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Interview of the Week: Shaun Robinson Executive Produces two new Lifetime Movies, "Lust: A Seven Deadly Sins Story" and "Envy: A Seven Deadly Sins Story" · The Steve Harvey Morning Show

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  Speaker 1: She's a crowd graduate of HBCU. We always talk about
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  Speaker 1: this every time. Spellman in Atlanta University in Atlanta, Georgia. Spellman.
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  Speaker 1: She's an Emmy winning and journalist, TV host, producer, and philanthropist.
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  Speaker 1: She's an executive producer on the new Lifetime Originals movies
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  Speaker 1: Lust A Seven Deadly Sin Story and Envy that's back
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  Speaker 1: to back April tenth and April seventeen, Envy a seven
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  Speaker 1: Deadly Sin Story. And we also be discussing a little
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  Speaker 1: bit hosting Dudes of n any Day for Yance franchise.
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  Speaker 1: Tell All in her Foundation, which I always have to
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  Speaker 1: talk about, a Sean Foundation for Girls with Nurtures and
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  Speaker 1: supports underserved and underrepresented girls and young women in the
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  Speaker 1: areas of stem health, ottunity neighborhoods. Please welcome back to
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  Speaker 1: my show. I've been a long time Ms. Sean Robinson Illo,
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  Speaker 1: my friend. How are you? It's so great to be
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  Speaker 1: back here. Let me put the word executive producer Sean Robinson,
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  Speaker 1: because you know, Sean, we've known each other a long time.
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  Speaker 1: Originally of course, you know we use hosting the entertainment
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  Speaker 1: magazine show that journey to this journey. We don't see it,
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  Speaker 1: but it is happening now. And you and you're so
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  Speaker 1: popular on your LinkedIn. You know, people really resonate with
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  Speaker 1: your motivational quote and your your lifestyle. You really are
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  Speaker 1: starting to find your voice and maybe you've always had
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  Speaker 1: your voice, but you're using the platform to telling that.
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  Speaker 1: Tell us about that. Well, thank you so much for John.
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  Speaker 1: I really appreciated and uh, you know, just being here
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  Speaker 1: with you is a real blessing to be able to
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  Speaker 1: you know, share my message and uh you know, share
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  Speaker 1: these you know, these new chapters in my life because
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  Speaker 1: I'm all about, uh, you know, helping to motivate people
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  Speaker 1: and telling them that you know, you can do many
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  Speaker 1: things by by share, perseverance, they and hard work. Uh
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  Speaker 1: that's you know, That's what I'm about. So you know, um,
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  Speaker 1: you know it spent uh my entire career in front
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  Speaker 1: of the camera, uh doing first started in local news
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  Speaker 1: and my hometown of Detroit, and then work my way
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  Speaker 1: up through so many different news markets and then came
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  Speaker 1: to a national show and national back then met national
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  Speaker 1: because there was no Facebook, Twitter, no social media anything
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  Speaker 1: like that back in n I can't believe it was
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  Speaker 1: so so long ago. And then after spending you know,
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  Speaker 1: sixteen years on Access Hollywood, UM started thinking, you know,
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  Speaker 1: what is next? What's next for me? How do I
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  Speaker 1: how do I you know, use my talents, put what
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  Speaker 1: I've learned to good use, and just started kind of
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  Speaker 1: acquiring different properties, thinking about different projects that I wanted
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  Speaker 1: to do, and really trying to you know, pursue those
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  Speaker 1: goals and and and figure out like what exactly do
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  Speaker 1: I want my my next chapter to look like? And
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  Speaker 1: what do I want my legacy also to be? And
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  Speaker 1: so um, so here we are today. It's um you know,
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  Speaker 1: in addition to being an Emmy Award winning journalists, I
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  Speaker 1: now get to add executive producer, as you said, to
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  Speaker 1: my name, which I'm so excited about these new movies
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  Speaker 1: on Lifetime, not one, but two movies on lifetime. So
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  Speaker 1: I'm just really very very blessed. So yeah, it's been
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  Speaker 1: a long journey, but it's been one with peaks and
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  Speaker 1: valleys and so um, you know it's led me to
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  Speaker 1: you today. Well, you know the beauty of the valleys
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  Speaker 1: are there are major peaks that really doesn't the valley.
