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Legendary comedian George Wallace discusses his career and how to maintain longevity in show business. · The Steve Harvey Morning Show

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  Speaker 3: for everyone. It's time to stop reading other people's success
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  Speaker 3: stories and start living your own. My guess is George Wallace.
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  Speaker 3: He is the author one of my favorite books, or
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  Speaker 3: Twit and Whatnot. We would discuss the current SAG and
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  Speaker 3: wj's strike and his long term impact.
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  Speaker 1: George Wallace's laughter has always been.
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  Speaker 3: The best medicine and he has a small business mindset
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  Speaker 3: which is giving him a career filled with longeviy. He
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  Speaker 3: just start you know, we're suppos to be talking about
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  Speaker 3: the sitcom because of the striker won't be able to
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  Speaker 3: talk about that.
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  Speaker 1: Then he just stopped that.
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  Speaker 3: You called clean slate with normal Leo Laveron Cox. It's
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  Speaker 3: a very talented brother. Saw him lying out the door
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  Speaker 3: with my good friend j Anthony Brown, let you know,
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  Speaker 3: and Myra j would let me know that stand up
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  Speaker 3: comedy is live and well if you're over sixty. George
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  Speaker 3: was with Metro Media back in nineteen seventy four, making
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  Speaker 3: seventy five thousand dollars a year selling Rags Rags, so
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  Speaker 3: he truly is a Rags the Richest Story. Please welcome
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  Speaker 3: to Money Making Conversation Masterclass, Doctor George Waller, Doctor George Wallers.
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  Speaker 4: Who wrote that story for you? That ain't that's not
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  Speaker 4: you just make up. That's a line to think that
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  Speaker 4: a big line? How old?
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  Speaker 5: Thank you for having me today.
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  Speaker 3: Hey, Jeorge, First of all, you came in my office
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  Speaker 3: and told this incredible story about rags and that's what
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  Speaker 3: you was doing in New York City. Can you explain
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  Speaker 3: to the audience because that really has created that small
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  Speaker 3: businessman mentalent and you always been a salesman. Talk about
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  Speaker 3: what you do do for a living before you started
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  Speaker 3: doing stand up comedy.
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  Speaker 4: Well, most important, you're talking about being a salesperson. We
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  Speaker 4: all deal with sales every day. If you're not selling,
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  Speaker 4: you're not living. You've got to sell you first, and
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  Speaker 4: you sell your products. And today our product and my
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  Speaker 4: product is laughter. So I always wanted to be a
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  Speaker 4: comedian six years old, but I had to find a
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  Speaker 4: beagle on an avenue to go to find out how
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  Speaker 4: can I make money so I don't have to starve
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  Speaker 4: while I'm in show business. Then I studied advertising and
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  Speaker 4: I found out that to be a good way to
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  Speaker 4: make a lot of money and no time and being
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  Speaker 4: a good salesperson. So I did that. I sold rags,
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  Speaker 4: Cleveland cotton products. I sold the sham Wow back in
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  Speaker 4: nineteen seventy two. Nineteen seventy two didn't even have a
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  Speaker 4: sham wow. You know what I'm talking about? Yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 4: product from dentist office.
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  Speaker 5: I used to have.
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  Speaker 4: A linen cloth, but now you notice it's it's a
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  Speaker 4: handy white with a plastic backing that will absorb the water.
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  Speaker 4: So but so real rights to gas stations. You're old
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  Speaker 4: enough to know you went to the gas station, ding, ding,
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  Speaker 4: That was what would ring and the guy will come
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  Speaker 4: out check you all and white people. So those are rags.
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  Speaker 4: Everybody needs the rags rag. You'd be surprised. The doctors,
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  Speaker 4: the dentists, the restaurants, stuff their homes, body shops. Everybody
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  Speaker 4: needs rags. And so I got caught up in that,
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  Speaker 4: and they told me I can make a lot of money,
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  Speaker 4: and sure enough I did, and life has just been
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  Speaker 4: because I sold a lot of rags and rags I
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  Speaker 4: sold to New York City UH Transit Authority, and then
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  Speaker 4: I sold. After I sold the rags to them, I
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  Speaker 4: started selling advertisers on the buses and subways and billboards
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  Speaker 4: in New York Metromedia to Time. So that's that's how
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  Speaker 4: I moved from That's how I transitioned. You gotta be
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  Speaker 4: careful how you use the word transition. Now I transitioned.
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  Speaker 4: I transitioned from rags to advertising. You gotta be you
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  Speaker 4: gotta transition. I'm working with wordors and I'm running a
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  Speaker 4: whole little bit of right. I don't want to tell
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  Speaker 4: I can tell you this. I'm transitioning aw myself into
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  Speaker 4: an old man. So you got to be careful how
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  Speaker 4: you I'm starting to work with one hand.
