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Stellar Award-winning artist Pastor Mike Jr. talks building in Alabama, & closing The 2022 World Games · The Steve Harvey Morning Show

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  Speaker 1: off airman we've been laughing and talk about food. Pastor
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  Speaker 1: Mike McClure Jr. He's the senior pastor Rock City Church
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  Speaker 1: in Birmingham, Alabama. As an artist, Pastor Bike has garnered
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  Speaker 1: three Stellar Awards, most notably Artists of the Year. Don't
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  Speaker 1: sleep on that that Autists of the Year at Stellar Awards.
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  Speaker 1: His crossover single I was number one on Gospel radio
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  Speaker 1: and four weeks CONSECUTI twenty three weeks on R and
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  Speaker 1: B charts. Pastor Mike will be Closing Ceremony Performer. Closing
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  Speaker 1: Ceremony Performer along with other national acts for the World
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  Speaker 1: Games twenty two in Birmingham. Y'all. See how didn't know that?
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  Speaker 1: That's why I got on the show. I didn't even
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  Speaker 1: know that. The World Games is an international sports event
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  Speaker 1: held every four years in the same year following each
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  Speaker 1: Summer Olympic Games stage over eleven days. The game represents
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  Speaker 1: the pinnacle of competition for thirty or six hundred of
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  Speaker 1: the world's best athletes in thirty different unique sports. The
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  Speaker 1: World grads World Games generates worldwide exposure. But also we're
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  Speaker 1: here talking about the world are exposed to, Pastor Mack
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  Speaker 1: generate down there in Birmingham. See people, everybody try to
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  Speaker 1: push you your big city. Gotta go to l A,
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  Speaker 1: gott to go to New York, I gotta go to Chicago.
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  Speaker 1: Now everybody tends to go to Atlanta. He two hours
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  Speaker 1: down the road from Atlanta and turning it up. Come on,
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  Speaker 1: he's got not building his dream. And that's what this
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  Speaker 1: show is about. Building your dream. Please work with the
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  Speaker 1: money making conversation, Pastor Mike clud Junior, big bro. I
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  Speaker 1: am so excited to be here, and I know I
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  Speaker 1: love how you said that everybody always tries to push
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  Speaker 1: you to Atlanta to l A to Nashville. I'm a
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  Speaker 1: firm believer that you should bloom where your planet. And
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  Speaker 1: we're winning right here from Birmingham, Alabama. So I'm excited
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  Speaker 1: to be here and hopefully I get my pitch on
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  Speaker 1: that wall. Really see. First of all, we got a
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  Speaker 1: long interview because we gonna laugh about some stuff. Because
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  Speaker 1: I want to point some things out to some people
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  Speaker 1: about that. You know, if you don't have a talent
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  Speaker 1: or a gift, I don't care where you move, Nobody's
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  Speaker 1: gonna recognize it or appreciate that. I remember when I
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  Speaker 1: when I did stand up comment I'm based out of Houston, Texas.
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  Speaker 1: That's from born in raised, Houston, Texas. I moved to
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  Speaker 1: New York and then I moved to l A. I does,
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  Speaker 1: I was doing television everything. Then all this when I
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  Speaker 1: was in the l A pastor Mike, I decided, you
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  Speaker 1: know something, I'm gonna go back to Houston and I'm
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  Speaker 1: gonna become the biggest star I could be. And I
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  Speaker 1: did over the comment club just blew up and guess
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  Speaker 1: what I got, uh, I got cast and Jason's lyrics,
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  Speaker 1: So by moving back to Houston, what people said I
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  Speaker 1: would not become a star, I went there became a
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  Speaker 1: star and guess what, people moved came and got me.
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  Speaker 1: They got me for they saw my talent. So sometimes
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  Speaker 1: understanding what you're trying to do in life and that
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  Speaker 1: you know necessarily have to move to a chief success.