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  Speaker 1: Isn't that so much a valley. It's just a place
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  Speaker 1: to rest so you can clam another peak, and that's
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  Speaker 1: what you're doing every time I've seen you, you know,
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  Speaker 1: whether it's community and but it all started your in
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  Speaker 1: Atlanta Expellment and abc US came to the forefront of
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  Speaker 1: America during the pandemic era when especially post George Flores
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  Speaker 1: Corporation started making a lot of donations towards HBCUs. And
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  Speaker 1: we've always talked about HBCUs every time I've interviewed your
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  Speaker 1: own money making conversation. Talk about the foundation of that
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  Speaker 1: in Hollywood is dominated by HBCU graduates in the entertainment
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  Speaker 1: industry and you're just one of the leaders in that.
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  Speaker 1: Now behind the camera, talk about the success that you've
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  Speaker 1: got from the educational and the lifestyle that was presented
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  Speaker 1: to you at Spellman. Yeah, you know Spellman gave me
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  Speaker 1: um of an appreciation, a real appreciation for sisterhood. And
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  Speaker 1: also when you empower a girl, she can change the world.
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  Speaker 1: And that was one of the reasons that I started
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  Speaker 1: my foundation. But even before that, you know, I came
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  Speaker 1: from parents who always taught me, if God gives you
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  Speaker 1: a platform, use it to give back. I could cover
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  Speaker 1: a gazillion red carpets, I could make, you know, so
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  Speaker 1: much money in the world. But what I was doing
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  Speaker 1: for other people is what was important to my parents
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  Speaker 1: and to my grandparents. So I always you know, my
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  Speaker 1: journey through life has been led by philanthropy and giving back.
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  Speaker 1: So at Spellman it was you know, I remember Han
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  Speaker 1: just saying, I mean thinking about the women that I
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  Speaker 1: saw right before me as this girl, this teenage girl,
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  Speaker 1: and then a girl that you know, you know, in
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  Speaker 1: my early twenties, sitting there seeing like poets Nikki Giovanni,
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  Speaker 1: Alice Walker, um, Coretta Scott King, civil rights leaders coming
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  Speaker 1: through the gates of Spellman and speaking to us about
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  Speaker 1: our dreams, our goals, and um the fact that we
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  Speaker 1: can accomplish anything that we put our minds to. I
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  Speaker 1: would not trade my education at Spellman for anything in
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  Speaker 1: the world. It just taught us that, you know, first
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  Speaker 1: of all, taught us the value of education and a
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  Speaker 1: real gave us a real connection about our our ancestry
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  Speaker 1: and where we came from, and the fact that it
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  Speaker 1: was up to us to help change the world for
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  Speaker 1: the better for all these little black girls coming after us.
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  Speaker 1: So um that, like I said, that was one of
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  Speaker 1: the reasons that I started my foundation, because it's important
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  Speaker 1: to give back and it's important to give a voice
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  Speaker 1: to those that don't have one. Amazing Lifetime and Bishop
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  Speaker 1: td Jake's um the idea, the concept. Now, how did
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  Speaker 1: you gain control of the franchise that you have there?
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  Speaker 1: One is premiering on Lifetime this Saturday and the following Saturday,
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  Speaker 1: The Seconds premiering back to back weekends with your name
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  Speaker 1: on it. Talk about pulling it all together and then
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  Speaker 1: we're going to talk about each episode and not giving
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  Speaker 1: way too much of the plot. Yes, yes, and so richean, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I'm sure. Being you know, executive producer, you know yourself,
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  Speaker 1: you can identify with a lot of this story. But
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  Speaker 1: when I actually when I'm still at Access Hollywood, I
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  Speaker 1: started thinking about, like, okay, what what what you know?
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  Speaker 1: Do I want to have control over I I want
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  Speaker 1: to have control over different projects. I want to start
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  Speaker 1: acquiring projects that I'm really really interested in. Um. And
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  Speaker 1: so a friend of mine uh named Patrick Henry Bass.
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  Speaker 1: He was at Essence magazine at the time, who's the
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  Speaker 1: books editor. And he called me. You remember Patrick? I
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  Speaker 1: think you do know Patrick? He um. He called me
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  Speaker 1: up and he said, Sean, He said, I just got
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  Speaker 1: the galley for a new book, an upcoming book by
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  Speaker 1: author Victoria Christopher Murray, who was a very prominent author
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  Speaker 1: in the African American community. And she's written like I
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  Speaker 1: don't know, thirty books or so. And he said, the
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  Speaker 1: book is called Lust. She's writing the entire seven Deadly Sins.
