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- 0:00The B-Side and boxing.
- 0:02B-Side shit.
- 0:03B-Side.
- 0:04B-Side.
- 0:05And the B-Side.
- 0:05You got a B-Side.
- 0:07The B-Side.
- 0:08B-Side.
- 0:08B-Side.
- 0:09B-Side.
- 0:10That B-Side thing.
- 0:11This is the B-Sides Boxing Podcast.
- 0:21Have you ever said, do you say Merry Christmas?
- 0:25Because that's what I hear everybody say.
- 0:27I've been trying to get myself in the habit of saying Happy Christmas.
- 0:31Because fuck you.
- 0:32That's really the only reason I have.
- 0:34Is to piss everyone off?
- 0:36Yep.
- 0:36That's the only reason I have.
- 0:37I said Happy Holidays to someone here?
- 0:40Confuse the fuck out of them.
- 0:42They have no idea what that saying means.
- 0:44There's more than one?
- 0:45What the fuck does that mean?
- 0:46Well, they thought I meant have a nice Sunday.
- 0:53Then I'm gonna just go with Happy, or Merry Christmas.
- 0:55Yeah.
- 0:55Let's keep it casual.
- 0:56The classic.
- 0:57Yeah.
- 0:58Man.
- 0:59Christmas is not a thing here.
- 1:01My Christmas day, the big event is my boss buys us lunch.
- 1:07And there is a birthday cake for Jesus.
- 1:09Really?
- 1:11Yeah.
- 1:11It says Merry Christmas, but it's a birthday cake.
- 1:14And I asked why.
- 1:16And they're like, well, it's Jesus's birthday today.
- 1:18Don't you guys all eat birthday cake for Jesus?
- 1:23I don't think I've ever had anything except fruit cake at Christmas.
- 1:27Fruit cake.
- 1:29But it's decorated like a birthday cake.
- 1:32No.
- 1:34No.
- 1:35Not once have I ever had a birthday cake,
- 1:37even with extended relatives who were pretty religious.
- 1:43And their little family circle was really religious,
- 1:46and they didn't have one.
- 1:49Who the fuck has a birthday cake?
- 1:52Japan.
- 1:53It's KFC and birthday cake for Jesus.
- 1:57I've never seen that before.
- 2:01Well, sometimes their interpretations are very funny.
- 2:04I really it.
- 2:05There's that one scene in Full Metal Jacket
- 2:08where the drill instructor sings Happy Birthday, Dear Jesus.
- 2:13That's a joke.
- 2:15Yeah.
- 2:16Well, we got it is Christmas Day.
- 2:20Happy, happy Christmas, you fucks from the Boxing B-Sides,
- 2:24joined by Shannada Isaac.
- 2:27Glad you could be with me on such a monumentous birthday day.
- 2:36Well, as is B-Sides tradition in the spirit of the holidays,
- 2:41we're going to give a gift to our our compatriots.
- 2:45We're at the ultimate fucking casuals on December 14th.
- 2:49Colby Covington versus Joaquin Buckley.
- 2:53Isaac, very good that you're here.
- 2:55Thoughts?
- 2:56Is Colby Covington done?
- 2:59At the elite level, yes.
- 3:01And I feel like we might see him fight like one more time,
- 3:04but no more title shots 100 percent, no more title shots.
- 3:08And then I don't know, man, the fan base is really not having it
- 3:11anymore with Colby Covington.
- 3:12They were chanting Colby sucks.
- 3:14Yeah, I heard that.
- 3:14For like an entire round.
- 3:16I think I think he's done.
- 3:18He might get I don't think he'll like retire yet or, you know,
- 3:22you're not going to be cut from the roster, but maybe like one more fight
- 3:25and that'll be it.
- 3:26You don't think he'll Anthony Smith it and go on just way too long?
- 3:30I know I don't see him.
- 3:31I don't I don't see him doing that.
- 3:33I mean, losing to Buckley is not bad.
- 3:35Buckley is like like on a four fight winning streak, maybe even more.
- 3:38I think actually maybe like six.
- 3:39He's on a hot streak for sure.
- 3:41Yeah. So like it's it's not like, oh, he lost to Buckley.
- 3:44You know, he's a terrible fighter.
- 3:45It's not like that. But his age, I mean,
- 3:48he sort of got ran over as well.
- 3:50I would sort of say the steamroll.
- 3:53His face was really, really bloody man.
- 3:55Like eating a lot.
- 3:57But yeah, I don't know.
- 3:58I'd say maybe one more fight.
- 4:00He's got him. I don't know against who, but maybe they could do like that.
- 4:03He's got beef with a wonder boy.
- 4:06I can see them trying to do that.
- 4:08No, like like a loser leaves town or something like that.
- 4:12That's somewhat of a storyline there.
- 4:13But yeah, he's done. He's good.
- 4:16Battle of the hamper men.
- 4:19Yeah.
- 4:20I would be crushed if Colby be Wonder Boys.
- 4:23Well, that actually hurt.
- 4:25Yeah, I don't know enough about
- 4:27Stephen Thompson to say, but seeing Colby Covington lose again
- 4:31would definitely land for that.
- 4:34100 percent.
- 4:35Oh, well, given that today that you're hearing this, the 21st,
- 4:42we know what happened then, but we're not talking about that today.
- 4:44We're talking about that next time.
- 4:46So in our recap portion, Saturday, December 14th was a busy day.
- 4:52Some that we can just glide through, for example, boxer fucking Natasha Jonas
- 5:00defeats Ivana Havasin for the IBF and WBC titles to unify them.
- 5:06So congrats to Natasha.
- 5:09Golden Boy card.
- 5:10I only pick I cherry pick this one because there's like 15
- 5:13fucking fights on this and the three that I have listed.
- 5:17I'm going from the top down.
- 5:18This is the order of how much I care.
- 5:21And the drop off from number one to the next is very steep.
- 5:26So first up, Charles Conwell, KO seven over her, though, Vergara.
- 5:31It was a fucking Charles Conwell was on the come up.
- 5:34This guy's legit.
- 5:35I hope he leaves Golden Boy so you can get some serious fights.
- 5:38Yeah, we all know Golden Boy is where we're just going to die.
- 5:41Yeah, we get locked up for hopes and dreams go to fucking die.
- 5:45So Charles Conwell, I know you're listening, buddy, friend of the show.
- 5:50When you want to come on and chat, talk about how you're going to leave Golden
- 5:52Boy, let me know moving down.
- 5:54This is where the drop off of how much I give a shit is very apparent.
- 5:58Alexis Rocha majority draw over Raul Curiel.
- 6:02I just really struggled to care about Alexis Rocha.
- 6:05You got to be pretty down bad if this is your main event.
- 6:08Actually, I watched this one.
- 6:10The fight itself was fine, I guess.
- 6:14Like they threw a lot of punches.
- 6:17That's like a for or e for effort.
- 6:20Thank you.
- 6:21They hit each other at least.
- 6:23Yeah, but I mean, that's better than a boring fight that has no punches.
- 6:28True.
- 6:28Yeah, I mean, we've seen way worse.
- 6:30We survived, uh, they go versus Casamiro.
- 6:33So we've seen way, way worse.
- 6:36And we, you know, the current Chakur pandemic as well that we've been going through.
- 6:41So, uh, yeah, I mean, I guess by those standards in comparison, but yeah.
- 6:48The pillow fist pandemic.
- 6:50Devin Haney.
- 6:51It's going to get worse.
- 6:52Stevenson.
- 6:53It's going to get worse.
- 6:53Chakur injured his hands, bro.
