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FBI had TWENTY-SIX CONFIDENTIAL INFORMANTS at Jan 6 Riot plus Biden Admin Illegally Auctioning off Border Wall · The Ben Ferguson Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Welcome in its verdict with Center, Ted Cruz, Ben Ferguson
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  Speaker 1: with you and Senator I think we can just go
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  Speaker 1: ahead and start the show with simple we told you
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  Speaker 1: so on this show a long time ago, that there
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  Speaker 1: was in fact people that were working with the FBI
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  Speaker 1: in and around January sixth at the Capitol.
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  Speaker 2: You know, I got to say, at this point, it
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  Speaker 2: is getting striking. Everything that has decried as a conspiracy
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  Speaker 2: theory just a few months later is proven right. It
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  Speaker 2: wasn't that long ago where the media and Democrats were
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  Speaker 2: screaming if you said the COVID virus escaped from the
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  Speaker 2: Wuhan lab in China, you were painted as a crazy
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  Speaker 2: conspiracy theorist until it was confirmed very likely to be true.
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  Speaker 2: It wasn't that long ago. If you said, as we
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  Speaker 2: did on this podcast that Joe Biden has deteriorated mentally
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  Speaker 2: severely and will not be the Democrat nominee for president
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  Speaker 2: twenty twenty four, that was derided as a crazy conspiracy
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  Speaker 2: theory until again it was proven right. And it wasn't
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  Speaker 2: that long ago that if you said that the FBI
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  Speaker 2: had confidential human sources, had undercover agents at the January
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  Speaker 2: sixth riots, participating in those riots, as we did on
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  Speaker 2: this podcast that was decried as a crazy conspiracy theory.
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  Speaker 2: All three of those statements verdict was ahead of the curve.
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  Speaker 2: We laid out the facts for them early on, and
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  Speaker 2: now all three have been proven accurate. This week, the
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  Speaker 2: Inspector General of the Department of Justice revealed twenty six
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  Speaker 2: FBI informants were present on January sixth, multiple entered the
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  Speaker 2: capital and participated in the riots on that day. We're
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  Speaker 2: going to break all of that down, and we're going
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  Speaker 2: to lay out how this podcast laid out the evidence
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  Speaker 2: long before it was now acknowledged publicly. We're also going
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  Speaker 2: to talk about how the Biden administration in the final
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  Speaker 2: days it reminds me of you remember in the nineteen nineties,
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  Speaker 2: in the two thousand those films on Cable of Girls
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  Speaker 2: Gone Wild. Oh yeah, that is the Biden administration. They're
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  Speaker 2: drunk and screaming around like crazy and just pushing every
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  Speaker 2: crazy left wing theory that they have, and this is
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  Speaker 2: something that pisses me off. We're going to talk about
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  Speaker 2: the Biden administration is literally trying to auction off portions
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  Speaker 2: of the border wall that have not been constructed for
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  Speaker 2: as little as five bucks apiece. Why because they desperately
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  Speaker 2: don't want Trump to use it, so they're trying to
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  Speaker 2: basically rob the American taxpayers to keep an open border
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  Speaker 2: as long as possible. All of that is on today's podcast.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, We've got a lot to cover.
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  Speaker 1: go back in time to start with this FBI story center.
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  Speaker 1: And I think there's a lot of Americans now that
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  Speaker 1: are just livid. I want to go back to what
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  Speaker 1: we already knew and the FBI's refusal to answer your
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  Speaker 1: question on this exact issue in twenty twenty three told
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  Speaker 1: us everything we need to know, which has now basically
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  Speaker 1: become true. Now set this up for everybody, say, know
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  Speaker 1: who you're talking to before I hit play.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I'm here questioning a senior official from the FBI,
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  Speaker 2: Jill Sanborn, about what happened on January sixth, and I'm
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  Speaker 2: trying to get just some basic facts. And for a
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  Speaker 2: spoiler alert, the FBI, like the Department of Justice both
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  Speaker 2: under Joe Biden, just stonewall. They refuse to answer anything.
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  Speaker 2: So listen back. This is over a year ago, and
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  Speaker 2: we're going to find out that everything I was asking
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  Speaker 2: about then well, it's pretty much proven true today. Give
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  Speaker 2: a listen. How many FBI agents are confidential in fullm
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  Speaker 2: ormans actively participated in the events of January sixth, Sir,
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  Speaker 2: I'm sure you can appreciate that. I can't go into
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  Speaker 2: the specifics of sources and methods. Did any FBI agents
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  Speaker 2: or confidential informants actively participate in the events of January sixth? Yes, Orday, Sir,
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  Speaker 2: I can't.
