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- 0:00The B -Side in boxing. B -Side shit. B -Side.
- 0:04B -Side. And the B -Side. You got a B -Side.
- 0:06The B -Side. B -Side. B -Side. B -Side. The B
- 0:10-Side thing. This is the B -Sides Boxing Podcast.
- 0:20Alright, let's fucking get into this. Weird picks
- 0:23are Martin Castaño, actually. I got Martin Castaño
- 0:25for... For Brian Castaño. He got fat as fuck
- 0:32in between his first fight with Charlo and the
- 0:34second. I would choose a burger, man. Oh, you're
- 0:37right. How much booze does he need as a chaser
- 0:41for it, though? The chaser's crazy. As a chaser
- 0:45for a fucking burger? That's fucking nuts. Some
- 0:51people need a chaser for a chaser, though. Let's
- 0:55start. Yeah, let's get into this. Holy shit.
- 1:00Boxing B -sides. It is a loaded room today. What
- 1:06is all this burger talk? What is that? You're
- 1:10going to have to go to Patreon to find out. Because
- 1:13there's just way too much of that that's not
- 1:18going to make it to the public release. Joined
- 1:22by the homies, Josh, Saul. Got that. Learn his
- 1:26real name. Learn his real name on the Patreon.
- 1:29Yeah, I'll cut that out. And we got a special
- 1:34special guest. Isaac from The Ultimate Fucking
- 1:39Casuals. Yo, yo. This is like the Riyadh season
- 1:44of podcasts. Yeah. They really got the guy from
- 1:49the other side of the street coming. It's been
- 1:53imported. Imported, yeah. Turkey a la chic paid
- 1:57for him to be here. Cross -platform. It's casuals
- 2:01versus B -sides, 2v2. Alright. So, since we have
- 2:10one of the ultimate fucking casuals here, some
- 2:13MMA coming up this weekend, if you are of the
- 2:16persuasion. UFC 319 at the United Center in Chicago.
- 2:23Uh, Isaac, what, other than the main event, which
- 2:26one, which fight are you, uh, most looking forward
- 2:29to on this, on the card? All right. Hold on.
- 2:34I have, uh, I made, like, a special, like, boxing
- 2:38fan guide. I've been starting to do it for, like,
- 2:41pay -per -views. That's more fun than I've ever
- 2:43done for one of these. Yeah. I, uh, you know,
- 2:46because I understand sometimes, you know, people
- 2:48don't want to see, like, uh, grappling in some
- 2:50fights. I understand it. So I've made an official
- 2:53guide for UFC 319. Basically, one of the big
- 2:57fights that I feel is just sort of guaranteed
- 3:00to be a banger. Jeff Neal versus Carlos Pratesh.
- 3:02Jeff Neal is sort of like a veteran and he's
- 3:05a hard -hitting veteran. Carlos Pratesh is like
- 3:09this up -and -coming prospect who we've seen
- 3:11recently have heavy hands himself. I feel like
- 3:15this fight is just guaranteed to end in knockouts.
- 3:17I mean, they're both stand -up strikers. I mean,
- 3:19you know, they're always going forward, super
- 3:21aggressive. So I feel like that's just guaranteed
- 3:23to be a banger. A few others on the list. Tim
- 3:26Elliott versus Kai Sakura. Kai Sakura is another
- 3:29one of the Japanese dudes that they brought in.
- 3:32He sort of got fed to the champion, Pantoja.
- 3:35But, you know, this is his comeback fight, you
- 3:38know, and Tim Elliott's not a scrub. So, you
- 3:39know, I could see this being a decent scrub on
- 3:41the feet. Another one, Edson Barbosa. You know,
- 3:45he's got a little bit of the big boxing. Yeah,
- 3:48yeah, that was Chief's favorite. But, yeah, Edson
- 3:52Barbarossa versus Jakar Close. And then Brian
- 3:55Battle versus Nur Sultan. Now, Brian Battle,
- 3:58it's not going to be, like, super technical striking.
- 4:01Like, he has negative head movement. So it will
- 4:05be, like, a nice, like, stand -up striking fight.
- 4:09You know, other fights that could potentially
- 4:11be good, Jared Cannoneer versus Michael Venom
- 4:14Page. Michael Venom Page, I believe, did a few
- 4:16kickboxing fights. And Jared Kennedy, he's in
- 4:20his 40s, but he's been hanging around sort of
- 4:22like as a gatekeeper. But yeah, I think that
- 4:25could be a good fight. And then King Green versus
- 4:26Diego Ferreira. I think that could also be a
- 4:30good fight. That's a little scrap, but yeah.
- 4:32If you don't want to watch grappling, I perhaps
- 4:35wouldn't recommend the main event, but it will
- 4:37be exciting. I can say that the first round is
- 4:40going to be super chaotic. I'm really excited
- 4:42for UFC 319. If nothing else, you could watch
- 4:46King Green and expect... You could bet on a knockout.
- 4:51Yeah. Absolutely bet on a knockout. King Green
- 4:55could go down another nasty one. Yeah. It's happened
- 4:59a few times. But there you have it. That's the
- 5:04Boxing Fan's Guide to UFC 319. We don't have
- 5:11news on this one, but tune in next week. And
- 5:15we do have a lot of shit to talk about. That's
- 5:19in the news. Ali Yakt. Tank gets his charges
- 5:24dropped. Among other things. Let's get into our
- 5:31recaps here. Now, starting with Saturday, August
- 5:372nd. Golden Boy at the University of Illinois.