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  Speaker 3: But Joy, But Joy, let's slow down to that old
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  Speaker 3: man talk, because sometimes people do allow age to be
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  Speaker 3: an excuse, and you've never allowed age to be an
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  Speaker 3: excuse with you. And I say that because of the
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  Speaker 3: fact that when I went and saw you and j
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  Speaker 3: Anthony Brown.
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  Speaker 1: It was all age groups.
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  Speaker 3: And in fact, I took a video of the line
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  Speaker 3: that was down the street and send it to you guys,
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  Speaker 3: and a photo. Not that I was shocked, It's just
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  Speaker 3: let you see the diversity of people from gender, to
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  Speaker 3: age to everything ethnicity that were appealing to your style
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  Speaker 3: of comedy.
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  Speaker 1: What is your style of comedy, George Wallace?
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  Speaker 4: I wish, I wish I can I describe it? I
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  Speaker 4: know everybody's that your old people, young people, black people,
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  Speaker 4: white people, hip hopers and gang bangers, preachers, liars, everybody,
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  Speaker 4: because that's what I do. They you know, I appeal
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  Speaker 4: to everybody because I just have fun and I love everybody.
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  Speaker 4: And right now the new thing is young kids. I
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  Speaker 4: guess you call them Generation x Z. They're bringing their
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  Speaker 4: parents to the show because they've never seen their parents
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  Speaker 4: laugh out loud, and so when I go and promote
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  Speaker 4: the show, because they know me as mister Washing little
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  Speaker 4: things like that. But these young kids now are bringing
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  Speaker 4: their parents out to a live show to see George Wallace,
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  Speaker 4: and I have jokes for the young people. I tell
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  Speaker 4: the young people the old people don't understand them, and
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  Speaker 4: I understand them. With the hip hop music and the
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  Speaker 4: names and just how we all can get together.
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  Speaker 5: It's a blend of my appeal. That's what it is.
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  Speaker 4: I just love entertaining everybody, young, old, black and white.
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  Speaker 4: Diversity is there, and I just love talking because I
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  Speaker 4: don't really have a show. I just go up there
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  Speaker 4: and start talking.
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  Speaker 3: Well, you know, I did tell Orr about Joe Wallace me.
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  Speaker 3: George Wallers has been in my life over thirty years.
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  Speaker 3: I met George Wallace when I went up to New
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  Speaker 3: York City to be a stand up comedian and catch
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  Speaker 3: a rising star. I was just sitting at the bar
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  Speaker 3: and he asked me what're doing in there.
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  Speaker 1: I said, I'm trying to be a That's what That's how.
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  Speaker 3: That's how I was introduced to George Waller. He walked
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  Speaker 3: to me at the bar because it wasn't that many
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  Speaker 3: black people.
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  Speaker 4: I wasn't I was gonna have to say for nobody
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  Speaker 4: but me and you.
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  Speaker 3: You George said, what are you doing in here?
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  Speaker 4: Boy?
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  Speaker 3: I said, trying to be a stabish commed and we
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  Speaker 3: have been us in eighty six.
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  Speaker 1: That was eighty eight, and we have been friends every since.
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  Speaker 3: Because a lot of people need to understand that comedy
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  Speaker 3: was at one time just white comedy clubs to white
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  Speaker 3: comedy club hit George totally.
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  Speaker 4: It's almost like that it was so white that they
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  Speaker 4: didn't even want black comedians in there. To addition to hosting,
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  Speaker 4: we even put them on the show, even when you
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  Speaker 4: got to long saying was at the comedy store in
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  Speaker 4: nineteen eighty nine ninety you would never see more than
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  Speaker 4: two blacks on a shelf.
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  Speaker 5: And one time happened.
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  Speaker 4: I went on with me and Mooney and Richard Pown
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  Speaker 4: and at the time, the N word was prevalent.
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  Speaker 5: I was just on three.
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  Speaker 4: Turner row, three turn and roll. Bet you won't ever
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  Speaker 4: see that no more three those in a row.
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  Speaker 3: He's telling the truth, because that's how I met j
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  Speaker 3: Anthony the Brown by accident, because it was in Mobile,
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  Speaker 3: Alabama at the Punchline. Because they would never book two
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  Speaker 3: blacks on the same show, especially a black middle act
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  Speaker 3: and a headlining that on the same show, and it
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  Speaker 3: was that transition and what happened to the headline of canceled,
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  Speaker 3: and that's how Jay got on the show. And that's
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  Speaker 3: how I met j Anthony Brown. And it's really because
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  Speaker 3: people I have to bring up that scenario because that
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  Speaker 3: ain't that long ago that people were booking people like this.
