Latest / Leading Leaders Podcast with J Loren Norris / 4/10/2026 ARE YOU OUT OF YOUR LEAGUE OR SIMPLY NOT PREPARED
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- 1:31Over the last year or so, we've really upped our investment in
- 1:35our relationships and our business.
- 1:37We've looked for new opportunities, new networking
- 1:39events, not just the circles around us which we continue to
- 1:43invest in and participate in in every way that we can, but
- 1:47looking for those circles that honestly, they're a bit of a
- 1:50reach, they're a bit of a stretch.
- 1:52They're not circles that we've been in before.
- 1:54They're not marketplaces that we're well known.
- 1:57That's always a little bit fear inducing, if you will, the
- 2:01minute you step into an arena you've never played in before,
- 2:04you've never fought in before, so to speak.
- 2:07I remember watching the old reruns because I didn't see it
- 2:12when it initially happened. But when Pride Fighting then
- 2:16moved into the UFC, there was a a strange transition back in the
- 2:22day, a lot of the guys in that arena, they fought looking like
- 2:26WWE. They had on their tight shorts
- 2:28and sometimes their wrestling boots and endo shirts.
- 2:31And then suddenly this Brazilian guy shows up and he's wearing
- 2:35his full pajamas. I mean his, his ghee, full ghee
- 2:39belt and the whole 9 yards. Hoist Gracie comes out of
- 2:42nowhere. Guys are in the ring with him.
- 2:45They're throwing punches, they're throwing kicks.
- 2:46They believe they are ready. They are strikers, they can take
- 2:50a blow. They're ready for anything.
- 2:53And after the 4th or 5th hit lands on Hoist Gracie's face,
- 2:56he's like, I'm done with this nonsense.
- 2:59Grabs the corner of his ghee, wraps it around the neck of the
- 3:02guy that he's in the ring with, puts him on the ground and
- 3:05chokes him out. And people win.
- 3:08What just happened? And in an instant, his strategy,
- 3:14his defense mechanisms, his training kicked in and literally
- 3:20changed the rules of the game. He was tapping people out in
- 3:26seconds sometimes, and nobody knew what to do with them.
- 3:32There were a lot of people, like, I'm a big power striker, I
- 3:35can take a hit. You can't get me on the ground.
- 3:38And they'd walk out of there and go.
- 3:39What just happened to me? That's kind of what happened to
- 3:43me last night. I stepped out of my realm.
- 3:46I told the people who invited me I don't do poker.
- 3:50I've never played a full handed poker in my life.
- 3:54Not for Jelly beans, not for dollars, not for car titles,
- 3:59Never, never played a full. I played some blackjack for like
- 4:04cereal, never played for serious, just for cereal, not
- 4:09for serious. And I sat down at a table where
- 4:15I have to be honest, I paid my buy in like everybody else.
- 4:19I got my chips like everybody else.
- 4:21And I knew when I sat down that was an investment.
- 4:27I didn't have any anticipation at all of winning.
- 4:32I told the people I got my CHEAT SHEET right here in the pocket
- 4:34so I can figure out what a good hand is.
- 4:37I would have only known it if all those cards were in front of
- 4:40me. And I can look at the cards and
- 4:41I can measure what what. And I was not ready.
- 4:45I was not even close to ready. I hadn't done enough homework.
- 4:48I wasn't prepared for the circle.
- 4:50Here's what I know in the end of the day, if you've ever paid to
- 4:54play for marketing, if you've ever bought an exhibit booth, a
- 5:00banner, a sign, an ad to put on the side of your car, an ad in a
- 5:05phone book, you've invested your money in an opportunity to put
- 5:11your business name in front of other people.
- 5:15Now a lot of people, and I'm sure there were some because I
- 5:17saw them with their stacks of chips.
- 5:18Let me let me correct that. They didn't have stacks of their
- 5:21chips. They had stacks of everybody
- 5:23else's chips because they started with the same amount of
- 5:25chips as everybody. And when they left, some people
- 5:27had no chips and some people had like piles of chips.
- 5:31So they left with stacks of other people's chips.