- 5:41in Chicago. Saul, how excited are you for Joshua
- 5:47Edwards with another Dynamite KO? I thought it
- 5:51was every time he fights and every time I see
- 5:53the same exact thing. He is the last bastion
- 5:55of hope for the American heavyweight boxing.
- 5:58I think that he is going to go far and I'm excited
- 6:01to see where he's going to go next. You think
- 6:04he's the bastion of hope over... Now that the
- 6:07Titanweight... type of guys are starting to kind
- 6:10of fade off into the sunset you don't think like
- 6:13uh richard torres maybe dude the thing is rich
- 6:17torres i think rich torres could be a good contender
- 6:19the only the only problem with rich torres is
- 6:21that he doesn't have as much skill as i could
- 6:24see uh joshua edwards having and i could already
- 6:28tell that joshua edwards uh in terms of skill
- 6:31is already miles ahead of rich torres doesn't
- 6:34matter right like rich torres i love rich torres
- 6:36you know i'll always follow his career you know
- 6:37he's He's one of our people, you know, but it's
- 6:39just, I do think that Joshua Edwards does have
- 6:44the goods and kind of passes the eye test as
- 6:46well. Yeah, I've been pretty impressed with everything
- 6:52that I've seen from him so far. He's been, yeah,
- 6:57Last Bastion, we'll see, but he is definitely
- 7:02like the premier hope for American heavyweights
- 7:06right now. I mean, we only have him, Rick Torres,
- 7:11Darrell Miller, Michael Hunter, Jared Anderson.
- 7:15Michael Hunter? When was the last time Michael
- 7:17Hunter fought? I'm not sure about Michael Hunter.
- 7:21No, but we've got news on him, too. Yeah. He's
- 7:27coming. Yeah, he's fighting, what's his face?
- 7:31Pulev. Kubrat Pulev? Okay, bro. yeah that's he
- 7:39is yeah i'm not joking he actually is no no i'm
- 7:42not saying that as like i don't believe you i'm
- 7:44saying that as like are we really saying kubrat's
- 7:46a name to get back into contention dude apparently
- 7:49the state of heavyweight it might be that's true
- 7:53actually retires and vacates i believe like i'm
- 7:58not exactly sure how it would work but i think
- 8:00like as it is right now pula would be upgraded
- 8:03to a full champ No, that'd be Chisora. That'd
- 8:07be Chisora. Is Pulep not holding the belt? No,
- 8:13let me find him. For the IBF, right? Probably.
- 8:17IBF rankings. I got you. I'm pretty sure Parker
- 8:23is the VO. So for the IBF, there's no number
- 8:29one contender. There's no mandatory. Derek Chisora
- 8:32is the top contender. Remember Chisora beat Pulev?
- 8:40I think Kyle Bighton has the WBC interim. Chisora,
- 8:47Jagba, Sanchez, Joshua, Itama, and then Hunter
- 8:52at 7. That is nuts. Richard Torres at 8. Daniel
- 9:04Dubois at 9, Anderson at 10, Bacoli at 11, and
- 9:09then I don't care. Lawrence Bacoli at 15, but
- 9:16the only thing he deserves are 15 baseball bats
- 9:20to the knees. Quadruple bypasses. Give him 15
- 9:24quadruple bypass burgers. Regardless, yes. Joshua
- 9:31Edwards is... I don't know, man. I feel like
- 9:34we got to really get behind him. We got to really
- 9:37get behind him. He's our best hope, I feel like.
- 9:39Yeah, he is. Oh, yeah, for sure. Let's move up.
- 9:47Skip Tristan Calcutta. And Regis Progray gets
- 9:54the UD over Jojo Diaz. Now, Jojo Diaz gave a
- 9:59pretty good accounting of himself despite losing.
- 10:04Josh, is that a testament to Jojo Diaz still
- 10:09having it or Regis Progray being fucking hot
- 10:11garbage? Okay, man. I'm a Regis defender, actually.
- 10:18But man, Regis needs to go back to crashing golf
- 10:24carts. The way Jojo, who has never had power
- 10:28in his life, Jojo Diaz lands like, Well, clean
- 10:34right hands on Devin Haney and can't even shake
- 10:36him. And he's putting Progray on skates repeatedly.
- 10:39Like, nah. This isn't... I don't think Progray
- 10:46is going to go out pretty. If he gets another
- 10:50shot. Yeah. Dude, I was trying to tell people
- 10:54in the lead -up that this was going to be a good
- 10:56fight. This is an old man's fight. Yeah, it's
- 11:00an old man fight, but it did end up being a little
- 11:02bit of a war there. I mean, JoJo somehow at super
- 11:05lightweight was still managing to hurt Regis.
- 11:09Fucking Regis. That was surprising, to say the
- 11:12least. Yeah. Like, bro, just like Regis, seeing
- 11:19Regis on skates like that's a little sad. Yeah,
- 11:23I mean, we had like the little, you know, the
- 11:26tea leaves were there whenever Haney dropped
- 11:28them. That's true, actually. The tea leaves were
- 11:31there. Yeah, I mean, if Haney dropped him, it
- 11:34makes sense that JoJo dropped him. Almost. Yeah.
