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It's time for Canelo-Crawford · Boxing B-Sides

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This shit ain't nothing to me, man. Gotta get
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your podcast right, Leo. Yes, I do. That was
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the little hand. That was my thinking moment.
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Like, wait, what am I doing right now? Who am
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I talking to? What is this? Where am I? Alzheimer's
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setting in already. Sad to see. Can't help myself.
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Brain deteriorating. Oh, shit. Boxing Before
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Dark, we are all up in your ears, and we're here
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to talk the fucking fights. Man, Shanada, how
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are you? I am good. I have been doing some trip
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and fight bookings. Got my ticket for the 1FC
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in November in Tokyo. I've never seen kickboxing
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live, so I'm actually pretty excited. Did Ryzen
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not have it? There was no kickboxing. It was
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all MMA stuff. Oh, shit. I thought Ryzen was...
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Oh, Ryze. Sorry. They have an organization called
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Ryze, and that's kickboxing. And then there's
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Ryzen. Yeah, no, but that's different. That's
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MMA. Yeah. My mistake. Yeah. So, and I might
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be missing in two weeks because I'm going up
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to Hokkaido to watch Draft Horse Racing. It's
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the main reason for this trip. So they got the
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big draft horses pulling heavy sleds, and there's
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two small hills built into the course. I'm really
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excited about it, actually. I think it's going
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to be super cool. Them being draft horses does
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make it cooler, just because they're bigger and
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beefier. Well, and it's built in such a way where
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no horse can pull the sled from start to finish.
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without a rest so there's actually a lot of like
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knowing your animal and strategy involved whoa
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yeah and like stopping the sled and restarting
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it is bad obviously because momentum but you
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you have to do it at least once but do you do
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it twice for a short time or once for a longer
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time and how far from each uh hill do you stop
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and anyway I'm super stoked. If anybody's interested
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in looking it up, it's called Vane, V -A -N -E
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-I, and it's up on YouTube. It's pretty fun.
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This actually does sound a little bit more entertaining
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than Floyd Mayweather versus Mike Tyson. Yeah.
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I am not excited for this at all. Not even a
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little bit. This is the dumbest shit fucking
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ever. Ever. Floyd's ducking Manny again. What's
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new? And Mike Tyson can barely walk. There's
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no fucking chance he catches Floyd Mayweather.
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Mayweather's still in really good shape. They're
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not going to hurt each other. It's not the point
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of the event. The point is to just pitter -patter,
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move around a bit. Nothing serious. I would imagine
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something serious. The only one of these Mike
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Tyson ones that was worth doing, in my opinion,
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was the Roy Jones Jr. one. Because they're both
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old and can hardly move. It was even. But Floyd's
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just going to dance around and make... Old decrepit
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Mike Tyson looks stupid and it's gonna make me
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sad. Why do they insist on making me sad? I don't
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know. If Mayweather's coming out of retirement,
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he should fight Manny. This is stupid. This has
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to be an exhibition. Right? I would think so.
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But who the fuck knows? Like, it should be. Should
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be. Yeah, they could just forum shop and find
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somebody that's willing to sanction it. That
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would be a bad look, though. Yeah, but lots of
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those sanctioning bodies do not care. True. Oh,
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speaking of sanctioning bodies that do not care.
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Jaime Munguia. Cleared of all charges. In the
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stupidest way possible. Right. So, like, somebody
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said false positive, but that's not what this
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is. No, it's not. No one's saying it's a false
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positive. They're saying that Munguia used something,
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but it's something that's allowed. But then he
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goes on to say Eddie... Had no idea. What he
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was using. And knows nothing about this. So his.
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Test. Was positive. For a non -ban substance.
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That his coach had no idea. He was taking. The
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substance is not. Is banned in the UK. It's not
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banned in the US. Or anywhere else for that matter.
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That's why. He was. He popped. a legitimate pop
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but he submitted himself to extra testing to
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prove like no this yes i was on i was taking
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that supplement uh but i thought it was allowed
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because it's allowed everywhere else but here
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apparently and yeah he did so nail testing follicle
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testing didn't he still break the rules then
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because wasn't that shanked it sanctioned by
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the uk yeah exactly So it's still wrong. Why
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is this not a no contest? Because... Yes. Yes.
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Like, it's so fucking stupid. If you're playing
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a sport in a league, you need to know the rules
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for that league. I know sanctioning bodies aren't
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exactly leagues, but it's pretty similar. If
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you know you're going to be sanctioned by the
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British Boxing Board of Commission, like, you
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have to stop taking the stuff. Now, maybe he
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did, but... If he'd have told them before, I'm
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on this thing that's allowed in the States that's
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not allowed in Britain. I'm stopping now, but
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I'll probably still test positive. That would
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be different. Yeah, it's tough. Because I can
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see why the UK would want to just let it go to
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make themselves look a little bit more lenient
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and not... Oh, fucky. I guess, but the whole
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thing's just stupid. In all honesty, boxing's
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such an international sport, we should have a
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set of agreed -on banned substances at this point.
