker 1: So I think I have a responsibility that someone who
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  Speaker 1: has a large platform to make sure that I'm using
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  Speaker 1: that platform in a responsible way. Well, you've always been
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  Speaker 1: responsible when I've spoken to you. Your background at the St.
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  Speaker 1: Louis uh Inner City. You grew up in the inner
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  Speaker 1: city and you went east and that go with a
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  Speaker 1: Harvard grad and now you west. You have a law
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  Speaker 1: firm with your husband based in Los Angeles, Martin and Martin.
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  Speaker 1: How is that work? You know, working in the environment
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  Speaker 1: of trying to maintain a balance, like we're gonna get
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  Speaker 1: your kids, because that's a major part of your balanced life, because,
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  Speaker 1: like you said, you up in five years a ragiar resume.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't know this. You you you run five k races. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I became an avid runner. I was doing half a
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  Speaker 1: marathons a couple of years ago. Uh, and I kind
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  Speaker 1: of half marathon, rishawn, not even close to half maybe trotten.
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  Speaker 1: I'm trotting friend as a marathon or and she got
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  Speaker 1: me excited and geeked about running, So I was that
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  Speaker 1: was pretty hard pour for a while. I've kind of
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  Speaker 1: switched up and I'm working out more in the gym now,
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  Speaker 1: but I still I'm gonna do a five k on
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  Speaker 1: the fourth of July here to celebrate the holiday. But
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  Speaker 1: you know, you mentioned balance life and It is so important,
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  Speaker 1: whether you're a woman or a man, that you have
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  Speaker 1: not only what you do professionally to earn a living,
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  Speaker 1: but what you do socially, what you do for the community,
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  Speaker 1: what you do to just even you know, gratify yourself
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  Speaker 1: and and uh, you know, enrich your own soul. So
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  Speaker 1: I'm all about self care, self love. Uh. I'm also
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  Speaker 1: about you know, finding those opportunities to do those things
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  Speaker 1: that that really helped, you know, keep you going, those
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  Speaker 1: things that motivate you, that inspire you, that give you
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  Speaker 1: a sense of renewal. And it's sometimes can't get lost.
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  Speaker 1: And I hear a lot of women. I threw a
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  Speaker 1: lot of speaking around the country, particularly to women business
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  Speaker 1: owners and professionals and aspiring entrepreneurs. And that's always the
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  Speaker 1: biggest question, you know, can I have it all? Can
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  Speaker 1: I have a family? Can I have a husband or
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  Speaker 1: a partner or a a spouse and children, and you know,
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  Speaker 1: be successful in whatever my career choices are. We we
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  Speaker 1: mentioned earlier about you being a autism advocacy advocate, and
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  Speaker 1: then your youngest son has autism and you started a
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  Speaker 1: special needs networking On July twenty seven, Holly Robinson Pete
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  Speaker 1: and your husband will be honoring you and UH tremendous
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  Speaker 1: program that I will be in attendance. I will be
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  Speaker 1: there also long being honored that same night to be
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  Speaker 1: an Eva Longoria. When you're being honored because the recognition
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  Speaker 1: have come to you on a regular basis, because you're
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  Speaker 1: passionate about it, because this is a personal concern with yours.
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  Speaker 1: To be honored on that event on July twenty seven,
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  Speaker 1: What does that mean for your brand? What it means
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  Speaker 1: to the attention you're trying to bring to the cause
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  Speaker 1: of autism. Because also Holly Robinson Pete and Rod Pete
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  Speaker 1: have a have a son who it's autism as well. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I'm excited about it. You have brought me and Holly
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  Speaker 1: and I have collaborated in the past, so they have
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  Speaker 1: a foundation uh that works. They do a lot of
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  Speaker 1: work with adults, with artists, and they've opened up a
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  Speaker 1: couple of centers that provide job training. Uh. The work
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  Speaker 1: in my organization does. It's different and that we've really
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  Speaker 1: focused on underserved poor communities, early intervention, early detection, and
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  Speaker 1: providing autism behavioral therapies for kids as well as advocacy
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  Speaker 1: training for their parents and We've also focused a lot
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  Speaker 1: on legislation within really the drivers of some key laws
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  Speaker 1: that have been passed in the state of California, and
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  Speaker 1: only consultants at the national level on several federal pieces
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  Speaker 1: of legislation. So it's great when you have organizations, you know,
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  Speaker 1: whether it's Save the Wells or Saved the Children, that
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  Speaker 1: have common goals, common purpose for those organizations to figure
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  Speaker 1: out ways to work together. When I first started my organization,
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  Speaker 1: you know, people would always ask me about Holly, and
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  Speaker 1: you know, Holly tells me people always ask her about me.
