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- 0:01Speaker 1: It could look at this Jeffrey Epstein hoax also because
- 0:04Speaker 1: that's the same stuff that's all put out by Democrats.
- 0:07Speaker 1: Some of the naive Republicans fall right into line like
- 0:10Speaker 1: they always do. They just don't have the they don't
- 0:13Speaker 1: have the sustainability. They don't have There's something they don't
- 0:16Speaker 1: have that sticktuitive like glue. The Democrats, you know, they
- 0:20Speaker 1: have bad policy, they have bad candidates, they have bad everything,
- 0:24Speaker 1: but they stick together and the Republicans don't do that.
- 0:27Speaker 2: This is a forty seven Morning Update special edition with
- 0:30Speaker 2: Ben ferguson.
- 0:31Speaker 3: Good Friday morning. It is so nice to have you
- 0:34Speaker 3: with us on the forty seven Morning Update.
- 0:35Speaker 4: And we've got one big story with two big aspects
- 0:38Speaker 4: to it, Jeffrey Epstein, the Epstein files, and a shocking
- 0:42Speaker 4: Wall Street Journal attack on President Donald Trump. I'm going
- 0:46Speaker 4: to break down why the President's now saying he is
- 0:49Speaker 4: going to sue the Wall Street Journal. I'm also going
- 0:52Speaker 4: to break down what many conservatives like myself want when
- 0:56Speaker 4: it comes to government and transparency and why this has
- 1:00Speaker 4: comes such a big issue out of nowhere in the media.
- 1:02Speaker 4: It's for one reason. They want to hurt President Donald Trump.
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- 3:27Speaker 2: Story number one.
- 3:29Speaker 4: All right, let's deal comprehensively with the entire epscene scandal,
- 3:35Speaker 4: the papers, what should be put out there, and the
- 3:39Speaker 4: media obsessing over this story. On top of the fact
- 3:43Speaker 4: that the Wall Street Journal has come out with a
- 3:47Speaker 4: massive hit piece on Donald Trump. He's now threatening to
- 3:50Speaker 4: sue the Wall Street Journal. Now you want to know
- 3:54Speaker 4: how crazy this article is. Even Chris Cuomo speaking out
- 4:00Speaker 4: about the Wall Street Journal's reporting, and I want you
- 4:03Speaker 4: to listen to what he had to say.
- 4:05Speaker 5: But I get that he's pissed off, Okay, and he's
- 4:08Speaker 5: not wrong. This Wall Street Journal piece is a hack job, okay.
- 4:14Speaker 5: And he says he's suing Rupert Murdoch, who he you know,
- 4:17Speaker 5: is his buddy. They have, you know, Fox kind of
- 4:19Speaker 5: made Trump, you know, And he's suing the journal, He's
- 4:24Speaker 5: suing everybody. He says he didn't write the birthday letter
- 4:27Speaker 5: that they're ascribing to him to Epstein for his fiftieth birthday.
- 4:33Speaker 5: I mean, it's so stupid, Okay. The Epstein story is
- 4:37Speaker 5: about abusing kids who didn't have the power or agency
- 4:41Speaker 5: to do anything about it. That rich and powerful people
- 4:44Speaker 5: may have known it was going on and they got
- 4:46Speaker 5: away with it. That's the story.
- 4:48Speaker 1: Okay.
- 4:49Speaker 5: It's not that Trump liked a scumbag. Okay, Now I
- 4:54Speaker 5: get that. In the media, this is great because it's
- 4:56Speaker 5: bad for Trump and he's going crazy and he's gonna
- 4:58Speaker 5: pump and move the story for the Wall Street Journal
- 5:00Speaker 5: right now by saying it's fake and it's wrong, but
- 5:02Speaker 5: it doesn't move the needle in the country. It's gonna
- 5:05Speaker 5: make you some money, Rupert, great for you, just what
- 5:07Speaker 5: you need. But this is why we can't get anywhere.
- 5:09Speaker 5: The guy says, I didn't write the letter. The letter
- 5:11Speaker 5: is meaningless. You put out the piece anyway, and there's
- 5:14Speaker 5: no light on what really matters. Now.
- 5:17Speaker 4: The point that Cuomo, not a conservative, is making there
- 5:20Speaker 4: is absolutely right. Politics should not be involved in this.
