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Face masks made ‘little to no difference’ in preventing spread of COVID · The Ben Ferguson Podcast

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Speaker 1: Fauci got it wrong on masks. How do we know
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Speaker 1: this now? Not because I say so, not because you
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Speaker 1: may have thought he was wrong, But we now have
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Speaker 1: been told that quote face masks made little to no
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Speaker 1: difference and preventing the spread of COVID Scientific Review now
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Speaker 1: fines Now, before I get into the CDC and how
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Speaker 1: big they screwed this up again, little to no difference
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Speaker 1: in preventing the spread of COVID these masks. I also
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Speaker 1: want to tell you about another story that's breaking, and
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Speaker 1: I'm going to get to this later, but I wanted
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Speaker 1: to let you know I'm not overlooking this. The ex
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Speaker 1: Intel chief James Clapper has now been ripped for changing
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Speaker 1: his tune on the Hunter Biden laptop. Now he is angry,
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Speaker 1: James Clapper attacking Politico, saying they deliberately quote distorted the
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Speaker 1: letter that flagged Hunter by laptop as Russian. Different disinformation
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Speaker 1: by those fifty plus signees in the intel eligence community.
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Speaker 1: I will deal with a story in a moment. Okay,
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Speaker 1: So again, this is obviously very big breaking news. Now
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Speaker 1: before we deal with that, let's go back to the tape.
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Speaker 1: Let's go back to the headline that we have, all right,
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Speaker 1: little no difference these masks and the spread of COVID.
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Speaker 1: All right, well, let's go to a guy by the
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Speaker 1: name of doctor Fauci. What did doctor Fauci say about
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Speaker 1: these masks? Here is doctor Fauci back in twenty twenty,
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Speaker 1: right before Christmas. Well, first thing, it's not going to
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Speaker 1: be like turning a light switch on and off. It's
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Speaker 1: not going to be overnight. It's going to be gradually.
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Speaker 1: And I think we will know when we see the
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Speaker 1: level of infection in the country at a dramatically lower
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Speaker 1: level than it is right now, that we can start
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Speaker 1: gradually tiptoeing towards normality. I don't believe we're going to
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Speaker 1: be able to throw the masks away and forget about
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Speaker 1: physical separation and congrete settings for a while, probably likely
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Speaker 1: until we get into the late fall and early next winter.
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Speaker 1: But I think we can do it. Wow, that's not
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Speaker 1: what they just said today, is it? Face, masks made
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Speaker 1: little to no difference. Now it was doctor Faucci willing
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Speaker 1: to listen to anybody else. Absolutely not doctor Fauci again
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Speaker 1: on c at N. This was several months later, actually
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Speaker 1: a year later, when he said this in twenty twenty one.
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Speaker 1: This was in September of last year. You know, there's
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Speaker 1: the immediate thing that one can do, and that is
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Speaker 1: in mitigation, for example, mask wearing, particularly among I mean,
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Speaker 1: obviously those people who are not vaccinated, you'd be wearing
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Speaker 1: a mask. But in indoor settings, when you're in an area,
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Speaker 1: which is almost the entire country in which there's a
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Speaker 1: high degree of iral dynamics, you should wear a mask.
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Speaker 1: We need to do that. That's the immediate thing that
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Speaker 1: one needs to do. Avoid congregate settings, particularly indoor. But
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Speaker 1: in the intermediate and longer term, it's going to be vaccines.
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Speaker 1: They're going to solve this problem. Will this there's in
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Speaker 1: two thousand and twenty one, just last September when he
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Speaker 1: said that. Now, he also continued to go out there
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Speaker 1: and say over and over and over and over again,
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Speaker 1: you must wear a mask. Doctor Fauci said he wears
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Speaker 1: a mask in public as a symbol, remember, a symbol
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Speaker 1: that he cares about you. This was back in twenty
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Speaker 1: twenty in the summer. Now understood, Okay, as you know,
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Speaker 1: all fifty states are opening to some degree, some variants
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Speaker 1: within that, but taking steps across the country as they open,
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Speaker 1: wearing masks is recommended for people to help reduce the spread.