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  Speaker 1: But you have to have to have a plan. And
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  Speaker 1: that's what's why you're successful in Birmingham because you have
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  Speaker 1: a plan. Pastor Mike, let's talk about that absolutely, man.
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  Speaker 1: I believe planning is absolutely critical. You know, um, what's
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  Speaker 1: so incredible even when you look biblically, God says, uh,
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  Speaker 1: let there be light, and there was. Let there be
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  Speaker 1: flying things and there was. Before he put a steward
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  Speaker 1: in place, he had a plan. He says, I cannot
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  Speaker 1: put man in place if he has no assignment. And
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  Speaker 1: I'm with you, man. So many people were telling me, man,
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  Speaker 1: you need to go that lant, he need to go
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  Speaker 1: to l A. I had a plan. I had a strategy,
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  Speaker 1: and I believe first things you have to understand is
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  Speaker 1: what is your unique a sign? Because what this is
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  Speaker 1: what I discovered I don't want to go to church.
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  Speaker 1: But favor isn't always geographical. Just because you're special in Birmingham.
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  Speaker 1: If I go to Atlanta, there are a million pastor
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  Speaker 1: Mike Jullius. So you have to win where you are man.
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  Speaker 1: So I'm excited about that, and I really believe that
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  Speaker 1: the best is yet to come. When I was talking
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  Speaker 1: to my board, to Todd Delaney, I call him, I
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  Speaker 1: call him to church out law because I tell him
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  Speaker 1: this be himself, you know, because so many people try
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  Speaker 1: to give a definition of what the Bible is, what churches?
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  Speaker 1: Why are you supposed to go to church? Churches where
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  Speaker 1: your belief if your beliefs or one hundred, it's where
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  Speaker 1: you want, where you want to worship. Church plays an
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  Speaker 1: important role in that, but important and and and being
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  Speaker 1: that you have been your congregations have been huge past
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  Speaker 1: to mine and said and so. But you didn't just
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  Speaker 1: get there overnight. When did you realize what you would
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  Speaker 1: do on your sermon? Your message was starting to be
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  Speaker 1: related to buy not just a few, you for thousands.
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  Speaker 1: I think the first thing we have to understand is
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  Speaker 1: that when people are trying to be successful, the first
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  Speaker 1: thing you have to understand is the origin of success.
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  Speaker 1: Since I was a kid, people have been telling me
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  Speaker 1: there's something different about you. So for me, it was
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  Speaker 1: singing solos with my father. I had the largest youth
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  Speaker 1: ministry in the state of Alabama. You know. I was
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  Speaker 1: drawing seven, eight, nine hundred young people on a Monday
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  Speaker 1: night in my dad's church for youth church. You know.
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  Speaker 1: So when we started the church at twenty five, I
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  Speaker 1: held a spaghetti dinner downstairs in my dad's basement. I
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  Speaker 1: held I invited about fifty or sixty people down and
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  Speaker 1: I shared my vision. We raised about twelve thousand dollars
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  Speaker 1: that night. I paid my rent up for six months.
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  Speaker 1: I bought my sound equipment with the other half, and
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  Speaker 1: we said, let's see God. I knew we had something
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  Speaker 1: special when people just started coming out of nowhere. If
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  Speaker 1: I give you the fast forward version, because we don't
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  Speaker 1: have all day, I know that two thousand nine, I'm
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  Speaker 1: gonna say ten people show up, two thousand ten close
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  Speaker 1: to a thousand. Two thousand eleven is over six thousand
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  Speaker 1: people in about l to the point where the fire
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  Speaker 1: marshal is stopping letting It has to stop letting people in,
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  Speaker 1: and that's when they hit me. I said, man, we're
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  Speaker 1: doing something special. And I believe so many times, uh
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  Speaker 1: we miss on being who God called us to be
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  Speaker 1: because we've been on doing what we want to be.
