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[BxBD] It's a light week...let's make it work · Boxing B-Sides

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This shit ain't nothing to me, man. Do the thing.
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Fucking boxing before dark. Don't take your edibles
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just yet, because it's still a light out. Shanada,
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how are you doing on this wonderful Saturday
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morning for you, right? Yeah, pretty good. I'm
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sick, so I don't know if I sound real nasally
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today. I sounded like shit yesterday. And it's
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raining, so good day to stay inside. Nasally.
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Rain. I don't know if that would help. Would
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that make it worse? No, it doesn't. But it makes
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me feel better about not doing anything. I don't
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have to do laundry. I can just relax. Lazy rainy
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days. Yeah. Thursday night, I almost drowned
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in my own snot. I don't know what I caught, but
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it was all in my sinuses. It was disgusting.
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I wore a mask to work and I had to leave because...
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It was getting full of mucus. Oh, that's not
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fun. It was disgusting. I used to wear those.
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I had some that I wore. Like, if I just had something
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like the sniffles, I would wear a mask to work.
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And this was, like, 2016, 2017. And people would
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look at me. I had one, one of my supervisors,
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she asked, like, what the hell is that on your
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face? Like, it's a little mask. Like, I... I'm
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not feeling 100%, but not enough to not be here.
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Stay home. Yeah. Yeah. I don't want to be coughing
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on you guys. It's very common here. Some people
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just wear them as, like, a fashion accessory.
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Like, there was one girl, I don't know how to
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say it nicely, but she looked better with a mask
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on, and she just wore it all the time. Yeah,
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it does seem like a fashion thing as well. It's
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just an accessory. Yeah. It's part of some of
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the, like, dress cultures. That's not what she
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was doing. She was just covering up her weak
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jaw. Anyways, I hate them. My glasses fog up.
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It's gross. And you can't really sniff in your
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snot when you're wearing them, because then it,
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like, clinks to your face. Ugh. But I am on the
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mend. That's good. You see this picture of Travis
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Jr. in Discord? He actually looks like he's taking
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it kind of seriously. The thing you sent me?
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No. This is in Maine. Oh. Yeah. He's got his
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pants hiked up around his ribs. He looks like
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he's taking training pretty seriously. He does
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look much more fit than he has. In his past few
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fights. Yeah. I hope he knocks Jake Paul out.
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Highly, highly unlikely. But it would be nice.
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Well, let's move into the news. There's not a
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lot of it. It's going to be a short one. That's
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why we talk about boogers and edibles. Because
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we've got to build the time a little bit. Punchburger
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is having eye surgery. I think he already did.
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So I didn't see any English news about it. I
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guess he's not that famous. But I sent an article
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to my friend to translate because Google Translate
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has trouble with some of the boxing news. And
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he said Punchburger has had eye surgery, but
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they've made him champion in recess because he
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needs to defend soon. So instead, it's going
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to be... What did I tell you? Higa versus Vargas?
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Yeah. So they're either going to push for the
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Higa trilogy or consolidates with whoever the
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other guy is. I'm having trouble picturing who
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that is right now. Vargas. I am so bad at names.
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Yeah. Oh, Antonio Vargas. Are you one of the
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brothers? I typed in Vargas boxer and it auto
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-filled to Jose Vargas says he's not gay after
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explicit same -sex clip circulates online. I
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don't know why. All right. So out of pocket.
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Okay, sorry. Yeah. That's the hard -hitting reporting
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that we're looking for. It's out .com, so...
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It's... Huh, Antonio Vargas. Ray Vargas, right?
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No, which Vargas is it? Antonio. Antonio Vargas.
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I don't... Too many of them. It's a common name.
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I don't know where... He's already the interim
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champion. So, I guess Daigo Higa. fights for
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the interim. I mean, that makes sense. Somebody
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was complaining about Higa always getting title
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shots, but his last fight was a draw with the
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champion. It makes sense that he gets to fight
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for the interim after. I think. I think so, too.
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I was going to look up, because he has a lot
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of close fights with champions. Yoshiki Takei
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was super close. He doesn't seem to win very
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many of them. I guess is the problem. He's on
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the Okinawan side of the judges' decisions. Yeah.
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They do seem to treat him better than some of
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the other ones, though. He doesn't have that
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many losses. Two of them are to current champions.
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And Christopher Rosales. I don't know who that
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is. I don't either. But yeah, he lost to Nishida
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and he lost to Takei. Those are solid losses.
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Yeah. And Nishida's up for Junto and Nakatani,
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right? Yeah. They're fighting soon -ish. Aren't
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they? uh june 8th yeah i need to try and get
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a ticket for that i don't know i don't know who
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to buy the ticket from i think nishida might
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have a more fun crowd nakatani has gotten that
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mainstream famous enough that it seems to be
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all businessmen in his sections yeah they're
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boring as hell I would say go with Mashida. Go
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with the Osaka hooligans. Yeah, yeah. Should
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be more fun. Speaking of hooligans, I have some
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stories from the Ioka fight. Well, I'll wait
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till we get to the Ioka card. All right. So,
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well, I was going to say thinking it should be
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more fun. Tank versus Roach, the rematch. Yeah.