- 11:38Not dropped him yet, you know. Bust. You know
- 11:41what I mean. Got close. Oh, man. With this win,
- 11:49does JoJo Diaz continue to be, I don't know,
- 11:53something? What do you mean something? Like something
- 11:59in the prison system or something? Something
- 12:01of a name, I guess. Golden Boy needs who they
- 12:07can have. I mean, Golden Boy needs all the names
- 12:10they can get. True. Even if the notoriety is
- 12:15from criminal activities at this point. Yeah,
- 12:19they're desperate. I mean, they will take a nonce,
- 12:22honestly. Like, they'll probably build up another
- 12:25prospect to, like, 15 -0 and feed, like, JoJo
- 12:30to them eventually. I'm surprised that Progre
- 12:34was even on this card. I mean, he's a maximum
- 12:36fighter. I don't know why they would... Wow.
- 12:38Is he still? Are you sure, right? I thought he
- 12:44moved over to Goldenboy. Yeah, I was about to
- 12:46say, like, he totally... Like, for sure, after
- 12:49Jack had a roll... And Devin Haney smoked him
- 12:53back to back. Yeah, that's pretty sad. Honestly,
- 12:58if you go to Golden Boy at that point in your
- 13:01career, yeah, that's pretty cooked. You guys
- 13:04see Jack Ketterl's threatening the fight again?
- 13:08Yeah. He's been threatening the fight again.
- 13:12I mean, I do feel threatened myself. I'm like,
- 13:16do I really want to see that? No. I'll watch
- 13:21it. I'll watch it because there's nothing on.
- 13:25And I have to do some prep for these podcasts.
- 13:32What could be next for Regis? Crashing a go -kart.
- 13:41Main event, Oscar Duarte? Kenny Sims? A nice
- 13:49little scrap. Yeah, I liked it. It was a lot
- 13:52of fun. Yeah, it was better than I thought it
- 13:55was going to be. I thought Duarte was possibly
- 13:57going to get him out of there. But Sims, and
- 14:00he had some nice counters. I mean, his boxing
- 14:03was really good. If he actually had power, Duarte
- 14:06could have been in some issues during that fight.
- 14:10Alas. Alas. I will say that Duarte, I feel like
- 14:16I don't want to... Dog on Duarte. I know he's
- 14:18a hard hitter, but at the same time, I don't
- 14:19really think he's a knockout artist when he kind
- 14:22of moves up against top -level opponents, you
- 14:25know? He's one of those nutting volume types.
- 14:29Yeah. He just doesn't have the placement or the
- 14:33sharpness to really get in there against the
- 14:35better guy. And you can see it. Yeah. I think
- 14:42he loses to the other champs. Like, I think Hitchens
- 14:45probably outboxes him. Yeah. You know what? Matias
- 14:52Duarte is a fun -ass fight, though. Same with
- 14:56Cuello. Cuello is also fun. Yeah. At this point,
- 15:02though, I feel like he probably deserves a title
- 15:04shot, though. He's gathered a few wins. I disagree.
- 15:08I don't think he deserves a title shot yet. You
- 15:09don't think he deserves it? It's still a tough
- 15:12division. You need a win against a guy who...
- 15:17actually belongs near the top instead of... I
- 15:20would say fight him versus Barboza first. True,
- 15:23actually. That's a good show. From there, you'll
- 15:27see if he's ready for a title shot or not. I
- 15:30would say. Hell, have him fight Pueyo. Pueyo
- 15:33just lost. Yeah, but Pueyo's a PBC fighter, so
- 15:36that's a much harder fight to make. I would say
- 15:39Barboza. Where's Sandor Barboza? Yeah, that's
- 15:43true. I think that's a dumb fight to make, honestly.
- 15:46Nah, don't punish us with Sandor. Yeah. Well,
- 15:50I don't know. Martin versus Quayle was actually...
- 15:53That was a good fight. Yeah, actually. Well,
- 15:56it was a good fight, but what I mean by that
- 15:58is I don't think he's going to win at all. Unless
- 16:01they rob Sandor again, but... Oh, three times?
- 16:04He's already used to it. Yeah, he's already used
- 16:06to it. Might as well rob his ass again. Can you
- 16:10do anything? Don't do my man Sandor like that.
- 16:14Not again. Not again. Not again. What about Kenny
- 16:22Sims? Where does he go from here? Because this
- 16:24was a really competitive fight. I don't think
- 16:28he should be written off as a nobody or like
- 16:31a loser. Probably Probox. Yo, that's actually
- 16:37good. That's a good show. Fully honestly, probably
- 16:39Probox. Just for a nice little rebuild. Stick
- 16:45around on the Provox circuit, have a couple fun
- 16:48nights, and you're back on it for a chance to
- 16:51actually make it work. Yeah, when a fighter doesn't
- 16:54have a fight, a top -level fighter is lacking
- 16:58some good opponents, you'll be pulled in, and
- 17:00that's your biggest shot. We've seen a lot of
- 17:03Provox alumni make the most of their chances.