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  Speaker 1: And what we had to deal with that. And then
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  Speaker 1: came Death Comedy Jam.
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  Speaker 5: Wow, damnastic Death coming to town.
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  Speaker 4: So the young African American kids, they went off and
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  Speaker 4: did their own thing back.
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  Speaker 5: In the day.
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  Speaker 4: The young kids, they could express themselves because at that
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  Speaker 4: time it was on the ABC, CBS and NBC.
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  Speaker 1: That's right.
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  Speaker 4: And I did tonight's show. You couldn't cuss, you couldn't
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  Speaker 4: express yourself. And then Death Jeff came and that just
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  Speaker 4: blew up. And that's thank God for Death Jam and
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  Speaker 4: the comic view and all of the things for the
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  Speaker 4: young black comedians can go out and work to young
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  Speaker 4: comedians and they worked at and they were working a
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  Speaker 4: real good Thank God for that a transition.
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  Speaker 3: But George, see here's George. See George was controlling all
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  Speaker 3: the checks, all right. He had the white folks comfortable.
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  Speaker 3: Then he came over to death Jam and made the
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  Speaker 3: black folks come. So George was playing the black folks
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  Speaker 3: and the white folks. That made you unique, George, Because
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  Speaker 3: I'm gonna tell you this, when I death Jam, because
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  Speaker 3: I played all white comedy club, they didn't.
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  Speaker 1: Think I could make black people laugh. Did you ever
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  Speaker 1: run into that?
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  Speaker 4: Oh? Because the black people that loved me, they saw
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  Speaker 4: me also in our senior they knew I could make
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  Speaker 4: him laugh, right, So that's what happened there. So I
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  Speaker 4: was transitioning there. And at the time, don't forget now
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  Speaker 4: it was only the white stations. They were so happy
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  Speaker 4: to see any black person, the different fun and jokes.
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  Speaker 4: They loved me from the white shows because they did
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  Speaker 4: watch them Tonight show. And so the black people always
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  Speaker 4: followed me from day one. And thank god, I have
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  Speaker 4: a great crowd. I'm so blessed, you know. And I
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  Speaker 4: used to be known as clean Christian comedian.
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  Speaker 5: I'm still Christian. Bla ain't clean.
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  Speaker 3: I'm about to say, as Wills went on that random
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  Speaker 3: or that ramble that were viral by.
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  Speaker 1: Will's men, that wasn't no Christian clean comedy. You did that?
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  Speaker 5: Brother, Listen to me.
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  Speaker 4: And the first person that called me was Bishop Blake,
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  Speaker 4: Bister Blake. He was the first person to call me
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  Speaker 4: and said, I said, I know I'm in trouble doing that.
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  Speaker 4: He said, man, do your thing. I laughed my butt off,
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  Speaker 4: that's what he said. And it's just like it's so good,
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  Speaker 4: you know. Uh so, But now it's time for me
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  Speaker 4: to cuss. Let me tell you something. I've been at
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  Speaker 4: Christian Committee for forty seven years and there's so many
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  Speaker 4: ways to cuss. Now you got to cuss. You got
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  Speaker 4: all of these white folks getting on my nerve. Man,
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  Speaker 4: this let me tip about the white people. I'm talking
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  Speaker 4: about George Clarence Thomas. Just let me tell you, so
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  Speaker 4: these white people are getting Curstia Walker hurt. White people
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  Speaker 4: getting on my nerve. If you understand what I'm saying,
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  Speaker 4: what's a man named West down in Florida. They're getting
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  Speaker 4: on my nerve.
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  Speaker 5: I'm getting.
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  Speaker 3: Hey, man, you're gonna get my show pulled off stream
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  Speaker 3: at the top on that. This is the fact that
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  Speaker 3: we're talking about money. I take everything back.
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  Speaker 1: Because here's the thing about you, George. This is the
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  Speaker 1: right George. I'm gonna tell you something about George Wallace.
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  Speaker 3: I've seen him first of all, he gets reverenced when
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  Speaker 3: he comes in the room.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, all comedians go.
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  Speaker 3: They just stopped talking when George Waller walking on, because
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  Speaker 3: you're walking in history and you're talking about longevity.
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  Speaker 1: And that's all we want is business is love jevity.
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  Speaker 3: And you've been able to accomplish this to because even
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  Speaker 3: when Hollywood wasn't booking him, guess what he did. He
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  Speaker 3: went to Las Vegas and full walled his own show.
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  Speaker 4: Correct, Yes, sir, I went to Las Vegas for thirty
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  Speaker 4: days and then sixty days and ninety days, and I said,
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  Speaker 4: you know what, I'm just going to create my own
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  Speaker 4: market and own the show.