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  Speaker 1: But what I'm excited about it is an opportunity to
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  Speaker 1: show her audience, which she has this really at this
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  Speaker 1: event she gives every summer. She's at this twenty one
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  Speaker 1: or twenty third year, but it's it's been going strong.
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  Speaker 1: And autism and Purposes disease which her dad had partisans
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  Speaker 1: but now her brother has partisans. But just as the
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  Speaker 1: opportunity for me to show the autism and the broader
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  Speaker 1: social justice vistability community that you know here to nonprofits
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  Speaker 1: run by African American families who have been touched by
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  Speaker 1: this disorder, and you know, we're working together for a
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  Speaker 1: common goal. Which is helping thousands, not billions, of other
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  Speaker 1: families and children are So I'm excited about it, Excited
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  Speaker 1: to see you, Excited to see uh, you know a
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  Speaker 1: great group of people that Holly and Rotten bring together
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  Speaker 1: every years the Star studed events. Yes, it is July
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  Speaker 1: twenty seven, Malibu, California. Yeah, beautiful state, amount overlooking the
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  Speaker 1: ocean or ever your focus going in and out? Are
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  Speaker 1: you walking around or your phone? Okay? Cool? Was it
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  Speaker 1: going in and out? Sometimes you're clear, sometimes you're not clear.
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  Speaker 1: And I do want to make sure that you know
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  Speaker 1: it's a big party, but with a really incredible purpose. Well,
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  Speaker 1: the thing about it is that you know, we've got
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  Speaker 1: two minutes less than two minutes left, and I know
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  Speaker 1: you're branching out into doing your own productions, Uh, you know,
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  Speaker 1: executive producing your own shows and pitching your own ideas.
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  Speaker 1: Why is that a desire? You're you know, you're a
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  Speaker 1: successful lawyer, you're an advocate, and you have a voice
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  Speaker 1: in social media. You've been recognized as a legal analysts
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  Speaker 1: of seeing it. Why is it important for you to
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  Speaker 1: produce your own projects? You know, I feel Roshan, I've
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  Speaker 1: always had lots of stories decided me, and I told
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  Speaker 1: those stories of different platforms via social media, contributed tons
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  Speaker 1: of articles to online and print publications like Time, uh,
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  Speaker 1: Motto dot com and CNN dot com. And I've just
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  Speaker 1: I've been a writer pretty much throughout my career, and
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  Speaker 1: TV is another medium through which I get to tell stories.
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  Speaker 1: So I am excited about this new chapter. I get
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  Speaker 1: to add producer title uh to my you know, long
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  Speaker 1: list of things that I've been able to accomplish in
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  Speaker 1: my life and and it this is another way that
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  Speaker 1: I get to tell what I think are important stories.
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  Speaker 1: What I think are stories that will not only informing
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  Speaker 1: it and educate, but stories that will also inspire and
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  Speaker 1: motivate it and and cause people to take action in
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  Speaker 1: their own communities and in other and in their own lives.
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  Speaker 1: As an advocate, that's what my whole journey is about,
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  Speaker 1: welcome to Money Making Conversation for the very first time,
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  Speaker 1: Dr Lynn Richardson, Well, good morning is thank you so much.
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  Speaker 1: Mr McDonald, thank you. I'm honored to be here with
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  Speaker 1: you where I'm honored to have you because we met
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  Speaker 1: favorite person, mc light and that's how I got my girls.
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  Speaker 1: You know how I feel about mc light now and
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  Speaker 1: so yes, but it's all about you. It's all about
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  Speaker 1: you on this show right now. Dr Lynn Richardson, um UM,
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  Speaker 1: I want you to talk about because I always talk
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  Speaker 1: about multiple streams of income, and that's in your title
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  Speaker 1: of your book. What exact actually is multiple streams of
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  Speaker 1: income just to the layman person, it's having more than
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  Speaker 1: one way of making money. UH. And you know I
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  Speaker 1: wrote this book, Mr McDonald because not many people have
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  Speaker 1: mastered what you have mastered over your career, and that
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  Speaker 1: is applying strategy to UH finances. And I was in
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  Speaker 1: my twenties and I had a whole bunch of jobs.