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Speaker 1: In your view, doesn't make a difference to encourage that
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Speaker 1: when public servants set an example by wearing a mask
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Speaker 1: as you often do you when you appear in public. Now, no, no,
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Speaker 1: this is a symbolic thing now, right, they're not even
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Speaker 1: saying this is based in science. Well, it's a symbolic
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Speaker 1: thing that leaders do. Right. This is all about, well,
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Speaker 1: you need to be a leader. You need to understand
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Speaker 1: what it means to be a leader. This is how
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Speaker 1: you become a leader. And if you are a leader,
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Speaker 1: you wear a mask because a symbolic reason. So we're
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Speaker 1: we were already changing the science in twenty twenty, but
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Speaker 1: then we went back to no, no, it's saving lives
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Speaker 1: that later in twenty twenty, and then all the way
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Speaker 1: through twenty twenty one, and now again I go back
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Speaker 1: before you hear Fauci push this propaganda to the newest
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Speaker 1: headline quote face masks made it made little to no
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Speaker 1: difference in preventing the spread of COVID Scientific review fines. Now,
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna give you the details of how they found
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Speaker 1: this in a second. But again doctor Fauci saying it's
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Speaker 1: symbolic that you're a leader to wear the mask. Well, Jim,
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Speaker 1: I think we certainly should be recommending it. I mean,
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Speaker 1: as you know, I wear it whenever I'm outside, and
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Speaker 1: we can try and keep the usual distance, but sometimes
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Speaker 1: it's out of your control. So there are some fundamental
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Speaker 1: things that we can do we're very aware of insensitive
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Speaker 1: to the need to try and make those steps towards reopening.
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Speaker 1: But there are certain things that you can do and
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Speaker 1: still do as you're reopening. One of them is wearing
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Speaker 1: a mask. The other is avoiding crowds of more than
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Speaker 1: ten people, depending upon where you are and where the
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Speaker 1: dynamics of the outbreak are. The other is continuing to
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Speaker 1: wash your hands, which is important, you know. And those
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Speaker 1: kinds of things are simple, they're easy to do, and
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Speaker 1: I think one can do that at the same time
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Speaker 1: as you're gradually trying to get to the point of
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Speaker 1: doing a reopening. And I think those are the things
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Speaker 1: that everybody should seriously consider doing. Do you think when
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Speaker 1: folks members of the public are being asked to do
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Speaker 1: this and they look at folks like you doing it,
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Speaker 1: does that encourage it's used to a positive degree. No,
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Speaker 1: it does, Jim and I mean I wear it for
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Speaker 1: the reason that I leave it is effective. It is,
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Speaker 1: it's not one hundred percent effective. I mean it's sort
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Speaker 1: of respect for another person and have that other person
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Speaker 1: respect you. You wear a mask, they wear a mask.
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Speaker 1: You protect each other. I mean I do it when
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Speaker 1: I'm in the public for the reasons that A. I
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Speaker 1: want to protect myself and protect others, and also because
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Speaker 1: I want to make it be a symbol for people
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Speaker 1: to see that that's the kind of thing you should
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Speaker 1: be doing. Yeah, it's it's symbolic, right, you need to
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Speaker 1: do this for symbolic reasons. It's important. So let's go
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Speaker 1: back to the study. Now. The stance by the CDC
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Speaker 1: on face masks has taken many twists and turns throughout
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Speaker 1: the COVID pandemic. After initially claiming face coverings weren't necessary,
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Speaker 1: the CDC then change course in April of twenty twenty,
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Speaker 1: calling on all Americans, even children as young at two
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Speaker 1: years old, to mask up. That's when the horrific videos
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Speaker 1: started being published of kids who were being kicked off
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Speaker 1: of flights two year olds because they wouldn't wear quote
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Speaker 1: their masks properly. Remember that that's when people actually got on.
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Speaker 1: They do not fly of airlines because they couldn't control
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Speaker 1: a two year old with a mask, which was also absurd.