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  Speaker 5: I never worked for the hotels.
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  Speaker 4: I full You can explain to them what full warlling.
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  Speaker 1: Is, which means that you're going in. You say I
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  Speaker 1: want that room.
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  Speaker 3: You rent that room, You pay for the talent to
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  Speaker 3: come in there, You paid for the lights to come on,
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  Speaker 3: you pay for the staff. Then you all the expenses
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  Speaker 3: come back, and that's your profit for the advertising.
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  Speaker 5: You go out and shake hands. You got to do
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  Speaker 5: your street walk.
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  Speaker 4: You got it all your work promoting promotions and I
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  Speaker 4: love that, you know, and I love talking to people
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  Speaker 4: and going out shaking hands, and I didn't kiss no babies,
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  Speaker 4: but I did shake hands. And I wound up there
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  Speaker 4: from thirty days and turned into fifteen years, and so
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  Speaker 4: I did it on my own.
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  Speaker 1: It was that long fifteen years.
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  Speaker 4: I did ten years at the Flamingo, in five years
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  Speaker 4: at the Westgate Wow, and I did that. I've worked
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  Speaker 4: Lost Vegas longer than any African American ever, longer than
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  Speaker 4: I've gone more shows than Red Fox seven, Davis.
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  Speaker 5: Junior, Diana Ross, Lena Horn.
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  Speaker 4: And I thank God for those names that I just
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  Speaker 4: mentioned because they paved the way for me. But I
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  Speaker 4: really love Las Vegas and I'm going to go back
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  Speaker 4: next year. I quit Las Vegas because of a pandemic
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  Speaker 4: in twenty nineteen, right, and I don't want to talk
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  Speaker 4: about that. I don't know whether I lost five friends
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  Speaker 4: during the pandemic. And right, they didn't have COVID. They
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  Speaker 4: just owe me money. And know when you get in
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  Speaker 4: the money.
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  Speaker 1: Hey, Joe, let me ask you this, brother.
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  Speaker 3: When I think about social media, okay, because you know
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  Speaker 3: you have a lot of comedians out there who are
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  Speaker 3: really popular. Has social media changed how we look at
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  Speaker 3: stand up comedians. We're looking at their social media. Uh,
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  Speaker 3: followers versus the ability to hold an audience with laughter.
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  Speaker 4: It has changed totally and I've done a little but
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  Speaker 4: not enough.
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  Speaker 5: Right now, I'm.
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  Speaker 4: Engaging into hiring a social media staff, a group to
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  Speaker 4: help me promote myself.
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  Speaker 5: I don't do enough tack. I don't see how old
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  Speaker 5: I am. I don't enough.
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  Speaker 1: You post on tick tack, I swear you won't get
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  Speaker 1: a follower.
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  Speaker 5: I can see.
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  Speaker 1: I can assure you.
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  Speaker 4: That I need a tick tack right now.
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  Speaker 5: You can smell my breath over to TV.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, sir, yes, sir, yes, sir, yes, sir, yes.
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  Speaker 4: Breath at night.
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  Speaker 3: You know that's bad, absolutely, absolutely absolutely. But you know
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  Speaker 3: the social media though. But George, but you've always been
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  Speaker 3: ahead of the curve, you know, as far as technology,
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  Speaker 3: you know, acting stand up, crossover talk shows like I said,
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  Speaker 3: we would have to say, like you mentioned our Senior
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  Speaker 3: or Hall earlier man the moment you did so Senior,
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  Speaker 3: especially when you closed out his show that time, his
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  Speaker 3: last dal show that was like legendary stand up. When
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  Speaker 3: he went out, he went on Senior Show last episode
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  Speaker 3: and put up for sale sign on everything that was
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  Speaker 3: on the show, including on Senior Hall.
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  Speaker 3: He went on Senior Whole Show last episode and put
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  Speaker 3: up for sale sign on everything that was on the show,
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  Speaker 3: including on Senior Hall.
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  Speaker 4: All this all this just for sale, dots for the
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  Speaker 5: That was really good.
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  Speaker 4: But yeah, social media has done amazing for the young
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  Speaker 4: new comedians. And I love the young comedians. I don't
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  Speaker 4: care what medium you use. If you can put in
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  Speaker 4: the seats and make some money, do it, do it,
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  Speaker 4: do it. That's what I tell the young kids. And
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  Speaker 4: they're doing a great job. Well you do it?
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  Speaker 1: How you how you promote yourself?
• 16:27
  Speaker 3: Are you promote yourself through through television interviews?
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: Radio interview, TV interview?
• 16:32
  Speaker 3: Because you was talking about you want to get more
• 16:34
  Speaker 3: involved than social media.