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Not sure why the champ is giving that bum tank
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a rematch. Because we all know who won that fight.
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This is going to tie in with the Navarrete thing,
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so I don't know if you want to do it now or later,
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but if they're changing results after, that Tank
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Roach should have been overturned, the whole
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result. It should have been a Roach win. If you
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can change the outcome of fights based on video
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replay after the fight's over, well, it should
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have been changed instantly, but Roach won that
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fight. Tank took a knee. At the very least, you
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take a point for the knee. Yeah. Yeah. It's bullshit.
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I'm not sure. No, we'll get to that one later.
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But yeah, there was a knee. Fucking Roach won.
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Knocked Tank down. With the power of grease,
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I guess. Who knows? Also, do you not wash your
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fucking hair? I know black hair is different
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when it's in braids and stuff, but it should
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have at least gotten wet in five days, especially
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with training and making a weight cut and all
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the sweat. Yeah. I don't claim to be an expert
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on braids or anything, but I feel like at some
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point they should have at least been rinsed.
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That's gross. Or toweled off. Or something. Something.
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Something should have happened there. Anyways,
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I really hope Roach wins the rematch. I don't
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know if he will. I'm not so sure he will. I think
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Tank might come in better prepared. Because I
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think Tank had a sparring mindset a little bit
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in that one. Don't take it too hard. Well, because
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they were sparring partners a while ago, but
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I think maybe that it didn't really click in
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his head that it's a real fight. Hence the taking
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a knee and getting toweled off in the corner
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mid -fight. Fucking garbage. I have a feeling
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that this is going to play out the way a lot
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of the... Very few of Floyd Mayweather's rematches.
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He always did a lot better in the rematches.
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He had done the downloading trademark. Yeah.
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I don't know if tank is that... How do I put
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it? Like, skilled's not the right word. Technical,
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maybe? That the downloading is really going to
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help? Like, he's technical, but not in a Mayweather
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way. Cerebral. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. I'm
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going to be cheering for Roach again anyways.
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I fucking do not like Tank. Mongoloid technician.
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Mongoloid technician. I like that. Yeah. What's
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the actual puncher? Boxer puncher. Yeah. Yeah.
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My dad does not realize that group chats are
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group chats. He's telling my mom what to make
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for supper in the family chat. Excellent. Very
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boomer activities. Now I'm hungry. They're having
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side pork, which is something I can't buy here.
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Is that side tack? I don't know what that is.
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It's like uncured bacon, kind of. I know what
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you mean. It's just always been called side pork.
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I've never heard it called side pork, but...
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Anyways. Yeah. Sorry. Nah, it's fine. That's
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all we got in the news. It's a pretty slow week.
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Yeah, you know what else I have? I haven't been
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keeping up with the... grand prix is it when
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is that supposed to continue i have no idea i
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rely on you mostly for calendar things the first
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four days are complete so that's the first part
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of the bracket I think... It's probably a couple
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more months, right? Yeah, it'll be a few weeks
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at the least. A few more weeks. Moving into some
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recent fights. Lee Wood was not lethal. Yeah.
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Damn it. I wanted him to win. But Lee Wood is...
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the epitome of not very skilled. But he's so
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good at being not very skilled. And I don't like
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Kakachi. He's kind of dirty. Kind of. He's real
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dirty in the clinches. But I don't know. If this
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is what Leawood looks like, maybe it's time to
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hang him up. He's old. He's our age. Yeah. He's
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been in wars. He's been losing wars for years.
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But, man, I wanted him to pull out one more big
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one. But his corner threw in the towel, I think,
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at an appropriate time. But no reason for him
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to take more damage. Although with Lee Wood,
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you always have that, but maybe the next punch.
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Yeah, the next one will be the one that turns
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it. Yeah. Damn it, now Kakashi gets to continue.
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Yeah. Who's the... Who do you think he'll fight
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next? I really... Ford mops the floor with Kikachi,
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I think. Yes, I think so too. I think Kikachi
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is looking for one big payout though. I think
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that's about all he has in him. I don't think
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he's that good. He's 36 as well. Yeah, and he's
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also old. Charlie Suarez. How's that for a payout?
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He's getting his rematch. Suarez is tied up.
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He is super feather, isn't he? Yes. I'm trying
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to think of who his promoter is. He can fight
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Joe Cordina. Again? I was just looking for Brits.
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Josh Warrington just had a big -ish win. Fuck
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Josh Warrington. Actually, those two can fight
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each other and see whose head is harder. Just
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headbutts in the middle of the ring. They've
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got Kenichi Ogawa. listed as number two by the
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WBO. I'd like to see Ogawa again. So I'm looking
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in Discord in the main chat and they are posting
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stuff from this random ass card. Brand Risk,
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I think it's called. I can see why it's called
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Brand Risk, based on the pictures I'm seeing.
