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Cultivating Hope or Killing Dreams: A Reunion of Educators · The Wheelhouse

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  It's
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  the
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  season
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  nine
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  finale
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  and
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  we're
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  doing
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  it
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  reunion
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  style.
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  Join
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  us
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  for
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  part
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  one.
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  A
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  new
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  episode
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  of
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  the
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  Wheelhouse
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  begins
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  right
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  now.
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  Thank
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  you
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  so
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  much
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  for
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  taking
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  time
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  out
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  of
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  your
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  busy
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  day
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  to
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  give
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  us
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  a
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  listen.
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  Season
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  nine
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  features
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  a
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  pair
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  of
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  four
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  like
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  minded
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  friends
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  and
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  colleagues.
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  Cathy
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  Mone,
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  Michael
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  Pipa,
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  Dr.
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  Alicia
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  Munro,
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  yours
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  truly.
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  We've
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  opened
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  the
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  conversation
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  this
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  season
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  to
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  think
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  about
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  empowering
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  educators
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  to
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  cultivate
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  hope.
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  In
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  this
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  12th
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  episode,
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  we
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  invited
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  all
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  of
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  our
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  guests
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  from
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  season
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  nine
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  to
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  return
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  and
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  to
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  join
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  us
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  to
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  wrap
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  up
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  this
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  season
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  of
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  cultivating
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  Hope
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  or
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  killing
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  Dreams.
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  We
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  were
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  so
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  happy
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  that
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  Jim
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  Veneta,
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  Reuben
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  Britt
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  Jr.
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  And
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  Dr.
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  Shavita
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  west
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  were
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  able
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  to
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  take
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  time
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  out
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  of
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  their
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  busy
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  schedules
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  to
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  join
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  us
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  again
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  here
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  in
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  the
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  Wheelhouse.
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  This
• 1:03
  was
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  such
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  an
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  incredible
• 1:05
  conversation
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  that
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  we'll
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  share
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  it
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  with
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  you
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  in
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  two
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  parts
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  with
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  part
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  two
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  dropping
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  on
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  Tuesday,
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  May
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  20th.
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  In
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  both
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  parts,
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  we
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  focused
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  on
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  three
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  overarching
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  questions.
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  1.
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  Sadly,
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  we
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  know
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  that
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  many
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  students,
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  and
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  this
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  is
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  especially
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  true
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  for
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  those
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  students
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  from
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  marginalized
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  populations,
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  find
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  school
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  to
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  be
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  alienating
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  and
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  even
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  wounding.
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  How
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  can
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  we
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  demonstrate
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  to
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  our
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  students
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  that
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  their
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  lives
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  are
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  unique
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  and
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  precious?
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  Why
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  is
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  it
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  so
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  difficult
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  to
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  find
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  humanity
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  in
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  our
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  classrooms?
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  How
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  might
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  we
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  remedy
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  that?
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  And
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  what
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  will
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  make
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  this
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  even
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  more
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  challenging
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  in
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  the
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  years
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  ahead?
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  2.
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  As
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  we
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  wrap
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  up
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  another
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  school
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  year
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  and
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  prepare
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  for
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  25,
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  26,
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  how
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  should
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  we
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  think
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  about
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  the
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  huge
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  responsibility
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  we
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  accept
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  to
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  ensure
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  that
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  each
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  of
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  our
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  children
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  have
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  open
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  doors
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  and
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  unlimited
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  possibilities?
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  How
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  should
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  we
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  all
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  respond
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  to
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  that
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  charge?
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  And
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  finally,
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  three,
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  from
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  your
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  lens
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  and
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  your
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  areas
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  of
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  expertise,
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  what
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  does
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  it
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  mean
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  and
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  what
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  do
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  we
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  want
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  educators
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  to
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  remember
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  about
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  this
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  season's
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  theme
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  of
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  Cultivating
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  hope
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  or
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  killing
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  Dreams?
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  Keep
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  in
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  mind
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  that
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  at
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  the
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  end
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  of
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  the
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  day,
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  what
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  we
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  do
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  for
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  some
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  children
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  is
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  even
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  bigger
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  than
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  cultivating
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  hope
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  or
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  killing
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  dreams.
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  It's
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  a
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  matter
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  of
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  life
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  and
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  death.
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  You
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  know,
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  this
• 2:27
  was
• 2:27
  such
• 2:27
  a
• 2:27
  great
• 2:28
  conversation
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  and
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  there
• 2:29
  were
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  so
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  many
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  intriguing
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  ideas
• 2:31
  that
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  were
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  brought
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  to
• 2:32
  the
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  space.
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  Listen
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  to
• 2:34
  the
• 2:34
  entire
• 2:35
  episode
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  to
• 2:36
  hear
• 2:36
  the
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  details
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  together.
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  Let's
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  cultivate
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  hope
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  for
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  each
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  and
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  every
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  student.
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  And
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  now,
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  episode
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  12
• 2:44
  in
• 2:45
  a
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  great
• 2:45
  conversation
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  with
• 2:46
  Jim
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  Veneta,
• 2:47
  Reuben
• 2:47
  Britt
• 2:48
  Jr.
• 2:48
  Dr.
• 2:48
  Shira
• 2:49
  DeVest,
• 2:49
  and
• 2:50
  our
• 2:50
  amazing
• 2:51
  panel.
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  You're
• 2:52
  not
• 2:52
  going
• 2:52
  to
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  want
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  to
• 2:53
  miss
• 2:53
  it.
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  Take
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  a
• 2:54
  listen.
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  Good
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  morning
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  and
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  welcome
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  to
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  the
• 3:04
  Wheelhouse.
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  I'm
• 3:05
  your
• 3:05
  host,
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  Andy
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  Cohen.
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  I
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  mean
• 3:07
  Grant
• 3:07
  Chandler.
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  This
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  is
• 3:09
  the
• 3:10
  finale
• 3:10
  of
• 3:11
  episode
• 3:11
  of
• 3:11
  season
• 3:12
  season
• 3:13
  nine.
• 3:13
  We.
• 3:14
  I've
• 3:14
  been
• 3:14
  looking
• 3:14
  forward
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  to
• 3:15
  this
• 3:15
  conversation
• 3:16
  and
• 3:16
  we're
• 3:16
  gonna,
• 3:16
  we
• 3:17
  have
• 3:17
  invited,
• 3:18
  we
• 3:18
  have,
• 3:18
  we've
• 3:18
  invited
• 3:18
  our
• 3:19
  guests
• 3:19
  from
• 3:20
  other
• 3:20
  episodes
• 3:21
  in
• 3:21
  season
• 3:21
  nine
• 3:22
  to
• 3:22
  return
• 3:23
  to
• 3:23
  us
• 3:23
  to
• 3:23
  continue
• 3:24
  the
• 3:24
  conversation
• 3:25
  about
• 3:25
  cultivating
• 3:26
  hope
• 3:26
  or
• 3:26
  killing
• 3:27
  dreams.
• 3:27
  I've
• 3:28
  been
• 3:28
  looking
• 3:28
  forward
• 3:28
  to
• 3:28
  this
• 3:28
  for
• 3:29
  quite
• 3:29
  a
• 3:29
  while
• 3:29
  and
• 3:30
  I'm
• 3:30
  super
• 3:30
  excited
• 3:31
  that
• 3:31
  we
• 3:31
  are
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  going
• 3:32
  to
• 3:32
  wrap
• 3:32
  season
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  nine
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  with
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  such
• 3:34
  really
• 3:34
  cool
• 3:35
  people.
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  So
• 3:36
  in
• 3:36
  true
• 3:37
  Housewives
• 3:38
  of
• 3:38
  Whomever
• 3:39
  fashion,
• 3:39
  it's
• 3:40
  like
• 3:40
  a
• 3:40
  reunion
• 3:41
  at
• 3:41
  the
• 3:41
  Wheelhouse.
• 3:42
  So
• 3:43
  first,
• 3:43
  let's
• 3:43
  say
• 3:43
  good
• 3:44
  morning
• 3:44
  to
• 3:45
  my
• 3:45
  panel.
• 3:46
  My
• 3:46
  dear
• 3:46
  friends
• 3:46
  and
• 3:47
  colleagues,
• 3:47
  Cathy
• 3:48
  Mone,
• 3:48
  Michael,
• 3:48
  Pipa
• 3:49
  and
• 3:49
  Elisa.
• 3:50
  See
• 3:50
  you,
• 3:50
  Monroe.
• 3:51
  Good
• 3:51
  morning.
• 3:52
  Good
• 3:53
  morning.
• 3:54
  Oh
• 3:54
  my
• 3:55
  gosh.
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  I
• 3:55
  couldn't,
• 3:56
  I
• 3:56
  could
• 3:56
  barely
• 3:56
  sleep.
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  It
• 3:57
  was
• 3:57
  like
• 3:57
  the
• 3:57
  night
• 3:58
  before
• 3:58
  school,
• 3:58
  you
• 3:59
  know,
• 3:59
  where
• 3:59
  you
• 3:59
  get
• 3:59
  the
• 3:59
  whole
• 4:00
  jitters,
• 4:00
  all
• 4:00
  that,
• 4:01
  like
• 4:01
  so
• 4:01
  exciting.
• 4:02
  I've
• 4:02
  been
• 4:02
  up
• 4:02
  for
• 4:02
  hours,
• 4:03
  hours,
• 4:04
  hours.
• 4:06
  So,
• 4:07
  you
• 4:07
  know,
• 4:07
  I'm,
• 4:07
  I'm,
• 4:07
  I'm
• 4:08
  excited
• 4:08
  about
• 4:08
  the
• 4:09
  format.
• 4:09
  This
• 4:09
  will
• 4:10
  indeed
• 4:10
  be
• 4:10
  a
• 4:11
  table
• 4:11
  turning
• 4:12
  episode.
• 4:13
  Yay.
• 4:14
  You
• 4:15
  in
• 4:16
  reunion
• 4:16
  fashion.
• 4:17
  You
• 4:17
  have
• 4:17
  no
• 4:18
  idea
• 4:18
  where
• 4:19
  this
• 4:19
  conversation
• 4:20
  is
• 4:20
  going
• 4:20
  to
• 4:21
  go,
• 4:21
  but
• 4:21
  it
• 4:22
  gonna
• 4:22
  be
• 4:23
  spicy.
• 4:24
  So
• 4:25
  we're
• 4:25
  glad
• 4:25
  you're
• 4:26
  all
• 4:26
  here.
• 4:27
  So
• 4:27
  good
• 4:27
  morning.
• 4:27
  Good
• 4:27
  morning,
• 4:28
  Michael.
• 4:29
  Good
• 4:29
  morning.
• 4:30
  It's
• 4:30
  so
• 4:30
  good
• 4:30
  to
• 4:30
  be
• 4:31
  back
• 4:31
  and.
• 4:31
  It'S
• 4:31
  absolutely
• 4:32
  great
• 4:32
  to
• 4:32
  have
• 4:33
  you
• 4:33
  back.
• 4:33
  So
• 4:34
  we
• 4:34
  have
• 4:34
  three
• 4:35
  of
• 4:35
  our
• 4:35
  guests
• 4:36
  and
• 4:36
  then
• 4:36
  we're
• 4:36
  gonna
• 4:36
  have
• 4:36
  a
• 4:36
  mystery
• 4:37
  guest
• 4:37
  show
• 4:37
  up
• 4:37
  later
• 4:37
  on.
• 4:38
  I
• 4:38
  hear
• 4:39
  Andy
• 4:40
  Cohen
• 4:40
  doesn't
• 4:40
  have
• 4:40
  a
• 4:40
  doorbell.
• 4:45
  Here
• 4:46
  we
• 4:46
  are
• 4:46
  at
• 4:46
  the
• 4:46
  door.
• 4:47
  Here's
• 4:48
  the
• 4:48
  spice.
• 4:48
  Already.
• 4:49
  We're
• 4:49
  spicy
• 4:50
  already.
• 4:50
  We're
• 4:51
  spicy
• 4:51
  already.
• 4:52
  I'm
• 4:52
  really
• 4:52
  excited
• 4:52
  to
• 4:53
  welco
• 4:54
  our
• 4:54
  guests
• 4:54
  back
• 4:55
  to
• 4:55
  the
• 4:55
  wheelhouse.
• 4:55
  You
• 4:56
  know,
• 4:56
  season
• 4:56
  nine
• 4:56
  has
• 4:57
  been,
• 4:58
  I
• 4:58
  think,
• 4:58
  just
• 4:58
  a
• 4:58
  really,
• 4:59
  really
• 4:59
  powerful
• 5:00
  set
• 5:00
  of
• 5:01
  conversations.
• 5:01
  And
• 5:02
  if
• 5:02
  you're
• 5:02
  listening
• 5:02
  for
• 5:02
  the
• 5:03
  first
• 5:03
  time
• 5:03
  to
• 5:03
  this,
• 5:03
  to
• 5:04
  this
• 5:04
  season,
• 5:05
  to
• 5:06
  this
• 5:06
  finale
• 5:07
  episode,
• 5:07
  I
• 5:07
  encourage
• 5:07
  you
• 5:08
  to
• 5:08
  go
• 5:08
  back
• 5:09
  to
• 5:09
  the
• 5:09
  first
• 5:10
  11
• 5:10
  episodes
• 5:11
  because
• 5:11
  there's
• 5:11
  some
• 5:11
  powerful
• 5:12
  conversations
• 5:13
  with
• 5:13
  some
• 5:13
  amazing
• 5:14
  educators.
• 5:16
  And
• 5:16
  you
• 5:17
  know,
• 5:17
  we're
• 5:17
  going
• 5:17
  to
• 5:17
  extend
• 5:18
  that
• 5:18
  conversation
• 5:19
  today.
• 5:19
  And
• 5:20
  you
• 5:20
  know,
• 5:20
  in
• 5:20
  this
• 5:20
  two
• 5:20
  part,
• 5:21
  in
• 5:21
  this
• 5:21
  two
• 5:22
  part
• 5:22
  conversation.
• 5:23
  But
• 5:24
  I'm
• 5:24
  going
• 5:24
  to
• 5:24
  bring
• 5:24
  in
• 5:25
  my
• 5:25
  guests
• 5:25
  in
• 5:25
  and
• 5:27
  reintroduce
• 5:28
  them.
• 5:30
  And
• 5:30
  I'm
• 5:30
  going
• 5:30
  to
• 5:31
  start
• 5:31
  with
• 5:32
  Jim
• 5:32
  Vaneda
• 5:33
  who
• 5:33
  was
• 5:34
  the
• 5:34
  first
• 5:34
  one
• 5:34
  to
• 5:34
  join
• 5:35
  us
• 5:35
  in
• 5:35
  the
• 5:35
  wheelhouse
• 5:36
  today.
• 5:36
  This
• 5:36
  morning.
• 5:37
  Jim
• 5:37
  is
• 5:38
  an
• 5:38
  administrator
• 5:39
  in
• 5:40
  a
• 5:40
  charter
• 5:40
  school
• 5:41
  somewhere
• 5:42
  in
• 5:42
  a
• 5:42
  location
• 5:43
  near
• 5:43
  you
• 5:44
  and
• 5:45
  he
• 5:46
  was
• 5:46
  with
• 5:46
  us
• 5:46
  twice.
• 5:47
  He
• 5:47
  joined
• 5:48
  us
• 5:48
  in
• 5:48
  a
• 5:48
  conversation
• 5:49
  last
• 5:49
  season
• 5:50
  around
• 5:51
  powerful
• 5:51
  student
• 5:51
  care
• 5:52
  and
• 5:52
  he
• 5:52
  returned
• 5:53
  graciously
• 5:55
  in
• 5:55
  this
• 5:55
  season.
