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FBI To Re-Open Investigations on Cocaine in the White House, J6 Pipe Bomber & SCOTUS Leak, plus Comey Advocates Murder of Trump · The Ben Ferguson Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Good Wednesday morning. Nice to have you with us.
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  Speaker 2: It's verdict with Senator Ted Cruz, Ben Ferguson with you
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  Speaker 2: and Senator We're gonna get some redows on some cover
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  Speaker 2: ups on the Democratic Party. Apparently this is gonna be
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  Speaker 2: music to many people's ears on accountability.
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  Speaker 3: Well, the FBI has announced three brand new investigations on
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  Speaker 3: stories that just broke, things that just happened yesterday. So,
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  Speaker 3: just yesterday, cocaine was found in the White House. Just yesterday,
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  Speaker 3: there was a secret leak from the Supreme Court of
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  Speaker 3: a decision the court had not yet issued. It was
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  Speaker 3: a decision overturning Roe versus Weight. It was shocking, it
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  Speaker 3: was incredible, and I'll tell you the FBI was on it.
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  Speaker 3: And just yesterday, unbelievably, a pipe bomb was planted outside
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  Speaker 3: the DNC. It was on the day of the certification
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  Speaker 3: of what ended up being the certification of Joe Biden's presidency.
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  Speaker 3: And all three of these, understandably when they occur, they
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  Speaker 3: were major news stories, horrific crimes, grotesque violation of laws.
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  Speaker 3: So of course the FBI devoted all of the resources
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  Speaker 3: to discover nothing. Well, we have a new FBI, We
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  Speaker 3: have a new DJ, And now the FBI and DJ
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  Speaker 3: is going back to do what they should have done
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  Speaker 3: years ago when these stories actually happen. They're going to
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  Speaker 3: go investigate and I hope they're gonna find find that
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  Speaker 3: the wrong doers, find the criminals, prosecute them, and put
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  Speaker 3: them in jail. Also, we're going to look into recent
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  Speaker 3: comments and actions by the former head of the FBI,
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  Speaker 3: that crack law enforcement official who managed not to investigate, uh,
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  Speaker 3: those crimes. We just talked about James Comy, who who
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  Speaker 3: spent the entire Trump presidenc here much of the Trump presidency,
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  Speaker 3: undermining the President of the United States, attacking the President
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  Speaker 3: of the United States until finally he was rightly fired.
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  Speaker 3: He's made some comments that are that are nothing short
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  Speaker 3: of shocking. Uh and and and he is effectively called
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  Speaker 3: for the assassination of the President of the United States.
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  Speaker 3: You might think that as hyperbole, but we're going to
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  Speaker 3: break down exactly what James Comey did. And and finally,
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  Speaker 3: we're going to talk about a lawsuit that NPR has filed. NPR,
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  Speaker 3: National Public Radio, has filed a lawsuit saying that President
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  Speaker 3: Trump trying to cut off taxpayer funding for their wildly partisan, biased,
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  Speaker 3: dishonest reporting. Well, their allegation is that not paying for
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  Speaker 3: that wildly dishonest partisan reporting violates the First Amendment to
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  Speaker 3: the Constitution, that the First Amendment mandates that you and
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  Speaker 3: I and all of us pay for NPR's lying. We're
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  Speaker 3: going to explain that the the absolute nonsense of that lawsuit,
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  Speaker 3: and and we're going to we're going to get into
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  Speaker 3: the details right now.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's really an incredible story.
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  Speaker 2: eight if CJ. All right, so center, let's talk about
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  Speaker 2: And you had some humor there in the in the
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  Speaker 2: lead up to this topic, because it is insane that
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  Speaker 2: we had these three massive investigations that got us no information.
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  Speaker 1: Everybody just moved on.
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  Speaker 2: In the last administration and the opening up of these investigations.
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  Speaker 1: Yet again by the FBI.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think this should be looked at is a
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  Speaker 2: issue of like revenge. It's an issue of just is
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  Speaker 2: it clearly didn't happen and was covered up in the past.
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  Speaker 3: Well understand that when you're dealing with the politicization and
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  Speaker 3: weaponization of the Department of Justice and the FBI and
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  Speaker 3: the law enforcement apparatus, there are two components of it.
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  Speaker 3: One component of it is using it as a weapon
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  Speaker 3: to attack your political opponents. We saw Joe Biden the
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  Speaker 3: Democrats do that over and over and over again, most
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  Speaker 3: notably when they indicted Donald Trump, not once, not twice,
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  Speaker 3: not three times, four separate times. That was a clear
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  Speaker 3: illustration of weaponization. It was designed ultimately to fight democracy.
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  Speaker 3: It was designed because they were terrified the voters would
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  Speaker 3: do what in fact they did in November re elect
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  Speaker 3: Donald J.
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  Speaker 4: Trump as President of the United States.
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  Speaker 3: But there's another aspect of weaponization, and that is refusing
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  Speaker 3: to investigate crime, refusing to enforce the law against your
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  Speaker 3: friends and political allies, and we saw the Biden Department
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  Speaker 3: of Justice, the Biden FBI do that over and over
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  Speaker 3: and over again. And these three cases are among the
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  Speaker 3: most egregious. You know you're and my friend Dan Bongino. So,
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  Speaker 3: Dan Bongino is now the Deputy Director of the FBI.
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  Speaker 3: Cash Fortells, the Director of the FBI. Dan tweeted out
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  Speaker 3: this week the following a few updates, the Director and
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  Speaker 3: I have most of our incoming reform teams in place
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  Speaker 3: by next week. The hiring process can take a little
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  Speaker 3: bit of time, but we are approaching that finish line.