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It looks very low production. It's an interesting
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event, to say the least. Is that a Confederate
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flag on his ass? It is. And is that man black?
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He is. Why? We all make mistakes in life. I don't
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know. I'm guessing it's part of the flag of where
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he's from. I guess that makes sense. America's
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weird. Some of the southern states still have
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that. They have that branding. Who else was on
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this card? There was somebody... Yeah, Sam Noakes.
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People were really excited about seeing him again.
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Yeah. And by people, I mean Lin. Sam Noakes seems
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to be a decent prospect as far as Brits go. Which,
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backhanded compliment, I suppose. And he won
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by... KO in 30. KO in three. Okay. I don't know
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if I actually watched that one. The British cards
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are really early in the morning for me. Do you
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see, George Cambosos? Do you see how you're supposed
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to do it? I don't think anyone else on this card
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was really worth mentioning, though. Liam Davies
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was there, I guess. Yeah, I guess. Ezra Taylor,
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I recognize the name. Yeah, I don't know. Anyways,
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I think that might actually be the last time
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we see Leewood, and it makes me sad. At least
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he went out in a scrap. Yeah, and he had to be
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saved from himself, like always. As one thing
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nobody can question is Leewood's grit. He always
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gets up. Well, almost always. Moving to Fernando
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Martinez versus Kazuto Ioka. Yeah, I picked up
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last -minute tickets for this, and I got the
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cheaper ones, and I ended up in the drunken asshole
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section, and it was great. The crowd was actually
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really into it. That gymnasium isn't very big.
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The only problem was I was behind the boom camera,
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so I had to watch on the screen every once in
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a while. That's not fun. Yeah, nothing on the
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undercard was really all that exciting. And I
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don't know why they're pushing Hayato Tsutsumi
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so much. He's not that good. Yeah, I was going
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to ask about him. He's okay, but I don't think
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he's that good. There's nothing special about
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him. But Martinez versus Ioka was a really good
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fight. If people missed it, you should go find
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it. If you search the title in Japanese, like
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with the Japanese character, there was a full
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replay on YouTube. I don't know if it's still
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up. But the whole thing was just fucking great.
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Ioka got live wrapped in. by a guy and he was
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actually really good and then Fernando Martinez
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they brought like the big traditional stand -up
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drums and even so during the co -main event you
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could hear these drums in the locker room because
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the place isn't that big so it's just like that
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scene in Lord of the Rings where the drums start
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in the mine it's like boom boom but coming from
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a distance yeah and then they they carried it
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out uh not in the walkout but while he was doing
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his walkout they must have carried it up into
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the stand so during the fight you could hear
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it uh it was straight across from me and martinez
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walked out to some argentinian song i don't know
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but they had Argentinian flags all over the place
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but also umbrellas with the flag that they were
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like dancing twirling with the umbrellas during
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the walkout the whole thing was great and the
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fight was a fucking war again this one was way
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more competitive though like I I'm not upset
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that Ioka didn't get the nod but he maybe could
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have and he knocked Martinez down in I think
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the 10th or 11th and everybody jumped up and
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was yelling and he went and he did try for the
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knockout but he just didn't get it it was crazy
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it was a really good fight this one you should
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watch it yeah i was gonna say it's on daily motion
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you know for people who maybe need replays daily
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motion is legit uh so this fight was more competitive
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you said Way more competitive, yeah. The last
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one was action -packed and fun, but this one
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was more competitive. And of course, one of the
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scorecards fucked Ioka, because they always do.
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I was waiting for a second to slip that in, just
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to say, well, of course it was more competitive.
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It was 120 to 108. How could you go any lower
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than that? Well, one had it 113 -114. And the
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other had it 1 .12, 1 .15, and then there was
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1 .10, 1 .17. So... Because. 1 .12, 1 .17? There
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was a knockdown. That math isn't mathing on the
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last one, but... Did I say it wrong? 1 .10, 1
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.17? Oh, okay, yeah. That sounds more... Aligned.
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Anyways. uh it was a really good really competitive
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fight and uh i always ask the security guards
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to help me find my seat because they're written
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in kanjis so just to make sure and the security
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guard showed me my seat and i was sitting there
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and part way through somebody came and they're
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like you're in my seat and i was like what and
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so i got out my ticket and he didn't speak english
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and i showed him and he's like no that this is
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my seat i was like i don't know where i'm supposed
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to go um so i was supposed to be in row 12 seat
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11 but i was in row 11 seat 12 so i just had
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to go up one oh which is fine but i had already
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been talking to the guys who were sitting beside
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that seat And so I moved up, and their English
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was not good, and my Japanese is not good enough
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to explain what was going on. And so one of them
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thought I was trying to pick him up, and he told
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me that his girlfriend was the ring girl, which
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could be true, I don't know, but I thought it
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was fucking hilarious. You are speaking to him.