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  Speaker 1: It was like, my name is Lenny, and I got
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  Speaker 1: plenty from good time. I could tell you some lighters
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  Speaker 1: I could be your hair, your nails, nail heelps you
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  Speaker 1: write in insurance policy, get a job, quit a job,
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  Speaker 1: whatever it was. But I was like being on a treadmill.
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  Speaker 1: I was running fast and going nowhere. I was unfulfilled,
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  Speaker 1: and I certainly was not monetizing any of those income
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  Speaker 1: streams um the way I thought I would, UH, and
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  Speaker 1: the whole idea that many of us are serial entrepreneurs
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  Speaker 1: created people who come up with ideas and think it's
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  Speaker 1: the next best thing to do, and you jump on
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  Speaker 1: board and you get in there and you find out
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  Speaker 1: it's not what you thought it was, or it's more
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  Speaker 1: work than you think it is. And so I wrote
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  Speaker 1: this book for people like me who needed to find
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  Speaker 1: their way, uh, to find purpose, to find strategy, but
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  Speaker 1: more importantly, to figure out that you can do it all,
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  Speaker 1: but you just not you can't do it all at
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  Speaker 1: the same time. This back up the step here because
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  Speaker 1: you was talking about you know, when you were doing insurance,
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  Speaker 1: you was doing hair, you're doing you're doing all these
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  Speaker 1: skill sets and give out all the advice, but there
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  Speaker 1: was no check tied to them. Give it out the advice.
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  Speaker 1: Why well, there was no check tied to them because
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  Speaker 1: I didn't have a strategy, right, you know. I talked
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  Speaker 1: about the personality of an entrepreneur and and that one
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  Speaker 1: of them is the dreamer. The dreamer things everything is
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  Speaker 1: gonna be great. The dreamer think that this idea is
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  Speaker 1: a great idea, and it probably is. But if you
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  Speaker 1: don't have a thinker, see see that's what you have said,
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  Speaker 1: Mr McDonald, a thinker. The sinker is the strategist, the
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  Speaker 1: thing kerls gonna ask all the questions that the dreamer
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  Speaker 1: doesn't want to hear. The thinker's gonna say, now, how
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  Speaker 1: are we gonna do this, what is the plan, how
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  Speaker 1: are we going to roll this out? Who are we
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  Speaker 1: in business with? How much does it call? How much
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  Speaker 1: work does that actually take? Uh? And so on. And
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  Speaker 1: then the other part of it is the storyteller. Who's
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  Speaker 1: gonna tell the story. You've said that to me many times,
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  Speaker 1: who's gonna market it, who's gonna put it out there,
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  Speaker 1: who's gonna get it into the universe? And then of
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  Speaker 1: course that that that last thing, who is the hunter.
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  Speaker 1: The hunter is always seeking new opportunities. So you can
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  Speaker 1: be a dreamer with a great idea, but if you
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  Speaker 1: so I think that's the reason why people don't fulfill
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  Speaker 1: of all of those different steps. We really is really great. Uh,
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  Speaker 1: we're talking to Dr Lynn Richardson will discovers her new
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  Speaker 1: book The Symphony, A Guide to Creating and balancing multiple
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  Speaker 1: streams of income. The reason I was excited about having
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  Speaker 1: you on the show because to give where I'm at,
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  Speaker 1: you know, experience, but just confidence, uh, the ability to say, hey,
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  Speaker 1: that costs if you want me to talk about that,
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  Speaker 1: if you want me to walk over there and talk
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  Speaker 1: to you about that, and that comes with a fee,
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  Speaker 1: because it's really tired to fear, because the people need
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  Speaker 1: to understand that a lot of times we like the attention,
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  Speaker 1: We like people coming to us asking us for advice.
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  Speaker 1: But guess what if you put a price tag on it,
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  Speaker 1: they might stop coming. Well, well, guess what. You want
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  Speaker 1: them to stop coming because you want to stop being free.
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  Speaker 1: You want them to stop coming to me and say, oh,
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  Speaker 1: rou sean here. Tell you guess what somebody around the
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  Speaker 1: corner with lesser value, that's your experience. It's actually charging
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  Speaker 1: spread walkoming and all this all this busy work and
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  Speaker 1: not getting paid for And that's why I wanted to say.