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Speaker 1: That September of twenty twenty, the CDC director said during
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Speaker 1: a Senate hearing that quote face masks are the most
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Speaker 1: important powerful health tool we have, even suggesting that they
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Speaker 1: might offer more protection than vaccines. Those recommendations likely played
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Speaker 1: a large part in thirty nine US states enacting mask mandates. Now,
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Speaker 1: a scientific review suggests the widespread masking may have done
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Speaker 1: little or nothing to curb the transmission of COVID nineteen
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Speaker 1: in the US and around the world. The review, titled
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Speaker 1: Physical Interventions to Interrupt or Reduce the Spread of Respiratory Viruses,
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Speaker 1: was led by twelve top researchers coming from esteemed universities
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Speaker 1: around the world. Was published this last week, and the
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Speaker 1: review dug into the findings of seventy eight randomized controlled
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Speaker 1: trials to determine whether physical interventions, including face masks and
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Speaker 1: handwashing washing less than the spread of respiratory viruses. When
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Speaker 1: comparing the use of medical and surgical masks to wearing
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Speaker 1: no mask, the review found that wearing a mask may
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Speaker 1: make little to no difference in how many people caught
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Speaker 1: a flu like illness COVID like illness nine studies two
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Speaker 1: hundred and seventy six thousand, nine hundred and seventeen people.
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Speaker 1: That's a lot. It's a large sample size and probably
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Speaker 1: make little or no difference in how many people have
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Speaker 1: COVID or the flu confirmed by a laboratory tests. The
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Speaker 1: six studies had thirteen thousand, nine hundred and nineteen people. Again,
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Speaker 1: this is a significant sample size. Next, the review compared
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Speaker 1: medical slash surgical masks to IN ninety five respirators or
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Speaker 1: P two respirators, which are used in Europe. It found
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Speaker 1: that wearing an IN ninety five slash P two respiratory
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Speaker 1: probably makes again listen carefully, little to no difference in
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Speaker 1: how many people have confirmed flu. Five studies eight hundred,
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Speaker 1: eight thousand, excuse me, four hundred and seven people were
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Speaker 1: in that study. Again, large sample size and may make
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Speaker 1: little to no difference. These are the N ninety five
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Speaker 1: now at mask and how many people catch a flu
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Speaker 1: like illness. There were five different studies eight thousand, four
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Speaker 1: hundred and seven people or respiratory illness. There were three
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Speaker 1: studies involved with that seven thousand, seven hundred nine nine people.
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Speaker 1: And I keep giving you the number of participants because
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Speaker 1: it's important you understand how large these sample sizes were.
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Speaker 1: Coming from the best research universities in the world. These
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Speaker 1: seventy eight studies looked at participants from countries of all
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Speaker 1: income levels. Data was gathered during the H one N
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Speaker 1: one flu pandemic and OH nine non epidemic flu seasons,
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Speaker 1: epidemic flu seasons up to twenty sixteen, and the COVID
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Speaker 1: nineteen pandemic. The study authors wrote, so how did we
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Speaker 1: get it so wrong? Could it be because we had
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Speaker 1: a psycho that wanted total power over you and was
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Speaker 1: obsessed with wearing mask. You wearing mask telling you that
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Speaker 1: a mask. Wearing a mask is a symbol, and it
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Speaker 1: is important that you have that symbol. Never forget Doctor
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Speaker 1: Fauci made it clear that if you love people, you
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Speaker 1: why did doctor Fauci continue to go on TV and
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Speaker 1: advocating with the NIH board behind him as the America's
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Speaker 1: top doctor, the highest paid federal employee, why did he
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Speaker 1: keep going on TV and advocating for masks mandates. I'll
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Speaker 1: tell you why. It was for total power happen. We
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Speaker 1: can we have control of this. We can do things
12:35
Speaker 1: that could turn that around. So I understand you know
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Speaker 1: you're you, you don't want to wait into politics. But
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Speaker 1: masks are not political, right, They shouldn't be political, right,
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Speaker 1: And we know we see the president these rallies and
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Speaker 1: people don't wear masks, and Joe Biden does have a
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Speaker 1: really different plan right, and today talked about it and
