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Tik Tok Flooded with Bin Laden Propaganda, Infrastructure Money Tied to Woke Initiatives, & Education Changing Country Forever the Week In Review · The Ben Ferguson Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Welcome.
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  Speaker 2: It's Verdict with Centater, Ted Cruz Weekend Review, Ben Ferguson
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  Speaker 2: with you and I hope you had a fabulous time
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  Speaker 2: with your family over Thanksgiving. Now Here are some of
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  Speaker 2: the stories that you may have missed this week that
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  Speaker 2: we talked about. First, up, China flooding, TikTok with Osama
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  Speaker 2: Bin laden propaganda, getting young people to read his letter
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  Speaker 2: to America and then advocate for Osama Bin Lauden's viewpoint,
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  Speaker 2: how are we allowing this to happen in this country
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  Speaker 2: and around the world. We're going to dive into that
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  Speaker 2: and what this means with China trying to control the
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  Speaker 2: minds of young people all over the world. Up next, infrastructure.
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  Speaker 2: If you ask voters, it's something they're all in favor
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  Speaker 2: of better roads. But what happens when the roads turn
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  Speaker 2: into woke agenda items. Well, billions and billions of your
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  Speaker 2: tax dollars that were meant for infrastructure projects are now
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  Speaker 2: tied to woke initiative and we'll expose that. And finally,
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  Speaker 2: education is changing in this country, and that education that
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  Speaker 2: has nothing to do with reading, writing, and arithmetic may
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  Speaker 2: be changing this nation forever. The center will break down
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  Speaker 2: that warning for you as well. It's the Week in
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  Speaker 2: Review and it starts right now. This goes into something
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  Speaker 2: else that I have to bring up, and it's something
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  Speaker 2: that we've seen on TikTok. Now, if you don't know
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  Speaker 2: what TikTok is, we've talked about this before, quick recap.
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  Speaker 2: It's an app that a ton of people use, especially
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  Speaker 2: young people, especially young people, and China uses it to
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  Speaker 2: influence young people. Specifically, we saw an unbelievable uptick on TikTok.
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  Speaker 2: And there's data to back this up of pro Hamas videos,
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  Speaker 2: pro Hamas propaganda, anti Israel propaganda, pro Palestinian propaganda.
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  Speaker 3: Harvard Pole Audi Harvard Pole recently came out that said
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  Speaker 3: of Americans eighteen to twenty four, fifty one percent believe
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  Speaker 3: that Hamas's atrocities could be justified, fifty one percent more
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  Speaker 3: than half of young people. And TikTok is affirmatively pushing
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  Speaker 3: this Prohamas propaganda, this garbage to young people, and it
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  Speaker 3: has an enormous negative influence. And I want to put
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  Speaker 3: on now one video from TikTok that went viral this
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  Speaker 3: week that shows just how.
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  Speaker 2: Cancerous and it deals with Osama bin Laden so if
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  Speaker 2: you understand the context of this, there was and this
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  Speaker 2: clearly is propaganda to meant to influence. And there is
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  Speaker 2: a letter that Osama bin Laden had put out before
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  Speaker 2: it was I guess technically right before nine to eleven,
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  Speaker 2: or justifying the nine to eleven attacks and explaining his
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  Speaker 2: thoughts on why he was doing nine to eleven. This letter,
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  Speaker 2: decades later has has gone viral only on TikTok. Go
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  Speaker 2: back to propaganda of China to influence young people to
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  Speaker 2: believe that somehow Osama bin Lauden was justified in his
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  Speaker 2: nine to eleven attack the same way that they're justifying
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  Speaker 2: Hamas's attack on Israel. And this is what Americans are
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  Speaker 2: saying about reading this letter for the first time on TikTok.
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  Speaker 3: Look, so it starts with a woman me when I
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  Speaker 3: got the news in twenty eleven that we got him,
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  Speaker 3: and she's celebrating. Then twenty twenty three reading his letter
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  Speaker 3: to America knowing he was right.
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  Speaker 2: Oh something, lad, that's what they're talking about.