• 5:56
  So
• 5:56
  Jim,
• 5:57
  welcome
• 5:57
  back
• 5:58
  again
• 5:59
  to
• 5:59
  the
• 5:59
  Wheelhouse.
• 6:01
  Good
• 6:01
  morning.
• 6:01
  It
• 6:02
  is
• 6:02
  an
• 6:02
  absolute
• 6:03
  pleasure
• 6:03
  to
• 6:03
  be
• 6:03
  back.
• 6:04
  I
• 6:04
  was
• 6:05
  trying
• 6:05
  to
• 6:05
  come
• 6:05
  up
• 6:06
  with
• 6:06
  a
• 6:06
  good
• 6:06
  like
• 6:06
  housewife
• 6:07
  catchphrase
• 6:08
  to
• 6:09
  do
• 6:09
  my
• 6:09
  twirl
• 6:09
  with.
• 6:09
  I
• 6:10
  didn't
• 6:10
  come
• 6:10
  up
• 6:10
  with
• 6:10
  anything.
• 6:11
  But,
• 6:12
  Andy,
• 6:12
  thank
• 6:13
  you
• 6:13
  for
• 6:13
  having
• 6:13
  me
• 6:13
  on.
• 6:13
  I
• 6:14
  mean,
• 6:14
  Grant,
• 6:15
  great
• 6:15
  to
• 6:16
  have
• 6:16
  you.
• 6:16
  Great
• 6:16
  to
• 6:16
  have
• 6:17
  you.
• 6:17
  Right.
• 6:17
  So
• 6:18
  we're
• 6:18
  thrilled
• 6:18
  you're
• 6:19
  here.
• 6:20
  Also
• 6:20
  joining
• 6:21
  us
• 6:21
  is
• 6:22
  Reuben
• 6:22
  Britt,
• 6:23
  who
• 6:23
  is
• 6:24
  a
• 6:24
  higher
• 6:25
  ed
• 6:25
  administrator
• 6:26
  and
• 6:26
  teacher.
• 6:28
  He
• 6:28
  has
• 6:28
  been
• 6:28
  in
• 6:29
  education
• 6:29
  for
• 6:29
  a
• 6:30
  few
• 6:30
  years
• 6:30
  longer
• 6:31
  than
• 6:31
  Grant
• 6:31
  Chandler.
• 6:33
  We
• 6:33
  won't
• 6:33
  mention
• 6:33
  that
• 6:34
  number.
• 6:34
  He
• 6:35
  is
• 6:35
  also
• 6:36
  the
• 6:36
  co
• 6:37
  author,
• 6:37
  if
• 6:37
  you
• 6:37
  remember
• 6:38
  from
• 6:38
  earlier
• 6:39
  episodes,
• 6:39
  he's
• 6:40
  the
• 6:40
  co
• 6:40
  author
• 6:40
  with
• 6:41
  Dr.
• 6:41
  Monroe
• 6:42
  of
• 6:42
  an
• 6:42
  amazing
• 6:43
  book.
• 6:43
  Don't
• 6:44
  dismiss
• 6:44
  my
• 6:45
  story.
• 6:45
  It
• 6:46
  was
• 6:46
  a
• 6:46
  great
• 6:46
  conversation
• 6:47
  that
• 6:47
  we
• 6:47
  had
• 6:48
  with
• 6:48
  Ruben.
• 6:48
  I'm
• 6:49
  so
• 6:49
  glad
• 6:49
  you
• 6:49
  were
• 6:49
  back.
• 6:50
  So,
• 6:50
  Ruben
• 6:50
  Britt,
• 6:51
  thank
• 6:51
  you
• 6:51
  for
• 6:51
  joining
• 6:52
  us
• 6:52
  this
• 6:52
  morning.
• 6:53
  Rand,
• 6:54
  thank
• 6:54
  you
• 6:54
  for
• 6:54
  having
• 6:54
  me.
• 6:55
  It's
• 6:55
  always
• 6:56
  a
• 6:56
  joy
• 6:56
  to
• 6:56
  be
• 6:56
  a
• 6:57
  part
• 6:57
  of
• 6:57
  a
• 6:57
  group
• 6:57
  that
• 6:58
  is
• 6:59
  trying
• 7:00
  to
• 7:00
  make
• 7:00
  a
• 7:00
  difference
• 7:03
  and
• 7:03
  talking
• 7:03
  about
• 7:03
  issues
• 7:04
  that
• 7:04
  are
• 7:05
  applicable
• 7:06
  to
• 7:06
  higher
• 7:07
  education.
• 7:08
  Well,
• 7:09
  we're
• 7:09
  thrilled
• 7:09
  to
• 7:09
  have
• 7:10
  you.
• 7:10
  Your
• 7:10
  whole
• 7:10
  career
• 7:10
  is
• 7:11
  about
• 7:11
  making
• 7:11
  a
• 7:11
  difference,
• 7:12
  sir.
• 7:12
  So
• 7:13
  it
• 7:13
  has
• 7:13
  been,
• 7:13
  it's
• 7:13
  absolute
• 7:14
  pleasure
• 7:14
  to
• 7:14
  have
• 7:15
  you
• 7:15
  join
• 7:15
  us
• 7:15
  again
• 7:16
  in
• 7:16
  the
• 7:16
  wheelhouse
• 7:17
  for
• 7:18
  these
• 7:19
  two
• 7:19
  conversations.
• 7:20
  And
• 7:20
  then
• 7:21
  also
• 7:21
  joining
• 7:22
  us
• 7:22
  today
• 7:22
  is
• 7:22
  Dr.
• 7:23
  Shavita
• 7:23
  west,
• 7:24
  who
• 7:24
  is
• 7:25
  a
• 7:25
  former
• 7:26
  elementary
• 7:27
  principal.
• 7:27
  She
• 7:27
  is
• 7:28
  a
• 7:28
  principal
• 7:28
  coach
• 7:29
  now
• 7:29
  by
• 7:29
  way
• 7:30
  of
• 7:30
  Georgia.
• 7:31
  She's
• 7:31
  writing
• 7:32
  an
• 7:32
  amazing
• 7:33
  book.
• 7:33
  You
• 7:33
  heard
• 7:34
  her
• 7:34
  talk
• 7:34
  about
• 7:34
  sensory
• 7:35
  learning
• 7:35
  spaces.
• 7:37
  It
• 7:37
  was
• 7:37
  a
• 7:38
  great
• 7:38
  conversation
• 7:39
  and
• 7:39
  we
• 7:39
  are
• 7:40
  so
• 7:40
  glad
• 7:40
  to
• 7:40
  have
• 7:41
  her
• 7:41
  back.
• 7:41
  Good
• 7:41
  morning,
• 7:42
  Dr.
• 7:42
  West.
• 7:43
  Good
• 7:43
  morning.
• 7:43
  Good
• 7:44
  morning.
• 7:44
  I'm
• 7:44
  so
• 7:44
  glad
• 7:45
  to
• 7:45
  be
• 7:45
  back
• 7:46
  and
• 7:46
  to
• 7:46
  meet
• 7:46
  two
• 7:46
  new
• 7:47
  friends
• 7:47
  this
• 7:47
  morning.
• 7:48
  So,
• 7:48
  so
• 7:48
  looking
• 7:49
  forward
• 7:49
  to
• 7:49
  this
• 7:49
  really
• 7:50
  powerful
• 7:50
  conversation.
• 7:52
  Well,
• 7:52
  good
• 7:53
  morning,
• 7:53
  everybody.
• 7:53
  Hope
• 7:54
  you're
• 7:54
  all
• 7:54
  doing
• 7:54
  well.
• 7:55
  And
• 7:55
  we
• 7:55
  will
• 7:55
  be
• 7:55
  joined
• 7:56
  later
• 7:56
  by
• 7:56
  a
• 7:56
  mystery
• 7:57
  guest
• 7:58
  when
• 7:58
  the
• 7:58
  doorbell,
• 7:59
  when
• 7:59
  the
• 8:00
  doorbell
• 8:00
  rings.
• 8:01
  So
• 8:01
  what
• 8:02
  I
• 8:02
  thought
• 8:02
  we
• 8:02
  would
• 8:02
  do
• 8:02
  is
• 8:02
  just,
• 8:03
  I've
• 8:03
  just
• 8:03
  got
• 8:03
  a
• 8:04
  couple
• 8:04
  of
• 8:04
  questions
• 8:04
  that
• 8:05
  kind
• 8:05
  of,
• 8:06
  kind
• 8:06
  of
• 8:06
  move
• 8:07
  the
• 8:07
  conversation
• 8:08
  in
• 8:08
  very
• 8:09
  powerful
• 8:09
  ways.
• 8:10
  And
• 8:10
  we're
• 8:10
  just
• 8:10
  going
• 8:10
  to
• 8:10
  all
• 8:11
  jump
• 8:11
  in.
• 8:11
  And
• 8:12
  I
• 8:12
  can't
• 8:13
  wait
• 8:13
  to
• 8:13
  hear
• 8:13
  what
• 8:13
  you
• 8:14
  have
• 8:15
  to
• 8:16
  say.
• 8:17
  You
• 8:17
  know,
• 8:17
  we've
• 8:17
  talked
• 8:18
  a
• 8:18
  lot
• 8:19
  in
• 8:19
  this,
• 8:20
  in
• 8:20
  this
• 8:20
  season
• 8:21
  about
• 8:22
  the
• 8:23
  importance
• 8:23
  of
• 8:24
  what
• 8:25
  we
• 8:25
  do
• 8:25
  in
• 8:25
  the
• 8:25
  work
• 8:26
  that
• 8:26
  and
• 8:26
  you
• 8:26
  all
• 8:26
  do,
• 8:27
  you
• 8:27
  all
• 8:28
  do
• 8:28
  similar
• 8:28
  work
• 8:29
  in
• 8:29
  terms
• 8:29
  of
• 8:30
  supporting
• 8:30
  each
• 8:31
  and
• 8:31
  every
• 8:31
  student.
• 8:31
  And
• 8:32
  you
• 8:32
  do
• 8:32
  it
• 8:32
  very
• 8:32
  differently,
• 8:33
  but
• 8:34
  with
• 8:34
  the,
• 8:34
  with
• 8:35
  the
• 8:35
  different
• 8:35
  areas
• 8:36
  of
• 8:36
  expertise
• 8:38
  that
• 8:38
  you
• 8:38
  bring
• 8:38
  to
• 8:39
  the
• 8:39
  table.
• 8:40
  But,
• 8:40
  you
• 8:41
  know,
• 8:41
  for
• 8:41
  years
• 8:41
  we
• 8:42
  have
• 8:42
  known
• 8:44
  that
• 8:45
  many
• 8:46
  students,
• 8:46
  and
• 8:47
  especially
• 8:47
  students
• 8:48
  from
• 8:48
  marginalized
• 8:50
  populations,
• 8:52
  children
• 8:52
  of
• 8:53
  color,
• 8:53
  LGBTQIA
• 8:55
  students,
• 8:57
  children
• 8:57
  who
• 8:57
  live
• 8:58
  in
• 8:58
  poverty,
• 8:58
  children
• 8:59
  who
• 8:59
  have
• 8:59
  IEPs,
• 9:00
  children
• 9:00
  who
• 9:00
  are
• 9:01
  English
• 9:01
  language
• 9:01
  learners,
• 9:02
  children
• 9:02
  who
• 9:03
  are
• 9:03
  here
• 9:04
  from
• 9:04
  another
• 9:05
  country.
• 9:05
  And
• 9:05
  we
• 9:06
  could
• 9:06
  go
• 9:06
  on
• 9:06
  and
• 9:07
  on,
• 9:07
  sadly,
• 9:08
  on
• 9:08
  and
• 9:08
  on,
• 9:08
  sadly,
• 9:09
  about
• 9:09
  who
• 9:10
  gets
• 9:10
  marginalized
• 9:12
  in
• 9:12
  this
• 9:12
  country.
• 9:14
  But
• 9:14
  we
• 9:14
  know
• 9:15
  that
• 9:16
  many
• 9:16
  students
• 9:16
  and
• 9:17
  they
• 9:17
  don't
• 9:17
  have
• 9:17
  to
• 9:18
  be
• 9:18
  from
• 9:18
  a
• 9:18
  marginalized
• 9:19
  population.
• 9:19
  But
• 9:20
  it's
• 9:20
  even,
• 9:20
  especially
• 9:21
  more
• 9:21
  true
• 9:21
  for
• 9:22
  those
• 9:22
  who
• 9:22
  are
• 9:22
  find
• 9:23
  school
• 9:24
  and
• 9:24
  schooling
• 9:25
  to
• 9:25
  be
• 9:26
  alienating
• 9:27
  and
• 9:28
  even
• 9:28
  wounding.
• 9:30
  So
• 9:31
  in
• 9:31
  that
• 9:31
  light,
• 9:32
  we've
• 9:33
  been
• 9:33
  talking
• 9:33
  about
• 9:34
  the
• 9:34
  opposite
• 9:34
  of
• 9:35
  that.
• 9:35
  And
• 9:36
  so
• 9:36
  I
• 9:36
  just
• 9:36
  want
• 9:36
  to
• 9:37
  have
• 9:37
  a
• 9:37
  conversation
• 9:38
  about
• 9:39
  why
• 9:39
  and
• 9:40
  how
• 9:41
  we
• 9:41
  can
• 9:41
  demonstrate
• 9:42
  to
• 9:43
  each
• 9:43
  and
• 9:43
  every
• 9:43
  student
• 9:44
  that
• 9:44
  their
• 9:44
  life
• 9:44
  is
• 9:45
  unique,
• 9:46
  their
• 9:46
  life
• 9:46
  is
• 9:47
  precious,
• 9:47
  that
• 9:48
  they
• 9:48
  matter.
• 9:49
  And
• 9:50
  then
• 9:50
  my
• 9:50
  bigger
• 9:50
  question
• 9:51
  is,
• 9:51
  why
• 9:51
  is
• 9:52
  that
• 9:52
  so
• 9:52
  hard?
• 9:55
  Just
• 9:55
  a
• 9:55
  real
• 9:55
  light
• 9:56
  and
• 9:56
  easy
• 9:56
  question.
• 9:57
  You
• 9:57
  know.
• 10:00
  There
• 10:00
  was
• 10:00
  silence
• 10:01
  in
• 10:01
  this
• 10:01
  space.
• 10:01
  Thank
• 10:02
  you
• 10:02
  for
• 10:02
  breaking
• 10:02
  that
• 10:02
  silence,
• 10:03
  Jim.
• 10:03
  You
• 10:04
  know,
• 10:04
  I'm
• 10:04
  here
• 10:04
  to
• 10:05
  do
• 10:05
  that.
• 10:05
  Silence
• 10:05
  makes
• 10:06
  me
• 10:06
  uncomfortable.
• 10:07
  As
• 10:07
  an
• 10:07
  educator,
• 10:07
  I
• 10:08
  really
• 10:08
  should
• 10:08
  have
• 10:09
  learned
• 10:09
  to
• 10:10
  sit
• 10:10
  with
• 10:10
  silence.
• 10:11
  It's
• 10:11
  not
• 10:12
  my
• 10:12
  thing.
• 10:15
  But
• 10:15
  I,
• 10:16
  I
• 10:16
  remember
• 10:17
  the
• 10:17
  conversation
• 10:18
  we
• 10:18
  had
• 10:18
  last
• 10:19
  I
• 10:19
  was
• 10:19
  on.