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Right. Like when we talked about, what's his
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name? He popped for something in Texas and then
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he went to fight in the UK. Rodriguez? Was he...
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That's a situation... Francisco? I think you're
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right. That's something that could have easily
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been avoided if commissions were to talk to each
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other. Yeah. Even if the association... If all
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of the state commissions feed up... Into the
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Association of Commissions. So it becomes a little
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bit more of an operating thing instead of just
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like an administrative sort of umbrella. Would
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be nice. Because then the Association of American
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Commissions can talk to British Border Patrol
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or whatever. Yeah, I don't know. The whole thing
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is just... It's stupid. Yes. Quite. But. I mean,
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this is definitely a name recognition thing,
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in my opinion. If it was reversed and Sarath
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had done this, like, and beaten Munguia, it would
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be a no contest. And he'd be banned from competing
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in the UK for like a year. Yeah. Yeah. But. Silly.
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Speaking of silly, Inoue vs. Picasso. In December.
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Once again, Inoue's looking past his current
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opponent. I don't know why. I fucking hate this.
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You can sign whatever, but don't announce it
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ahead of time. That's what the post -fight conference
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is for. It's like, oh, what's next for you, Naoya?
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that's when you say like oh well we we've been
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cooking this deal in the back and now we're ready
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to announce we're fighting picasso in december
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yeah and like mj is not nobody right december
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is not that far away they they're seriously banking
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on making easy work of him yeah like what if
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mj cracks his eye or something like it could
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happen Yeah, it has happened before. In a way,
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it's not impervious to fucking orbital breaks.
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Yeah, like, I fucking hate this. I hate this
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so much. And they're doing it to everybody with
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a name now. Like, they did it to Bam before he
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fought Kafu. They've done it the last, like,
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two or three Inoue fights. I'm sure there's other
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ones I'm not thinking of right now. Just stop
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with this. Yeah. Stop showing your pants. Also,
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who wants to see Inoue versus Picasso? Fucking
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nobody. Nobody wants that fight. Picasso's bank
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account wants that fight. I guess. But, like,
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I mean, fans don't want that fight. Also, does
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that mean Inoue is going up? a weight class and
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coming back down to fight nakatani that's stupid
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uh is he going up to fight picasso or is he bringing
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picasso back down i don't know i don't think
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they've announced that but that's that's part
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of my question yeah i'm thinking they're bringing
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picasso down maybe a catchweight so imagine we're
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getting into mid Mid -late November. And then
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they announce interweaver Sam Goodman. In fucking...
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Like, early March. I will fucking riot. I will
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legitimately fucking storm the JBC or something.
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I know where their headquarters are, so... Why
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not? If you're going to clean out a division,
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might as well be thorough. No. Just no. Also,
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didn't Sam Goodman go up a weight class? Yes,
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he did as well. Yeah. I mean, for in a way money,
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I'm sure he's going down. He would go back to
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22 without question. In a way, Goodman, finally.
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The fans are finally getting the fight they've
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been waiting for. It would be kind of funny if
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Goodman was his first 126 fight. I think that
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would be pretty funny. That would be good. That
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would actually be a decent 126 debut. I don't
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think Inoue's dad is going to give Goodman the
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time of day ever again. I hope not. Man. Speaking
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of time of day, that doesn't work. That's not
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a good one, Leo. Don't do that. Parker versus
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Wardley in October. This is the first I'm hearing
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of this. Saw an announcement online. I think
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it's legit. Which, Parker's getting fucked again.
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Like, this poor man just can't get his shot.
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I can't remember where I saw it, though. Yeah,
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I haven't seen anything else about this. It's
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on ESPN. So, I mean, it must be relatively legit.
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Yeah. They are in talks for October 25th in London.
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Tyson Mayweather's in the exhibition. Okay. That's
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good. Yeah, that's exactly what it should be.
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If it's going to be anything. Yeah, so I guess
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the idea is Usyk asked for an extension. on his,
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whatever you call it, talks with Parker, and
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Parker wants to stay busy, so he's talking to
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Fabio Wardley about an October fight, and then
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Usyk would theoretically be after that. Assuming
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he wins. Yeah, I was going to say, if Parker
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gets sparked by Wardley, like... Another oceanic...
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fighter gets sparked by wordly after boxing him
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soundly for like 10 rounds i mean it could happen
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parker's got a pretty good chin i don't think
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it will happen but it could but i guess that
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one could be kind of an exciting fight but i
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just parker deserves his shot at usik i don't
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know why he's getting screwed over so badly Oh,
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also happening in October, Danny Garcia is back.