• 16:36
  Speaker 4: You shall take it the old way, rash And I
• 16:39
  Speaker 4: still do it the old way and now I'm doing
• 16:41
  Speaker 4: it the new way. I go in and advertise on Facebook.
• 16:44
  Speaker 4: I am advertising on TikTok and and Instagram. Now what
• 16:48
  Speaker 4: I'm not doing I'm not being on the Instagram every
• 16:50
  Speaker 4: day in TikTok. Like I said, all I do is
• 16:53
  Speaker 4: talk trash. Why don't I do it and just pick
• 16:55
  Speaker 4: up the phone and do it like the other kids do.
• 16:58
  Speaker 4: I gotta transcend and transcend and to that person because
• 17:01
  Speaker 4: it was very easy for me to do and because
• 17:03
  Speaker 4: there's a whole new market out there. Plus my old
• 17:06
  Speaker 4: market people my age, they don't use social media as much,
• 17:10
  Speaker 4: so you got to create yourself into a new market.
• 17:12
  Speaker 5: Get these young kids to come out and see you.
• 17:15
  Speaker 5: We know this.
• 17:16
  Speaker 3: We're in an interesting period now because of entertainment. You know,
• 17:19
  Speaker 3: we survived COVID and now we're in the middle of
• 17:22
  Speaker 3: a WGA SAG strike.
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: First WGA strike happening, SACKS strike happened.
• 17:26
  Speaker 3: And it's really interesting because, like you said earlier, it
• 17:29
  Speaker 3: used to be just ABC, NBC, CBS, Fox and we
• 17:32
  Speaker 3: were just happen. Then cable came along and we got
• 17:34
  Speaker 3: excited because there was a new territories whereas a stand
• 17:37
  Speaker 3: up comedian we could actually start remember the HBO specials
• 17:41
  Speaker 3: as you got an HBO special your career, sky Rodickan
• 17:45
  Speaker 3: and now say something, well, well, it's the.
• 17:48
  Speaker 4: Same thing that happened with tonight. When I did that
• 17:51
  Speaker 4: Tonight show, I did it on Thursday night and Friday night,
• 17:54
  Speaker 4: I was in front of seventeen seventeen thousand people. That's
• 17:57
  Speaker 4: what TV did back in the day. Yeah, in the day,
• 18:00
  Speaker 4: if you did the Tonight Show, you made it especially black.
• 18:04
  Speaker 4: You know, I make a lot of money back then.
• 18:06
  Speaker 4: But now these kids that make jone show, look at
• 18:08
  Speaker 4: the guy great greatest example is probably Country Wayne as
• 18:12
  Speaker 4: a commedian named Country Wayne.
• 18:14
  Speaker 5: Right all of the country.
• 18:15
  Speaker 4: All of the comedians are learning from him and doing
• 18:17
  Speaker 4: it and creating an own market. Laval Walker. Some of
• 18:22
  Speaker 4: these comedians got your own TV shows, their own media.
• 18:25
  Speaker 4: It's just great and I wish I could keep up
• 18:26
  Speaker 4: with these young kids. Let's make it perfectly clear. I
• 18:29
  Speaker 4: made a lot of money. I could retire tomorrow. I've
• 18:32
  Speaker 4: done my thing, but I'm not in it for money,
• 18:34
  Speaker 4: to be honest.
• 18:35
  Speaker 3: I just love what I do, right, And that's important
• 18:38
  Speaker 3: that you say that because of the fact that as
• 18:40
  Speaker 3: we transition to streaming now that's one of the bigger
• 18:43
  Speaker 3: complaints now that actors and.
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: Look, I'm a member of SAG. You remember of SAG.
• 18:49
  Speaker 3: I remember of writers guil so I know that, and
• 18:51
  Speaker 3: let me just help everybody educated by a little bit.
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: I started writing.
• 18:55
  Speaker 3: On TV and eighty ninety three on me and the
• 18:58
  Speaker 3: Boy Steve Harris's first show. Yes, yeah, and we used
• 19:01
  Speaker 3: to do like twenty two to twenty four episodes, and
• 19:04
  Speaker 3: so when we got a writer's job, we clap because
• 19:07
  Speaker 3: we start working June and we basically in the first
• 19:10
  Speaker 3: week of March, so basically just three months you out
• 19:13
  Speaker 3: of work. But now they aredered in eight episodes, ordering
• 19:17
  Speaker 3: ten episodes, and then in a certain situations, some production
• 19:21
  Speaker 3: companies that do two episodes a day or just run.
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: Them and just keep running them.
• 19:25
  Speaker 3: So people who will cameraman staff grips, they're losing their
• 19:32
  Speaker 3: daily wages.
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: So is that the really of the problem, George, with
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: the whole strike.
