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Three's a Charm: Ohio Medicaid Fraud Scheme Explodes Into the Open · The Ben Ferguson Podcast

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  Speaker 1: One in three hospices in America are in Los Angeles,
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  Speaker 1: not California, La one and three. I mean, how many
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  Speaker 1: people are dying there? Obviously, it is fraudulent and the
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  Speaker 1: red flags that were mentioned in that wonderful report are
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  Speaker 1: all evident. You have doctors selling their souls, basically their
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  Speaker 1: licensed number, to open multiple hospice relationships. They dishonestly claim
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  Speaker 1: people are dying when they're not. If they steal your money,
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  Speaker 1: they will steal your life. They don't care at all
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  Speaker 1: about you.
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  Speaker 3: Good Wednesday morning. Nice have you with us on the
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  Speaker 3: for you. This is shocking news coming out of a
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  Speaker 3: Republican state, the Vice President's home, Columbus, Ohio. We now
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  Speaker 3: have found out that the Feds have been paying immigrants
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  Speaker 3: billions to literally hang out with their own family members.
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  Speaker 3: How did this even happen? And it's all coming for
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  Speaker 3: your tax dollars through medicaid. I explain it all. America
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  Speaker 2: Story number one.
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  Speaker 3: Fraud is something we are saying that is now being
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  Speaker 3: exposed at levels that none of us could have actually imagined,
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  Speaker 3: even after what we'd already found in Minnesota. Now, there's
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  Speaker 3: a lot of people that thought, well, this is just
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  Speaker 3: fraud that's gonna happen in extreme places where there's hardcore liberals.
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  Speaker 3: We're now saying that is not true. I'm gonna take
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  Speaker 3: you to Ohio and I'm gonna tell you about this story.
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  Speaker 3: I'm gonna ask you at the very beginning share this
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  Speaker 3: story on social media, all right, because people need to
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  Speaker 3: know that what we're witnessing now with fraud is not
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  Speaker 3: just in the liberal states. Democrats have figured out how
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  Speaker 3: to steal and these immigrants and illegal immigrants in every
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  Speaker 3: state in America. Now, let me see the stage for you.
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  Speaker 3: Just before the Department of Government Efficiency closed its doors,
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  Speaker 3: it made a quiet move keyword, quiet move that may
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  Speaker 3: end up its most lasting impact on the federal deficit.
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  Speaker 3: DOGE published a massive trove of data in February that
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  Speaker 3: for the first time, lets the public see what companies
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  Speaker 3: are billing Medicaid for now. For decades, all right, the
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  Speaker 3: payouts have been shrouded in secrecy, and now we understand
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  Speaker 3: why one of the largest government programs in essence was
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  Speaker 3: a black box. That the government made that way so
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  Speaker 3: that there could be kickbacks, waste, fraud, and abuse that
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  Speaker 3: we would never see. Now this interesting article that's been
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  Speaker 3: put out by a man, Luke Roziak. He's spent the
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  Speaker 3: last two months digging into the numbers, and what he
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  Speaker 3: found was the most blatant waste of federal dollars he
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  Speaker 3: says he's ever encountered in his two decades as an
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  Speaker 3: investigative journalist. Now this has become part of a Medicaid
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  Speaker 3: millionaire's Daily Wires series, and it's brilliant. I would tell
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  Speaker 3: you to go look at it. It's now exposing billions
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  Speaker 3: of dollars in dubious personal services payments where people are
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  Speaker 3: paid to spend time with their own families. Again, this
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  Speaker 3: is not a joke. So he set his sights on Ohio, which,
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  Speaker 3: like Minnesota, had been granted waivers to expand Medicaid well
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  Speaker 3: beyond its original purpose. Now under the guise of healthcare,
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  Speaker 3: Ohio pays people to go to Medicaid beneficiaries homes to
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  Speaker 3: perform what they describe as homemaking and chores like cooking
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  Speaker 3: and cleaning. Now here's what's interesting. The people performing these services,
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  Speaker 3: these quote personal services the tests, don't even have to
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  Speaker 3: be healthcare workers, and in many cases are actually relatives
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  Speaker 3: of the actual Medicaid patient. Now, according to the Daily
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  Speaker 3: Wire data analysis, Ohio spent a billion dollars alone on
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  Speaker 3: home healthcare in twenty twenty four. That's the last year
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  Speaker 3: that we've got data, and we expect the number to
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  Speaker 3: go hire in twenty twenty five. Now, since these services
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  Speaker 3: are performed inside private residences, okay, there is no way
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  Speaker 3: to know whether workers win at all or what they're
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  Speaker 3: actually doing in exchange for the billion dollars of your
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  Speaker 3: tax dollars. There's also an infinite number of small black
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  Speaker 3: boxes inside a black box, and this is the second warning.