- 17:08Oh, yeah. It's good. Speaking of making the most
- 17:15of one's chances, moving to Marv Nation. Quickly,
- 17:22Jerwin on Cajas gets the majority decision over
- 17:25Ruben Casero. I don't know why Jerwin is at 122
- 17:30now. He wasn't a whole lot at 118. He was solid
- 17:36at 115, but... Just age, man. I suppose. But
- 17:42making the most of a chance, Gabe Rosado gets
- 17:45the stoppage in one over Crispulo Andino. Something
- 17:52fun about this one. Gabe Rosado came into this
- 17:5526 -17 -1. And Andino also 26 -17 -1. It's a
- 18:03really selective, very pointedly chosen opponent.
- 18:11A future Berlanga opponent right here. A future
- 18:16Canelo opponent, honestly. At this point. Oh,
- 18:20man. You know what? Make Rosado Berlanga. To
- 18:27be the king of Puerto Rico? Hell yeah. I feel
- 18:32like they're both about as bad. I mean, Gabe
- 18:39Rosado does have an experience. I mean, there's
- 18:40that, you know? Yeah. So. It's something like
- 18:46175, though. I don't know if Gabe Rosado would
- 18:49want to go back to 168. I think Berlanga's willing
- 18:55to just, like, a fat fuck and make 175, like...
- 18:59Quadruple ass burger. Berlanga, like... Let's
- 19:06not treat Berlanga like a serious contender.
- 19:09That's a fun event that's realistic for both
- 19:12guys to do. Berlanga is not serious. He can totally
- 19:16bounce between weight classes. I'm glad he could.
- 19:25I think Gabe Rosado should stop fighting. I'm
- 19:28not sure why he came back. It's not like... You
- 19:34come back to fight on MarvNation, it's like you're
- 19:37not... This isn't, like, Riyadh season money.
- 19:43MarvNation money? That check is bouncing, most
- 19:47likely, for the first of all. Like, the five
- 19:52guys they gave you at the venue after your fight
- 19:55is what you're getting paid. And maybe a shower.
- 20:01Nah, yeah, that came out of your bill, your fighter
- 20:04fees. Yeah, it was a hot shower, so you should...
- 20:08Cold shower? Yeah, we can give you change for
- 20:13the bus home. Hot shower? Not happening. So...
- 20:21Yeah, I don't know. I think I read something
- 20:25about there being a... him chasing a Berlanga
- 20:28fight, which... As sad as it is, it's realistic
- 20:32and also it'd be hilarious if Berlanga got knocked
- 20:34out by Gabe Rosado. Fuck it, Gabe Rosado versus
- 20:38Jake Paul. Not terrible. Not terrible, and I
- 20:43also have Jake Paul winning that because Gabe
- 20:46Rosado is not only not great, but he is also
- 20:49ancient. He's old school. It does get Gabe Rosado
- 20:54paid. This is true. Berlanga and Jake Paul paydays
- 21:00back to back. Fair enough, man. That's something
- 21:04you could fuck off into the sunset with. Yeah.
- 21:10Hopefully, anyway. Man, that's all we got for
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- 25:43LEO33862. Buzz, motherfucker. All right. Wasn't
- 25:55that fun? Into our previews. Two, quickly, ProBox.
- 26:04This will be on YouTube. It's free. If you're
- 26:07not watching ProBox, you fucking should be. It's
- 26:10like the only good boxing on nowadays. Yeah,
- 26:14you don't necessarily know who any of these people
- 26:17are. If you're going into this blind, it's fine.
- 26:21You're going to get some good matchups. Competitive
- 26:24fights, if nothing else. There's going to be
- 26:26a lot of competitive fights. Two guys that are
- 26:30on here. Dominic and Marquez Valle, both of them
- 26:34are a Pro Box alum, and they're decent. William
- 26:40Foster in the main event versus Muhammad Kuja
- 26:45Yakubov. This is a bit of a deep cut, but how
- 26:51familiar are you guys with Nation of Islam? Not
- 27:01at all. That's fine. Malcolm X. Right. So in
- 27:07the Nation of Islam sort of creation myth...
- 27:12Oh, yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah. Sorry. I thought
- 27:14you were talking... Yeah, Yakub. Yeah, yeah.
- 27:17The guy who did the white race. The evil demigod
- 27:20that created white people is Yakub. So this guy's
- 27:25name is Yakubov. So he's the son of Yakub. he's
- 27:30a son of yeah interesting so uh this does not
- 27:34reflect lux media's you know stances or opinions
- 27:38or anything like that uh it's just that's nation
- 27:41of islam man that's how they get down i don't
- 27:44know man i've watched enough british boxing white
- 27:46people might actually be the devil white people
- 27:50might actually be the devil if you watch enough
- 27:53british boxing I had to watch a Campbell hat
- 27:56and co -main in my lifetime. White people might
- 28:01be the devil. This is how we're going to get
- 28:03popular. It's going to get canceled. Left -wing
- 28:07grifting. But there you go. That's the main event,
- 28:14is the son of Yakub. And William Foster. And
- 28:18William Foster. Also... It's on the same day.
- 28:23The time will offset enough that you could catch
- 28:26both main events. 360 promotions. This is on,
- 28:30for some fucking reason, this is on UFC Fight
- 28:33Pass. I don't know why. Oh, my God. Oh, who's
- 28:38their promoter? It might be that Loeffler dude.