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That must mean you're trying to bang him. Well...
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I moved seats to sit beside him. Oh, I see. But
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that's not why I moved seats. I moved seats because
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I was in the wrong seat. But I could not get
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that across. Yeah. It was pretty funny. Yeah.
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He got really red and then made his friend change
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seats with him. The embarrassed Japanese man.
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Yeah, and then he thought I didn't understand
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any Japanese because I really can't speak it
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worth a shit. So he was telling his friend that
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he should try and pick me up because clearly
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I was looking for a boyfriend. I was like, god
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damn it. But, pretty funny. Did you look into
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those translator headphones I was telling you
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about? Yeah, they don't sell them on Amazon Japan.
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Boo. I found something that advertised being
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really similar, but all it actually is is paying
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a subscription for an app, and then they send
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you headphones. Yeah, it doesn't look like a
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subscription service. You just pay the one thing
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and you get access to the app. No, the ones I
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bought headphones. that advertised like that,
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but it was like $12 a month or something for
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the app. Fuck that. Yeah, so I got my money back.
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And they didn't want their headphones back, so
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now I have free headphones. Well, that works.
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I guess. I didn't really want the headphones.
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I was happy to mail them back. But... Yeah. Moral
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of the story is, though, Martina Zioka might...
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be fight of the year right now. It was that good.
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Nobody watched it. As is tradition. Yeah. For
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the smaller weights. Well, I couldn't think of
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a good segue here. Emmanuel Navarrete versus
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Charlie Suarez. Unanimous technical decision
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on what was difficult to tell if it was a cut.
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At the time. Did they overturn it after? Not
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that I've seen. I think they did. That should
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be on BoxRec if they did, right? Yes, it should
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be. It still was a nav green when I saw it. Hmm.
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Yes. Okay. Maybe people were just talking that
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they should, and I misunderstood. Yeah, in the
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heat of the moment, a lot of people were... It
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looked like a punch in the heat of the moment.
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There were some weird misgivings around the whole
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thing that were kind of... I don't know. I don't
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know. It didn't look like it was enough to me
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to rule out the punch being causal. So, yeah,
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this is something we can discuss, I think. So
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the way it works, my understanding, the referee
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has to make a decision, and then they can go
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to video replay. And it's like most sports where
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you need undisputable evidence to overturn the
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referee's decision, right? Right. I think that's
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the way it should work. The ref needs to make
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a decision, and if he's wrong, he's wrong. But
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you need a decision made first. Because if you
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don't, if you're like, we're just going to go
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to the video, and the evidence is bad, like in
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this case, everything they showed during the
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fight, you couldn't tell. People told me that
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after the fight, there was a new angle or something
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that came out. espn had a different angle i don't
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know but everything they showed during the fight
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was inconclusive to me and to everyone else so
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they said that the referee's decision had to
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stand which i makes sense to me but i mean the
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referee has to do it at real time on the spot
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I think it was perfectly reasonable for him to
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say it was a head clash, even though on super
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slow motion, you can see it isn't. Yeah, it did
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take a different angle coming out. And it wasn't
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like they zoomed in a lot where it got all grainy.
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It was a pretty clear image where it showed the
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blood spatter onto his... the blood spatters
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onto the glove of Suarez, which the glove, what
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made it work in his favor is that the gloves
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were white. Right. So it was easy to tell. But
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other than that... Yeah, no, I haven't seen that
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angle. The only thing I saw that... people said
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was conclusive that i didn't think was very conclusive
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was that super zoomed in one where it's so zoomed
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in the color gets lost and people are like look
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there's two drops of blood on these two frames
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and i'm like if that's what you're basing it
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on that's you can't fuck with the video that
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much yeah might as well light some incense and
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put on some shawls and try to decipher the images
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of the fucking static overlords But the, I don't
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know, I like video replay, but you have to have
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rules around it, I think. Like, not in boxing,
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I don't think this rule really applies, but in,
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like, CFL, Canadian football, the Canadian version
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of the NFL, they have to, the replay team has
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to watch at full speed to make decisions on,
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like, fumbles and stuff did he have control if
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you watch it at full speed or early hits like
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at full speed can you tell that he hit him before
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the ball touched his hands that sort of stuff
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and i think with boxing like zooming in is the
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equivalent of watching the slow -mo it's like
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you can't really start zooming in and fucking
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with the video in my opinion there's only so
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much zooming in you can do before you lose integrity
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of the image Well, and if you have to zoom in
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and go frame by frame to overturn something,
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that seems bullshit to me. Frame by frame, it's
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a little excessive in boxing. But other sports,
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I don't know, I think it's alright to have so
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you can see exactly when something touched and
31:51
what didn't. I mean baseball, it makes sense.
31:56
Yeah. So you can have the first base. But, like,
32:01
I like that you have to watch it at full speed
32:03
for the CFL, because if it is so fucking close
32:07
that you're slow -moing to see if it's a penalty,
32:10
it's not a penalty. Like, he timed it pretty
32:15
good if you have to slow -mo it. And honestly,
32:21
with this one, I think it's still weird, because...