12:53
Speaker 1: he specifically talked about making mask wearing mandatory. Here's how
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Speaker 1: he put it. First, I'll go to every governor urge
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Speaker 1: them to mandate mask wearing in their states, and if
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Speaker 1: they refuse, I'll go to the mayors and county executives
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Speaker 1: and get local masking requirements in place nationwide. He also
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Speaker 1: wants to make masks mandatory federal buildings, interstate transportation. Do
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Speaker 1: you think this is a good idea? Is this what
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Speaker 1: a president of the United States would be helpful if
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Speaker 1: they were doing fighting for mask mandates well, you know,
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Speaker 1: one of the issues that people that talk about mandating
13:31
Speaker 1: not be a good idea because then they'll say they
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Speaker 1: have to enforce it, and this is going to be
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Speaker 1: a difficulty enforcing it. But if everyone agrees that this
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Speaker 1: is something that's important and they mandated, and everybody pulls
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Speaker 1: together and say, you know, we're going to mandate it,
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Speaker 1: but let's just do it, I think that would be
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Speaker 1: a great idea to have everybody do it uniformly. One
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Speaker 1: of the issues, though, I get the arguments say, well,
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Speaker 1: if you mandate a mask, then you're going to have
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Speaker 1: to enforce it, and that'll create more of a problem. Well,
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Speaker 1: if people are not wearing masks, then maybe we should
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Speaker 1: be mandating it. So in other words, but it sounds
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Speaker 1: like what you're saying is sort of the power of
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Speaker 1: the commons, but you're gonna have some people who don't
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Speaker 1: wear them. You only need to have a certain amount,
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Speaker 1: and a mandate could get you there, right, even if
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Speaker 1: you don't have enforcement, right, right, So exactly, Okay? So
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Speaker 1: I mean is this was a total psychopath that was
14:24
Speaker 1: obsessed with undermining Donald Trump. Remember he was supposed to
14:27
Speaker 1: be serving under Donald Trump. He's obviously advocating at that
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Speaker 1: moment and supporting Joe Biden's run for the presidency, saying
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Speaker 1: it's going to save lives. He's in favor of mass mandates.
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Speaker 1: He was advocating for the policy that was clearly just
14:41
Speaker 1: stated right there, right, he was advocating for the policy
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Speaker 1: of the administration of Joe Biden. Joe Biden's out there
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Speaker 1: saying I'm in favor of mass mandates, and if governors
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Speaker 1: won't do it, I'll go around them. I'll go to
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Speaker 1: the late state and local officials. Right, I'll go to
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Speaker 1: the local health guys and tell them to do the
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Speaker 1: mass mandates, and we're going to get this thing done.
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Speaker 1: And that's what Democrats did all over the country. That's
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Speaker 1: what they were advocating for. All right, Let's go back
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Speaker 1: to the study. The new findings seem to call in
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Speaker 1: a question the CDC's enthusiastic embrace of widespread masking. Doctor
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Speaker 1: Mark Siegel, professor of medicine at NYU and a Fox
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Speaker 1: News medical contributor, pointed out a key limitation, saying the
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Speaker 1: researchers focused primary on randomized trials, but most of the
15:31
Speaker 1: studies have been done on mass are population studies there
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Speaker 1: are very few randomized trials on MASK, he said. In
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Speaker 1: a randomized trial, researchers places participants in different groups and
15:42
Speaker 1: observe the results in controlled environments. He said, By contrast,
15:45
Speaker 1: population based studies measure outcome in a real world setting.
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Speaker 1: So again, he's even trying to give some benefit of
15:53
Speaker 1: the doubt that, okay, maybe it had a little bit
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Speaker 1: of an impact, so whether the study authors say. The
15:59
Speaker 1: study authors did admit to some limitations and risk of bias,
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Speaker 1: including the low number of people who followed mass guidance
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Speaker 1: and the wide variations of outcome, saying the results might
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Speaker 1: change when further evidence becomes available. However, if you're going
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Speaker 1: to mandate something, you'd have to be sure of consistency
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Speaker 1: across the population, and that's never happened, so that's the problem.
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Speaker 1: Physicians also pointed out that the CDC never actually mandated MASK,
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Speaker 1: with the exception of public transportation mandates in January of
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Speaker 1: twenty twenty on planes, it was a state and local
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Speaker 1: authorities that took the CDC recommendations and implemented the mandates.