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  Speaker 4: I can't answer that.
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  Speaker 2: Did any FBI agents or confidential informants commit crimes of
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  Speaker 2: violence on January sixth?
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  Speaker 4: I can't answer that, sir.
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  Speaker 2: Did any FBI agents or FBI informants actively encourage and
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  Speaker 2: insight crimes of violence on January sixth?
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  Speaker 3: Sor, I can't answer that, Miss Sadburn.
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  Speaker 2: Who is Rey Epps? I'm aware of the individual, Sir,
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  Speaker 2: I don't have the specific background to him. Well, there
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  Speaker 2: are a lot of people who are ustandably are stard
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  Speaker 2: about mister f On the night of January fifth, twenty
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  Speaker 2: twenty one, Epps wandered around the crowd that had gathered,
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  Speaker 2: and there's video out there of him channing tomorrow we
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  Speaker 2: need to get into the capitol. This was strange behavior,
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  Speaker 2: so strange that the crowd began chanting fed fed Fed,
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  Speaker 2: Fed Fed Fed, Miss Sandburn, was Ray EPPSA fed? Sir?
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  Speaker 3: I cannot answer that question.
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  Speaker 2: The next day, on January sixth, mister F's is seen
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  Speaker 2: whispering to a person, and five seconds later, five seconds
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  Speaker 2: after he's whispering to a person, that same person begins
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  Speaker 2: to forcibly tear down the barricades. Did mister Epps urge
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  Speaker 2: them to tear down the barricades, Sir?
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  Speaker 3: Similar to the other answers, I cannot answer that.
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  Speaker 2: Shortly thereafter, the FBI put out a public posts seeking
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  Speaker 2: information on individuals connected with violent crimes on January sixth.
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  Speaker 2: Among those individuals in the bottom there is mister Epps.
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  Speaker 2: The FBI publicly asked for information identifying offering cash rewards
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  Speaker 2: leading to information leading for information leading to the arrest.
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  Speaker 2: This was posted, and then some time later, magically, mister
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  Speaker 2: Epps disappeared from the public posting. According to public records,
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  Speaker 2: mister Epps has not been charged with anything. No one's
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  Speaker 2: explained why a person videoed urging people to go to
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  Speaker 2: the capital, A person whose conduct was so suspect the
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  Speaker 2: crowd believed he was a FED would magically disappear from
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  Speaker 2: the list of people the FBI was looking at. Miss Sandburn.
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  Speaker 2: A lot of Americans are concerned that the federal government
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  Speaker 2: deliberately encouraged illegal and violent conduct on January sixth. My
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  Speaker 2: question to you, and this is not an ordinary law
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  Speaker 2: enforcement question, this is a question of a public accountability.
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  Speaker 2: Did federal agents or those in service of federal agent
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  Speaker 2: actively encourage violent and criminal conduct on January sixth?
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  Speaker 1: Not to my knowledge, sir, So let me just ask
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  Speaker 1: the obvious question center, what was the basis and how
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  Speaker 1: did the FBI, back when you were asking these questions
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  Speaker 1: in twenty twenty three, get away with not answering one
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  Speaker 1: of your questions.
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  Speaker 2: Well, unfortunately, particularly under Joe Biden, both the FBI and
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  Speaker 2: the DOJ behave as if they are utterly unaccountable to
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  Speaker 2: Congress and to the American people. So every time I
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  Speaker 2: asked the Department of Justice or I asked the FBI
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  Speaker 2: about anything about their abuse of power, about their politicized
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  Speaker 2: enforcement of justice, about their weaponization, they stonewall. Often they
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  Speaker 2: will say I don't know, I don't know, I don't
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  Speaker 2: know that. That has happened many times when you ask
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  Speaker 2: about them or they refuse to answer reasonable questions, or
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  Speaker 2: they do is they just as they do just there
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  Speaker 2: they say, they just stonewall.
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  Speaker 1: I can tell you, is that because that you don't
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  Speaker 1: have to worry about like any.
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  Speaker 3: Consequences.
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  Speaker 1: I mean they go into the meeting clearly saying, if
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  Speaker 1: there's a question you don't want I answer, just don't
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  Speaker 1: answer it.