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  Speaker 1: Each book is a different Deadly Sin. He said, you
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  Speaker 1: need to call Victoria up tell her that you want
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  Speaker 1: to option this book and the entire series. And so
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  Speaker 1: I called Victoria because I knew her, and I said, hey, Victoria,
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  Speaker 1: you know I'm producing now and I would really love
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  Speaker 1: to try to turn these books into movies. So she
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  Speaker 1: was like, Okay, let's do it. And so when I
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  Speaker 1: first so we did the deal. And when I first
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  Speaker 1: started pitching it around town for Shawan uh, you know,
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  Speaker 1: I pitched it back then to Lifetime. I pitched in
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  Speaker 1: to some other networks. I pitched it to individual producers
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  Speaker 1: and everyone loved it. But the timing wasn't right. This
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  Speaker 1: is the thing about timing, okay, just because there just
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  Speaker 1: because the answer is sometimes we think the answer is no,
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  Speaker 1: but the answer is really not yet. Okay, So that's
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  Speaker 1: really important. So I was pitching and pitching around town
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  Speaker 1: and then uh, you know, several months I think, gosh,
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  Speaker 1: almost a year probably went by, and I pictured to
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  Speaker 1: do T. D. Jake's also, and then Bishop Jakes did
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  Speaker 1: a project at Lifetime that was very very well received,
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  Speaker 1: as all of his projects are, but um, so he
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  Speaker 1: wanted he was acquiring more property he wanted to do,
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  Speaker 1: you know, he was looking for more projects to do.
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  Speaker 1: And so his his producing partner, Derrick Williams, called me
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  Speaker 1: up and he said, um he said, hey, Sean, do
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  Speaker 1: you still have you remember that project we talked about
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  Speaker 1: many many moons ago. Do you still have the project,
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  Speaker 1: the Seven Deadly Sins? And I said, yes, I do
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  Speaker 1: still have it. And he said, well, Bishop Jakes would
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  Speaker 1: like to partner with you and do it on Lifetime.
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  Speaker 1: And I'm like, uh, yeah, Okay, we did reformed this partnership,
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  Speaker 1: and there it was we had because of this, you know,
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  Speaker 1: because of this partnership. Now we have you know, these
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  Speaker 1: two movies, possibly seven movies. We we hope, um um,
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  Speaker 1: we're we're calling it. And that's how that's how it
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  Speaker 1: all happened. And so we started working on and started
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  Speaker 1: working on the scripts. Uh, you know, found writers for
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  Speaker 1: the you know, for the scripts, and then uh, COVID happened.
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  Speaker 1: Everything came to a standstill. I'm like, oh no, not again,
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  Speaker 1: not again, and so um and so then you everything
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  Speaker 1: slowed down. But then Lifetime came to us and said, okay,
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  Speaker 1: let's let's get in gear, let's do it, and we
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  Speaker 1: ramped up really really fast, and we shot through COVID
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  Speaker 1: and now here it is like and I think I
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  Speaker 1: optioned the books for Sean in twenty eighteen, I think,
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  Speaker 1: um or twenty seven actually in seventeen, that's when I
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  Speaker 1: talked to Victoria about the books. Seen here we are
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  Speaker 1: in uh, now the movies are happening, and so you know,
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  Speaker 1: sometimes it happens fast. Sometimes it does, but you just
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  Speaker 1: have to keep adding, you keep you have to keep
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  Speaker 1: on persevering until you reach that well. You know. The
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  Speaker 1: thing about it is that, first of all, that's with
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  Speaker 1: COVID interesting the laying everything that's still pretty fast, from
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  Speaker 1: the idea of talking to somebody then pitching it, and
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  Speaker 1: then you have back to back movies on back to
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  Speaker 1: back weekends carrying. It's pretty fast. It's pretty fast. For secondly,
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  Speaker 1: first of all, not only pretty fast, but also well produced.
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  Speaker 1: Where I saw both movies and off air, and I
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  Speaker 1: got to tell tell everybody on the air. I am
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  Speaker 1: a guy. I get a lot of books. I get
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  Speaker 1: a lot of movies to watch. Sometimes I watched three
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  Speaker 1: or four movies a weekend. I've gotten really good at
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  Speaker 1: reading books really fast, and reading and scanning through movies
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  Speaker 1: really bad. Because I see the beginning to apply. I
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  Speaker 1: pretty much know how the middle is gonna feel like
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  Speaker 1: in the end. I could not do that with your movies.