32:25
The punch opened the cut or started the cut,
32:29
but what really made it a bad cut was him pulling,
32:33
like rubbing the wrist of his boxing glove over
32:38
top of it. That's what really split his eye open,
32:41
I think. I think you're right. I would agree
32:43
with that. It did look like he did something.
32:46
It looked like there was a spot where their heads
32:48
maybe rubbed together. Then there's where his
32:51
wrist catches on the cut. So there was stuff
32:55
going on. That wrist catch, I think, is what
32:58
really actually opened it, though. Yeah, I would
33:02
say that's definitely the case. I would agree
33:05
with that 100%. But if it was caused by a punch,
33:10
I guess that's still within the rules. Accidental
33:17
cut gouging? It sounds so bad when you put it
33:23
that way, though. Yeah, I don't know. This one's
33:28
controversial, but everything during the broadcast
33:34
made me side with leaving it the ref's decision.
33:40
Yeah, it wasn't enough to overturn it. Where
33:45
did this other angle come from? I think it was
33:49
from the ESPN broadcast crew. Oh, was it? It
33:53
wasn't somebody in the crowd or something? No.
33:57
It's weird that they didn't have it then. Yeah,
33:59
that is weird. I guess they kind of stopped looking
34:05
after the video replay ref decided not to overturn
34:11
the decision. Eh, well, it's been decided, so
34:17
what's really the point? Yeah, I guess. It was
34:26
a pretty fun fight up to that point, though.
34:30
Navarrete still Navarrete throwing weird -ass
34:33
punches from weird -ass angles. Long -ass arms.
34:41
And chubby. I don't... I don't understand. I
34:48
don't understand how at that weight class he
34:51
has, like, love handles. It's always a thing.
34:59
I'm trying to remember. It was Josh that brought
35:01
it up that either... It's either Navarrete that,
35:10
like, dies to make weight or... He looked like
35:13
shit trying to make weight and they cut his hair,
35:16
I think. Yeah. And it's either that or the opponent
35:21
weighs in extra light. Like the example he gave
35:28
was Liam Wilson, who has never weighed 126 in
35:35
his career. The closest he's weighed is 128.
35:42
And he magically comes in at 126. And Nav makes
35:46
weight comfortably. That's kind of weird. That's
35:49
pretty questionable. That's the only one I'm
35:53
seeing on BoxRec that's like that, though. I
35:56
think so. But yeah, I know. Nav looked like shit
36:01
on the scales. Like... And he had to weigh in
36:06
five times or something. And they gave him a
36:11
haircut to make the last... ounce or whatever
36:15
it is 0 .05 yeah ridiculous maybe he should have
36:26
jerked one out that would have gotten you just
36:30
over the finish line but um charlie suarez was
36:37
looking way better than anyone expected though
36:39
like I assume they're doing a rematch. They kind
36:43
of have to. As far as I know, they are already.
36:49
The tweet was, regardless of how the commission
36:54
rules on the cut situation, Suarez and Nav have
37:00
already agreed in principle that they're redoing
37:04
the... Nice. That's going to have to be a while,
37:09
though, I think. That must have been many stitches.
37:13
That was a bad one. And it's in a bad spot. It
37:20
bled directly into his eye. The cutman in his
37:26
corner was doing really good work. He'd have
37:29
it stopped by the time they came out of the corner,
37:34
but then one punch and then it's blood city.
37:40
Yeah. Being covered in someone else's blood.
37:46
Not. Not ideal. No, not at all. Had it happen
37:51
like on a limited basis, but never like that.
37:57
Gross. Yeah. Oh, just a PSA for anyone who does
38:04
get in bar fights. Go get tested for hepatitis
38:06
C. Afterwards. Especially if you're in Saskatoon.
38:13
Is that a common thing? Well, you can catch Hepatitis
38:18
C from getting blood on you. Just from getting
38:22
it on you? It's pretty low chances, but yeah.
38:28
Like, if you have an open cut and somebody else's
38:32
blood gets in you, you can catch Hepatitis C.
38:41
Ray Murataya secures the IBF. I don't even want
38:46
to say interim. It's because Lomachenko's gone.
38:51
It's time to accept it. Yeah, he needs to make
38:55
that official. He's holding things up. Could
39:02
make him like a champion in recess. Then if he
39:05
comes back, then he fights whoever's holding
39:07
the belt. He's not coming back. No, he's not,
39:11
but just thought it would be a good way to still
39:16
give him his props, you know, for being himself,
39:19
being who he is, but also keeping things moving
39:22
along. Fair enough. Being political. Yeah. Moritaya
39:31
looked good, or I thought he looked good. He
39:34
did, and Abdullayev also looked like ass. I'm
39:37
not sure what his deal was. I was expecting better.