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  Speaker 3: This will help us both in doubling down on our
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  Speaker 3: reform agenda. Shortly after swearing in, the Director and I
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  Speaker 3: evaluated a number of cases of potential public corruption that
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  Speaker 3: understandably have garnered public interest. We made the decision to
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  Speaker 3: either reopen or push additional resources and investigative attention to
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  Speaker 3: these cases. These cases are number one, the DC pipe
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  Speaker 3: bombing investigation, Number two the cocaine discovery at the prior
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  Speaker 3: administration's White House, and number three the leak of the
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  Speaker 3: Supreme Court Stops case. I receive requested briefings on these
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  Speaker 3: cases weekly and we are making progress if you have
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  Speaker 3: any investigative tips on these matters that may assist us,
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  Speaker 3: then please contact the FBI. That is really significant, and
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  Speaker 3: and and and by the way, I'm I'm gonna add
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  Speaker 3: a fourth one that is not in this tweet, but
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  Speaker 3: it is something that both Cash Battel and Don Bongino
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  Speaker 3: and also Pambondi have committed to, which is transparency regarding
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  Speaker 3: Jeffrey Epstein. And I will say that Jeffrey Epstein sex
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  Speaker 3: trafficking case was grotesque. I think the American people need
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  Speaker 3: to know every name in that little black book. I
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  Speaker 3: think they need to know the clients. I think they
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  Speaker 3: need to know everyone who participated uh in in in
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  Speaker 3: the child sex trafficking. And I do believe I've had
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  Speaker 3: multiple conversations with Pambondi, with Cash Patel, with Dan Bongino
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  Speaker 3: about it. I do believe we will see transparency. I
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  Speaker 3: know a lot of people are frustrated that we haven't
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  Speaker 3: seen all that information yet. My understanding from those conference
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  Speaker 3: conversations is on Epstein, there is a vast trove of information,
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  Speaker 3: much of which implicates miners. And what I've been told
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  Speaker 3: is that is they are working to put it in
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  Speaker 3: a format where it can be released where you don't.
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  Speaker 3: Where you don't release, say, video of a miner being
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  Speaker 3: sexually assaulted, which would obviously be inappropriate for protecting that child,
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  Speaker 3: a little boy or girl should not have that image
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  Speaker 3: released by the government for the world. But at the
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  Speaker 3: same time, the assaulter, the criminal, his image should be released.
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  Speaker 3: And I have every expectation we will see transparency on
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  Speaker 3: that front, and I will continue asking both of the
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  Speaker 3: Department of Justice and FBI to provide transparency and pressing
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  Speaker 3: them to do so as fast as possible. But on
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  Speaker 3: these three cases as well. Look, let's take him one
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  Speaker 3: at a time. Cocaine in the West wing of the
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  Speaker 3: White House? All right, Ben, you worked in the West Wing.
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  Speaker 3: Tell me how big a deal would it be when
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  Speaker 3: you worked to the George W. Bush White House. Can
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  Speaker 3: you imagine the reaction if cocaine were found in that
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  Speaker 3: White House?
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  Speaker 2: No, And it would have been a wall to wall story,
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  Speaker 2: and it would have been twenty four to seven, and
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  Speaker 2: the media would have dug and dug and dug and
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  Speaker 2: demanded answers, and they would not have let up until
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  Speaker 2: they had a name or someone who had been fired
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  Speaker 2: or dismissed, and they would have also been I think
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  Speaker 2: tmz'ed it where they would have said, how many people
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  Speaker 2: are high at the White House, how many people are
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  Speaker 2: around the Situation Room, which, by the way, this cocaine
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  Speaker 2: was not far from the stories would have exploded to
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  Speaker 2: hurt Ben Jordan's bush.
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  Speaker 3: Ben, explain to people where this work, where this was,
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  Speaker 3: because you said it wasn't far from the situation room,
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  Speaker 3: You're right, But get people a sense of the layout
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  Speaker 3: of the West Wing and where's.
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  Speaker 4: Thatchly this was.
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  Speaker 2: If you walk in the West Wing from basically the
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  Speaker 2: EEO be the Old Executive or the Eisenhower Building, there's
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  Speaker 2: kind of a breezeway and when you walk in there.
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  Speaker 3: For you, I want to stop you for a second.
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  Speaker 3: There is an interesting divide in Washington, and you can
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  Speaker 3: tell how long someone has been in Washington by what
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  Speaker 3: acronym you use, and you actually just use both of them.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, so there's a bill ridging the gap there, did you?
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  Speaker 4: I did?
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  Speaker 3: But I want to explain it to our listeners because
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  Speaker 3: this is this is a very insidery little thing, but
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  Speaker 3: it is kind of funny and it's real. So there's
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  Speaker 3: a giant building right next to the White House, that
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  Speaker 3: is the Executive Office Building, And a lot of the
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  Speaker 3: offices that are said to be quote in the White
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  Speaker 3: House are actually in that building. That building is much
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  Speaker 3: bigger than the White House and is part of the
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  Speaker 3: White House campus. So when you enter the White House grounds,
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  Speaker 3: if you're walking up Executive Avenue, on the right is
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  Speaker 3: the West Wing. On the left, it is the Executive
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  Speaker 3: Office Building. Now, the folks who have been in DC
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  Speaker 3: a long time, they call that the OEO B.
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  Speaker 4: Why is that?
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  Speaker 3: That stands for the Old Executive Office Building.
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  Speaker 4: So the O is OEO B.
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  Speaker 3: And at some point, and I don't know what year,
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  Speaker 3: actually maybe when we're talking you can google it and
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  Speaker 3: give us the answer, Bend. But at some point they
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  Speaker 3: renamed the building the Eisenhower Executive Office Building. They put
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  Speaker 3: up a sign that says Eisenhower Executive Office Building. And
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  Speaker 3: so now it's called EO B. And you can tell
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  Speaker 3: people who I would say, have been to d C
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  Speaker 3: in the last decade or two they call it the
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  Speaker 3: EO B and old farts. And you're actually young enough,
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  Speaker 3: you're not fully an old fart exactly.
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  Speaker 2: I'm gonna take pride in that, by the way, and
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  Speaker 2: by the way, I can tell you when they changed
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  Speaker 2: the name.
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  Speaker 1: Are you ready for this?
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  Speaker 3: I heard you typing when I said use the Google.
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  Speaker 3: You click clacked on your keyboard, so I knew you
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  Speaker 3: had an answer.
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  Speaker 4: Yes.