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Really? Yeah. Why? Farewell to Brooklyn is the
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name of the event. This is... So, like, he's
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coming out of... I guess he never said he was
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retired, but he's coming out of retirement for
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a farewell fight? For the beginning of winding
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down his career. I thought his career was done.
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I thought so too. So he's going to say farewell
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to Brooklyn. Then just example cities. Farewell
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to Miami. Farewell to Las Vegas. Farewell to
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Los Angeles. And then finally, his last fight,
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poetically, will be in Philadelphia. I see. Where
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he's going to say farewell to boxing. Well, I
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mean, I liked Danny Garcia, but... Yeah, he was
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fun. I thought he was done a long time ago. I
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will watch, though. I will be tuning in. Well,
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I mean, for all intents and purposes, he was
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done a while ago. He hasn't done anything noteworthy.
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I don't think he's had a fight since 2022, has
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he? 2024, he fought Erislam Dilara. Oh, did he?
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Yeah. I missed that one. And it looked like he
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was going to have a meltdown in the middle of
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the fight, and that's why his dad called it off.
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They stopped it in the corner, and it looked
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like Danny Garcia was going to have an emotional
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breakdown. That's not good. No, not good at all.
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Get some help, dude. I mean, I guess one last
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farewell fight will pay for the help. I suppose.
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If that's what he's doing. Is Danny Garcia the
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one with the clothing line? Yes. It is god -awful
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in such a horrific way that I love it, though.
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It is fucking perfect for someone who looks like
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Danny Garcia. Yeah, people like him. If that's
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the look you're going for, it's spot on. But
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I would not wear it. Holy shit. Remember the
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Algerian boxer woman, Imane Khalif? She and others
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are... She was a... The Transvestigators came
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out. Like witch hunting. Oh, yes. Okay. I know
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who it is now. And there are other female boxers
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that are going to be missing the world championships.
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That doesn't surprise me. New gender testing.
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Compulsory gender testing. Well, do you remember...
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It was a while ago, but they did this for, I
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think it was the World Games. Not the Olympics,
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but the other ones. And a whole bunch of people
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were finding out that they weren't what they
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thought they were. They were something in between.
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And that's why they did chromosome testing. Yeah,
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that's what they're asking for here. Yeah, yeah,
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yeah. And a whole bunch of athletes found out
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that they weren't. XX or XY. They were something
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else. They're chimerical. Or, like, XXY or XYY
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or whatever. Like, there's a bunch of them. And
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they stopped testing because it was kind of,
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like, fucking people's heads up at 24 to realize
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that they weren't, you know, what they thought
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they were. Quote -unquote pure male or pure female.
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Yeah, whatever, right? And they're... Everybody's
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always like, well, why don't women ever... I'm
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not good at the wording. Why don't the people
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that were born women ever compete in male sports?
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And there's a handful that have won world medals
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that are not XY. But anyways, they're like XXY
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and stuff. But they only found out because the
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Olympics made... Not the Olympics. The world's
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made them do the chromosome testing. Which is
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part of my whole argument with this shit. It's
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so stupid, because you don't know what you are
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unless you've tested. In many cases. Like, and
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that's not standard testing anywhere. Unless
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you have some symptoms or something, nobody ever
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tests that. Why does it matter? What do you do
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with the information if you're a chimera anyway?
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Well, it's not even chimera. Like, that's not
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the only thing, right? There's lots of chimeras
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when there was two fetuses that melded together.
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Oh, I thought that was when you're like an XXY.
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No. No, that's just a chromosomal anomaly. The
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most famous one is Down syndrome. Yeah. But,
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like... There's a surprising number of people
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who start getting, like, abdomen pain when they're
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an adult and they find out they have, like, hidden
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testes that never descended and no penis or something.
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Right. Like, it happens a lot more often than
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people think. If you go look at the actual numbers,
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it's, like, 1 in 500 live -born... Male presenting
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babies is not XY. Wow. Where do you make the
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distinction of what qualifies as a female and
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what doesn't? Yeah, I think this is probably
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not great for the boxing podcast. Yeah, this
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is not the conversation for this. Not the place
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for this conversation. Khalif that you're talking
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about, the reason they vilified her was her testosterone
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levels. So it's not even that she's chromosomally
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not female. Like, she's XX, she just makes more
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testosterone than the average XX person. She
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is a literal, actual warrior. Of course she's
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going to have higher testosterone than the average
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female. Lots of athletes have different levels
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of hormones and stuff than the average person.
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That's what makes them a fucking world -class
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athlete. Yeah. Like, long -distance runners have
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crazy VO2 maxes that normal people will never
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have, no matter how much training they do. How
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is that any different than, you know, a lady
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that has extra testosterone? Naturally, without
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adding to it. The whole arguments are stupid.