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  Speaker 3: There are multiple signs that the service provided and built
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  Speaker 3: the government with sometimes just companionship end quote conversation like
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  Speaker 3: that's an actual line. So we are paying people to
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  Speaker 3: hang out with family members. I wish I was joking.
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  Speaker 3: I'm not as people have realized now, and these frontsters
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  Speaker 3: are just doing this now, not like recently. This has
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  Speaker 3: been going on for years. We just looked the other way.
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  Speaker 3: What they realized the United States government will basically pay
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  Speaker 3: you to do anything as long as there's paperwork around it.
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  Speaker 3: They will literally pay you to hang out with your
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  Speaker 3: own family members. Let me give you another example of this.
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  Speaker 3: Just in Northeast Columbus. They have seen its economy replaced
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  Speaker 3: by businesses that build Medicaid and Columbus, Ohio is a
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  Speaker 3: city with the second largest You're ready Somali population in
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  Speaker 3: the country. Where's number one Minneapolis, Saint Paul. It has become,
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  Speaker 3: on the surface, the most quote unhealthy city on planet Earth.
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  Speaker 3: Quote Well, if the government is going to pay you
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  Speaker 3: to do it, one home healthcare operator told the reporter.
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  Speaker 3: People see it as lucrative, so they just jump on it.
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  Speaker 3: And when no one's stopping it, why wouldn't you do it? Now?
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  Speaker 3: These new welfare queens aren't the recipients who'se low income
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  Speaker 3: qualify them, by the way, for poverty programs. They're the
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  Speaker 3: companies that are getting rich off of those living in poverty.
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  Speaker 3: There are even massive billboards up in Columbus. One of
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  Speaker 3: the billboards shows a looks like a daughter and a
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  Speaker 3: mother on their porch holding hands. And this is what
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  Speaker 3: the billboard says, caring for a loved one at home,
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  Speaker 3: question mark, get paid, get support. Then it says for
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  Speaker 3: you to go to careforth dot com. So you're driving
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  Speaker 3: down in Cleveland, less than forty seconds, you can come
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  Speaker 3: across endless home healthcare companies. You have Capital home Health,
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  Speaker 3: you have Continental home Health, you have Dynamite home Health.