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  Speaker 2: President Bill Clinton approved legislation changing the name on November
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  Speaker 2: the ninth of nineteen ninety nine from the old Executive
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  Speaker 2: Office Building, too, was renamed the Dwight D. Eisenhower Executive
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  Speaker 2: Office Building. So there you go, ninety nine, November ninth.
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  Speaker 3: So that's just a quick aside, and you can really
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  Speaker 3: tell someone's So.
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  Speaker 4: Look, I came to d C.
• 11:44
  Speaker 3: I was a law clerk in d C in nineteen
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  Speaker 3: ninety five to ninety six, and then I was a
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  Speaker 3: law clerk at the Supreme Court in ninety six to
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  Speaker 3: ninety seven. And so when I first moved there, it
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  Speaker 3: was called the OEO B. So I'm just barely on
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  Speaker 3: the old old fart line of it. You said it
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  Speaker 3: was renamed in nineteen ninety nine, so you're very much
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  Speaker 3: on the young fart nine line of it.
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  Speaker 4: And yet I like that you use them both.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's a it's a cool building. And you
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  Speaker 2: can also all we always we always used to laugh
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  Speaker 2: because you can always tell who was full of it,
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  Speaker 2: and who was lying if they said they worked in
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  Speaker 2: the White House and then they actually worked in the EOB.
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  Speaker 1: I called on a second like, wait, wait are they are?
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  Speaker 2: They are they flexing saying that they work in the
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  Speaker 2: West Wing when they really don't because ninety nine percent
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  Speaker 2: of the staff does not work in the actual White House.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, say works EO B.
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  Speaker 3: And so the White House itself, you've got a lot
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  Speaker 3: of the White House that's like a museum and that
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  Speaker 3: has beautiful rooms and you have tours going through it,
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  Speaker 3: and it's it's it's a quasi public area. You've got
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  Speaker 3: the residence, which is upstairs and that's where the president
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  Speaker 3: of the First Family lives. And then you have the
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  Speaker 3: West Wing, which is where the senior offices working for
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  Speaker 3: the president are. And the West Wing is not very big.
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  Speaker 3: It's no, it's tiny. It's three stories. You've got a basement,
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  Speaker 3: you've got a first floor and second floor. The offices
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  Speaker 3: are not very big. Actually, the OEO B offices are
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  Speaker 3: much bigger than the West Wing offices. But in the
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  Speaker 3: White House, power and prestige is measured by one thing,
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  Speaker 3: and that is proximity to the president. Proximity to the
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  Speaker 3: Oval Office, and so a tiny little closet next to
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  Speaker 3: the Oval is much more prestigious than a huge, grand office.
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  Speaker 3: All right, I'll tell you something funny, Ben. So you
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  Speaker 3: know the little office off the West wing where Bill
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  Speaker 3: Clinton did not have sexual relations with Monica Lewinsky. Yes,
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  Speaker 3: And by the way, for those of you be all
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  Speaker 3: too young to remember Bill Clinton, when he was accused
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  Speaker 3: of having oral sex with an intern, Monica Lewinsky, he
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  Speaker 3: said to press conference, I did not have sexual relations
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  Speaker 3: with that woman, miss Lewinsky. That was turned out to
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  Speaker 3: be a flat out lie because he did. There's a
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  Speaker 3: little room off the West wing where those interactions occurred.
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  Speaker 3: Do you know what Donald Trump has turned it into.
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  Speaker 1: So I know this, it's a night and a half.
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  Speaker 1: It's the trinket room.
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  Speaker 2: Now. If he likes you and he says, come over here,
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  Speaker 2: you can get you some swag from the Oval Office.
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  Speaker 3: Like he's got maga hats in there, he's got presidential
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  Speaker 3: cuff links, he's got all sorts of it. He just
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  Speaker 3: goes and says, take whatever you like, and there's just
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  Speaker 3: like a bunch of stuff and it's really cool. So
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  Speaker 3: so he's got he doesn't have those in the swag room.
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  Speaker 3: But but but he also has Have you seen Trump's
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  Speaker 3: challenge coins?
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  Speaker 1: They're incredible.
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  Speaker 2: You So when you went into the Oval recently, you
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  Speaker 2: you got a couple coming back and I got to
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  Speaker 2: see him.
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  Speaker 1: They're amazing and they're huge.
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  Speaker 3: So, so a challenge coin, for those of y'all who
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  Speaker 3: are not familiar, a challenge coin is a tradition both
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  Speaker 3: in the military and in law enforcement. And so when
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  Speaker 3: you when you meet with with typically senior officers of
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  Speaker 3: the military, they'll have a challenge coin that that that
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  Speaker 3: that that is branded with their unit, with their battalion,
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  Speaker 3: and and they'll give it to you. And there's a
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  Speaker 3: whole culture of like having to present your challenge coin
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  Speaker 3: and if you don't have it, having to buy drinks.
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  Speaker 3: And so in my office, I have a whole display
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  Speaker 3: behind my desk of probably one hundred and fifty challenge
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  Speaker 3: coins that have been given to me by military leaders
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  Speaker 3: across the country, across the world. That's behind my desk,
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  Speaker 3: and then in front of my desk on the other
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  Speaker 3: end of the office is a display with challenge coins
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  Speaker 3: from law enforcement. And so it's a similar thing police officers, sheriffs,
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  Speaker 3: police chiefs, firefighters federal law enforcement will have challenge coins
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  Speaker 3: and they give them and usually they're about the size
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  Speaker 3: of a silver dollar and they're elaborate. Well, Trump has
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  Speaker 3: made these presidential challenge coins that are about the size
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  Speaker 3: somewhere between the size that the diameter of a baseball
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  Speaker 3: and a softball. I think they're a little bigger than
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  Speaker 3: a baseball, but not quite as big as a softball.
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  Speaker 4: And they're gorgeous.
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  Speaker 3: And of course Trump's challenge coin is bigger, because how
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  Speaker 3: would it be otherwise.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, of course.