• 19:36
  Speaker 4: It's a big problem because now let's just take the
• 19:39
  Speaker 4: shows that I just I'm an executive producer, me, Norman
• 19:43
  Speaker 4: Lere and Laburne Conx. We're on a side work. We're
• 19:46
  Speaker 4: on Amazon. We get paid one time. That's why we're
• 19:50
  Speaker 4: on strike. We get paid one time in one lump something,
• 19:53
  Speaker 4: as opposed to regular TV you get residuals. So but
• 19:57
  Speaker 4: it's still showing, it's still showing a a medium ass TV,
• 20:01
  Speaker 4: but you're not getting paid any money for it.
• 20:04
  Speaker 3: So, so how do we fix that? Because you know
• 20:07
  Speaker 3: you can see you know, because let's just be real, George,
• 20:10
  Speaker 3: because I'm not trying to side with them because I
• 20:13
  Speaker 3: think they I want my residior checks.
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: I've been getting Razil checks for thirty five cents.
• 20:17
  Speaker 3: And I'm not joking when I say that, because can't
• 20:19
  Speaker 3: nobody tabulate it? Because when it ran on cable TV,
• 20:22
  Speaker 3: it got syndicated.
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: You could see it.
• 20:24
  Speaker 3: Okay, that ran there, ran there, But it's streaming. I
• 20:26
  Speaker 3: don't know who's clicking on the episode. How do you
• 20:29
  Speaker 3: track that?
• 20:30
  Speaker 4: It doesn't matter. You don't track it, but they could
• 20:31
  Speaker 4: track it if they needed to. That's that's why we're
• 20:34
  Speaker 4: on striketh. They can do anything they want to. They're
• 20:36
  Speaker 4: making money because they don't have to track the viewers.
• 20:39
  Speaker 4: They know they're getting viewers. They know the money's coming in.
• 20:41
  Speaker 4: They're getting the viewers. But in streaming source, you don't
• 20:45
  Speaker 4: have to pay for it, so that for the entertainers
• 20:47
  Speaker 4: and the writers have to go on strike to get that.
• 20:50
  Speaker 4: That's why we're out. We want to get paid because
• 20:54
  Speaker 4: they can run in and run it for a thousand years.
• 20:55
  Speaker 4: You never get nothing. Like you just said, I've gotten
• 20:58
  Speaker 4: a three cent check.
• 21:00
  Speaker 5: That's because yeah, and the stamp.
• 21:03
  Speaker 3: Is more than than the check to the check in
• 21:05
  Speaker 3: the paper and the paper, you know, George, and you know,
• 21:09
  Speaker 3: you know, we're defining something that's real serious because you
• 21:12
  Speaker 3: know Atlanta Market, they talking about billions of dollars of
• 21:16
  Speaker 3: movies that are being shot here annually that are not
• 21:18
  Speaker 3: being done right now. So that means a lot of
• 21:20
  Speaker 3: people are not working. A lot of impacted restaurants, caterers, uh,
• 21:24
  Speaker 3: people in clothing industry, chauffeurs in so many industry.
• 21:30
  Speaker 5: It trickles down.
• 21:31
  Speaker 4: What about the local restaurants out there that they're working
• 21:34
  Speaker 4: for paycheck week the week those restaurants are hurting, they're
• 21:36
  Speaker 4: going out of business out by the movie coming in
• 21:38
  Speaker 4: Atlanta and Sabavannah and all those surrounding areas and Los Angeles.
• 21:42
  Speaker 5: Also, I was very surprised this week.
• 21:44
  Speaker 4: Uh once the actor that dresses of What's Billy Porter
• 21:51
  Speaker 4: right here to sell his house tany. That's why I
• 21:55
  Speaker 4: want to teach the young people, make sure you save
• 21:58
  Speaker 4: your money and plan and manage your money right, because
• 22:01
  Speaker 4: once you get in the show Buness, you need a
• 22:03
  Speaker 4: year's salary in the bank so you can sustain sustainability.
• 22:09
  Speaker 5: I don't know.
• 22:11
  Speaker 4: Maybe he paid a lot of money for those dresses
• 22:13
  Speaker 4: he wears. I don't know what it is you need.
• 22:16
  Speaker 4: You have got to save and plan for the future.
• 22:18
  Speaker 4: You don't know when you're gonna be out. That's one
• 22:20
  Speaker 4: thing you got to do.
• 22:21
  Speaker 5: Plan and save.
• 22:22
  Speaker 4: You see the the we're talking about money now and
• 22:24
  Speaker 4: I so this is a whole different story. You see
• 22:26
  Speaker 4: the football players go out there and make twenty million
• 22:28
  Speaker 4: dollars one year, sixty million dollars a year, and next
• 22:31
  Speaker 4: thing you know, they're broke. Seventy three percent of all
• 22:33
  Speaker 4: the football players are broke after they leave the lead.