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  Speaker 2: So, yes, there are several reasons. Number one, under the Democrats.
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  Speaker 2: And remember the Democrats have the majority in the Senate
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  Speaker 2: right now. So no Democrat cares about the answer to
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  Speaker 2: this question. No Democrat asks these questions. No Democrat will
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  Speaker 2: enforce a subpoena, no Democrat will vote for a subpoena,
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  Speaker 2: No Democrat will do anything do in post consequences. But
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  Speaker 2: not only that, Merrick Garland and the entire Department of
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  Speaker 2: Justice and the FBI, I think they have an arrogance
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  Speaker 2: that they believe they don't answer to anyone. And I'll
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  Speaker 2: tell you this is a problem that is extended. It's
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  Speaker 2: been a bipartisan problem. It's been a problem at DOJ
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  Speaker 2: and the FBI through Republican and Democrat administrations. I can
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  Speaker 2: tell you I spent over an hour today meeting with
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  Speaker 2: Cash Patel, who's President Trump's nominee to run the FBI.
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  Speaker 2: I met previously with Pam Bondi, who's President Trump's nominee
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  Speaker 2: to be the Department of Justice. I am hopeful that
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  Speaker 2: both of them. I think both will be confirmed, and
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  Speaker 2: I'm hopeful that both of them will bring much much
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  Speaker 2: greater transparency to the Department of Justice and the FBI
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  Speaker 2: than we have seen under Joe Biden. That they will
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  Speaker 2: answer these questions, and based on the conversations I've had
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  Speaker 2: with them, I have real reason to be helpful because
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  Speaker 2: they're telling me that they intend to substantially increase the transparency.
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  Speaker 2: I think that's an obligation. I can tell you I
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  Speaker 2: have had this conversation directly with Chris Ray repeatedly, and
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  Speaker 2: he views his job as I've got to protect the FBI,
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  Speaker 2: and so when his people's stonewall, he's just going to
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  Speaker 2: circle the wagons around them and try to try to
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  Speaker 2: protect their stonewalling. And I think there's an obligation, particularly
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  Speaker 2: on something such as the riots on January sixth, where
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  Speaker 2: there is intense public concern, what was the involvement of
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  Speaker 2: the federal government of the FBI, and listen, we now know,
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  Speaker 2: not through any transparency from the FBI, but instead the
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  Speaker 2: Inspector General of the Department of Justice, Michael Horowitz, put
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  Speaker 2: out a report, and the report concluded just this week
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  Speaker 2: that twenty six FBI informants were present on January sixth
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  Speaker 2: in the crowd outside the Capitol, only three were assigned
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  Speaker 2: by the FBI to be present for the event. And
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  Speaker 2: now the Inspector General report stresses that none of the
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  Speaker 2: sources were authorized or directed by the bureau to quote
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  Speaker 2: break the law or quote encourage others to commit illegal acts.
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  Speaker 2: Now that's they weren't authorized and to do so. But
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  Speaker 2: what it doesn't say conclusively is they didn't do so.
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  Speaker 2: The report says, quote. Today's report also details our findings
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  Speaker 2: regarding FBI confidential human sources who were in Washington, d C.
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  Speaker 2: On January sixth. Our review determined that none of these
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  Speaker 2: FBI confidential human sources was authorized by the FBI to
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  Speaker 2: enter the capital or restricted area or to otherwise break
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  Speaker 2: the law on January sixth, nor was any confidential human
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  Speaker 2: source directed by the FBI to encourage others to commit
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  Speaker 2: illegal acts on January sixth.
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  Speaker 1: However, that sounds like some lawyer terms I know you're
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  Speaker 1: reading this, and I want to read. So it is
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  Speaker 1: it's written by weren't encouraged to break the law, like
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  Speaker 1: that's that's some that is written by a lawyer.
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  Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, no, you're actually you missed one of
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  Speaker 2: the verbs. I'm ready directed by the FBI to encourage
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  Speaker 2: others to committee the illegal acts. So there's a double that.
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  Speaker 2: There's a double set of verbs. It's saying the FBI
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  Speaker 2: did not order them to encourage others to commit illegal acts.