- 6:55Chakur is going to be, he's going to be healing.
- 6:57He's going to be fighting in winning gloves.
- 7:01Yeah.
- 7:03They need to, they're going to need to get him.
- 7:05Give him some type of handicap, like give Chakur like some, some lighter gloves.
- 7:09Four ounce gloves.
- 7:10Give him some MMA gloves out there.
- 7:12They can get a little bit harder.
- 7:13Yeah.
- 7:14Yeah.
- 7:14Get, get, help him out a little bit.
- 7:17Eddie needs to work on that.
- 7:18Whoever he's with.
- 7:19I don't know if Chakur is.
- 7:21I think he's a free agent.
- 7:22Oh, I was, I don't even think he knows where he's at the moment.
- 7:24He just bounced around and he's getting Eddie one day, top ranked the next.
- 7:31How would you rate.
- 7:32Rocha Kuriel verse Hitchenson Paro.
- 7:37I'd rather watch Rocha.
- 7:39I think.
- 7:39Goodness gracious.
- 7:41I too dislike Richardson Hitchens that much.
- 7:47Clinchins.
- 7:48Yeah.
- 7:49And last thing that I wanted to point out on this one, Marlon Esparza,
- 7:52UD over Areli Musino.
- 7:54I only point this out because I think Marlon Esparza is pretty cute.
- 7:57So that's really it.
- 7:59No other reason to point out.
- 8:00It, uh, no other reason.
- 8:03Uh, moving on Marv nation.
- 8:05There were several fights on this card.
- 8:08Not very many of them were good.
- 8:10So the first one to point out, this was the main event.
- 8:14It was, uh, Fernando Vargas, Jr.
- 8:17First, Matthew Terry gets stopped at the end of the fourth, beginning of the fifth,
- 8:22you know, that little, uh, intermission there.
- 8:25The doctor stopped it on a cut.
- 8:27And since four rounds had been completed, it went to decision and it was unanimous.
- 8:33And more importantly for me, this was the main event for me, Mark Maxile
- 8:37KO two over Brian Mercado.
- 8:39My only note for this one was levels because there's fucking levels to this game.
- 8:44And, uh, you're not on Maxiles.
- 8:47Sorry, Brian.
- 8:48I really like Megs I.
- 8:49Oh, I do too.
- 8:51Yeah.
- 8:51I've been, I've been on the hype train for him for a while.
- 8:54I just, he doesn't fight that often.
- 8:56He's not that affected.
- 8:58He needs more fights.
- 8:59No, he does.
- 9:00It's just that they're against like this Thunder Studios bullshit where he's
- 9:04fighting like nobodies when he should be in title contention.
- 9:08His only losses are to Figueroa and Ray Vargas, both of which he was extremely
- 9:13competitive.
- 9:14So maybe I just don't see very many of his fights because it's so low level and not fun.
- 9:21Yeah.
- 9:22I try to, whenever you see random shit on our outline, like I tried, there are
- 9:27certain, like if I see a name that is worth mentioning, like Mark Maxile, it's
- 9:34definitely worth looking into, but I hope he's, I don't know if he's moving up to
- 9:38lightweight permanently or if he just didn't want to make the, the one 30 cut
- 9:43for this fight in particular, but one 35 is pretty heavy, pretty stacked.
- 9:49And I felt like he should, he should have been headlining this.
- 9:52I mean, I feel like Marvination.
- 9:54Yeah, they did.
- 9:55He needs to have him headlining.
- 9:56He's going to be with them.
- 9:57I was expecting that it was like when the, as I was kind of panning through, looking
- 10:01for the particular fights I wanted to see, and I saw Vargas at the end and, or
- 10:07towards the end.
- 10:08And then I kind of kept scooching forward.
- 10:11Like, where's Mark?
- 10:12I want to see Mark fight.
- 10:13I don't give a fuck about all of these people.
- 10:15And he was the first one opening fight.
- 10:19That's, um, yeah.
- 10:22What the fuck?
- 10:23If I had a ticket to this, I would have, like Mark comes out first, fights over.
- 10:27I'm leaving.
- 10:29I don't give a fuck about it.
- 10:30Other people were, yeah, no shit.
- 10:32I don't want to see this.
- 10:33Yeah.
- 10:35But there you go.
- 10:36Uh, Maxile gets a quick stoppage and still looks good.
- 10:41Um, but hopefully we, he can still do that against better competition.
- 10:46All right.
- 10:46In Monte Carlo, match room, uh, starting from the bottom up, Terra Moana, Terra
- 10:54Moana, this is his name, uh, stops of a lot of mere cut, sook in the first.
- 10:59And then he does a Haka afterwards.
- 11:01It was so cool.
- 11:02If you haven't seen this, go watch it.
- 11:06Um, as more and more, I'm finding the Dazon subscription to be more and more
- 11:10worth its costs as more groups, more promotions and stuff sign onto it as their network.
- 11:17Yeah.
- 11:17I've been really enjoying some of the, I don't want to say low level, but less
- 11:22prestigious Dazon cards, like there's, they're putting together decent mid cards.
- 11:29If that makes sense.
- 11:30I think, uh, it's like the old, uh, adage of throwing spaghetti at the wall and
- 11:36seeing what sticks like sifting through the duds to find the good one.
- 11:40That's what we do for you.
- 11:42And with the zone, you can watch it later.
- 11:45Yeah, that's what, that's why, that's why we're here is to, you don't have to
- 11:49look through all of this bullshit because we do it for you.
- 11:52All right.
- 11:52Moving up Maxie Hughes beats Gary Collie.
- 11:56The fucking skid continues for Gary losing to two.
- 12:02Uh, what's the M word for small people?
- 12:05Uh, Maxie Hughes, very short compared to Gary Collie just kicks his ass all 10
- 12:11rounds.
- 12:12Sorry, Gary.
- 12:13Have you tried being not Irish?
- 12:16Sorry.
- 12:17Leonardo Mosquera.
- 12:19You get to keep your name pal.
- 12:21Welcome to the winners club.
- 12:23Uh, split decision over Shavon Clark.
- 12:26That decision is dog shit.
- 12:28Shavon Clark got his ass kicked the whole time.
- 12:31And it was, so there's a problem though with Mr. Mosquera here.
- 12:37So he's from, born in the Dominican Republic, but he's lived and continues
- 12:42to fight out of France.
- 12:44So I'm not going to hold that against you because I'm just going to say you're
- 12:50Dominican, uh, hermano.
- 12:53We're in there.
- 12:54The winning Leo's club, moving on to the next one.
- 12:57We're in there, the winning Leo's club, moving up Beatrice Fajera, beauty over
- 13:04Licia Boudersa, IBF lightweight title.
- 13:08Uh, yeah, enjoy.
- 13:11And the headline, MJ, more John Akhmedov, TKO three over, uh, Ricardo Espinosa,
- 13:19the interim WBA 122 belt on the line.
- 13:23My observations, MJ looked good.
- 13:26He had this, he was spamming this one technique where he was throwing out a
- 13:30left straight and kind of leaving it there for, uh, Espinosa to commit to
- 13:34something and then he would catch him with a hook as he's coming in and he
- 13:37just kept doing it.
- 13:38And while it was effective, obviously you got the stoppage, but it's like, bro,
- 13:42you can't keep doing the same shit.
- 13:44Somebody is going to pick up on the pattern and that somebody holds the
- 13:48actual title that you're holding now.
- 13:51So MJ calling it away and duck, right.
- 13:56And, uh, in a way it's like hilarious.
- 13:58Like you lost to Marlon fucking topless.