- 5:24Speaker 4: This is the reason why so many MAGA conservatives like
- 5:27Speaker 4: myself have been saying we want total transparency. Why because
- 5:32Speaker 4: we don't trust the government. Why because they've given us
- 5:35Speaker 4: reasons to not trust them. We have watched them weaponize
- 5:38Speaker 4: the government to go after Donald Trump. We've watched them
- 5:40Speaker 4: weaponized the government to sell lies like the Russian collusion story,
- 5:44Speaker 4: to try to undermine the American people and overthrow the
- 5:48Speaker 4: will of the people. We have witnessed them lie about
- 5:50Speaker 4: the Hunter Biden laptop. We've witnessed the deep state and
- 5:54Speaker 4: all the leaders are supposed to trust the CIA and
- 5:56Speaker 4: other intelligence organizations sign a letter saying that the Hunter
- 6:00Speaker 4: Biden laptop was a lie. We have witnessed them lie
- 6:03Speaker 4: about the money that was coming into the Biden crime family.
- 6:07Speaker 4: We now have witnessed the media cover for the president
- 6:10Speaker 4: units it's America, Donald Trump. Let me rephrase that Joe
- 6:13Speaker 4: Biden with his massive cognitive decline, but they said over
- 6:17Speaker 4: and over again, it wasn't happening. So this story is
- 6:22Speaker 4: about transparency, whether there's a list or not. I want
- 6:27Speaker 4: to see it all with making sure that we protect
- 6:31Speaker 4: the victim's identities. I want to make sure that I
- 6:35Speaker 4: don't have to trust the deep state. I believe as
- 6:38Speaker 4: a citizen, I deserve to know what happened. I also
- 6:42Speaker 4: want to know why no one else went to jail.
- 6:45Speaker 4: Can we just go over that again? Why is it
- 6:48Speaker 4: that no one has gone to jail except for one person?
- 6:54Speaker 4: That's it, Maxine, all of this abuse. That is why
- 6:59Speaker 4: concern are angry right now. Now, Notice what the left
- 7:03Speaker 4: is doing. They're going all in on Epstein because they
- 7:07Speaker 4: think it hurts Donald Trump. They're going in not because
- 7:11Speaker 4: they want to protect kids, not because they want justice,
- 7:16Speaker 4: not because they care about whoever abused children being outed
- 7:20Speaker 4: and exposed and maybe even indicted or arrested. Which again,
- 7:24Speaker 4: only one person's gone to jail. No, no, no, they think
- 7:27Speaker 4: this now hurts Donald Trump. And again I go back
- 7:32Speaker 4: to Chris Cuomo. Chris Cuomo, a lefty saying this on
- 7:36Speaker 4: his show about the left, he believes is also making
- 7:38Speaker 4: a huge mistake.
- 7:41Speaker 5: Making a mistake going all in on this Epstein bs.
- 7:45Speaker 5: You did nothing to release any information about this case
- 7:49Speaker 5: on your watch, okay, And you watched a woman go
- 7:53Speaker 5: down for Epstein's crimes and did nothing to add to
- 7:56Speaker 5: any sense of accountability for anybody else then, so going
- 8:01Speaker 5: all in now is obvious and gratuitous and ugly. Okay,
- 8:05Speaker 5: And look I get the play. This is bad for Trump,
- 8:08Speaker 5: so we got to be all in there. You need
- 8:11Speaker 5: to give the majority reason to believe that you would
- 8:15Speaker 5: be better, not that just he is worse. Do you
- 8:19Speaker 5: understand that's the key, Not MAGA sucks, okay, Not that
- 8:25Speaker 5: they lied to you MAGA, So vote for us because
- 8:28Speaker 5: MAGA was formed in part out of desperation for feeling
- 8:32Speaker 5: that you on the left lie and don't deliver. So
- 8:36Speaker 5: this battle of attrition is just going to create two losers.
- 8:40Speaker 5: My suggestion is be less about your opponent and more
- 8:43Speaker 5: about restoring opportunity, less about who is woke and more
- 8:47Speaker 5: about who is broke.
- 8:48Speaker 3: And I agree, by the way, with nine percent of
- 8:51Speaker 3: what Coomo said there.
- 8:52Speaker 4: The left is making a mistake going all in on Epstein,
- 8:55Speaker 4: and you need to give a reason why you're better
- 8:57Speaker 4: and they're not. I'll give you another example, Arb calling
- 9:01Speaker 4: out Raskin today saying you could have gotten the Epstein
- 9:05Speaker 4: files from twenty twenty one to twenty twenty five when
- 9:09Speaker 4: Democrats controlled the DOJ. Why didn't the Democrats call for
- 9:14Speaker 4: the release then?