• 10:19
  We
• 10:19
  talked
• 10:20
  a
• 10:20
  lot
• 10:20
  about
• 10:20
  systems
• 10:21
  and,
• 10:21
  and
• 10:22
  rigidity
• 10:22
  of,
• 10:23
  of
• 10:23
  systems.
• 10:25
  And
• 10:26
  those
• 10:27
  are
• 10:27
  created
• 10:28
  with
• 10:28
  ease
• 10:28
  in
• 10:29
  mind,
• 10:30
  with
• 10:30
  efficiency.
• 10:32
  They're
• 10:32
  not
• 10:32
  very
• 10:33
  human.
• 10:34
  Right.
• 10:35
  So
• 10:35
  we
• 10:36
  as
• 10:36
  educators,
• 10:37
  I,
• 10:38
  I
• 10:38
  think
• 10:38
  it's,
• 10:39
  it's
• 10:39
  our
• 10:39
  job
• 10:39
  to
• 10:40
  introduce
• 10:40
  the
• 10:41
  humanity
• 10:42
  to.
• 10:43
  As
• 10:43
  I
• 10:44
  would
• 10:44
  say,
• 10:44
  there
• 10:44
  is
• 10:44
  not
• 10:45
  a
• 10:45
  single
• 10:45
  educator
• 10:45
  who
• 10:46
  thinks
• 10:46
  that
• 10:46
  our
• 10:46
  current
• 10:46
  education
• 10:47
  system
• 10:47
  is
• 10:49
  perfectly
• 10:50
  working.
• 10:51
  Right.
• 10:51
  There
• 10:52
  are
• 10:52
  flaws
• 10:53
  in
• 10:53
  our
• 10:53
  day
• 10:54
  to
• 10:54
  day
• 10:55
  that
• 10:55
  impact
• 10:56
  us,
• 10:56
  that
• 10:56
  impact
• 10:57
  our
• 10:57
  students.
• 10:59
  But
• 10:59
  my
• 10:59
  short
• 11:00
  answer
• 11:00
  is
• 11:00
  introducing
• 11:01
  humanity
• 11:02
  into
• 11:03
  rigid
• 11:03
  systems
• 11:05
  to
• 11:06
  help
• 11:06
  students
• 11:06
  feel
• 11:07
  welcome,
• 11:07
  wanted
• 11:08
  and
• 11:08
  loved.
• 11:09
  I
• 11:09
  would
• 11:10
  add
• 11:10
  to
• 11:10
  that.
• 11:11
  To
• 11:11
  be
• 11:12
  able
• 11:12
  to
• 11:14
  introduce
• 11:14
  humanity
• 11:15
  into
• 11:17
  cultures
• 11:18
  where
• 11:18
  there
• 11:19
  is
• 11:19
  these
• 11:19
  rigid
• 11:20
  systems
• 11:20
  in
• 11:20
  place,
• 11:21
  we
• 11:21
  have
• 11:21
  to
• 11:22
  humanize
• 11:23
  our
• 11:23
  clients
• 11:24
  who
• 11:24
  were
• 11:24
  really
• 11:25
  there
• 11:25
  to
• 11:25
  support
• 11:26
  and
• 11:26
  serve.
• 11:27
  We
• 11:27
  have
• 11:27
  to
• 11:27
  see
• 11:28
  them
• 11:28
  beyond
• 11:29
  the
• 11:29
  behaviors.
• 11:30
  We
• 11:30
  have
• 11:30
  to
• 11:30
  see
• 11:31
  beyond
• 11:32
  some
• 11:32
  of
• 11:32
  the
• 11:32
  things
• 11:33
  that
• 11:33
  the
• 11:34
  labels
• 11:34
  that
• 11:34
  we
• 11:34
  give
• 11:35
  them
• 11:36
  that
• 11:36
  become
• 11:36
  instant
• 11:37
  barriers
• 11:38
  to
• 11:38
  their
• 11:39
  learning
• 11:39
  in
• 11:40
  the
• 11:40
  classroom.
• 11:41
  I
• 11:41
  think
• 11:42
  in
• 11:42
  education
• 11:43
  we
• 11:43
  have
• 11:44
  a
• 11:44
  way
• 11:45
  of
• 11:46
  setting
• 11:46
  up
• 11:47
  students
• 11:47
  before
• 11:48
  we
• 11:48
  even
• 11:49
  get
• 11:49
  an
• 11:50
  opportunity
• 11:50
  to
• 11:51
  really
• 11:51
  delve
• 11:51
  deep
• 11:52
  into
• 11:53
  what
• 11:53
  they
• 11:54
  need
• 11:54
  and
• 11:54
  how
• 11:55
  we
• 11:55
  can
• 11:56
  show
• 11:56
  up
• 11:56
  to
• 11:56
  support
• 11:57
  them.
• 11:58
  I
• 11:58
  think
• 11:58
  we
• 11:58
  get
• 11:59
  so
• 11:59
  bogged
• 11:59
  down
• 11:59
  with
• 12:00
  the
• 12:00
  system.
• 12:01
  Jim,
• 12:01
  you
• 12:01
  mentioned
• 12:02
  those
• 12:02
  structures
• 12:03
  that
• 12:03
  we
• 12:03
  have,
• 12:04
  that
• 12:04
  school
• 12:05
  has
• 12:05
  become
• 12:06
  very
• 12:06
  structured
• 12:07
  oriented
• 12:08
  versus
• 12:08
  very
• 12:09
  student
• 12:10
  oriented.
• 12:12
  I'd
• 12:13
  just
• 12:13
  like
• 12:13
  to
• 12:14
  add
• 12:14
  to
• 12:15
  what
• 12:15
  Jim
• 12:16
  and
• 12:16
  Shavita
• 12:17
  just
• 12:17
  said.
• 12:18
  I
• 12:19
  think
• 12:19
  it's
• 12:19
  important
• 12:20
  to
• 12:20
  have
• 12:20
  authentic
• 12:21
  engagement.
• 12:22
  And
• 12:23
  through
• 12:23
  that
• 12:24
  students
• 12:25
  will
• 12:25
  have
• 12:25
  a
• 12:25
  better
• 12:26
  understanding
• 12:26
  of
• 12:27
  not
• 12:27
  only
• 12:27
  self,
• 12:28
  but
• 12:28
  also
• 12:29
  it
• 12:29
  provides
• 12:30
  them
• 12:30
  with
• 12:31
  a
• 12:31
  foundation
• 12:32
  that
• 12:33
  they
• 12:33
  exist,
• 12:34
  that
• 12:34
  they
• 12:35
  are
• 12:35
  somebody.
• 12:36
  And
• 12:36
  all
• 12:36
  too
• 12:36
  often
• 12:38
  students
• 12:38
  are
• 12:39
  stereotyped.
• 12:41
  And
• 12:41
  I
• 12:42
  think
• 12:42
  it's
• 12:42
  part
• 12:43
  of
• 12:43
  the
• 12:43
  training
• 12:45
  of
• 12:45
  these
• 12:46
  educators
• 12:46
  and
• 12:47
  they
• 12:47
  continue
• 12:47
  to
• 12:48
  live
• 12:48
  on.
• 12:49
  And
• 12:50
  when
• 12:50
  we
• 12:51
  get
• 12:51
  new
• 12:51
  teachers
• 12:51
  that
• 12:51
  come
• 12:52
  into
• 12:52
  the
• 12:52
  system,
• 12:53
  they
• 12:53
  kind
• 12:53
  of
• 12:54
  breathe
• 12:54
  it
• 12:54
  on
• 12:55
  them
• 12:55
  too
• 12:56
  that
• 12:56
  these
• 12:57
  students
• 12:57
  are
• 12:57
  this
• 12:57
  way
• 12:58
  or
• 12:58
  that
• 12:58
  way
• 12:58
  and
• 12:58
  they're
• 12:59
  quick
• 12:59
  to
• 13:00
  characterize
• 13:00
  them,
• 13:02
  even
• 13:02
  recommend
• 13:04
  prescription
• 13:04
  drugs
• 13:05
  for
• 13:05
  them.
• 13:06
  And
• 13:06
  it
• 13:06
  goes
• 13:06
  on
• 13:06
  and
• 13:07
  on.
• 13:07
  But
• 13:07
  it's
• 13:07
  important
• 13:08
  that
• 13:08
  we
• 13:09
  have
• 13:09
  a
• 13:10
  authentic
• 13:10
  engagement
• 13:11
  with
• 13:11
  the
• 13:11
  students
• 13:11
  that
• 13:12
  they
• 13:12
  understand
• 13:13
  you
• 13:13
  and
• 13:13
  that
• 13:13
  you're
• 13:14
  listening.
• 13:14
  That's
• 13:14
  the
• 13:14
  bottom
• 13:15
  line.
• 13:16
  You
• 13:17
  must
• 13:17
  be
• 13:17
  a
• 13:17
  listener.
• 13:18
  We,
• 13:19
  we
• 13:19
  talk
• 13:19
  about
• 13:19
  this,
• 13:19
  and
• 13:20
  I'm
• 13:20
  not
• 13:20
  trying
• 13:20
  to
• 13:20
  promote
• 13:21
  the
• 13:21
  book,
• 13:21
  but
• 13:21
  we
• 13:21
  talk
• 13:21
  about
• 13:22
  communicative
• 13:23
  action
• 13:24
  where
• 13:25
  both
• 13:25
  parties
• 13:25
  are
• 13:25
  learning
• 13:26
  from
• 13:26
  each
• 13:26
  other.
• 13:27
  And
• 13:27
  if
• 13:28
  you
• 13:28
  don't
• 13:28
  know
• 13:28
  the
• 13:29
  student,
• 13:29
  then
• 13:30
  don't
• 13:30
  judge
• 13:31
  them
• 13:31
  based
• 13:32
  on
• 13:32
  that.
• 13:32
  Sometimes
• 13:33
  just
• 13:33
  a
• 13:33
  brief
• 13:34
  conversation
• 13:34
  can
• 13:34
  turn
• 13:35
  a
• 13:35
  student
• 13:35
  around.
• 13:37
  You
• 13:37
  know,
• 13:38
  I
• 13:38
  agree,
• 13:39
  agree,
• 13:39
  agree.
• 13:39
  Right,
• 13:40
  Absolutely.
• 13:40
  And
• 13:41
  you
• 13:41
  know
• 13:41
  the
• 13:41
  word
• 13:42
  label,
• 13:42
  you
• 13:42
  know,
• 13:43
  we.
• 13:44
  Well,
• 13:44
  I
• 13:45
  don't
• 13:45
  know
• 13:45
  why
• 13:45
  we
• 13:46
  are
• 13:46
  so
• 13:46
  good
• 13:47
  in
• 13:47
  education
• 13:47
  about
• 13:48
  labeling
• 13:49
  children.
• 13:50
  It's
• 13:50
  like
• 13:51
  we
• 13:51
  have
• 13:51
  to
• 13:52
  put
• 13:52
  a
• 13:52
  label
• 13:53
  on
• 13:54
  them
• 13:54
  in
• 13:55
  order
• 13:55
  to
• 13:55
  deal
• 13:56
  with
• 13:56
  them.
• 13:56
  Right.
• 13:57
  And
• 13:57
  the
• 13:58
  label
• 13:58
  is
• 13:58
  never
• 13:58
  human.
• 13:59
  It's
• 14:00
  always
• 14:00
  a
• 14:00
  descriptive
• 14:01
  label
• 14:02
  of
• 14:02
  something
• 14:03
  in
• 14:03
  some
• 14:04
  way
• 14:04
  that
• 14:04
  they
• 14:05
  connect
• 14:05
  or
• 14:05
  disconnect
• 14:06
  to
• 14:06
  the
• 14:06
  system.
• 14:06
  Why
• 14:07
  do
• 14:07
  we
• 14:07
  have
• 14:07
  to
• 14:07
  label
• 14:07
  children
• 14:08
  gen
• 14:09
  ed
• 14:09
  children,
• 14:10
  special
• 14:10
  ed
• 14:11
  children.
• 14:12
  Right.
• 14:13
  I
• 14:13
  mean,
• 14:14
  you
• 14:14
  hear
• 14:14
  things
• 14:14
  like,
• 14:14
  well,
• 14:15
  they're
• 14:15
  a
• 14:15
  trauma
• 14:15
  kid,
• 14:16
  they're
• 14:16
  a
• 14:16
  tier
• 14:17
  two
• 14:17
  kid.
• 14:17
  They're
• 14:17
  a
• 14:20
  Stop.
• 14:21
  Right,
• 14:22
  stop.
• 14:22
  Those
• 14:22
  labels
• 14:23
  are
• 14:23
  alienating
• 14:24
  and
• 14:25
  wounding
• 14:26
  and
• 14:26
  they're
• 14:26
  simply
• 14:27
  a,
• 14:28
  they're
• 14:28
  a
• 14:28
  symptom
• 14:29
  of
• 14:30
  that
• 14:30
  rigid
• 14:31
  system
• 14:32
  and
• 14:32
  trying
• 14:32
  to
• 14:33
  put
• 14:33
  children
• 14:34
  into
• 14:34
  a
• 14:34
  rigid
• 14:35
  system.
• 14:36
  And
• 14:36
  then
• 14:37
  when
• 14:37
  Jim
• 14:37
  started
• 14:37
  to
• 14:38
  speak,
• 14:40
  I
• 14:41
  really
• 14:41
  thought
• 14:41
  about
• 14:42
  systems.
• 14:42
  And
• 14:43
  we
• 14:43
  had
• 14:43
  a
• 14:43
  real
• 14:44
  extensive
• 14:44
  conversation
• 14:45
  around
• 14:45
  systems.
• 14:47
  And
• 14:47
  then
• 14:47
  I
• 14:48
  think
• 14:48
  about
• 14:49
  the
• 14:49
  Bowman
• 14:49
  and
• 14:50
  Diehl
• 14:50
  human
• 14:50
  resource
• 14:51
  frame.
• 14:52
  And
• 14:52
  as
• 14:52
  we
• 14:53
  sit
• 14:53
  within
• 14:53
  that,
• 14:55
  I
• 14:56
  just
• 14:56
  see
• 14:56
  that
• 14:56
  the
• 14:57
  premise
• 14:57
  of
• 14:57
  power
• 14:58
  is
• 14:58
  flipped
• 14:59
  on
• 14:59
  its
• 14:59
  head
• 15:01
  where
• 15:02
  the
• 15:02
  system
• 15:03
  is
• 15:03
  controlling
• 15:03
  the
• 15:04
  humans
• 15:05
  instead
• 15:05
  of
• 15:05
  the
• 15:06
  humans
• 15:06
  are
• 15:06
  controlling
• 15:07
  the
• 15:07
  system.
• 15:08
  So
• 15:08
  I
• 15:08
  did
• 15:09
  hear
• 15:09
  someone
• 15:09
  else
• 15:10
  try
• 15:10
  to.
• 15:10
  I
• 15:11
  really
• 15:11
  want.
• 15:11
  And,
• 15:12
  and
• 15:12
  I,
• 15:12
  and
• 15:13
  I
• 15:13
  know
• 15:13
  I
• 15:13
  popped
• 15:14
  in
• 15:14
  my
• 15:14
  comment.
• 15:15
  I,
• 15:15
  I
• 15:16
  really
• 15:16
  want
• 15:16
  to
• 15:16
  unpack
• 15:17
  this
• 15:17
  before
• 15:17
  we
• 15:18
  move
• 15:18
  forward
• 15:18
  because
• 15:19
  if
• 15:19
  we're
• 15:20
  really
• 15:20
  focusing
• 15:21
  on
• 15:22
  that
• 15:23
  self
• 15:23
  reflection
• 15:24
  and
• 15:24
  that
• 15:24
  introspection
• 15:25
  that
• 15:26
  we
• 15:26
  need
• 15:26
  to
• 15:26
  take
• 15:27
  right.