- 14:02So shut up.
- 14:06Yeah.
- 14:06You don't see in a way clap backs very often, but I thought that one was quite
- 14:11effective.
- 14:11Something about saying Japanese is just, it makes it like even more hilarious.
- 14:16The fact that you have to hit translate.
- 14:17Translate. Yeah.
- 14:22Well, cause you don't expect it, or at least for me, I was like, Oh, what does
- 14:26it away have to say?
- 14:28It's like, you lost it to palace.
- 14:31Why would I run from you?
- 14:33And you're like, Oh, excellent.
- 14:35I would have expected him to say like what I would have thought.
- 14:39Uh, just at first I get a notice notification tweet from Noelle Inouye.
- 14:44Hit.
- 14:44I would have expected it to say like, Oh, that was, he looked pretty good.
- 14:47That'll be a great fight.
- 14:49We'll have a good, good challenge, uh, in front of us or something like that.
- 14:54You know, something world sportsman like, I mean, it didn't seem super rude,
- 15:00but it was definitely like, why would I fight garbage like you?
- 15:06Why would I be running from the guy who lost to who I knocked out?
- 15:12That does not make sense to me.
- 15:13I love to see it.
- 15:15Love to see.
- 15:16Right.
- 15:16So based on this, I still say MJ is a good fight for in a way at 122.
- 15:23It's not for, I think that's like a kind of a, just to really sweep
- 15:30everyone that's available.
- 15:32Yeah.
- 15:33It is kind of the last guy he hasn't beaten.
- 15:37I could, I would understand if he doesn't, it makes sense.
- 15:40Like, I want to see this dude at 126, man.
- 15:43I, yeah, that's, I want to see him at 126.
- 15:45I want to see some brisk.
- 15:47I know not, not all Inoue fans have the sentiment.
- 15:50No, I don't want my boy to lose.
- 15:53I want Nakatani to come up.
- 15:55I think the Japanese super fight would be fucking awesome.
- 15:58And I think if Inoue goes to 126, it'll never happen.
- 16:02That would be, I would be down for that.
- 16:04I would be down for that.
- 16:05Like that, like you said, the Japanese like Super Bowl, it
- 16:07would be an amazing fight.
- 16:10I don't know, man, something about, I mean, I think he could do
- 16:13well at 126.
- 16:14I'm like, just, I mean, just thinking about ball versus Inoue.
- 16:18It would be fireworks, man.
- 16:20It would, it would be fireworks.
- 16:21Inoue taller than somebody.
- 16:24That would be so funny.
- 16:26Yeah.
- 16:27I think he'd get, like, I'm not saying like, when I say it, I
- 16:30don't mean like, oh, Inoue's going to lose if he moves up.
- 16:31Like, I think he could generally like win and like win titles at 126 too.
- 16:35So he has the skill for sure.
- 16:38Yeah.
- 16:38I just, I like watching him be dominant and I think he'll be normal at 126.
- 16:45He won't be a superhero.
- 16:46He won't be a monster anymore.
- 16:48He'll just be good.
- 16:50It's, it's like the same reason I don't like Halo ODST.
- 16:55You're, you're now a stoppable killing machine.
- 16:58Now I'm going to be an unstoppable.
- 17:01Yeah.
- 17:02Bullets hurt me though.
- 17:03I don't want to worry about him.
- 17:06I just want to watch him go.
- 17:08Yeah.
- 17:09It is risky.
- 17:10Like, I mean, that's one of the big things about like, you know, boxing in general.
- 17:13It's sort of fun when you're like, when your guys are winning or the guys or girls are
- 17:17winning, I don't know something about that risky fight where you don't quite know.
- 17:22And they actually do this, you know, am I going to see my, my guy get laid out?
- 17:26With other fighters, I like that.
- 17:28And just not with Inoue.
- 17:30He's special to me.
- 17:32Yeah.
- 17:33I mean, I don't know.
- 17:33Like, I like getting those nerves up that, that heart racing a little bit, you know,
- 17:37with Fury Usek, obviously.
- 17:38And then I mean, I felt the same, like whenever Canelo fought Vovol, whenever he was doing
- 17:43his campaign at 168 for all the belts.
- 17:46And there's that slight, you know, set the back of your mind or like, you know, the night
- 17:49before you dream, is my guy going to get knocked out?
- 17:52Is he going to lose?
- 17:52And it's, I don't know.
- 17:54It's just, it's part of the fandom.
- 17:56I don't know.
- 17:56It's really nice.
- 17:57Yeah.
- 17:58I can get behind that with everyone else.
- 18:01Looking at 126, if he wanted to just like snag a title, Angelo Leo is the, you know,
- 18:07obvious pick because he's a, he was originally a 122 guy.
- 18:11So moving up to 126 to fight another guy who moved up as well.
- 18:16Not a bad pick.
- 18:17Nick Ball for size.
- 18:18Yeah.
- 18:19I also think he could just outclass Nick Ball.
- 18:23I don't think Nick Ball is going to be able to keep up with Inouye footwork wise.
- 18:27No, he'll be just chasing after him.
- 18:29Yeah.
- 18:30I think, I think he'd actually like end up cracking Ball.
- 18:33Ball's got power coming Inouye's way as well, but I think he'd be, he'd be
- 18:37able to catch Ball like pretty badly.
- 18:39Espinosa is big though for the division, no?
- 18:41Oh yeah.
- 18:41He's super tall.
- 18:42Isn't he like moving up to 130 or something like that?
- 18:46Oh that actually is going to be interesting because there might be another vacancy at 126.
- 18:50Six foot one at 126 pounds.
- 18:53Goodness.
- 18:55Six foot one, that's almost, well, it's not a foot difference, but like seven, eight
- 19:01inches difference.
- 19:02It's a sizable difference.
- 19:03In a way we'd have to fucking jump to hit him in the face.
- 19:09Ball versus Espinosa would be hilarious to see in the ring.
- 19:14Cartoon ass fight.
- 19:16Yeah, it is.
- 19:18To bring it back to the Monte Carlo card to wrap it up, which round does MJ knockout
- 19:26Inouye and why is it four or five?
- 19:34I imagine you're turning red at the moment.
- 19:36So moving on, moving on.
- 19:38I just, MJ is a good fight still, but yeah, there's still plenty of other options.
- 19:43The two super fights, Junta Nakatani for sure.
- 19:47That one is like a must and Tenshin Asakawa.
- 19:50Yeah, I think Inouye makes Tenshin look like a child, but.
- 19:54I mean, he fucking is.
- 19:56Doesn't matter how old he is.
- 19:58He's not.
- 19:59Yeah, he acts like he's about 17.
- 20:02Right.
- 20:03Now moving on, Zanfur promotions in Tijuana.
- 20:11I'm going to cherry pick on my way up from the bottom.
- 20:13Sebastian Reyes or Sergio Sosa.
- 20:16Sebastian wins in the seventh by stoppage.
- 20:20Alan Picasso, KO3 over Isak Saki.
- 20:24It's a guy, just a very, very late replacement.
- 20:27I think like two, two or three days, I know it is maximum.
- 20:31Stops him in the third.
- 20:33Yeah, sorry, bud.
- 20:35So Picasso is very much of the same ilk as Sam Goodman in that they're both going to
- 20:46just completely outclass in a way.
- 20:4912 to nothing sort of performance.
- 20:55He is the one they've been talking about having in a way fight in Vegas.
- 20:59Right.
- 21:00Yeah, Picasso.
- 21:00Yep.
- 21:01It's he's going to get fucking torn up bad.