• 22:36
  Speaker 4: How do you do that? You don't do that stupid stuff.
• 22:39
  Speaker 4: Save your money. Don't go out there buying a thousand cars.
• 22:42
  Speaker 4: Take care of yourself, put your money in the bank,
• 22:44
  Speaker 4: a live like a normal person. But don't lose your money.
• 22:48
  Speaker 4: Whatever you do, do not lose your money.
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: Hey, George, stand up or acting? Which is tougher?
• 22:53
  Speaker 4: Stand up? Are you crazy? Stand up? Because all I
• 22:57
  Speaker 4: do is lie? I thank God for every day for
• 22:59
  Speaker 4: what do I have? The greatest job in the world
• 23:01
  Speaker 4: with Sean. I know you love it.
• 23:04
  Speaker 3: Joe, I asked you, which is tougher stand up or acting, and.
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: Then you said stand up. And then you just said
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: I have the greatest job. I can lie. What did
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: you misunderstand my question?
• 23:13
  Speaker 4: I lie every when I hit that stage, I lie.
• 23:15
  Speaker 4: I will tell a lot of minutes. I loved a lot,
• 23:18
  Speaker 4: because life is a lot. If you're not lying, you're
• 23:21
  Speaker 4: not living. Let's make that perfect your clear. Everything you
• 23:24
  Speaker 4: do in life you present every day. Somebody lied to you.
• 23:27
  Speaker 4: Every day you go to the Chinese restaurant a fortune cooking.
• 23:30
  Speaker 4: Here's a guy in the back of the kitchen thirty
• 23:33
  Speaker 4: three hundred years ago for the rag around and says
• 23:35
  Speaker 4: swetness soft making fortune cookies, and he knows what the
• 23:39
  Speaker 4: lucky numbers are. Everything is a lot. I don't care
• 23:42
  Speaker 4: where you go. It's all a lot. These new mattresses
• 23:45
  Speaker 4: on TV come in a box. They said, you don't
• 23:47
  Speaker 4: like it, you can send it back. You try to
• 23:49
  Speaker 4: put the mattress back in the box. One of Day
• 23:52
  Speaker 4: Vitamins is a live. One of Day Vitamins says take
• 23:55
  Speaker 4: one to day. Read your direction says take two. Everything
• 23:58
  Speaker 4: is a lot. I don't care what you do. You
• 24:00
  Speaker 4: go to church, the preacher say, I won't be long.
• 24:02
  Speaker 4: Everybody a lot of you. I don't give what it is.
• 24:05
  Speaker 4: It's a cheesecake factory. That ain't no that's a restaurant.
• 24:09
  Speaker 5: And technically it ain't no cake.
• 24:10
  Speaker 4: It's a pie and technically there's more sugar in it
• 24:14
  Speaker 4: down there. It's cheese. So the ship called the Sugar
• 24:16
  Speaker 4: Pie everything. The last time you bought.
• 24:18
  Speaker 5: A coat from the Brothers and coat battery, that's a lie.
• 24:22
  Speaker 3: Oh my god, Hey, George, your book Bullet Twitt and whatnot?
• 24:27
  Speaker 3: It was I got the fairy first one, by the way,
• 24:30
  Speaker 3: one of my all time favorite books. Every time I
• 24:32
  Speaker 3: bring you up, you said, hey, I got more that book.
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: If you haven't bought that book, is it's still available
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: on Amazon?
• 24:40
  Speaker 3: Correct, Joe, Yes, it is, okay, and you can also.
• 24:43
  Speaker 5: Get an on my network on my website.
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: George Wallers, was it George Wallers doting that? And you
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: can get that more Twitt and whatnot.
• 24:52
  Speaker 4: Y'all make more money if you buy it direct from
• 24:54
  Speaker 4: make nothing from Amazon. Let's be honest with this.
• 24:57
  Speaker 5: Okay.
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: Cool?
• 24:58
  Speaker 3: Now, as an author, that's a whole new you know,
• 25:01
  Speaker 3: because everything's about time and you know that George, that's
• 25:05
  Speaker 3: a stand up comedian and so what you can say
• 25:07
  Speaker 3: on stage.
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: Because you're so.
• 25:09
  Speaker 3: Gifted, you could twist that word and make good morning funny,
• 25:12
  Speaker 3: make good morning funny.
• 25:14
  Speaker 5: Well I'm cussing on regular television.
• 25:16
  Speaker 3: Now, well, let's talk about this the book that's really funny.
• 25:22
  Speaker 3: How did you trust yourself that you could write something
• 25:25
  Speaker 3: down and people will still translate to humor that you
• 25:29
  Speaker 3: were expecting them to receive.