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  Speaker 1: What she was talking about, all those different jobs, all
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  Speaker 1: what is that value? How do how does the person
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  Speaker 1: you expand on that? Yes, you know, it's interesting that
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  Speaker 1: of say amen to what you just said, because in
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  Speaker 1: a local bread at Rushan MacDonald's office. You're not gonna
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  Speaker 1: get a local bread at my office. You're actually gonna
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  Speaker 1: get a strategy. You're gonna get advice. You're gonna get
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  Speaker 1: an idea, you're gonna get a new thought process. And
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  Speaker 1: there's a cost attached to that. And this is so
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  Speaker 1: what it's been. But the work is just beginning. That's
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  Speaker 1: what it really showed me, Mr McDonald, that it's not
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  Speaker 1: financial bondage? Well, this is amazing interview. I mad because
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  Speaker 1: I don't know why I've not had you on this
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  Speaker 1: show before. You're brilliant, You are you are, You're entertaining you.
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  Speaker 1: You have a common sense about you that uh the
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  Speaker 1: One point of advised that people make a mistake all
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  Speaker 1: Mr McDonald, you haven't had me on before because I
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  Speaker 1: songwriter recording artists from Dallas, Texas. See I'm from Houston, Texas,
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  Speaker 1: so I know Dallas two and forty marls Oft North
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  Speaker 1: has recorded six acclaimed studio albums and a Christmas collection
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  Speaker 1: Please welcome to Money Making Conversations. My man from Dallas, Texas,
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  Speaker 1: Anthony Evans. Hey, I'm just hyped, man. I'm just hyped
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  Speaker 1: because I you know, we've been trying to connect and
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  Speaker 1: we finally connected on this interview today because I wanted
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  Speaker 1: to bring your money making conversation, because you know, I'm
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  Speaker 1: a type of person. Every every Tuesday I meet with
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: my my, my producers, and they pitch out people. They
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: recommend people would be great for the show, who have
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: great stories. And I just when they told me your story,
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  Speaker 1: you know, I just felt I wanted to hear it
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  Speaker 1: from you and talk about what drives you. That's the
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: one first question I want to ask you, Anthony, what
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: drives you to be successful? You know what there are
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: there are a few things that drive me. The first
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: thing I think about is being able to excellence. Drives me.
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  Speaker 1: Actually being able to find them a way to another way,
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  Speaker 1: avenues to be excellent. That that drives me at what
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: I do when it comes to being on the stage
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: and off the stage, but when it comes to planning
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: tours and events. But also what driving me is is
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: feeling like I'm actually fulfilling what I was born to do,
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: what I was calling to do. That is a driving
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: force to me, so excellent and then being in the
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: center of what I I'm supposed to be doing um
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: and not settling that that those are those are the
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: driving factors for me. And then so when somebody tells you.
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: I would tell you about me, a little bit about me,
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: you know, like my degrees in mathematics. And so I
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: was just in college. I was doing stand up comic
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: at night, stand up comedy at night. And so, you know,
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: people just like telling you know you're not gonna be
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: a Eddie Murphy. You know, people really tell you, but
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: your friends and your family can actually hold you back.
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  Speaker 1: I'm just let you know that, right, the people you understand,
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  Speaker 1: the people who are so close to you, can actually
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: be the people put the nail in it. But are
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  Speaker 1: you wasting your time? You're wasting your time and so
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  Speaker 1: so and so when I left IBM do stand up comedy,
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: they really thought I was crazy. And so so when
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: I when I look at you, and because you know
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: you you're now living in the Los Angeles areas, so
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: you're you're transplant. So how did you undercome overcome people
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: telling you what you couldn't do versus achieving what you
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: are achieving? Well, I had a very great from my family,
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: but my they has always been very supportive of me.
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: Before I even knew what my ability was and what
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: I was going to actually end up doing, my parents
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: spotted it in me first, before I actually knew that
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: I had sang the way that I sing or knew
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: that I had the ability and music, they spotted it
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: and then they started to They started to cultivate that
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: before I was even wanting to do it. So I'm
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: very grateful and uh for that. But then I also
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: watched my dad, who was from both both my parents.
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: My mom is from South America, my dad is from
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: the inner City of Baltimore, and stats would say that
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  Speaker 1: they aren't supposed to be who they are now, but
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: I watched them not operate upon what stats. But they
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: were not defined by what the statistics said they should be,
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: and they would step into situations where they were the
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: odd man out. They were different. They were like, where
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: are you from? You know that those kind of vibes
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: happened because they weren't the traditional person that was expected
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: to be where they were. But they walked in there
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: knowing what their ability was and let everybody's um knowledge
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: of let let everybody figure agree out what they already knew.