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  Speaker 1: That's why I tell everybody church is absolutely vital, like
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  Speaker 1: you saying, man, it's absolutely vital fire development, but your
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  Speaker 1: relationship with God is more important. And sadly people limit
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  Speaker 1: their relationship with God on where they go physically. That
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  Speaker 1: I believe that if your relationship with God is tight,
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  Speaker 1: we learned during the pandemic, I can have church where
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  Speaker 1: everybody am absolutely and and and church has always been
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  Speaker 1: the forefront of to a lot of people for crisis.
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  Speaker 1: You know that, you know that, you know, like they
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  Speaker 1: always say, you know when you you can't find God
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  Speaker 1: when you're doing good, when we're doing bad, you find
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  Speaker 1: them all the time. That it's that classic car, Hallmark car,
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  Speaker 1: when you know when you're you're walking and doing the doing,
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  Speaker 1: the doing, the uh doing during the time you see
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  Speaker 1: two ft and four foot prints and then you see
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  Speaker 1: two for prints when you know when you when you're
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  Speaker 1: doing bad. And they said, when I'm doing bad, I
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  Speaker 1: don't see two prints. He said, I'm carrying you. I'm
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  Speaker 1: caring you through those hard times. And that's what really
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  Speaker 1: what you're doing with your life in Birmingham. You're carrying people.
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  Speaker 1: But the pandemic was a hard time for a lot
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  Speaker 1: of people. Just and guess what, it ain't over with right,
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  Speaker 1: it has been is germinated to a delta variant. Now,
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  Speaker 1: So how do you deal with your congregation because the
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  Speaker 1: you know, church doors were shuttered and you couldn't go
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  Speaker 1: in there. It was mandated nationally. How did you and
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  Speaker 1: how are you dealing with that whole safety of the
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  Speaker 1: congregation versus generating the Word of God to your same congregation. Well,
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  Speaker 1: we were the first church in the state of Alabama
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  Speaker 1: to close our doors before it was a mandate. Um
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  Speaker 1: the Wednesday before everything broke loose, the Holy Spirit let
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  Speaker 1: on my heart, Michael, get ahead of this thing. I
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  Speaker 1: shut my doors, and of course passes and churches begin
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  Speaker 1: to ridicule me because they said this boy don't have
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  Speaker 1: any faith. I believe there's a thing in linement between
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  Speaker 1: faith and foolishness, and sometimes foolishness puts on faith's close.
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  Speaker 1: If you're not careful, you will call something faith that's
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  Speaker 1: really foolish. And in my heart I felt the need
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  Speaker 1: to just kind of get ahead of it. So during
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  Speaker 1: this pandemic, I want to say this and I want
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  Speaker 1: to be as sensitive as possible and the words of
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  Speaker 1: that beautiful author. It was the best of times, but
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  Speaker 1: it was also the worst of times. We lost lives.
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  Speaker 1: Things were difficult. But in the midst of a pandemic, um,
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  Speaker 1: God bless me to have two number one songs big
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  Speaker 1: sent on the charts for four weeks, I won five
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  Speaker 1: Stello Awards. And a pandemic, we had over six thousand
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  Speaker 1: people give their life to Christ virtually during a pandemic.
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  Speaker 1: So during the pandemic, I thought it was a national,
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  Speaker 1: nationwide reset. It cast everybody to re examine what was important,
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  Speaker 1: who was important? Have I gotten better or have I
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  Speaker 1: gotten worse? So we are still virtual. Although so many
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  Speaker 1: people are saying, man, come back, open the doors. Open
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  Speaker 1: the doors asked for me because thousands of people come
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  Speaker 1: to our church. I just feel the need to be responsible,
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  Speaker 1: you know, and say, hey, although you guys want to
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  Speaker 1: come back, let's just be patient. Let's see what's happening
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  Speaker 1: with the delta variant and the moment I said a
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  Speaker 1: And so when when I look at what you're doing
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  Speaker 1: I believe. And since we're talking money making conversations, I trained.