- 28:40Yeah, it's Tom Loeffler. Oh, yeah, 360, 360.
- 28:42360 promotions. Yeah, yeah. You're right. Sorry,
- 28:46buddy. I'm not getting Fight Pass just for you.
- 28:50So there's a bunch of shit on here I don't really
- 28:53care about. Moving up to the co -main, Omar Trinidad.
- 28:57He's one of their better prospects, and that's
- 29:01a very generous use of the term better prospect.
- 29:05But he's fighting Lorenzo Parra. So isn't that
- 29:11fun? It's a WBC something or other on the line
- 29:15here. Trinket, trinket. Continental America's
- 29:21featherweight. Wonderful. In the main event,
- 29:26Mizuki Hiruta is fighting Naomi Gomez. Mizuki,
- 29:33if nothing else, expect some fun ring attire,
- 29:37walkout attire. Yeah. She's like high fashion,
- 29:41fast fat, or not fast, but high fashion. Has
- 29:47like a benefactor. That's. Really. A high level
- 29:53designer. But. The main reason we're here. Saturday
- 30:02August 16th. Starts about midday. For some fucking
- 30:07reason. DAZN is making this a pay per view. In
- 30:10the US. I am. I'm very unhappy. I'm really disappointed
- 30:21that this is a pay -per -view. It has some good
- 30:24names on it, make no mistake, but is this pay
- 30:29-per -view worthy? Absolutely not. No, no, no,
- 30:34no way. Dude, this is UFC pay -per -view worthy.
- 30:39This is, yeah, this is not pay -per -view worthy,
- 30:43really. Ah, no, I think if Isaac cares about
- 30:47the sport, he'd admit that UFC pay -per -views
- 30:49have been a sham. Yeah, $80, bro? Yeah, like,
- 30:52come on. Every single time. Every single time,
- 30:56$80. Come on. Have some respect, bro. Anyways,
- 31:02on to the fights. Yeah, starting from the bottom,
- 31:06Hayato Tsutsumi, he's one of his fucksalencies
- 31:12favorites. versus Kais Ashvak. This is a feeding.
- 31:21That's a feeding, by the way. Tsutsumi's going
- 31:23to absolutely destroy Ashvak. Yeah, that's the
- 31:26plan. Yeah. Not a feeding. Maybe not. Filip Hergovich
- 31:34versus David Adelaide. I hope to God they look
- 31:40interested. Like, if they show up, like, both
- 31:44uninterested this is going to be a very smelly
- 31:47fight yeah when i was talking to shinada i said
- 31:50this one this fight is dancing on the the edge
- 31:54of a like a edge of a blade this could either
- 31:57go this could be they're both just shitty enough
- 32:02and the styles match up well enough that this
- 32:05is going to be really fucking exciting or it's
- 32:09going to be hot garbage Yeah, like Rock 'em Sock
- 32:13'em Robots or like No One's Punching Anyone.
- 32:18I'm really thinking it's going to end up being
- 32:20like No One's Punching Anyone. Yeah, Hergovich
- 32:24is going to show up like 20 pounds overweight
- 32:26and just wheeze his way to a decision. That's
- 32:32not the official prediction. That's like the
- 32:34worst outcome. Yeah. I'm hopeful that it'll be.
- 32:39That Hergovich will make it fun. Adelaide can
- 32:41be drawn into some brawls. So, yeah, I'm hopeful.
- 32:48I remember when Philip Hergovich was touted as
- 32:51the boogeyman. Oh, yeah. He was the next Bushko,
- 32:56bro. This is the issue as well. Did he not say
- 33:00he would retire if he lost to Dubois? Did he
- 33:03not say that? Did he? I say it all the time.
- 33:05Herkovich says a lot of things, and then... I
- 33:12feel like I have to lean Herkovich in this fight,
- 33:15but I don't know. Yeah, you just have to lean
- 33:18Herkovich, because Adelai's out here getting
- 33:21fucking raffle stomped by Fabio Wardley. Was
- 33:25it TKV he had fights with too, no? Or who was
- 33:28it? He's out here getting violated by Fabio Wardley,
- 33:32and then like... Technically, Hergovich only
- 33:35ever lost to Dubois. World -level contender.
- 33:40World -ish level contender. Two bums? Two bums.
- 33:45Two bums. Nah, two bums was Hergovich's last
- 33:48fight where he showed up at like 250 to go try
- 33:52to be slower than Joe Joyce. That's actually
- 33:56crazy. They looked about the same speed, which
- 33:59was like, come on, man. How is that possible?
- 34:03Because Joe Joyce is comically slow. Joe Joyce
- 34:07was, like, birthed in a tub of molasses. Like,
- 34:13that's what I mean. Moving up, Ray Ford versus
- 34:22Abraham Nova. I'm actually pretty excited for
- 34:27this. Yeah, this is going to be a good fight.
- 34:28This is a good fight. this is a really good fight
- 34:31for for ford and no novice by the way by the
- 34:36way we do have to say kakachi straight up duck
- 34:40uh raymond ford straight up dog i mean he at
- 34:43least he vacated but this is a complete duck
- 34:45yeah but yeah yeah i'm still excited for this
- 34:52one though i'm still excited yeah no no was it
- 34:54nova's not terrible either like he's a good good
- 34:57selling contender His walkout will be fun. Oh,
- 35:01yeah. I think Raymond Ford's going to take it,
- 35:04though. Oh, Ford's going to take it for sure.