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The doctor has spoken. Anyways. Yeah. Just really
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shitty that the French team is not able to compete
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because they missed the deadline for chromosomal
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testing. For the testing? Yeah. Really shitty.
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Yeah. wonder what these chromosomal testing what
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they're gonna do with the people that aren't
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XX or XY are they just disqualified did they
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have to compete in a male category like because
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there's gonna be more people than people think
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if they do chromosomal testing it's going to
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be a percentage like it's not going to be 0 .001
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or something it's going to be like two percent
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of athletes what if a male like male presenting
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fights has been fighting with males his whole
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life uh gets chromosomal testing and is whatever
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gets the cut off because it's too female And
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now you're putting a male into female sports?
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There are XXY guys out there. Yeah. This is really
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dumb. So what's the cutoff? Having one Y automatically
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makes you a guy? What if you have two Ys? Then
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you do produce more testosterone. Is that fair
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to have you compete against men with only one
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Y? The whole thing's stupid. Yes. I don't know
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who this new fucking testing organization is,
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but they need to get fucked. Well, like I said,
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they've done this before. This isn't brand new.
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It just wasn't as public before. Maybe it wasn't
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the world, but definitely international stuff.
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The heavyweight champion of UFC is looking at
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is leaving the door open to the possibility of
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crossing over to boxing. I think he could have
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some success. He has really good hands. That
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could be interesting. Yeah. And he's not old
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and washed up or anything. We haven't seen very
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many people transition from MMA to boxing. Tony
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Ferguson? The guy who just... Last weekend. But,
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like, I can think of a couple Muay Thai guys
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and, like, kickboxers and stuff. Like, Chris
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Algieri was a kickboxing world champion. Didn't
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SSR start off in Muay Thai? Yeah, he did. Yeah.
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But I can't think of any UFC guys, UFC -style
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MMA, Bellator, any of those. I can't think of
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anybody crossing over that way. AJ, fellow Brit
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options, and Francis Ngannou. Nah, I don't think
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that's going to happen. Because if... Now that
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Dana White is able to promote boxing events because
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he has the backing of the Saudis, now that he
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can do that, if any of his fighters want to have
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a boxing event, it's not difficult. They have
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a platform. Right. That's all in -house. Oh.
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Leo, I just Googled this. They're not actually
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doing full chromosomal testing. Oh. They're doing
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a test for one specific gene that is on the Y
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chromosome. So it just tests if you have a Y
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chromosome or not. They're not doing the full,
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you have this many chromosomes. Hmm. So they
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won't know, and they're not testing men at all.
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Oh, of course not. So, you know. Yeah, it's just
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females. And apparently there is an exception
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for people with complete androgen insensitivity
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syndrome, which means that your body has no testosterone
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receptor. So I guess if you test positive for
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a Y chromosome, they'll have to do a follow -up
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test to see if your body can react to it. Seems
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complicated. Yeah, this seems pretty complicated
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for boxing. Yeah. Anyways, less invasive than
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a full chromosome test, so maybe better. I shrugged,
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since this is, like, audio only. Yeah. I just
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gave a big, like, the fuck, man. Yeah, I'm with
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you, but less invasive than finding out that
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you only have one X chromosome because you don't
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need two of those. Which is called Turner Syndrome.
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back to party. Woo! Nothing in the recaps other
33:05
than the Misfits fight. Tony Ferguson beats Salt
33:13
Poppy. And I think it was Darren Till got laid
33:18
the fuck out. I did not watch this, I'm not gonna
33:23
lie. I don't really remember. I know for sure
33:27
Tony Ferguson beat Salt Poppy. Yeah. Just because
33:30
I know who Tony Ferguson is. The other two, the
33:34
main event was Darren Till versus something or
33:38
other. And I have no idea who the fuck they are.
33:40
But one of them got murked. So that's fun. Nice.
33:48
Coming up this weekend. We have The Ring is doing
33:53
an event. The Ring presents The Underdog is what
34:00
the event is called. Not sure why. I think because
34:06
they're little guys. Yeah, probably. I used to
34:11
like that cartoon, Underdog. I don't remember
34:16
that one. I remember Superdog. Superdog. That
34:21
one's new to me. He was Superman, but a dog.
34:27
The ring presents the underdog at the Fontainebleau
34:33
in Las Vegas. There's a bunch of shit on here
34:36
that I don't care about. Anthony Olasquaga versus
34:39
Juan Carlos Camacho Rivera. I'm excited for this
34:44
one. I really like Olasquaga. Wonder what color
34:49
of... hair and gloves he'll have this time? It'll
34:52
be pink again. Oh, is he at all? I'm 99 % sure.
34:55
Yeah, yeah, yeah. His nickname is the princess.