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  Speaker 1: I have about dred people that I teach monthly on
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  Speaker 1: entrepreneur and creativity and what I'm trying to get them
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  Speaker 1: to realize sometimes as African Americans, so many times everything
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  Speaker 1: about what we do business wise and entrepreneurially is about
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  Speaker 1: paying the next bill, not setting ourself up for legacy.
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  Speaker 1: You know, I told my class the other day, I said, man,
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  Speaker 1: for free. And I guarantee the person across street gonna
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  Speaker 1: ask who did that. That's called free marketing. So for me,
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  Speaker 1: giving away free music was my opportunity to say, hey, guys,
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  Speaker 1: here's the chance to believe in me. And the response
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  Speaker 1: was crazy. Man. I believe people don't care how much
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  Speaker 1: you know until they know how much you care. And
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  Speaker 1: the pandemic exposed a lot. You know, I believe. I
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  Speaker 1: believe I was born in one year, I'll die in
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  Speaker 1: another year. It's the dash in the middle of that matters.
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  Speaker 1: And if I can give you a listen to something
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  Speaker 1: that special. Life isn't about duration, It's about donation. I'm
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  Speaker 1: It's not about how long you live, but how strong
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  Speaker 1: you live. You know, everybody has length, nobody has strength.
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  Speaker 1: So what the pandemic was, it's it broadened your perspective
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  Speaker 1: on your impact and your influence. You do amazing live shows,
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  Speaker 1: you know, and there would be some trepidation. I wanted
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  Speaker 1: if it would be the same way it translate virtually,
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  Speaker 1: and here we are now virtually. And what's crazy is
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  Speaker 1: you took a corner of the room, and if they
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  Speaker 1: the shot that they have on your If your team
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  Speaker 1: would go to the camera shot now where you're sitting
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  Speaker 1: there and they can see me behind you on the
• 16:28
  Speaker 1: screens you have four TVs, five TVs and the shot
• 16:32
  Speaker 1: you have some picture frames. You turned a corner into
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: a live set that can compete with every talk show
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: in America right there from your spot. That's being creative.
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: And I believe what we have to do is African Americans,
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: especially when resources oftentimes don't float down. There was Malcolm
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: X who said, when America catches a cold, black America
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: gets pneumonia. So a lot of times, when America gets creativity,
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: Black America is off in twenty years behind the spectrum.
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: And I believe what this pandemic has done for us,
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: it's given us the ability to be creative, because if
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  Speaker 1: we ain't nothing else as Black people were creative. Oh
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  Speaker 1: my god, you give us a little, you give us
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: the end of a pig, We're turning into chitlands. And
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: everything you give us scraps, we're turning into soul foods.
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: Because I believe in I in DNA, we are creative.
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  Speaker 1: So to me, man, I always say, I don't want
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  Speaker 1: to be insensitive because I want to be mindful that
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: people lost loved ones during the pandemic. I had to
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: do virtual funerals during a pandemic. So while yes, many
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: of us were winning, a lot of people were losing.
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: But I believe it's finding a way to um embrace
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  Speaker 1: the wholeness of what we all went through. Man, you
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: and I. Man, we're gonna do some live events together.
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: Because seriously passed somebody. I see, I see the Mercedes Beans.
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: I received that. Let's go all seventy thousand, seventy thousand
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: I received, Kim. I'm just being real about you know,
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: because I'm coming to Alabama September e level for my
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: HBCU College Day tour. You know from tennis six, you know,
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: I got the US Air Force, air Force Reserve, and
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: National Guard. I got the National Football League, I got
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: Coca Cola Bottles United, all of coming I got, I got,
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: I got fourteen h b c us. It's a career fair,
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: it's a job fair, and it's a college fair for
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: HBCUs all free. See. That's why I know we're going
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: to connect. And so so I'm like, I just got
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: to bring it up because of the fact I'm here
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: in your tone, and it's about giving back. It's about
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: you know, holding an opportunity for the next man or
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: the next woman. And that's what my college first, that's
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: what it's all about. In my city, we gave away
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: one point three million dollars worth of medical debt relief.