- 9:15Speaker 1: Right?
- 9:15Speaker 4: Because this is not about actual justices, about attacking Donald Trump.
- 9:19Speaker 4: And Raskin's response was, well, there were other cases going on.
- 9:23Speaker 4: I don't know there are pictures of Trump and Epstein.
- 9:27Speaker 4: That's literally his response. So, in other words, Democrats didn't
- 9:32Speaker 4: care because Democrats are pos's that's what this boils down to.
- 9:38Speaker 4: They only care now because they think this is going
- 9:41Speaker 4: to hurt Donald Trump.
- 9:42Speaker 3: Now.
- 9:43Speaker 4: I also want to be clear why so many conservatives
- 9:45Speaker 4: are frustrated right now.
- 9:47Speaker 3: I am one of them.
- 9:48Speaker 4: I am not demanding that you give me something that
- 9:52Speaker 4: doesn't exist. I'm not demand that you fabricate something, not
- 9:55Speaker 4: demand that you go out and arrest innocent people. I
- 9:59Speaker 4: am demanding transparency This should be about the victims. And
- 10:04Speaker 4: the point I would say to President Trump right now
- 10:07Speaker 4: if I was sitting with him, is, mister President, you
- 10:09Speaker 4: promised transparency. You did it on rfk assassination, you did
- 10:12Speaker 4: it on Martin Luther King, You've done it on many
- 10:16Speaker 4: other issues.
- 10:17Speaker 3: The American people want the same level of transparency, even
- 10:21Speaker 3: if the transparency shows us nothing. I don't know if
- 10:25Speaker 3: there's an Epstein list. I've been told there is an
- 10:28Speaker 3: Epstein list. I've been told that this was there for
- 10:34Speaker 3: a long time. Now.
- 10:35Speaker 4: If that was a lie and I was lied to,
- 10:39Speaker 4: then show me what you do have, show me that
- 10:43Speaker 4: there is maybe not as much there as we thought.
- 10:46Speaker 4: And look, I think one of the reasons why Democrats
- 10:49Speaker 4: talked about the Epstein list is because they kept saying
- 10:52Speaker 4: over and over again, Donald Trump's in the Epstein files.
- 10:55Speaker 4: Donald Trump's in the Epstein list. Donald. They used that
- 10:59Speaker 4: to attack Donald Trump. If there is nothing in there,
- 11:03Speaker 4: then fine. There's a point that's been made by as lawyers.
- 11:06Speaker 4: Most criminals don't keep records of their crimes. That may
- 11:09Speaker 4: be true, but there's a lot of information that's been redacted.
- 11:13Speaker 1: Now.
- 11:13Speaker 4: I want to protect the victims as many conservatives do.
- 11:18Speaker 4: But I also think that I deserve to see more
- 11:22Speaker 4: than what we are seeing right now now. I think
- 11:25Speaker 4: the presence moving towards that. I also want to be
- 11:28Speaker 4: clear about one other thing that's been a lie. There
- 11:31Speaker 4: have been people that have been saying that Donald Trump
- 11:32Speaker 4: can release everything, all of it instantly.
- 11:35Speaker 3: Is the president United It's America. That is a lie.
- 11:37Speaker 3: If you talk to judges and lawyers, they will tell
- 11:40Speaker 3: you no.
- 11:41Speaker 4: Much of what would be released would have to be
- 11:44Speaker 4: approved by judges or by a judge. A great example
- 11:49Speaker 4: of that is all of the witnesses and all the
- 11:53Speaker 4: people that went before the grand jury. That information would
- 11:56Speaker 4: have to be approved by a judge. So when they
- 12:00Speaker 4: tell you that Trump can give you everything, they are
- 12:03Speaker 4: lying to you.
- 12:04Speaker 3: That is not true. He cannot give you everything.
- 12:08Speaker 4: What am I asking for in so many other conservatives
- 12:11Speaker 4: total transparency. Whether it's nothing or whether it's something. We'll
- 12:16Speaker 4: figure that out. And that is the point that many
- 12:19Speaker 4: Americans say they want and also why they voted for
- 12:22Speaker 4: Donald Trump.
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