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Finding Growth Through Ancient Wisdom · The Living Conversation

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  Foreign.
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  I'm
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  Anthony
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  Wright
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  and
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  I
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  am
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  your
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  co
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  host
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  with.
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  I'm
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  Adam
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  Dietzs.
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  And
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  we
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  are
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  talking
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  about
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  the
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  living
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  conversation.
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  And
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  you
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  know,
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  you
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  were
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  talking
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  about
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  when
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  you
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  were
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  in
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  China
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  about
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  how
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  there
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  were
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  sometimes
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  people
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  that
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  would
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  complain
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  about
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  studying
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  Confucius
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  saying,
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  oh,
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  he's
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  this
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  old
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  guy.
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  Why
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  should
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  we
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  study?
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  And
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  you
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  brought
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  up
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  this
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  idea
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  of
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  the
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  sun
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  being
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  warm.
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  And
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  I
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  think
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  that's
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  really
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  the
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  intention
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  of
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  what
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  we're
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  doing
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  here
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  is
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  that
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  philosophy
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  is
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  always
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  warm.
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  Would
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  you
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  say
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  that's
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  true?
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  Yeah,
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  absolutely.
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  Say
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  more
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  about
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  that,
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  please.
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  It's
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  always
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  relevant
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  because
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  it's
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  always
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  good.
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  Philosophy
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  is
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  always
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  focused
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  on
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  life.
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  Life
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  is
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  always
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  changing.
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  But
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  good
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  philosophers
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  are
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  always
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  trying
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  to
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  help
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  us
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  learn
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  how
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  to
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  live
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  our
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  life.
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  Well,
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  that's
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  the
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  main.
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  That's
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  the
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  main
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  thing.
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  And
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  Confucius
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  himself,
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  even
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  himself,
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  he
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  said
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  that
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  he
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  didn't
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  teach
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  anything
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  new,
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  he
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  only
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  transmitted
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  the
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  wisdom
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  sage
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  kings,
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  the
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  ancient
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  sage
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  kings
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  who
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  governed
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  the
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  world
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  with
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  musicians
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  and
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  propriety,
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  the
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  simple
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  method.
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  And
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  he
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  just
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  wanted
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  to
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  bring
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  the
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  warmth
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  of
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  the
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  ancient
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  sage
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  king's
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  harmonious
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  culture
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  into
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  his
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  own
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  modern
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  times.
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  I
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  think
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  good
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  philosophers
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  take
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  what
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  is
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  best
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  from
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  all
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  the
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  past
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  and
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  try
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  to
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  transmit
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  it
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  into
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  our
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  times.
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  That's
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  in
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  daily
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  life.
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  And
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  you
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  know,
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  this
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  concept,
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  maybe
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  you
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  could
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  speak
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  to
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  this.
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  This
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  is
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  our
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  heaven's
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  destiny.
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  Right?
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  Yeah.
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  You
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  know,
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  and
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  I
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  really
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  appreciated
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  what
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  Dr.
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  Wu
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  had
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  to
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  say
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  about
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  this,
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  about
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  the
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  difference
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  between
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  fate
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  and
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  heaven's
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  destiny.
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  And
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  heaven's
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  destiny
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  was
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  something
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  that
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  you
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  turn
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  toward
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  rather
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  than
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  saying,
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  oh,
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  I'm
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  giving
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  up
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  because
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  my
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  life
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  is
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  faded
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  to
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  be
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  X
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  or
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  Y
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  or
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  Z
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  and
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  I
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  don't
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  have
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  any
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  control
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  and
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  no,
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  no
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  choice
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  but
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  heaven's
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  destiny
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  is
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  to
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  say,
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  okay,
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  what
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  seems
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  to
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  be
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  welcoming
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  me?
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  What
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  seems.
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  Where
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  do
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  I
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  go
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  to
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  grow
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  the
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  most?
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  And
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  sometimes
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  that's
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  hard
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  to
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  find
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  because
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  I
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  know
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  for
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  myself
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  I
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  wanted
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  to
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  go
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  back
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  into
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  what
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  I
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  thought
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  I
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  knew.
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  But
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  that's
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  where
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  the
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  shadow
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  stuff
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  was.
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  And
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  to
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  go
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  to
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  where
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  I
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  go
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  grow
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  the
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  most,
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  it's
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  what's
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  unfamiliar
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  to
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  me.
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  But
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  it
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  actually
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  turns
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  out
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  to
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  be
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  the
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  most
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  freeing,
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  actually.
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  So,
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  for
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  example,
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  I
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  wanted
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  to
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  be
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  a
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  partner
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  who
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  served,
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  and
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  that's
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  where
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  the
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  shadows
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  were.
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  But
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  where
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  I
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  go
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  to
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  grow
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  the
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  most
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  is
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  to
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  be
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  a
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  pioneer
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  in
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  into
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  transcendent
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  philosophy.
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  And
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  I've
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  been
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  having
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  a
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  great
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  time
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  about
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  that
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  instead
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  of
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  trying
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  to
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  crawl
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  back
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  into
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  being
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  a
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  partner.
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  And
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  certainly,
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  you
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  know,
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  I
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  very
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  much
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  appreciate
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  what
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  we're
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  doing
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  here
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  in
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  terms
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  of
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  public
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  philosophy.
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  And
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  yet
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  I
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  think
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  you
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  would
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  agree
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  with
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  Me,
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  this
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  is
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  an
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  invitation
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  for
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  everyone
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  to
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  begin
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  to
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  consider
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  more
• 3:15
  even
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  than
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  thinking,
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  but
• 3:16
  to
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  just
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  get
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  a
• 3:17
  sense
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  of
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  what
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  it
• 3:19
  is
• 3:19
  that
• 3:19
  you
• 3:20
  are
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  choosing
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  to
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  bring
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  that
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  to
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  mind.
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  You
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  know,
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  I
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  also
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  was
• 3:24
  looking
• 3:24
  at
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  this.
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  We
• 3:26
  talked
• 3:27
  before
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  we
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  started
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  the
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  show
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  about
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  these.
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  Abraham,
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  Abrahamic
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  Abraham,
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  who
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  was
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  the
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  founder
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  of
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  Christianity,
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  Judaism
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  and
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  Islam,
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  had
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  these
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  tenants
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  of
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  welcome
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  the
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  stranger,
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  care
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  for
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  the
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  poor,
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  the
• 3:42
  widow
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  and
• 3:42
  the
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  orphan.
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  Be
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  just
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  and
• 3:45
  fair
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  in
• 3:46
  your
• 3:46
  dealing
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  that
• 3:47
  life
• 3:47
  is
• 3:47
  special,
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  to
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  tell
• 3:50
  the
• 3:50
  truth,
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  to
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  love
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  thy
• 3:53
  neighbor,
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  to
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  be
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  humble
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  and
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  to
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  be.
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  For
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  to
• 4:01
  forgive
• 4:01
  others
• 4:02
  that
• 4:02
  make
• 4:03
  errors.
• 4:04
  And.
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  Oh,
• 4:07
  I
• 4:07
  just
• 4:07
  had
• 4:07
  a
• 4:08
  thought
• 4:08
  in
• 4:08
  it
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  and
• 4:08
  it.
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  And
• 4:10
  it
• 4:10
  escaped.
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  I.
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  Oh,
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  okay.
• 4:17
  It
• 4:17
  just
• 4:17
  came
• 4:18
  back.
• 4:18
  One
• 4:18
  of
• 4:18
  the
• 4:18
  things
• 4:19
  that
• 4:19
  really,
• 4:20
  in
• 4:20
  our
• 4:20
  study
• 4:20
  with
• 4:21
  Dr.
• 4:21
  Wu,
• 4:22
  he
• 4:22
  said
• 4:22
  you
• 4:22
  could
• 4:22
  break
• 4:23
  down
• 4:24
  Chinese
• 4:24
  philosophy
• 4:25
  into
• 4:26
  two
• 4:26
  terms.
• 4:27
  And
• 4:28
  you
• 4:28
  remember
• 4:28
  this?
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  Yeah,
• 4:30
  yeah,
• 4:30
  definitely.
• 4:31
  Sincerity
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  and
• 4:32
  humility.
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  Wow,
• 4:35
  that's
• 4:35
  easy.
• 4:36
  Yeah.
• 4:37
  But.
• 4:38
  Okay,
• 4:38
  well,
• 4:38
  what
• 4:39
  is
• 4:39
  sincerity?
• 4:40
  And.
• 4:41
  Well,
• 4:41
  what
• 4:41
  is
• 4:41
  humility?
• 4:42
  And
• 4:43
  I
• 4:43
  think
• 4:44
  didn't
• 4:45
  Dr.
• 4:45
  Wu
• 4:45
  do
• 4:46
  his
• 4:48
  dissertation
• 4:48
  on
• 4:49
  the
• 4:49
  study
• 4:49
  of
• 4:49
  sincerity,
• 4:50
  which.
• 4:50
  And
• 4:52
  to
• 4:52
  translate
• 4:53
  that
• 4:53
  sincerity
• 4:54
  is
• 4:54
  yang
• 4:55
  and
• 4:55
  humility
• 4:56
  is
• 4:56
  yin,
• 4:56
  and
• 4:57
  we
• 4:57
  need
• 4:57
  both.
• 4:58
  So
• 4:58
  didn't
• 4:59
  Dr.
• 4:59
  Wu
• 4:59
  study
• 4:59
  sincerity?
• 5:01
  Yeah,
• 5:01
  I
• 5:01
  think
• 5:01
  his.
• 5:01
  His
• 5:02
  Dr.
• 5:02
  Yi
• 5:03
  Wu
• 5:03
  is
• 5:03
  our
• 5:04
  mentor
• 5:04
  from
• 5:04
  the
• 5:04
  California
• 5:05
  Institute
• 5:05
  of
• 5:05
  Integral
• 5:06
  Studies.
• 5:06
  Yeah,
• 5:06
  he's
• 5:07
  a
• 5:07
  very
• 5:07
  prominent
• 5:08
  philosopher
• 5:09
  in.
• 5:09
  In
• 5:09
  Chinese
• 5:09
  language
• 5:10
  and
• 5:11
  in
• 5:11
  Taiwan.
• 5:11
  Yeah,
• 5:12
  in
• 5:12
  Taiwan.
• 5:13
  His
• 5:14
  dissertation,
• 5:14
  I
• 5:14
  think,
• 5:14
  was
• 5:15
  Sincerity
• 5:15
  in
• 5:15
  the
• 5:15
  Doctrine
• 5:16
  of
• 5:16
  the
• 5:16
  Mean.
• 5:16
  Oh.
• 5:18
  He.
• 5:18
  Actually,
• 5:19
  it's
• 5:19
  a
• 5:19
  long
• 5:19
  story.
• 5:19
  But,
• 5:20
  yes,
• 5:20
  sincerity
• 5:21
  and
• 5:22
  humility
• 5:22
  are
• 5:23
  his
• 5:23
  interpretation
• 5:24
  of
• 5:25
  Yang
• 5:25
  energy
• 5:25
  and
• 5:26
  yin
• 5:26
  energy.