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: So I paid off one one point three million dollars
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: worth the medical bills for every person in our city
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: who was struggling with pass through medical bills. We've given
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: away over sixty dollars worth of free gas, bought multiple homes, cars, everything,
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: and everybody says, why are you doing this? I remember, see,
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: I made God a promise. If we was live, the
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: whole stadium will be going crazy now because I made
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: God a promise. Sitting on the curve in the hood
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: when I said we used to play a game called bingo.
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: You remember that car with Rod, But I said, Bengo,
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: that's my car. I made God a promise if you
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: ever gave me an opportunity, I would be a blessing.
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: And I believe from the depths of my soul. People
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  Speaker 1: don't care how much you know until they know how
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: much you care and for me. Giving back is what
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: we do and for and for you. You can see
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: it all over you this college, to a different things
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: you've been doing. They don't realize this, even writing, helping
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: with Steve Harvey and all the different things you've done.
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: That's giving of your intellectual property. That that that that's
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: what I call a residual blessing that I was sitting
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: at home laughing at a joke or laughing at a
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: show that I had no idea. You had your hand
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: and you heal people through somebody. So I'm ellen you, man,
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  Speaker 1: I believe, and I'm gonna stop talking when I say this.
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: I believe as black black Americans, I believe this, man,
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: our culture would go to another level if we embrace
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: collaboration versus competition, collaboration versus competition. I main this. I
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: could be Somebody hit me the other day that was like, man,
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: your music career is taken off. I struck a partnership
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: with this company called Black Smoke Carrie Douglas, and I said,
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: we're gonna be partners in this. And it was like, well, man,
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: be careful, don't give away too much. I looked him
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: in his eyes and said, brother, this is what we're
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: gonna do. Whatever I make, we're gonna make fifty off
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: of it. I said, this is why I can make
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: a hundred percent of ten dollars or of a hundred
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: thousand dollars, because collaboration is the new thing. Think about this.
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: When God made the world, he said I could do
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: the birds I can do the trees, I can do
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: the monkeys, I can do the water, I can do
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: the sea. But when it came to the one thing
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: that could generate revenue and produce, which was man, he said,
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: let us that's collaboration, big bro, and I believe money
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  Speaker 1: making conversations. Tip Number one from pastor Mike Jr. Is
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  Speaker 1: solidify your team. Yep, solidify your team. When it comes
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  Speaker 1: to my team, I need attendance. I need allegiance, I
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: need agregient. I need an attendance of agreement. I need allegiance,
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  Speaker 1: Children and Families and the Council. Absolutely and agree with
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  Speaker 1: you because you know poor things. Two things the point about,
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: like this whole set up. A lot of people question, Okay,
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: why are you gonna do it that way? Because sometimes
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: you have to look past people who want to understand
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: your vision and don't see the file results. That's okay,
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: But I had to have a team to create this
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: kind to bring them in what you think and trust them.
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: That makes sense. That makes sense. That makes sense because
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: just because you write the check don't mean that you
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: have to be there with making all the file of
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: decisions because sometimes somebody can see something different and make
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  Speaker 1: your check be better and your value a lie greater.
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: Then in October night, I was I was sitting in
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  Speaker 1: the world I would have because I got a lot
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: of talents, pastor Mike. And this is what runs into
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  Speaker 1: a lot of people. They go, man, your talent, what
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: you're gonna do? I told God this man, I said,
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  Speaker 1: God listening, if you allow me to utilize my talents,
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: and I will give you max effort, max effort and
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: all my talents. I said, I give you max effort.
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: I stopped. You know, I'm not a rapper, I'm not
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: an athlete. I stopped trying to play basketball. I stopped
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: trying to act like I could say, Okay, our writing, producing,
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Branding, marketing, That's what I
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: focused on. I stopped trying to act, and then I
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: walked away from stand up comedy. I said, you know something,
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: this ain't what I do. I focused on what I do.