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  Speaker 1: They would walk into a room and be like, eventually
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  Speaker 1: y'all will figure out that we're supposed to be here,
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  Speaker 1: but until then, we're gonna stay here. We're not gonna
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  Speaker 1: leave because y'all think we're not supposed to be here.
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  Speaker 1: So I watched that my whole life, and so now
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: it created us, and there it created a driving me
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: where I am from my nature likes to choose faith
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  Speaker 1: over fear and courage overcomfort. That's that's just because I
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  Speaker 1: know on the other side of that there is something bigger,
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  Speaker 1: broader and better waiting for me. When I choose faith
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  Speaker 1: over fear, our courage overcomfort. That that's how I've gotten
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  Speaker 1: to the place I am. It's because of my my family.
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: Now now you you appeared on the Voice correct, Yes, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I'm just trying to remember because I's also I would
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  Speaker 1: look at some photos and I was and you know,
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: I'm one of those surfers, you know. I look at
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: television and I just go from channel to channel. And
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: now that did you sing a moth and a song
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: on the Voice? Yeah, yeah, yeah, I wasn't into that song.
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: I wasn't in that that that pan. I love our game,
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: but I wasn't. You know, you do down Anthony our
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: the Marvin game because people have told me I looked
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: like Martha Gage. I'm a Marvin gay fan, know, I'm saying,
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: I'm just gonna let you know that you put you
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: put me in the right angle, put me in the
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: right darkness. I'm Marvin Gaye, oh day know and so
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: and when you did that, Marvin, I said, wow, wow,
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: because you're a certain artists you just can't do. And
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: I remember, I remember because because because at the time,
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: Aguilara was still one of the judges. Correct, Yeah, she
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: she was. She was my coach on the show. Yeah,
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: I don't know you. I would dude, Hey, hey, that
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: might you might not have felt it, but you hit
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: it though, Okay, thank you. Which it's hard to feel
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: that scenario in general, where a quiet room and four backs,
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: you know what I mean, face you when you're saying
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: like you're trying to get people to turn around, it's
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: just a weird feeling. And I come from the church.
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: I come from church world, So like, what's going on? Right? Right?
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: I understand what you're saying because you used to people
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: giving it. It's being inspired by your voice, being inspired
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: by your movement, and you're looking at four chairs, you're
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: going okay, okay, and then then it's the song goes
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: along who it starts eating on you. Who's gonna turn rap,
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: who's gonna turn around? They're not gonna do me like this.
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: It's a lot of emotions to run your head when
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: you're actually performing on the voice, because you have convinced
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: four chairs to turn around, and as you say and
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: then turn around, you go okay, really on National TV. Really,
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: and normally you convinced them, You convinced people to turn
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: around normally with intensity and kind of going off and
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: doing the most. But Marvin gay didn't do that. So
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: I was like, I was choosing in my head to
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: honor Marvin Gaye and sing the song the way he would,
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: which is chilled. But but the way you got those
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: chairs to turn around was by doing the most. And
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: so I was I'm conflicted in my head because it's
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: just a weird it's just a weird feeling to try
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: to you know, he is the antithesis of doing the most.
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: He just was him and everybody loved him, you know
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: what I mean. So I was trying to figure it
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: out anyway. I want to let you know I know
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: of your abilities from that time frame. Now, prior to that,
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: you had already dropped an album. Correct, Yeah, I actually
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: had to three I had three albums out before The Voice,
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: So that's why it was weird going to the show
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: because people were like, you already have a career, You're
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: doing it. And that goes back to what I was
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: saying a minute ago, which is choosing courage over comfort
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: and faith. I could have been comfortable and just stayed
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: where I was, but this was an opportunity to do
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: something broad. I knew people would have stuff to say,
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: like what are you doing on a topic like why
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: would you do? You know? People talk, but I ask
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: forward to what's going on in my life because of
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: that show and the people in that nineties seconds during
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: a battle round, I sang in front of fifteen million
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: people at that point. That's how many people were watching
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: the show. And what happened after the show, because I
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: chose to be to move to to push through that
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: moment of like, wy should I be here or not?
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: Has been amazing. Stuff has happened off camera that no,
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: y'all wouldn't know about unless I told you, But it's
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: it's major. If we mentioned the Voice, we mentioned the
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: albums everything. What is your message? What is your general purpose?