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  Speaker 2: And that's the part about I do say, people that
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  Speaker 2: go to the Oval office and get to meet with him,
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  Speaker 2: you have no idea what you're gonna leave with, including
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  Speaker 2: I will say his cup links. I got a pair
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  Speaker 2: in the first in the forty five years. You got
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  Speaker 2: the new pair from forty seven. I'm very jealous because
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  Speaker 2: they are absolutely beautiful.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: So, anyway, where the cocaine was found is right as
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  Speaker 3: you walk into the entrance of the West Wing. By
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  Speaker 3: the way, that entrance is where Trump now parks his
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  Speaker 3: brand new Tesla. It's literally parked right up front. So
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  Speaker 3: I tweeted out a picture. It's because I've never seen
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  Speaker 3: a car of the president. Like when you become president,
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  Speaker 3: they take your car keys and they don't let you drive,
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  Speaker 3: and you're driven around in the beast. And so his
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  Speaker 3: cars parked right up front. Now, actually they don't let
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  Speaker 3: Trump drive either, so he doesn't get to drive his tesla.
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  Speaker 3: And so I'm told a staffer about once a week
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  Speaker 3: has to drive the tesla like several times around the block.
• 16:42
  Speaker 3: So it just so it doesn't die entirely.
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: That's not a bad job, by the way, if you
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: get that job.
• 16:48
  Speaker 2: But as you mentioned, you walk in that entrance there
• 16:51
  Speaker 2: and where they found the cocaine. It is probably I
• 16:56
  Speaker 2: don't know, thirty to forty feet away from the door
• 17:00
  Speaker 2: to the situation room. Because when you walk in the
• 17:02
  Speaker 2: west wing, your lockers are to the left where you
• 17:05
  Speaker 2: put your phones up. Traditionally that's where they found this
• 17:08
  Speaker 2: cocaine was over in that area. You go straight for
• 17:11
  Speaker 2: ten twelve feet, you go to your right, and then
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: right down there is a little area we can get
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: food and turn to drink, and immediately to your right
• 17:20
  Speaker 2: is where you walk in to the situation room. I
• 17:24
  Speaker 2: gets right there. Like the idea that cocaine was found
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: in the White House, it should have been like hell
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: to pay, and no one stopped reporting on the story
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: until somebody was arrested.
• 17:36
  Speaker 3: So look, I am very glad the FBI is going
• 17:39
  Speaker 3: to investigate that. You take in another case, January sixth,
• 17:44
  Speaker 3: the Biden Justice Department spent thousands and thousands of man hour,
• 17:49
  Speaker 3: spent enormous money investigating every little old lady on the
• 17:53
  Speaker 3: mall waving a flag singing God bless America. They treated
• 17:57
  Speaker 3: those poor little old ladies like they were Osama bin
• 17:59
  Speaker 3: lad and the actual terrorist who plants a pipe bomb
• 18:05
  Speaker 3: outside the DMC. Look, if you plant a pipe bomb
• 18:08
  Speaker 3: that can blow up people and murder people, there's a
• 18:10
  Speaker 3: word for that. You are a terrorist if you're planning
• 18:12
  Speaker 3: a pipe bomb. There is video of this dude planning
• 18:16
  Speaker 3: the pipe bomb. And yet we've had four plus years
• 18:22
  Speaker 3: transpire and we know nothing about the actual terrorist who
• 18:26
  Speaker 3: planted a pipe bomb that could have killed multiple people.
• 18:29
  Speaker 3: It was actually it was found before it exploded, thank god,
• 18:33
  Speaker 3: but it could have been. It could have resulted a
• 18:35
  Speaker 3: serious loss of life if it hadn't. I'm very glad
• 18:37
  Speaker 3: that they're finally investigating that.
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: And then.
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: An action PAUSO would ask your gut on this one.
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: Why was it not investigating.
• 18:46
  Speaker 3: I don't know. I really look. There's conspiracy theories online.
• 18:53
  Speaker 3: Some of them have to do with FBI informants under
• 18:57
  Speaker 3: cover agents in the crowd on January sixth. As you know,
• 19:02
  Speaker 3: I've questioned the FBI and the Department of Justice multiple
• 19:05
  Speaker 3: times about the informants they had underground. They refused to
• 19:08
  Speaker 3: make that public. I'll tell you. I also have urged
• 19:10
  Speaker 3: Pambondi and Cash Betel to make that public.
• 19:12
  Speaker 4: I hope that.
• 19:13
  Speaker 3: They do, that they engage in radical transparency.
• 19:17
  Speaker 4: I don't know.
• 19:18
  Speaker 3: I find it weird because it is the action on
• 19:22
  Speaker 3: that day that could have resulted in the greatest loss
• 19:25
  Speaker 3: of life had the pipe bomb detonated. I mean, it's
• 19:28
  Speaker 3: on a busy public street where people are walking by
• 19:30
  Speaker 3: every minute. It could have killed multiple people, and we
• 19:35
  Speaker 3: don't know, and so all sorts of people, I mean,
• 19:38
  Speaker 3: the Twitter and the Internet speculates like crazy. I'm not
• 19:42
  Speaker 3: interested in speculation. I would like to find out who
• 19:46
  Speaker 3: actually planted it, why, and I'd like them to go
• 19:48
  Speaker 3: to jail. And I hope listen. I'm encouraged by Dan
• 19:52
  Speaker 3: Bongino's post on X that we are making progress. I
• 19:57
  Speaker 3: hope that we can find out who did it. We
• 20:00
  Speaker 3: will say of the three, ironically, the one that is
• 20:05
  Speaker 3: the most consequential, I think is the third one, which
• 20:09
  Speaker 3: is the leak of the Supreme Court's Dobs case.
• 20:12
  Speaker 4: And it is hard to.
• 20:14
  Speaker 3: Overstate how much damage that leak did, not just to
• 20:18
  Speaker 3: the Supreme Court of the United States.
• 20:20
  Speaker 4: But but also to the rule of law.
• 20:23
  Speaker 3: The way the Supreme Court operates, Justices deliberate on cases,
• 20:27
  Speaker 3: They circulate opinion drafts back and forth. They change opinion drafts.