- 21:05Yeah, that's some bad.
- 21:07Like whoever the matchmakers are for that should feel shameful.
- 21:10Right.
- 21:11Yeah.
- 21:11Sending someone to slaughter is what it is.
- 21:13That is exactly what it is.
- 21:15They are sending this kid to fucking slaughter.
- 21:18This guy's going to die.
- 21:19His liver will never be the same.
- 21:24Yep.
- 21:25Sorry, Alan.
- 21:26Your name is fun.
- 21:27And this fight might have been a masterpiece, but it is not.
- 21:33Don't please don't take this to think that you rate being in the same ring as in a way.
- 21:40Geez.
- 21:41What are we doing?
- 21:43What are we doing to these kids?
- 21:44Sam Goodman included.
- 21:46But hey, what are we doing?
- 21:49What's that payday, man?
- 21:50I guess.
- 21:52Feeding.
- 21:53That's why you describe it.
- 21:55Feeding.
- 21:57You're eating a lot.
- 21:59Kudratillo Kudratillo, because he's from Uzbekistan.
- 22:03Abdukakarov.
- 22:05UD loss to who?
- 22:08Question mark.
- 22:09Yes, Jorge Perez.
- 22:13Abdukakarov is done.
- 22:14Pack it up, boys.
- 22:15Go home, because that was garbage.
- 22:19Absolute garbage.
- 22:21I feel like a principal skinner with a pathetic head shake.
- 22:27I felt secondhand embarrassment watching that happen.
- 22:31I'm not.
- 22:32I'm not.
- 22:33I missed this one.
- 22:34I was on the train.
- 22:35Uzbekistan.
- 22:36The Punisher.
- 22:37Whatever.
- 22:38I don't know what else to say about it.
- 22:40This is it for him.
- 22:41He's he lost.
- 22:42That's right.
- 22:45He lost the overtime, the semifinal.
- 22:48Fucking loser.
- 22:55That's so mean.
- 22:57I don't know.
- 22:58It's just like the way that he was being such like a fucking pansy in the ring about everything,
- 23:05complaining about everything, throwing like cheap shots like behind the head and other
- 23:11just like why your little asshole.
- 23:14Just stop fighting, please.
- 23:16Not all Uzbeks can join the winning train.
- 23:19They're having a little bit of a surgency at the moment, but not all of them are aboard
- 23:23the winning train.
- 23:24I would also like to put a caveat there.
- 23:27Hashtag not all Uzbeks.
- 23:29Not all Uzbeks.
- 23:30Yeah, not all Uzbeks.
- 23:31It's true.
- 23:32It's true.
- 23:33Like Madrimov, solid Akhmedov.
- 23:35He's good.
- 23:36There's a ton of there's a ton of Uzbeks.
- 23:39They won like a ton of gold medals, right?
- 23:41Fuck yeah.
- 23:42They've been coming out of the like I swear they swept a lot of the upper like upper weight
- 23:46divisions.
- 23:47I mean, I don't know, man.
- 23:49That's that's a country we're going to be watching in the next decade.
- 23:52I mean, a lot of a lot of their fighters come to the pros since about I think the 2016 Olympics
- 23:58is when they had their most they had a lot of success there and they've been coming into
- 24:04the pro ranks since then and they've been tearing it up like fast.
- 24:10Yeah, definitely a country to watch.
- 24:13And last, I don't know what the song is to play.
- 24:19What's a good what's what's a really sad one?
- 24:22Do you know that that meme voice thing and it's like, that's my boy.
- 24:28Oh, my boy.
- 24:31That's what.
- 24:32Yeah, we're going to whip out the funeral.
- 24:35I have to whip out like the funeral trumpets for this one.
- 24:38Like, yeah, we have to whip it out because, man, this was this was wow.
- 24:45I'm not gonna lie.
- 24:46Right.
- 24:47So, you know, Bruno Brunello, the nickname, Sir Ross stops Jaime Mugia in the sixth.
- 24:55It would look like I legit did not believe this.
- 24:59Like, I was on my way to Osaka and the guys tagged me on Discord and they're like, did
- 25:06you see Mungia got knocked out?
- 25:08And I was like, you're fucking with me.
- 25:10There's no way this is true.
- 25:12It took a lot of people to convince me it actually happened.
- 25:16I could not believe Mungia got iced.
- 25:19Ridiculous.
- 25:20Yeah.
- 25:21Bruno comes into this, he was 25 and 0 with four knockouts, like four.
- 25:30Yes, four knockouts.
- 25:32Had only fought in France, right?
- 25:34He had never fought outside of France.
- 25:37He was only four knockouts against Frenchmen.
- 25:41Uh huh.
- 25:42Comes into this.
- 25:43I remember, Isaac, you were here for the preview and we're like, we were having a good laugh.
- 25:48Like, welcome to TJ, bitch.
- 25:51But absolutely not the case.
- 25:55Oh my goodness.
- 25:57Stops in the sixth.
- 25:59He gets, he was, looked like to me he was doing, he was winning pretty handily.
- 26:03Jaime Mugia was like, he was in control of the situation until he gets, I don't know if he got overconfident or he got lazy or he was tired or what.
- 26:14But he's let his, he's letting his hands drop and Bruno backs up into the ropes as he had been doing most of the rounds and Mugia throws a shot and he counters over the top of it.
- 26:28And that was it.
- 26:29He was like out, laid out, tries to get up and falls into the ropes, right?
- 26:37If he had, if the ropes weren't there, he would have fallen over again.
- 26:40And so he gets waved off.
- 26:42In the, in the immediate aftermath, he's sitting on the stool and they're, they have the camera on his face with like kick a guy while he's down, but he's, they're like, they're talking to him and he's responsive and everything so that's good.
- 26:56And he was just saying like, yeah, no, he just, he hit me with a really good shot.
- 27:01Like, no, I'm okay.
- 27:02He just, he, he hit me with a fucking hard punch.
- 27:08Two words have never been spoken, mate.
- 27:10Yeah, that boy got caught clean as hell.
- 27:14That, that, that gift of him eating the straight, right?
- 27:17Has been circulating like all over the internet.
- 27:20It is perfect.
- 27:22The way he got caught was outrageous. His head completely spun around.
- 27:27I mean, Mugia has a chin and all that, but like this is, it's, it's, it's, it's a reminder in boxing that you can, if you get caught in a certain way, you know, doesn't matter if you're known for your chin.
- 27:39If you try to roll, if you, if you try to play games, you're going to get laid out.
- 27:42You're going to get laid out bad.
- 27:44And it happened Mugia. And like you even saw it like, yes, he was dominating the fight and he had even knocked down Bruno.
- 27:52But he was like in the second, it was second round. I want to say, but it was early on.
- 27:55Round two.
- 27:56He was dominating, but he, I said this in the chat.
- 28:00Mugia started bullshitting too much.
- 28:02Yep.
- 28:03Started bullshitting way too much.
- 28:05And like, I mean, he just got caught and that's just one of those shots you can't eat.
- 28:11And he had been toying with it in the rounds prior to it.
- 28:15You know, he had gotten caught, I think, like on the temple one or two rounds before the actual knockout.
- 28:21And, you know, he escaped that time unscathed, but in the six, he rolled the dice and it did not go well for him.
- 28:28He got laid out bad.
- 28:30Yeah. I mean, he, he got stopped. This is an embarrassing loss.
- 28:33Very embarrassing. This is an embarrassing, very embarrassing loss.
- 28:36This is like one of those cataclysmic for your career, I want to say.
- 28:39Because he just got, I mean, not just, but like very recently fought Canelo.