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  Speaker 1: Your movies was so well written, the characters were so
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  Speaker 1: well developed. If you did not, if you missed any
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  Speaker 1: nuance of the character's reason, the rational, or why they're
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  Speaker 1: doing something in the movie, then you missed the movie.
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  Speaker 1: It forced me to watch every minute of those movies.
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  Speaker 1: And that, my friend, is in the Incredible Testament to
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  Speaker 1: being a great writers, great directors, but also great leadership
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  Speaker 1: as an executive producer. Tell us about these movies. Well, okay,
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  Speaker 1: so lust is that insatiable desire to have something that
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  Speaker 1: you know you should not have. Okay, who hasn't felt
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  Speaker 1: that at some time in their life? Everybody can deal
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  Speaker 1: everybody can can identify with lusting after something or someone
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  Speaker 1: at some point in their life. So our our main character,
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  Speaker 1: Tiffany is um you know, she's in a relationship, about
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  Speaker 1: to get married with the man of her dreams, and
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  Speaker 1: then she is confronted with one of the deadly sins,
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  Speaker 1: which is lust, and how that takes her down a
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  Speaker 1: path that she is going to have to deal with
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  Speaker 1: the consequences of lust and how do you deal with it?
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  Speaker 1: And here here's the thing, Rashan, I grew up in
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  Speaker 1: the church, Okay, Um, I have a you know, my
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  Speaker 1: background is in the church. You know, I was baptized
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  Speaker 1: when I was I don't know, I think sick or
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  Speaker 1: took my first communion at six. Raised Catholic, but anyway,
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  Speaker 1: so you know, they teach us about the consequences of sin,
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  Speaker 1: the wages of sin, you know. So you know, I
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  Speaker 1: love these stories because it does have that element of faith,
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  Speaker 1: but it's not beating you over the head with you know,
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  Speaker 1: you should do this or you should do that. So
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  Speaker 1: the journy now the audience goes on journey with Tiffany.
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  Speaker 1: the Counsel Welcome Out and machines. Well it's it's first
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  Speaker 1: of all, great acting, great casting, you know. Let me
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  Speaker 1: just drop a little in the lust my man off
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  Speaker 1: sexy guys in this movie or carries it takes the
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  Speaker 1: lead in this movie as Tiffany's character. We got Tank
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  Speaker 1: was I don't want to say taking. I was trying
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  Speaker 1: to and saying, take that, because he looks great, his
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  Speaker 1: body looks he's shape. He takes his shirt off fifteen
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  Speaker 1: thousand times, ladies, you know fifteen thousand at one time
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  Speaker 1: he takes his shirt off and going I never looked
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  Speaker 1: like that. Take And I would tell you some take
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  Speaker 1: his acting in here. Take his acting. Take is good.
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  Speaker 1: Takes good and you know what so funny. I was
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  Speaker 1: talking to Take the other day. He hasn't he hasn't
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  Speaker 1: seen the movie a lot of times. You know, we
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  Speaker 1: get to see the movie, but you know before obviously
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  Speaker 1: as a producer, I do. But Tank hadn't seen the movie.
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  Speaker 1: I said, Tank, you're gonna hate you. You all hate
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  Speaker 1: you when you see you. I'm gonna tell you that
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  Speaker 1: shirt I don't know. I don't know, Sean, because when
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  Speaker 1: Take shows up and me's Tiffany for the first time
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  Speaker 1: and I went by, boy, that was a smooth moves.
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  Speaker 1: He laying on her right now, but it was it
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  Speaker 1: was I would be honest with you. We talked about lust.
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  Speaker 1: From talking to Sean Robins she's an executive to do,
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  Speaker 1: so just do Lifetime series uh seven seven deadly sins
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  Speaker 1: in the first episode that's gonna ad in the movie
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  Speaker 1: series is called Lost. IM gonna go and talking envy
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  Speaker 1: in a minute. But I just Cury did an amazing job.
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  Speaker 1: I mean the subtleties. You know. You know, I've been
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  Speaker 1: this industry a long time, so I get to see subtleties.