- 35:06Even his fight with Nick Ball, you can probably
- 35:09shade it his way, too. Raymond Ford is a bit
- 35:15of a deceptive record in the sense that he's
- 35:18absolutely at the top of his division. He just
- 35:22got a couple bad shakes in his career. He's fourth
- 35:26on box rec. For whatever that counts. Oh. You're
- 35:32lying. Moving up. Nick Ball. Second on BoxRec.
- 35:41I believe he's the WBA Titleist. He's fighting
- 35:48Sam Goodman out of Australia. Undefeated Sam
- 35:53Goodman. This isn't going to go good for... old
- 35:56Sammy boy here. I will say, I would love Sam
- 36:02Goodman to win. That would be hilarious. The
- 36:04thing is, Australian champion Nick Ball, I think
- 36:11it'd be way funnier if Inoue or Nakatani moved
- 36:15up and fought Nick Ball and sent his head into
- 36:19the third row. Yeah, but I mean, I want to see
- 36:25Nick Ball lose a title no matter what, just because
- 36:27right now there's no risk. Yeah, but like a shitty
- 36:31decision to Sam Goodman or like Inouye sending
- 36:34his head into the third row. Whatever, he takes
- 36:36away the title, honestly. Oh, my God. I mean,
- 36:39this is the UK's only champ. This is really the
- 36:42UK's only champ. Oh, you're right, actually.
- 36:43Actually, never mind. I take that back. If he's
- 36:46the UK's only champ, then get rid of that title.
- 36:48They've had an active champion for the last,
- 36:51like, 30 or 40 years. Just consistently breaking
- 36:56this streak. I want Sam Goodman to fucking break
- 36:59that streak. That would just be too funny. We're
- 37:01pulling for Sam Goodman. Lux Media is behind
- 37:07Sam Goodman. Let's go, Goodman. Moving up to
- 37:14the main event, Moses Itauma. versus Dillian
- 37:19White. This is probably the shittiest fight on
- 37:22this card. When was the last time Dillian White
- 37:26was in shape? And I can tell you. I can tell
- 37:28you. Teta, bro. That was barely. No, in shape?
- 37:34I don't know if Teta was in shape. I guess round
- 37:36is a shape. Yeah. Nah, he pulled up to the first
- 37:41Povetkin fight in shape. The one where he got...
- 37:45We saw what happened there, yeah. Yeah, I know.
- 37:47He looked so good. He does the first time I've
- 37:50ever seen him, like, box without looking like
- 37:53he was going to, like, jump out of the ring.
- 37:56And he fucking lost. And it was so funny. The
- 38:02funniest shit I've ever seen. The first time
- 38:04he actually looked competent in my life. I'm
- 38:08pretty sure he knows his role, but it would be
- 38:10funny if, you know, I hate to say it, but it
- 38:13would be pretty funny if Moses Atomic gets knocked
- 38:15out by fucking Dillian White. Dillian White left
- 38:18hook. It's like, it destroys the UK's boxing
- 38:22hopes for the future. Yeah, bro. Dave Allen.
- 38:26Dave Allen is now your top heavyweight. I mean,
- 38:30imagine Nick Ball and Moe Zaitama losing one
- 38:32night. Dave Allen is now your best heavyweight.
- 38:38God bless. That is dire straits. I mean, Bond's
- 38:45playing a dangerous game here, you know? It's
- 38:48not dangerous. Dillian White, come on. Like,
- 38:51I, like, unless Itama is, like, a complete fraud,
- 38:54like, he should, like, this should not even be
- 38:56a question. Itama should get him out. He is a
- 39:02name, because I think Dillian White, you said
- 39:03Dillian White was ranked what earlier? He fought
- 39:06Tyson Fury as a mandatory. Like, he's still ranked
- 39:10well in, like, fifth to tenth. But, like, this
- 39:16guy has never looked good. He looked good in
- 39:19his life once, and he lost. Uppercut. The uppercut.
- 39:25And then it took, like, it took COVID to be able
- 39:29to beat Povetkin. Man. So, what round range are
- 39:41you giving to Tom of the Win? I'm going to say
- 39:45in four. What are you saying? I'm saying four
- 39:54to six, so not because of, like, anything on
- 39:58White or Atama's part. I'm saying that White
- 40:01is totally going to, like, do the usual, like,
- 40:05I grab onto the ropes for dear life. I headbutt
- 40:08you. Like. Grimy. Yeah, like the usual roughhouse
- 40:14shit to make it that far. Four to six range.
- 40:19Honestly, I think he's going to get him out within
- 40:21two rounds. That too. That might happen too.
- 40:25I'm being slightly more conservative. I think
- 40:29it'll be quick. Real quick though. Imagine if
- 40:33White manages to beat Atama. What happens then?
- 40:38I think he's going to get in the ring and shoot
- 40:40him. I piss myself laughing. I mean, because,
- 40:44bro, the UK has no one. If that happens. It's
- 40:48all up to Dave Allen to beat McAuliffe and get
- 40:52in the fucking mix. The savior of the heavyweight
- 40:58division, 24 -7 -2 Dave Allen. That's crazy.