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  Speaker 2: That doesn't say they didn't encourage others, They didn't incite
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  Speaker 2: others to committee legal acts. It just says they weren't
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  Speaker 2: ordered by the FBI to do so. And it also
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  Speaker 2: says they weren't authorized to enter the capital or the
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  Speaker 2: restricted area. But interestingly enough, it concludes, however, that they
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  Speaker 2: went far beyond their authorization. So three confidential human sources,
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  Speaker 2: according to this report, were tasked by the FBI to
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  Speaker 2: attend the rally, and one of the three tasked by
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  Speaker 2: the FBI to attend the rally entered the Capitol building, which,
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  Speaker 2: minds you, the Biden Department of Justice contends is illegal
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  Speaker 2: and they're prosecuting people for it. The other two entered
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  Speaker 2: the restricted area around the Capitol, which I believe they
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  Speaker 2: are also prosecuting people for doing. And one thing to
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  Speaker 2: understand that if a confidential human source is directed to
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  Speaker 2: be at an event by the FBI, they're being paid
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  Speaker 2: by the FBI for their time. Here's what the report says. Quote.
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  Speaker 2: One FBI field office tasked a confidential human source to
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  Speaker 2: travel to DC to report on the activities of a
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  Speaker 2: predicted domestic terrorism subject who was separately planning to travel
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  Speaker 2: to d C for the January sixth electoral certification. A
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  Speaker 2: second FBI field office t a confidential human source to
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  Speaker 2: travel to DC to potentially report on two domestic terrorism
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  Speaker 2: subjects from another FBI field office who were planning to
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  Speaker 2: travel to DC for the events of January sixth. And
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  Speaker 2: a third confidential human source who had informed their handling
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  Speaker 2: agent that they intended to travel to d C on
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  Speaker 2: their own initiative for the events of January sixth, was
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  Speaker 2: similarly tasked by their field office to potentially report on
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  Speaker 2: two domestic terrorism subjects from other FBI field offices who
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  Speaker 2: were planning to travel to DC for the events of
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  Speaker 2: January sixth. Twenty three of the confidential human sources present
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  Speaker 2: on January sixth came to the Capitol on their own.
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  Speaker 2: So of the twenty sixth that we were.
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  Speaker 1: Sorry, this is where my BS monitor goes off center.
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  Speaker 1: You're telling me that on January sixth, I'm supposed to
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  Speaker 1: believe that over twenty FBI informants just on their own accord,
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  Speaker 1: not being paid, not being directed by anyone in our government,
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  Speaker 1: just said no, let's go to January sixth and just
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  Speaker 1: see what happens.
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  Speaker 2: Well, that's what the report says. And it says of
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  Speaker 2: those twenty three, three entered the Capitol during the riot,
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  Speaker 2: and an additional eleven sources entered the restricted area around
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  Speaker 2: the capitol.
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  Speaker 1: So if eleven are restricted areas and three are inside,
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  Speaker 1: then my next question is how many of them have
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  Speaker 1: been charged with crimes?
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  Speaker 2: Well, the report doesn't answer that. And mind you, look,
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  Speaker 2: these are questions. These are all the questions that I
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  Speaker 2: was asking the FBI years ago, and that they were
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  Speaker 2: refusing to answer, and and and their view, there's an arrogance.
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  Speaker 2: They don't think the they owe the American people an answer,
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  Speaker 2: and and and and mind you, this FBI has has
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  Speaker 2: a bad pattern. If you look at the they brought
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  Speaker 2: a domestic terrorism case in Michigan. If you if you
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  Speaker 2: recall with the individuals that that were charged with attempting
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  Speaker 2: to kidnap and murder the governor Michigan, and and they
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  Speaker 2: prosecuted them, and they ended up having the case thrown
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  Speaker 2: out because because they concluded the FBI agents and trapped
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  Speaker 2: these guys that it was basically uh confidential human sources
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  Speaker 2: in the FBI that were saying, hey, don't you think
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  Speaker 2: this is a good idea. Let's let's let's go kidnap
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  Speaker 2: and murder the governor. And and the basic rule of
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  Speaker 2: criminal law is the federal government can't go entice you
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  Speaker 2: to commit a crime, all right.
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  Speaker 1: So so so then let's go back to January sixth
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  Speaker 1: that day and the questions that you were asking if
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  Speaker 1: if any of these FBI informants who are there on
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  Speaker 1: their own accord, is they want us to believe? Over
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  Speaker 1: twenty are there.
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  Speaker 2: And by the way, three were directed by the FBI
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  Speaker 2: to be.