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  Speaker 4: Actually, before you even read the letter, I did want
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  Speaker 4: to mention in reading the letter, I could only think
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  Speaker 4: of this tweet that I saw the other day under
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  Speaker 4: settler colonialism, any kind of resistance is branded as terrorist
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  Speaker 4: because the only acceptable violence is violenced by the occupier.
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  Speaker 4: So please keep that in mind when reading the Another young.
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  Speaker 5: Person, we really need to stop pan taxes because they
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  Speaker 5: ain't doing nothing but messing up everybody else. And America
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  Speaker 5: is the bully. And it's sad because they have brainwashed
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  Speaker 5: us to think that we was the best country in
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  Speaker 5: the plant on the planet, when in reality we're the
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  Speaker 5: worst country in the planet.
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  Speaker 6: It is just insane because this letter is so well
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  Speaker 6: written and so reasonably structured in an argument, like you
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  Speaker 6: got to present your findings. You gotta you know, you
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  Speaker 6: gotta state your cause all that, Like everything he said
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  Speaker 6: was valid.
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  Speaker 2: Everything Osama bin Laden said was valid. The guy before
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  Speaker 2: saying we need to stop paying taxes because Osama bin
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  Speaker 2: Laden was right.
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  Speaker 1: And where the worst country.
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  Speaker 2: In the world hashtag free Palestine. It's at the bottom.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know if you noticed that.
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  Speaker 1: Look, look, this is all of these are young people.
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  Speaker 1: This is on TikTok.
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  Speaker 3: These young people are profoundly ignorant. They don't know anything,
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  Speaker 3: but they're also TikTok is deliberately curated. The algorithm is controlled.
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  Speaker 3: The recommendation algorithm is controlled by the Chinese Communist Party.
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  Speaker 3: I mentioned the last classified briefing I went to this week,
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  Speaker 3: ben So.
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  Speaker 1: The topic of it.
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  Speaker 3: Was social media and disinformation, and so included a number
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  Speaker 3: of folks from the government. This was a joint classified
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  Speaker 3: briefing with the Commerce Committee where I'm the ranking Republican
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  Speaker 3: and the Intelligence Committee. So we met together, and I
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  Speaker 3: can't tell you what they said, but I can't tell
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  Speaker 3: you the questions I asked because the questions I asked
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  Speaker 3: are not classified. And the question I asked, I said,
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  Speaker 3: what evidence do we have specifically that TikTok is affirmatively
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  Speaker 3: and deliberately pushing pro Hamas propaganda. We know that young
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  Speaker 3: people are moving dramatically in the direction of Hamas and
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  Speaker 3: to what extent is the CCP affirmatively doing that? And
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  Speaker 3: I'll tell you something again. I can't give you their answers,
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  Speaker 3: but I will tell you a data point, which is
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  Speaker 3: TikTok defends itself by saying it keeps us customer data
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  Speaker 3: here in the United States, not in China, although under
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  Speaker 3: its terms of service the CCP has a right to
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  Speaker 3: access them at any time. You know what it doesn't
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  Speaker 3: keep here in the United States, it's recommendation algorithm. So
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  Speaker 3: the way TikTok operates, you're looking at TikTok, you watch
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  Speaker 3: a video, and then it suggests to you, hey, Ben,
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  Speaker 3: you would like this video.
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  Speaker 2: Based on what you've seen before. So if you're looking
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  Speaker 2: at golf videos or tennis videos or football videos, you
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  Speaker 2: would assume they would keep you in the same type
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  Speaker 2: of algorithm.
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  Speaker 3: Well, a recommendation algorithm is one of the most potent
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  Speaker 3: tools social media has to drive content, to suppress content,
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  Speaker 3: or to drive content, And if you're engaged in propaganda,
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  Speaker 3: the recommendation algorithm is your most potent tool for it.
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  Speaker 3: The recommendation algorithm is not housed in the United States,
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  Speaker 3: It's housed in China, and China just recently passed a
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  Speaker 3: law that defined TikTok's recommendation algorithm as a quote.
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  Speaker 1: National asset makes sense.
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  Speaker 3: It is an asset of China, and they have developed
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  Speaker 3: a global propaganda tool that in particular targets American young people.