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Speaker 1: The recommendations may have been wrong, but the CDC doesn't
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Speaker 1: deserve the blame for everything. I think they were aware
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Speaker 1: that masks may have value on a personal basis, but
16:51
Speaker 1: they get carried away with the politics quote unquote, and
16:56
Speaker 1: just so you know how psycho the left is. As
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Speaker 1: of right now, there are no US states that have
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Speaker 1: mass mandates in place. However, on Sunday, New York City
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Speaker 1: finally this just happened on Sunday, dropped it statewide mass
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Speaker 1: mandate in hospitals, leaving the decision up to the individual facilities,
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Speaker 1: and many healthcare facilities are currently still requiring them in hospitals.
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Speaker 1: Many believe so that you'll just feel safer and it's
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Speaker 1: a warm hug when you walk in from your hot
17:24
Speaker 1: breath coming back in your face. Now again, I'm all
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Speaker 1: in favor of following the science, but what we learn
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Speaker 1: now is for three plus years you had an obsession
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Speaker 1: by these psychopaths to force you to wear a mask,
17:45
Speaker 1: no matter what to tell you that if you didn't
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Speaker 1: wear a mask, that you were basically killing people. And
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Speaker 1: when states drop their masks mandates, what did doctor foul?
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Speaker 1: What do you say? He said, you're inviting another surge,
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Speaker 1: condemning those states. Listen carefully here when you see Texas
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Speaker 1: lifting its max mandates, when you see pictures from Idaho
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Speaker 1: of kids burning masks and the same being called for
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Speaker 1: in Texas, what's your reaction to that? You know, it's
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Speaker 1: it's concerned, John. I mean, we understand people's need to
18:23
Speaker 1: get back to normal, and we are going in that direction.
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Speaker 1: But when you stop doing things like completely putting aside
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Speaker 1: all public health measures as if you're turning a light
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Speaker 1: switch off, that's quite risky. We don't want to see
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Speaker 1: another surge, and that's inviting one. When you do that,
18:41
Speaker 1: it's inviting a surge. Right, You're stupid to burn those masks.
18:45
Speaker 1: You're stupid to stand up and say and to act
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Speaker 1: like you are above wearing a mask. He also continued
18:56
Speaker 1: to attack Texas, dropping just by the know, you know,
19:00
Speaker 1: he was saying, how dare you do this? Lit'sten to Texas.
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Speaker 1: This was after the numbers start to come in, and
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Speaker 1: Fauci on the Texas number said this, it's back to life.
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Speaker 1: And if you go to Texas as you know, it
19:12
Speaker 1: looks like twenty nineteen. The restaurants and the bars are
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Speaker 1: full and open, the ballparks are full, and yet we've
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Speaker 1: seen cases in hospitalization since then continue to tick downward.
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Speaker 1: So what do you make of that as all of
19:25
Speaker 1: us look around and sort of try to consider how
19:27
Speaker 1: safe it is to get back to normal life. Yeah,
19:31
Speaker 1: you know, it's it can be confusing because you may
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Speaker 1: see a lag and a delay because often you have
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Speaker 1: to wait a few weeks before you see the effect
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Speaker 1: of what you're doing right now. You know, there are
19:44
Speaker 1: a lot of things that go into that. I mean,
19:47
Speaker 1: when you say that they've they've had a lot of
19:51
Speaker 1: activity on the outside, like ball games, I'm not really
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Speaker 1: quite sure. It could be they're doing things outdoors. You know,
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Speaker 1: it's very difficult to just one on one hear that.