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  Speaker 1: I could say, who can act, who can't act. I've
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  Speaker 1: been blessed to work with Oscar Winners and Jamie Fox
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  Speaker 1: and Monique as Oscar Winners. So I've been around Hope
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  Speaker 1: for Steve Harvey a lot of town. You know, in
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  Speaker 1: my background, I loved her subtleties. I love her bills.
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  Speaker 1: He has a great career as an actress. We know
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  Speaker 1: what you can do as a single, great career. Tank.
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  Speaker 1: When you came in as the lust as Law, he
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: was amazing. He was he was subtle, He was trouble.
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: You knew he was trouble when he walked, when he
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: opened the front door, when he opened the front door,
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: you know he was trouble. You knew he was a
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: he got landed first frame of the movie. You knew
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: it Like Okay, dude, you're gonna bring this to your house. Yeah.
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: That was Remember he was talking about people talking to
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: the screen. That was me gonna, okay, dude, you're gonna
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: bring this to your house. Really really not knowing that
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: your your wife is uh in mental discussions about her
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: life and she was the right man and she's doing
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: the right things in bed and try other things and
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: all these things which gives lust avenues to make you
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: do wrong because it can't. It can't penetrate or it
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: can't it can't crumble h stability. It can't crumble a positivity.
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: And so that's why I love this, this whole concept
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: and this whole idea of developing this a movie that
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: shows you relatable. And I'm talking about this might be
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: an all like cash but the but the but the
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: projects are so relatable to anybody. Yes, it's universal, you know,
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: it's it's you know, the themes are universal. Um, you know,
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: and that's what we wanted to accomplish and that you know,
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: and as we're having these conversations about diversity and inclusion
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: in Hollywood today, you know, we you don't have to
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: cast black folks just when it's a black move like
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: our themes. We go through the same things the other
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: people go through, and so that's that's what I love, um,
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: is this these themes are definitely universal. Anybody can relate
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: to what Tiffany is going. And that's what I really
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: loved about it. And that's really what's kind of knowing
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: what what people in general have pigeonholed African American talent producers, writers, directors,
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: saying that only black people want to watch your projects,
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: you know, and we're seeing that on streaming platforms where
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: popular projects of going number one and they all black
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: casts or the cast of a dominant thing. And that's
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: why I really loved about this particular series of movies
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: that I saw back to back. Now let's go to Envy.
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: Envy plays on it, because that's because the first one
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: is more adult, which I thought was beautiful. Now you're
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: taking on a young character lead and envy and this
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: is uh, actually I want to say the name, so
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: ran correct, that's correct, thank you. Yeah, she's she's fantastic.
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: She is really great. And when I first saw her
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: her real, her audition real, um, I was like, gosh,
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: you know, she's really she really pops on screen she's
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: very fantastic. She was she was on just came off Power.
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: UM and I were really lucky, uh to to have
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: found her. Um or we're looked really lucky that she
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: was available for this project because she just really brings
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: it home. Um and it's uh, she she's she's really
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: a dynamic well, you know the thing. And I got
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: to could see a rough cut of that, you know,
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: you know, I got to see it, so I still
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: but it was a beautiful presentation of what you guys
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: are gonna put on the main screen. Some critics were missing,
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: That's all I'm saying. But everything that was in place,
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: and the thing about it when I really got to
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: see her act, you know, I saw On the Empire
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: and all that stuff, so familiar with her singing and
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: acting talents. But this was a ranging project, you know.
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: And then you brought in Candice was Candid Burros, who
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: I loved from Real Housewives, and then DC Young Fly
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: was also here playing a little Meani. He plays a
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: little MENI y'all, he's not telling jokes in here, but
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: he's in a little Meani little hand meaning. And then
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: of course my boy Clifton Pole, he's in both movies.
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: He's a both boy. He can double checks young man,
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: Old Man, Old Man. Do you remember when Clifton Powell
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: was on Rock Yes, yes, yes, Clift of all, our
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: relationship goes all the way back to two thousand, So
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: I met you in Clifton Prober at the same time
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: because that's when we did the Steve Hard Morning Show.
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: That's when you're not really connecting in two thousands. So
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: clip Pile, I made him used to come into the
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: morning show. We should meet, and I was to always
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: admire his professionalism, his being he was doing, always doing
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: major roles and always becoming the star we always felt
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: he could be. And it's just to see him and
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: because he plays an older character and lust and he
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: plays a person more his age and envy, and it's
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: really an important role too, because that's the that's the
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: the minister side of the movie. That that here's always
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: a moment in each movie that you're in the church
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: and you get to hear a message, but it's not
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: a message, just beating you over the head. That's what
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: I loved about this show. I know exactly what you're
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: trying to do and you're accomplishing it, but you're not
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: making me feel like I gotta go pick up the
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: Bible to understand that this is a relatable night right.