39:46
Yeah, I don't remember a whole bunch of that
39:48
fight, to be honest. I just remember Moritaya
39:51
really schooled him. 118 -110 and two 119 -109s.
40:02
Yeah, that's pretty schooled. That's well schooled.
40:12
With this, though, I think he's number one to
40:16
Keyshawn Davis. Is he? Yeah, I think he's the
40:21
number one in the IBO in addition to having the
40:25
IBF belt. I'm curious. Who are his others? Shakur
40:33
Stevenson with WBC. And, uh, is it Gary Antoine?
40:40
No, he is at 140. Oh, right, Tank. Tank Roach.
40:53
Yeah, I don't know... I don't know who I'd have
40:59
him fight next, I guess. Everybody's kind of
41:06
tied up in that division. Yeah, it'll be someone
41:10
in the top rank ecosystem. Yeah. As is tradition.
41:18
Top rank does put on, like, decent cards, but
41:23
everything's always really one -sided. They hardly
41:26
ever have, like, really close fights. Yeah, that's...
41:33
Not their forte. Their matchmaking is very protective
41:39
of their fighters. Yeah, that's what Josh calls
41:42
a top -rank protection system. Jared Anderson
41:49
was one who tried to break out of it. Thought
41:53
he was ready. He was not. He was not ready. I
42:07
think that's enough about those guys. What do
42:13
we got coming up, Leo? Oh, boy. It's just a treasure
42:18
trove of good honest -to -goodness fucking maple
42:26
leaf red, white, and blue and green boxing. Like,
42:35
just like mom used to make. What? I don't know.
42:41
I don't know what I was trying to do there. Trying
42:45
to make it, like, hometown -y, like, small -town
42:50
-y kind of feel. Maxie Hughes versus Archie Sharp.
42:56
And who's on this one? Oh, well, Terry Harper.
43:00
Terry Harper, yeah. Versus Natalia Zimmerman.
43:05
If that's what you think it is. She might get
43:10
the RJ tag. Yeah, I could see that. I also think
43:17
she's going to get her ass beat. I don't know.
43:26
Taryn probably seems really old to me, but she's
43:30
not. Yeah. This Zimmerman is 42. Yeah, and she
43:39
mostly fights in Germany. This is not about to
43:43
go well. No, she's going to get her ass kicked.
43:49
The closest an opponent has had to a winning
43:53
record for her is one and one. Yeah, it's not
43:59
good. tune in for a slaughter yeah yeah that's
44:11
not gonna be competitive this one this might
44:16
be one you could bet on a knockout in a women's
44:18
fight though yeah doesn't go the distance should
44:22
be good i should see what the uh what the odds
44:30
are on the not going the distance Oh, one that
44:37
does get the RJ tag, I assume, is Ebony Jones.
44:43
Oh, right. Forgot about her. Yeah, I don't know.
44:49
I've never heard of this lady she's fighting,
44:51
but... Ticey Gallagher? Is that like a women's
45:00
version of Tyson? I've never heard Ticey as a
45:04
name. I haven't either. Gallagher made me laugh
45:11
because of that TV show. Shameless. Aren't they
45:17
the Gallaghers? I couldn't tell you. She kind
45:25
of looks like she could be on that show. Anyways,
45:32
that one might be competitive. 6 -0 versus 9
45:38
-2 should be. Moving to Angelo Leo versus Tomoki
45:48
Kameda. I wanted to go to this one, and it's
45:52
just too far away on a Sunday. Would you have
45:59
to have taken the early morning? yeah it's in
46:05
Osaka so I would have to wake up and get like
46:08
the first bullet train and then try and get to
46:12
work so wake up at like 5 take the train for
46:17
3 hours get to my house and then go to work I
46:23
don't want to do that yeah but in uh Kind of
46:30
fun news. One of the guys from the bar is a trainer.
46:34
He has a boxing gym, and Angelo Leo's been coming
46:37
in and working out with some of his guys. So
46:40
he's got pictures and autographs and stuff. It's
46:43
kind of fun. That's cool. Probably put it up
46:47
on the wall. Probably, yeah. Kvade is getting
46:54
pretty old, though, isn't he? Mileage. He's not
46:58
that old. No. Age -wise. He's like 32? 33. But
47:06
he's been fighting for a while. Yeah. He's got
47:12
42 wins and 4 losses. That's a lot of fights.
47:18
Yeah, it is. He looks like an Osaka thug. In
47:26
an anime, in his box rec, he's got the hair and
47:29
stuff. Oh, the hooligan? Yeah, the kind of like
47:34
up and swooshed a little. Pompadour? Not that
47:38
bad, but... No, yeah, Tomoki doesn't have a pompadour,
47:42
but usually that's the hairstyle they have. Yeah,
47:46
yeah. I don't know, I assume Angelo Leo's gonna
47:52
win this one. Yeah. Just a good fight to put
47:56
on. It should be fun, though. Yeah. Well, hopefully.