- 5:35Wealth transfer is another way to say that, but I have to look
- 5:38at it and say I'm willing to admit that I put my money on the
- 5:43table to join the game, not for the sake of the game.
- 5:49I put my money on the table to invest in the relationships
- 5:54around the table, handed out a healthy stack of business cards,
- 6:00had some great conversations, some great revelations as well.
- 6:06Now, if I were to say I'm now a poker player, I'm going to go
- 6:10compete in poker, I'd be a fool. That's what I would be.
- 6:13Have I played around a poker with a bunch of wealthy people?
- 6:15I have. Did I lose my shirt very
- 6:18quickly? I did.
- 6:20I also got my ego poked because I sat down at a table where I
- 6:25knew. First thing you got to know
- 6:27about gamblers, they're never going to tell you the truth.
- 6:30I don't care how nice they are, they're in it to win.
- 6:33They want to win and if they think they can get one up on
- 6:36you, they're going to do it. So I told them, look, I don't
- 6:39know what I'm doing. I mean, I really, this game is
- 6:43not a familiar thing to me. And several people at the table
- 6:49said, that's fine, we'll walk you through it.
- 6:53These are all guys of faith, or they claim to be guys of faith.
- 6:57They're all, they're all nice guys.
- 6:58They're all business owners. They're all very wealthy, very
- 7:02successful. That's great.
- 7:05And about halfway through the game we let a guy join the table
- 7:09and he sat down with a full stack and at one point he looked
- 7:13at me and he said honestly, how many?
- 7:16How many chips you got left? Because that's what I'm going to
- 7:19bet. It was literally at that point
- 7:22just me and him left in the hand.
- 7:24I had a queen and a king and all the cards on the table were just
- 7:30numbers. I had no idea what he had, but I
- 7:34was, I honestly, I was a little offended because he looked at me
- 7:39with his full stack of card, his full stack of chips and I got
- 7:43like 20 bucks left and he's like, I'll bet whatever you
- 7:47have, he was forcing me to go all in.
- 7:50He forced my hand. And because I didn't have a
- 7:55strong enough understanding of what was on the table versus
- 7:59what was in my hand versus what was his potential, I did an ego
- 8:06move. I folded and I walked to another
- 8:08table and donated my chips to somebody else's 'cause I refuse
- 8:13to let him have my chips. I refuse to let him win that
- 8:16way. Or he's going to win the hand
- 8:18anyway, right? I guess.
- 8:20I don't know. Maybe he's bluffing.
- 8:22Maybe he's got the best hand in the world.
- 8:24There's no chance that I'll beat him in the end.
- 8:28I asked him, I'm out, I'm walking away.
- 8:30I'm going to give my money to somebody else, but I'd love to
- 8:32see your cards so that I would know.
- 8:35He flipped his cards over. It was still Greek to me.
- 8:38I had no idea looking at his cards and what was on the table,
- 8:41what kind of hand he had. The guy next to me flipped my
- 8:45cards over and he goes, dude, you had a straight flush.
- 8:48You had the entire table. The pot would have been 100%
- 8:51yours. You ever lost because you didn't
- 8:57know what you didn't know. That would be it.
- 9:01Now, I still have to be honest and say there were a couple of
- 9:06things in my mind that were in my mind, in my heart, more
- 9:10important than whether or not I walked away with a stack of
- 9:14chips. Been talking all this week about
- 9:21how the internal story that's happening in your business.
- 9:26It's coming from the lips of your team.
- 9:30It comes from the mindset of the leader.
- 9:34It's called a brand. And I had a chance to build
- 9:38relationship with people that normally I wouldn't have just
- 9:41walked up to and said, hey, let me tell you about me or hey,
- 9:45this is the business that we're offering or this is the sale
- 9:48that we have or this is the special for the week.
- 9:52But in the conversation over Texas Holdem, I explained a
- 9:57little bit about what I do as I was listening to everybody else
- 10:00explain what they do. Like a typical network meeting,
- 10:03only you don't get 2 minutes. Now you got a couple of hours
- 10:07and I had a guy asked me for a card and then straight up ask
- 10:10what would you charge me to train 50 people?
- 10:16And I know the number wasn't a challenge to him.