34:59
Oh, that's right. That's why he wears pink. That's
35:01
him. Yeah. So he'll just do it like a different
35:05
pattern instead of having like the cherry blossoms
35:07
since he was in Japan last time. Yeah. That's
35:11
cool. He'll do something French maybe. Maybe.
35:15
Yeah. He's very... fashionable on Instagram and
35:21
stuff, so I imagine his walkout outfit will be
35:23
themed for sure. High fashion. Yeah. I like Ola
35:29
Squaga. I think he'll probably win, but I don't
35:33
really know this other guy, to be honest. I don't
35:36
either. He's from Puerto Rico. His name is The
35:41
Indian? El Indio? That's The Indian, right? It
35:45
is. Yeah, the native. I guess would be what he's
35:50
more aiming for. Probably dark. Is he dark skinned?
35:56
I guess. Not really. Kind of. Not for Puerto
36:03
Rico. Whenever you're dark skinned, not black,
36:10
but when you're dark skinned, dark skinned brown,
36:14
they call you Indio. I recognize a couple names
36:22
on his resume that he's beat, but I think Olaskwaga
36:26
will be able to outbox him. We'll see. Should
36:29
be a fun fight, though. There's going to be 10
36:32
,000 punches thrown. As smaller fights tend to
36:37
be. That's going to be on Thursday, September
36:44
11th. Never forget. It's going to be on the zone.
36:48
I did forget. That's a weird night to have it.
36:54
Isn't it? I don't know. Is it? I don't think
37:00
so. If we don't continue to have festivities
37:07
and other stuff on the day, then the terrorists
37:14
win. I guess. I don't actually believe that.
37:22
I think it would be better on a Friday than a
37:25
Thursday, though. Absolutely. Fights on a Thursday,
37:29
when it's, I guess, smaller profile stuff, I
37:36
guess. It's a world title fight, though. I was
37:40
going to say, this is a title fight. At the least,
37:43
it should be on a Friday. Yeah, this is for the
37:48
WBO flyweight title. Moving to Saturday, September
37:56
13th, there are two events. First, Matchroom
38:00
at Windsor Park in Belfast, Northern Ireland.
38:06
There's quite a bit of stuff on here, some of
38:10
which I do care about. Some of which I do not.
38:16
Jim Donovan, I believe, is related to Patty Donovan,
38:19
who's in the main event making his debut, so
38:22
that's fun. Molly McCann, she's an MMA chick
38:27
known for her bad attitude, but making a boxing
38:32
debut here. Okay, there are way too many MMA
38:38
girls with alliterative names. Molly McCann,
38:42
Holly Holmes, Ronda Rousey. They sound like comic
38:46
book characters. I didn't stop to think about
38:50
that, but you're absolutely right. It sounds
38:54
like shit Stan Lee made up. Peter Parker. Matt
39:01
Murdock. Bruce Banner. Like, it was a thing that
39:04
Stan Lee wanted them to alliterate. But the UFC
39:09
has so many girls, women with alliterative names,
39:12
it's ridiculous. Well, Molly McCann. Now she's
39:19
a boxing chick. We'll see how long that lasts.
39:23
I guess so is Holly Holmes. Yeah. Moving up the
39:27
bill, Pat Brown is an Olympian. He's having a...
39:32
An eight -rounder. So that's fun. Tyrone McKenna
39:38
versus Dylan Moran at welterweight. Ishmael Davis
39:44
versus, oh God, Kayomin Aguiarco at 154. I've
39:52
seen him a couple times. That should be a closer
39:57
fight than it maybe looks on paper, I think.
40:01
13 and 2, Davis, verse 17 and 0. Agyarko. What
40:10
a fun name. How have I not seen this before?
40:14
Well, and that first name's very Irish, so it's
40:18
probably like Shaman or something. Oh, yeah.
40:21
Yeah, this dude is Irish as fuck. All right.
40:27
Well, he's from Northern Ireland, so he's...
40:31
He reps the Republic. Kind of Irish. He reps
40:34
the Republic. That's fair. I'm just saying. He's
40:37
from Belfast. There's only one Ireland. And it's
40:41
the Republic. He was born in London. But yeah,
40:48
I don't know how you say this Gaelic name, but
40:51
I think it's Shaman. Shaman? Yeah. I'll take
40:59
your word for it. And in the main event, IBF
41:04
welterweight title on the line. It's vacant after
41:07
Jerron Ennis moved up. Lewis Crocker versus Patty
41:10
Donovan 2. Electric Boogaloo. This could get
41:16
dirty. It did the first time. It could get more
41:21
worse. Yeah. Given how it ended. I wonder who
41:24
they have reffing. Do they put up who's the ref?
41:28
I don't think they put that up ahead of time.