48:04
Hopefully it's entertaining. I don't really recognize
48:11
these other two you have on here. Josh Taylor
48:14
and Echo Esserman? No, on this fight on your
48:19
calendar. Oh. I just put them on there. Jinjiro
48:22
Shigeoka. I feel like I've seen him before, but
48:26
I don't know who Pedro Tadurin is. I only picked
48:30
this one up because it's for a title. That's
48:34
really the only reason. Yeah. No, I wanted to
48:40
go to this one, but I just couldn't justify it
48:43
with the train tickets and everything. Hotel
48:45
room. Meh. It becomes expensive. Flying from
48:52
one end of Korea to the other, you could get...
48:56
There were flights that ran regularly for like
48:59
$75. And buses that ran for like $35. It's tourist
49:05
season here, though, now. Oh. So the price of
49:09
everything has jumped. Actually, the price of
49:13
things in Japan has just kind of jumped in general
49:15
in the last few months. I think I priced it out
49:19
and it would be about $400 in train tickets.
49:23
And I can usually find a hotel for like 50 bucks
49:26
if it's just a shit hotel. And then food and
49:31
stuff. It would have cost me like $700 to go
49:35
see this fight. I don't know if Angelo Leos versus
49:40
Tomoki Kameda is worth 700 bucks. No. No, I don't.
49:46
I don't think so. Nah, I'll probably go into
49:49
Tokyo and watch it on the TV with the guys. Spend
49:52
50 bucks instead. Yeah, that should be fun. Especially
49:57
if Kaneko comes, he'll be cheering for Leo, which
50:03
will be funny. The guy with the boxing gym. Well,
50:09
the Kamedas are Osaka boys, so wouldn't they
50:14
cheer against them anyway? It might be a little
50:17
split. Usually they just cheer for any Japanese
50:20
person if it's Japan versus someone else. Yeah.
50:24
But there will definitely be a few Leo fans if
50:28
people got to meet him. Yeah, they'll be the
50:35
gym faithful. Yeah, yeah. Are you going to be
50:41
on the Angelo Leo side? Yeah, for sure. I like
50:48
Leo. Him in his mop top. He looks like such a
50:59
stereotype, like just greasy Hispanic stereotype.
51:04
I could see him being real bad at picking up
51:07
women. No faith. Oh, I bet you it works, but
51:16
I just mean, like, real cheesy. I bet you he
51:21
can dance, though. All right, and Josh Taylor
51:29
is back. I miss this, mostly because I don't
51:33
care. Yeah, he's fighting at full 147, and it's...
51:39
I'm struggling to care as well. If I recall correctly,
51:45
the card isn't even very good. I do not recognize...
51:54
Oh, Moses Atalma's on it. Oh, that's right. Moses
51:58
Atalma. I always forget him. Versus Mike Belogan?
52:06
That's a weird name. Lee McGregor? Didn't we
52:18
see him in... We saw him in Saudi. And he put
52:21
on a hell of a fight. Yeah, he could be fun.
52:25
I don't know who... He's fighting Nathaniel Collins.
52:29
I don't recognize him. I don't either. There's
52:35
a lot of vacant bullshit belts on the line on
52:39
this card, it seems. The British... British Boxing
52:48
Board of Control. The Scottish Middle Region.
52:53
Regional title. The WBC Silver Feather. Josh
53:03
Taylor's fighting for something too. International
53:06
Welter. The WBO International Welterweight. Oh.
53:13
They just... Sound like bullshit things to me.
53:19
I don't know, I mean, I'll probably watch this
53:21
one, but I'm not excited about anything on this
53:25
card. Yeah, Moses Atalma, that's about it. The
53:32
guy he's fighting is 21 -1. That's a decent record,
53:37
but I don't know who he is, so I assume Atalma's
53:41
gonna win. Yeah, he's been inactive. He would
53:52
take like one fight a year. For a while. One
54:01
loss to Murat Gassiev. That's a decent name,
54:07
I guess. Ish. Kinda. Could be worse. Yeah, this
54:20
week's not looking super exciting. I'm excited
54:23
for the Leo Kameda card, I guess. Yeah, it's
54:28
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.net. So, we're heading into a pretty bleak week.
55:54
Well, it's bleak on this side just because the
55:56
only good card is going to be at like 1 in the
55:59
morning on Saturday. Yeah. I'll get to go into
56:08
Tokyo and have a day. Should be fun. Otherwise,
56:16
it's a rather bleak weekend. Parting words. What
56:20
do you got? I forgot to think up some parting
56:24
words. I'm not going to mention the NHL because
56:29
that blew up in my face last time. Fucking dumbasses.