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: And I just love Clifton Pile so much. He brings
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: a thousand percent uh to work every single day, and
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: I'm so glad that he is part of the project.
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: You know, Candy Burris, who is she is like building
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: her her acting resume and you know, n for me, um,
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: I as we were looking over the different actors and
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: actresses for lust and envy, you know, as an executive producer,
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: it's so wonderful for me to be able to be
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: part of the decision making process that can give uh,
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: these actors these opportunities, um, you know and help them
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: be even reach their next goal. So I that's what
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: I that's one of the things I really enjoy about
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: being a decision maker, being an executive producer because for me,
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: it's about providing opportunities to people who uh you know
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: who listen. Hollywood is still a very tough place, a
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: very very tough place for you know, people of color,
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: and to be able to help them along in their
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: journey is so satisfying for me. You know, I've been there,
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: I've been on a side of casting people. When I
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: look in my career, I look at the Gabriel Unions,
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: the Kim Witling's cannons. You know, so many actors I
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: see there acting the day when they were care Robinson,
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: that's what you're talking about. You know, you're in the
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: room and you are in a position to That's what
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: I love. What will Packers doing? You know, he's a
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: he's a game changer and Sean you you're becoming a
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: game changer. And you know the power really is behind
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: that camera, you know, in the writer's room and then
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: the directors, you know, talking to the executives who come
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: down and really only speak to you unless the actor
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: or actress is powerful they want to speak to them.
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: They only speak to the executive producers, the showrunners. They
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: may talk to the writers if it's in the writer
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: room format. But you get the primary notes, Bishop tv J.
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: Get the primary notes and hearing they come from me.
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: What did you realize about taking on the project like this?
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: And I know it put a smile on your face
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: when it when it, when it, you know you have
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: two stages of the smile. First of all, she said
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: yes to your option. In then Bishop TJ. Called you
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: said you want to be in the project. Then you
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: finally casting it and now it's about the air and
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: you're being interviewed national. I'm just one of many platforms
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: and an interviewing you to promote this. Where are you
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: ready emotionally with this project? Well, you know, here's the thing, Um,
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: when when TV Jake's when when you know TV Jake's
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: and and Derrick Williams called me and said, hey, do
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: you have this project? Um? You know that was definitely
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: a you know, a game changer for me because I
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: had this project that was that I had shopped around
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: town and that I owned, and then I was shopping
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: around town and I had, UM, you know, it could
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: have been a different partner that I went with, but
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: I felt that, you know, partnering with with with you know,
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: Bishop Jake's what an extraordinary producer he is. And not
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: only that, um, but his brand is this right in
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: line with this this project. And so you know, for me,
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: one of the lessons was, you know, you want to
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: sometimes you just want to rush things and you want
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: to just go with, you know, whatever offer is presented
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: to you at first, but you really have to think
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: about who you're going to be in business with and
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: how you guys are gonna gel and does this partnership
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: work for the good of the project. And I felt
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: that this partnership definitely was perfect for this project. So um,
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: that was you know when you talk about putting a
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: smile on my face. You know, having this partnership with
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: him is extraordinary for me. And as I look at
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: other projects that I'm doing and being careful about who
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: I choose as a partner, it's it's a I think
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: it's a lesson for for all of us. Don't rush it.
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: Be more intentional with your decisions. Well you know, Um,
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: you've always been intentional. I know when we this project.
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: The reason I just really enjoyed talking about it because
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: I know there's always a journey and just to see
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: the transformation in you, you know when I said this
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: is a good thing. You know. You know Lincoln, I
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: just see, uh follow your motivation and follow your stories.
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: I follow you because you really personalize your life. You
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: put your life out there and to see this is
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: being a part of that story that you're now ready
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: to tell. I think it's amazing and I want to
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: just say congratulations to you. Two projects. You know I
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: want to talk about a couple of I'll bring you back.