- 10:20Oh, I've, I've worked in those arenas where I tell them I, I
- 10:23can do it for as low as and they're like, oh, that's so
- 10:26much. Do you have a scholarship?
- 10:27Can, can you do it for half? And we can I do some work for
- 10:30you so that I don't have to pay? What does that tell me?
- 10:33They don't really value what I do.
- 10:35This guy's like, I know what it's worth.
- 10:40Tell me what your price is. I didn't pay to play poker so
- 10:46that I could give away my money to a poker shark.
- 10:51I paid to be in an arena. Just like when you pay for VIP
- 10:54to go to an event, just like when you pay to buy advertising.
- 10:58But what was more important to me than whether I walked away
- 11:01with the stack of chips or not was that I walk away with
- 11:05relationships where the people that I met had a genuine
- 11:11impression of me and what I have to offer.
- 11:17You can't put money on that. See, I met a lot of people
- 11:21that's at this event. I met people who do a very
- 11:23similar thing to what I do. Many people would look at both
- 11:26of us and go, you guys do exactly the same thing.
- 11:28So now I just have to pick between price and personality.
- 11:32There's no chance that we do exactly the same thing.
- 11:35We do similar things. There are a lot of people who do
- 11:38similar things to what we do at Story Power, but nobody does
- 11:41exactly the same. That's why we exist.
- 11:43It's not competition. It's an opportunity to level
- 11:46everybody up, and I'm perfectly OK with that.
- 11:50What I'm not cool with is the people that I met who the minute
- 11:55you start a conversation with them, they're already looking
- 11:58down their nose at you. They've already decided you
- 12:01don't have the kind of wealth I have.
- 12:03I can tell by your shoes. I also had a conversation with a
- 12:09guy who said there was a season of my life not too long ago
- 12:12where $50,000 a month was my average and I honestly looked at
- 12:18people and went how can you even live on less than three 300,000
- 12:23a year? And then pride went before the
- 12:28fall, and I lost everything, nearly lost my family, and I
- 12:32nearly lost my life. There's a season when in running
- 12:40your business and building relationships, you've got to
- 12:45figure out what it means to be authentically you and the
- 12:49stories that you tell in your head, in the mirror, in the
- 12:54media. And they got to come to this
- 12:57level of consistency of authenticity, because without
- 13:02authenticity, there is no truth. And without truth, there is no
- 13:06trust. If you want people to trust you
- 13:08as a business, as a business owner, as a leader of any sort,
- 13:13I don't care if you're in ministry or mud pies, if people
- 13:20don't trust you, they won't do business with you long.
- 13:24And the lack of trust, that little bit of deception, that
- 13:27twisting the truth just to get the deal.
- 13:31Those side deals you don't tell anybody about just because,
- 13:33well, you know, they're going to make me money, but I don't want
- 13:35anybody else to know I'm doing that.
- 13:38Those kind of things will always come to light.
- 13:42And it may not be you that tells it, but somebody who's done
- 13:45business with you, who's seen you cut corners, who's seen you
- 13:49kind of slight the hand, they will tell.
- 13:54I had a conversation with one person who said, yeah, I've got
- 13:56this big, big thing coming up. It's a, it's a big, big deal.
- 14:00And, and, and it's about 95% done.
- 14:04I'm like, cool. He said, yeah, I, I didn't hire
- 14:07the attorneys. I used AI and I'm doing it all
- 14:11myself. I've got a couple of clients who
- 14:14are attorneys and I'm, I mean, like Pepperdine graduate
- 14:17universities. These are not smucks.
- 14:20These are not slubs. They know the game.
- 14:22They're they're ready to play at the highest level.
- 14:27And when I asked him about AI, in fact, I asked another one
- 14:29just last night, I said, so you're in this field, you move a
- 14:33whole lot of money. You manage money for people who
- 14:34have a whole lot of money. How do you feel about AI?
- 14:38He said, I double check everything AI does.
- 14:41It's a great research assistant. I don't have to pay an intern to
- 14:44go look up these past case histories.
- 14:46But I never trust the conclusion that it comes to.
- 14:50I always verify that myself and I never submit the documents
- 14:54that it creates. I do that myself.