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Speaker 1: You just have to see in the long range. I
20:03
Speaker 1: hope they continue to tick down. If they do, that
20:06
Speaker 1: would be great, But there's always the concern when you
20:09
Speaker 1: pull back on methods, particularly things like indoor dining and
20:14
Speaker 1: bars that are crowded, you can see a delay and
20:16
Speaker 1: then all of a sudden tick right back up. I
20:20
Speaker 1: love how this was described by Fauci there right on
20:22
Speaker 1: these Texas numbers. He's basically angry that Texas defied him,
20:27
Speaker 1: and Texas opened back up early and took the mass
20:30
Speaker 1: mandates off early, and what happened when that happened. He
20:35
Speaker 1: didn't like it, and they were furious that they were
20:38
Speaker 1: being proven wrong. In real time. You could hear it
20:42
Speaker 1: there on MSNBC. The numbers are down, things are better,
20:46
Speaker 1: things are going well, it's happening, right, these all these
20:50
Speaker 1: things are good. Well, but we hope it goes out,
20:53
Speaker 1: but it may backfire on them. You notice how fouch
20:57
Speaker 1: you and all these others are refusing to admit they
20:59
Speaker 1: were wrong. And I think that's incredibly stupid. The reason
21:02
Speaker 1: why I say I think that's very stupid is for
21:04
Speaker 1: this reason, there is going to be another public health emergency.
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Speaker 1: And when it happens, no one's going to listen to
21:09
Speaker 1: the public health authorities because they're never going to believe them,
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Speaker 1: and they're going to think that they are totally full
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Speaker 1: out on Hunter Biden. James Clapper has come out and
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Speaker 1: he's furious right now. He's the ex Intel chief who
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Speaker 1: is ripped, has been ripped over the last twenty four
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Speaker 1: hours for changing the Hunter Biden laptop tune. He is
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Speaker 1: not happy, folks. Former Director of National Intelligence James Clapper,
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Speaker 1: all right, has been slammed for claiming that Politico quote
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Speaker 1: deliberately distorted a letter he's signed that characterize the New
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Speaker 1: York Post reporting on the Hunter Biden laptop as part
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Speaker 1: of a Russian disinformation operation days before the twenty twenty election. A.
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Speaker 1: Clapper wasn't alone. James Clapper and fifty other significant, very
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Speaker 1: notable members of the intelligence community approved the letter, questioning
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Speaker 1: the veracity of the postix exclusive that they published in
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Speaker 1: October of twenty twenty about the first son's shady overseas
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Speaker 1: business relationship. The letter was leaked to Politico, widely picked
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Speaker 1: up by other national media outlets. And eventually used as
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Speaker 1: campaign fodder by then presidential the candidate Joe Biden. It
24:19
Speaker 1: was clear that the deep state turned on Donald Trump
24:21
Speaker 1: and they were going to give the cover needed to
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Speaker 1: make sure that people didn't get to see the facts,
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Speaker 1: or read or share the story. We know the deep
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Speaker 1: state went to work. We know that Twitter and Facebook
24:31
Speaker 1: limit the reach of the story and shut it down.
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Speaker 1: We know all of us on the Twitter files and
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Speaker 1: from Mark Zuckerberg at Facebook's own conversation that he had
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Speaker 1: on this story about Facebook when he was on Joe
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Speaker 1: Rogan's podcast Now. James Clapper told the Washington Post this week, quote,
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Speaker 1: there was message distortion in the initial reporting on the letter.
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Speaker 1: This is what a scumbag deep stater would say. All
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Speaker 1: we were doing was raised in quote a yellow flag
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Speaker 1: that this could be Russian disinformation. Politico quote deliberately distorted
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Speaker 1: what we said. It was clear in paragraph five. Clapper
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Speaker 1: then said, in this new meat culpa, trying to fix
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Speaker 1: the narrative years after the fact, journalists who have long
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Speaker 1: criticized the letter weren't buying his explanation. Quote if James Clapper,
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Speaker 1: new Politico and the reporter Natasha Bertrand were lying about
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Speaker 1: what their letter said. Why didn't they say so? Then?
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Speaker 1: Pultry Prize winner Glenn Greenwald posted on Twitter on Monday,
25:35
Speaker 1: there were others who said the story again, if they
25:38
Speaker 1: had a problem with it, they should have told the truth.
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Speaker 1: Here was another headline hunter Biden's story is Russian disinfo.