56:36
Uh, parting words. Don't forget to brush your
56:39
teeth. I've been grinding my teeth really bad
56:44
because I was sick and they hurt. Oh, mine are
56:48
usually pretty sore. I have one of the mouth
56:53
guard things and it really does help a lot, but
56:56
when I decide to really grind my teeth, it doesn't
57:00
matter. What about you, Leo? What are your parting
57:09
words? Man, I've chewed through every shield
57:14
that they've tried to give me. I've just royally
57:17
fucked it up. Yeah, they usually last me about
57:21
two years, and then I completely snap off the
57:24
backs. My parting words from my favorite author,
57:31
Alexandre Dumas. All human wisdom is summed up
57:35
in two words. Wait and hope. So this weekend
57:39
might suck. But you just gotta keep just wait
57:43
it out. Can't stop time. Very hopeful. Time is
57:50
a bitch. Terrible one. But that is it. Sun's
58:02
going down. I gotta get the Mars Discovery rover.
58:10
It's getting dark. That's too sad. Why do humans
58:16
do shit like that? Yeah. I'm trying to remember
58:26
what exactly it said, but yeah, it was a little
58:29
robot. telling you like hey I'm dying by the
58:32
way yeah after it lived like 10 years longer
58:38
than it was supposed to I can find it yeah it's
58:49
last data transmission was my battery is low
58:52
and it is getting dark and he used to sing himself
58:59
Happy birthday. Yep. Oh, fuck. You got me sad
59:05
over a robot. Ridiculous. Well, you there. Are
59:13
you sad about robots? 833 -589 -7637. It's very
59:18
topical for Boxing Before Dark. Oh, I do have
59:22
parting words. I... I missed it last time because
59:26
I didn't realize how much shit the guys were
59:28
talking. I listened to B -Sides while I was working
59:31
and missed all the hate on my calls. What the
59:35
fuck? I told you guys Raleigh was going to beat
59:38
Ryan. Nobody believed me. They were talking about
59:44
how crazy it was. Absolutely ridiculous. I need
59:49
to send Josh my address so I can get my flowers.
1:00:01
Are they going to move through Canadian Post
1:00:03
now? Flowers? Yeah. I just assumed he would order
1:00:09
them in Japan and have them delivered. Oh, yeah.
1:00:14
Why would you order them in Canada? Why would
1:00:17
you try to mail flowers from Canada? That makes
1:00:21
perfect sense. Fucking brilliant. Go me. Speaking
1:00:29
of deliveries, I'm fucking being so lazy. I ordered
1:00:35
five kilograms of rice carried to my door so
1:00:38
I didn't have to carry it from the store. And
1:00:41
I was like, well, if they're delivering rice,
1:00:42
they might as well deliver beer too. So I ordered
1:00:45
24 cans of the Sapporo with the Attack on Titan
1:00:49
branding. It's going to be great. Are you going
1:00:54
to save one of each? Probably not, no. I have
1:01:02
been trying to drink less, so I've only been
1:01:04
buying six beer at a time. Having 24 in the house
1:01:07
might go off the rails. Hopefully on a weekend.
1:01:14
Is this a Canadianism to say, I think it's, I'm
1:01:19
done with beer? Oh, no. So those are two different
1:01:24
things. I'm done my beer, and I'm done with...
1:01:28
I'm done my beer means you've finished it. But
1:01:32
if you say I'm done with my beer, it still has
1:01:35
beer in it. You just don't want it anymore. Okay.
1:01:39
Do Americans not say I'm done? Like I'm done
1:01:42
my dinner? No. I'm done with my dinner. Even
1:01:48
if you've eaten it all? Yeah. No, no. If you're
1:01:53
done with it, it's still there. I'm done my dinner?
1:02:00
Yeah. I have not heard that before. Before today.
1:02:03
Really? Huh. No, but those are two different
1:02:07
things. Being done a beer means you finished
1:02:09
it. Being done with a beer means you're just
1:02:12
not going to finish it. Like, I'm, well, I mean,
1:02:19
you sound a little redneck -y when you use it,
1:02:23
but I'm done my book. means you finished it.
1:02:26
I'm done with this book. It's like, this book
1:02:28
sucks. I see. Yeah. Like, I'm done with the fucking
1:02:35
Maple Leaf blowing leads all the time. So would
1:02:39
we say we're done with podcasts? I'm done with
1:02:45
podcasts? I'm done my podcasts. Well, we're done
1:02:51
this podcast. We're done this podcast. But if
1:02:53
you're done... with podcasts you're not gonna
1:02:55
make anymore that's not what's happening damn
1:02:58
no yeah yeah no yeah we're done this episode
1:03:02
okay yeah i'm gonna get that one i'm gonna learn
1:03:06
learn to use it properly all right if you finish
1:03:11
something it's done if you're done with something
1:03:14
you don't want to do it anymore finish you yeah
1:03:19
yeah If you're done with it, part of it still
1:03:22
exists, but you're not interacting anymore. Well,
1:03:29
on that lovely note of Canadianisms, boxing before
1:03:35
dark. My batteries are low, and it's getting
1:03:41
dark. Yeah, we need the... What? What was the
1:03:50
video game? Portal. You need the Portal voice.
1:03:54
Oh, the cake. Saying that. Yeah, yeah. I used
1:03:59
to love to do that.