• 5:27
  So
• 5:27
  we
• 5:27
  all
• 5:27
  know
• 5:27
  yin
• 5:28
  and
• 5:28
  Yang,
• 5:29
  but
• 5:29
  how
• 5:29
  to
• 5:29
  practice
• 5:30
  yin
• 5:30
  and
• 5:30
  Yang
• 5:30
  cannot
• 5:31
  be
• 5:31
  so
• 5:31
  abstract.
• 5:32
  So
• 5:33
  we've
• 5:33
  heard
• 5:33
  of
• 5:33
  yin
• 5:33
  and
• 5:33
  Yang.
• 5:34
  We've
• 5:34
  seen
• 5:34
  the
• 5:34
  Taoist
• 5:35
  symbol
• 5:35
  for
• 5:35
  yin
• 5:35
  and
• 5:35
  Yang.
• 5:36
  What
• 5:36
  is
• 5:37
  Yin
• 5:37
  and
• 5:37
  Yang?
• 5:38
  First
• 5:38
  of
• 5:38
  all,
• 5:38
  one
• 5:38
  of
• 5:38
  the
• 5:39
  biggest
• 5:39
  mistakes
• 5:39
  that
• 5:40
  the
• 5:40
  students
• 5:40
  have
• 5:41
  a
• 5:41
  hard
• 5:41
  time,
• 5:41
  that
• 5:42
  many
• 5:42
  people
• 5:42
  have
• 5:42
  a
• 5:43
  hard
• 5:43
  time
• 5:43
  getting
• 5:44
  past,
• 5:44
  is
• 5:44
  that
• 5:44
  it's
• 5:45
  not
• 5:45
  good
• 5:45
  and
• 5:45
  evil.
• 5:46
  It's
• 5:46
  just
• 5:47
  hard.
• 5:47
  Right.
• 5:48
  Harmony.
• 5:49
  Right.
• 5:49
  And
• 5:50
  I
• 5:50
  think
• 5:50
  Star
• 5:50
  wars
• 5:50
  is
• 5:50
  another
• 5:51
  example
• 5:51
  that
• 5:51
  kind
• 5:51
  of
• 5:51
  twisted
• 5:52
  this.
• 5:52
  The
• 5:52
  dark
• 5:52
  side
• 5:53
  is
• 5:53
  bad.
• 5:53
  But
• 5:54
  yin
• 5:54
  and
• 5:54
  Yang,
• 5:55
  in
• 5:55
  Chinese
• 5:55
  philosophy,
• 5:56
  yin
• 5:56
  energy
• 5:56
  is
• 5:56
  just
• 5:57
  the
• 5:57
  north
• 5:57
  face
• 5:57
  of
• 5:57
  the
• 5:57
  mountain.
• 5:58
  It's
• 5:58
  just.
• 5:59
  It's
• 5:59
  just
• 6:00
  fertile,
• 6:00
  is
• 6:01
  where
• 6:01
  everything
• 6:01
  can
• 6:01
  grow.
• 6:02
  So
• 6:03
  yin
• 6:03
  energy
• 6:03
  is
• 6:03
  very
• 6:04
  calm,
• 6:04
  very
• 6:05
  soft,
• 6:06
  dark,
• 6:06
  receptive.
• 6:07
  So
• 6:08
  we.
• 6:08
  And
• 6:08
  for
• 6:08
  how
• 6:09
  to
• 6:09
  practice,
• 6:09
  we
• 6:10
  use
• 6:10
  humility.
• 6:12
  We
• 6:12
  use
• 6:12
  humility.
• 6:12
  We're
• 6:13
  very
• 6:13
  humble.
• 6:14
  On
• 6:14
  the
• 6:15
  flip
• 6:15
  side,
• 6:16
  Yang
• 6:16
  energy
• 6:16
  is
• 6:17
  very
• 6:17
  strong,
• 6:17
  very
• 6:18
  active.
• 6:18
  It's
• 6:18
  the
• 6:18
  sun,
• 6:19
  it's
• 6:19
  growth,
• 6:20
  it's
• 6:21
  movement,
• 6:21
  it's
• 6:22
  excitement.
• 6:22
  So
• 6:23
  Yang
• 6:23
  energy
• 6:23
  for
• 6:23
  us
• 6:24
  is
• 6:24
  that
• 6:24
  we
• 6:24
  take
• 6:25
  our
• 6:26
  deepest
• 6:26
  mind,
• 6:27
  our
• 6:27
  heart,
• 6:27
  and
• 6:28
  we
• 6:28
  pull
• 6:28
  it
• 6:28
  out.
• 6:28
  And
• 6:28
  offer
• 6:29
  it
• 6:29
  into
• 6:29
  this
• 6:29
  world.
• 6:31
  We
• 6:31
  speak,
• 6:31
  we
• 6:32
  act,
• 6:32
  we
• 6:33
  move.
• 6:33
  This
• 6:34
  is
• 6:34
  how
• 6:35
  to
• 6:35
  use
• 6:35
  Yang
• 6:36
  energy
• 6:36
  for
• 6:36
  a
• 6:36
  human
• 6:36
  being
• 6:37
  is
• 6:37
  to
• 6:37
  use
• 6:37
  sincerity,
• 6:38
  be
• 6:39
  very
• 6:39
  sincere
• 6:39
  toward
• 6:40
  other
• 6:40
  people
• 6:40
  and
• 6:41
  act
• 6:41
  and
• 6:41
  move
• 6:41
  from
• 6:42
  that
• 6:42
  space.
• 6:44
  You
• 6:44
  know,
• 6:44
  one
• 6:44
  of
• 6:44
  the
• 6:44
  things
• 6:45
  also
• 6:46
  for
• 6:47
  all
• 6:47
  of
• 6:47
  us,
• 6:48
  for
• 6:48
  those
• 6:48
  of
• 6:48
  you
• 6:48
  who
• 6:48
  are
• 6:49
  watching
• 6:49
  now,
• 6:50
  and
• 6:51
  for
• 6:51
  us
• 6:52
  who
• 6:53
  are
• 6:53
  making
• 6:54
  this
• 6:54
  show,
• 6:55
  it's
• 6:55
  entirely
• 6:56
  dependent
• 6:56
  upon
• 6:57
  yin
• 6:57
  and
• 6:57
  yang.
• 6:58
  And
• 6:59
  I
• 6:59
  want
• 6:59
  to
• 6:59
  also
• 7:00
  then
• 7:00
  go
• 7:00
  back
• 7:01
  to.
• 7:02
  There
• 7:02
  was
• 7:02
  a
• 7:02
  philosopher
• 7:03
  of
• 7:03
  European
• 7:04
  philosopher
• 7:04
  named
• 7:05
  Leibniz,
• 7:06
  and
• 7:06
  he
• 7:07
  had
• 7:07
  Jesuit
• 7:08
  missionary
• 7:08
  friends
• 7:09
  who
• 7:09
  were
• 7:10
  very
• 7:10
  interested
• 7:11
  in
• 7:11
  the
• 7:11
  I
• 7:11
  Jing,
• 7:12
  which
• 7:12
  goes
• 7:12
  into
• 7:13
  yin
• 7:13
  and
• 7:13
  yang.
• 7:14
  And
• 7:15
  they
• 7:15
  sent
• 7:16
  him
• 7:16
  these
• 7:16
  texts
• 7:17
  of
• 7:17
  the
• 7:17
  I
• 7:17
  Ching.
• 7:18
  And
• 7:18
  he
• 7:19
  looked
• 7:19
  at
• 7:19
  this
• 7:19
  and
• 7:19
  he
• 7:19
  said,
• 7:20
  oh,
• 7:22
  1
• 7:23
  and
• 7:23
  0.
• 7:25
  So
• 7:25
  the
• 7:26
  Yi
• 7:26
  Ching
• 7:26
  is
• 7:27
  the
• 7:27
  basis
• 7:28
  of
• 7:28
  binary
• 7:29
  mathematics,
• 7:30
  which
• 7:30
  is
• 7:31
  what
• 7:31
  our
• 7:32
  computers
• 7:32
  use
• 7:33
  to
• 7:33
  this
• 7:33
  day.
• 7:34
  Yeah,
• 7:35
  we're
• 7:36
  immersed
• 7:36
  in
• 7:37
  sincerity
• 7:37
  and
• 7:38
  humility.
• 7:39
  So
• 7:40
  anyway,
• 7:41
  so
• 7:42
  the
• 7:42
  principle
• 7:43
  of
• 7:43
  the
• 7:43
  this
• 7:43
  world.
• 7:44
  So
• 7:44
  one
• 7:45
  reason
• 7:45
  why
• 7:45
  it
• 7:45
  works
• 7:45
  is
• 7:46
  because
• 7:46
  we
• 7:46
  follow
• 7:46
  the
• 7:46
  principle
• 7:46
  of
• 7:47
  this
• 7:47
  world.
• 7:47
  This
• 7:48
  is
• 7:48
  like,
• 7:48
  you
• 7:49
  know,
• 7:49
  this
• 7:50
  Dao
• 7:51
  from
• 7:51
  Taoism.
• 7:52
  Dao
• 7:52
  we
• 7:52
  can't
• 7:52
  talk
• 7:53
  about,
• 7:53
  but
• 7:53
  Dao
• 7:54
  can
• 7:54
  become.
• 7:55
  Come
• 7:55
  into
• 7:55
  this
• 7:56
  world
• 7:56
  like
• 7:56
  energy.
• 7:57
  Chi.
• 7:58
  Chi.
• 7:58
  We
• 7:59
  can
• 7:59
  talk
• 7:59
  a
• 7:59
  little
• 7:59
  more
• 7:59
  about
• 8:00
  Qi.
• 8:00
  Okay.
• 8:01
  And
• 8:01
  chi
• 8:02
  has
• 8:02
  two
• 8:02
  sides
• 8:03
  of
• 8:03
  the
• 8:03
  same
• 8:03
  coin.
• 8:04
  Yang,
• 8:05
  Chi
• 8:05
  and
• 8:05
  Yinxi.
• 8:07
  Okay.
• 8:08
  So
• 8:08
  for
• 8:08
  people,
• 8:08
  we
• 8:09
  could
• 8:09
  have
• 8:09
  young,
• 8:10
  sincere
• 8:11
  energy
• 8:11
  or
• 8:11
  yin,
• 8:12
  humble
• 8:13
  energy.
• 8:13
  So
• 8:13
  we
• 8:14
  practice
• 8:14
  this
• 8:15
  just
• 8:15
  to
• 8:15
  harmonize
• 8:16
  this
• 8:16
  world,
• 8:16
  to
• 8:16
  harmonize
• 8:17
  this
• 8:17
  life.
• 8:18
  When
• 8:18
  we
• 8:19
  use
• 8:19
  these,
• 8:19
  we
• 8:20
  enter
• 8:20
  into
• 8:20
  harmony
• 8:21
  with
• 8:21
  the
• 8:21
  entire
• 8:22
  universe.