- 14:58And yet I know there are people who are fully determined that if
- 15:01I just push the button, if I if I ask the right question and I
- 15:04get the right answers, I can trust what comes out of there.
- 15:07And it's going to be more brilliant than 100 people
- 15:09because it has access to all this data.
- 15:11Yes, it does. And as we were having this
- 15:16conversation, me and this one particular person, they said,
- 15:21well, I take it you don't like AII?
- 15:24Said I I don't dislike AI. It's a great tool.
- 15:27Just understand it's a tool. It's just a tool.
- 15:31If you trust it to be a staff person, I'm afraid you could be
- 15:34in trouble because AI will say things about you to the world
- 15:38that you can't back up. I mentioned that I work with a
- 15:43lot of political clients and a lot of people who are highly
- 15:46educated. I said, I have one particular
- 15:50political client that after we really started digging into the
- 15:53truth of their stories, they decided this world of politics
- 15:57is not for me. And they stepped out.
- 16:00And another client who decided to hire a publishing company to
- 16:04ghostwrite their book. They submitted all their
- 16:05content. They got back some sample
- 16:07chapters. And in Chapter 2, I'm reading
- 16:11through it. I'm like, that is a brilliant
- 16:13story. It's perfectly crafted.
- 16:16Just the right level of emotion, the right storyline.
- 16:18Everything seems to come together really, really well.
- 16:20Let me ask you a question. I see you were in this city.
- 16:23You were sitting on the bench and you're looking at the water.
- 16:25Was that that opening between the library and the Capitol
- 16:28building? Is that, is that where you were
- 16:29sitting? And my client kind of sheepishly
- 16:34replied, I yeah, I've never been there.
- 16:38Oh, fascinating. So you're telling a story to
- 16:46build credibility of how you know the secrets that you know.
- 16:53And the story you're telling to build credibility, IE to garner
- 16:59trust is fabricated. And yet at the end of the
- 17:06sequence, at the end of the book, if I scan the QR code,
- 17:09you're asking me to invest $25,000 in the service that you
- 17:13offer. That's a bit of a problem.
- 17:18See, when you've got borrowed stories, recycled stories,
- 17:22anecdotes from somebody else. I mean, I often will share stuff
- 17:26from books. I've done it this series in this
- 17:28in just in this last week. Stuff from Patrick Lincione and
- 17:31stuff from John Maxwell, stuff from are the five languages of
- 17:36appreciation. I'm slipping my mind right now.
- 17:39Who wrote that one? But maybe it'll come to me.
- 17:42I I've searched stuff from their books and when I do, I hold up
- 17:45the book so you can see the cover.
- 17:46This is not me. These are ideas that I agree
- 17:49with. These are ideas that I share.
- 17:51These are ideas perhaps even that shaped me.
- 17:53But what I'm not going to do is make up a story or let AI make
- 17:58up a story that I can't back up. If you hear me say something and
- 18:03you feel like I'm making it up or I'm stealing it from somebody
- 18:05else, call me on it. Honestly, call me on it.
- 18:09Either I'm going to explain it to you or I'm going to say, you
- 18:11know what? Maybe I didn't remember that
- 18:13wrong. Maybe I do need to give credit
- 18:15to somebody else for that. And I'm totally OK with that.
- 18:19In a conversation between Jordan Peterson and Simon Sinek, I
- 18:22heard Simon say this phrase. I thought it was powerful, it
- 18:26was beautiful, it was authentic, it was intelligently structured,
- 18:31he said. I have very strong opinions,
- 18:36loosely held, and I thought that kind of defines almost every
- 18:43argument that I've ever been in. Here's what I mean by that.
- 18:47There are a lot of times that it's your opinion against mine.
- 18:50It's it's not what I've studied and what you studied.
- 18:52It's the expression of the experiences that I've had and
- 18:58what I've learned from them. And when I express those things,
- 19:03I have to understand. Ego aside, this is through my
- 19:08own myopic learning. Maybe my experience was tainted
- 19:14by my own foolishness. Maybe my experience was tainted
- 19:17by my own past, my own trauma, my own mistakes.
- 19:21And so I come to this moment and I experience the same thing you
- 19:24experienced, and I read it differently.