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: And that's what a lot of people make a mistake on.
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: They get caught up in the dream, but not the results.
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: Is that dream of reality. And so in eighteen Naty,
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: I said, guard, you give me Mac, I'm gonna give
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: you max effort. And he said, look here, you give
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: me max effort. You can accomplish your dreams and that's
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: through hard work, as to relationships, and through accomplishing things
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: that you're not supposed to. And that's what you're doing
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: your life today. That's why I love your energy because
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: of the fact that we are different age groups, we're
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: living in different cities, but one thing we do share
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: in common, faith and hard work and relationships. Yeah, absolutely,
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: relationships to everything. And I want to free somebody right
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: now because you touched on something that I think we
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: have to kill, debunk and demystify in our culture. And
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: that's this uh, that's this punishment of being talented in
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: multiple areas with there's a there's a remnant of people.
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: I used to say a generation, but that limits us
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: to age group. I want to say a remnant. There's
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: a remnant or a tribe of people that are rising,
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: who are who have an ambidextrious anointing. They're blessed in
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: both hands. They can write and sing or produce and create,
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: you know. And there's a quote that we say that
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: we say wrong. It says to be a jack of
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: all trades is to be a master of none. That's
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: an incomplete statement, because the original quote is to be
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: a jack of all trades is to be a master
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: of none, but to be better than that which has won,
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: which means I may be able to do a lot
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: of stuff, and I may not master everything, but I'm
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: better at what I do than the people who think
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: they mastered it. And so for you, you said something
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: that was critical. And I was talking to somebody yesterday
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: and they was like, man, seeing you do all this
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: stuff has to be so mind blown. I said, I
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: want you to succeed. It's a guy who's close to me.
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: I said, I want you to succeed in music the
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: same way I'm succeeded. But at some point you gotta
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: stop and say, God got his hand on this. You
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. I'd like to to go. They
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: told me no other artists in the history of gospel
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: music has ever went from New Artists of the Year
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: their first year two Artists of the Year their second year.
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: You can't write that script. That's God. You know, there
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: is no um there. I tell everybody. When you look
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: at Joelos things with fifty thou people pre pandemic in
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: an arena. There is no fifty thousand in person sermon.
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: Or you look at Steve Harvey, there is no uh,
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: twenty thousand seat arena joke. Yes, at some point, God
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: just blesses it, you know. And I think what we
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: got to stop, as black people and not just people
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: in general, we tend to we tend to downplay the
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: writer and celebrate the speaker. Yes, so a lot of
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: us are fallen in love with artists who didn't even
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: write the song. They just sunk it and don't even
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: realize the artists broke and the person who wrote it
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: living in a mansions of copy right and ownership, you know.
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: And I said, you know, you might not recognize me,
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: because we recognized recognize. We may not recognize you. But
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: when a Negro ship with a shiny ball head, five
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: TV screens, a microphone and a smart water with a
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: basketball and gross right there, man, I got it, I
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: got it, got it? Okay, Artists of the Year, that's
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: the mine we stelling performing in the closing games of
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  Speaker 1: the World Games of twenty two all Like I just
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: say this, those honors were for twenty twenty one, when
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: a lot of people feeling sorry for themselves. A lot
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: of people were complaining about life. He was accomplishing those
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: tasks in twenty to be ardored in one. And so
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: I say that before we go over to the World
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  Speaker 1: Game conversations is this it's when is always oppl ta
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  Speaker 1: you the man. I remember when I was sending Hall
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: and I was writing his sitcom and it got canceled
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: and I want one of my best suits into the building.
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: The guy said, man, why are you all dressed up?
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: I said, why shouldn't I be? I said, it's not
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: a sad day for me. And so a lot of
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: people take sadness. I remember I did the eulogy for
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: my mom and my dad, you know what I'm saying.