• 20:32
  Speaker 3: A given opinion, particularly in a consequential opinion, can change
• 20:35
  Speaker 3: one hundred times or more. They're literally negotiating every sentence
• 20:39
  Speaker 3: over every footnote.
• 20:41
  Speaker 4: And in two.
• 20:42
  Speaker 3: Hundred and nearly fifty years of our nation's history, never
• 20:47
  Speaker 3: once has a draft of an opinion of the Supreme
• 20:51
  Speaker 3: Court been leaked until the Dobs case. And it did
• 20:55
  Speaker 3: I think, irreparable damage to the trust between the justices,
• 21:00
  Speaker 3: the ability of the justices to have candor with each other,
• 21:04
  Speaker 3: and the person who leaked it. At the end of
• 21:06
  Speaker 3: the day, it is a really small universe of people
• 21:10
  Speaker 3: who would have access to that draft opinion. It is
• 21:12
  Speaker 3: essentially the justices, and I refuse to believe a justice
• 21:16
  Speaker 3: did that unless you had irrefutable proof. I have too
• 21:21
  Speaker 3: much faith in the institutions of our country to believe
• 21:25
  Speaker 3: a justice did it. I believe it was very likely
• 21:28
  Speaker 3: a law clerk at a law clerk from one of
• 21:30
  Speaker 3: the liberal justices. But look, there are only thirty six
• 21:34
  Speaker 3: law clerks. There are not that many, and I am confident,
• 21:37
  Speaker 3: having been one of them myself, these people are not
• 21:40
  Speaker 3: master criminals. They are not incredibly adept at hiding their tracks,
• 21:44
  Speaker 3: and so I think we did not get a thorough
• 21:47
  Speaker 3: investigation into it. And of the three, if I could
• 21:51
  Speaker 3: pick one to be solved, it would be finding the
• 21:55
  Speaker 3: leaker of the Dobs opinion, prosecuting him or her and
• 21:59
  Speaker 3: locking them up, because I think that did lasting damage
• 22:03
  Speaker 3: to the rule of law in this country.
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: This is again goes back to the basic issue of
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: law and order, and this is something that this administration
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: keeps saying over and over again, like they're not joking.
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: They're going to treat everyone the same, and we're going
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: to look at things through the glasses of law and
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: order instead of picking winners and losers based on politics.
• 22:26
  Speaker 3: Well, yes, and that is unless the head of the
• 22:29
  Speaker 3: FBI is calling for the murder of the president of
• 22:32
  Speaker 3: the United States, And that is another story that broke
• 22:35
  Speaker 3: in the last few days. So the former FBI director
• 22:38
  Speaker 3: James Comy, he tweeted out this this image, and it
• 22:43
  Speaker 3: is an image of seashells on the beach that spell
• 22:47
  Speaker 3: out eighty six forty seven. Now forty seven is obviously
• 22:52
  Speaker 3: Donald Trump, and eighty six on the face of it,
• 22:57
  Speaker 3: to eighty six someone is standard slang for killing someone.
• 23:00
  Speaker 3: And as I posted on social media, is there any
• 23:03
  Speaker 3: other reasonable interpretation of this other than the former head
• 23:08
  Speaker 3: of the FBI publicly calling for the murder of the
• 23:13
  Speaker 3: president of the United States, and Comy backed away from it.
• 23:16
  Speaker 3: I got to say, part of the reason I think
• 23:18
  Speaker 3: he put it out is he's got a new book
• 23:19
  Speaker 3: coming out and he wanted some attention. But it is
• 23:24
  Speaker 3: unimaginable that a head of the FBI would be particularly
• 23:31
  Speaker 3: a president who has had two assassination attempts. This is
• 23:34
  Speaker 3: not theoretical. Donald Trump was shot. He came within a
• 23:38
  Speaker 3: half inch of being killed in Butler, Pennsylvania, and yet
• 23:44
  Speaker 3: the head of the FBI is openly calling for people
• 23:48
  Speaker 3: to eighty six Donald Trump.
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: Well, and not only as you mentioned, is it a
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: dog whistle, but also, yeah, he had a book coming out.
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: He's like, hey, if I do this, and maybe they're
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: just narcissm and arrogance to a level that even I
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: didn't realize with him, and I thought it was pretty
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: high where he's like, I'm i'm, I'm, I'm so powerful,
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: I can get away with this, and then everybody will
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: want to interview me. I get to dog whistle this
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: against the president while also guaranteeing that every single show
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: will want to book me to talk about my book
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: a KA and also the seashells.
• 24:23
  Speaker 4: On the beach.
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: It was one hell of a move and and I
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: think it's one where he thought nothing's going to happen
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: to me, even if I do get interviewed by the
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: Secret Service, who cares well?
• 24:33
  Speaker 3: And I will say he doubled down this week. Uh,
• 24:36
  Speaker 3: but by calling on the FBI essentially to fight the
• 24:40
  Speaker 3: President of the United States, and and and and and
• 24:43
  Speaker 3: accusing the Trump administration of being, in his words, quite
• 24:49
  Speaker 3: white supremacists adjacent.
• 24:51
  Speaker 4: Listen to this, So follow.
• 24:53
  Speaker 5: Up on the seashell situation when explaining why you took
• 24:58
  Speaker 5: it down, But what will you trying to communicate to
• 25:01
  Speaker 5: the public impete Trump. What was your reasoning for it?
• 25:06
  Speaker 6: No, I just thought it was a cool picture. Someone
• 25:09
  Speaker 6: was expressing a political view in a very clever way
• 25:12
  Speaker 6: in shells that were organized by the like they had
• 25:14
  Speaker 6: the same color for each of the letters. I just thought,
• 25:16
  Speaker 6: what a cool thing. And I'm well known as a
• 25:19
  Speaker 6: political opponent of Donald Trump, and I just thought, well,
• 25:22
  Speaker 6: that's cool. My Instagram account is family politics stuff, including
• 25:26
  Speaker 6: stuff like this. I put a shell on last fall.