- 19:27And if that's the case, and I've formulated opinions that I'm now
- 19:30vehemently behind, I stand strong on this opinion.
- 19:34And yet something is revealed to me to say, yeah, but you took it
- 19:41wrong. You heard it wrong.
- 19:43You heard it through the filter of something else.
- 19:46And now your opinion, while you may hold on to it very strongly,
- 19:49very loudly, very passionately, your opinion is ill informed.
- 19:55It's wrong. That's the moment that strong
- 20:00opinions, loosely held, is of value.
- 20:04It's when you can step back and go.
- 20:07Perhaps, perhaps I've been wrong about that.
- 20:11Let me reconsider my position. Let me change my opinion.
- 20:17If we could get more people who just grow old enough to do that,
- 20:20we would have a better world. We would have a better world of
- 20:23politics, we would have a better world of business, we would be
- 20:26better all the way around if people would let go of their
- 20:29hard held opinions because those opinions actually inform their
- 20:34belief system of those belief systems inform their behavior
- 20:37and that behavior becomes the story they tell.
- 20:40And now the opinion in the story are shaping their entire world.
- 20:45And when you hire them all that comes with them and then all of
- 20:49a sudden they run into headlong into your opinions, which might
- 20:54be wrong as well. And maybe they need to be
- 20:56changed. But see, when you, when you
- 20:59start using stories that are not your own, anecdotes that are not
- 21:03your own, you missed the punchline.
- 21:05You missed the point. You heard it a certain way and
- 21:08you took it that way and you thought, I'm going to run with
- 21:10this. It can very quickly destroy your
- 21:13brand. I feel confident that even in
- 21:17the moment that my ego was poked, even in the moment that I
- 21:19got a little bit riled up, even in the moment that I felt like
- 21:22I'm not going to let you win even though I actually won, but
- 21:26I'd already bowed out so I couldn't win.
- 21:28I'm not going to let you win. I would rather give my chips to
- 21:31a stranger than to let you win them.
- 21:33Even in that moment, my higher priority than walking away with
- 21:39a pile of chips was to be consistent with who I told
- 21:45everybody at that table I was when I sat down.
- 21:49To be consistent with the two people who invited me to be
- 21:53there. The two other people that
- 21:55trusted them to say, yeah, he's he's good in this environment,
- 21:58he's going to be fine. And the two or three people that
- 22:02I ran into from other circles, and I'm like, I wouldn't have
- 22:08expected you to be here, but I'm glad to see you.
- 22:12There were at least half a dozen people who know me by name,
- 22:15recognize me on the street, and they'd be like, I know who that
- 22:17guy is. And if I acted a fool, if I let
- 22:23my ego get too big and I didn't guard my brand, my reputation,
- 22:31what other people say about me when I walk out of the room,
- 22:34then it wouldn't have mattered. If I put down to dollars, 200
- 22:37dollars, 2000 dollars, $20,000, it wouldn't matter what I put on
- 22:40the table. It would have cost me more to
- 22:45damage my brand. Now I know a lot of people that
- 22:48go to an event like that and they have a few too many beers.
- 22:54I don't think I saw one last night.
- 22:56I heard someone mention one. I don't think I saw them.
- 22:58Most people are drinking water or tea.
- 23:01It was that kind of event. The truth that you can have a
- 23:06couple too many and make a fool of yourself doesn't stop that
- 23:12night. It's like ADOI, it follows you
- 23:15for decades. It's on your record and never
- 23:18goes away. And when you damage your brand
- 23:20in a moment of foolishness because your ego is there and
- 23:23other people start telling stories about you, let me tell
- 23:26you something. AI cannot overcome a brand
- 23:29damaged by foolishness. The best marketing pieces in the
- 23:34world will not fix an arrogant leader.
- 23:38Or you can put the slogans out there, You can put the logos out
- 23:41there. You can offer to pay people when
- 23:43you show up late. All that's great.
- 23:47But if the service they receive when they work with you is not
- 23:49good, all the marketing in the world doesn't matter.