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: And I did that because of the fact I wanted
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: to make sure that the message of how great they
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: were and how important they worked for me and my
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: family was told. I was told. And so I look
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  Speaker 1: at you. The World Games two that didn't come about
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  Speaker 1: based on something you did last year. That was just
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  Speaker 1: like you were saying. Joel Osten used to write, I
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: used to write the uh the sermons for his dad.
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  Speaker 1: That's want to preach. He don't want to preach. He
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: started writing, and when your dad suddenly passed away, he
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: was pushed to the forefront and is ready. Steve Harvey
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: didn't he didn't want to do family few. That wasn't
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: his option because he want to be a traffic cop.
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: And they turned them and made him the greatest star
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: on television in America today. Then I look at you
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: World Games when part of your journey. But guess what
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: when the opportunity to present itself, you didn't run from us.
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: Tell us about the World Game, tell about your role
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: in it past, Mike, and let's keep talking. I'm so
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: excited about the World Games. They come around every four
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: years after the Summer Games. Man, I'm telling you it
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: is so and I want to read this to you
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: because I want to make sure I get this right.
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: I want you to catch it. There are six categories
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: of sports competition. Man, I'm telling you what's so incredible
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: about the World Games is all the people that come
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: from across the world. Over thirty six hundred athletes will
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: come will converge on Birmingham, Alabama, from air sports to archery,
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: two billers to gymnastics. This was so important to me
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: because I have four boys. My top three boys played football.
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: They're starting on the football team. My third son, my
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: middle son, Michael, is um is on the spectrum of autism.
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: He has Asperger syndrome. So a lot of times in
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: the African American community where we speak, sports is either
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: football or basketball, football, basketball, music. I was able to
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: look at him. We have a pool table downstairs. He's
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: falling in love with pool, I said, Mike. Guess what.
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: He said, what Dad? You can get an Olympic medal
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: for billards. The World Games is so vital to our coach.
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: I'm telling you, the entire world is coming to Birmingham, Alabama.
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: It's a new generation of sports. We get a chance
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: to witness history, a once in a lifetime event. Look
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: at this. I want to get this right. There will
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: be two hundred plus metal competitions at the World Games,
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: and many of the events are the Sports World Championship.
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: That's critical. Take, for instance, the female team USA baseball
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: softball team. They're competing now, but they will also be
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: competing at the World Games. It's such an honor into
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: somebody who's dreaming big right now. I never in my
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: life thought I would be a part of the World Games.
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: Here's what's crazy, big bro? If you catch this. They
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: asked me to perform on the close and ceremony of
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: the World Games and help with the opening ceremony of
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: the World Games. But before they ever asked me that,
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: they asked me to be an ambassador for the World Games.
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: And I want you to catch this. Not because of
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: the songs, I say, not because of the billboard chart placements,
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: not because of the Stellar Awards, but because I've been
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: spending the last twelve years in my city, loving people,
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: and I want to submit to somebody right now. You
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: are so busy trying to blow up that God will
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: oftentimes check your motives. Let me give you this lesson
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: and I'm gonna let you go. Okay. Here it is,
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: God has two jobs. He either exalts or he humbles.
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna saying, either God exalts or he humbles. Make
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: that makes sense, pastor Mike. If you humble yourself, God
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: will exalt you. But if you exalt yourself, God will
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: humble you. And one thing I love about what you're saying. Man,
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: with all that you've done, and I really feel I've
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: not just gained a friend or a big brother, but
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: I've gained a mentor and an advisor who I can
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: run some stuff by and say, no, young blood, chill
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: right there, because you give me something and I want
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: all your listeners to catch us. These are money making decisions.
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: You give me something I can't pay for with your speed,
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: if you're able to give me advice about everything you
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: learned in thirty years and thirty minutes, I just gained
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: the speed of moving at a pace that I normally
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: couldn't move back. So for me, man, like you said,
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: working with the World Game, that's such an honor. Shout
• 32:56
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