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: On the show. We talk about naty day fiance and
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: like Jugger not but that you know it's uh, do
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: you know ninety day fiance is seen in a hundred
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: and sixty eight countries and territories. That's I love you
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: for a minute. I I just said, do you know
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: that fiance is seen in a hundred and sixty eight
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: countries and territories? Well, you know that it was big
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: in my house, and big my house, big in my office,
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: is big everywhere. Because I can't understand how people do it.
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: And you sit up there interviewing these people like the
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: normal people though that would beginning me. You mean, like
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: you at these people like you're talking to Tom Hanks
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: or somebody normal or something celebrity, and they'd be sitting
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: up there like they got it going on. How do
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: you sustain such credibility interviewing these people because you're wonderful,
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: you got your right makeup right? These people crazy, they're crazy. Listen,
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: here's here's the flip side of that. The show tells you.
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: How about the when we talk about universal things, the
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: universal theme of wanting to be loved everyone can identify
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: with that, and that is why the show is so
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: popular because everybody can identify with how far do I
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: go to find love? So yes, so I as the
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: host of the show, I have that empathy for everybody
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: that I talked to. Well, you know, first of all,
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: it's first of all, you're fantastic and it was just
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: just what I love about your life. Right now, you
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: still with that allows you to stay in front of
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: the camera, and then you have these upcoming projects on
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: Lifetime and it's gonna be more. I'm just gonna let
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: you know, Uh, Lifetime has found something with this series
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: is right in line. Is uh female centric. The storylines
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: were fantastic. The more breakout stars are being developed under
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: your umbrella, you know, I see you. I'm just gonna
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: throw this little title on ya. I see you about
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: to do what Will Packer did several years ago. You're
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: gonna You're gonna start doing it as well. That's what
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: eiver Don is doing, that's so many other people Shonda
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: Rhimes is doing right now, You're going to put that
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: hand on and run with it. Because what I saw
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: and watching these two series was quality work. Stories. I
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: want to share stories. I want to tell family stories,
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: stories that can change people's lives. That's key, right there,
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: change people's lives and make their lives better. Fan congratulations
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: Sean Robinson, thank you, thank you so much. I really
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: appreciate it. And uh, you know, from from your mouth
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: to God's ears, Um, I hope that. Uh it's wonder
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: New chapters are scary, Rashaan, as you know, but they
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: can be so fulfilling. Um when you really like sit down,
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: think about what it is you have to offer. A
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: lot of times we get pigeonholed. We think that, you know,
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: I've been doing this for a long time. I can't
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: do anything else. But then when you start to like
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: look at you know, you know, step out on faith,
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: but also be prepared, educate yourself, gain more knowledge about
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: a particular area, talk to people who are in those fields.
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: You know, there are so many more opportunities that you
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: can take advantage of. Well. I know that for a
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: fact that when I stepped away from manager Steve Harvey,
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: it was it was a lot uncertainty. And you know,
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: because a lot of people only know you from what
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: you did previously, A lot of people don't know you
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: from what you did on access Hollywood, and so that
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: compete and hold you and the relationships you have really
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: don't allow you to move forward. But you're not only
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: moving forward, you're running. You're running. In fact, you're driving
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: forward in a very fancy car. It's called like you.
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: I appreciate you for coming on and like I'm sure
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna see he's post out there. Of course I'm
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: putting my news letter, putting on social media. I'm gonna
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: tell everybody to watch it. More importantly, everybody's gonna watch
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: my podcast as was here my podcast, And thank you
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: for coming on the show again. Okay, can I ask
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: you one favor? Um? Can you make me a sweeper
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: tato pie? Yes? I can. In fact, you know some
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna text your picture and I'm gonna make you one.
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: And in fact, I'm gonna be ou in l A
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: in like three weeks and we're gonna connect. Okay seriously,
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: and I got an office down here in Atlanta. You
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: just open up a cannon worms. I am going to
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: make you a sweeper tat. In fact, when I make it, Sean,
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: you'll be standing right next to me. Okay, perfect deal,
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: deal a certain and I gotta have one of those.
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: I want to show you some stuff because because you
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: shot the movies down here in Atlanta, right did shoot
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: them in the Okay, when you come back down here
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: for the next series and you're coming back down here,
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: I'm just gonna let you know you the movies are
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: that good. Lust and envy are that good. When you
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: come back down there, we will connect. I gonna bring
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  Speaker 1: you by the office. We're gonna eat, talk and do
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: some private conversations about the next put it on podcast
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: doing stuff because I'm launching on my old TV show
• 33:25
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