• 8:23
  Right.
• 8:23
  The
• 8:23
  prince
• 8:23
  of
• 8:24
  the
• 8:24
  entire
• 8:24
  universe.
• 8:25
  Everything
• 8:26
  has
• 8:26
  a
• 8:26
  Yang
• 8:26
  side
• 8:27
  and
• 8:27
  a
• 8:27
  yin
• 8:27
  side.
• 8:27
  Everything
• 8:27
  has
• 8:28
  energy.
• 8:28
  Well,
• 8:29
  I.
• 8:29
  I
• 8:29
  have
• 8:30
  to
• 8:30
  also
• 8:31
  answer
• 8:32
  your
• 8:32
  offering
• 8:32
  of
• 8:32
  chi
• 8:33
  with
• 8:33
  the
• 8:33
  idea
• 8:34
  of
• 8:34
  li,
• 8:35
  which
• 8:35
  is
• 8:37
  you
• 8:37
  can't
• 8:38
  have
• 8:39
  energy
• 8:39
  without
• 8:40
  pattern.
• 8:40
  You
• 8:41
  can't
• 8:41
  have
• 8:41
  pattern
• 8:42
  without
• 8:42
  energy.
• 8:43
  They're
• 8:43
  two
• 8:43
  sides
• 8:44
  of
• 8:44
  the
• 8:44
  same
• 8:44
  thing.
• 8:45
  Yes.
• 8:45
  And
• 8:45
  the
• 8:46
  pattern.
• 8:47
  Say
• 8:47
  more
• 8:47
  about
• 8:47
  pattern
• 8:48
  for
• 8:48
  our
• 8:48
  listeners.
• 8:49
  Well,
• 8:49
  my
• 8:50
  study
• 8:50
  has
• 8:50
  been
• 8:51
  in
• 8:52
  I.
• 8:53
  I
• 8:53
  really
• 8:53
  love
• 8:53
  the
• 8:54
  beauty
• 8:54
  of
• 8:55
  chaos.
• 8:55
  Theory
• 8:55
  of
• 8:55
  complexity.
• 8:56
  Science
• 8:56
  of
• 8:56
  mantle
• 8:57
  brought
• 8:57
  sets
• 8:58
  and
• 9:00
  it's
• 9:00
  organic
• 9:01
  patterns,
• 9:01
  it's
• 9:02
  fractal
• 9:02
  geometry
• 9:04
  and
• 9:04
  fraction.
• 9:05
  Fractal.
• 9:05
  Fractal
• 9:06
  geometry
• 9:07
  means
• 9:07
  a
• 9:07
  fractional
• 9:08
  dimension.
• 9:10
  So
• 9:11
  in
• 9:11
  very
• 9:12
  short,
• 9:12
  there
• 9:13
  are
• 9:14
  four
• 9:14
  dimensions.
• 9:15
  A
• 9:16
  point,
• 9:17
  a
• 9:17
  line,
• 9:17
  a
• 9:18
  plane
• 9:18
  and
• 9:18
  a
• 9:19
  cube.
• 9:22
  But
• 9:22
  what
• 9:22
  is
• 9:22
  a
• 9:22
  signature?
• 9:24
  Is
• 9:24
  it
• 9:25
  just
• 9:25
  a
• 9:25
  line?
• 9:26
  No,
• 9:26
  it's
• 9:26
  more
• 9:26
  than
• 9:27
  that.
• 9:27
  Is
• 9:27
  it.
• 9:28
  Does
• 9:28
  it
• 9:28
  cover
• 9:28
  a
• 9:28
  whole
• 9:28
  planar
• 9:29
  surface?
• 9:29
  No,
• 9:30
  it's.
• 9:30
  But
• 9:31
  it's
• 9:31
  in
• 9:31
  between.
• 9:33
  And
• 9:35
  I
• 9:35
  don't
• 9:35
  have
• 9:36
  stuff
• 9:36
  prepared
• 9:37
  to
• 9:37
  show
• 9:37
  on
• 9:38
  our
• 9:40
  conversation
• 9:40
  today.
• 9:41
  But
• 9:41
  the
• 9:42
  thing
• 9:42
  that
• 9:42
  was
• 9:42
  so
• 9:42
  interesting
• 9:43
  to
• 9:43
  me
• 9:43
  was
• 9:44
  that
• 9:45
  one
• 9:46
  of
• 9:46
  the
• 9:46
  things
• 9:46
  and.
• 9:47
  And
• 9:47
  fractal
• 9:48
  geometry
• 9:48
  is
• 9:49
  in
• 9:49
  recent
• 9:49
  time
• 9:50
  was
• 9:50
  discovered
• 9:50
  by
• 9:51
  Benoit
• 9:51
  Mandelbrot.
• 9:52
  Who
• 9:53
  actually,
• 9:53
  and
• 9:54
  I
• 9:54
  recommend
• 9:55
  to
• 9:55
  all
• 9:55
  of
• 9:55
  our
• 9:55
  listeners
• 9:56
  a
• 9:57
  Nova
• 9:58
  Nova
• 9:58
  special
• 9:59
  from
• 10:00
  WGBH
• 10:01
  in
• 10:01
  Boston.
• 10:02
  You
• 10:02
  can
• 10:02
  find
• 10:02
  it
• 10:02
  on
• 10:02
  the
• 10:02
  Internet,
• 10:03
  but
• 10:04
  take
• 10:04
  a
• 10:04
  look
• 10:05
  and
• 10:06
  search
• 10:07
  the
• 10:07
  title.
• 10:07
  It's
• 10:08
  called
• 10:08
  Hunting
• 10:09
  the
• 10:09
  Hidden
• 10:09
  Dimension
• 10:10
  and
• 10:11
  it
• 10:11
  goes
• 10:11
  into
• 10:11
  the
• 10:11
  establishment
• 10:12
  of
• 10:13
  fractal
• 10:13
  geometry.
• 10:15
  But
• 10:15
  Mandelbrot,
• 10:19
  when
• 10:19
  we
• 10:19
  were
• 10:20
  just
• 10:20
  starting
• 10:21
  to
• 10:21
  use
• 10:21
  computers,
• 10:21
  there
• 10:22
  would
• 10:22
  be
• 10:22
  a
• 10:22
  terminal
• 10:24
  where
• 10:24
  the.
• 10:25
  A
• 10:26
  keyboard,
• 10:26
  and
• 10:26
  then
• 10:26
  it
• 10:27
  would
• 10:27
  hook
• 10:27
  up
• 10:27
  with
• 10:27
  a
• 10:27
  phone
• 10:28
  line
• 10:28
  to
• 10:28
  a
• 10:28
  big
• 10:29
  mainframe
• 10:29
  far
• 10:29
  away.
• 10:30
  And
• 10:30
  there
• 10:30
  was
• 10:31
  noise
• 10:31
  on
• 10:31
  the
• 10:31
  phone
• 10:31
  lines.
• 10:32
  And
• 10:32
  what
• 10:32
  Mandelbrot
• 10:33
  found
• 10:33
  was
• 10:34
  that
• 10:34
  the
• 10:35
  more
• 10:35
  he
• 10:35
  looked
• 10:35
  at
• 10:35
  the
• 10:35
  noise
• 10:36
  on
• 10:36
  the
• 10:36
  phone
• 10:36
  lines,
• 10:37
  the
• 10:37
  more
• 10:37
  the
• 10:37
  patterns
• 10:38
  kept
• 10:38
  repeating
• 10:39
  in
• 10:39
  the
• 10:39
  same
• 10:39
  way.
• 10:40
  So
• 10:40
  that's
• 10:41
  called
• 10:41
  scale
• 10:41
  invariance.
• 10:42
  But
• 10:42
  what
• 10:43
  shocked
• 10:43
  me
• 10:43
  was
• 10:44
  when
• 10:44
  I
• 10:44
  started
• 10:44
  listening
• 10:45
  or
• 10:45
  studying
• 10:46
  the
• 10:46
  great
• 10:47
  learning.
• 10:47
  That
• 10:48
  was
• 10:48
  also
• 10:49
  scale
• 10:50
  invariant.
• 10:51
  So
• 10:51
  it
• 10:51
  has
• 10:51
  the
• 10:52
  same
• 10:52
  patterns
• 10:52
  at
• 10:53
  whatever
• 10:53
  scale
• 10:53
  you're
• 10:54
  at.
• 10:54
  So
• 10:54
  if
• 10:55
  you
• 10:55
  would
• 10:55
  save
• 10:55
  the
• 10:55
  world,
• 10:55
  you
• 10:56
  want
• 10:56
  to
• 10:57
  make
• 10:57
  your
• 10:57
  town
• 10:57
  peaceful
• 10:58
  and
• 10:58
  make
• 10:58
  the
• 10:58
  town
• 10:58
  peaceful,
• 10:59
  to
• 10:59
  make
• 10:59
  the
• 11:01
  family
• 11:01
  peaceful,
• 11:02
  to
• 11:02
  make
• 11:02
  the
• 11:02
  family
• 11:02
  peaceful,
• 11:03
  to
• 11:03
  make
• 11:03
  you
• 11:03
  peaceful.
• 11:04
  And
• 11:04
  how
• 11:04
  do
• 11:04
  you
• 11:05
  become
• 11:05
  peaceful?
• 11:06
  And
• 11:06
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• 11:06
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• 11:07
  it
• 11:08
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• 11:08
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• 11:08
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• 11:09
  go
• 11:09
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• 11:09
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• 11:09
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• 11:10
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• 11:10
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• 11:10
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• 11:10
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• 11:10
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• 11:11
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• 11:11
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• 11:11
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• 11:12
  Because
• 11:12
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• 11:13
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• 11:14
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• 11:14
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• 11:14
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• 11:15
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• 11:15
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• 11:15
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• 11:16
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• 11:16
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• 11:16
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• 11:16
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• 11:17
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• 11:17
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• 11:18
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• 11:18
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• 11:19
  And
• 11:19
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• 11:19
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• 11:19
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• 11:20
  And
• 11:20
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• 11:20
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• 11:20
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• 11:21
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• 11:22
  to
• 11:22
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• 11:23
  family,
• 11:23
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• 11:23
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• 11:23
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• 11:23
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• 11:24
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• 11:24
  planet.
• 11:24
  And
• 11:25
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• 11:25
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• 11:25
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• 11:26
  there
• 11:26
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• 11:26
  two
• 11:26
  people
• 11:27
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• 11:27
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• 11:27
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• 11:28
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• 11:28
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• 11:28
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• 11:29
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• 11:29
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• 11:29
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• 11:30
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• 11:31
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• 11:31
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• 11:31
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• 11:32
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• 11:32
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• 11:32
  And
• 11:33
  I
• 11:33
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• 11:34
  invite
• 11:34
  people
• 11:34
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• 11:35
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• 11:35
  When
• 11:36
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• 11:36
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• 11:36
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• 11:36
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• 11:36
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• 11:37
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• 11:37
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• 11:37
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• 11:37
  someone's
• 11:38
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• 11:38
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• 11:38
  this.