41:32
He's gonna have his hands full. That crowd's
41:38
gonna be lit, though. It should be good. Ireland
41:43
versus the UK. Grudge match. In Ireland. Should
41:52
be fun. Is Belfast Ireland? There's only one
41:58
Ireland. I'm just saying, it should be an atmosphere.
42:05
Yeah, absolutely. Oh, man. Speaking of atmospheres,
42:12
in the Allegiant Stadium in Las Vegas, Nevada,
42:17
TKO making their promotional debut on Netflix.
42:28
There's a bunch of shit on here. Let's start
42:31
from the bottom up. Sultan Al -Muhammad vs. Martin
42:37
Garabayo. Don't know who either of these guys
42:40
are. Marco Alvarez vs. Marcos Osorio. Mark squared?
42:52
Yeah. Reito Tsutsumi versus Javier Martinez.
42:58
That one might be fun. Yeah. Which one's Javier
43:04
Martinez? Is he... 7 -2 guy. I don't think he's
43:11
anybody noteworthy. No. Doesn't look like it.
43:18
And he's on a two -loss slide. That might be
43:23
a walkover job for Raiko. Steven Nelson versus
43:30
Raiko Santana. I wonder... Steven Nelson has
43:38
some fucking dope ring attire. I will never get
43:44
over his sagging jeans. Trunks. those fucking
43:50
underwear hanging out yeah like patterned onto
43:54
the trunk that was that bothered me the entire
43:58
fight yeah me too yeah pull up your fucking pants
44:04
oh wait they are up so weird we were we were
44:09
all sitting in like in a row in our seats and
44:13
i just Nobody was saying anything. They were
44:17
just getting in the ring and like, what's wrong
44:19
with his pants? Why are his pants sagging? And
44:23
we're all looking like, what the fuck? Is he
44:26
sagging his pants in a professional boxing match?
44:30
The illusion was very, very well done. Like whoever
44:34
made those did a super good job. Yeah. And then
44:39
he did the M. Bison when he fought Diego Pacheco.
44:44
So that should be cool. So it should be cool
44:46
what he does next. He should hook up with Mizuki.
44:54
Yeah. Do some collabs. I don't think their styles
45:03
are very similar. Ivan Ditchko versus Jermaine
45:08
Franklin. Have you been wondering where Jermaine
45:11
Franklin is? Well, here he is. Shaking my head.
45:18
I got to narrate. Nobody's been wondering. Right.
45:23
Callum Walsh versus Fernando Vargas Jr. Starting
45:29
to get interesting. This is a decent fight. Decent
45:34
for what it is anyway. These guys are both at
45:37
similar levels. So this should be fun. I got
45:39
to look at pictures before I... Okay, I know
45:44
who these two are. Callum Walsh looks so weird
45:47
in his picture on BoxRec. I don't know why. Yeah,
45:54
I'm kind of excited for this one, actually. Are
45:57
we going to get the UK versus Mexico buff? Maybe.
46:06
I know he's not really from Mexico. No, he's
46:08
not. He's one step removed. So maybe. So does
46:12
the buff apply? I don't think so. Moving up,
46:18
Sergei Bohachuk versus Brandon Adams rematch.
46:22
This was the guy that beat Sergei Bohachuk the
46:25
first time. His first loss was to Brandon Adams.
46:30
I don't think it's going to happen again. No,
46:32
it was a really quick knockout too. That's not
46:35
happening again. Brandon Adams has been quietly
46:39
keeping his career going pretty well. He went
46:43
into the overtime circuit and he's made deep
46:47
runs into their brackets or whatever. He's only
46:54
lost to decent names, I guess. I don't know what
47:01
you think of Katsarakis. He's okay. I guess those
47:10
first two losses a long time ago were not great,
47:14
but recently he's only lost a decent name. Willie
47:17
Monroe Jr. is not a terrible loss. Apollo Thompson,
47:22
I don't know who that is, so I can't really say,
47:25
but it was an early stoppage, so that's not good.
47:29
And then he lost to Charlo. Yeah, he went 12
47:32
with Charlo, which was... Sad on Charlo's side.
47:42
This should be a good fight, though. I can't
47:45
see Sergey getting stopped early this time. Christian
47:52
Mbili versus Lester Martinez. Interim WBC title.
47:57
Super middleweight title will be on the line
48:00
here. Lester has been cutting his teeth. On Probox.
48:07
So he's been getting good matchups and he's been
48:09
making fucking easy work of it. So this is a
48:16
big step up for Lester. This is a pretty decent
48:19
step up in competition for Christian Mbili as
48:21
well. Mbili's been knocking over cans. He has
48:27
been. So it's hard for me to guess where Mbili's
48:32
at. We're about to find out. I should be good.