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  Speaker 1: There, right, So if if the three that are being
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  Speaker 1: directed or directing people to commit crimes, let's start with
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  Speaker 1: those three then and then we'll move on to the
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  Speaker 1: other twenty.
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  Speaker 3: What does the law say about that? And the caple.
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  Speaker 2: So nothing in the report says whether these twenty six
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  Speaker 2: directed anyone to commit crimes.
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  Speaker 3: Correct.
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  Speaker 2: What the report says is the FBI didn't instruct them
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  Speaker 2: to encourage others to commit crimes. If you're whether they write.
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  Speaker 1: It or not, right, If you're a whay you're writing that,
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  Speaker 1: why are you writing it that way?
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  Speaker 3: Explain that? What is the strategy here? Is that?
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  Speaker 1: Because you and I know what the answer probably is,
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  Speaker 1: so therefore they're writing it that way.
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  Speaker 2: You know, Look, I don't know, and I will say
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  Speaker 2: I believe we will know much much more about this,
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  Speaker 2: uh in the next couple of months, once we have
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  Speaker 2: Pambondi and cash Ptel confirmed. I think they will release
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  Speaker 2: significantly more information to the public. I think they both
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  Speaker 2: understand the public has a right to know what was
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  Speaker 2: the FBI, what was the FBI's level of involvement, what
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  Speaker 2: was the culpability. I think there is significant public interest
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  Speaker 2: in the answers to that, and I think the Biden
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  Speaker 2: Department of Justice desperately wants to avoid anyone from knowing that.
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  Speaker 2: But you know what, that's the Democrats lost the election,
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  Speaker 2: and elections have consequences.
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  Speaker 1: So let's talk about the lie aspect of this real
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  Speaker 1: quick and what this means. Will there be accountability for
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  Speaker 1: the administration? Will there be accountability for the FBI if
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  Speaker 1: more of this comes out? Because revealing that twenty six
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  Speaker 1: FBI informants were presented, President, I should say on January
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  Speaker 1: the sixth, that is going against what we've been told
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  Speaker 1: since January the sixth.
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  Speaker 2: Well, to be fair, it's not clear to me that
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  Speaker 2: the FBI lied about this. We started this podcast playing
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  Speaker 2: my cross examination of a senior FBI official, and she
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  Speaker 2: just refused to answer me. She didn't lie, she didn't
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  Speaker 2: say no, they weren't there. She just said, I can't
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  Speaker 2: tell you that. I can't tell you that. I can't
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  Speaker 2: tell you that. So that's not a lie. That's not
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  Speaker 2: something that could be prosecuted for lying under oath Congress,
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  Speaker 2: because she just refused. That was stonewalling, that was a
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  Speaker 2: view I owe no responsibility to Congress. And understand listen
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  Speaker 2: at a hearing when members of Congress are questioning the administration.
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  Speaker 2: We're not doing so for our own edification. We're not
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  Speaker 2: doing so just because we think it'd be fun. We're
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  Speaker 2: doing so because we're trying to fulfill our responsibility to
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  Speaker 2: our constituents, in my case, to the thirty million Texans
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  Speaker 2: whom I represent, and ask questions on behalf of those
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  Speaker 2: Texans that I think they have a right to know
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: and they have an interest in knowing. And so when
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: the FBI and the Department of Justice arrogantly say I
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: won't answer that, they're telling the American people you have
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: no right to know what's going on. And I got
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: to say, there is a reason. I don't think there
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: is a single institution of government whose credibility and respect
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: has been diminished more in the last four years than
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: the FBI. And listen, that's tragic, I'm to tell you.
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: By the way, the American people right now, it's it's
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: like fifty over fifty one percent, if I remember correctly
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: in the poet saw just the other day, say they
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: do not have faith in the FBI.
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  Speaker 3: That is a travesty.
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Look, And as I said, I spent over an
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: hour talking with Cash Hotel today in my office, and
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: one of the things I told him is I said,
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: regularly in Texas when I'm back home, people will ask me,
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: shouldn't we abolish the FBI, And I tell them, no, Look,
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: the FBI does hugely important things. They stop terrorists are
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: trying to murder Americans, they stop serial killers, they stop
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: ch child predators and kidnappers. All of that. There is
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: a massively important law enforcement and national security mission for
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: the FBI. And one of the massive negative consequences of
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: Joe Biden the Democrats weaponizing the FBI and DJ is
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: far too many of their officials are spending time going
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: after and trying to persecute the enemies of the White
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: House rather than going after actual terrorists who want to
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: murder Americans. And it is it I think, and I
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: told Cashptell this today. I think he has He and
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: Pam Bondy may have the two most difficult jobs in
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: the entire administration because they have been nominated to restore
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: integrity to two institutions that are tremendously important to the
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: rule of law and keeping Americans safe.