• 15:28
  As
• 15:28
  deliverers
• 15:29
  of
• 15:29
  service
• 15:30
  for
• 15:30
  human
• 15:30
  needs.
• 15:32
  Okay.
• 15:33
  Welcome
• 15:33
  to
• 15:33
  education.
• 15:35
  And
• 15:35
  we
• 15:35
  are
• 15:35
  toggling
• 15:36
  between
• 15:37
  are
• 15:37
  we
• 15:37
  cultivating
• 15:38
  hope
• 15:39
  and
• 15:40
  versus
• 15:41
  are
• 15:41
  we
• 15:41
  killing
• 15:41
  dreams?
• 15:42
  We
• 15:42
  really
• 15:43
  need
• 15:43
  to
• 15:43
  focus
• 15:44
  on
• 15:44
  who's
• 15:45
  controlling
• 15:45
  the
• 15:46
  narrative
• 15:46
  and
• 15:46
  the
• 15:47
  movement
• 15:47
  in
• 15:47
  the
• 15:47
  system.
• 15:48
  It
• 15:49
  has
• 15:49
  really
• 15:49
  gotten
• 15:49
  to
• 15:50
  the
• 15:50
  point
• 15:50
  where,
• 15:51
  although
• 15:51
  it's
• 15:52
  a
• 15:52
  human
• 15:52
  resource
• 15:53
  frame,
• 15:53
  okay.
• 15:54
  From
• 15:54
  the
• 15:55
  foundation
• 15:55
  of
• 15:56
  this
• 15:56
  country,
• 15:57
  education,
• 15:58
  the
• 15:58
  system
• 15:58
  is
• 15:59
  controlling
• 15:59
  a
• 15:59
  human
• 16:00
  being.
• 16:01
  The
• 16:01
  human
• 16:01
  beings
• 16:02
  aren't
• 16:02
  controlling
• 16:03
  the
• 16:03
  system.
• 16:04
  I'd
• 16:04
  like
• 16:04
  to
• 16:04
  unpack
• 16:05
  that
• 16:05
  before
• 16:05
  we
• 16:05
  go
• 16:06
  further.
• 16:07
  I'm
• 16:08
  so
• 16:08
  glad
• 16:08
  you
• 16:08
  raised
• 16:09
  that
• 16:10
  and
• 16:10
  put
• 16:10
  it
• 16:11
  in
• 16:11
  that
• 16:11
  frame,
• 16:12
  Alicia.
• 16:13
  Jim,
• 16:14
  when
• 16:14
  you
• 16:14
  started
• 16:15
  by
• 16:16
  Asking
• 16:16
  or
• 16:17
  inviting
• 16:17
  us
• 16:17
  to
• 16:17
  think
• 16:18
  about
• 16:18
  how
• 16:20
  we
• 16:20
  get
• 16:20
  carried
• 16:21
  by
• 16:21
  systemic
• 16:22
  inertia
• 16:22
  almost.
• 16:23
  That's
• 16:23
  kind
• 16:23
  of
• 16:23
  my,
• 16:24
  my
• 16:24
  way
• 16:24
  of
• 16:24
  thinking
• 16:25
  about
• 16:25
  it.
• 16:26
  I'm
• 16:27
  reminded
• 16:28
  of
• 16:29
  the
• 16:29
  cognitive
• 16:30
  and
• 16:30
  learning
• 16:30
  science
• 16:31
  of
• 16:32
  how
• 16:32
  the
• 16:32
  brain
• 16:34
  seeks
• 16:34
  to
• 16:34
  automate
• 16:36
  tasks
• 16:37
  that
• 16:37
  are
• 16:37
  going
• 16:37
  to
• 16:38
  be
• 16:38
  repeated.
• 16:39
  And
• 16:39
  that's
• 16:40
  how
• 16:40
  we
• 16:41
  often
• 16:41
  function
• 16:42
  cognitively.
• 16:45
  And
• 16:45
  that's,
• 16:46
  that's
• 16:46
  helpful
• 16:47
  because
• 16:47
  it
• 16:47
  frees
• 16:48
  up
• 16:48
  our
• 16:48
  minds
• 16:49
  to
• 16:49
  do
• 16:49
  other
• 16:49
  important
• 16:50
  work.
• 16:51
  But
• 16:52
  it
• 16:52
  can
• 16:52
  become
• 16:53
  incredibly
• 16:54
  unhelpful
• 16:55
  and
• 16:56
  debilitating
• 16:57
  if
• 16:59
  we
• 16:59
  adopt
• 17:00
  the
• 17:00
  shorthand
• 17:02
  thinking
• 17:02
  of
• 17:03
  the
• 17:03
  bureaucratic
• 17:04
  system.
• 17:05
  And
• 17:07
  to
• 17:08
  your
• 17:08
  initial
• 17:09
  question,
• 17:09
  Grant,
• 17:09
  why
• 17:10
  is
• 17:10
  it
• 17:10
  so
• 17:10
  hard?
• 17:12
  You
• 17:12
  know,
• 17:12
  the
• 17:13
  system
• 17:13
  exists
• 17:14
  to
• 17:14
  produce
• 17:14
  convenience.
• 17:17
  And
• 17:18
  so
• 17:18
  we
• 17:18
  want
• 17:18
  to
• 17:18
  believe
• 17:19
  that
• 17:20
  our
• 17:20
  jobs
• 17:21
  are,
• 17:22
  are
• 17:22
  really
• 17:23
  repetitive
• 17:24
  and
• 17:24
  can
• 17:24
  be
• 17:24
  automated
• 17:25
  to
• 17:25
  a
• 17:25
  certain
• 17:26
  extent.
• 17:26
  We
• 17:26
  like
• 17:27
  to
• 17:27
  narrow
• 17:27
  things
• 17:27
  and
• 17:28
  simplify
• 17:28
  things.
• 17:29
  We
• 17:29
  like
• 17:30
  to
• 17:30
  think
• 17:30
  that
• 17:30
  our
• 17:30
  work
• 17:31
  as
• 17:31
  educators
• 17:31
  is
• 17:32
  about
• 17:32
  disseminating
• 17:33
  content.
• 17:33
  We
• 17:34
  like
• 17:34
  to,
• 17:34
  to
• 17:35
  narrow
• 17:35
  in
• 17:35
  those
• 17:35
  ways.
• 17:37
  But
• 17:37
  maybe
• 17:38
  the
• 17:38
  essential
• 17:39
  awareness
• 17:40
  we
• 17:40
  need
• 17:40
  to
• 17:40
  cultivate
• 17:41
  in
• 17:41
  ourselves
• 17:42
  and,
• 17:42
  and
• 17:43
  each
• 17:43
  other
• 17:44
  is
• 17:45
  that
• 17:46
  this
• 17:46
  isn't
• 17:46
  automatic.
• 17:49
  That
• 17:49
  when
• 17:50
  it
• 17:50
  comes
• 17:51
  to
• 17:51
  us
• 17:52
  working
• 17:53
  with
• 17:53
  another
• 17:53
  person
• 17:54
  to
• 17:54
  develop
• 17:55
  learning
• 17:55
  and
• 17:56
  sense
• 17:56
  of
• 17:56
  self,
• 17:57
  none
• 17:57
  of
• 17:57
  that
• 17:57
  is
• 17:58
  automatic.
• 17:59
  Everything
• 18:00
  is
• 18:00
  made
• 18:01
  all
• 18:01
  over
• 18:01
  again
• 18:02
  from
• 18:02
  scratch
• 18:02
  in
• 18:03
  so
• 18:03
  many
• 18:03
  important
• 18:04
  ways.
• 18:06
  Certain
• 18:06
  things
• 18:07
  can
• 18:07
  be
• 18:07
  automated,
• 18:08
  but
• 18:09
  not
• 18:09
  the
• 18:09
  relationship,
• 18:10
  not
• 18:10
  the
• 18:10
  understanding,
• 18:11
  not
• 18:12
  the
• 18:12
  learning,
• 18:12
  and
• 18:12
  not
• 18:13
  the
• 18:13
  pathway
• 18:14
  we
• 18:14
  take
• 18:14
  to
• 18:15
  achieve
• 18:15
  those
• 18:15
  things.
• 18:17
  So
• 18:18
  I'm,
• 18:18
  I'm
• 18:19
  just
• 18:19
  being
• 18:20
  thoughtful
• 18:20
  about
• 18:20
  how,
• 18:22
  how
• 18:22
  our
• 18:22
  brains
• 18:23
  tend
• 18:23
  to
• 18:23
  work
• 18:24
  and
• 18:25
  how
• 18:25
  we
• 18:25
  often
• 18:26
  look
• 18:27
  past
• 18:27
  really
• 18:28
  essential
• 18:29
  questions
• 18:29
  we
• 18:30
  need
• 18:30
  to
• 18:30
  ask
• 18:30
  ourselves
• 18:31
  before
• 18:31
  we
• 18:31
  start.
• 18:32
  And
• 18:33
  I
• 18:33
  think
• 18:33
  within.
• 18:34
  Yeah,
• 18:34
  Michael.
• 18:35
  I
• 18:35
  think
• 18:35
  within
• 18:35
  our
• 18:35
  spaces,
• 18:36
  I
• 18:36
  think
• 18:36
  Reuben
• 18:38
  mentioned
• 18:39
  this,
• 18:39
  that
• 18:39
  we,
• 18:40
  within
• 18:40
  our,
• 18:41
  our
• 18:41
  school,
• 18:42
  our
• 18:42
  district
• 18:42
  cultures,
• 18:43
  we
• 18:43
  perpetuate
• 18:44
  that
• 18:46
  when
• 18:46
  new
• 18:47
  teachers,
• 18:48
  new
• 18:48
  staff
• 18:48
  are
• 18:48
  brought
• 18:49
  into
• 18:49
  this
• 18:50
  space,
• 18:52
  they're
• 18:52
  listening,
• 18:53
  they're
• 18:53
  watching.
• 18:54
  And
• 18:55
  so
• 18:56
  when
• 18:57
  we
• 18:57
  are
• 18:57
  using
• 18:58
  words
• 18:58
  in
• 18:59
  our
• 18:59
  actions
• 19:01
  that
• 19:02
  really
• 19:02
  perpetuate
• 19:03
  that
• 19:03
  thinking,
• 19:04
  then
• 19:04
  we
• 19:05
  are
• 19:05
  just
• 19:05
  continuing
• 19:07
  to
• 19:08
  cultivate
• 19:08
  that,
• 19:09
  right?
• 19:10
  We're
• 19:10
  killing
• 19:11
  dreams.
• 19:11
  And
• 19:12
  within
• 19:12
  that
• 19:13
  space,
• 19:13
  those
• 19:14
  just
• 19:14
  the
• 19:14
  words.
• 19:15
  I
• 19:15
  mean,
• 19:15
  I
• 19:15
  had
• 19:15
  this
• 19:16
  conversation
• 19:16
  recently
• 19:17
  with
• 19:17
  one
• 19:17
  of
• 19:17
  my
• 19:18
  team
• 19:18
  members.
• 19:19
  Think
• 19:19
  about
• 19:19
  your
• 19:20
  word
• 19:20
  choice
• 19:21
  and
• 19:21
  what
• 19:22
  message
• 19:22
  you're
• 19:22
  sending
• 19:23
  with
• 19:23
  that
• 19:24
  and
• 19:25
  just
• 19:25
  simply
• 19:25
  stop,
• 19:27
  stop
• 19:27
  saying
• 19:27
  that.
• 19:28
  What
• 19:29
  can
• 19:29
  you
• 19:29
  shift?
• 19:29
  What
• 19:30
  can
• 19:30
  you
• 19:30
  say
• 19:31
  that
• 19:31
  allows
• 19:32
  for
• 19:32
  this
• 19:33
  space
• 19:34
  to
• 19:34
  be
• 19:34
  about
• 19:35
  cultivating
• 19:36
  hope
• 19:36
  instead
• 19:37
  of
• 19:37
  killing
• 19:37
  dreams?
• 19:39
  Kathy,
• 19:39
  I
• 19:39
  just
• 19:40
  want
• 19:40
  to
• 19:40
  just
• 19:41
  add
• 19:41
  to
• 19:41
  that.
• 19:44
  I'm
• 19:45
  going
• 19:45
  to
• 19:45
  use
• 19:45
  this
• 19:45
  as
• 19:45
  metaphor.
• 19:47
  A
• 19:48
  drug
• 19:48
  addict
• 19:48
  or
• 19:49
  alcoholic
• 19:51
  cannot
• 19:51
  be
• 19:52
  cured
• 19:53
  unless
• 19:53
  they
• 19:53
  do
• 19:54
  self
• 19:54
  reflection
• 19:54
  until
• 19:55
  they
• 19:55
  say,
• 19:56
  I
• 19:56
  have
• 19:56
  a
• 19:56
  problem,
• 19:56
  I'm
• 19:57
  an
• 19:57
  alcoholic.
• 19:59
  Teachers,
• 19:59
  educators
• 20:01
  are
• 20:01
  not
• 20:02
  going
• 20:02
  to
• 20:02
  change
• 20:03
  until
• 20:03
  they
• 20:04
  understand
• 20:04
  that
• 20:06
  they
• 20:06
  are
• 20:06
  part
• 20:06
  of
• 20:07
  the,
• 20:08
  the
• 20:08
  colonization
• 20:09
  of
• 20:10
  education.
• 20:11
  And
• 20:11
  when
• 20:11
  you
• 20:11
  look
• 20:12
  at
• 20:12
  the
• 20:12
  root
• 20:12
  of
• 20:12
  colonization.
• 20:14
  It's
• 20:14
  all
• 20:14
  about
• 20:15
  control,
• 20:17
  dominance.
• 20:18
  And
• 20:19
  in
• 20:19
  the
• 20:19
  process,
• 20:20
  those
• 20:20
  people
• 20:20
  who
• 20:20
  are
• 20:20
  part
• 20:21
  of
• 20:21
  it
• 20:21
  don't
• 20:22
  even
• 20:22
  realize
• 20:24
  that
• 20:24
  they
• 20:24
  are
• 20:24
  colonized,
• 20:25
  and
• 20:26
  they
• 20:26
  just
• 20:26
  think
• 20:26
  it's
• 20:27
  normal.
• 20:28
  I
• 20:29
  have
• 20:29
  to
• 20:29
  add
• 20:30
  to
• 20:30
  that
• 20:30
  because
• 20:31
  I
• 20:31
  think
• 20:31
  it's
• 20:31
  a
• 20:31
  bigger
• 20:32
  picture
• 20:34
  when
• 20:34
  we
• 20:34
  have
• 20:35
  teachers
• 20:36
  and
• 20:36
  principals
• 20:37
  who
• 20:38
  are,
• 20:39
  for
• 20:39
  lack
• 20:40
  of
• 20:40
  better
• 20:40
  terms,
• 20:41
  boots
• 20:41
  on
• 20:41
  the
• 20:41
  ground.
• 20:42
  But
• 20:42
  we
• 20:43
  have
• 20:43
  the
• 20:44
  decisions
• 20:45
  of
• 20:46
  what's
• 20:46
  happening
• 20:47
  in
• 20:47
  schools
• 20:48
  made
• 20:48
  from
• 20:51
  a
• 20:51
  higher
• 20:51
  level,
• 20:53
  and
• 20:53
  we
• 20:54
  have
• 20:54
  policies
• 20:55
  and
• 20:56
  legislature
• 20:57
  that
• 20:57
  comes
• 20:57
  down.