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: I always tell people that I'm constantly building uh content
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: so I could just push down my efforts so people
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: could look at understand I am, I'm a three sixty
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: brand and so yeah, so like you know, I mentioned
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: the VARs and before the Wars you had already dropped
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: three cs. You know what I'm saying. And you're about
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: to go on a fall tour with your sister. What
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: is what is the plan? You know you got that,
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: you got the turn key company, You're reaching masses. You
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: know you even knew the fact that, hey, when you
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: was on divorce, you were seen by fifteen million. You're
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: very calculated in your approach and your planner correct, right, Yes, yes,
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: I'm very calculated in my approach. And I can answer
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: your question on two sides. I'll inswo it first from
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: the business side, because that's obviously what we're here. We're
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: here to talk about. Um. The business side is I
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: want to work hard. Basically, I want to work hard
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: in these years of creating new concepts and ideas so
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: that I'm diversified. And that's just a basic you know that,
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: that's just basic. That's released the money business. I want
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: to be diversified because I'm also aware of the fact
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: that in entertainment, especially or in I do gospel, but
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: in entertainment in general, I have to be aware that
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: there's always some new talent coming and eventually the road,
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: I'll be fifty five years old and there will be
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: some other year old that that is doing. I don't
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: let you have to go out and sing. I don't
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: want to feel like, you know, anybody need me to
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: come saying because I gotta pay them more. I don't
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: want that. Maybe it made me think of what are
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: other ways I can be intuitive about what um using
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: branches of this ability not not going way off. And
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: that was starting the production company. And that's also the
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: vocal vocal arranging and contracting, which started because of the voice.
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: Like we didn't talk about that, but I've vocal arranged
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: and contracted for Kanye and to Chains and Tyler the
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: creatives Last Album and Blackish and all these different TVs
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: because of the chance I took on myself going to
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: the voice. So it started to diversify me. So the
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: goal on the business side is to be diversified to
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: what I don't have to I get to do what
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: I want to do. I'm doing what I'm living kind
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: of in a state of um of of developing that
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: so that later on I don't have a lot of
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: half to I can. I can operate from a place
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: of want to not have to. And then sir, yes,
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: you know I call that. I call that multiple streams
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: of income on this show that you just talked about,
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: called multiple streams of income. Like you said, Hey, man,
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: when I wake up, if somebody tell me no, I go,
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: I just go back to sleep. That's just one, you know.
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: Oh oh that's overweight. Okay, cool, okay, cool, my wife
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: look at me. You know, I don't stress. I don't.
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: I'm not. I'm not gonna put myself in a position
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: where somebody tells one person tells me my my, my
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: gigs over with, my life's over, my last checks over.
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: That can't happen with me. I've learned that. I've learned that.
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: And that's all you're telling that my listeners in our
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: viewer exactly exactly. And then the other point, it's real quick.
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: I was gonna touch on it that my purpose also
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: is not just to be um about not well. Because
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: I'm a gospel singer. I'm not just trying to be
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: about the bottom line, which is very important. But I
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: also want to make sure that the work I'm doing
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: is resonating in people's hearts and their souls. And I
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: there's don't be a story to tell above and beyond
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: money or number one, because those can come and go.
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: But but what happens in the lives of the people
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: that you're impacting, whatever field you're in. It's a happens
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: to be more obvious with me because of what I do.
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: But I think that that the peace and the emotional
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: health and spiritual health that comes from Matt's also has
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: a value. May not be a monetary value, but there
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: is something to be said about making a good living
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: and being excited about what's happening in you and others
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: emotionally and spiritually. I believe it's all tied together. That's
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: all prosperities to me, that's all being wealthy to me,
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: It goes beyond just the bank account. I love this dude.
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: You from Dallas, Texas. I'm from Houston, Texas. Uh, I'm
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: a foodie. I'm a foodie. I got I got nanny
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: seconds left in this show. Um, I'm gonna just tell
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: you this. Uh, you know how the best food in
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: the world is in Houston, Texas. Now I'm just gonna
• 39:42
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• 39:49
  Speaker 1: you've been in Houston. Now, what where do you ate
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: toward you? Is where we live in Houston. Loopy, he's
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: not lying. Looping is you get the Pento beans? They listen,
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: I get to everything. I'm telling something. I would tell
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: my wife Chico, I come home because I live in Houston.
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: I live in Atlanta. She said, what you want say,
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: let's go by loope because they staying breakfast. They say breakfast.
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: You know I'm telling the true And though I'm telling something,
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: those beans with what they look through the chip, Oh lord,
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: and that's where it starts to me. They got so
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: much going on in there. So yes, I I actually
• 40:31
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• 40:32
  Speaker 1: what is this loope to a place? You need to
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: slow it out? Like that's that's how much you need
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: to start. Family means it to Rushaw and my wife.