• 11:39
  But
• 11:39
  I'm
• 11:39
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• 11:39
  about
• 11:40
  the
• 11:40
  Dalai
• 11:40
  Lama
• 11:41
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• 11:41
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• 11:41
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• 11:42
  Francis.
• 11:42
  You
• 11:42
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• 11:42
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• 11:43
  their
• 11:43
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• 11:44
  their
• 11:44
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• 11:44
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• 11:46
  So
• 11:47
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• 11:47
  coming
• 11:48
  to
• 11:48
  the
• 11:48
  end.
• 11:49
  Do
• 11:49
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• 11:49
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• 11:50
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• 11:50
  comments
• 11:50
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• 11:50
  On
• 11:51
  what
• 11:51
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• 11:51
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• 11:52
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• 11:52
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• 11:53
  Yeah.
• 11:53
  After
• 11:54
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• 11:54
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• 11:54
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• 11:54
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• 11:54
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• 11:55
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• 11:55
  Chinese
• 11:56
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• 11:56
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• 11:56
  For
• 11:57
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• 11:59
  and
• 11:59
  talk
• 11:59
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• 11:59
  how
• 12:00
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• 12:01
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• 12:01
  shows
• 12:02
  up
• 12:02
  in
• 12:02
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• 12:02
  natural
• 12:02
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• 12:03
  in
• 12:04
  different
• 12:04
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• 12:05
  That's
• 12:05
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• 12:06
  thing
• 12:06
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• 12:06
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• 12:06
  about
• 12:06
  hearing
• 12:07
  more
• 12:07
  about
• 12:07
  after
• 12:07
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• 12:07
  break.
• 12:08
  Okay.
• 12:09
  I'm
• 12:09
  Anthony
• 12:10
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• 12:10
  and
• 12:11
  I
• 12:11
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• 12:11
  your
• 12:11
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• 12:11
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• 12:12
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• 12:12
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• 12:12
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• 12:12
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• 12:13
  This
• 12:13
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• 12:13
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• 12:14
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• 12:14
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• 12:16
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• 12:16
  I'm
• 12:17
  my
• 12:17
  co
• 12:18
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• 12:19
  I'm
• 12:20
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• 12:20
  Dietz
• 12:20
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• 12:21
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• 12:21
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• 12:21
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• 12:21
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• 12:33
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• 12:34
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• 12:34
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• 12:35
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• 12:37
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• 12:38
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• 12:39
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• 12:41
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• 12:44
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• 12:46
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• 12:53
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• 12:58
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• 13:00
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• 13:00
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• 13:01
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• 13:01
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• 13:02
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• 13:02
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• 13:02
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• 13:35
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• 13:35
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• 13:36
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• 13:36
  I'm
• 13:36
  your
• 13:36
  co
• 13:36
  host
• 13:37
  today
• 13:37
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• 13:37
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• 13:37
  Living
• 13:37
  Conversation
• 13:38
  with
• 13:39
  Adam
• 13:39
  Dietz.
• 13:40
  And
• 13:40
  we
• 13:40
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• 13:40
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• 13:41
  to
• 13:41
  welcome
• 13:41
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• 13:41
  back
• 13:42
  to
• 13:42
  this
• 13:43
  fourth
• 13:43
  section.
• 13:45
  And
• 13:45
  this
• 13:45
  show
• 13:46
  is
• 13:46
  about
• 13:47
  public
• 13:48
  philosophy.
• 13:50
  And
• 13:51
  I
• 13:51
  think
• 13:51
  one
• 13:51
  of
• 13:51
  the
• 13:51
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• 13:51
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• 13:51
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• 13:52
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• 13:52
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• 13:52
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• 13:53
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• 13:53
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• 13:55
  and,
• 13:56
  or
• 13:57
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• 13:57
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• 13:57
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• 13:57
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• 13:57
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• 13:58
  it.
• 13:58
  It's
• 13:58
  kind
• 13:58
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• 13:58
  like
• 13:59
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• 14:00
  experience
• 14:00
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• 14:00
  I
• 14:01
  think
• 14:01
  you
• 14:01
  do.
• 14:02
  We
• 14:02
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• 14:02
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• 14:03
  like
• 14:03
  the
• 14:03
  sun.
• 14:05
  And
• 14:05
  would
• 14:05
  you
• 14:05
  talk
• 14:05
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• 14:06
  little
• 14:06
  bit
• 14:06
  about
• 14:07
  this?
• 14:08
  When
• 14:08
  you
• 14:08
  were
• 14:08
  in
• 14:08
  China,
• 14:08
  somebody
• 14:09
  said,
• 14:09
  oh,
• 14:09
  why
• 14:09
  should
• 14:09
  we
• 14:10
  study
• 14:10
  Confucius?
• 14:12
  It
• 14:12
  was
• 14:12
  a
• 14:12
  story
• 14:12
  from
• 14:13
  our
• 14:13
  mentor.
• 14:13
  He,
• 14:13
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• 14:14
  talked
• 14:14
  about
• 14:14
  how
• 14:15
  one
• 14:15
  of
• 14:15
  his
• 14:15
  friends,
• 14:16
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• 14:16
  of
• 14:16
  his
• 14:16
  friends,
• 14:17
  sons
• 14:17
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• 14:17
  complaining
• 14:18
  about
• 14:18
  or,
• 14:19
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• 14:19
  friend
• 14:19
  of
• 14:19
  the
• 14:20
  family
• 14:20
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• 14:20
  something
• 14:20
  like
• 14:20
  that.
• 14:20
  Why
• 14:21
  should
• 14:21
  we
• 14:21
  talk
• 14:21
  about
• 14:21
  Confucius?
• 14:21
  Why
• 14:22
  should
• 14:22
  we
• 14:22
  study
• 14:22
  Confucius?
• 14:23
  It's
• 14:23
  the
• 14:23
  same
• 14:24
  with,
• 14:24
  with
• 14:24
  all
• 14:24
  good
• 14:25
  philosophy.
• 14:26
  The
• 14:26
  reason
• 14:26
  why
• 14:26
  we
• 14:27
  study
• 14:27
  good
• 14:27
  philosophy
• 14:28
  is
• 14:28
  because
• 14:29
  it
• 14:29
  can
• 14:30
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• 14:30
  our
• 14:31
  life
• 14:31
  right
• 14:32
  now.
• 14:32
  So
• 14:32
  Confucius,
• 14:33
  you
• 14:34
  can
• 14:34
  still
• 14:34
  feel
• 14:34
  the
• 14:34
  influence
• 14:35
  of
• 14:35
  Confucius
• 14:36
  in
• 14:36
  daily
• 14:36
  life
• 14:36
  today.
• 14:37
  Just
• 14:37
  like
• 14:38
  even
• 14:38
  though
• 14:38
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• 14:38
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• 14:38
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• 14:39
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• 14:39
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• 14:39
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• 14:39
  you
• 14:39
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• 14:39
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• 14:39
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• 14:40
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• 14:40
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• 14:40
  Just
• 14:40
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• 14:41
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• 14:41
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• 14:41
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• 14:41
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• 14:42
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• 14:42
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• 14:42
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• 14:42
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• 14:43
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• 14:43
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• 14:43
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• 14:43
  feel
• 14:43
  its
• 14:44
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• 14:44
  Yep.
• 14:45
  This
• 14:45
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• 14:45
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• 14:45
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• 14:45
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• 14:46
  why
• 14:46
  we.
• 14:49
  We.
• 14:49
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• 14:49
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• 14:50
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• 14:50
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• 14:50
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• 14:50
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• 14:51
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• 14:51
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• 14:52
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• 14:53
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• 14:53
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• 14:53
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• 14:54
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• 14:54
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• 14:54
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• 14:54
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• 14:54
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• 14:54
  Yeah,
• 14:55
  Philosophy
• 14:56
  is
• 14:56
  for
• 14:56
  you,
• 14:57
  the
• 14:57
  listener,
• 14:58
  to
• 14:58
  experience.
• 14:59
  So
• 14:59
  we
• 15:00
  want
• 15:00
  to
• 15:00
  know
• 15:01
  your
• 15:01
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• 15:02
  Maybe
• 15:02
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• 15:02
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• 15:03
  many
• 15:03
  experiences
• 15:03
  before
• 15:04
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• 15:04
  philosophy
• 15:05
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• 15:05
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• 15:05
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• 15:05
  We
• 15:05
  want
• 15:06
  to
• 15:06
  know.
• 15:06
  Or
• 15:07
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• 15:07
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• 15:08
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• 15:08
  new
• 15:08
  ideas,
• 15:09
  new
• 15:09
  methods
• 15:10
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• 15:10
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• 15:10
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• 15:11
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• 15:11
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• 15:11
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• 15:11
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• 15:12
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• 15:12
  This
• 15:12
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• 15:13
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• 15:13
  trial
• 15:13
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• 15:14
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• 15:14
  What
• 15:14
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• 15:15
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• 15:15
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• 15:15
  What
• 15:16
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• 15:16
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• 15:16
  Confucius
• 15:17
  was
• 15:18
  to
• 15:18
  have
• 15:19
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• 15:19
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• 15:19
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• 15:19
  beings.
• 15:20
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• 15:21
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• 15:21
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• 15:22
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• 15:22
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• 15:22
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• 15:22
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• 15:23
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• 15:23
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• 15:23
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• 15:23
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• 15:24
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• 15:24
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• 15:25
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• 15:25
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• 15:25
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• 15:25
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• 15:25
  sage
• 15:26
  kings,
• 15:26
  all
• 15:27
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• 15:27
  philosophers.
• 15:27
  They
• 15:28
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• 15:29
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• 15:29
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• 15:29
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• 15:30
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• 15:31
  gave
• 15:31
  ideas
• 15:32
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• 15:32
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• 15:32
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• 15:32
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• 15:32
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• 15:33
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• 15:33
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• 15:33
  Enhance
• 15:34
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• 15:34
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• 15:34
  This
• 15:35
  is
• 15:35
  a
• 15:35
  good
• 15:35
  philosophy.