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Speaker 1: Dozens of former Intel officials say that was a headline
25:49
Speaker 1: has since moved on to CNN. The person who wrote
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Speaker 1: that headline at the time, where she covers the White
25:55
Speaker 1: House with a focus on national security from Politico. So again,
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Speaker 1: they're still lying to you the reality, Greenwald continued, The
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Speaker 1: CIA slash Intelligence community people a lot. We're lying. They lying,
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Speaker 1: and they won the media to spread this lie. Only
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Speaker 1: now that someone has to take the hit, is Clapper
26:14
Speaker 1: saying Politico lie to you instead of them. Clapper's claim
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Speaker 1: that he was quote unaware the Biden that Biden brought
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Speaker 1: up the letter in his final debate with former President
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Speaker 1: Donald Trump called the Post story a bunch of garbage
26:28
Speaker 1: also elicited skepticism about what he's now claiming. Quote. Clapper,
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Speaker 1: of course, didn't complain about the political headline at the time,
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Speaker 1: even even though Biden cited the distorted article during a
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Speaker 1: debate with Trump, which Clapper laughably now claims he didn't
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Speaker 1: know about. Really, you're the center of this whole entire controversy.
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Speaker 1: You come out with this letter, you put it out
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Speaker 1: in the media. There's the final debate, remember debates. The
26:56
Speaker 1: debates changed because of COVID and all that crap and
26:59
Speaker 1: the masks, and so there's this foul debate. Clearly it
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Speaker 1: comes up, and James Klapper like, oh, I didn't know
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Speaker 1: it came up. I didn't know they talked about it.
27:05
Speaker 1: I didn't know they talked about my letter. I had
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Speaker 1: no idea that they were distorting what I said. Biden
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Speaker 1: also cited the letter in that sixty minutes interview in
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Speaker 1: October before the election, calling the report part of a
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Speaker 1: smear campaign. Other media outlets also ran with a political
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Speaker 1: story repeating the claims of Russian disinformation coming from Clapper
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Speaker 1: and the other fifty individuals that signed the letter. In fact,
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Speaker 1: Adam Schiff, then the chair of the House Intelligence Committee,
27:33
Speaker 1: seized on the political reporting in an interview that he
27:36
Speaker 1: also did about it on CNN, where he said, quote, well,
27:39
Speaker 1: we know that this whole smear on Joe Biden comes
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Speaker 1: from the Kremlin. Clearly the origins of this whole smear
27:48
Speaker 1: are from the Kremlin, he again reiterated. At the same
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Speaker 1: time in that interview, Greenwall blasted the media for transforming
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Speaker 1: the claim by Clapper and others into facts, saying, quote,
28:00
Speaker 1: the CIA and other intelligence operative scumbags have a point here,
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Speaker 1: one I've stressed from the start. In their letter to
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Speaker 1: manipulate the election. They said they didn't know it was
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Speaker 1: Russian disinformation. They just thought it was. It was quote
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Speaker 1: the media that transformed it into fact. He said, I
28:21
Speaker 1: don't care who is bored by it. Two weeks before
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Speaker 1: Americans went to vote for president, the CIA and others
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Speaker 1: in the intelligence community concoct an outright lie that most
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Speaker 1: media outlets, most major media outlets and corporations spread. Everyone
28:38
Speaker 1: now knows it's a lie, but not one of the
28:40
Speaker 1: media outlets has retracted their story. Cash Patel, who worked
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Speaker 1: the Trump administration, told Fox News that the American public
28:48
Speaker 1: deserves an explanation from all of these news outlets. One
28:53
Speaker 1: this Congress should subpoena at least the leadership structure of
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Speaker 1: those fifty one people, those that serve just directors and
29:00
Speaker 1: deputy directors of our intelligence agency and law enforcement community,
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Speaker 1: and just say why didn't you make why did you
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Speaker 1: make this statement? Why did you sign this letter? What
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Speaker 1: was the bait? Are you the former director of the CIA?
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Speaker 1: Certainly someone sent you intelligence for you to sign on
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Speaker 1: to this, and what was the intelligence who put the
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Speaker 1: fifty people together? These are all basic questions that the
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Speaker 1: media quote should be asking. They're not, though. Early this month,
29:26
Speaker 1: by the way, the House Judiciary Intelligence committees are now
29:29
Speaker 1: demanding interviews with James Clapper and eleven other letters that
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Speaker 1: signed on to this, a fact noted by Senator Roger Marshall,
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Speaker 1: a Republican, this week. Marshall wrote on Twitter quote in
29:44
Speaker 1: October twenty twenty, Politico us a letter signed by fifty
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Speaker 1: plus former Intel officials to labor the Hunter by the
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Speaker 1: Laptop story as Russian disinformation. Now the Judiciary Committee Chairman
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Speaker 1: Jim Jordan's requesting interviews and letter signer James Clapper is
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Speaker 1: changing as two to his tune two years too late.