• 25:29
  Speaker 6: I thought it was cool. Someone had painted the inside
• 25:31
  Speaker 6: of a big shell to say vot Kamala, and I
• 25:33
  Speaker 6: thought that's really cool, so I put that on. But
• 25:35
  Speaker 6: so it's not a particular message other than that.
• 25:38
  Speaker 5: I was just going to ask you what the MSNBC
• 25:40
  Speaker 5: interview you were doing, because on social media everyone's saying
• 25:44
  Speaker 5: he's talking about the white supremacist adjacent Republican Party. Everybody
• 25:50
  Speaker 5: in the party, Yeah, voters, what what's you want to
• 25:54
  Speaker 5: thank you? No clarification at all.
• 25:56
  Speaker 4: No, I'm not going to comment on Okay, thank you, well,
• 25:59
  Speaker 4: thank you?
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: Hello, I love it.
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: Be well, I'm not gonna clarify and that I'm going
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: to keep that out there as well.
• 26:04
  Speaker 3: Buy my book, What utter garbage. Oh, I just thought
• 26:10
  Speaker 3: it was kind of interesting. I just thought it was,
• 26:14
  Speaker 3: you know, kind of pretty. The seashells were pretty. Like,
• 26:18
  Speaker 3: what an absurd claim, And there's something mocking about it
• 26:25
  Speaker 3: that he could claim. Okay, Number one, James Comy is
• 26:30
  Speaker 3: not a stupid man.
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he's smart. He knows what he's doing.
• 26:34
  Speaker 3: He knows exactly what he is doing. And James Comy
• 26:41
  Speaker 3: number one, he knows who forty seven is. He knows
• 26:43
  Speaker 3: exactly who forty seven is. Forty seven is the forty
• 26:46
  Speaker 3: seventh President of the United States Donald J. Trump Number two.
• 26:52
  Speaker 3: The claim that he didn't know what eighty six is. Listen,
• 26:57
  Speaker 3: that is that that is absurd. It is it is
• 27:04
  Speaker 3: not remotely credible. And the fact that he's saying that,
• 27:08
  Speaker 3: the fact that he's saying that is mocking. It is
• 27:10
  Speaker 3: a level of contempt. And listen. I gotta say, I
• 27:14
  Speaker 3: don't know Comy personally, but in my view, he is
• 27:21
  Speaker 3: someone who was consumed by power. When he was the
• 27:25
  Speaker 3: head of the FBI, I think he had delusions of grandeur.
• 27:27
  Speaker 3: I think he believed he was j Edgar Hoover and
• 27:30
  Speaker 3: he wanted to have presidents of the United States reporting
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: to him. By the way, do you happen to know
• 27:37
  Speaker 3: off the top of your top of your head what
• 27:39
  Speaker 3: eighteen USC. Section eight seventy one provides, No, what is it?
• 27:44
  Speaker 3: What's funny? It's actually a felony. Threatening the President of
• 27:47
  Speaker 3: the United States is a felony that's punishable by up
• 27:50
  Speaker 3: to five years in Prisonman, you would think the head
• 27:52
  Speaker 3: of the FBI would know that, and yet he blithely said, Oh,
• 27:56
  Speaker 3: I just saw some pretty seashells. You know, nothing to
• 28:00
  Speaker 3: see here.
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: And let's just remind people when you said that he's smart.
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: This is the same guy that mocked the Trump administration
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: the first time, right when they got into office, when
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: he just sent a couple FBI agents over to try
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: to entrap General Flynn. Like, never forget. That's how calculated
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: this guy is. So for him to say, oh, I
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: just saw a picture here and I thought it was
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: really cute to seashells, I don't buy that crap for
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: a moment.
• 28:24
  Speaker 3: He proposed sending someone wearing a wire to entrap the
• 28:27
  Speaker 3: President of the United States. And I want you to
• 28:29
  Speaker 3: listen to him with Nicole Wallace and MSNBC because I
• 28:33
  Speaker 3: want you to listen to just this this smarmy, sanctimonious,
• 28:38
  Speaker 3: dishonest You can tell what I think about him here
• 28:40
  Speaker 3: to just play his words and see if you agree
• 28:42
  Speaker 3: with me.
• 28:43
  Speaker 7: You're back in the middle of a political firestorm.
• 28:47
  Speaker 6: Yeah, for walking on the beach with my wife. So
• 28:51
  Speaker 6: I don't know how we ended up here. Never occurred
• 28:52
  Speaker 6: to me that it was any kind of controversial thing,
• 28:54
  Speaker 6: but that's the time we live.
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: In, Okay.
• 28:58
  Speaker 3: Then there's a technical word for what he just said
• 29:00
  Speaker 3: there that would be called a lie. He is deliberately lying,
• 29:04
  Speaker 3: he knows he's lying. He is not in trouble for
• 29:07
  Speaker 3: walking on the beach with his wife. He is understandably
• 29:10
  Speaker 3: in trouble for publicly advocating the murder of the president
• 29:13
  Speaker 3: of the United States.
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: And yet there's a lot of you think he knew
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: exactly what he was doing. And yeah, he may get
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: hauled in for some questioning, but he's not going to
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: get arrested because he's a former MPI director and that
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: guy never gets in trouble.
• 29:25
  Speaker 4: Right, Well, we shall see.
• 29:27
  Speaker 3: I will say Cash Betel and Dan Bongino are not
• 29:31
  Speaker 3: your typical heads of the FBI.
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a great point. It'd be very interesting to
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: see what happens moving forward. We'll keep you updated on it.
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: I want to move also the MPR lawsuit and get
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: your take on that center as well.
• 29:43
  Speaker 3: So this week NPR, National Public Radio, and three Colorado
• 29:47
  Speaker 3: Public Radio stations filed a lawsuit in federal court against
• 29:52
  Speaker 3: the Trump White House against the President's executive order barring
• 29:56
  Speaker 3: the use of funds for NPR and for PBS, and
• 30:00
  Speaker 3: the lawsuit says, quote, it is not always obvious when
• 30:03
  Speaker 3: the government has acted with a retaliatory purpose in violation
• 30:07
  Speaker 3: of the First Amendment.