- 23:54There are people that I know who spend oodles and gobs of money
- 23:59on getting attention. But if you ask about doing
- 24:03business with them, there's as much negative as there is
- 24:08positive. In fact, many of them who
- 24:10operate that way spend a whole lot of money trying to recreate
- 24:14a positive image. In fact, I've heard them say if
- 24:18you invest enough in the positive image, even the
- 24:21negative press is to your benefit.
- 24:25You just have to drown out the naysayers by spending more money
- 24:28on the positive. Just market, market, market,
- 24:31market, market. Get awareness, get awareness,
- 24:32get awareness, and you're going to overcome all that stuff.
- 24:35And in the world of short term memories, that's true.
- 24:41In the world of brand reputation, not so much.
- 24:45And there will be a point, a tipping point where the stories
- 24:48that you've told about yourself and the stories that everybody
- 24:51else tell about you, they don't line up.
- 24:54When you're using fake stories and fake antidotes and you're
- 24:56making things up just for the purpose of attention.
- 25:00What you've done is created your brand to be one of those things
- 25:03built on the type of awareness that's the equivalent of a clown
- 25:07on a unicycle. Oh, you got their attention for
- 25:10the moment, but how long can you stay on that unicycle?
- 25:17There was a season in our life that we operated these kids
- 25:20events. And one of the things that I
- 25:21used to do to advertise these kids events was I would put on a
- 25:26giant inflatable clown suit. And when I had this suit on, I
- 25:29looked like I was £600 and I would put that clown suit on
- 25:33with a uniform shirt of our kids event and I would walk around
- 25:36town and hand out Flyers and coupons to get kids to come to
- 25:39our event. It was a successful business for
- 25:42its season. It did really, really well and
- 25:46we had a great relationship with a lot of the kids.
- 25:48Go back and watch yesterday's episode, you'll hear a little
- 25:51bit more about why we did what we did.
- 25:53But on a particular day that I wore my clown seat, I was out.
- 25:56I went to the Parks and Rec. I was hanging out there, hanging
- 25:59out around the pool. A lot of the kids that were
- 26:00there were coming to the event that night.
- 26:02And so we were having some banter, etcetera, etcetera, and
- 26:05I decided to be funny and climb up on the high dive in my clown
- 26:09suit. I apparently forgot for that
- 26:12moment. I was so hyped up in my own
- 26:15look. The whole world is looking at
- 26:16the clown on the diving board. Everybody knew who I was.
- 26:19Everybody knew the clown was. They know it was me and that we
- 26:22were doing this kids event later and I was so wrapped up in that
- 26:29that the high school physics lessons slipped past me.
- 26:36If it holds air, it holds water because those molecules are
- 26:41bigger. And I jumped off the high dive
- 26:46into 13 feet of water and I sank like a rock to the bottom and
- 26:53the longer I was there, the more filled with water my suit
- 26:56became. I don't know if you know this or
- 26:59not, but regular old water weighs 8.33 lbs per gallon.
- 27:05I can only imagine if it's 600 lbs of size with the volume of
- 27:10water was inside that suit. I can tell you this.
- 27:14I opened my eyes and I looked up through the water and I saw a
- 27:18young lady sitting on the lifeguard stand looking down at
- 27:20me and laughing at the clown at the bottom of the pool, unaware
- 27:25that I'm now too heavy to get back to the top.
- 27:31And my first thought was, if she jumps in here, we're both going
- 27:34to drown because she can't pick me up.
- 27:36There's no way. And so I went about the business
- 27:40of swimming myself to the top, kicking as hard as I could,
- 27:43pulling with both arms. By the time I got to the
- 27:45surface, my deltoids were burning like I've been doing
- 27:48military press for hours. I got to the top, got off the
- 27:53edge of the pool. People are still laughing.
- 27:55And I'm thinking to myself, they would have been laughing while I
- 27:58drowned because they had no idea that what they saw and what was
- 28:04really happening are not the same thing.
- 28:11When I learned to play pool, I played with an old man in my
- 28:16apartment complex when I was in college.
- 28:18And this old guy used to beat me like a stick.
- 28:24I mean, it was, it was just embarrassing.