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  Speaker 3: And so they can decide on any given day, what
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  Speaker 3: message do we want to put to young people. They
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  Speaker 3: can just on a Tuesday say let's just push messages
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  Speaker 3: that hurt American young people. So let's push to young
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  Speaker 3: girls and teenage girls body image problems and push anorexia
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  Speaker 3: and eating disorders, and let's push self harm, let's push cutting,
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  Speaker 3: let's push suicide, let's push drug use, let's push all
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  Speaker 3: sorts of things that will just hurt young people. And
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  Speaker 3: they do that tragically every day. But they can also
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  Speaker 3: decide politically, Okay, we don't want the United States exploring
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  Speaker 3: for oil and gas, so let's push Green New Deal
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  Speaker 3: garbage to tell them, go stop fracking, go stop this,
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  Speaker 3: go stop this. Be dependent on Iran, be dependent on Russia,
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  Speaker 3: be dependent on Venezuela, be dependent on our enemies for
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  Speaker 3: oil and gas. They can push that message to young people,
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  Speaker 3: or if they just want to push pro hamas propaganda,
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  Speaker 3: they can. In this instance, you have young people.
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  Speaker 2: And this went viral to a level of millions and
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  Speaker 2: millions and millions of millions of impressions.
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  Speaker 1: Over fourteen million last I saw.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's just people that were posting their own
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  Speaker 2: videos after reading this letter that came out of nowhere
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  Speaker 2: from two thousand and one from Osama bin Laden, and
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  Speaker 2: the majority of it was all positive towards Usama.
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  Speaker 1: Can you got to understand why I mean, this is something.
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  Speaker 3: As you know, I'm at the tail end of a
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  Speaker 3: two week book tour, so I've been I think I've
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  Speaker 3: done seventy seven media interviews in the last two weeks
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  Speaker 3: on the new book on Woke. I've been talking about
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  Speaker 3: this a lot because particularly people of the left are
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  Speaker 3: confused why is there such vicious anti semitism among the left?
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  Speaker 3: And I want to let's let's pull this up again.
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  Speaker 3: I want to pull it up and freeze at midway
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  Speaker 3: through because it really does explain it profoundly. Okay, so
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  Speaker 3: this is the first woman on the second person. Just
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  Speaker 3: freeze it when the second person comes up. Okay, freeze
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  Speaker 3: it right here.
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  Speaker 1: All right.
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  Speaker 3: So this is a TikToker and it's kind of a
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  Speaker 3: young hipster wearing like, I don't know, a shower cap
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  Speaker 3: of some kind with pearl stuff.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. But this is important.
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  Speaker 3: So I've been explaining and the book Unwoke explains this
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  Speaker 3: at depth. So Marxism is the doctrine enunciated by Karl
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  Speaker 3: Marx and the Communist Manifesto that explains views the world
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  Speaker 3: as a fundamental conflict between oppressors and victims. Marx put
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  Speaker 3: it in socioeconomic terms, So the oppressors were the owners
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  Speaker 3: of capital, the victims were the proletariat, the working men
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  Speaker 3: and women. The solution Marks advocated was violent revolution by
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  Speaker 3: the proletariat overthrowing the oppressors. I describe in the book
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  Speaker 3: Unwoke how Marxist infiltrated the universities in the nineteen sixties
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  Speaker 3: and seventies, and then that doctrine mutated. It mutated to
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  Speaker 3: critical race theory, which has the same basic frame, the
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  Speaker 3: Marxist frame of a pressor and victim, but instead of
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  Speaker 3: socioeconomic it's race. So there are presser races and victim races.