• 15:36
  To
• 15:37
  me,
• 15:37
  it's
• 15:37
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• 15:37
  not
• 15:38
  a
• 15:38
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• 15:38
  It's
• 15:39
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• 15:39
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• 15:39
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• 15:39
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• 15:40
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• 15:40
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• 15:40
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• 15:41
  Of
• 15:42
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• 15:42
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• 15:43
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• 15:43
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• 15:43
  it
• 15:43
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• 15:43
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• 15:44
  We
• 15:44
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• 15:44
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• 15:44
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• 15:44
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• 15:45
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• 15:45
  do
• 15:45
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• 15:45
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• 15:45
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• 15:46
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• 15:46
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• 15:46
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• 15:46
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• 15:46
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• 15:47
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• 15:47
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• 15:47
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• 15:47
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• 15:47
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• 15:48
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• 15:48
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• 15:48
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• 15:48
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• 15:48
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• 15:49
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• 15:49
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• 15:49
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• 15:49
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• 15:49
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• 15:50
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• 15:50
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• 15:51
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• 15:51
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• 15:51
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• 15:51
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• 15:52
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• 15:52
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• 15:52
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• 15:53
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• 15:53
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• 15:53
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• 15:55
  A
• 15:55
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• 15:56
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• 15:56
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• 15:56
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• 15:56
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• 15:57
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• 15:57
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• 15:58
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• 15:58
  a
• 15:58
  holistic
• 15:59
  physician,
• 16:00
  and
• 16:00
  he
• 16:00
  talks
• 16:00
  about
• 16:01
  the
• 16:01
  ontological
• 16:02
  primitive.
• 16:02
  Now,
• 16:02
  that's
• 16:02
  a
• 16:03
  big
• 16:03
  word,
• 16:03
  ontological
• 16:04
  ontos.
• 16:05
  And
• 16:05
  there's
• 16:06
  two
• 16:06
  words
• 16:06
  in
• 16:06
  philosophy
• 16:07
  that
• 16:07
  I
• 16:07
  talk
• 16:07
  to
• 16:08
  my
• 16:08
  students
• 16:08
  about.
• 16:09
  Ontology
• 16:09
  and
• 16:10
  epistemology.
• 16:11
  And
• 16:11
  epistemology
• 16:12
  is
• 16:12
  the
• 16:12
  study
• 16:13
  of
• 16:13
  language.
• 16:14
  Epistemology.
• 16:15
  And
• 16:16
  ontology
• 16:17
  is
• 16:17
  the
• 16:17
  study
• 16:17
  of
• 16:18
  reality.
• 16:19
  And
• 16:21
  Deepak
• 16:21
  Chopra
• 16:22
  spoke
• 16:22
  about
• 16:23
  the
• 16:24
  ontological
• 16:25
  primitive,
• 16:26
  which
• 16:26
  is
• 16:26
  the
• 16:27
  basis
• 16:27
  of
• 16:27
  reality.
• 16:28
  And
• 16:28
  he
• 16:28
  said,
• 16:29
  in
• 16:29
  the
• 16:29
  west,
• 16:30
  the
• 16:30
  ontological
• 16:31
  primitive
• 16:32
  is
• 16:32
  matter
• 16:33
  stuff.
• 16:34
  Okay?
• 16:35
  And
• 16:35
  yet
• 16:36
  through
• 16:36
  that,
• 16:38
  the
• 16:38
  quantum
• 16:38
  physicists
• 16:39
  are
• 16:39
  getting
• 16:39
  more
• 16:40
  and
• 16:40
  more
• 16:40
  and
• 16:40
  more
• 16:41
  towards
• 16:42
  this
• 16:43
  idea
• 16:43
  of
• 16:43
  the
• 16:44
  cosmos
• 16:44
  being
• 16:44
  a
• 16:45
  quantum
• 16:45
  field.
• 16:47
  And
• 16:47
  Deepak
• 16:47
  Chopra
• 16:48
  spoke
• 16:48
  about
• 16:49
  the
• 16:49
  ontological
• 16:50
  primitive
• 16:51
  in
• 16:51
  the
• 16:51
  east
• 16:52
  is
• 16:52
  that
• 16:52
  reality
• 16:53
  is
• 16:53
  consciousness.
• 16:55
  So
• 16:55
  it's.
• 16:56
  One
• 16:56
  of
• 16:56
  the
• 16:56
  places
• 16:57
  that
• 16:57
  I've
• 16:57
  been
• 16:57
  studying
• 16:58
  is
• 16:59
  this
• 16:59
  idea
• 17:00
  about
• 17:00
  the
• 17:00
  quantum
• 17:01
  field
• 17:02
  being
• 17:04
  the
• 17:04
  whole
• 17:04
  cosmos
• 17:05
  is
• 17:05
  conscious.
• 17:06
  And
• 17:07
  it
• 17:07
  shows
• 17:07
  up
• 17:08
  as
• 17:09
  Anthony.
• 17:11
  But
• 17:11
  Anthony
• 17:12
  isn't
• 17:12
  separate.
• 17:13
  Adam
• 17:13
  isn't
• 17:13
  separate.
• 17:16
  We're.
• 17:18
  And
• 17:19
  let
• 17:19
  me
• 17:19
  offer
• 17:19
  you.
• 17:19
  You
• 17:20
  had
• 17:20
  asked
• 17:20
  before
• 17:21
  about
• 17:24
  some
• 17:24
  ideas
• 17:25
  from
• 17:25
  complexity
• 17:25
  science,
• 17:26
  and
• 17:27
  there
• 17:27
  is
• 17:27
  this.
• 17:27
  I'm
• 17:28
  going
• 17:28
  to
• 17:28
  draw
• 17:28
  on
• 17:28
  the
• 17:28
  whiteboard
• 17:29
  here
• 17:31
  a
• 17:31
  map
• 17:31
  of
• 17:32
  Britain.
• 17:32
  It's.
• 17:32
  It's.
• 17:34
  It's
• 17:34
  not
• 17:34
  showing
• 17:34
  up
• 17:34
  very
• 17:35
  well.
• 17:36
  Let
• 17:36
  me
• 17:36
  just.
• 17:37
  Okay,
• 17:38
  that's
• 17:38
  better.
• 17:40
  And
• 17:40
  the
• 17:40
  question
• 17:41
  is,
• 17:41
  it's.
• 17:41
  This
• 17:41
  is
• 17:42
  the
• 17:42
  coastline
• 17:42
  paradox.
• 17:43
  And
• 17:43
  the
• 17:44
  question
• 17:44
  is,
• 17:44
  how
• 17:44
  long
• 17:44
  is
• 17:45
  the
• 17:45
  coastline
• 17:45
  of
• 17:45
  Britain?
• 17:46
  And
• 17:47
  for
• 17:47
  those
• 17:47
  of
• 17:47
  you
• 17:47
  listening
• 17:48
  online,
• 17:49
  you
• 17:49
  can
• 17:49
  follow
• 17:49
  us
• 17:50
  along.
• 17:50
  And.
• 17:50
  Okay,
• 17:51
  I'm
• 17:51
  going
• 17:51
  to
• 17:51
  measure
• 17:52
  the
• 17:52
  coastline
• 17:53
  of
• 17:53
  Britain
• 17:53
  with
• 17:54
  100
• 17:54
  kilometer
• 17:54
  rulers.
• 17:56
  Okay?
• 17:57
  So
• 17:59
  you
• 17:59
  see
• 17:59
  those
• 17:59
  dotted
• 18:00
  lines?
• 18:01
  Well,
• 18:01
  why
• 18:02
  stop
• 18:02
  at
• 18:02
  100
• 18:03
  kilometer
• 18:03
  ruler?
• 18:04
  Why
• 18:04
  not
• 18:04
  go
• 18:04
  with
• 18:04
  a
• 18:04
  50
• 18:04
  kilometer
• 18:05
  ruler?
• 18:05
  Okay,
• 18:06
  well,
• 18:06
  we
• 18:06
  get
• 18:06
  more.
• 18:07
  Why?
• 18:07
  Because
• 18:08
  the
• 18:08
  50
• 18:08
  kilometer
• 18:09
  rulers
• 18:10
  go
• 18:10
  into
• 18:10
  the
• 18:10
  indentations.
• 18:12
  Okay?
• 18:13
  So
• 18:13
  the
• 18:13
  coastline
• 18:14
  paradox
• 18:14
  goes
• 18:15
  like
• 18:15
  this.
• 18:18
  The
• 18:19
  shorter
• 18:20
  the
• 18:20
  unit
• 18:20
  of
• 18:21
  measurement
• 18:21
  that's
• 18:21
  used.
• 18:22
  So
• 18:22
  why
• 18:22
  stop
• 18:22
  at
• 18:23
  50
• 18:23
  km?
• 18:23
  Why
• 18:24
  stop
• 18:24
  at
• 18:24
  a
• 18:24
  meter?
• 18:24
  Why
• 18:25
  not
• 18:25
  go
• 18:25
  to
• 18:25
  a
• 18:25
  micrometer?
• 18:26
  So
• 18:26
  the
• 18:27
  shorter
• 18:27
  the
• 18:27
  unit
• 18:27
  that
• 18:27
  is
• 18:28
  measured,
• 18:29
  used
• 18:29
  to
• 18:29
  measure,
• 18:30
  the
• 18:30
  longer
• 18:30
  gets
• 18:31
  that
• 18:31
  which
• 18:31
  is
• 18:31
  measured
• 18:32
  until
• 18:32
  the
• 18:33
  unit.
• 18:33
  When
• 18:33
  the
• 18:33
  unit
• 18:33
  of
• 18:34
  measurement
• 18:34
  reaches
• 18:34
  zero,
• 18:35
  that
• 18:36
  which
• 18:36
  is
• 18:36
  measured
• 18:37
  becomes
• 18:37
  infinite.
• 18:39
  So
• 18:39
  I
• 18:40
  offer
• 18:40
  to
• 18:40
  you
• 18:40
  and
• 18:41
  to
• 18:41
  my
• 18:41
  students
• 18:43
  this
• 18:43
  idea,
• 18:44
  this
• 18:44
  analogy.
• 18:45
  When
• 18:45
  we
• 18:45
  stop
• 18:46
  making
• 18:46
  an
• 18:47
  arbitrary
• 18:47
  Distinction.
• 18:48
  And
• 18:49
  it's
• 18:49
  an
• 18:49
  arbitrary
• 18:50
  distinction.
• 18:50
  This
• 18:51
  is
• 18:51
  actually
• 18:51
  what
• 18:51
  the
• 18:51
  Buddha
• 18:52
  woke
• 18:52
  up
• 18:52
  to.
• 18:53
  When
• 18:54
  I
• 18:54
  stop
• 18:54
  making
• 18:54
  an
• 18:55
  arbitrary,
• 18:55
  arbitrary
• 18:56
  distinction
• 18:56
  between
• 18:57
  you
• 18:57
  and
• 18:57
  me,
• 18:58
  we
• 18:58
  become
• 18:58
  one
• 18:59
  being.
• 19:00
  This
• 19:01
  idea
• 19:01
  of
• 19:01
  separateness
• 19:03
  is
• 19:03
  an
• 19:04
  illusion.
• 19:05
  There's
• 19:06
  Adam
• 19:08
  Alan
• 19:08
  Watts
• 19:08
  talks
• 19:09
  about
• 19:10
  a
• 19:10
  story
• 19:10
  from
• 19:11
  10
• 19:11
  Buddhism
• 19:12
  called
• 19:12
  the
• 19:12
  Mosquito
• 19:13
  buying
• 19:13
  biting
• 19:13
  the
• 19:14
  iron
• 19:14
  bowl.