48:38
I'm not going to lie. I'm probably going to back
48:41
Martinez. I like a good underdog story. He's
48:45
been on Pro Box. Yeah. Oh, boy. Main event. Undisputed
48:54
super middleweight title on the line. Canelo
48:59
versus Crawford. This is going to be boring as
49:03
fuck. I'm keeping my expectations low. Yeah.
49:12
I don't know. I hope I'm wrong. I hope I'm wrong.
49:16
Same. I think it's going to be Crawford being
49:19
a little cautious because Canelo still has power
49:23
and not being able to hurt Canelo, really. So
49:28
I think it's going to be Canelo prod... plotting
49:30
and Crawford pot shotting. And it's going to
49:34
be high skill, low action, which is not my favorite.
49:40
It's not, that's boring as shit. Yeah. I mean,
49:45
if that's your thing. Yeah. I, you want to be
49:49
one of those like snobby hardcore fans. That's
49:52
like, Oh, you just don't appreciate the sweet
49:54
science. I understand perfectly what I'm looking
49:58
at. That does not mean I have to be entertained
50:01
by it. Exactly. I get this bullshit all the time.
50:06
People are like, you just don't like the sweet
50:07
science. I'm like, no. I like to watch people
50:09
beat the fuck out of each other. That's what
50:12
I like. I like violence. But it should be high
50:21
skill. If that's your thing, you'll enjoy it.
50:24
For the casual audience that's been hearing this
50:27
is... the super fight of the century and shit,
50:30
the casuals are going to be disappointed. I think.
50:37
I want to try to offer like a counter opinion,
50:40
but I don't really have one because I'm not really
50:44
looking forward to this. I'm looking forward
50:46
to the rest of the card. There's, there's some
50:49
decent fights on here. I think they have stacked
50:52
like those just before the main event fights
50:55
with good action fights to make up for it. Yeah.
50:59
Like, I think they've finally started realizing
51:04
that you kind of have to build a whole card.
51:10
You can't expect Canelo to just carry the whole
51:13
thing. Well, and you can't just expect the high
51:18
-skilled guys to be exciting. I don't know how
51:21
else to put it. You have to understand what your
51:24
fighters are most likely to do and make a card
51:27
that has some of both. Balance. Yeah, like that
51:32
Times Square card was garbage because it was
51:36
all super high skill guys. There was no stand
51:41
and bang guys on that card. Yeah, the most exciting...
51:45
Well, I guess Brian Garcia would have been...
51:49
The stand and bang guy. Yeah, I was going to
51:54
say the most exciting thing was Teofimo showboating.
51:58
Yeah, but he's a skill guy. Exactly. When he's
52:01
not being stupid. So... Anyways, I think they've
52:08
balanced this card at least. That is the best
52:11
part of it for me. Yeah. I am excited for the
52:16
card. The main event, though, I expect to...
52:18
watch and be like fucking do something Terrence
52:24
Crawford can figure something out I'm gonna say
52:27
he'll do it around rounds five to seven and if
52:34
he can figure something out I think he'll push
52:36
the offense just cause he has the skill to hit
52:43
and not get hit yeah We'll see. I hope so. But
52:49
I'm just expecting it to be Crawford pot -shotting
52:54
from the outside, Canelo not really being able
52:57
to catch him, and Crawford not really hurting
53:00
Canelo, because Canelo's got an all -time chin.
53:02
And he's pulling up a guy from two divisions
53:07
below. Yeah. Well, and Crawford's power didn't
53:12
seem to carry super well. To 54. Yeah. Yeah.
53:18
And he's going up again? Yep. We'll see. I would
53:25
like to be wrong. Well, if you, beloved listener,
53:29
want to join in the fun in Discord, for big fights
53:33
like this, we do competing roles. So it's just
53:36
pick your team. Are you Team Canelo, Team Crawford?
53:39
And you get a color based on whatever team you're
53:43
on. And then we just shit talk each other relentlessly.
53:47
And that's pretty much all there is to it. But
53:51
it's fun. It's pretty fun. And if I'm wrong,
53:54
they can call in and shit talk me on the podcast.
53:57
Absolutely. I would love for you to call. If
54:00
I'm wrong, please call and rub it in. 833 -LUX
54:04
-PODS. Anything more for the Canelo Crawford?
54:11
No. All right. Moving to Sunday. I have it. I
54:18
wrote down Sunday, Sunday 14th. Sunday, September
54:21
14th. This one is in Nagoya, Japan. There's a
54:28
lot of stuff on here that I don't really know.
54:34
There's not very many big names. Yeah, the co
54:37
-main is okay. Yoshiki Takei. versus Christian
54:43
Medina for the WBO Bantamweight title. But the
54:50
reason we're here, Naoya Inoue versus Murojan
54:54
Akhmadaliev, aka MJ, for the Undisputed 122 Championship.