- 28:44And then you're going to lose to Bruno or Siras, whatever this French dude is called, number 51.
- 28:51And it leads to a Frenchman in your hometown.
- 28:54Come on, bro. In front of Julio Cesar Chavez Senior?
- 28:58Come on, man.
- 29:00This is an L. And I was saying this is an L, not just for him, but for Mexico, man.
- 29:06This is outrageous. Like, I don't know when the last time this has happened, but you don't see this.
- 29:11A Frenchman doesn't beat a Mexican woman. You don't see this.
- 29:15This is crazy. I was saddened. I mean, I can't justify this. I mean, there's no good explanation.
- 29:25He just lost. He just lost and lost badly.
- 29:28I mean, I don't know. You take it from here, though. I was saddened by this. It was a lot to take in.
- 29:35The bullshitting part is exactly right, because he had been working.
- 29:40He had been like bull rushing Bruno.
- 29:43At the opening of everyone, he would drive him into the ropes and he'd unload to the body and open up shots to the head and everything.
- 29:51But he kept doing it. He kept doing the same thing.
- 29:54And Bruno, like, I wish that they had a fucking French translator, because I would love to hear what the coroner was telling him.
- 30:02Because clearly they made the adjustments.
- 30:05Eric Morales and Freddie Roach, were they bickering over what to do?
- 30:09Because there was a lot of questions immediately.
- 30:12Like, who the fuck was coaching him and why were they not directing him properly?
- 30:17Because this is... how do you fucking explain this?
- 30:22You got knocked the fuck out by a like a neighborhood good nobody. Jesus.
- 30:28Yeah, with no knockouts. That's the other thing.
- 30:31The guy has apparently no power and you let him knock you out in your hometown.
- 30:38Yeah, this was this was like set up for Munguia to win.
- 30:42Like everything aligned with I'm going to say it was supposed to be can crushing.
- 30:48It was a soft touch. Yeah, like, you know, it's his hometown.
- 30:52Munguia, you know, just signed the top rank.
- 30:54They were going to, you know, oh, his first showing.
- 30:57You know, he's going to do well.
- 30:58They lined him up with someone or someone ranked number 51.
- 31:01No knockouts. French. I mean, come on.
- 31:04Like, how much more can they stack it in your favor?
- 31:06There's historical storyline too.
- 31:08The French really, really... sorry.
- 31:10Exactly. The French really, really makes it worse.
- 31:13Yes, yes. It does.
- 31:15Yes, I can't really explain. I mean, like Leo just said,
- 31:18historically, there's precedent between Mexico and France.
- 31:22So it makes it way worse. I'm not going to lie.
- 31:25Munguia, he has to rematch this dude. I don't need beat him. Knock him out.
- 31:31I sort of want that in France. Yeah, go to Marseille.
- 31:34Fight in Marseille. Yeah.
- 31:37I feel like you have to find some type of redemption here.
- 31:40Like that is some type of reputation.
- 31:43Yeah, like this can't slide. You can't let this slide.
- 31:46Like the first three rounds of some nobody fight.
- 31:49And then he rematched him and beat the shit out of him.
- 31:52Yeah. I make this in Munguia.
- 31:55I mean, first of all, they have to do this rematch.
- 31:57You can't just ignore this. But he already called up the rematch clause.
- 32:02Like that's done. Good. Yeah.
- 32:04Yeah. I'm glad he did it, you know, same week almost.
- 32:07But he not only has to beat this dude, it has to be a demolition.
- 32:12The demolition. Yeah. Or he's cooked.
- 32:15Like if he goes to like a decision against Bruno,
- 32:18might as well hang up the gloves because, you know, it's raps for you.
- 32:21He needs an in a way donair too. Yeah.
- 32:24Yes. A steamroll. It has to be a steamroll.
- 32:26Silence the critics. Like that was a fucking fluke.
- 32:29He caught me. He caught me. Yeah. But he got fucking lucky.
- 32:33That was like, I'm not going to say lucky, but he caught lightning in a bottle.
- 32:38And that shit ain't going to happen again.
- 32:40Or that it did not happen again. And I corrected it the second time.
- 32:44I hope you all were right. That's what it down.
- 32:47Yeah. That's what people have to leave the rematch within their mind.
- 32:51They're like, oh, I guess he just got caught then. That's what it really was.
- 32:54Just kind of just got, you know, got tagged. It'll be too careless. Yeah.
- 32:58It happens. Hometown jitters, really big stage.
- 33:02Like you're fucking home your childhood favorites, right?
- 33:05Ringside watching you. I would probably shit my pants as well. Yeah.
- 33:09I mean, you don't get paid millions of dollars. I don't.
- 33:12To do something. I don't.
- 33:14The reaction is some of the fans like in this, in the crowd in Tijuana.
- 33:19It was hilarious because like in round six, you saw like right before the knockout,
- 33:23some people were on their phones, not even looking at the fight.
- 33:25They're like, you know, Mingi, Mingi has, you know, got this in the bag.
- 33:27He's going to win. Not even paying attention.
- 33:29And when Mingi falls, those people put their hands on their head like they can't believe what they just saw.
- 33:34Oh, man. I even, what made this hilarious for me as well
- 33:38is that I was watching the UFC simultaneously and I had the Mingi feed muted.
- 33:45So I was hearing like the UFC audio, but I was also watching the Mingi fight.
- 33:49I didn't hear anything, but I just looked over and saw Mingi like on the ground, like struggling to get up.
- 33:55I'm like, what just happened? Yeah. And then like, and then they showed the replay and he just got cooked.
- 34:01He got cooked. I mean, our chat was exploding, man, whenever, whenever that happened.
- 34:05No one could be, we were watching it and no one could believe what we were seeing.
- 34:09I really thought the guys were just fucking with me because they knew I couldn't watch that I was on a train somewhere.
- 34:15Man, I was hands on the head in disbelief.
- 34:19The what's the like the meme gif of like the basketball coach who's just staring in disbelief, just blinking.
- 34:28Like what the fuck just happened? Sweat pouring down his face.
- 34:32Yeah, that's that's kind of without the sweat, though, like that's that was me hands on the head.
- 34:37Like what the what? You're kidding me. Yeah, this is this isn't happening.
- 34:42This is I'm I'm asleep. This is not happening.
- 34:46Massive, though, massive.
- 34:50One thing I do want to give Bruno his flowers because that was a solid, solid win.
- 34:58Assuming the rematch is next, depending on how that goes, like if Bruno gets stopped in the rematch, do they do it a third time or do they move on from it?
- 35:08I don't think Bruno will get the luxury of a trilogy if he loses a rematch.
- 35:14He won't get a rematch clause. No, maybe.
- 35:16Maybe I'm underestimating, but I don't think monkey is going to sign a fight with a rematch clause.
- 35:23It's like one of those like Cambos is esc wins, though, like he has sort of made his career off this win now.
- 35:31Oh, 100 percent. Nobody knew who the hell this man was.
- 35:34And he is going to get fight after this.
- 35:37And it's purely because because of the fact he has a win over Munguia and knockout win.
- 35:41Yeah, he can catch this and set him up.
- 35:44I would also I want to point out one other thing that I forgot to mention before is Bruno campaigns at middleweight, not super middleweight.
- 35:53They pulled them up even. I didn't know that.
- 35:56They pulled up a pillow hand and got knocked out for it.
- 36:00I guess that is something.
- 36:03That's wild, man.
- 36:04I love when cherry picks go wrong, but I like Munguia, so I'm very torn about this because it's objectively hilarious.