• 20:58
  That,
• 20:59
  to
• 20:59
  me,
• 20:59
  dehumanizes
• 21:01
  the
• 21:01
  work
• 21:02
  that
• 21:02
  educators
• 21:03
  do.
• 21:04
  But
• 21:04
  there's
• 21:05
  very
• 21:05
  much
• 21:05
  an
• 21:06
  expectation
• 21:07
  of
• 21:07
  delivery.
• 21:08
  There
• 21:09
  becomes
• 21:09
  a
• 21:09
  disconnect.
• 21:11
  It
• 21:11
  is
• 21:11
  us
• 21:12
  following
• 21:13
  what
• 21:13
  someone
• 21:14
  else
• 21:14
  has
• 21:14
  designed
• 21:15
  as
• 21:15
  a
• 21:15
  plan.
• 21:16
  You
• 21:16
  know,
• 21:17
  all
• 21:17
  of
• 21:17
  us
• 21:17
  have
• 21:17
  worked
• 21:18
  with
• 21:18
  new
• 21:18
  teachers
• 21:19
  who
• 21:19
  come
• 21:19
  in,
• 21:20
  and
• 21:20
  I
• 21:20
  feel
• 21:21
  like
• 21:21
  they
• 21:21
  are
• 21:21
  so
• 21:21
  full
• 21:22
  of
• 21:22
  hope,
• 21:23
  and
• 21:23
  they
• 21:23
  want
• 21:23
  to
• 21:24
  change,
• 21:25
  right?
• 21:25
  They
• 21:25
  want
• 21:25
  to
• 21:26
  change
• 21:26
  the
• 21:26
  world.
• 21:27
  They
• 21:27
  want
• 21:27
  to
• 21:28
  empower
• 21:28
  their
• 21:29
  students
• 21:29
  to
• 21:29
  be,
• 21:30
  you
• 21:31
  know,
• 21:31
  great
• 21:31
  and
• 21:31
  to
• 21:31
  focus
• 21:32
  on
• 21:32
  all
• 21:32
  the
• 21:33
  things
• 21:34
  that
• 21:34
  I
• 21:34
  feel
• 21:34
  like
• 21:35
  we're
• 21:35
  talking
• 21:35
  about.
• 21:36
  But
• 21:36
  then
• 21:37
  we
• 21:37
  start
• 21:37
  regulating
• 21:38
  what
• 21:38
  that
• 21:38
  looks
• 21:39
  like.
• 21:40
  And
• 21:40
  in
• 21:40
  order
• 21:40
  to
• 21:40
  get
• 21:40
  this
• 21:41
  result,
• 21:41
  we
• 21:42
  need
• 21:42
  this
• 21:42
  curriculum
• 21:43
  taught.
• 21:43
  We
• 21:43
  need
• 21:44
  this
• 21:44
  curriculum
• 21:44
  taught
• 21:45
  in
• 21:45
  this
• 21:45
  way
• 21:46
  that
• 21:47
  it
• 21:47
  becomes
• 21:48
  this
• 21:48
  colonization
• 21:49
  that
• 21:50
  happens
• 21:51
  because
• 21:53
  we're
• 21:53
  aspiring
• 21:54
  to,
• 21:54
  or
• 21:55
  we're
• 21:55
  following
• 21:56
  guidelines
• 21:56
  that
• 21:57
  are
• 21:57
  not
• 21:58
  necessarily
• 21:58
  created
• 21:59
  with
• 22:00
  the
• 22:00
  best
• 22:00
  intentions
• 22:01
  of
• 22:01
  kids
• 22:01
  in
• 22:01
  mind.
• 22:02
  And
• 22:02
  so
• 22:03
  it's
• 22:03
  a
• 22:04
  combination,
• 22:04
  right,
• 22:05
  of
• 22:05
  what
• 22:05
  Shavita
• 22:06
  has
• 22:06
  just
• 22:06
  said,
• 22:07
  and
• 22:08
  also
• 22:08
  helping
• 22:09
  educators.
• 22:11
  You
• 22:11
  know,
• 22:13
  I
• 22:13
  want
• 22:13
  to
• 22:13
  echo
• 22:14
  also
• 22:14
  what
• 22:14
  Ruben
• 22:15
  said,
• 22:15
  because
• 22:15
  we
• 22:16
  are.
• 22:17
  We
• 22:17
  as
• 22:17
  educators,
• 22:18
  right?
• 22:20
  We
• 22:20
  have
• 22:20
  to
• 22:21
  recognize
• 22:21
  that
• 22:21
  we're
• 22:22
  part
• 22:22
  of
• 22:22
  the
• 22:22
  problem,
• 22:23
  right?
• 22:23
  We
• 22:23
  didn't
• 22:24
  inherit
• 22:24
  it,
• 22:24
  we
• 22:24
  didn't
• 22:25
  cause
• 22:25
  it,
• 22:25
  but
• 22:25
  we're
• 22:26
  part
• 22:26
  of
• 22:26
  it.
• 22:26
  And
• 22:27
  we
• 22:27
  have
• 22:27
  to
• 22:27
  be
• 22:27
  willing
• 22:27
  to
• 22:27
  look
• 22:28
  in
• 22:28
  the
• 22:28
  mirror.
• 22:28
  We
• 22:28
  have
• 22:29
  to
• 22:29
  be
• 22:29
  willing
• 22:29
  to
• 22:30
  do
• 22:30
  something
• 22:31
  differently.
• 22:32
  It's
• 22:32
  really
• 22:32
  interesting
• 22:33
  because
• 22:33
  as
• 22:34
  I
• 22:34
  travel
• 22:34
  around
• 22:35
  and
• 22:35
  talk
• 22:35
  to
• 22:36
  teachers
• 22:37
  about
• 22:37
  powerful
• 22:38
  student
• 22:38
  care,
• 22:39
  and,
• 22:39
  you
• 22:39
  know,
• 22:39
  I
• 22:40
  often
• 22:40
  hear,
• 22:41
  well,
• 22:41
  we
• 22:42
  already
• 22:42
  do
• 22:42
  that.
• 22:43
  If
• 22:43
  we
• 22:43
  were
• 22:44
  really
• 22:44
  doing
• 22:44
  that,
• 22:44
  we
• 22:45
  would
• 22:45
  have
• 22:45
  very
• 22:45
  different
• 22:46
  outcomes.
• 22:47
  We
• 22:47
  would
• 22:48
  have
• 22:48
  a
• 22:48
  very.
• 22:48
  So
• 22:48
  I,
• 22:48
  you
• 22:49
  know.
• 22:49
  And
• 22:49
  so
• 22:49
  I,
• 22:49
  you
• 22:49
  know,
• 22:50
  I
• 22:50
  always
• 22:50
  counter
• 22:51
  that
• 22:51
  with,
• 22:51
  you
• 22:52
  know,
• 22:52
  I
• 22:52
  know
• 22:53
  you.
• 22:54
  I
• 22:54
  know
• 22:54
  that's
• 22:54
  what
• 22:54
  you
• 22:55
  intend,
• 22:56
  right?
• 22:56
  I
• 22:56
  absolutely
• 22:57
  believe
• 22:57
  that's
• 22:57
  what
• 22:58
  you
• 22:58
  intend
• 22:58
  to.
• 22:59
  But
• 22:59
  is
• 22:59
  that
• 23:00
  what
• 23:00
  each
• 23:00
  student
• 23:00
  experiences?
• 23:03
  Because
• 23:03
  there's
• 23:04
  a
• 23:04
  difference,
• 23:04
  right?
• 23:05
  There's
• 23:05
  a
• 23:05
  difference.
• 23:06
  And
• 23:07
  I
• 23:07
  think.
• 23:10
  What
• 23:10
  we're
• 23:10
  talking
• 23:11
  about.
• 23:11
  Is
• 23:11
  so
• 23:12
  important
• 23:12
  to
• 23:13
  the
• 23:13
  conversation
• 23:14
  because
• 23:15
  there's
• 23:15
  the
• 23:15
  rigidity
• 23:16
  of
• 23:16
  systems,
• 23:17
  there's
• 23:17
  the
• 23:17
  efficiencies.
• 23:18
  There's
• 23:18
  all
• 23:18
  of
• 23:18
  this,
• 23:19
  however,
• 23:20
  and
• 23:20
  there's
• 23:20
  the
• 23:21
  legislation
• 23:21
  which
• 23:22
  messes
• 23:23
  everything
• 23:23
  up,
• 23:23
  right?
• 23:23
  Because
• 23:24
  you
• 23:24
  got
• 23:24
  people
• 23:25
  who
• 23:25
  are
• 23:25
  making
• 23:25
  decisions
• 23:26
  that
• 23:26
  don't
• 23:26
  know
• 23:26
  what
• 23:26
  they're
• 23:26
  talking
• 23:27
  about.
• 23:27
  But
• 23:28
  at
• 23:28
  the
• 23:28
  end
• 23:28
  of
• 23:28
  the
• 23:28
  day,
• 23:29
  educators
• 23:30
  are
• 23:30
  the
• 23:30
  one
• 23:30
  in
• 23:30
  the
• 23:30
  classrooms.
• 23:31
  Educators
• 23:32
  are
• 23:32
  the
• 23:32
  ones
• 23:33
  interacting
• 23:33
  with
• 23:33
  students
• 23:34
  on
• 23:34
  a
• 23:34
  daily
• 23:34
  basis.
• 23:36
  They
• 23:36
  have
• 23:36
  decisions
• 23:37
  to
• 23:37
  make
• 23:38
  on
• 23:38
  a
• 23:38
  daily
• 23:39
  basis
• 23:39
  for
• 23:39
  each
• 23:40
  and
• 23:40
  every
• 23:40
  child.
• 23:41
  Right?
• 23:42
  So
• 23:42
  I
• 23:42
  hear
• 23:42
  three
• 23:43
  key
• 23:43
  words.
• 23:43
  I
• 23:44
  hear
• 23:44
  colonization
• 23:45
  disconnects.
• 23:46
  And
• 23:46
  I'd
• 23:46
  like
• 23:46
  to
• 23:47
  add
• 23:47
  another
• 23:47
  piece
• 23:47
  to
• 23:48
  that
• 23:48
  conditioning.
• 23:49
  And
• 23:49
  I
• 23:50
  heard
• 23:50
  Dr.
• 23:51
  West
• 23:51
  say,
• 23:51
  when
• 23:52
  teachers
• 23:52
  come
• 23:52
  in,
• 23:52
  they're
• 23:53
  hopeful,
• 23:54
  they're
• 23:54
  energetic,
• 23:56
  and
• 23:56
  then
• 23:57
  they
• 23:57
  hit
• 23:57
  the
• 23:57
  system.
• 23:58
  Boom.
• 24:01
  And
• 24:02
  it.
• 24:02
  And
• 24:03
  it's
• 24:03
  almost
• 24:03
  like
• 24:03
  a
• 24:04
  collision.
• 24:04
  Boom,
• 24:06
  Right.
• 24:07
  All
• 24:07
  of
• 24:07
  a
• 24:07
  sudden,
• 24:07
  they
• 24:08
  start
• 24:08
  to
• 24:08
  insulate
• 24:09
  themselves
• 24:10
  inside
• 24:10
  their
• 24:11
  safe
• 24:11
  spaces,
• 24:12
  which
• 24:12
  is
• 24:12
  their
• 24:12
  classroom.
• 24:14
  They
• 24:14
  may
• 24:14
  want
• 24:14
  to
• 24:15
  venture
• 24:15
  out
• 24:15
  maybe
• 24:16
  once
• 24:16
  or
• 24:16
  twice
• 24:17
  a
• 24:17
  day
• 24:19
  for
• 24:19
  personal
• 24:19
  reasons
• 24:20
  or
• 24:21
  if
• 24:21
  they
• 24:21
  have
• 24:21
  a
• 24:21
  duty,
• 24:22
  and
• 24:22
  then
• 24:23
  they
• 24:23
  scurry
• 24:23
  back
• 24:24
  in
• 24:24
  their
• 24:24
  safe
• 24:24
  space.
• 24:25
  If
• 24:26
  it's
• 24:26
  not
• 24:26
  safe
• 24:26
  for
• 24:27
  our
• 24:27
  educators,
• 24:27
  it's
• 24:28
  definitely
• 24:28
  not
• 24:29
  safe
• 24:29
  for
• 24:29
  our
• 24:29
  students.
• 24:30
  So
• 24:30
  this
• 24:31
  has
• 24:31
  always
• 24:31
  been
• 24:32
  a
• 24:32
  for
• 24:32
  real
• 24:32
  conversation
• 24:33
  on
• 24:34
  the
• 24:34
  wheelhouse.
• 24:35
  Okay?
• 24:36
  So
• 24:37
  as
• 24:37
  Dr.
• 24:38
  West
• 24:38
  says,
• 24:39
  Shavita
• 24:40
  says
• 24:40
  there
• 24:40
  are
• 24:40
  disconnects
• 24:41
  in
• 24:41
  the
• 24:41
  system.
• 24:43
  Reuben
• 24:43
  says
• 24:44
  they're
• 24:44
  colonized
• 24:45
  space.
• 24:46
  Jim
• 24:46
  has
• 24:47
  identified,
• 24:48
  hey,
• 24:48
  it's
• 24:49
  the
• 24:49
  system.
• 24:50
  So
• 24:51
  Michael
• 24:52
  said,
• 24:53
  if
• 24:53
  we're
• 24:53
  human
• 24:54
  and
• 24:54
  we
• 24:55
  have
• 24:55
  authentic
• 24:56
  relationship,
• 24:58
  right?
• 24:58
  Let's.
• 24:59
  Let's
• 24:59
  step
• 25:00
  out
• 25:00
  of
• 25:00
  the
• 25:00
  way
• 25:01
  of
• 25:02
  being
• 25:02
  conveyors,
• 25:03
  the
• 25:04
  almighty
• 25:04
  gurus
• 25:05
  and
• 25:05
  conveyors
• 25:06
  of
• 25:06
  this
• 25:06
  knowledge,
• 25:07
  wisdom,
• 25:08
  and
• 25:08
  intellect
• 25:10
  and
• 25:10
  just
• 25:10
  be
• 25:11
  human.
• 25:13
  That's
• 25:13
  how
• 25:14
  we're
• 25:14
  going
• 25:14
  to
• 25:15
  get
• 25:15
  to
• 25:16
  whole
• 25:17
  educator,
• 25:18
  whole
• 25:18
  students,
• 25:19
  powerful
• 25:20
  student
• 25:21
  care.
• 25:22
  But
• 25:22
  Ruben
• 25:23
  is
• 25:23
  right.
• 25:23
  We
• 25:23
  have
• 25:23
  to
• 25:23
  sit
• 25:24
  with
• 25:24
  ourselves
• 25:24
  first.
• 25:25
  So
• 25:26
  it's
• 25:26
  just
• 25:27
  a
• 25:27
  comment.
• 25:27
  And
• 25:28
  as
• 25:28
  I
• 25:28
  go
• 25:29
  around
• 25:29
  the
• 25:29
  country
• 25:30
  and
• 25:30
  internationally,
• 25:32
  people
• 25:32
  don't
• 25:32
  like
• 25:33
  to
• 25:33
  sit
• 25:33
  with
• 25:33
  themselves.
• 25:35
  Let's
• 25:36
  be
• 25:36
  critical
• 25:36
  of
• 25:37
  others.
• 25:37
  I
• 25:37
  look
• 25:38
  at
• 25:38
  everyone
• 25:38
  except
• 25:39
  for
• 25:39
  myself.
• 25:39
  The
• 25:40
  blame
• 25:40
  game
• 25:40
  is
• 25:41
  real,
• 25:41
  folks.