• 25:33
  Speaker 4: Because it's the way I said, my christ and allows
• 25:38
  Speaker 4: me to doing it.
• 25:39
  Speaker 5: My personality allows me.
• 25:40
  Speaker 4: To talk about blind people, allows me to talking about
• 25:42
  Speaker 4: I don't do a PC show, allows me to cuss.
• 25:45
  Speaker 4: I would take I would start talking about the rappers
• 25:47
  Speaker 4: like Walking Flock and Flame. Right, and now I'm cussing
• 25:51
  Speaker 4: in the book books what I'm talking about that? And
• 25:53
  Speaker 4: now I can cuss just saying walking flock instead of
• 25:57
  Speaker 4: the other word.
• 25:59
  Speaker 5: Like I said, there, my preacher walked up in.
• 26:01
  Speaker 4: The pool pits. Last time, I said, look at this
• 26:03
  Speaker 4: Walker Flocker walking up in here. So that's my customer.
• 26:06
  Speaker 4: Now Walker Flocker and I get the same results. I
• 26:10
  Speaker 4: get the same results with walker Plocker.
• 26:12
  Speaker 3: No, I always so I text you the other day
• 26:16
  Speaker 3: George Waller should have a documentary.
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: When is that gonna happen.
• 26:21
  Speaker 4: Well, we got to put that together because you know
• 26:23
  Speaker 4: you're not the first person to say it. Norman Live
• 26:26
  Speaker 4: is trying to do it. You want to do it,
• 26:27
  Speaker 4: everybody want to do but I've got you do it.
• 26:30
  Speaker 4: I have to put it together with you and somebody
• 26:32
  Speaker 4: because you don't make better than than Norman does.
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 26:35
  Speaker 3: Well, you know the thing about it, That's what happened
• 26:36
  Speaker 3: with Prime Time when he did that special where he
• 26:39
  Speaker 3: played football and baseball in the same day. You know,
• 26:43
  Speaker 3: he had to get with the right people that could
• 26:45
  Speaker 3: understand the vision. Because everybody wants to do it. Everybody
• 26:48
  Speaker 3: wants to do it. But but you know, in me,
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: I have a special relationship with you because I always
• 26:53
  Speaker 3: go back how you impacted me, and I've seen the journey.
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: You saw me in the hospital.
• 26:56
  Speaker 3: I'm gonn tell you something, y'all when I was near
• 26:59
  Speaker 3: death or nineteen nine, this man, I don't know how
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: he knew I was in the hospital came visited me
• 27:04
  Speaker 3: in the hospital, and to this day, I always felt
• 27:07
  Speaker 3: I was one of the great special moments because in
• 27:10
  Speaker 3: eighteen eighty you were pretty famous.
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: George Wallace, Well.
• 27:13
  Speaker 4: You are such a good person. You know, you have
• 27:16
  Speaker 4: to be give.
• 27:16
  Speaker 5: What goes around comes around.
• 27:17
  Speaker 4: What do they say about that?
• 27:19
  Speaker 5: You have got to be nice for me to have come.
• 27:21
  Speaker 4: I don't know where I was, but you were in
• 27:23
  Speaker 4: the hospital in Los Angeles, baby Houston, wherever you were.
• 27:26
  Speaker 5: But I said, I got go see this guy.
• 27:27
  Speaker 4: This is a nice guy and I and it was
• 27:29
  Speaker 4: only what three of us black people in the business
• 27:31
  Speaker 4: back then.
• 27:32
  Speaker 5: Yeah, come on it.
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: What do you see with the future of comed with AI?
• 27:37
  Speaker 3: Do you think AI will impact stand up comedy?
• 27:40
  Speaker 4: No matter what, the funny people will always rise to
• 27:43
  Speaker 4: the top. The cream will rise at the top. No
• 27:45
  Speaker 4: matter what they said television, they said, they said hip
• 27:48
  Speaker 4: hop was'm gonna last?
• 27:50
  Speaker 5: Where is it now?
• 27:51
  Speaker 4: Fifteen year comedy you always got to laugh because when
• 27:54
  Speaker 4: you stopped laughing, you stopped living. So comedians were the
• 27:57
  Speaker 4: funny people will always be there. AI.
• 28:00
  Speaker 5: I can't do nothing without us.
• 28:02
  Speaker 4: They can correlate it, put it together, whatever, but they
• 28:06
  Speaker 4: cannot do it without us. And the comedians are always
• 28:09
  Speaker 4: going to be number one. That's why it's the hardest
• 28:11
  Speaker 4: arc form today.
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen.
• 28:14
  Speaker 3: He always said, I'm probably do anything yet laughter is
• 28:20
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• 28:31
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