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: I'm going to town Saturday. I kid you not, I'll
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: be leading a loope is told to you because I
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• 40:52
  Speaker 1: to call me boy gay perfect. I gotta listen. I
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: will hit you up at two seconds. All right, but man,
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: you stay strong. I love you, brother. You keep winning
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: and always know this is family. Come to me. We
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  Speaker 1: a great day. I always have a great day. The
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  Speaker 1: saw our power couple. Hadn't had them on short a
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: long time, but they are fantastic. Last time I in
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: in season three of Black Love and when I had
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: them own the season one at Premier and it was
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: two great numbers. They are the creators of the popular
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: series Black Love that airs on the own network UM
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: two great numbers uh in season three. Like I stated earlier,
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: the goal is to become the hub for black couples
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: and singles looking to build community and conversation around healthy relationships.
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  Speaker 1: A free stage of life. Please welcome back to money
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  Speaker 1: making Conversation. My favorite couple, Cody and Tommy Oliver. Hello,
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: your favorite couple. You gotta to you know, because y'all
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: y'all doing what so many people have said. It is
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: a problem in the in the black community, not understanding
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: relationships amongst each other, not communicating with each other. And
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: it also you know, I don't know, are you helping
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: to find what black relationships can be? And they and
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: when I say that, I mean they could be so
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: many different levels and so sometimes you know, I come
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: from a traditional black family, you know, more from the South.
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: My mom didn't work, she stayed at home and and
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: a lot of African American's my age have that experience
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: like that. But technology has changed so many things. So
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: the experience of what black love is is being communicated
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: differently to so many people. And that's why you are
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: my favorite. Tommy favorite is incredibly kind and we appreciate
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: that a lot. Absolutely tell me what's going on? Season three? Brother?
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: Come on now? Season three? There was the season three Yeah,
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: you you seem to have the scoop. I have to
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: scoop that I'm gonna have some information. But to me,
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: about it that you guys created this project, which which
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: I think is really let's go let's go back to
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: getting started. The first started because it was just an idea.
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: It was a concept where you called what I say,
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: called on favors to get people to reveal themselves in
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: an emotional manner as a couple. And then it and
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: then it aired and wail right, so we um, you know,
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: not quite that simple, but it felt like Hollywood's magic
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: happened for several years before there. But yeah, we we
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: certainly called on favors in terms of relationships with with
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: some friends and friends of friends and parents, friends to
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: sit down and have honest conversations. And Tommy and I
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: have kept it just the four of us in a room,
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: met him and the couple. So there's no gaffer, there's
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: no p a, there's no you know, there's yeah, the
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: four of us. Tommy does all the production and I
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: just asked the question, and and so we keep it
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: really intimate. And then and we've and we've tried to
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: maintain that um through season one, season two and what's
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: to come. And you know what, I think you move
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: inspired us. I think we should probably make an anouncement
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: sometimes here's the deal. Here's the deal, Tommy, you inspire me. Okay,
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: we're gonna talk about a little bit about the things
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: that you guys do outside of UH, outside of UH,
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: you know, black love because of the fact that this
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: is so important because of the fact that black people
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: were interesting group of people were interesting people. You know,
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: we don't talk about situation. When it comes to health issues,
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: we don't. We don't lad to talk about mental issues,
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: you know, we don't want to talk about I definitely
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: want to talk about these sexual issues. Okay, So, so
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: we we we were live in this little boxed world
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: of bad information, you know, and so and that bad
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: information really doesn't help because guess what if you're passing
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: along bad information leads to more ignorance, and so socially
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: and emotionally within our community we live. We live in
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: a box of lies, I believe, and your show, I
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: feel starts to peel back the truth and allow people
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: to be honest. That's why that's why I'm I'm fans
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: because of the fact that, you know, it's an idea
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: that that that only YouTube could have thought of, because
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: of the fact that it was derived through through a
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: trail of emotions through an idea of that this is
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: the truth and this is what's really happening, and we
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: want to reveal it. That's why when I watched an episode,
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: you know, it's really intimate to me. And you know,
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: I see him sitting here close to each other on
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: the sofa. You know, nobody's you know, nobody's worried about
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: the shirt being buttoned up right on the pants. Talk
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: to time. They just you know, I'll be going, Okay,
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: they could have fixed their shirt right there, but this
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: is but this is, this is the moment. You know,
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: I'm being a producer, you know what I'm saying exactly.