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  Speaker 3: I describe how it mutated to be gender and gender
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  Speaker 3: identity and sexual orientation, same idea of a pressor and victim,
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  Speaker 3: and the idea is violence revolution. Anything is justified if
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  Speaker 3: it is the victim overthrowing the oppressor. Now, this TikTok video,
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  Speaker 3: the text of the tweet he has says, under settler colonialism,
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  Speaker 3: any kind of resistance is branded as terrorism because the
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  Speaker 3: only acceptable violence is violenced by the occupier. That is
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  Speaker 3: straight up Marxism. And it is explaining why, as I
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  Speaker 3: told this left leaning tech executive, the reason the left
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  Speaker 3: is celebrating Hamas. Is they have defined Jews as oppressors,
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  Speaker 3: they have defined Hamas as victims, and so they're in
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  Speaker 3: favor of violence by the victims against the impressors. And
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  Speaker 3: that includes mass murder. That includes targeting civilians. That includes
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  Speaker 3: murdering elderly people. That includes raping women and little girls
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  Speaker 3: in the public streets, that includes slaughtering infants. That includes,
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  Speaker 3: as we discussed, literally putting a baby in an oven, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: and raping that baby's mother while the baby cooks to
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  Speaker 3: death and the mother is being raped and listening to
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  Speaker 3: her infant die in an oven, being cooked to death. Now,
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  Speaker 3: that is unmitigated evil. That is Nazi like. That is
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  Speaker 3: a level of grotesque evil that.
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  Speaker 1: Defies words.
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  Speaker 3: And yet to the cultural Marxist and to these young
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  Speaker 3: idealistic imbeciles, they're cheering for the terrorist. Why because it
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  Speaker 3: says here, well, under settler colonialism, and mind you, in
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  Speaker 3: their mind it's the Jews that are the bad settler colonialists.
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  Speaker 3: Any kind of resistance, so you know, baking a baby
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  Speaker 3: in and oven, that's a kind of resistance is branded
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  Speaker 3: as terrorist. Well, no, terrorism is targeting civilians. I've got
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  Speaker 3: to say slaughtering infants qualifies as terrorism because the only
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  Speaker 3: acceptable violence is violence by the occupier. The reason these
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  Speaker 3: young people are so susceptible to this TikTok propaganda is
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  Speaker 3: because cultural Marxism has been taught to them from the womb.
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  Speaker 3: Has been taught to them in kindergarten, first, second, third, fourth,
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  Speaker 3: fifth grade, all the way through school, has been taught
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  Speaker 3: to them in college, has been taught to them through
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  Speaker 3: social media, has been taught to them through entertainment. They're told,
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  Speaker 3: once we say someone is the victim and someone is
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  Speaker 3: the oppressor, we cheer for violence, for any horrible evil
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  Speaker 3: against the oppressor, because that's the Marxist revolution we support.
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  Speaker 2: Now, if you want to hear the rest of this conversation,
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  Speaker 2: you can go back and listen to the full podcast
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  Speaker 2: from earlier this week. Now onto story number two, Biden's
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  Speaker 2: infrastructure spending has now gone woke. It's a great moment
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  Speaker 2: to pause and remind people. If you're Black Friday shopping,
• 13:35
  Speaker 2: grab the Center's new book, Unwoke. You can grab it.
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  Speaker 2: It's a best seller. You can get on Amazon or
• 13:40
  Speaker 2: wherever you get your books, unless you're at a bookstore
• 13:43
  Speaker 2: in California apparently they don't like it very much out
• 13:45
  Speaker 2: there in California in the bookstores, but you can grab
• 13:47
  Speaker 2: it wherever you get your books. I love this part
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  Speaker 2: of censorship. By the way, center, there are quite a
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  Speaker 2: few bookstores. I've actually talked to friends who have gone
• 13:56
  Speaker 2: into bookstores. Your book's a bestseller, and if you're on
• 13:59
  Speaker 2: the wrong part of the country, in a more liberal,
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  Speaker 2: woke part of the country, there's a very good chance
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  Speaker 2: you cannot find a hard copy of your book in
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  Speaker 2: a bookstore, which is maddening to me, especially since it
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  Speaker 2: is a bestseller.
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  Speaker 3: Well, it is one of the many examples how corporate
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  Speaker 3: America is woke.
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  Speaker 1: As you know.