• 19:15
  The
• 19:15
  mosquito
• 19:16
  has
• 19:16
  to
• 19:16
  bite
• 19:17
  and
• 19:17
  the
• 19:17
  iron
• 19:17
  bull
• 19:18
  can't
• 19:18
  be
• 19:18
  bitten.
• 19:19
  And
• 19:20
  it's
• 19:20
  this
• 19:20
  idea
• 19:20
  when
• 19:21
  we
• 19:21
  desire
• 19:21
  something,
• 19:22
  we
• 19:23
  separate
• 19:23
  ourselves
• 19:23
  from
• 19:23
  it.
• 19:25
  And
• 19:28
  that
• 19:29
  that
• 19:29
  separation
• 19:30
  is
• 19:30
  what
• 19:30
  causes
• 19:31
  suffering.
• 19:32
  It's
• 19:32
  an
• 19:32
  illusion.
• 19:34
  So
• 19:35
  that
• 19:36
  was
• 19:36
  a
• 19:36
  tremendous
• 19:38
  realization
• 19:38
  for
• 19:38
  me
• 19:40
  and
• 19:41
  it
• 19:42
  assisted
• 19:42
  me
• 19:42
  into
• 19:43
  going
• 19:43
  into
• 19:44
  a
• 19:44
  flow
• 19:45
  state
• 19:46
  because
• 19:47
  I.
• 19:47
  I'll
• 19:47
  tell
• 19:47
  you
• 19:47
  another
• 19:47
  very
• 19:48
  quick
• 19:48
  story.
• 19:48
  I
• 19:48
  used
• 19:48
  to
• 19:49
  go
• 19:49
  sit
• 19:49
  zazen
• 19:49
  in
• 19:50
  the,
• 19:50
  in
• 19:50
  the
• 19:50
  Minnesota
• 19:50
  Zen
• 19:51
  center
• 19:52
  with
• 19:52
  Dan
• 19:53
  and
• 19:53
  Katagiri
• 19:53
  Roshi.
• 19:55
  And
• 19:55
  we
• 19:56
  would
• 19:56
  sit,
• 19:56
  you
• 19:56
  know,
• 19:56
  on
• 19:57
  Wednesday
• 19:57
  nights
• 19:57
  and
• 19:57
  he
• 19:57
  would
• 19:58
  talk
• 19:58
  about
• 19:58
  the
• 19:58
  Blue
• 19:58
  Cliff
• 19:58
  record
• 19:59
  and
• 19:59
  so
• 19:59
  forth.
• 19:59
  But
• 19:59
  you
• 20:00
  know,
• 20:00
  before
• 20:00
  the,
• 20:00
  the
• 20:01
  lecture
• 20:02
  we
• 20:02
  would
• 20:02
  sit
• 20:02
  dozen.
• 20:03
  And
• 20:03
  I
• 20:03
  noticed
• 20:04
  his
• 20:04
  energy,
• 20:04
  his
• 20:04
  body
• 20:05
  affect.
• 20:06
  And
• 20:08
  it
• 20:08
  was
• 20:08
  a
• 20:09
  of
• 20:09
  deep
• 20:09
  calmness.
• 20:12
  And
• 20:12
  then
• 20:12
  he
• 20:13
  got
• 20:13
  done
• 20:14
  with
• 20:14
  the
• 20:15
  sitting.
• 20:15
  And
• 20:17
  in,
• 20:17
  in
• 20:17
  Buddhist
• 20:18
  terms
• 20:18
  it's
• 20:18
  called
• 20:18
  Shikantaza,
• 20:19
  just
• 20:19
  sitting.
• 20:20
  But
• 20:20
  then
• 20:21
  he
• 20:21
  stopped
• 20:21
  sitting
• 20:21
  and
• 20:21
  then
• 20:22
  he
• 20:22
  was
• 20:22
  giving
• 20:22
  lecture.
• 20:23
  And
• 20:24
  a
• 20:24
  very
• 20:24
  curious
• 20:24
  thing
• 20:24
  that
• 20:25
  I
• 20:25
  noticed
• 20:26
  that
• 20:26
  his
• 20:27
  energy
• 20:27
  didn't
• 20:27
  change.
• 20:28
  Then
• 20:28
  he
• 20:28
  got
• 20:28
  done
• 20:29
  with
• 20:29
  his
• 20:29
  lecture
• 20:29
  and
• 20:29
  he
• 20:29
  was
• 20:29
  up
• 20:30
  talking
• 20:30
  amongst
• 20:31
  the
• 20:31
  various
• 20:31
  people
• 20:31
  in
• 20:32
  the
• 20:32
  room.
• 20:34
  And
• 20:34
  by
• 20:34
  God,
• 20:35
  his
• 20:35
  energy
• 20:35
  didn't
• 20:36
  change.
• 20:38
  Then
• 20:38
  I
• 20:38
  had
• 20:38
  a
• 20:38
  breakthrough.
• 20:39
  He
• 20:40
  was
• 20:40
  still
• 20:40
  meditating.
• 20:42
  He
• 20:42
  was
• 20:42
  still
• 20:42
  in
• 20:43
  the
• 20:43
  flow
• 20:43
  state.
• 20:43
  There
• 20:44
  was
• 20:44
  no
• 20:44
  separated
• 20:44
  Katagiri.
• 20:47
  So
• 20:48
  and
• 20:48
  each
• 20:49
  of
• 20:49
  us
• 20:49
  I
• 20:49
  propose
• 20:50
  and
• 20:50
  I've
• 20:50
  written
• 20:51
  about
• 20:51
  this
• 20:51
  and
• 20:51
  it's
• 20:51
  on
• 20:52
  my
• 20:52
  website,
• 20:53
  goes
• 20:54
  into
• 20:54
  the
• 20:54
  zone
• 20:55
  every
• 20:55
  day
• 20:57
  doing
• 20:57
  something
• 20:58
  that
• 20:58
  we
• 20:58
  love.
• 20:58
  We
• 20:58
  forget
• 20:59
  all
• 20:59
  about
• 20:59
  ourselves.
• 21:00
  To
• 21:01
  me
• 21:02
  that
• 21:03
  we
• 21:03
  don't
• 21:03
  value
• 21:04
  it
• 21:04
  in
• 21:04
  the
• 21:04
  West.
• 21:05
  But
• 21:05
  when
• 21:06
  we're
• 21:06
  in
• 21:06
  that
• 21:06
  flow
• 21:07
  state,
• 21:08
  that's
• 21:08
  when
• 21:08
  we
• 21:09
  are
• 21:09
  one
• 21:09
  with
• 21:09
  everything.
• 21:09
  There's
• 21:10
  no
• 21:10
  separation.
• 21:12
  And
• 21:13
  to
• 21:13
  me
• 21:14
  that's
• 21:14
  what
• 21:15
  would
• 21:15
  be
• 21:15
  called
• 21:15
  enlightenment.
• 21:17
  Because
• 21:17
  what.
• 21:17
  What
• 21:18
  is
• 21:18
  it
• 21:18
  like
• 21:18
  to
• 21:18
  have
• 21:19
  that
• 21:19
  happen
• 21:19
  all
• 21:20
  the
• 21:20
  time?
• 21:21
  Right.
• 21:22
  Does
• 21:22
  this
• 21:22
  make
• 21:23
  sense,
• 21:23
  Adam?
• 21:24
  Yeah,
• 21:24
  I
• 21:25
  think
• 21:26
  it
• 21:26
  makes
• 21:26
  sense
• 21:26
  to
• 21:26
  me.
• 21:27
  When
• 21:28
  I
• 21:28
  hear
• 21:28
  that
• 21:29
  I
• 21:29
  think
• 21:29
  of
• 21:29
  a
• 21:30
  few
• 21:30
  things,
• 21:30
  but
• 21:30
  the
• 21:30
  one
• 21:30
  that
• 21:31
  comes
• 21:31
  to
• 21:31
  mind
• 21:31
  is
• 21:31
  Lao
• 21:32
  to
• 21:32
  the
• 21:32
  chapter
• 21:32
  one,
• 21:33
  right,
• 21:33
  talks
• 21:33
  about
• 21:34
  that
• 21:34
  there's
• 21:34
  being
• 21:35
  and
• 21:35
  non
• 21:35
  being.
• 21:36
  So
• 21:36
  I
• 21:37
  feel
• 21:37
  like
• 21:37
  right
• 21:38
  now
• 21:38
  what
• 21:38
  you're
• 21:38
  talking
• 21:38
  about
• 21:39
  is,
• 21:39
  is
• 21:39
  the
• 21:40
  non
• 21:40
  being.
• 21:40
  And
• 21:40
  those
• 21:41
  are
• 21:41
  two
• 21:41
  sides
• 21:41
  of
• 21:41
  the
• 21:41
  same
• 21:42
  coin.
• 21:42
  Yes,
• 21:43
  being
• 21:43
  a
• 21:43
  non
• 21:44
  being.
• 21:44
  So
• 21:44
  right
• 21:45
  now
• 21:45
  you're
• 21:45
  talking
• 21:45
  about
• 21:45
  non
• 21:45
  being.
• 21:46
  So
• 21:46
  in
• 21:47
  non
• 21:47
  being,
• 21:49
  how
• 21:49
  to
• 21:49
  practice
• 21:50
  this?
• 21:50
  We
• 21:50
  practice
• 21:50
  this
• 21:50
  by
• 21:51
  letting
• 21:51
  our
• 21:51
  mind
• 21:51
  settle.
• 21:52
  When
• 21:52
  we
• 21:53
  let
• 21:53
  our
• 21:53
  mind
• 21:53
  settle,
• 21:54
  then
• 21:54
  we
• 21:54
  can
• 21:54
  be
• 21:55
  in
• 21:55
  non
• 21:55
  being.
• 21:56
  When
• 21:56
  we
• 21:56
  are
• 21:56
  in
• 21:57
  non
• 21:57
  being,
• 21:57
  we.
• 21:57
  Lao
• 21:58
  Tzu
• 21:58
  chapter
• 21:58
  one
• 21:59
  says
• 21:59
  we
• 21:59
  can
• 21:59
  contemplate
• 22:00
  the
• 22:01
  origin
• 22:01
  of
• 22:02
  all
• 22:02
  things.
• 22:03
  The
• 22:03
  mother
• 22:04
  of
• 22:04
  all
• 22:04
  things.
• 22:04
  The
• 22:04
  origin
• 22:05
  of
• 22:05
  all
• 22:05
  things.
• 22:05
  Okay,
• 22:06
  this
• 22:06
  is
• 22:06
  non
• 22:07
  being.
• 22:08
  Being
• 22:08
  is
• 22:09
  the
• 22:09
  path
• 22:09
  of
• 22:10
  all
• 22:10
  things.
• 22:10
  So
• 22:11
  being
• 22:11
  is
• 22:12
  how
• 22:13
  Dao
• 22:13
  comes
• 22:14
  into
• 22:14
  this
• 22:15
  world
• 22:15
  in
• 22:15
  a
• 22:15
  certain
• 22:15
  path,
• 22:16
  in
• 22:16
  a
• 22:16
  certain
• 22:16
  direction.