- 41:05Guy who lost to David Price, Dave Allen. I mean,
- 41:12Isaac, what are you saying that you thought Dillian
- 41:15White does have a chance to get out? I've never,
- 41:19never, never said those words in my life. You
- 41:22said it, bro. No, no. No, Isaac didn't say it.
- 41:27Saul said it. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. You
- 41:31just said, wouldn't it be funny if he did it?
- 41:33Well, I'm saying, wouldn't it be funny? Not like...
- 41:36He's going to do it. Like, wouldn't it be funny
- 41:38if fucking Jared Anderson came back and became
- 41:40the heavyweight champion of the world and then
- 41:42fought Deontay Wilder and became undisputed?
- 41:44Therefore, Deontay Wilder is the best champion
- 41:46we've ever had? I mean, come on. That would be
- 41:49funny. It's not going to happen. Jesus. You know
- 41:54what? Let's do weight predictions. Do we think
- 41:56Dillian White shows up under or over 260 pounds?
- 42:02I'm going under. Yeah, I think under, he actually
- 42:05looks a little bit more fit. He does. According
- 42:08to the videos. Is he wearing a black t -shirt
- 42:12and he's got the lighting and everything? No,
- 42:15I think he was shirtless in one of them. Nice.
- 42:18Y 'all ever see that video of him when he was
- 42:24at one of the Riaj season cards where his trainer
- 42:28gives him way too much water? No. What? Oh, fuck.
- 42:34I got a point. It's so funny. What, he starts
- 42:38coughing? Yeah, he starts, like, spitting out
- 42:41the water. Yeah, Dillian White versus water.
- 42:47I'll send it. It's in the chat. This is what
- 42:54I think of other than the Povetkin knockout.
- 43:09Oh, he gets so upset. He's so upset. He's so
- 43:14fucking mad. Guys, sorry, that's the only Dillian
- 43:22White highlight in the past, like, five years.
- 43:32Sorry. No, that happened in 2019. There are no
- 43:34Dillian White highlights in the past five years.
- 43:38I don't know. I think the Povetkin. Alright,
- 43:43we're still a week off of that being five years
- 43:44ago. The Fury. The Fury fight as well. The Southpaw
- 43:50stance. The Southpaw coming out with a card.
- 43:57Okay, we'll see you later. That fight was hilarious.
- 44:00Bro, the Jermaine Franklin fight was hilarious.
- 44:02He's, like, dying. Buddy McGirt's like, you need
- 44:04to throw even more volume and even more body
- 44:07shots. And Dillian's just, like, wheezing and
- 44:11dying in his corner. Buddy McGirt must have been
- 44:15fuming, bro. Buddy McGirt's like, bro, you need
- 44:17to throw more punches. And, like, Dillian, notorious,
- 44:20like, this guy does no cardio ever. He's like,
- 44:23come on, bro. Derek James. James. Honestly, I
- 44:33don't think there's any trainer who can fix him.
- 44:37I got it. I know. Robert Garcia can get him right.
- 44:42If anyone can. God, I guess. It's too late. It's
- 44:48too late. Yeah, Robert Garcia gets him and he
- 44:53becomes vintage Marcos Maidana at heavyweight.
- 44:59You never know, guys. You never know. 92 punches
- 45:01in a round. Only for, like, two rounds. Two?
- 45:11Hey, you know what? What if Dylan White beat
- 45:14Itama, then he got a shot at interim, became
- 45:18the mandatory, and then fought Usyk, beat Usyk,
- 45:21boom! Dylan White's the undisputed heavyweight
- 45:24champion in the world. I think Derek Chisora
- 45:29beats Dillian White right now, dude. If they
- 45:36make that damn trilogy, it's literally just two
- 45:39old men fighting over the last cup of pudding
- 45:43at their retirement home, dude. Those aren't
- 45:49the gum shields. Those are dentures being taken
- 45:51out. Christ, man. What is the state of heavyweight?
- 46:00We're talking about a hyped prospect, and we're
- 46:03like, what if he loses to Dillian White? Never,
- 46:07never. Yeah, like I said. Were people like this
- 46:13when he fought Anthony Joshua? Guys, what if
- 46:17he lost to Dillian White? AJ was still really
- 46:23young at the time. That's true. Exactly. Like,
- 46:27what if people were like this back then? I guess
- 46:32white was still considered okay back then, actually.
- 46:35That's a bad comparison. It's a little ridiculous
- 46:41nowadays because, like, come on, bro. I've seen
- 46:46teenagers on, like, Street Beefs who would be
- 46:48dillying white right now. But, um... What's next
- 46:56for Atama if he beats... Oh, sorry. When he beats
- 46:59White. If. If. Sorry. Freudian slip. When. Who's
- 47:08next? Is Atama... Is he Queensberry or Matchroom?
- 47:18Queensberry. Queensberry. He's with Frank Warren.
- 47:23Old fish eyes. Honestly, I think I want to give
- 47:32Lawrence a Coley. I want to put a Coley out to
- 47:34pasture. That would be lovely. If Atama completely
- 47:40obliterates Dillian White in less than two rounds,
- 47:43just give him a Coley, put a Coley out to pasture,
- 47:46and then you have a pretty perfect rankings position.