- 36:14But yeah, I mean, I like Munguia and everything, too.
- 36:17You know, I've even said in the past, Munguia is going to be like, you know, not quite to the same level as Canelo, like not actually not anywhere near it.
- 36:23But like he's going to be another guy that Mexicans start backing after this, man.
- 36:27I don't know. Yeah, I don't know.
- 36:29I think it's feeling is sort of evident here because like, you know, I feel like Canelo could be 45.
- 36:34He's not losing to Bruno. He's not losing to Bruno.
- 36:36It's just sort of this lets us know like a little bit more of Munguia's like relative level.
- 36:42I mean, he got caught, but it shouldn't have happened.
- 36:45Well, and you mentioned Canelo.
- 36:47What does this do to Canelo's legacy?
- 36:50Because like his wins have not been looking good lately.
- 36:54They have not. They all have aged poorly.
- 36:57Yeah, I'm an avid Canelo supporter, but this this ain't looking good, Chief.
- 37:00This is not good. We need we need some serious wins.
- 37:04As soon as as soon as Munguia got knocked out within like five, ten minutes, I was like, we need that.
- 37:19If you want to hear that fun little bit of banter, you're going to have to go to Patreon.com slash LVX Media Net.
- 37:25Get yourself signed up over there.
- 37:26It's like who's the best fighter on the planet? Who would you want to represent us?
- 37:30Sure ain't going to be Munguia.
- 37:32No.
- 37:33Does Bruno stay at 168?
- 37:35I think he should go back to 160 and try to use his fame here and get some get some title shots or something out of it.
- 37:42I mean, if he beats Munguia twice.
- 37:45Oof.
- 37:46Oh, hell no. Munguia loses citizenship.
- 37:49He does this.
- 37:51Man.
- 37:51Hell no.
- 37:53That's it for this one, unless you have anything more.
- 37:57No, I think we should add Munguia enough.
- 37:59Yeah.
- 38:00To try to what I how I've been coping with this is my favorite book of all time, The Count of Monte Cristo.
- 38:10It's based in Marseille.
- 38:12So that's how I've been coping.
- 38:15Bruno is like a I don't know centuries old port city hooligan.
- 38:23And that's why he's that's why he's tough.
- 38:25All right. That's yeah.
- 38:27That's enough Munguia bashing.
- 38:30Moving on. Sunday, December 15th.
- 38:33First things before we get to the the card in Osaka.
- 38:38Quickly, Mike Perrette, this was the platform sports Europa, Europa Point Sports Complex in Gibraltar, where Dillion White fought Ebenezer Tete.
- 38:52What how fitting Ebenezer on on the Christmas episode.
- 38:58Ebenezer Scrooge.
- 39:00It was stopped at the end of six going into seven.
- 39:05Tete did just didn't want to come out.
- 39:08He had been like he was he looked pretty poor.
- 39:13Dillion White was just just good enough to beat him like every round.
- 39:19Yeah. Dillion White did not look good, though.
- 39:21He did not.
- 39:22He looked fat and out of shape.
- 39:25Yeah, definitely.
- 39:27It was a funny fight just from like the I mean, the whole the whole thing was just funny.
- 39:33Yes, it's like one of those events.
- 39:35It's so bad that it's good type type of thing.
- 39:40That's coming walking out in a polo.
- 39:43I mean, Dillion Dillion White like crab walk into the ring.
- 39:48I mean, I don't know.
- 39:49The whole thing just had like like an aura to it was just hilarious to watch.
- 39:53White White almost like or White knocking himself down because he threw a hook too strong.
- 39:59This fight was just hilarious, man.
- 40:03I did check out some of Ebenezer's other fights and like, yeah, four in the morning outside.
- 40:11Yeah, outside the ring is it's not even like what's the usual like six, 18 or 20 by 20.
- 40:18This was like 10 feet by 10 feet that in a fucking park like a public park.
- 40:24Yeah, it was it looked the ring looked like it was being held together by hopes and dreams.
- 40:30That's how fucking destitute the situation was.
- 40:33Like, I know that, you know, life in different African nations can be really rough.
- 40:38But yeah, that was I don't think Ghana is that rough considered in Africa and Accra of all places.
- 40:49Some of some of the people are talking about this prior and we were talking about how we had exchanged clips of some African boxing events.
- 40:59One in particular, they had like wood floor boxing rings.
- 41:03People like boxing over hardwood.
- 41:06Yeah, there's like videos on YouTube that we had found like genuine boxing, like sanctioned boxing events where they were fighting over hardwood.
- 41:16But like Tetsa, this was this is not like yeah, this was a little bit below.
- 41:24I want to say can crush or at least intended to be Ebenezer.
- 41:27Tetsa was not like some elite opponent.
- 41:29Dillian White was meant to crush him.
- 41:31And I mean, he did. He did.
- 41:33But not very convincingly.
- 41:36Yeah, I mean, I got to say White was hitting Tetsa with some shots.
- 41:41This dude just his chin is sort of crazy because he got hit clean a good amount of times.
- 41:47He had like a thick neck absorbing all that impact.
- 41:49But we all agree that Dillian White is not elite anymore, right?
- 41:54Like, well, but people talked about him.
- 41:59That's right. Talking about Dillian White like a Deontay Wilder can't beat Dillian White, then he shouldn't be fighting AJ.
- 42:08Yeah, like there was a time where he was talked about in those like top five people and just disappeared.
- 42:16I don't know. Dillian White is one of those ones.
- 42:19I don't understand why his career tanked so badly.
- 42:23The AJ and White fight is just iconic though.
- 42:27How funny it was.
- 42:29The conversation surrounding White was always hilarious though, because he I mean,
- 42:35I think one of the biggest things after the AJ fight was him versus Wilder.
- 42:39I feel like that fight would have gone terribly for White.
- 42:41Yeah. Oh, 100 percent. Absolutely.
- 42:44I think he would have gotten laid out and Wilder might have even looked, you know, genuinely good, not just a power puncher type performance.
- 42:52But yeah, White is really I hate to say this because I'm sure I don't know, you know, how White is in person.
- 42:58But White has sort of been there historically, at least supported by data, just to get knocked out by elite fighters.
- 43:04Just in general. I sort of got flamed.
- 43:07So elite fighters.
- 43:09I got flamed for saying that was great KO by Pavekkin.
- 43:14The ring or the little ring piece that he fell on whenever he landed.
- 43:18I was I got flamed for saying that White would win against Chisora.
- 43:24He I don't think it would be easy.
- 43:26I don't think it would be easy for White.
- 43:28I got flamed for saying this in the chat.
- 43:31You're told Chisora is terrible, Chisora is washed, but White is too.
- 43:36I don't know. I feel like at this age and with how White has been recently, I feel like he would struggle against Chisora.
- 43:43And I say that they fought before.
- 43:46I say that with Chess. Yeah.
- 43:48I feel like if they did that now this year, 2025 calendar year.
- 43:52Yeah, they did. Chisora.
- 43:54I don't know. Chisora has got more of a gas tank than White.
- 43:57Chisora might just outwork White.
- 44:00It's called petrol tank.
- 44:03Sorry. Sorry.
- 44:06Oh, man.
- 44:07The way Chisora was hilarious about like Chisora has more experience being washed than like other fighters.
- 44:16And that was just such a perfect description. Such a perfect description for Chisora.
- 44:22That's the rationale.
- 44:26Yeah, he has more experience being washed.
- 44:30And it's, I never thought of it, but when someone said that, I was like, oh, this makes perfect sense.
- 44:35That does make sense.
- 44:37Yeah.