• 22:17
  So
• 22:17
  this
• 22:17
  is
• 22:18
  the.
• 22:19
  You
• 22:19
  were
• 22:19
  talking
• 22:20
  about
• 22:20
  the
• 22:21
  non
• 22:21
  being
• 22:21
  that
• 22:22
  we
• 22:22
  are
• 22:22
  all
• 22:22
  united
• 22:23
  in
• 22:23
  non
• 22:24
  being.
• 22:25
  We
• 22:25
  are
• 22:25
  also
• 22:25
  have.
• 22:26
  I
• 22:26
  have
• 22:26
  my
• 22:27
  skin,
• 22:27
  I
• 22:27
  have
• 22:27
  myself,
• 22:28
  I
• 22:28
  have
• 22:28
  my
• 22:28
  face.
• 22:29
  So
• 22:29
  I
• 22:29
  am
• 22:29
  one
• 22:30
  unique
• 22:30
  manifestation
• 22:31
  of
• 22:31
  Dao
• 22:32
  coming
• 22:32
  into
• 22:33
  being.
• 22:34
  So
• 22:35
  this
• 22:35
  is
• 22:36
  like
• 22:36
  two
• 22:36
  sides
• 22:36
  of
• 22:36
  the
• 22:36
  same
• 22:36
  coin.
• 22:38
  We
• 22:38
  all
• 22:38
  have
• 22:39
  our
• 22:39
  non
• 22:39
  being.
• 22:40
  We
• 22:40
  all
• 22:40
  have
• 22:40
  our
• 22:41
  being.
• 22:41
  We
• 22:42
  all
• 22:42
  have
• 22:42
  our
• 22:42
  heavenly
• 22:43
  nature.
• 22:43
  We
• 22:44
  all
• 22:44
  have
• 22:44
  our
• 22:44
  life.
• 22:45
  If
• 22:45
  we're
• 22:45
  Confucius,
• 22:46
  this
• 22:46
  is
• 22:46
  like
• 22:46
  we
• 22:46
  all
• 22:47
  have
• 22:47
  our
• 22:48
  heavenly
• 22:48
  nature.
• 22:48
  As
• 22:48
  a
• 22:48
  human
• 22:49
  being
• 22:49
  is
• 22:49
  humanity.
• 22:50
  So
• 22:50
  we
• 22:50
  all
• 22:50
  have
• 22:51
  humanity.
• 22:52
  And
• 22:52
  then
• 22:52
  we
• 22:52
  all
• 22:53
  have
• 22:53
  our
• 22:53
  life,
• 22:54
  our
• 22:54
  relationships,
• 22:56
  how
• 22:56
  we
• 22:56
  act,
• 22:57
  how
• 22:57
  we
• 22:57
  enter
• 22:57
  into
• 22:58
  this
• 22:58
  world.
• 22:59
  So
• 22:59
  this
• 22:59
  entire
• 23:00
  universe
• 23:01
  has
• 23:01
  put
• 23:01
  Adam
• 23:02
  in
• 23:02
  this
• 23:02
  space
• 23:03
  to
• 23:04
  fulfill
• 23:04
  my
• 23:05
  set
• 23:05
  of
• 23:05
  responsibilities
• 23:06
  and
• 23:06
  relationships.
• 23:07
  All
• 23:08
  time
• 23:08
  and
• 23:08
  space
• 23:09
  is
• 23:09
  uniquely
• 23:09
  in
• 23:10
  this
• 23:10
  atom.
• 23:11
  Just
• 23:11
  like
• 23:11
  all
• 23:11
  time
• 23:12
  and
• 23:12
  space
• 23:12
  is
• 23:12
  uniquely
• 23:13
  in
• 23:13
  Anthony.
• 23:14
  Just
• 23:14
  like
• 23:14
  all
• 23:14
  time
• 23:15
  and
• 23:15
  space
• 23:15
  is
• 23:15
  uniquely
• 23:16
  in
• 23:16
  every
• 23:16
  listener.
• 23:17
  The
• 23:17
  only
• 23:18
  you
• 23:18
  can
• 23:19
  massage
• 23:20
  out
• 23:20
  and
• 23:20
  harmonize
• 23:21
  the.
• 23:21
  The
• 23:22
  events
• 23:22
  of
• 23:22
  your
• 23:22
  life.
• 23:23
  Only
• 23:23
  you
• 23:24
  can
• 23:25
  act
• 23:25
  in
• 23:25
  your
• 23:25
  relationships
• 23:26
  with
• 23:26
  humanity,
• 23:27
  loyalty
• 23:27
  to
• 23:28
  yourself,
• 23:28
  empathy
• 23:29
  towards
• 23:29
  other
• 23:29
  people,
• 23:30
  the
• 23:30
  practice
• 23:30
  of
• 23:31
  humanity,
• 23:31
  sincerity,
• 23:32
  humility.
• 23:33
  Only
• 23:33
  you.
• 23:34
  That
• 23:34
  is
• 23:34
  your
• 23:34
  destiny
• 23:35
  of
• 23:35
  all
• 23:35
  time
• 23:36
  and
• 23:36
  space
• 23:36
  in
• 23:37
  that
• 23:37
  area
• 23:38
  that
• 23:38
  only
• 23:38
  we
• 23:39
  can
• 23:39
  fulfill.
• 23:40
  Right.
• 23:40
  And
• 23:40
  this
• 23:40
  is
• 23:41
  what
• 23:41
  is
• 23:41
  the
• 23:42
  difference
• 23:42
  between
• 23:42
  heaven's
• 23:43
  destiny
• 23:43
  and
• 23:43
  fate?
• 23:44
  You
• 23:45
  don't
• 23:45
  feel
• 23:45
  swept
• 23:46
  around,
• 23:46
  you
• 23:46
  know,
• 23:46
  oh,
• 23:46
  I'm
• 23:47
  the
• 23:47
  separate
• 23:47
  person
• 23:47
  that
• 23:48
  the
• 23:48
  world
• 23:48
  is
• 23:48
  against
• 23:49
  me.
• 23:49
  Oh
• 23:49
  my
• 23:49
  gosh.
• 23:50
  Well,
• 23:51
  it's
• 23:52
  real
• 23:52
  curious.
• 23:53
  I.
• 23:53
  And.
• 23:54
  And
• 23:55
  I'm
• 23:55
  experiencing
• 23:56
  being
• 23:56
  and
• 23:56
  non
• 23:56
  being
• 23:57
  at
• 23:57
  the
• 23:57
  same
• 23:57
  time.
• 23:59
  Good.
• 23:59
  So
• 23:59
  it's
• 24:00
  outside
• 24:00
  of
• 24:00
  time
• 24:00
  and
• 24:01
  space
• 24:05
  anyway.
• 24:06
  Yeah.
• 24:06
  We
• 24:06
  can.
• 24:07
  We
• 24:07
  can
• 24:07
  experience
• 24:07
  in
• 24:08
  our
• 24:08
  own
• 24:08
  mind
• 24:08
  all
• 24:09
  of
• 24:09
  time
• 24:09
  and
• 24:09
  space.
• 24:10
  We
• 24:10
  can
• 24:10
  unite
• 24:10
  with
• 24:11
  Dao.
• 24:11
  We
• 24:12
  have.
• 24:12
  Everything
• 24:12
  has
• 24:13
  Dao
• 24:13
  in
• 24:13
  it.
• 24:13
  We
• 24:14
  have
• 24:14
  Dao
• 24:14
  in
• 24:14
  it.
• 24:15
  Dao
• 24:15
  is
• 24:15
  beyond
• 24:16
  words.
• 24:16
  Tao
• 24:16
  now
• 24:16
  is
• 24:17
  beyond
• 24:17
  time
• 24:17
  and
• 24:17
  space.
• 24:18
  We
• 24:18
  can
• 24:18
  experience
• 24:19
  this.
• 24:19
  We
• 24:19
  can
• 24:19
  experience
• 24:20
  being
• 24:20
  and
• 24:20
  non
• 24:21
  being.
• 24:21
  But
• 24:22
  that's
• 24:22
  what
• 24:22
  happens
• 24:23
  in
• 24:23
  the
• 24:23
  zone.
• 24:23
  That's
• 24:24
  what
• 24:24
  happens
• 24:24
  in
• 24:24
  the
• 24:25
  flow
• 24:25
  state.
• 24:26
  But
• 24:26
  I
• 24:26
  also
• 24:26
  have
• 24:27
  to
• 24:27
  say
• 24:28
  there
• 24:28
  is,
• 24:29
  you
• 24:29
  know,
• 24:29
  because
• 24:29
  I've
• 24:30
  been
• 24:30
  looking
• 24:30
  at
• 24:30
  this.
• 24:31
  Within
• 24:31
  the
• 24:31
  flow
• 24:31
  state,
• 24:32
  you
• 24:32
  need
• 24:32
  ethics
• 24:33
  and
• 24:34
  you
• 24:34
  also
• 24:35
  need
• 24:35
  compassion
• 24:36
  and
• 24:37
  tranquility,
• 24:39
  which
• 24:40
  is
• 24:40
  this
• 24:40
  grounded
• 24:41
  idea,
• 24:41
  but
• 24:41
  also
• 24:42
  a
• 24:42
  flexibility
• 24:43
  to
• 24:43
  allow
• 24:43
  the
• 24:44
  awareness
• 24:44
  to
• 24:44
  go
• 24:45
  from
• 24:45
  the
• 24:46
  local
• 24:46
  place
• 24:47
  of
• 24:47
  Adam
• 24:47
  and
• 24:47
  Anthony
• 24:48
  to
• 24:50
  what
• 24:50
  is
• 24:51
  the
• 24:51
  case
• 24:52
  for
• 24:52
  being
• 24:53
  Aware
• 24:53
  of
• 24:53
  everyone
• 24:53
  who's
• 24:54
  listening
• 24:54
  or
• 24:54
  watching,
• 24:55
  because
• 24:56
  it's
• 24:56
  interesting
• 24:57
  that
• 24:57
  I
• 24:57
  can
• 24:57
  attend
• 24:57
  to
• 24:58
  you
• 24:58
  who
• 24:58
  are
• 24:58
  listening
• 24:58
  and
• 24:59
  watching
• 25:00
  as
• 25:00
  attending
• 25:01
  in
• 25:01
  the
• 25:01
  future.
• 25:01
  And
• 25:02
  I
• 25:02
  can
• 25:02
  feel
• 25:02
  that.
• 25:03
  And
• 25:04
  then,
• 25:04
  well,
• 25:04
  why,
• 25:05
  why
• 25:05
  would
• 25:05
  we
• 25:05
  stop
• 25:05
  there?