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  Speaker 3: Two weeks ago, I was in LA to shoot Bill
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  Speaker 3: Maher and talk about the book, and I actually met
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  Speaker 3: some friends in LA who went to try to buy
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  Speaker 3: the book. And they went to a Barnes and Noble
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  Speaker 3: in LA and they didn't have a single copy of
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  Speaker 3: the book there, and they asked them, okay, search the system,
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  Speaker 3: and they it turned out there was not one copy
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  Speaker 3: of my book. This is what they were told in
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  Speaker 3: any Barnes and Noble in the entire city of Los Angeles.
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  Speaker 3: And they had to actually drive the Long Beach, which
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  Speaker 3: they did to get several copies of the books, because
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  Speaker 3: it was only the Barnes and Noble in Long Beach
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  Speaker 3: that had the copies, and throughout LA they weren't there. Sadly,
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  Speaker 3: we're hearing we're hearing reports of that. There was also
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  Speaker 3: a letter to the editor this past week in the
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  Speaker 3: Dallas Morning News complaining that the big box stores, which
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  Speaker 3: have lots and lots of books of other books that
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  Speaker 3: you can't find Unwoke, even though, as you noted, is
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  Speaker 3: it is a best seller, was at the top of
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  Speaker 3: the best seller list, and yet the major bricks and
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  Speaker 3: mortar retail outlets are very reluctant to carry it. And
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  Speaker 3: when they do carry it, they certainly don't put it
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  Speaker 3: out on the table in front. They put it off
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  Speaker 3: in the back. The good news is you can order
• 15:26
  Speaker 3: it online, so I would encourage you go online and
• 15:29
  Speaker 3: order it. And you mentioned what came out this past week,
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  Speaker 3: and what came out this past week also is is
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  Speaker 3: racist roads and woke infrastructure, which may sound absurd, but
• 15:42
  Speaker 3: it's something I discuss at considerable length in the book Unwoke,
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  Speaker 3: and in June, Transportation Secretary Pete Bootage edge announced that
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  Speaker 3: the Department of Transportation it started accepting applications for the
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  Speaker 3: National Infrastructure Project Assistance, Infrastructure for Rebuilding America, and the
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  Speaker 3: Rural Surface Transportation Grant programs. These three programs together received
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  Speaker 3: five point six billion dollars under the so called Infrastructure
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  Speaker 3: Investment and Jobs Act, and the Department of Transportation.
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  Speaker 1: Under bootage Edge.
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  Speaker 3: Said the grants that would be awarded would support quote
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  Speaker 3: transformational infrastructure projects across the nation. But the Notice of
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  Speaker 3: funding Opportunity issued states that recipients must broadly address quote
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  Speaker 3: equity and climate concerns. And further, it says, quote projects
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  Speaker 3: that have not sufficiently considered the equity and barriers to
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  Speaker 3: opportunity in their planning as determined by the Department, will
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  Speaker 3: be required to do so before receiving funds for construction.
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  Speaker 3: Quote projects that have not sufficiently considered climate change and
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  Speaker 3: environmental justice in their planning as determined by the Department,
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  Speaker 3: will be required to do so before receiving funds for construction. Now,
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  Speaker 3: mind you, what they're saying is if you're actually building roads,
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  Speaker 3: if you're actually building freeways, then that is not sufficient.
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  Speaker 3: And in fact, Pete buddhage Edge made news in twenty
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  Speaker 3: twenty one when he said, quote there is racism physically
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  Speaker 3: built into some of our highways. Now, now that is idiotic.
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  Speaker 3: And I would note that the DOT grants also additionally
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  Speaker 3: target so DOT policies frame road building. Here's what they
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  Speaker 3: call roadbuilding, quote increasing automobile dependence. And so they condemn
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  Speaker 3: highway expansion projects that don't involve electric vehicle charging stations
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  Speaker 3: or bike lane. So it is Remember there was a
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  Speaker 3: lot of hooplaw over all the money to be spent
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  Speaker 3: on infrastructure and roads and bridges.
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Well, it.