• 25:44
  But
• 25:44
  yet
• 25:44
  we're
• 25:44
  supposed
• 25:45
  to
• 25:45
  be
• 25:45
  servants,
• 25:48
  and
• 25:48
  we're
• 25:48
  supposed
• 25:48
  to
• 25:49
  serve
• 25:49
  with
• 25:50
  humility,
• 25:50
  to
• 25:51
  dignify
• 25:52
  others.
• 25:53
  So
• 25:53
  I'd
• 25:53
  like
• 25:53
  to
• 25:53
  throw
• 25:54
  that
• 25:54
  out
• 25:54
  for
• 25:54
  some
• 25:55
  conversation.
• 25:56
  Alicia,
• 25:57
  you
• 25:57
  reminded
• 25:58
  me
• 25:58
  of
• 25:59
  a
• 25:59
  dear
• 26:00
  friend
• 26:00
  and
• 26:00
  colleague
• 26:01
  who
• 26:02
  was
• 26:02
  finishing
• 26:02
  his
• 26:03
  career
• 26:03
  as
• 26:03
  I
• 26:03
  was
• 26:04
  starting
• 26:04
  mine.
• 26:05
  And
• 26:08
  he
• 26:08
  would.
• 26:10
  He
• 26:10
  would
• 26:11
  say
• 26:12
  disruptive
• 26:13
  things
• 26:13
  to
• 26:14
  me
• 26:15
  to
• 26:16
  begin
• 26:16
  my
• 26:16
  day,
• 26:17
  do
• 26:17
  disruptive
• 26:18
  things
• 26:19
  by
• 26:19
  walking
• 26:20
  by
• 26:20
  my
• 26:20
  classroom
• 26:21
  and
• 26:22
  maybe
• 26:22
  making
• 26:22
  an
• 26:23
  obscene
• 26:23
  gesture
• 26:24
  that
• 26:24
  the
• 26:24
  students
• 26:24
  could
• 26:25
  see
• 26:25
  in
• 26:26
  my
• 26:26
  direction
• 26:27
  to
• 26:27
  see
• 26:27
  what
• 26:27
  I
• 26:28
  would
• 26:28
  do.
• 26:29
  And
• 26:29
  he
• 26:30
  would
• 26:30
  then,
• 26:30
  you
• 26:31
  know,
• 26:31
  come
• 26:31
  in
• 26:31
  and.
• 26:32
  And
• 26:32
  say
• 26:32
  in
• 26:33
  front
• 26:33
  of
• 26:33
  the
• 26:33
  kids
• 26:34
  things
• 26:34
  like,
• 26:35
  so,
• 26:35
  Mr.
• 26:36
  Pipe,
• 26:36
  I
• 26:36
  hope
• 26:36
  you're
• 26:37
  being
• 26:37
  a
• 26:37
  good
• 26:37
  custodian
• 26:39
  of
• 26:39
  the
• 26:39
  American
• 26:40
  popular
• 26:40
  culture
• 26:41
  today.
• 26:43
  He
• 26:43
  would
• 26:44
  come
• 26:44
  by
• 26:45
  and
• 26:45
  say
• 26:45
  things
• 26:46
  to
• 26:46
  me
• 26:47
  like,
• 26:48
  I
• 26:48
  noticed,
• 26:48
  Mr.
• 26:49
  Piper,
• 26:49
  that
• 26:49
  not
• 26:50
  all
• 26:50
  the
• 26:50
  students
• 26:50
  in
• 26:51
  this
• 26:51
  room
• 26:51
  are
• 26:52
  white,
• 26:52
  but
• 26:52
  you
• 26:52
  are.
• 26:56
  And
• 26:56
  I'd
• 26:57
  say,
• 26:57
  well,
• 26:58
  Mr.
• 26:59
  Milligan,
• 26:59
  so
• 27:00
  are
• 27:00
  you.
• 27:00
  He
• 27:00
  said,
• 27:00
  yeah,
• 27:01
  but
• 27:01
  I'm
• 27:01
  not
• 27:01
  a
• 27:01
  practicing
• 27:02
  white
• 27:02
  person.
• 27:03
  And
• 27:03
  he
• 27:03
  walked
• 27:04
  away.
• 27:08
  And
• 27:09
  throughout
• 27:10
  those
• 27:11
  first
• 27:11
  few
• 27:11
  years
• 27:12
  that
• 27:12
  I
• 27:13
  learned
• 27:13
  from
• 27:13
  him
• 27:14
  and
• 27:14
  we
• 27:14
  worked
• 27:14
  together,
• 27:15
  he
• 27:16
  was
• 27:16
  always
• 27:17
  making
• 27:17
  me
• 27:17
  look
• 27:17
  at
• 27:18
  myself
• 27:20
  and
• 27:21
  pay
• 27:21
  attention
• 27:23
  to
• 27:23
  my
• 27:23
  thoughts.
• 27:23
  And
• 27:24
  he'd
• 27:24
  listen
• 27:25
  to
• 27:25
  me
• 27:25
  opine
• 27:26
  in
• 27:27
  response
• 27:27
  to
• 27:27
  questions
• 27:28
  he
• 27:28
  was
• 27:28
  raising.
• 27:32
  And
• 27:32
  that
• 27:32
  disruption
• 27:33
  of
• 27:34
  my
• 27:34
  thinking.
• 27:34
  The
• 27:34
  boom,
• 27:35
  as
• 27:35
  you
• 27:35
  described,
• 27:37
  when
• 27:37
  our
• 27:37
  new
• 27:37
  teachers
• 27:38
  meet
• 27:39
  the
• 27:39
  reality
• 27:40
  of
• 27:41
  this
• 27:41
  ponderous
• 27:42
  bureaucracy,
• 27:45
  the
• 27:45
  boom
• 27:45
  happens
• 27:46
  in
• 27:46
  so
• 27:46
  many
• 27:46
  different
• 27:47
  ways.
• 27:47
  And
• 27:47
  you
• 27:47
  said
• 27:48
  we
• 27:48
  retreat
• 27:48
  to
• 27:48
  our
• 27:48
  safe
• 27:49
  spaces,
• 27:49
  our
• 27:49
  classrooms.
• 27:50
  And
• 27:51
  I
• 27:51
  think
• 27:51
  we
• 27:51
  also
• 27:51
  retreat
• 27:52
  to
• 27:52
  our
• 27:52
  safe
• 27:53
  spaces
• 27:54
  in
• 27:54
  our
• 27:54
  own
• 27:55
  minds.
• 27:56
  And
• 27:56
  those
• 27:57
  safe
• 27:57
  spaces
• 27:58
  are
• 27:58
  biases
• 28:00
  of
• 28:01
  all
• 28:01
  different
• 28:01
  kinds.
• 28:02
  And
• 28:04
  so
• 28:05
  that
• 28:06
  constant
• 28:08
  normalizing
• 28:10
  and
• 28:11
  normalizing
• 28:12
  of
• 28:12
  the
• 28:13
  necessary
• 28:13
  discomfort
• 28:14
  and
• 28:14
  distress
• 28:15
  that
• 28:15
  we
• 28:15
  have
• 28:15
  to
• 28:16
  experience
• 28:17
  as
• 28:17
  educators
• 28:19
  in
• 28:19
  order
• 28:19
  to
• 28:19
  liberate
• 28:20
  ourselves,
• 28:21
  to
• 28:21
  become
• 28:21
  available,
• 28:23
  and
• 28:23
  to
• 28:23
  prioritize
• 28:24
  the
• 28:24
  right
• 28:24
  things,
• 28:27
  that's
• 28:27
  what
• 28:27
  you
• 28:27
  have
• 28:28
  me
• 28:28
  thinking
• 28:28
  about
• 28:29
  as
• 28:29
  we
• 28:29
  talk
• 28:29
  about,
• 28:30
  why
• 28:31
  is
• 28:31
  it
• 28:31
  so
• 28:31
  hard?
• 28:32
  And
• 28:32
  what
• 28:32
  must
• 28:33
  we
• 28:33
  do?
• 28:33
  And
• 28:34
  how
• 28:34
  must
• 28:34
  we
• 28:35
  prepare
• 28:36
  ourselves
• 28:36
  to
• 28:36
  do
• 28:37
  it?
• 28:37
  Because
• 28:38
  that
• 28:38
  boom's
• 28:39
  real
• 28:39
  thing,
• 28:39
  isn't
• 28:39
  it?
• 28:40
  That
• 28:41
  Michael
• 28:41
  was
• 28:41
  such
• 28:42
  a
• 28:42
  great,
• 28:43
  I
• 28:43
  think,
• 28:43
  just
• 28:44
  a
• 28:44
  great
• 28:45
  description.
• 28:47
  I
• 28:47
  think
• 28:47
  the
• 28:47
  mentality
• 28:48
  and
• 28:48
  mindset
• 28:49
  that
• 28:50
  happens
• 28:50
  for
• 28:50
  us
• 28:51
  as.
• 28:51
  As
• 28:51
  educators.
• 28:52
  The
• 28:53
  word
• 28:53
  disruption,
• 28:54
  you
• 28:54
  know,
• 28:54
  creates
• 28:55
  a
• 28:55
  little
• 28:55
  uncomfortableness
• 28:56
  because
• 28:57
  it
• 28:57
  requires
• 28:58
  you
• 28:59
  to
• 28:59
  change
• 29:00
  something.
• 29:01
  It's
• 29:01
  shaking
• 29:01
  up
• 29:02
  something.
• 29:02
  It's
• 29:03
  a
• 29:03
  different
• 29:03
  ideology.
• 29:04
  And
• 29:05
  until
• 29:05
  we
• 29:06
  are
• 29:06
  comfortable
• 29:07
  with
• 29:08
  being
• 29:08
  disruptors,
• 29:09
  not
• 29:09
  in
• 29:10
  a
• 29:10
  bad
• 29:10
  way,
• 29:10
  but
• 29:11
  in
• 29:11
  a
• 29:11
  very
• 29:11
  intentional
• 29:12
  way,
• 29:13
  to
• 29:13
  change
• 29:14
  what
• 29:14
  is
• 29:14
  what
• 29:14
  we
• 29:15
  consider
• 29:15
  to
• 29:15
  be
• 29:15
  the
• 29:16
  status
• 29:16
  quo,
• 29:17
  whether
• 29:17
  it's
• 29:17
  for
• 29:18
  students
• 29:18
  who
• 29:19
  have
• 29:19
  those
• 29:20
  sensory
• 29:20
  processing
• 29:21
  issues,
• 29:22
  are
• 29:22
  those
• 29:22
  students
• 29:23
  whose
• 29:24
  voices
• 29:24
  are
• 29:24
  not
• 29:25
  heard,
• 29:25
  who
• 29:26
  don't
• 29:26
  feel
• 29:26
  like
• 29:27
  they
• 29:27
  have
• 29:27
  a
• 29:27
  sense
• 29:27
  of
• 29:28
  belonging
• 29:28
  in
• 29:28
  a
• 29:28
  classroom,
• 29:30
  then
• 29:30
  we're
• 29:31
  going
• 29:31
  to
• 29:31
  keep
• 29:31
  doing
• 29:31
  what
• 29:32
  we
• 29:32
  have
• 29:33
  been
• 29:33
  doing.
• 29:34
  We
• 29:34
  have
• 29:34
  to
• 29:35
  change
• 29:35
  the.
• 29:35
  Ideally,
• 29:36
  we
• 29:36
  have
• 29:36
  to
• 29:37
  change
• 29:37
  the
• 29:37
  idea
• 29:38
  that
• 29:39
  disrupting
• 29:39
  is
• 29:40
  a
• 29:40
  bad
• 29:40
  thing,
• 29:41
  that
• 29:42
  we
• 29:43
  need
• 29:43
  to
• 29:43
  disrupt.
• 29:44
  We
• 29:44
  need
• 29:44
  to
• 29:45
  disrupt
• 29:45
  for
• 29:46
  excellence.
• 29:46
  As
• 29:47
  a
• 29:47
  matter
• 29:47
  of
• 29:47
  fact,
• 29:48
  school
• 29:48
  district
• 29:49
  that
• 29:49
  I'm
• 29:50
  currently
• 29:50
  working
• 29:50
  for,
• 29:51
  our
• 29:51
  superintendent
• 29:52
  says
• 29:52
  that
• 29:53
  all
• 29:53
  the
• 29:53
  time
• 29:54
  we're
• 29:54
  disrupting
• 29:55
  for
• 29:55
  excellence.
• 29:56
  And
• 29:56
  I
• 29:57
  think
• 29:57
  that
• 29:57
  that's
• 29:57
  important,
• 29:58
  you
• 29:58
  know,
• 29:59
  for
• 29:59
  students
• 30:00
  to
• 30:00
  have
• 30:00
  educators
• 30:01
  who
• 30:01
  are
• 30:01
  willing
• 30:02
  to
• 30:03
  stand
• 30:03
  up
• 30:03
  and
• 30:03
  disrupt.
• 30:04
  For
• 30:05
  excellence,
• 30:07
  well,
• 30:07
  and
• 30:08
  talk
• 30:08
  about
• 30:09
  cultivating
• 30:09
  hope.
• 30:11
  If
• 30:11
  our
• 30:12
  students
• 30:12
  see
• 30:13
  us
• 30:14
  disrupting
• 30:14
  our
• 30:14
  own
• 30:15
  thought
• 30:15
  patterns,
• 30:16
  disrupting
• 30:17
  our
• 30:17
  districts,
• 30:20
  they
• 30:20
  are
• 30:20
  seeing
• 30:21
  someone
• 30:21
  who's
• 30:22
  willing
• 30:22
  to
• 30:22
  think
• 30:23
  that
• 30:23
  things
• 30:23
  can
• 30:24
  be
• 30:24
  different.
• 30:25
  And
• 30:26
  if.
• 30:26
  If
• 30:26
  we
• 30:26
  want
• 30:27
  our
• 30:27
  students
• 30:27
  to
• 30:28
  dream,
• 30:30
  they
• 30:30
  need
• 30:30
  to
• 30:31
  have
• 30:31
  the
• 30:31
  ability
• 30:32
  to
• 30:32
  imagine
• 30:34
  what
• 30:34
  if
• 30:34
  it's
• 30:35
  not
• 30:35
  like
• 30:35
  this
• 30:37
  what
• 30:37
  if
• 30:37
  this
• 30:37
  label
• 30:38
  that
• 30:39
  I've
• 30:39
  been
• 30:39
  called
• 30:39
  my
• 30:40
  whole
• 30:40
  life
• 30:40
  or
• 30:40
  my
• 30:41
  whole
• 30:41
  educational
• 30:42
  career,
• 30:42
  what
• 30:42
  if
• 30:43
  that
• 30:43
  is
• 30:43
  not
• 30:43
  all
• 30:43
  I
• 30:44
  am?
• 30:45
  What
• 30:45
  if
• 30:45
  these
• 30:46
  convenience
• 30:47
  systems
• 30:49
  could
• 30:49
  be
• 30:50
  changed?
• 30:51
  And
• 30:52
  yeah,
• 30:53
  that
• 30:53
  disruption
• 30:54
  is
• 30:54
  modeling
• 30:55
  for
• 30:55
  them
• 30:55
  that
• 30:56
  they
• 30:56
  can
• 30:57
  also.
• 30:58
  And
• 30:59
  if,
• 30:59
  if
• 30:59
  the
• 30:59
  educators
• 31:00
  can't
• 31:01
  and
• 31:01
  won't,
• 31:02
  the
• 31:02
  kids
• 31:03
  won't
• 31:03
  necessarily
• 31:05
  have
• 31:05
  that
• 31:05
  example.