55:02
I am expecting Inoue to get a knockout in those
55:07
mid -to -late rounds. Like... I'm going to call
55:11
eight, I think. For thirds, I'd go back third.
55:21
For quarters, mid -late. Yep. Yeah. I don't know.
55:29
I don't think MJ's going to have anything super
55:34
surprising. He's a lefty. Yeah. I don't know.
55:42
And he's stablemates with Cardenas, who did have
55:51
that big knockdown over Inouye. He should have
55:55
a good game plan, I think. Absolutely. I'm really
55:58
hoping Inouye comes in more awake than he has
56:04
the last couple. You don't need to get knocked
56:07
down before you start taking it serious. It would
56:11
be good if you didn't. It would be nice. Yeah,
56:15
I would be happier. One day. MJ could knock him
56:22
down. It could happen. Yeah, it's not out of
56:25
the... It wouldn't be too... It would be shocking,
56:29
but not surprising. Yeah. One day. naoya's gonna
56:36
on like his retirement little press conference
56:39
he's gonna say i got knocked down every fight
56:43
because nobody would fight me if i didn't if
56:47
i didn't go down if i didn't look human nobody
56:50
would fight me yeah yeah it's all part of the
56:53
strategy yep the whole time i was just uh just
56:58
trying to make the monster look human yeah Totally.
57:06
I would prefer if that was not the strategy.
57:08
Yeah, well, they got Picasso into the ring, finally.
57:12
Oh, yeah. Yeah, great. So excited for that. Because
57:17
Picasso was such a threat. So stupid. I booked
57:28
my seat at the bar to watch this one, so I'm
57:33
going to go into Tokyo. Should be fun. Yeah.
57:36
Are you going to go for the Canelo Crawford?
57:40
It starts at 10 a .m., and it takes me an hour
57:43
and a half to get there. I don't know if I want
57:45
to wake up early enough to be on the train at
57:47
8 .30. The whole card starts at 10? No, I think
57:54
the fight starts at 10. The bar opens at 10.
57:57
Okay. wherever that wherever they're at on the
58:01
card at that point is yeah yeah because the the
58:04
guy who runs it that bar he's the boxing fan
58:07
like the guy who owns it so if he opens early
58:11
for these things then he's just there all day
58:13
so he's gonna work from 10 a .m to the end of
58:17
the the in a way fight oh that's a long day yeah
58:22
so makes sense they also don't really have food
58:25
at that bar So I don't think I'm... I want to
58:28
eat and stuff before I go. At a bar, when I was
58:34
in Korea, the regular bar that all of the Americans,
58:38
all the GIs went to, they would always order
58:41
stuff for you. Just because... Well, he has some
58:47
food, but it's not good. Oh. So I don't feel
58:52
like I can order food in. but I don't want to
58:57
eat there. Yeah, okay, that makes more sense.
59:00
So, I just didn't want to say that. It's not
59:03
terrible, it's just not very good for the price.
59:12
I was trying not to shit -talk my favorite bar.
59:15
Yeah, well, lean into it, and just do the order
59:23
-ins for... Order in for people? Just for everybody.
59:27
For whoever needs it, like whoever can't order
59:29
it themselves. I eat with the foreigners. I can
59:37
order food there. It's just not very good food.
59:40
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1:01:11
into a pretty busy weekend. Some pretty good
1:01:15
stuff on it. Canelo Crawford. Inouye versus MJ.
1:01:20
Parting words. Parting words. I did not think
1:01:29
of parting words for this week. Oh, nobody else
1:01:35
in the world fucking cares, but the Saskatchewan
1:01:38
Rough Riders won the 60th Labor Day Classic at
1:01:42
home. And the next weekend, we always go to Winnipeg.
1:01:47
for the Banjo Bowl is what we call it. So everybody
1:01:51
should watch the Banjo Bowl this weekend somehow.
1:01:56
It's really fun. The Riders fans wear watermelons
1:02:02
on their heads. The Blue Bombers fans have sex
1:02:05
with their cousins, you know. That's why it's
1:02:10
called the Banjo Bowl. They play this song from
1:02:13
Deliverance. Yeah. The dueling banjos. Let's
1:02:22
see. I got this one from Oscar Wilde. Life is
1:02:25
far too important a thing ever to talk seriously
1:02:28
about. It's very good, Oscar. I can get behind
1:02:33
that. It's very good, Oscar. Well done. Oscar
1:02:37
Wilde is one of the craziest stories. Yeah. Every
1:02:43
story I hear about him is madness. He definitely
1:02:48
followed that advice and did not take it too
1:02:51
seriously. Man, that's it for this edition of
1:02:56
Boxing Before Dark. My battery is getting low.
1:03:01
And it is getting dark. See you on the other
1:03:05
side, Canelo and Inouye.