- 44:41Oh, man.
- 44:45That was a lot more time than I had planned for Dillion White.
- 44:50But there you have it.
- 44:52So maybe we'll breeze over this one more quickly. Andrew Maloney is back, baby.
- 44:57KO3 over Jock Crowe.
- 45:00Ty, dude. Yeah.
- 45:02KO3. I cannot find any clips of this, not even like highlights.
- 45:09I didn't even know this happened.
- 45:11Yeah, it was tough to find the details for this.
- 45:17But there you have it. Andrew Maloney is back.
- 45:19Still competing at 115. I expect he's going to try to get himself back into the title picture, given that we're about to talk about it in a moment.
- 45:31Super Flyway is pretty hot right now for like the lower weights.
- 45:34So moving on to Osaka at the Sumiyoshi Sports Center.
- 45:41Shannara, you were there. Take us through this.
- 45:43Yeah, it's a fucking gymnasium, which is hilarious to me. And I had a slight fuck up.
- 45:50I thought I was buying stand tickets. I bought floor tickets, but it was great. Got there early.
- 45:56There was no concession stand. It was like small town hockey rink, buckets of ice with cans of beer in it.
- 46:03Loved it. On a Sunday.
- 46:05That was a pretty nice Sunday.
- 46:07Yeah, that was a good Sunday. I had to wake up at 5 a.m. to catch the first train back to Tokyo and then to Chiba to make it to work.
- 46:14So my boss didn't know that I went to Osaka.
- 46:16But yeah, no, it was a good weekend. The fights were exciting, but the Japanese fights are always exciting.
- 46:22There's not that many people that I think anyone would have heard of.
- 46:27Yeah, I don't know who any of these people are except for Nishida.
- 46:31Yeah. So the co-main was a Filipino guy, Kenneth Lover versus I think the guy was...
- 46:39Tulio De Canarudo.
- 46:41Yeah, I guess he's Japanese. Not a very Japanese name.
- 46:46Anyways, Kenneth Lover really impressed me. I had never heard of him.
- 46:51And he came out and fucking steamrolled this guy. Like, as soon as he started moving in the ring,
- 46:57you could tell he was too good to be fighting people at this level.
- 47:02Yeah. Yeah, I think I sent a clip in Discord. I don't know if you saw it, but I really think...
- 47:08I think people should look up who Kenneth Lover is. He's very new.
- 47:13Or well, not very new, I guess. He's got 12 fights. But I think people should look this kid up.
- 47:20I think he might be good.
- 47:22I'm gonna put him on my prospect list for the year after seeing him once.
- 47:28So it was a really fast knockout. I think it was like 45 seconds.
- 47:32Woof.
- 47:33Yeah. And then the main event was also really good. Worth a watch.
- 47:38Yeah, if I could find it. You next is impossible to get onto if you're not Japanese.
- 47:45Yeah. Oh, I was thinking about that, Leo, and we can talk later.
- 47:49But I think in the first thing, you don't use Katakana. You use Hiragana for foreign names.
- 47:57And then the second line will be Katakana.
- 48:02Yeah, that's... Yep, of course. How did I not...
- 48:06Yeah. No. And I might be wrong. They might just not take foreign names. I don't know.
- 48:13Anyways, Nishida got the KO by beautiful fucking liver shot.
- 48:19Just tore his liver out in the seventh round.
- 48:23All right. It was hard as hell to find highlights for this fight.
- 48:26You had to go on like Twitter, like random, some random page.
- 48:29Like phone, up with those phones, uploading. Yeah.
- 48:33Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
- 48:36It was real good. Yeah. So I don't think Muto is a very big promotion.
- 48:42No, that's the name of the gym.
- 48:44I don't think Osaka is set up for world title fights at all.
- 48:51I don't think Nishida was supposed to get this belt, and he had contracts in place with a couple places for at least one more fight.
- 49:01And that's why this Sunday defense happened.
- 49:04Osaka was fun, though. I will say there were almost no men in suits.
- 49:10It was people who actually like boxing and they were quite a bit louder.
- 49:15Excellent. One of the corners was high, and they quite often make kind of a very specific noise when their fighter lands a punch.
- 49:27Yeah, I know. I heard it. I've heard it.
- 49:30You hear it. Yeah, I hear it. Yeah.
- 49:33Yeah. So this is the first time I've heard Japanese people being assholes in a crowd.
- 49:41There was one guy that would make a goat noise afterwards every time.
- 49:47Yeah, I guess they thought it sounded like a sheep or something.
- 49:52First time I have seen like that kind of disrespectful in Japan.
- 49:58But overall, crowd was really good. At one point in between fights, some guy stood up and gave like a 30 to 40 second speech, just screamed it in the gymnasium up in the stands.
- 50:11Not anybody like important.
- 50:14And the announcers and everyone waited for him to finish before they announced the next ring walk.
- 50:19So that was something. What?
- 50:22I have no idea what he was yelling, but the entire crowd went silent, waited for him to finish his speech. It was clearly something he had memorized.
- 50:31I didn't really recognize any of the words.
- 50:34There was like a little bit of a golf clap afterwards and then the announcer announced the next walk out.
- 50:41They had a t-shirt cannon and the ring girls changed clothes twice throughout the night. Big production values.
- 50:51And clothes. Yeah.
- 50:53Outfit changes.
- 50:55Yeah.
- 50:56They started out in these blue dresses that were very sporty, I think is how I would describe them.
- 51:03And then they changed into red with like sparkly silver.
- 51:08There was another one in between, but the red was for the main event.
- 51:12They really classed up the ring girls for the main event.
- 51:17So yeah, Osaka was an experience and I'm glad I went.
- 51:21I did not like being on the floor, though.
- 51:23I'm sure fights are not very fun.
- 51:25I think I might have fucked up and bought floor tickets for the Yoko fight as well because I can't read.
- 51:31Right. So I was just buying.
- 51:37Yeah, but I'm just buying the third cheapest tickets.
- 51:42And I think in these small gymnasium fights, that's the floor.
- 51:46There's only two prices of stand tickets instead of four like there is in the stadiums.
- 51:53Might have fucked up. Might be on the floor for New Year's Eve.
- 51:56We'll see.
- 51:57Let some details for Kenneth Lover versus Tulio De Canarudo.
- 52:05Ruto. Sorry. Sorry, buddy.
- 52:07That was for the interim OPBF bantamweight title.
- 52:13In that organization has its own rankings that are separate from the WBC, the parent org.
- 52:21So Kenneth Lover is the number one contender to Keita Kurihara.
- 52:29So who knows when they'll reconcile that.
- 52:33But yeah, this is the type of belt that you get when you're on your way up.
- 52:37Yeah, I think the the Oriental Pacific belts are pretty well respected.
- 52:42Yeah. That's a big milestone in the careers.
- 52:45It is from what I can tell.
- 52:48Like the Japanese boxing commission title and then OPBF and Ryusuke Nishida, KO7, IBF bantamweight title.
- 53:01Well, hopefully we get to.
- 53:03Yeah, I don't know who they line up for him next.
- 53:09I would like to see a unification at this weight.
- 53:12All the titles are Japanese right now.
- 53:15I feel like they should be able to start unifying some of them.
- 53:20For Nishida, all the other people are Japanese.
- 53:26IBF still has Takuma listed for the WBA slot.
- 53:31X. Assholes.
- 53:33Nishida versus Tsutsumi would be a fun fight, I think.
- 53:37How does Nishida fight?
- 53:40How does he carry himself?
- 53:43He's very Japanese style.