• 31:06
  So
• 31:06
  that,
• 31:07
  that's
• 31:07
  powerful.
• 31:09
  Oftentimes,
• 31:10
  if
• 31:10
  students
• 31:10
  take
• 31:11
  risk.
• 31:12
  Right.
• 31:12
  So,
• 31:14
  and,
• 31:14
  and,
• 31:14
  and
• 31:15
  that's
• 31:15
  what
• 31:15
  I'm
• 31:15
  hearing.
• 31:16
  You
• 31:16
  know,
• 31:16
  when
• 31:16
  we
• 31:16
  take
• 31:17
  risk,
• 31:17
  right,
• 31:17
  we're
• 31:18
  supposed
• 31:18
  to
• 31:18
  encourage
• 31:19
  students
• 31:19
  to
• 31:19
  take
• 31:20
  risks.
• 31:20
  And
• 31:21
  we
• 31:21
  have
• 31:22
  several
• 31:22
  different
• 31:23
  models
• 31:23
  of
• 31:24
  best
• 31:25
  teaching
• 31:25
  practices
• 31:26
  and
• 31:26
  approaches
• 31:27
  that
• 31:29
  supposed
• 31:30
  to
• 31:30
  celebrate
• 31:30
  and
• 31:31
  promote
• 31:31
  students
• 31:32
  to
• 31:32
  take
• 31:32
  risk.
• 31:32
  And
• 31:33
  then
• 31:33
  when
• 31:34
  they
• 31:34
  take
• 31:34
  the
• 31:34
  risk,
• 31:36
  and
• 31:37
  if
• 31:37
  the
• 31:37
  risk
• 31:37
  is
• 31:38
  out,
• 31:39
  if
• 31:39
  they
• 31:39
  have
• 31:39
  colored
• 31:39
  outside
• 31:40
  the
• 31:40
  line,
• 31:41
  then
• 31:41
  it
• 31:41
  becomes
• 31:42
  punitive.
• 31:44
  And
• 31:44
  I
• 31:44
  think
• 31:44
  that
• 31:45
  the
• 31:45
  reason
• 31:45
  why
• 31:46
  is
• 31:46
  we're
• 31:46
  comfortable
• 31:47
  with
• 31:47
  losing
• 31:48
  control.
• 31:50
  When
• 31:50
  I
• 31:50
  think
• 31:50
  about
• 31:51
  our
• 31:51
  education
• 31:52
  system,
• 31:52
  there's
• 31:53
  a
• 31:53
  lot
• 31:53
  of
• 31:53
  control,
• 31:54
  there's
• 31:54
  a
• 31:55
  lot
• 31:55
  of
• 31:55
  holding
• 31:55
  on
• 31:56
  to
• 31:57
  the
• 31:57
  reins
• 31:57
  that
• 31:58
  if,
• 31:59
  you
• 31:59
  know,
• 32:00
  I'm
• 32:00
  just
• 32:00
  crazy
• 32:01
  enough
• 32:01
  to
• 32:01
  believe
• 32:02
  if
• 32:02
  we
• 32:03
  truly
• 32:03
  let
• 32:04
  students
• 32:05
  do
• 32:07
  what
• 32:07
  they're
• 32:08
  capable
• 32:08
  of
• 32:09
  doing,
• 32:10
  we
• 32:10
  would
• 32:10
  see
• 32:11
  an
• 32:11
  engaged
• 32:12
  population
• 32:13
  of
• 32:13
  students
• 32:13
  in
• 32:14
  our
• 32:14
  classrooms.
• 32:15
  And
• 32:15
  I'm
• 32:15
  not
• 32:15
  talking
• 32:16
  about
• 32:16
  just,
• 32:16
  you
• 32:16
  know,
• 32:17
  from
• 32:17
  a
• 32:18
  standpoint
• 32:18
  of
• 32:19
  just
• 32:19
  letting
• 32:19
  kids,
• 32:20
  you
• 32:20
  know,
• 32:20
  just
• 32:21
  be
• 32:21
  kids
• 32:21
  and
• 32:22
  be
• 32:23
  wild
• 32:23
  and
• 32:24
  free,
• 32:25
  but
• 32:25
  to
• 32:25
  let
• 32:26
  them
• 32:27
  really
• 32:27
  apply
• 32:28
  to
• 32:28
  me,
• 32:28
  it's
• 32:29
  the
• 32:29
  genius
• 32:29
  that
• 32:30
  they
• 32:30
  have.
• 32:31
  Our
• 32:31
  students
• 32:31
  today
• 32:32
  come
• 32:32
  with
• 32:32
  so
• 32:33
  much
• 32:33
  more
• 32:34
  than
• 32:34
  what
• 32:35
  I
• 32:35
  can
• 32:35
  ever
• 32:36
  imagine
• 32:37
  as
• 32:37
  a
• 32:37
  student,
• 32:38
  myself,
• 32:39
  as
• 32:39
  a
• 32:39
  teacher,
• 32:39
  as
• 32:40
  a
• 32:40
  principal,
• 32:41
  that
• 32:41
  I've
• 32:41
  observed
• 32:42
  over
• 32:42
  20,
• 32:43
  you
• 32:43
  know,
• 32:43
  some
• 32:44
  odd
• 32:44
  years.
• 32:45
  They
• 32:45
  come
• 32:45
  in,
• 32:45
  they're.
• 32:46
  They're
• 32:46
  wielding
• 32:47
  technology,
• 32:48
  you
• 32:49
  know,
• 32:49
  almost
• 32:49
  as
• 32:49
  a
• 32:49
  second
• 32:50
  language
• 32:50
  in
• 32:50
  the
• 32:51
  classroom.
• 32:52
  But
• 32:52
  we're
• 32:52
  afraid.
• 32:53
  We're
• 32:53
  afraid
• 32:53
  to
• 32:54
  let
• 32:54
  go,
• 32:54
  that
• 32:55
  it's
• 32:55
  coloring
• 32:55
  outside.
• 32:56
  Someone
• 32:56
  said
• 32:57
  the
• 32:57
  lines,
• 32:58
  that
• 32:58
  it's
• 32:58
  not
• 32:59
  regimented
• 33:00
  to
• 33:00
  them
• 33:00
  being
• 33:01
  just
• 33:01
  paper,
• 33:02
  pencil,
• 33:03
  you
• 33:03
  know,
• 33:03
  students.
• 33:04
  And
• 33:04
  that
• 33:05
  causes
• 33:07
  that
• 33:07
  level
• 33:07
  of
• 33:08
  disgagement
• 33:10
  to
• 33:10
  happen
• 33:11
  because
• 33:12
  we're
• 33:12
  still
• 33:12
  trying
• 33:13
  to
• 33:13
  educate
• 33:13
  them
• 33:14
  the
• 33:14
  way
• 33:14
  we
• 33:15
  were.
• 33:16
  So
• 33:17
  when
• 33:17
  we
• 33:17
  are
• 33:19
  thoughtful
• 33:20
  disruptors,
• 33:23
  we
• 33:24
  send
• 33:24
  a
• 33:24
  powerful
• 33:25
  message
• 33:25
  to
• 33:25
  students.
• 33:26
  Right.
• 33:27
  That
• 33:27
  they
• 33:27
  matter
• 33:29
  and
• 33:29
  that
• 33:30
  we're
• 33:30
  their
• 33:31
  ally.
• 33:32
  Right.
• 33:33
  To
• 33:33
  use
• 33:33
  that
• 33:33
  word
• 33:34
  as
• 33:34
  a
• 33:34
  noun.
• 33:34
  Right.
• 33:35
  That
• 33:36
  we
• 33:36
  are
• 33:36
  their
• 33:36
  ally
• 33:37
  and
• 33:38
  that
• 33:38
  we
• 33:38
  create,
• 33:40
  to
• 33:40
  quote
• 33:40
  Mel
• 33:40
  King
• 33:41
  from
• 33:41
  an
• 33:41
  early
• 33:41
  episode,
• 33:42
  we
• 33:42
  create
• 33:43
  spaces
• 33:45
  where
• 33:45
  children
• 33:46
  can
• 33:46
  breathe.
• 33:48
  He
• 33:48
  can't
• 33:48
  join
• 33:48
  us
• 33:48
  today,
• 33:49
  but
• 33:50
  I
• 33:50
  needed
• 33:51
  to
• 33:51
  quote
• 33:51
  him.
• 33:53
  I
• 33:53
  needed
• 33:53
  to
• 33:53
  quote
• 33:54
  him
• 33:54
  because
• 33:54
  I
• 33:54
  absolutely
• 33:55
  love
• 33:55
  that
• 33:56
  he
• 33:57
  said
• 33:57
  it
• 33:58
  so
• 33:59
  passionately.
• 33:59
  Right.
• 34:00
  I
• 34:00
  needed
• 34:00
  to
• 34:00
  be
• 34:00
  in
• 34:00
  a
• 34:01
  space
• 34:01
  where
• 34:01
  I
• 34:01
  could
• 34:01
  breathe.
• 34:02
  I'm
• 34:02
  thinking
• 34:02
  about,
• 34:03
  well,
• 34:03
  the
• 34:03
  only
• 34:04
  way
• 34:04
  that
• 34:04
  we
• 34:04
  can
• 34:04
  create
• 34:05
  those
• 34:05
  Spaces
• 34:06
  is
• 34:07
  to
• 34:07
  be
• 34:07
  thoughtful
• 34:08
  disruptors.
• 34:09
  And
• 34:09
  our
• 34:09
  children
• 34:10
  need
• 34:11
  to
• 34:11
  see
• 34:11
  us
• 34:11
  disrupting
• 34:13
  on
• 34:13
  their
• 34:14
  behalf.
• 34:15
  And
• 34:16
  that
• 34:16
  becomes
• 34:17
  the
• 34:17
  new
• 34:17
  normal.
• 34:18
  Michael
• 34:19
  used
• 34:19
  that
• 34:19
  word,
• 34:20
  like
• 34:20
  normalizing
• 34:21
  that
• 34:22
  all
• 34:22
  of
• 34:22
  these
• 34:22
  things
• 34:23
  that
• 34:23
  we
• 34:23
  do,
• 34:24
  that
• 34:24
  we
• 34:24
  come
• 34:24
  into,
• 34:25
  that
• 34:25
  we
• 34:25
  inherit,
• 34:26
  we've
• 34:26
  normalized
• 34:27
  that.
• 34:28
  So
• 34:29
  how
• 34:29
  do
• 34:29
  we
• 34:29
  change
• 34:31
  that
• 34:31
  normal
• 34:33
  for
• 34:33
  our
• 34:33
  students?
• 34:35
  Been
• 34:35
  thinking
• 34:35
  of
• 34:36
  the
• 34:36
  idea
• 34:36
  of
• 34:36
  breaking
• 34:37
  rules,
• 34:38
  right?
• 34:38
  We're
• 34:38
  talking
• 34:39
  about
• 34:39
  rigid
• 34:39
  systems.
• 34:40
  We're
• 34:40
  talking
• 34:40
  about
• 34:40
  disrupting.
• 34:41
  And
• 34:42
  it
• 34:42
  doesn't
• 34:42
  have
• 34:43
  to
• 34:43
  be
• 34:43
  like
• 34:43
  a
• 34:43
  district
• 34:44
  policy
• 34:44
  that
• 34:45
  one
• 34:45
  breaks.
• 34:46
  But
• 34:47
  Michael,
• 34:47
  in
• 34:48
  your
• 34:48
  story
• 34:49
  about
• 34:49
  your
• 34:50
  colleague,
• 34:50
  he
• 34:51
  asked
• 34:51
  you
• 34:51
  questions
• 34:52
  in
• 34:52
  front
• 34:53
  of
• 34:53
  students
• 34:54
  that
• 34:54
  were
• 34:56
  breaking
• 34:56
  a
• 34:56
  social
• 34:57
  rule,
• 34:57
  so
• 34:58
  to
• 34:58
  speak.
• 34:58
  Right?
• 34:59
  And
• 35:00
  so
• 35:01
  we
• 35:01
  can
• 35:01
  imagine
• 35:02
  all
• 35:02
  different
• 35:02
  ways
• 35:03
  that
• 35:03
  we
• 35:03
  can
• 35:03
  break
• 35:05
  norms,
• 35:06
  rules,
• 35:07
  and
• 35:08
  show
• 35:08
  ourselves
• 35:09
  as
• 35:09
  someone
• 35:09
  who
• 35:11
  does
• 35:11
  that.
• 35:12
  And
• 35:12
  I
• 35:13
  don't
• 35:13
  have
• 35:14
  necessarily
• 35:14
  any
• 35:15
  examples
• 35:15
  from
• 35:16
  my
• 35:16
  life
• 35:16
  or
• 35:16
  career
• 35:17
  because
• 35:17
  I.
• 35:17
  I'm
• 35:18
  all.
• 35:18
  I've
• 35:18
  always
• 35:18
  been
• 35:19
  a
• 35:19
  rule
• 35:19
  follower.
• 35:19
  But
• 35:20
  I'm
• 35:20
  feeling
• 35:20
  inspired
• 35:21
  to
• 35:21
  think,
• 35:22
  what
• 35:22
  are
• 35:22
  ways
• 35:23
  that
• 35:23
  I
• 35:23
  can
• 35:23
  just
• 35:24
  make
• 35:24
  people
• 35:24
  uncomfortable,
• 35:26
  be
• 35:26
  a
• 35:26
  little
• 35:26
  bit
• 35:26
  of
• 35:27
  a
• 35:27
  pest,
• 35:28
  annoy
• 35:29
  people
• 35:29
  a
• 35:30
  little
• 35:30
  bit?
• 35:31
  You
• 35:31
  know,
• 35:32
  how
• 35:32
  often
• 35:32
  have
• 35:32
  you
• 35:33
  seen
• 35:33
  that
• 35:33
  amazing
• 35:34
  educator
• 35:34
  where
• 35:35
  students
• 35:35
  roll
• 35:36
  their
• 35:36
  eyes
• 35:36
  at
• 35:36
  them,
• 35:37
  right?
• 35:38
  But
• 35:38
  they
• 35:38
  feel
• 35:38
  safe
• 35:38
  and
• 35:39
  comfortable
• 35:39
  to
• 35:39
  roll
• 35:39
  their
• 35:39
  eyes.
• 35:40
  And,
• 35:41
  you
• 35:41
  know,
• 35:41
  kids
• 35:42
  show
• 35:43
  annoyance,
• 35:44
  but
• 35:44
  they're
• 35:45
  probably
• 35:45
  thinking,
• 35:46
  right?
• 35:47
  So
• 35:47
  getting
• 35:47
  under
• 35:48
  people's
• 35:48
  skin,
• 35:51
  that's.
• 35:52
  That's
• 35:52
  just
• 35:52
  what's
• 35:53
  going
• 35:53
  through
• 35:53
  my
• 35:53
  head
• 35:53
  right
• 35:54
  now,
• 35:54
  that
• 35:55
  it
• 35:56
  doesn't
• 35:56
  have
• 35:56
  to
• 35:57
  be
• 35:58
  some
• 35:59
  big,
• 36:00
  you
• 36:01
  know,
• 36:01
  I
• 36:02
  broke
• 36:02
  a
• 36:02
  policy
• 36:03
  that
• 36:03
  was
• 36:04
  big
• 36:04
  and
• 36:04
  dramatic.
• 36:05
  But
• 36:05
  small
• 36:05
  ways
• 36:06
  to
• 36:07
  create
• 36:07
  that
• 36:08
  discomfort
• 36:09
  get
• 36:09
  people
• 36:09
  thinking,
• 36:11
  that's
• 36:12
  also
• 36:12
  personal.