- 28:27I didn't know how to hold AQI, didn't know the difference
- 28:30between 8 ball and 9 ball. I didn't know what a scratch
- 28:32was. When he started talking about
- 28:34all these other kinds of rules in different games in different
- 28:37leagues, I was way in over my head.
- 28:42But in 2002, I competed in the World Championship, well at
- 28:46least the US Championship in Las Vegas, and I placed in the top
- 28:5025% because I learned to play the rules of the game.
- 28:56I built an understanding through repetition and practice.
- 29:02I mastered the craft. There are only two things in the
- 29:07world that I've ever considered myself.
- 29:09World competition. Qualified in public speaking and
- 29:16pool. And I have trophies to prove my
- 29:19value. No, let me say that again not to
- 29:22prove my value. Causeway.
- 29:23My value has nothing to do with that.
- 29:25To prove my skill set. I have trohies to prove my skill
- 29:28set in both of those arenas. You know any trohies I've got
- 29:33for Poker 0, I was in over my head.
- 29:37I was way out of my league. Now, is it that I'm not capable
- 29:40of playing that game? No, I am my my mind thinks that
- 29:43way. I have that strategy.
- 29:45I do know this though, I would have to switch from nice guy to
- 29:47mean guy to be good at it. And I'm not sure that's the
- 29:50brand I want to live up to. So I may continue to give my
- 29:55money away just to be in that circle, just to have
- 29:57conversations with people just so I can influence them.
- 30:00Because I did meet people who are living financially
- 30:04successful and still struggling, struggling with some strategies
- 30:07that I can help them with. And I would love to do that.
- 30:10And if I have to pay to sit at that table to be in that arena,
- 30:15that's as good as buying another box of business cards.
- 30:19Are you in over your head? Are you out of your league or
- 30:22just not yet prepared for the game that you're walking into?
- 30:25Are you using somebody else's story, somebody else's brand?
- 30:28Is there confusion in your brand because you're trying to play
- 30:32somebody else's game and it's not you?
- 30:36Are you letting somebody else write your brand stories because
- 30:40you're not paying attention to them at all?
- 30:42If any of those things are challenging you, I'm challenging
- 30:46you to get deeper into your stories.
- 30:50Why do you do what you do? What caused you to start this?
- 30:53Is there a a moment in your life that you look back and go?
- 30:56That's when I decided this is my calling.
- 31:00Those stories, those authentic stories, those stories build
- 31:03trust. Those stories tell the truth.
- 31:07Those stories will make you a lot of money and build deeper
- 31:10relationships with the people you serve.
- 31:13And if you don't know this or not, I'm going to give you this
- 31:15little golden nugget. It's always cheaper to get more
- 31:19money from an existing client than it is to go get a new
- 31:22client if you have to market because every time you're
- 31:25starting over a relationship, that's a brand problem.
- 31:31True story. I'm Jay Lauren Norris with
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- 32:28communicates And well, if you connect now as a participant in
- 32:32this course, what I would really love to know from you, put it in
- 32:35the discussion on the course. If you're already registered
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- 32:41e-mail. I'd really love to know what you
- 32:44hope to get out of this course. I can tell you what we're going
- 32:47to discuss and I can tell you what I plan to teach and train
- 32:50you on, and I can tell you even what we plan to discuss each
- 32:53week on the calls for the next six weeks.
- 32:56I'm going to go over all of that for you in just a moment.
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- 33:06business development to increase their impact, their influence,
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- 33:12includes story mining, story selection, story qualification,
- 33:17story crafting, connecting with your audience, and leading the
- 33:20narrative. And if you leave any one of
- 33:23those parts out, you're going to find that or you're just not as
- 33:25effective as you want to be. You're not going to grow your
- 33:28business to the same level. You're not going to lead with
- 33:30impact and influence like you hoped to.
- 33:33I can also tell you that the people who apply these things,
- 33:37well, they're not failing in their business.
- 33:39The reason a lot of people fail in their business is they
- 33:43continue to fail to connect the solution they offer with the
- 33:47problem that their clients have. The pain in the solution never
- 33:51come together, and a lot of that failure is because they're not
- 33:56clearly articulating how their solution solves someone else's
- 34:00problem. It comes down to a question,
- 34:03something like this. Who do you help and how?
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