• 25:06
  Why
• 25:06
  not
• 25:07
  attend
• 25:07
  to
• 25:08
  the
• 25:08
  community
• 25:09
  and
• 25:09
  to
• 25:09
  the
• 25:09
  country
• 25:10
  and
• 25:10
  to
• 25:11
  the
• 25:11
  planet
• 25:12
  and
• 25:12
  to
• 25:12
  the
• 25:12
  cosmos?
• 25:15
  But
• 25:16
  that's
• 25:16
  this
• 25:16
  idea
• 25:16
  of
• 25:17
  having
• 25:17
  flexibility
• 25:18
  at
• 25:18
  different
• 25:18
  levels
• 25:19
  because
• 25:20
  the
• 25:20
  patterns
• 25:20
  repeat.
• 25:22
  And
• 25:22
  again,
• 25:22
  I
• 25:23
  want
• 25:23
  to
• 25:23
  invite
• 25:23
  people
• 25:23
  to
• 25:24
  take,
• 25:25
  to
• 25:25
  check
• 25:25
  out
• 25:25
  that
• 25:26
  Hunting
• 25:26
  the
• 25:26
  Hidden
• 25:27
  Dimension
• 25:29
  show
• 25:30
  on
• 25:30
  nova.
• 25:30
  It's
• 25:31
  about
• 25:31
  an
• 25:31
  hour,
• 25:31
  but
• 25:31
  you
• 25:32
  won't
• 25:32
  regret
• 25:32
  seeing
• 25:33
  it.
• 25:33
  But
• 25:33
  it
• 25:34
  really
• 25:34
  does
• 25:34
  play
• 25:34
  into
• 25:35
  my
• 25:35
  study
• 25:35
  and
• 25:36
  it
• 25:36
  sounds
• 25:36
  like
• 25:36
  into
• 25:36
  your
• 25:36
  study
• 25:37
  also.
• 25:37
  Adam
• 25:38
  of
• 25:39
  Chinese
• 25:39
  philosophy,
• 25:40
  before
• 25:40
  we're
• 25:41
  done
• 25:41
  here,
• 25:41
  do
• 25:41
  you
• 25:41
  have
• 25:41
  any
• 25:41
  final
• 25:42
  words
• 25:42
  for
• 25:43
  our
• 25:43
  listeners
• 25:44
  for
• 25:44
  this
• 25:44
  time?
• 25:45
  Well,
• 25:45
  two
• 25:46
  things.
• 25:46
  One,
• 25:47
  my
• 25:47
  final
• 25:47
  thought
• 25:47
  on
• 25:48
  this
• 25:48
  topic
• 25:48
  is
• 25:48
  that
• 25:49
  this
• 25:49
  word
• 25:49
  earlier
• 25:50
  principle
• 25:51
  is
• 25:51
  that
• 25:51
  we
• 25:51
  are
• 25:52
  all
• 25:52
  a
• 25:53
  pattern
• 25:53
  of
• 25:53
  how
• 25:54
  the
• 25:54
  dao
• 25:54
  has
• 25:54
  come
• 25:54
  into
• 25:55
  existence.
• 25:55
  This
• 25:56
  character,
• 25:56
  Chinese
• 25:56
  character,
• 25:57
  is
• 25:57
  like
• 25:57
  the
• 25:57
  veins
• 25:58
  on
• 25:58
  jade
• 25:59
  or
• 25:59
  the
• 26:00
  branches
• 26:00
  of
• 26:01
  a
• 26:01
  tree.
• 26:02
  All
• 26:02
  nature
• 26:03
  follows
• 26:04
  has
• 26:04
  this
• 26:04
  pattern.
• 26:05
  So
• 26:05
  before,
• 26:06
  before
• 26:06
  Anthony
• 26:07
  was
• 26:07
  talking
• 26:07
  about
• 26:08
  fractal
• 26:08
  pattern.
• 26:09
  So
• 26:09
  we
• 26:10
  can
• 26:10
  see
• 26:10
  this
• 26:10
  in
• 26:10
  nature.
• 26:10
  This
• 26:11
  is
• 26:11
  like
• 26:11
  the
• 26:11
  dao
• 26:11
  has
• 26:12
  entered
• 26:12
  into
• 26:12
  the
• 26:13
  chat.
• 26:13
  The
• 26:13
  dao
• 26:13
  has
• 26:13
  entered
• 26:14
  into
• 26:14
  the,
• 26:14
  into
• 26:15
  the
• 26:15
  world
• 26:15
  in
• 26:15
  this
• 26:15
  way,
• 26:16
  in
• 26:16
  this
• 26:16
  pattern.
• 26:16
  This
• 26:17
  is
• 26:17
  the
• 26:17
  character
• 26:17
  Lee.
• 26:19
  Yeah,
• 26:19
  yeah.
• 26:20
  And,
• 26:20
  and
• 26:20
  so
• 26:20
  that,
• 26:21
  that's
• 26:21
  my
• 26:21
  one
• 26:21
  final
• 26:21
  thought
• 26:22
  about
• 26:23
  what
• 26:23
  we've
• 26:23
  been
• 26:23
  discussing
• 26:23
  today.
• 26:24
  And
• 26:24
  I
• 26:24
  just
• 26:24
  want
• 26:24
  to
• 26:25
  continue
• 26:25
  to
• 26:25
  encourage
• 26:26
  everyone
• 26:26
  to
• 26:28
  make
• 26:28
  this
• 26:28
  the
• 26:28
  living
• 26:29
  conversation.
• 26:29
  Right?
• 26:30
  That
• 26:30
  means
• 26:31
  it's
• 26:31
  not
• 26:31
  a
• 26:31
  living
• 26:31
  conversation
• 26:32
  if
• 26:32
  it
• 26:32
  doesn't
• 26:32
  enter
• 26:32
  into
• 26:33
  life.
• 26:33
  Our
• 26:33
  mentor
• 26:34
  talked
• 26:34
  about
• 26:34
  how
• 26:34
  philosophy
• 26:35
  needs
• 26:35
  to
• 26:35
  be
• 26:35
  in
• 26:36
  practice.
• 26:36
  Philosophy
• 26:37
  needs
• 26:37
  to
• 26:37
  be
• 26:37
  entered
• 26:38
  into
• 26:38
  daily
• 26:38
  life.
• 26:39
  So
• 26:39
  we
• 26:39
  should
• 26:40
  all
• 26:41
  hopefully
• 26:41
  be
• 26:41
  looking
• 26:42
  at
• 26:42
  our
• 26:42
  daily
• 26:42
  life.
• 26:43
  How,
• 26:43
  how
• 26:43
  is
• 26:43
  wisdom
• 26:44
  entry
• 26:44
  into
• 26:44
  our
• 26:45
  life
• 26:45
  in
• 26:45
  our
• 26:45
  daily
• 26:45
  life?
• 26:46
  So
• 26:46
  we
• 26:47
  would
• 26:47
  love
• 26:47
  to
• 26:47
  hear
• 26:48
  from
• 26:48
  you
• 26:48
  in
• 26:48
  any
• 26:48
  format
• 26:49
  you
• 26:49
  can
• 26:49
  find.
• 26:49
  You
• 26:50
  can
• 26:50
  find
• 26:50
  me
• 26:50
  online
• 26:51
  in
• 26:51
  many,
• 26:52
  so
• 26:52
  many
• 26:52
  different
• 26:53
  social
• 26:53
  media
• 26:54
  areas,
• 26:54
  mostly
• 26:55
  under
• 26:55
  the
• 26:55
  way,
• 26:56
  between
• 26:57
  on
• 26:57
  TikTok,
• 26:58
  YouTube,
• 26:59
  Shorts,
• 26:59
  Instagram,
• 27:00
  basically
• 27:00
  everything.
• 27:00
  The
• 27:01
  main
• 27:01
  platform
• 27:01
  that
• 27:01
  I
• 27:02
  mostly
• 27:02
  use
• 27:02
  is
• 27:02
  substack.
• 27:03
  So
• 27:03
  you
• 27:03
  find
• 27:03
  me
• 27:04
  there.
• 27:04
  But
• 27:04
  the
• 27:04
  reason
• 27:04
  why
• 27:05
  I
• 27:05
  mentioned
• 27:05
  that
• 27:05
  is
• 27:05
  because
• 27:05
  we
• 27:06
  want
• 27:06
  this
• 27:06
  to
• 27:07
  be
• 27:07
  the
• 27:07
  living
• 27:07
  conversation.
• 27:08
  So
• 27:08
  we
• 27:08
  want
• 27:09
  to
• 27:09
  know
• 27:09
  how
• 27:10
  these
• 27:10
  things
• 27:10
  are
• 27:10
  entering
• 27:11
  into
• 27:11
  all
• 27:11
  of
• 27:11
  our
• 27:11
  lives.
• 27:12
  What
• 27:12
  things?
• 27:13
  You
• 27:13
  know,
• 27:13
  the
• 27:13
  more
• 27:14
  experience
• 27:14
  we
• 27:15
  can
• 27:16
  look
• 27:16
  at
• 27:16
  and
• 27:16
  examine
• 27:17
  a
• 27:17
  philosophy,
• 27:18
  the
• 27:18
  more
• 27:18
  alive
• 27:19
  the
• 27:19
  conversation
• 27:20
  will
• 27:20
  be.
• 27:20
  Does
• 27:20
  this
• 27:21
  make
• 27:21
  sense?
• 27:21
  Does
• 27:21
  this
• 27:21
  make
• 27:21
  any
• 27:22
  sense
• 27:22
  to
• 27:22
  you
• 27:22
  guys
• 27:22
  who
• 27:22
  are
• 27:23
  listening?
• 27:24
  Do
• 27:24
  you
• 27:24
  guys
• 27:24
  and
• 27:24
  ladies
• 27:25
  please
• 27:25
  let
• 27:25
  us
• 27:26
  know.
• 27:27
  And
• 27:27
  I'm
• 27:27
  on
• 27:27
  theonaut.com
• 27:29
  T-H-E-O-N-A-U-T.com
• 27:31
  and
• 27:31
  there
• 27:32
  is
• 27:32
  a
• 27:32
  comment
• 27:32
  section
• 27:32
  there.
• 27:33
  So
• 27:33
  please,
• 27:35
  please
• 27:36
  let
• 27:36
  us
• 27:36
  know
• 27:36
  how
• 27:36
  it,
• 27:36
  how
• 27:36
  it
• 27:37
  goes.
• 27:37
  Well,
• 27:37
  thank
• 27:38
  you
• 27:38
  so
• 27:38
  much
• 27:38
  for
• 27:38
  attending.
• 27:39
  I'm
• 27:39
  Anthony
• 27:39
  Wright.
• 27:40
  And
• 27:40
  I'm
• 27:41
  Adam
• 27:41
  Dietz.
• 27:41
  And
• 27:42
  we
• 27:42
  have
• 27:42
  been
• 27:42
  having
• 27:42
  the
• 27:43
  living
• 27:43
  conversation.
• 27:44
  We'll
• 27:44
  see
• 27:45
  you
• 27:45
  next
• 27:45
  time.
• 27:51
  Sa.