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  Speaker 3: Turns out Joe Biden and Kamala Harrison Pete boodhah Edge
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  Speaker 3: don't actually want roads and bridges. Instead, they have a
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  Speaker 3: woke agenda to Here's the good news, which is that
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  Speaker 3: that I sent I sent a request for a determination
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  Speaker 3: as to whether this announcement constitutes a rule and receive
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  Speaker 3: that determination, which means that it is subject to being
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  Speaker 3: overturned by Congress by a simple majority vote. And so
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  Speaker 3: I intend to introduce that resolution of disapproval to force
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  Speaker 3: a vote in the Senate. Now Biden can veto that vote,
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  Speaker 3: but in the Senate, we're going to see if all
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  Speaker 3: the people who trumpeted the infrastructure programs support blocking them
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  Speaker 3: from going to roads and bridges on us they are
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  Speaker 3: sufficiently woke and fighting racist roads, whatever the hell that is.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, when people hear this and they hear racist roads
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  Speaker 2: as you just described it there, and you talk about
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  Speaker 2: billions upon billions of taxpayers dollars that's meant for these
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  Speaker 2: infrastructure projects that are now just being turned in these
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  Speaker 2: woken agenda items. How many members of Congress are behind
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  Speaker 2: this as well, because yes, it's a Biden administration initiative,
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  Speaker 2: but you still got to have some congress people behind you.
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  Speaker 2: Is this just the part of now where we are
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  Speaker 2: in politics where they look at you, they'll say this
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  Speaker 2: is for infrastructure, straight up lie to you, and then
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  Speaker 2: waste billions of your dollars on woke agenda items like this.
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  Speaker 3: Well, listen, a lot of the left wing Democrats in
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  Speaker 3: Congress are emphatically behind this, so that Bernie Sanders, the
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  Speaker 3: Elizabeth Warrens, THEOCS are cheering this on because this is
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  Speaker 3: the agenda they want. I will say, there are a
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  Speaker 3: number of Republicans who you know, are little bit like
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  Speaker 3: Charlie Brown with Lucy and the football. They listen to
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  Speaker 3: Democrats to say, okay, let's work together on something like
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  Speaker 3: roads and bridges. And the Republicans are like, oh yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: roads and bridges. Those sound really good, and they write
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  Speaker 3: into law funding for roads and bridges. Now, the left
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  Speaker 3: wing Democrats they're negotiating with know fully well, they're pulling
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  Speaker 3: the football away and Charlie Brown is landing on his ass.
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  Speaker 1: They know that.
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  Speaker 3: But these Republicans are just gullible and they fall into
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  Speaker 3: it over and over and over again. And if they
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  Speaker 3: weren't gullible, they would have written into the statute prohibitions
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  Speaker 3: on the Biden administration doing this because you and I
• 20:36
  Speaker 3: knew the Biden administration was going to do this, because
• 20:39
  Speaker 3: that's who they are. They are cultural Marxist. It's why
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  Speaker 3: I wrote the book Unwoke to lay out what it
• 20:47
  Speaker 3: means the radicals who have taken over our government. And
• 20:51
  Speaker 3: we have too many Republicans in Congress who are fundamentally naive,
• 20:56
  Speaker 3: and they just keep running and trying to kick that football,
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  Speaker 3: and the problem getting worse and worse as before.
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  Speaker 2: If you want to hear the rest of this conversation
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  Speaker 2: on this topic, you can go back and down the
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  Speaker 2: podcast from earlier this week to hear the entire thing.
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  Speaker 2: I want to get back to the big story number
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  Speaker 2: three of the week.
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  Speaker 1: You may have missed.
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  Speaker 2: You mentioned education and how it's easiest way to change
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  Speaker 2: a country in one generation. But there was also one
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  Speaker 2: of the things you said on page sixty four. It
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  Speaker 2: says how to fight back, he said. A few years ago,
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  Speaker 2: you walked into your daughter's bedroom and asked what she'd
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  Speaker 2: been learning about in school. She said she had been
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  Speaker 2: learning about Christopher Columbus, the quote unquote real story. I
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  Speaker 2: asked what that meant. For the next few minutes, I
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  Speaker 2: heard about the crimes of Christopher Columbus in minute detail.