- 53:47OK, that makes sense.
- 53:48More of a boxer, like a Japanese boxer rather than a Japanese brawler.
- 53:54I don't know how else because the boxers still brawl a lot.
- 54:00But more outside brawling than inside brawling.
- 54:03Nakatani?
- 54:05Not that much boxing. Maybe Takuma.
- 54:08OK, got it.
- 54:10Yoshiki Takei?
- 54:12Yeah, kind of that style.
- 54:15He does fight southpaw, which is a little unusual in Japan, I think.
- 54:22And even southpaw, he still has a really good left hook, which I also feel is a bit of a rarity.
- 54:30Usually you hook with your lead hand.
- 54:33So it's kind of a unique style, but very Japanese at the same time.
- 54:38I think he's exciting.
- 54:40I've only seen a couple fights because I didn't know who the hell he was before he got the belt either.
- 54:44Yeah, he wasn't supposed to win.
- 54:47No, he was not supposed to win.
- 54:50And like you said, it's impossible to find clips of him because he's only ever been in these small promotion fights.
- 55:02Even searching his name in Japanese and getting my coworkers to help me look, there's very little online about him, which is why I paid money to go to Osaka.
- 55:14I would say that Nishida was to Emanuel Rodriguez as Bruno Seras was to Jaime Munguia, except there's a title on the line.
- 55:27Yeah, I mean, Nishida has more knockouts, I think.
- 55:31Oh, no, he has two.
- 55:34He has less.
- 55:35So I am wrong.
- 55:37He has less knockouts.
- 55:40Anything more for this Muto card?
- 55:43No, it was a fun experience.
- 55:46But yeah, Osaka is not set up for big fights.
- 55:49I can see why everything happens in Tokyo.
- 55:52All right.
- 55:53Last thing on the recaps before we get into the one card for preview on Tuesday, December 17th.
- 56:00Boxing Insider at the Sony Hall in New York.
- 56:04Boxing Insider promotions.
- 56:06You can't, my guy Kurt Scooby.
- 56:08His name is Scooby.
- 56:09How and why would you not have him fight on your card?
- 56:13That is the dumbest shit ever.
- 56:15Kurt Scooby.
- 56:16Scooby is his fucking name.
- 56:18That's all.
- 56:19That's all I got for that one.
- 56:20Tuesday, December 31st.
- 56:23I found this as lifetime promotions.
- 56:27I don't know if that's what it actually is, but at the Otashi Gym in Tokyo, Fernando Martinez will be rematching Kazuto Ioka.
- 56:37What? IBF and WBA titles?
- 56:40It's definitely two titles.
- 56:42I'm not sure which two.
- 56:43I'm pretty sure.
- 56:44I think so.
- 56:45Yeah.
- 56:46Right.
- 56:47Bunch of shit that I don't know leading all the way up.
- 56:52I don't really know.
- 56:54Let me have a quick look here.
- 56:57Yeah, I don't recognize any of the names.
- 56:59I think Renee Alvarado.
- 57:01I don't know.
- 57:02So I got a look at his face.
- 57:05I do not recognize that face.
- 57:07He is not a handsome man.
- 57:10Is he worse than Ray Vargas?
- 57:14Similar.
- 57:15Yeah.
- 57:16His ears are smaller, but his lips are weirdly fish like.
- 57:21Oh, I've seen this Sato.
- 57:23I think Sato is a pretty common last name here.
- 57:26But Tsuyoshi.
- 57:29Yeah, I saw him at Korokuen Hall in one of the undercards.
- 57:34I think.
- 57:35Yeah, I got tickets for this one because I was at the first fight and it was a banger.
- 57:40And New Year's Eve combat sports in Japan is a very big thing.
- 57:47So yeah, they make it.
- 57:49This is like a they do two dates that are really awesome for boxing specifically.
- 57:56December 26th, Boxing Day.
- 57:58Ha ha ha ha ha.
- 57:59Get it.
- 58:00And then December 31st.
- 58:01Sometimes they have stuff on the 30th as well.
- 58:05I have seen that.
- 58:06But I think from the 26th to the 31st is like a combat sports fucking festival.
- 58:11They do every.
- 58:12Yeah, there's like wrestling.
- 58:14One has a big card.
- 58:15Ryzen has a big card.
- 58:18Pro wrestling cards to what card was Garcia supposed to fight on?
- 58:23I think the 26th rising card.
- 58:26Yeah, yeah.
- 58:28Not anymore.
- 58:29Yeah, yeah, that got canceled.
- 58:31Well, and obviously the in a way fight was supposed to be on Christmas Eve.
- 58:36But that's on Christmas Eve.
- 58:39That's the gift that Goodman would be unwrapping is piecing apart.
- 58:47Oh, yeah. In a way in the ring to become undisputed champion.
- 58:50And we got lucky.
- 58:52But save.
- 58:57Yeah, but this this lifetime card, I don't really recognize anyone except Eoka.
- 59:03But I am a big Eoka fan and the first fight was fireworks.
- 59:09So hopefully we get New Year's Eve fireworks this time would be nice.
- 59:13I am hoping for Eoka as well.
- 59:18Underdog.
- 59:19So it's fun.
- 59:20And plus Martinez from Argentina.
- 59:22So there's that.
- 59:24Yeah, that's yeah, that's all we got for until the end of the year.
- 59:29It's fucking pretty light.
- 59:31But I mean, everybody's kind of busy and most of the big things got canceled.
- 59:36That's true.
- 59:37A lot of good things got canceled.
- 59:39We could have had Tank versus Roach.
- 59:43I heard that got canceled and Campbell Hatton was going to step in.
- 59:46Yeah. Yeah.
- 59:48I would have been honestly the people's main event.
- 59:51People's fight of the year.
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- 1:01:03Is Daigo Higa at 118?
- 1:01:06Uh, I thought he was one below that.
- 1:01:09No, he's at 118. He lost to Takei for the WBO title.
- 1:01:13That's right. They did my man Higa dirty.
- 1:01:16My fellow Ura-Soe bro.
- 1:01:19Ura-Soe? Is that? Does that work?
- 1:01:23I guess.
- 1:01:24Yeah, the little part of the little town of Okinawa that he's from,
- 1:01:29that's where I was stationed, the same spot.
- 1:01:32So we're basically best friends.
- 1:01:34And then there was the guy on the UFC Macau.
- 1:01:39His hometown was the city in Korea I was stationed in.
- 1:01:44So we are also best friends.
- 1:01:46Which city is that, that you were in Korea?
- 1:01:48Pohang. Spelled Po-hang.
- 1:01:51Ah, yes. I knew that.
- 1:01:53Anyways, I miss Norwegians.
- 1:02:00Let me tie the bow on here.
- 1:02:04Oh, wait, shouldn't we be untying the bow?
- 1:02:07Because it's a present.
- 1:02:09Yeah, I'm really good at this.
- 1:02:11Fucking happy Christmas, you fucks.
- 1:02:17Check out all the socials, interactions with the posts really help.
- 1:02:22Fucking, even if you just press share and don't actually send it to anyone, still helps.
- 1:02:27Yeah, but if you have any comments on the fights,
- 1:02:31like you got my number bitch, if you think I'm stupid, then tell me.
- 1:02:35Call me and tell me. I want to hear about it.
- 1:02:37I want to hear about how dumb I am to you.
- 1:02:40Alright, let's fucking boogie. Boxing V-sides.
- 1:02:43We'll see you on the other side of the new year with fucking picks.
- 1:02:47Best of the year awards.
- 1:02:49We'll see you then.
- 1:03:19Bye.