• 30:09
  Speaker 4: But this wolf comes as a wolf.
• 30:11
  Speaker 3: The order targets NPR and PBS expressly because, in the
• 30:15
  Speaker 3: President's views, their news and other content is not fair, accurate,
• 30:21
  Speaker 3: or unbiased. Now let me stop and say, listen, you
• 30:26
  Speaker 3: could file a reasonable lawsuit arguing that on any of
• 30:30
  Speaker 3: these particular executive orders that where you're dealing with congressional appropriations,
• 30:35
  Speaker 3: that challenging the authority of an executive order to limit
• 30:38
  Speaker 3: congressional appropriations. That's an area that's being litigated. That's going
• 30:42
  Speaker 3: to be litigated, and reasonable minds can can differ on
• 30:45
  Speaker 3: what is permissible. And we've talked in previous podcasts that
• 30:49
  Speaker 3: there is there is a significant dispute over the president's
• 30:53
  Speaker 3: authority to engage in what is called impoundment, which is
• 30:56
  Speaker 3: essentially to decline to spend money that comeungress as appropriated.
• 31:01
  Speaker 3: That you want to file a lawsuit over that, Okay, courts,
• 31:05
  Speaker 3: we'll sort that out.
• 31:06
  Speaker 4: That'll be litigated.
• 31:07
  Speaker 3: But here what this lawsuit is claiming is that the
• 31:10
  Speaker 3: First Amendment prohibits defunding NPR. And the reason they say
• 31:15
  Speaker 3: it really is absurd is you can't defund the NPR
• 31:19
  Speaker 3: simply because quote their news and other content is not fair,
• 31:24
  Speaker 3: accurator unbiased. Now let me say I think no objective
• 31:27
  Speaker 3: person on planet Earth can contend that NPR or PBS
• 31:33
  Speaker 3: are fair, accurator unbiased. And so we really are in
• 31:36
  Speaker 3: Alison Wonderland through the looking glass, where you now have
• 31:40
  Speaker 3: litigants arguing because NPR and PBS are dishonest and political,
• 31:46
  Speaker 3: you can't cut off funding because cutting off funding would
• 31:49
  Speaker 3: be silencing our right to be dishonest and political and
• 31:52
  Speaker 3: not just look, you absolutely have a right to be
• 31:55
  Speaker 3: dishonest and political. So MSNBC can publish any nonsense they want,
• 32:01
  Speaker 3: CNN can publish any nonsense they want. Now nobody watches them.
• 32:04
  Speaker 3: It's kind of a tree falling in the woods. But
• 32:06
  Speaker 3: they have a right to say it. They have a
• 32:08
  Speaker 3: right to to to to say utter nonsense. But NPR's
• 32:11
  Speaker 3: argument is not only do they have a right to
• 32:13
  Speaker 3: say it, which I agree they do, but they have
• 32:15
  Speaker 3: a right to have the taxpayers fund them forever that
• 32:18
  Speaker 3: that that it is illegal for us to stop paying
• 32:22
  Speaker 3: for their partisan lives. I gotta say, that is an
• 32:26
  Speaker 3: absurd claim. And it is the simple simple reality of
• 32:30
  Speaker 3: of of of the absurdity of the left.
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it is.
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: And and I wonder when we will actually get resolution
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: on this. Is there a real chance you think that
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: we could actually defund m p R, PBS and just say, hey,
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: make it on your own.
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: Is there a real chance?
• 32:48
  Speaker 3: Look, I certainly hope so. I am pressing to do so.
• 32:50
  Speaker 3: I'm pressing Congress to do so. I'm pressing Congress to
• 32:54
  Speaker 3: to enact and codify the Doge cuts that that we've
• 32:58
  Speaker 3: seen Elon Muskin doche put in play. We're gonna have
• 33:00
  Speaker 3: a battle on Congress. We're gonna have a battle in
• 33:02
  Speaker 3: Congress if it has to go through regular order. What
• 33:06
  Speaker 3: regular order means is is the standard path of legislation.
• 33:10
  Speaker 3: That means it's subject to filibuster. That means you need
• 33:13
  Speaker 3: sixty votes in the Senate, which means you need seven Democrats.
• 33:16
  Speaker 3: If you have to get seven Democrats.
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: And that's how they save it, is what you're saying.
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: That's right, that's their ideal situation is you guys complain
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: about it and we keep giving billions to our propaganda machines.
• 33:27
  Speaker 3: Zero Democrats will vote to defund NPR or PBS, which
• 33:31
  Speaker 3: means if it goes through regular order, it will not happen.
• 33:35
  Speaker 4: The other way is did.
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: That proof of just how biased they are, the fact
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: that zero of them would go to defund it because
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: they know how valuable it is to their propaganda.
• 33:43
  Speaker 4: And they don't care.
• 33:44
  Speaker 3: In fact, I want you to listen to Catherine Maher,
• 33:46
  Speaker 3: the CEO of NPR, who describes the First Amendment as
• 33:51
  Speaker 3: the quote the greatest challenge that she faces to controlling
• 33:56
  Speaker 3: narratives here.
• 33:57
  Speaker 4: Give a listen.
• 33:57
  Speaker 8: The number one challenge here that we and is, of course,
• 34:01
  Speaker 8: the First Amendment in the United States is a fairly
• 34:04
  Speaker 8: robust protection of rights. And that is a protection of
• 34:10
  Speaker 8: rights both for platforms, which I actually think is very
• 34:11
  Speaker 8: important that platforms have those rights to be able to
• 34:14
  Speaker 8: regulate what kind of content they want on their sites.
• 34:17
  Speaker 8: But it also means that it is a little bit
• 34:19
  Speaker 8: tricky to really address some of the real challenges of
• 34:23
  Speaker 8: where does bad information come from and sort of the
• 34:26
  Speaker 8: influenced peddlers who have made a real market economy around it.
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: I mean that through your tax hours are going and
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: that's a woman who's in charge.