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: All Right, final question on this, because I want to
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: move on to some of the other stuff. But I
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: do think this is a very important question. If you
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: are someone who has been convicted of all the crimes
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: that they threw at you, you took a plea deal
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: because you were so afraid of what the government was
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: going to do to you because you were in and
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: or around January sixth.
• 20:58
  Speaker 3: Let's say you're an individual that was.
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: Not violent, for example, and was not attacking the capital
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: on that day, but you were there and they came
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: after you. How could this affect your case now? Knowing
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: and what does this mean for your status if you're
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: in jail right now, knowing that this report reveals twenty
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: six FPI formants were president on January sixth. With the
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: questions now that we're talking about could that change your case?
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: Well, it depends, could it?
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: Sure?
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: And listen, I have long said there's a fundamental distinction
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: between those who commit crimes of violence and those who
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: do not. If you commit a crime of violence, if
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: you violently assault a police officer, I believe you should
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: be prosecutor. I think you should go to jail. I
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: don't think anybody has a right to assault a police officer.
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: And that is true whether I happen to agree with
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: your politics or disagree with your politics, nobody has a
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: right to commit violence. Nobody has a right to violently
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: attack a police officer. The flip side of that, everybody
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: has a right to engage in peaceful protest and peaceful speech.
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: And by the way, that's true whether I agree with
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: you or disagree with you, I may love what you're saying,
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: or I may hate what you're saying. You might be
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: a complete idiot knucklehead. You might be a klansman or
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: a Nazi or whatever. And I despise klansmen and Nazis.
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: But you know what, they have a right to speak
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: under the First Amendment. They don't have a right to
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: commit acts of violence, but they do have a right
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: to speak. Everyone has a right to speak. And what
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: the Biden Justice Department has done is it is used
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: a limited number of acts of violence as an excuse
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: I believe to target and persecute a large number of
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: people who are engaged in peaceful speech and protest. Now,
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: I have, over and over and over again asked the
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: Biden Department of Justice simple questions. How many people have
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: been prosecuted for crimes of violence on January six? How
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: many people have been prosecuted for nonviolent offenses on January six?
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: How many people are in solitary confinement. They refuse to
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: answer every question I've asked them in writing. They won't
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: answer in writing. I've asked them in hearings. They won't
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: answer in hearings. They stonewall, and they stonewall and they stonewall.
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: It's infuriating. And you know, when I go home to Texas,
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: people ask me those questions and I tell them frustratingly,
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: I don't know the answer. Because the Department of Justice
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: has the answer, they will not tell us. Well, here's
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: the good news. I think they're getting ready to tell us.
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: And I think they're getting ready to tell us because
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: when Donald Trump becomes the president puts new leadership there.
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: I think they understand that they're accountable to the American
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: people in a way that the arrogance of this current
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: administration believes they have zero accountability.
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, the question that many are asking is was this entrapment?
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: And more importantly, why did it take us four years
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: to learn about this? And that is I hope what
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: we get some answers to as you're mentioning in this
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: in this new administration. Amen, I want to get to
• 23:51
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  Speaker 3: All right, so let's go to the border.
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: And this might be one of the biggest just asinine
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: middle fingers from this administration. I don't know how you
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: want to categorize this one, but when I saw this report,
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: it actually made me angry. And that is that the
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: Biden administration is saying, Hey, we don't respect the voters,
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: We do not respect that the American people decided we
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: want security at our southern border, and what are they
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: doing to stick it to you? They're saying, all right,
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: watch this, We're going to sell pieces of the border
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: wall that have not been erected yet, just to say
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: screw you to the American people.
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: You know, I wish what you were saying was hyperbole.
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: I wish it was an exaggeration, but it's not. The
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: Daily Wire broke this story, and it's an exclusive story
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: that is just it's stunning, it's infuriating. Here's the headline, exclusive,
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: Biden races to sell off border wall parts before Trump
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: takes office. The goal is to move all of it,
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: all of it off the border before Christmas, an Arizona
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: Border Patrol agent tells the Daily Wire. Let me read
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: from this story. The Biden administration is using its final
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: weeks to haul a massive amount of border wall materials
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: away from the southern border to be sold off in
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: a government auction on apparent effort to hinder President elect
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: Trump's efforts to secure the border. The Daily Wire has learned.