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  Speaker 2: Every murdered Native American, transmitted disease, and stolen acre of
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  Speaker 2: lamb seemed to be accounted for. I heard that Columbus,
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  Speaker 2: who claimed the land for himself because his straight white
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  Speaker 2: privilege or something like that, had not actually discovered anything
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  Speaker 2: at all, but rather had landed on the shores of
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  Speaker 2: what would come to be known as America by accident.
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  Speaker 2: This quote unquote revolution, familiar to most adults in the
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  Speaker 2: United States, is something that American children encounter sooner or
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  Speaker 2: later in a textbook. Believing that they've accessed some secret,
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  Speaker 2: hidden knowledge that the grown ups don't want them to have.
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  Speaker 2: That moment, for me is the moment that terrifies me
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  Speaker 2: for our kids in this my kids generation, is that
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  Speaker 2: we have handed our children over to this school systems.
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  Speaker 2: And it's not just public schools now, it's private schools
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  Speaker 2: as well, who are indoctrinating them in this idea that
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  Speaker 2: America somehow was started on evil, bad motives and that
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  Speaker 2: you should not love this country, but you should be
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: ashamed of this country. And you had to deal with
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  Speaker 2: this with your own daughter.
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  Speaker 1: Look, that's exactly right.
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  Speaker 3: And the problem is this indoctrination is happening in every
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  Speaker 3: school in America. It's happening to every child in America.
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  Speaker 3: And one I describe part of the way that this
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  Speaker 3: book is all about how we fight back. But you know,
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  Speaker 3: as she was saying that Columbus was evil and racist
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  Speaker 3: and genocidal and terrible, and she hated Christopher Columbus, you know,
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  Speaker 3: I just just sat down in her bedroom and I
• 23:12
  Speaker 3: tried to have a conversation with her, and I said, look,
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  Speaker 3: I'm not deeply vested in making the argument that Christopher
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  Speaker 3: Columbus was some incredible hero. But I said, you know what,
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  Speaker 3: we do have a federal holiday named after him. Do
• 23:27
  Speaker 3: we typically name federal holidays after evil, racist, genocidal maniacs?
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  Speaker 3: Like might there be another side of the story? Is
• 23:38
  Speaker 3: there anything admirable about them? And she was not really
• 23:41
  Speaker 3: able to see much that was admirble. I said, well,
• 23:44
  Speaker 3: what do you think about getting in three rook rickety
• 23:47
  Speaker 3: wooden ships and leaving Europe and heading heading west when
• 23:53
  Speaker 3: you think you're falling off the edge of the world
• 23:56
  Speaker 3: to explore and discover I mean, I mean, is that spirit,
• 23:59
  Speaker 3: that intrepid spirit? Is that anything to be admired? And
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  Speaker 3: and And I said, secondly, look, it is true that
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  Speaker 3: Columbus and and and the man who traveled with him,
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  Speaker 3: that that that they carried some some germs that that
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  Speaker 3: that were that were new to to the to the
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  Speaker 3: western hemisphere, and that when they got here some of
• 24:19
  Speaker 3: the some of the Native Americans died from those germs. Now,
• 24:23
  Speaker 3: it's also true it was the fifteenth century. They didn't
• 24:25
  Speaker 3: know what a germ was, so they didn't know they
• 24:27
  Speaker 3: were carrying it. And and when you accuse him of
• 24:30
  Speaker 3: mass murder, does culpability matter? Does the fact that they
• 24:34
  Speaker 3: didn't know what a germ was, They had no idea
• 24:36
  Speaker 3: they were doing it. Is that at all relevant if
• 24:39
  Speaker 3: you're going to call him this evil, terrible murder. And
• 24:41
  Speaker 3: when I talk about in the book is not long
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  Speaker 3: thereafter Thanksgiving of that year, we were talking about Thanksgiving,