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: Trust me, sometimes I'm thinking it too. But I'm also like,
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: you know what, I don't want to stop right what's
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: what's happening right now? I don't want to stop someone
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: from sharing something by making themselves conscious. And so much
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: of it is, you know, like Cody said, it's the
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: four of his interroment. And so when you're sitting down
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: with your friends or with your marriage mentors, if you
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: are fortunate enough to have them and somebody's shirt has
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: had something, you're not gonna be like, yo, bro, what's
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: up with your shirt? Right? Right right, right, right right,
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: because it will it will break the moment because it's
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: like it's about our story about how we should look
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: you feel me, yeah, and then that's what that's what
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: you know. I feel that that stops communication within the
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: within the our black families. And that's why when I
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: look at the show, when you first came on the
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: show and they sent me some of take to review
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: the show and really get a clue understand of the show,
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: my big takeaway was thank you, thank you for allowing
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: us to talk and what what and hear me speak
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: like this, What has been the most satisfied takeaway from
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: you guys with your show? I think it's been twofold one.
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: There is a sense of selfishness and so we started
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: the show because there are a couple of reasons. The
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: one was because we didn't have the examples that we
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: felt we needed in order to be properly equipped and
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: to be able to have a marriage back into this
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: name until we wanted to talk to people who had
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: done it. And so I think we've learned a lot
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: and we're still struggling and working through things, but having
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: gone through these couples in these interviews and this experience
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: has certainly given us tools that helps us day to day.
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: But beyond that, like you said, the idea of there
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: are two things, we don't see ourselves. So before this
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: we hadn't seen ourselves much in the right way. We
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: were always categorized or misrepresented on TV or on social media.
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: And but we knew sort of like privately, we knew
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: that there were couples that made our work. We knew
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: that you know, there was a neighbor, the neighbor across
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: the street, or that you know a couple from the
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: church or whatever has been but they just never got
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: any shine. And so we wanted to be able to
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: show people no, no, no, we are out there. It's
• 49:39
  Speaker 1: happy love and couples. And then we wanted to be
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: able to normalize the this understanding of marriage and how
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: things actually worked, which is very different than if you
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: take your cues from TV or film. Now, when you
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: say when I was when I was reading some of
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: your credits, it was saying, uh, the goal is to
• 49:58
  Speaker 1: become the hub, which means that you want to be
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: a creative content of black couples and singles looking to
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: build community and conversation around healthy relationships at every stage
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: of your life. Explain that man, explain that format. So
• 50:13
  Speaker 1: with with some Black Love, the series that is on own, UM,
• 50:17
  Speaker 1: we were able to show couples, married couples making it
• 50:21
  Speaker 1: work and what that requires, right UM. But one of
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: the things that we noticed is that in order to
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: have a healthy, happy relationship, a lot of the times
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: the relationships of your past and not you know, boyfriend's
• 50:35
  Speaker 1: girlfriends exclusively, but your parents, your siblings, your best friends,
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: those relationships being fractured, those relationships having trauma, those relationships
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: being uncomfortable or as you mentioned, you know, not talking
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: about what's real. UM play a role in your marriage
• 50:52
  Speaker 1: because they play a role in your expectations and UM
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: and how you operate in your patterns. And so we
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: actually launched black love dot com to expand the conversation
• 51:03
  Speaker 1: past marriage. You know, we felt like it was important
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: to keep talking about marriage and partnership, but also to
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: talk about those other I guess tenants of one's life
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: and how important it is when we're trying to like
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: build a relationship for decades UM, to make sure that
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: those other areas are healthy as well. This is a
• 51:21
  Speaker 1: passion project that I love talking to you too. About
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: because it's started with love. It's gonna be built on love,
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: and it's gonna be you guys are going to become
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: you know, content creators, content builders, holders of this information,
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: and distributors of this information. And I think that's amazing
• 51:39
  Speaker 1: that you've been able to find this level of balance
• 51:41
  Speaker 1: in your personal life and your professional life and something
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: that's a passion driven project that can make money. Rache.
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: And we didn't say we had any balance in our
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: personal life. What did you say? I said we we
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: didn't say we have any balance in our personal life.
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: You do have about three kids were under three. You're
• 52:03
  Speaker 1: talking to me on this radio show right now. There's
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: part there that's balance because the kids somewhere else, somebody,
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: somebody else take care. I know what balance is. I
• 52:10
  Speaker 1: got a kid, Okay, they in the interview of my life.
• 52:14
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