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: Videos obtained exclusively by The Daily Wire from a US
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: Customs and Border Patrol agent show unused sections of the
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: wall being hauled away on the back of flatbed trucks
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: from a section of the border just south of Tucson,
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: a hotspot for illegal crossings during the Biden administration. The
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: agent estimates that up to a half mile per day
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: of unused border wall is being moved. This is not
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: a small amount, this is a massive amount. Continuing the
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: quote quote, they are taking it from three stations, Nogalis, Tucson,
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: and three points. The Border patrol agent, who was granted
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: anonymity to speak freely, told the Daily Wire the goal
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: is to move it all off the border before Christmas.
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: And here's something If that doesn't make you furious, listen, listen,
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: listen to this. The auction website shows that sales occurred
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: as recently as December fourth, for precisely the types of
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: materials being pulled off the border. Gov Planet has online
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: auction set for December eleventh and December eighteenth for more
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: border wall material, which is listed on the company's website
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: as quote thirty two point nine to one feet by
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: seven point nine to one feet steel ballered wall sections
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: with grout. The bidding for each section of wall panels
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: is set to begin at five dollars according to the website,
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: and this article has multiple screenshots showing showing these being
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: sold for five bucks apiece. I got to say, we
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: talked in the first segment about the arrogance and unaccountability
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: of the Biden Justice Department, of the Biden FBI. This is,
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: at the end of the day, that identical arrogance, and
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: it's an arrogance of Joe Biden, of Kamala Harris, of
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: Alejandro Majorcis, of Merrick Garland. And let's be clear of
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: Chuck Schumer and the Senate Democrats and Congressional Democrats. Every
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: person in America knows that the voters of America voted
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: to secure the border. They want that to happen. And
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: you know what the Democrats are saying on the way out,
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: screw you. We don't care. We don't care about the voters.
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: And what we're going to do. If Trump's going to
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: build the border wall, We're going to make it that
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: much more expensive because we are so bitterly ideological that
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: we will openly defy the will of the voters.
• 29:44
  Speaker 3: And let's just be honest about the logic.
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: If you're just talking about that, the logical math that
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: you do here, there's no doubt that the Biden administration
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: knows that this wall will be used, and if they
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: do sell it all off before Chris at five dollars
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: a panel, that this is going to have to be
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: repurchased at a much higher price because they just sold
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: what we had purchased before that has not been used
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: and it will be used and it will be done.
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: So this is just trying to make the American taxpayer
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: suffer a little bit and to say we can't stand
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: you and what you guys just voted for. This is
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: a retribution for you voting them out of office and
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: their way of sticking it to the American voter and taxpayer.
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: Well, that's right now. I will say there's an aspect
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: of this story that broke tonight. You and I are
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: recording this very late at night. It's twelve fifty seven
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: in the morning, Thursday night, and just this evening, the
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: Lieutenant Governor of Texas, Dan Patrick, a good friend of mine,
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: went on Laura Ingram Show, and he said the state
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: of Texas is preparing to buy up the border wall
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: segments from the Biden administration that they're selling for five
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: bucks apiece and then donate them back to the Trump administration,
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: and Dan Patrick says he has up to a billion
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: dollars of state funds to work with. I want you
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: to listen to Dan Patrick this evening on Laura Ingram
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: laying this out.
• 31:12
  Speaker 4: We mean business in Texas, and Tom Holmans means business
• 31:16
  Speaker 4: and President Trump means business. And I don't know if
• 31:18
  Speaker 4: you heard the latest today, Laura, but Joe Biden is
• 31:22
  Speaker 4: now hauling off the border wall that's been lying down
• 31:25
  Speaker 4: for years, and he wants to auction it off, starting
• 31:28
  Speaker 4: at five dollars a piece. Message to your White House
• 31:31
  Speaker 4: right now. I will bid on all of that wall,
• 31:34
  Speaker 4: and we will buy it in Texas and we will
• 31:36
  Speaker 4: give it to Donald Trump. So I'm going to find
• 31:39
  Speaker 4: out first thing in the morning. Where are we going
• 31:41
  Speaker 4: to take the bid. I've got a billion dollars in
• 31:44
  Speaker 4: my pocket to do it. I write the budget with
• 31:46
  Speaker 4: Senator Joan Hoffman.