- 47:52Michael Hunter. That's assuming Michael Hunter
- 47:58wants to get off his couch the box for someone
- 48:00other than Don King. Yeah, I mean, he's got that
- 48:04fight booked now, apparently. Don King announces.
- 48:13I'm not really sure. Murat Gassiev? Murat Gassiev.
- 48:24We were still talking about Gassiev in the big
- 48:262025. Oh, come on, bro. I was actually hyped
- 48:29for Gassiev. And then he decided to be a fat
- 48:32fuck and eat for five years. Okay. Okay. That
- 48:39shit killed me. At Cruiserweight, like, okay.
- 48:43Getting owned by Usyk is not like... No shame.
- 48:48Like any kind of disqualifier for still being
- 48:51good. If you actually watch the Super Series,
- 48:55like, obliterating Lebedev and Dorticos, he looked
- 48:59really good. Man. He looked so good. Like, the
- 49:07Usyk fight? Whatever, bro. Usyk literally beats
- 49:10everyone. And Gassi have actually hurt Usyk barely
- 49:16for, like, three seconds, but that's still better
- 49:19than most people. So, took Tyson Fury two fucking
- 49:26tries to hurt him. But yeah, and then he just
- 49:33got fat. He's done jack shit. Losing to Otto
- 49:42Wallen, that fight was sad to watch. I was like,
- 49:44any second now, he's just going to kill Wallen,
- 49:47and he just never did. Yeah, he's expecting that
- 49:52power to show back up. Because he still has it.
- 49:55He shows up to all of his fights as a fat piece
- 49:58of shit and just casually knocks them out and
- 50:00leaves probably for another round at the buffet
- 50:02before it closes. It's a little sad. It's more
- 50:14than a little sad. I really like the ass he is.
- 50:22Oh, well, that's... That is just me. Nah, it
- 50:28wasn't just you. I was on the Gassi of Train
- 50:30as well. Yeah. No, then it's just you too, then.
- 50:35It's just us, then. Okay, it's just us. It's
- 50:38just us, man. Me and Isaac are on that Zurdo.
- 50:41On that Zurdo one. Right now, yeah. I'm trying
- 50:46to think of... Let me see who was in that Super
- 50:48Series. Boxing Super Series Cruiserweight. Let
- 50:54me see. I want to see it. Zerda would actually
- 50:59beat Marco Huck, I think. Prime Huck or Super
- 51:07Series? The Marco Huck that showed up to the
- 51:10Super Series. But I don't think he'd beat anyone
- 51:13else. Are you just pro -Grey? Yeah, I'm talking
- 51:21about... Because it was, like, you have Usyk,
- 51:24Maris Bredis, Dortikos, Gassiev. And I can't
- 51:29pronounce his name, but he just won the Bridgerweight
- 51:31title at, like, age... Kudryashov or some shit?
- 51:35Or, uh, Vlad Jarzyk. Yeah. Well, anything more
- 51:45for Atalma, Billy, and White? Let's go with the
- 51:51lead one! That would be too funny. We will be
- 51:56paying for this. Totally. Of course. They will
- 52:01be sucking the money out of my ass like always.
- 52:05I'd rather buy this pay -per -view than a fucking
- 52:07UFC pay -per -view. Sorry, Isaac. I don't think
- 52:11Isaac disagrees, man. Yeah, I've been hyper with
- 52:15someone for some time now. Fuck Isaacs. I feel
- 52:19like Isaac has some self -respect here, man.
- 52:23Well, I think Tom is going to have to be the
- 52:25sacrificial goat. Or sacrificial lamb. For what?
- 52:32So the British boxing scene can be dead. Oh,
- 52:37yeah. We got to get rid of Nick Ball. Nick Ball's
- 52:41got to go first, bro. No, he's got to go for
- 52:43sure. Baby steps. All right, let me do this.
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- 54:01All right. So we're heading into Atalma Dillian
- 54:06White Weekend. Parting words. Saul, kick us off
- 54:09here. I'm kind of shitting and giggling. I have
- 54:13nothing against British boxers. Whoever wins
- 54:15will win. I'll be happy if Sam Goodman wins because
- 54:18that would be kind of funny. But Nick Ball is
- 54:20still a decent fighter. Mosai Tama, again, as
- 54:24much as I bullshit around, I do want him to win.
- 54:26I think that he's a great fighter and he's important
- 54:29for the heavyweight division in the future. And
- 54:30I'm glad we have these killers, these young killers.
- 54:33These young, hungry... Young, hungry lions. Josh,
- 54:43what do you got? Provock's good. Is that it?
- 54:49Classic. A classic, yes. Yeah. Isaac, you want
- 54:52to throw anything out? Yeah, I'm just looking
- 54:55forward to, you know, this weekend of fights.
- 54:57Nick Ball, Sam Goodman. We'll see what happens
- 55:00after UK can hold on to that win streak or champion
- 55:03streak. Ford versus Nova. I'm excited. And then,
- 55:07yeah, finally, with Otama, like Saul was saying,
- 55:10I think he's good for the division. I hope they
- 55:13can get that win. All right. That's it for this
- 55:19edition of the Boxing B -Sides. We'll see you
- 55:22on the other side.