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  Speaker 3: and she and a friend of hers from school and
• 24:49
  Speaker 3: this is when they were in grade school, said said, likewise,
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  Speaker 3: oh Thanksgiving is is is terrible. It's when the pilgrims
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  Speaker 3: were oppressing that the Native Americans. And and you know
• 24:59
  Speaker 3: again I I made the argument, I think even more
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  Speaker 3: vigorously this time, and I said, listen, it is certainly
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  Speaker 3: right that the settlers that came to America, that they
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  Speaker 3: settled America, and they ultimately conquered America, and they they
• 25:15
  Speaker 3: committed some terrible acts to Native Americans. But if you
• 25:19
  Speaker 3: look at the history of humanity in every continent, every
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  Speaker 3: nation was acquired by conquest. And every time there's conquest,
• 25:28
  Speaker 3: you have one group of people who are conquering another
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  Speaker 3: group of people. By the way, in the United States,
• 25:33
  Speaker 3: before we were the United States, the Native Americans, one
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  Speaker 3: tribe conquered another conquered another conquered another. And you look
• 25:39
  Speaker 3: at Europe, you look at Asia. That's the history of humanity,
• 25:41
  Speaker 3: one group of people conquering another. And anytime you have conquest,
• 25:46
  Speaker 3: there are horrible things that happen. They're terrible things that
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  Speaker 3: are done. But I said, look in any war, there
• 25:53
  Speaker 3: were atrocities on both sides. And you know, I asked,
• 25:56
  Speaker 3: I asked my daughter. I said, you know, from whence
• 25:59
  Speaker 3: do you think think the verb to scalp was derived?
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  Speaker 3: The Native Americans did some horrible things to the settlers
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  Speaker 3: who came here also, And the connection that I made
• 26:13
  Speaker 3: for her, and that I make in the book is
• 26:16
  Speaker 3: those two discussions are interlinked and intertwined. Which is for
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  Speaker 3: all of the teachers and all of the professors and
• 26:24
  Speaker 3: all of the people advocating that Columbus was evil and
• 26:27
  Speaker 3: advocating that Thanksgiving is evil because the Pilgrims were stealing
• 26:30
  Speaker 3: from the Native Americans, it comes down to one antecedent question.
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  Speaker 3: Was the settlement of the New World a good thing
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  Speaker 3: or a bad thing? Was the formation of the United
• 26:43
  Speaker 3: States of America good or bad? And I'm not neutral
• 26:47
  Speaker 3: or ambivalent on that question. I think the United States
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: of America has been the greatest force for good of
• 26:53
  Speaker 3: any nation in the history of the world, that we
• 26:56
  Speaker 3: had produced more prosperity, more abundance. We have liberated more
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  Speaker 3: prisoners and captives. We have shed our blood and treasure
• 27:04
  Speaker 3: and tears fighting tyranny more than any nation in the
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  Speaker 3: history of the world. Do we have our flaws, yes,
• 27:11
  Speaker 3: of course. Do we have our problems, yes, of course.
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  Speaker 3: But America, I believe, like Reagan said, is a shining
• 27:17
  Speaker 3: city on a hill. And I want to make a
• 27:18
  Speaker 3: special request of our Verdict listeners. You guys are incredible,
• 27:22
  Speaker 3: You guys are patriots. You guys give me hope and
• 27:26
  Speaker 3: optimism in America. I want to ask every one.
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: Of you please.
• 27:31
  Speaker 3: Today, when you finished listening to this podcast, most of
• 27:35
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• 27:40
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• 28:00
  Speaker 3: the way, and and I wrote this book for the
• 28:05
  Speaker 3: same reason, Ben, that you and I do this podcast.
• 28:08
  Speaker 3: It is right now eleven o three pm on Tuesday,
• 28:11
  Speaker 3: Night podcast will come out early Wednesday morning. Why am
• 28:14
  Speaker 3: I sitting here at eleven o three? Why are you
• 28:15
  Speaker 3: sitting here at eleven o three? Because we care about this.
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  Speaker 3: We want we want our incredible listeners to be armed
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• 28:26
  Speaker 3: And this book is exactly in the same spirit. The
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  Speaker 3: book is I think, interesting and fun. It's not some
• 28:34
  Speaker 3: abstract academic treatise, but it's designed. When you read it,
• 28:38
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  Speaker 3: I do this podcast, it is we either persuade and
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• 29:07
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• 29:09
  Speaker 3: It's the exact same thing the podcast is about.
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