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Speaker 1: That's the only reason why. Now he's trying to change
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Speaker 1: all of this, trying to act like, oh, they took
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Speaker 1: me out of context. Oh I didn't meet it that way,
30:13
Speaker 1: Oh that was that was totally different than what I
30:15
Speaker 1: thought it was going to be. Let me remind you
30:18
Speaker 1: of what happened in October of twenty twenty. In October
30:22
Speaker 1: of twenty twenty, MSNBC led with this news story to
30:27
Speaker 1: make sure that you weren't bamboozled right by this intelligence.
30:34
Speaker 1: Here is part of that story from October of twenty twenty.
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Speaker 1: Fifty former intelligence officials signed on to a letter yesterday
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Speaker 1: saying that the New York Post story about Hunter Biden's
30:45
Speaker 1: emails has quote all of the classic earmarks of a
30:48
Speaker 1: Russian disinformation campaigns, And to me, this is this classic
30:54
Speaker 1: textbook Soviet Russian tradecraft at work. Really, Giuliani was not
31:01
Speaker 1: fed passively Russian disinformation. He ordered off the menu. He
31:06
Speaker 1: demanded it be brought to him. The letters signatories spanned
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Speaker 1: four administrations, including the current one, and include former CIA
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Speaker 1: directors John Brennan, Michael Haydn, and Leon Panetta. So here
31:18
Speaker 1: you have a willing target, and the Russians are very
31:22
Speaker 1: sophisticated about how to exploit a willing target. And to me,
31:27
Speaker 1: that's what's it work here. So this looks like Russian intelligence,
31:31
Speaker 1: This walks like Russian intelligence, This sounds like Russian intelligence
31:35
Speaker 1: that their collective national security experience makes them quote deeply
31:39
Speaker 1: suspicious that the Russian government played a significant role in
31:42
Speaker 1: this case, and suggests that Russia is trying to influence
31:46
Speaker 1: how Americans vote in this election. Do you think stuff
31:50
Speaker 1: like that could just have been planted in there and
31:51
Speaker 1: be completely fake? I do. Every intelligence professional I've been
31:55
Speaker 1: talking to Mika says this is a Russian intelligence disinformation campaign.
32:00
Speaker 1: There it is, right. I mean, it's very clear. You
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Speaker 1: had James Clapper voice that you heard, and there went
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Speaker 1: three four times. They knew they were lying back then,
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Speaker 1: and they knew they were trying to influence the outcome
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Speaker 1: of an election. Back then. They knew that what they
32:14
Speaker 1: were doing was important. And the X Intel chief James
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Speaker 1: Clapper now saying I'm mad as hell they took me
32:20
Speaker 1: out of context. Bull crap. You knew that you were
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Speaker 1: being used to win an election. You knew that your
32:27
Speaker 1: misinformation was going to alter the way that the media
32:31
Speaker 1: actually covered this story. You knew all of that, and
32:35
Speaker 1: you ran with it because you didn't want Donald Trump
32:38
Speaker 1: to stay president of the United States of America. You
32:40
Speaker 1: didn't want Donald Trump to be able to drain the swamp.
32:44
Speaker 1: That's what you did not want to happen here. Now, Lastly,
32:49
Speaker 1: the most important point that I'm gonna make is this
32:52
Speaker 1: Congress needs to make sure they don't screw this up. Okay,
32:57
Speaker 1: Congress needs to really make sure that what they do
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Speaker 1: is obvious. What they need to what Congress needs to
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Speaker 1: understand is they have an obligation now. In my opinion,
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Speaker 1: they have a duty now to do their job the
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Speaker 1: right way and to answer the questions the way that
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Speaker 1: these questions need to be answered. They need to answer
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