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: We have the money.
• 31:48
  Speaker 3: We're going to have about.
• 31:49
  Speaker 4: Six billion in our budget for bordershipper.
• 31:51
  Speaker 3: Down Joe by the costs, don't drive up the costs.
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: It's only five bucks of five bucks, I noticed to
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: the wall, and I will go in and buy it all.
• 32:00
  Speaker 3: Ye I'm tell you, yeah. Well, what does this tell
• 32:03
  Speaker 3: you about the Biden people?
• 32:04
  Speaker 4: Tells you they're essentially green lights.
• 32:07
  Speaker 3: There a lot more people coming in.
• 32:08
  Speaker 4: Yeah, they're despicable what they're doing to the American people,
• 32:12
  Speaker 4: and the American people obviously aren't tolerated. That's why they
• 32:15
  Speaker 4: were thrown out. But the idea, We've been trying to
• 32:17
  Speaker 4: buy this wall form from them for four years and
• 32:21
  Speaker 4: they wouldn't sell it to us.
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: And you know what, I'm going to.
• 32:23
  Speaker 4: Check in with our Department of Public Safety. Maybe we
• 32:25
  Speaker 4: need to start pulling over these trucks to be sure
• 32:27
  Speaker 4: they don't have too much weight on those trucks. Maybe
• 32:29
  Speaker 4: these trucks need to be slowed down. We need to
• 32:32
  Speaker 4: do everything we can in Texas to stop them. The
• 32:35
  Speaker 4: taxpayers paid for this, and they want to stop President
• 32:39
  Speaker 4: Trump in thirty eight or thirty nine days from rebuilding
• 32:42
  Speaker 4: the wall. I want to This is the legacy of
• 32:45
  Speaker 4: Joe Biden. He lets off his son, he's letting off
• 32:48
  Speaker 4: all these criminals. He's doing everything he can with these
• 32:51
  Speaker 4: blue state governors and mayors to destroy this country. They
• 32:55
  Speaker 4: are traders to this country, leaving terrorists, leaving murders, leaving
• 33:00
  Speaker 4: rapist in this country, and now he wants to sabotage
• 33:03
  Speaker 4: this president before he takes off. It is disgraceful and
• 33:06
  Speaker 4: discussing he will go down as the worst, most despicable
• 33:09
  Speaker 4: president in the history of this country because no one
• 33:12
  Speaker 4: has done more to damage this country and hurt American citizens.
• 33:15
  Speaker 3: I would agree with you on that.
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: I think the point he's making here is absolutely right.
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: But even if it's five hours, you're double paying for
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: something that we've already paid for, and it's just solely
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: out of spite.
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: Well, and let me say number one, thank god for Texas.
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: Thank god for Texas stepping in into that leading Dan,
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: I'm glad you're doing that, but I've got to say also, listen,
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: I'm going to call on the incoming administration to investigate
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: whoever made the decision to do this. And let me
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: be clear. Let's say you're a government official, Ben and
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: you're pissed off at the people who are coming in
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: after you. They're mad at You're mad at the voters
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: because they elected someone different. And let's say, for example,
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: that you're running you're running a police department. Your dad's
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: a cop, You're running a police department, and you've got
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: a bunch of police cars that let's say we're forty
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: grand apiece, and you're mad because there's a new sheriff
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: that's been elected, and so you decide to take the
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: forty thousand dollars police cars. Let's say you got ten
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: of them, and you go out and say, I'm going
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: to auction the forty thousand dollars police cars off for
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: five bucks apiece because you want your successor not to
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: have any police cars. And so you sell forty thousand
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: dollars police cars for five bucks apiece. I'm going to
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: tell you right now that is theft from the taxpayers.
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: The idea, I guarantee you those segments of the wall.
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: They don't cost five dollars, they don't cost fifty dollars,
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: they don't cost five hundred dollars, they don't cost five
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: thousand dollars. And I got to say it is grotesque,
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: and I am calling right now for the incoming administration
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: to investigate every person that made the decision to steal
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: from the American taxpayers because they are such bitter partisans
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: that they want to deprive the federal government of assets
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: that the taxpayers paid for. You don't have the right
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: to do that it doesn't matter. Nobody has the right
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: to steal from the federal government. If you're selling segments
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: of this wall for five bucks apiece, that, in my view,
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: is absolute theft.
• 35:24
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