• 36:12
  That's
• 36:13
  stepping
• 36:14
  just
• 36:14
  a
• 36:14
  little
• 36:14
  outside
• 36:15
  the.
• 36:15
  The
• 36:15
  lines
• 36:16
  of
• 36:16
  the
• 36:16
  system.
• 36:18
  And
• 36:18
  we
• 36:19
  talk
• 36:19
  about
• 36:19
  kids
• 36:19
  who
• 36:19
  color
• 36:20
  outside
• 36:20
  the
• 36:20
  lines,
• 36:21
  helping
• 36:21
  them
• 36:22
  understand
• 36:22
  what
• 36:22
  are
• 36:23
  those
• 36:23
  boundaries,
• 36:25
  what
• 36:25
  is
• 36:26
  detrimental
• 36:28
  disruption.
• 36:29
  Because
• 36:29
  they're
• 36:29
  going
• 36:29
  to
• 36:29
  try
• 36:30
  it
• 36:30
  and
• 36:30
  they're
• 36:30
  going
• 36:30
  to.
• 36:31
  They're
• 36:31
  going
• 36:32
  to
• 36:32
  do
• 36:32
  some
• 36:32
  things
• 36:33
  we
• 36:33
  do
• 36:33
  not
• 36:33
  want
• 36:34
  to
• 36:34
  see.
• 36:35
  And
• 36:35
  how
• 36:35
  do
• 36:36
  we
• 36:36
  help
• 36:36
  them
• 36:36
  disrupt
• 36:37
  in
• 36:37
  ways
• 36:37
  that
• 36:38
  are
• 36:38
  productive
• 36:39
  to
• 36:39
  them?
• 36:40
  And
• 36:40
  maybe
• 36:40
  I
• 36:41
  don't
• 36:41
  want
• 36:41
  to
• 36:41
  use
• 36:41
  the
• 36:41
  word
• 36:41
  productive.
• 36:42
  That
• 36:42
  feels
• 36:42
  very
• 36:43
  colonized
• 36:45
  to
• 36:45
  reference
• 36:45
  your
• 36:46
  statements
• 36:47
  earlier.
• 36:47
  But
• 36:48
  beneficial,
• 36:49
  positive,
• 36:50
  leading
• 36:51
  to
• 36:51
  growth,
• 36:53
  making.
• 36:53
  It
• 36:53
  okay
• 36:54
  to
• 36:54
  take
• 36:54
  risks,
• 36:55
  to
• 36:55
  know
• 36:55
  that
• 36:56
  if
• 36:56
  I'm
• 36:57
  taking
• 36:57
  a
• 36:58
  risk
• 36:59
  for
• 37:01
  change,
• 37:02
  or
• 37:02
  to
• 37:02
  advocate.
• 37:03
  I
• 37:03
  think
• 37:03
  I
• 37:04
  like
• 37:04
  that
• 37:04
  word
• 37:04
  better,
• 37:04
  Jim.
• 37:05
  Advocate.
• 37:06
  To
• 37:06
  advocate
• 37:07
  for
• 37:07
  what
• 37:07
  I
• 37:07
  need
• 37:09
  as
• 37:09
  a
• 37:09
  student,
• 37:10
  then
• 37:11
  I
• 37:11
  see
• 37:11
  that
• 37:12
  as
• 37:12
  an
• 37:13
  empowerment
• 37:15
  versus
• 37:15
  it
• 37:15
  being
• 37:17
  a
• 37:17
  detriment
• 37:19
  to
• 37:19
  me
• 37:20
  in
• 37:20
  the
• 37:20
  classroom.
• 37:22
  So
• 37:23
  if
• 37:23
  I'm
• 37:23
  going
• 37:23
  to
• 37:23
  do
• 37:24
  that,
• 37:24
  I
• 37:24
  have
• 37:24
  to
• 37:25
  be
• 37:25
  confident
• 37:27
  with
• 37:27
  myself.
• 37:28
  I
• 37:28
  have
• 37:29
  to
• 37:29
  feel
• 37:29
  esteemed.
• 37:30
  I,
• 37:31
  too,
• 37:31
  have
• 37:31
  to
• 37:32
  feel
• 37:32
  safe
• 37:32
  as
• 37:33
  an
• 37:33
  educator.
• 37:35
  And
• 37:36
  Shavita,
• 37:37
  the
• 37:37
  disconnects
• 37:38
  happen
• 37:38
  throughout
• 37:38
  the
• 37:38
  system.
• 37:40
  So
• 37:41
  oftentimes
• 37:42
  teachers,
• 37:43
  I've
• 37:44
  seen
• 37:44
  teachers
• 37:44
  have
• 37:45
  really
• 37:45
  great
• 37:45
  relationships
• 37:46
  with
• 37:46
  students
• 37:48
  and
• 37:48
  then
• 37:48
  really
• 37:49
  not
• 37:49
  produce
• 37:49
  in
• 37:50
  the
• 37:50
  classroom,
• 37:51
  right?
• 37:51
  And
• 37:51
  then
• 37:52
  I've
• 37:52
  seen
• 37:52
  teachers
• 37:53
  have
• 37:53
  horrible
• 37:55
  relationships
• 37:56
  with
• 37:56
  students,
• 37:57
  but
• 37:58
  they
• 37:58
  rule
• 37:58
  with
• 37:59
  tyranny.
• 38:00
  So
• 38:00
  students
• 38:01
  are
• 38:01
  scared
• 38:02
  and
• 38:02
  then
• 38:02
  they
• 38:03
  produce,
• 38:03
  right?
• 38:04
  They're
• 38:04
  intimidated
• 38:05
  because
• 38:06
  to
• 38:06
  produce,
• 38:07
  what
• 38:07
  are
• 38:07
  we?
• 38:08
  What
• 38:08
  do
• 38:08
  we
• 38:08
  achieve?
• 38:09
  That
• 38:09
  balance,
• 38:10
  right?
• 38:10
  Where
• 38:12
  we
• 38:12
  could
• 38:12
  just
• 38:12
  be
• 38:13
  human
• 38:13
  in
• 38:13
  ourselves.
• 38:15
  Okay,
• 38:16
  so
• 38:17
  back
• 38:17
  to
• 38:17
  what
• 38:17
  Jim
• 38:18
  said.
• 38:20
  When
• 38:20
  I
• 38:20
  walk
• 38:21
  into
• 38:21
  a
• 38:21
  space
• 38:22
  just
• 38:22
  by
• 38:22
  my
• 38:23
  mere
• 38:23
  packaging,
• 38:25
  the
• 38:25
  stereotype
• 38:26
  is
• 38:26
  that
• 38:26
  I
• 38:26
  am
• 38:26
  going
• 38:27
  to
• 38:27
  be
• 38:27
  a
• 38:27
  disruptor.
• 38:29
  So
• 38:29
  if
• 38:29
  we
• 38:29
  have
• 38:29
  in
• 38:29
  real
• 38:30
  conversations,
• 38:31
  as
• 38:31
  we
• 38:31
  do
• 38:31
  in
• 38:31
  the
• 38:32
  Wheelhouse,
• 38:33
  I
• 38:33
  identify
• 38:34
  as
• 38:34
  Afro
• 38:34
  Latin,
• 38:36
  right?
• 38:36
  I
• 38:37
  have
• 38:37
  a
• 38:37
  couple
• 38:38
  of
• 38:38
  extra
• 38:38
  letters
• 38:38
  after
• 38:39
  my
• 38:39
  name.
• 38:40
  I
• 38:40
  have
• 38:40
  credentials
• 38:41
  up
• 38:41
  the
• 38:41
  kwazoo.
• 38:42
  So
• 38:42
  just
• 38:42
  a
• 38:43
  seat
• 38:43
  at
• 38:43
  the
• 38:43
  table.
• 38:45
  That
• 38:45
  one's
• 38:46
  going
• 38:46
  to
• 38:46
  say
• 38:46
  something.
• 38:47
  So
• 38:47
  I
• 38:47
  get
• 38:47
  the
• 38:48
  side
• 38:48
  eye
• 38:48
  as
• 38:49
  I
• 38:49
  sit
• 38:49
  down.
• 38:51
  I
• 38:51
  don't
• 38:51
  even
• 38:52
  know
• 38:52
  you.
• 38:53
  But
• 38:53
  just,
• 38:54
  just
• 38:54
  the
• 38:55
  mere
• 38:55
  fact
• 38:56
  that
• 38:57
  I
• 38:57
  earned
• 38:58
  my
• 38:58
  seat
• 38:58
  at
• 38:58
  the
• 38:59
  table
• 39:00
  and
• 39:00
  I
• 39:01
  question
• 39:01
  the
• 39:02
  earning
• 39:02
  power
• 39:02
  of
• 39:03
  the
• 39:03
  other
• 39:03
  seat
• 39:04
  and
• 39:04
  people
• 39:05
  that
• 39:05
  are
• 39:05
  sitting
• 39:05
  at
• 39:05
  the
• 39:05
  table,
• 39:06
  but
• 39:06
  that's
• 39:06
  neither
• 39:06
  here
• 39:07
  nor
• 39:07
  there.
• 39:07
  That's
• 39:08
  definitely
• 39:08
  another
• 39:09
  conversation.
• 39:10
  But
• 39:10
  what
• 39:10
  I'm
• 39:10
  saying
• 39:11
  is
• 39:12
  we
• 39:12
  really
• 39:13
  have
• 39:13
  to
• 39:13
  understand.
• 39:14
  And
• 39:15
  Shavita,
• 39:15
  I'm
• 39:16
  going
• 39:16
  to
• 39:16
  go
• 39:16
  back
• 39:16
  to
• 39:17
  what
• 39:17
  you
• 39:17
  said
• 39:17
  and
• 39:18
  I
• 39:18
  don't
• 39:18
  want
• 39:18
  to
• 39:18
  lose
• 39:19
  that
• 39:19
  thought.
• 39:19
  At
• 39:19
  the
• 39:19
  beginning
• 39:20
  of
• 39:20
  our
• 39:20
  conversation,
• 39:22
  it
• 39:23
  was
• 39:23
  around
• 39:23
  cultural
• 39:24
  responsiveness
• 39:25
  and
• 39:25
  you
• 39:25
  said
• 39:26
  it
• 39:26
  quietly,
• 39:27
  but
• 39:27
  I
• 39:27
  picked
• 39:28
  it
• 39:28
  up
• 39:28
  and
• 39:28
  I
• 39:28
  noted
• 39:29
  that
• 39:30
  because
• 39:30
  that
• 39:31
  is
• 39:31
  what,
• 39:32
  what
• 39:32
  really
• 39:32
  moves
• 39:33
  the
• 39:33
  needle
• 39:34
  within
• 39:35
  humanity
• 39:37
  is
• 39:37
  the
• 39:38
  idea
• 39:38
  of
• 39:38
  understanding.
• 39:40
  And
• 39:40
  I
• 39:40
  believe
• 39:40
  Mel
• 39:41
  said
• 39:41
  that,
• 39:42
  that
• 39:42
  everyone
• 39:43
  outside
• 39:43
  of
• 39:43
  ourselves
• 39:44
  is
• 39:44
  diverse.
• 39:47
  I
• 39:47
  need
• 39:47
  to
• 39:48
  lift
• 39:48
  that
• 39:48
  because
• 39:49
  that's
• 39:49
  what
• 39:49
  set
• 39:50
  with
• 39:50
  me
• 39:51
  when
• 39:51
  we
• 39:51
  had
• 39:51
  the
• 39:51
  conversation
• 39:53
  with
• 39:53
  Mel.
• 39:55
  So
• 39:55
  every,
• 39:55
  every
• 39:56
  individual
• 39:57
  in
• 39:57
  this
• 39:57
  space,
• 39:58
  we
• 39:58
  are
• 39:59
  all
• 39:59
  diverse
• 40:00
  because
• 40:01
  none
• 40:01
  of
• 40:01
  us
• 40:01
  are
• 40:02
  cookie
• 40:02
  cutters
• 40:02
  of
• 40:02
  the
• 40:03
  other.
• 40:04
  How
• 40:04
  do
• 40:04
  we
• 40:04
  respect
• 40:05
  those
• 40:05
  different
• 40:06
  worldviews
• 40:06
  and
• 40:07
  realities
• 40:07
  and
• 40:07
  lived
• 40:08
  experiences?
• 40:09
  Because
• 40:09
  that's
• 40:09
  where
• 40:09
  authentic
• 40:10
  engagement
• 40:11
  starts.
• 40:13
  And
• 40:13
  if
• 40:13
  we
• 40:13
  can't
• 40:14
  engage
• 40:14
  with
• 40:14
  each
• 40:14
  other,
• 40:15
  then
• 40:15
  how
• 40:16
  are
• 40:16
  we,
• 40:16
  Jim,
• 40:17
  going
• 40:17
  to
• 40:17
  be
• 40:17
  role
• 40:17
  models
• 40:19
  for
• 40:19
  our
• 40:19
  students?
• 40:21
  I've
• 40:22
  witnessed
• 40:22
  students
• 40:23
  act
• 40:24
  and
• 40:24
  behave
• 40:25
  a
• 40:25
  lot
• 40:25
  more
• 40:26
  kind
• 40:26
  to
• 40:27
  each
• 40:27
  other
• 40:28
  than
• 40:28
  teachers
• 40:29
  are
• 40:29
  to
• 40:29
  one
• 40:29
  another
• 40:30
  than
• 40:30
  school
• 40:31
  leaders
• 40:31
  are
• 40:31
  to
• 40:32
  the
• 40:32
  teachers.
• 40:33
  So
• 40:34
  where
• 40:34
  do
• 40:34
  we
• 40:34
  achieve
• 40:35
  that
• 40:35
  balance
• 40:35
  so
• 40:36
  that
• 40:36
  we
• 40:36
  really
• 40:37
  have
• 40:37
  a
• 40:37
  healthy
• 40:38
  educational
• 40:39
  ecosystem?
• 40:47
  And
• 40:47
  that
• 40:47
  wraps
• 40:47
  up
• 40:47
  Episode
• 40:48
  12
• 40:48
  in
• 40:49
  this
• 40:49
  season
• 40:49
  of
• 40:49
  the
• 40:50
  Wheelhouse.
• 40:51
  A
• 40:51
  special
• 40:51
  thank
• 40:51
  you
• 40:52
  to
• 40:52
  our
• 40:52
  guests,
• 40:52
  Jim,
• 40:53
  vaneda,
• 40:53
  Reuben,
• 40:54
  Britt
• 40:54
  Jr.
• 40:55
  And
• 40:55
  Dr.
• 40:55
  Shavita
• 40:56
  West.
• 40:57
  Part
• 40:57
  two
• 40:57
  of
• 40:57
  this
• 40:58
  amazing
• 40:58
  conversation
• 40:59
  drops
• 40:59
  on
• 40:59
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  20th.
• 41:00
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• 41:01
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• 41:01
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• 41:03
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• 41:04
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• 41:04
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• 41:05
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• 41:13
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• 41:13
  us,
• 41:13
  how
• 41:14
  are
• 41:14
  you
• 41:14
  seeing
• 41:14
  each
• 41:15
  of
• 41:15
  your
• 41:15
  students
• 41:16
  as
• 41:16
  human
• 41:16
  beings?
• 41:17
  How
• 41:18
  do
• 41:18
  you
• 41:18
  make
• 41:19
  the
• 41:19
  system
• 41:19
  less
• 41:20
  rigid
• 41:20
  and
• 41:20
  more
• 41:21
  responsive
• 41:21
  to
• 41:21
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• 41:22
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• 41:22
  of
• 41:22
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