• 34:33
  Speaker 3: Damn it, that pesky First Amendment. We want to censor,
• 34:36
  Speaker 3: we want to silence voices we disagree with, and that
• 34:39
  Speaker 3: First Amendment stands in the way. And here I want
• 34:41
  Speaker 3: you to listen to this, this montage of of Catherine
• 34:46
  Speaker 3: Marr being being grilled at congressional hearing. Give a listen
• 34:49
  Speaker 3: to to just how extreme the NPR CEO is.
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  Speaker 9: And I welcome the opportunity to discuss the essential role
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  Speaker 9: of public media in delivering unbiased, non partisan, fact based
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  Speaker 9: reporting to Americans. Madam Chair, thank you so much for
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  Speaker 9: the opportunity to address this. I know the youth.
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  Speaker 7: Is it up to you, an MPR, to crack down
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  Speaker 7: on bad information or decide the truth to answer the
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  Speaker 7: question yes or no?
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  Speaker 9: Miss more absolutely not. I'm a very strong believer in
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  Speaker 9: free speech, and I believe that more sep.
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  Speaker 7: Your public statements say otherwise. During the COVID pandemic in
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  Speaker 7: the twenty twenty election, you said you censored information through
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  Speaker 7: conversations with government. Which governments were those, Miss Mahr the
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  Speaker 7: Biden administration, yes or.
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  Speaker 9: No, Madam Chair, Wikipedia never censored any information.
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  Speaker 7: These are your public statements, Miss More.
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  Speaker 9: Madam Chair, we are in full compliance and with the
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  Speaker 9: FCC's and Kreen, we'll continue to cooperate.
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  Speaker 7: I remind you you're under oath. I'm assuming you're concerned.
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  Speaker 7: Both of you are concerned about this, and that's why
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  Speaker 7: you brought so many attorneys with you today.
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  Speaker 9: First of all, I want to recognize your concerns. One
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  Speaker 9: of the first things that I did in coming in
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  Speaker 9: in May was to beef off our editorial standards.
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  Speaker 1: Two PR than doing editorial I'm so sorry.
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  Speaker 3: AD a federally funded entity that's supposed to provide the news,
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  Speaker 3: not provide the news.
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  Speaker 10: Of course, of course, Congressman, an article by Uri Berlinger.
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  Speaker 10: I've been at NPR for twenty five years. Here's how
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  Speaker 10: we lost America's trust.
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  Speaker 9: Well, I do want to say that NPR acknowledges that
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  Speaker 9: we were mistaken and failing to cover the Hunter Biden
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  Speaker 9: laptop story more aggressively and sooner. Our current editorial leadership wuhan,
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  Speaker 9: we recognize that we were reporting at the time, but
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  Speaker 9: we acknowledged that the new CIA evidence is worthy of
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  Speaker 9: coverage and have covered up.
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  Speaker 10: You've even talked about the First Amendment kind of getting
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  Speaker 10: in the way of what you wanted to get done.
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  Speaker 10: NPR is now and taking this non biased approach.
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  Speaker 9: I so appreciate the opportunity to perhaps clarify some things.
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  Speaker 9: My talk about truth was really referencing the way that
• 36:44
  Speaker 9: people use truth to refer to belief as opposed to facts.
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  Speaker 10: Your comments said that truth was getting the way of
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  Speaker 10: getting things done and that you were prioritizing what you
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  Speaker 10: wanted to get done over truth.
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  Speaker 11: Did they come up in your job interview? Like, do
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  Speaker 11: you see a problem?
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  Speaker 1: Congressman?
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  Speaker 9: Thank you for the No, they never came up in
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  Speaker 9: my job interview.
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  Speaker 11: You're a rabid progressive, and do you not think it's
• 37:06
  Speaker 11: a problem that your political leanings make it seem to
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  Speaker 11: the American people that you're not biased and you're not
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  Speaker 11: doing your job because you agree that your job is
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  Speaker 11: to have journalistic integrity.
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  Speaker 9: Right, absolutely, But there is a strong firewall between the
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  Speaker 9: newsroom and anything that I let's.
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  Speaker 1: Talk about the newsroom.
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  Speaker 11: You have eighty seven registered Democrats, not a single Republican
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  Speaker 11: in your editor boards. I mean, how does that work
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  Speaker 11: to give us the perception that you're doing your job
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  Speaker 11: of actually delivering unbiased information.
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  Speaker 9: I would agree with you that that number is a
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  Speaker 9: concern if it is accurate. I do believe that we
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  Speaker 9: need to have journalists who represent the full breadth of
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  Speaker 9: the American society so that we can report well for
• 37:45
  Speaker 9: all Americans.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I just got to stop it there.
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  Speaker 2: This goes on for several more minutes, but that part
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  Speaker 2: there at the end where he's like, you got eighty
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  Speaker 2: seven people on the editorial board.
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  Speaker 1: They're all Democrats. You don't have seen a Republican.
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  Speaker 2: And then she's like, yeah, if that number is true,
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: then it is a con earn.
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  Speaker 3: The argument of NPR is that the First Amendment requires
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  Speaker 3: for you and me to keep paying for them to
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  Speaker 3: propagandize and lie. And I got to say one of
• 38:13
  Speaker 3: my favorite facts, as I said, it's not just NPR,
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  Speaker 3: it's three Colorado radio stations. The statewide Colorado Public Radio
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  Speaker 3: station based in Denver KSUT, which was originally founded by
• 38:27
  Speaker 3: the Southern Ute Indian tribe.
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  Speaker 4: And this is the one that cracks me up.
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  Speaker 3: The Aspen Public Radio, which broadcasts in Aspen, one of
• 38:37
  Speaker 3: the richest communities on planet Earth. If you're an Aspen
• 38:42
  Speaker 3: and you look at the airport, you just see a
• 38:45
  Speaker 3: line of private jets as far as the eye can see.
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  Speaker 3: And their argument is, the First Amendment mandates that we
• 38:52
  Speaker 3: tax American workers to pay for propaganda in Aspen. Because
• 38:58
  Speaker 3: the poor, wretched masses of aspend can't afford to pay
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  Speaker 3: for their own propaganda, they need to tax American workers instead.
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