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  Speaker 3: You've got the Ohio Senior Healthcare Home Healthcare. You have
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  Speaker 3: entire buildings throughout the city that are filled entirely with
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  Speaker 3: what appeared to be identical businesses. These enormous complexes that
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  Speaker 3: have now been put out and exposed and pictured. One
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  Speaker 3: of them is on Bush Boulevard. It lacks windows, and
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  Speaker 3: that would be a problem for most office building, but
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  Speaker 3: there's almost no one in that office building. What is inside, however,
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  Speaker 3: is ninety four different companies signed up to build Medicaid,
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  Speaker 3: each with a tiny office, often marked with a sheet
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  Speaker 3: of paper proclaiming some generic company name ending in Home
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  Speaker 3: Health LLC, and sometimes another piece of paper claiming the
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  Speaker 3: employees had just stepped out for a break, but they
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  Speaker 3: never come back. Now, the building alone build taxpayers sixty
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  Speaker 3: six million in the span of a few years. The
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  Speaker 3: records now show. And if you pick the owner of
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  Speaker 3: the Columbus home healthcare company at random and look them
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  Speaker 3: up in the public records, you're likely going to go
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  Speaker 3: down an endless rabbit hole. Years of unpaid taxes as
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  Speaker 3: well as debts. Okay, you're going to find that immediately,
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  Speaker 3: sometimes even criminal records, and an astonishing number of LLCs
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  Speaker 3: created in other industries, as if the millions they take
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  Speaker 3: from Medicaid are just a side gig. They actually went
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  Speaker 3: to several of these rabbit holes and they started to
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  Speaker 3: expose things. Let me give you an example of what
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  Speaker 3: they found. Number one, a politician who funded an eleven
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  Speaker 3: million home healthcare company that he appeared to run part
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  Speaker 3: time without even mentioning it in his political biography, who
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  Speaker 3: funded his campaign with massive donations from other home healthcare owners.
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  Speaker 3: That's the politician. Okay. You also had a woman who
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  Speaker 3: reinvented her janitorial LLC as a health provider, not a joke,
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  Speaker 3: and then build medicaid nearly one hundred thousand dollars the
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  Speaker 3: first month, and she got the cash. You had a
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  Speaker 3: landlord who, by the way, bought airplanes after running space
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  Speaker 3: to hundreds of home health care companies that build Medicaid
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  Speaker 3: a quarter of a billion dollars. Yeah, that's really happening,
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  Speaker 3: your tax dollars. You had a million dollar medicaid business
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  Speaker 3: that was owned by a couple who repeated fraud, violence,
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  Speaker 3: and had theft convictions repeated, and that to the government.
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  Speaker 3: Send your tax dours too. You had another man who
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  Speaker 3: went to prison for Medicaid fraud but told the government
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  Speaker 3: he was too broke to pay restitution, while his neighbors
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  Speaker 3: and associates presided over a poverty program empire that made
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  Speaker 3: him rich. You also had an accountant who lost his
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  Speaker 3: license for stealing public funds, then open a seven million
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  Speaker 3: dollar home health care company using the address of a
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  Speaker 3: convicted money launderer's teenage son. This is not a joke.
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  Speaker 3: These are the people that are doing this, and they're
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  Speaker 3: getting rich with your tax dollars. Now. These are not
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  Speaker 3: business geniuses, okay there, nor are people with any training
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  Speaker 3: or specialty in the field of health. They often failed
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  Speaker 3: at a variety of other businesses before suddenly becoming millionaires
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  Speaker 3: all over again. In the home health care field by
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  Speaker 3: billing the government for countless dollars. Sometimes the report says
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  Speaker 3: the company will have a quote full roster of clients
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  Speaker 3: in its very first month, making many normal saying people
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  Speaker 3: wonder like where were these clients? Where they come from?
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  Speaker 3: How do you get to max capacity in one month.
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  Speaker 3: The companies don't have websites either or appear to advertise
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  Speaker 3: at all. They just randomly fill up and maximize billing
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  Speaker 3: to the government. They can't stand out for their thousands
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  Speaker 3: of rivals based on price unless they pay kickbacks, because
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  Speaker 3: the government pays the same to everyone. So that becomes
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  Speaker 3: the second part of the scheme. You sign up a
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  Speaker 3: bunch of people really really fast, You get them a
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  Speaker 3: little kickback, and bam, you make millions of dollars. What's
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  Speaker 3: also interesting about what's having Columbus is nearly every owner
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  Speaker 3: of the home healthcare companies in Columbus appear to be foreign.
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  Speaker 3: They live in a parallel society where every associate in
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  Speaker 3: the public records also has a foreign name, and all
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  Speaker 3: their business transactions are conducted with other foreigners. When asked
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  Speaker 3: one that home healthcare companies did, one man threatened journalist
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  Speaker 3: who cares. Do you guys pay my bills? I'm going
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  Speaker 3: to tell everybody you guys are racist, was a response
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  Speaker 3: from that home healthcare company. Now, the government, by the way,
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  Speaker 3: is not unlikely has no ability to monitor all the people,
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  Speaker 3: and the it writes millions of dollars of checks to
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  Speaker 3: in Columbus. Apparently that's so they're just saying, we just
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  Speaker 3: keeps in the checks. They all, by the way, share
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  Speaker 3: combinations of just a few names, like Ahmed Muhammad and
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  Speaker 3: Muhammed Ahmed. Documents reviewed by The Daily Why show individuals
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  Speaker 3: will spell their names multiple different ways within a single document,
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  Speaker 3: and many of them lift their birthdays as January one
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  Speaker 3: because their birth dates are unknown, so they just put
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  Speaker 3: down January one, and then we send them millions of
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  Speaker 3: your tax do hours. The business model is simple from
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  Speaker 3: what we've now seen from these documents. I'll give you
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  Speaker 3: a perfect example. They had a forty year old Somali
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  Speaker 3: migrant who gets paid for spending time with and maybe
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  Speaker 3: cooking for his own sixty five year old mother. The
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  Speaker 3: middleman is one of thousands of home health firms that
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  Speaker 3: have the NPI numbers necessary to then build Medicaid. The
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  Speaker 3: forty year old becomes an employee of that company, but
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  Speaker 3: has no client other than his mother. There is no
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  Speaker 3: way to verify whether he actually even provides his services
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  Speaker 3: to his mom unless his own mother is willing to
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  Speaker 3: testify against him. I think we all know that's not
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  Speaker 3: going to happen. This poverty program is different from things
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  Speaker 3: like food stamps because it has no monetary cap. Let
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  Speaker 3: me say that again. It has no monetary cap, and
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  Speaker 3: its extent is decided not by the politicians but by
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  Speaker 3: any doctor who's willing to sign a form saying you
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  Speaker 3: could use some help around the house. It only takes
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  Speaker 3: one doctor who will say yes to churn out enough
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  Speaker 3: forms to bankrupt an entire state. Now, for years, there's
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  Speaker 3: been quote efforts to rein in the waste that have
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  Speaker 3: nibbled around the edges, shaving off a million here, a
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  Speaker 3: million there. But skeptics and liberals argue that the cost
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  Speaker 3: cutting exercise was pointless because they said the line share
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  Speaker 3: of federal spinning was locked up in nondiscretionary spending like healthcare.
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  Speaker 3: The implication was that there's no waste in that category
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  Speaker 3: and nothing that could be done about it. Even as
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  Speaker 3: the nation was well this program was going towards insolvency,
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  Speaker 3: and they didn't care because they were getting paid. And
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  Speaker 3: then the kickbacks were coming to the politicians. This was
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  Speaker 3: a blatant waste and it happened within miles of the
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  Speaker 3: Ohio State Capitol the governor there. And again this goes
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  Speaker 3: back to what I'm saying about Republicans. The governor in
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  Speaker 3: Ohio is Mike Dwain. His appointees run the state. In
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  Speaker 3: an age of artificial intelligence, the medicaid system has seemed
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  Speaker 3: disinterested in even the most obvious red flags. Perhaps that's
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  Speaker 3: because it's largely run by the states. What would have
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  Speaker 3: for more of the billing being forced for you to
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  Speaker 3: pay as a federal tax payer. Now here's the good news.
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  Speaker 3: The Trump administration is now turning its sites to medicaid
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  Speaker 3: fraud with a task force. It's being led by the
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  Speaker 3: Federal Trade Commission Chairman Andrew Ferguson and the Vice President J. D. Vance,
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  Speaker 3: and they want to start with Vance's home state because
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  Speaker 3: what we're seeing is this is happening, as I mentioned earlier,
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  Speaker 3: in a conservative state, not a liberal state. And that's
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  Speaker 3: the most important part of this entire story.
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