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STEM Education - From Home Education to University · Home Education Matters

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  Welcome
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  to
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  Home
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  Education
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  Matters,
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  the
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  weekly
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  podcast
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  supporting
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  you
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  on
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  your
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  home
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  education
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  journey.
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  Hello,
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  and
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  welcome
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  to
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  another
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  episode
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  of
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  Home
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  Education
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  Matters.
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  And
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  today
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  I'm
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  joined
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  by
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  Farah
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  and
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  Caroline
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  from
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  the
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  UK
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  STEM
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  uni
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  group.
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  And
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  we
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  are
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  going
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  to
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  be
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  talking
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  about
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  how
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  to
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  go
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  about
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  applying
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  to
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  university
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  to
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  do
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  a
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  STEM
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  subject,
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  being
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  at
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  university,
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  doing
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  a
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  STEM
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  subject,
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  doing
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  A
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  levels
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  that
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  are
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  STEM
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  and
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  just
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  all
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  things
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  kind
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  of
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  STEM
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  Y,
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  which
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  makes
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  me
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  feel
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  like
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  we're
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  talking
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  about
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  biology
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  and.
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  Or
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  what
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  were
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  those
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  things
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  in
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  flowers?
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  You
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  know,
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  in
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  biology.
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  That's
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  the
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  only
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  thing
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  I
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  remember,
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  and
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  I
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  don't
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  remember
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  it.
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  That
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  is
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  biology
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  all
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  over
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  for
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  me.
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  It
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  was
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  such
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  a
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  totally
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  pointless
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  science.
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  I'm
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  not
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  going
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  to
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  talk
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  about
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  biology.
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  I'm
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  going
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  to
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  talk
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  about
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  stem.
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  So,
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  Farah
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  and
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  Caroline,
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  thank
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  you
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  so
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  much
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  for
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  joining
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  me
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  today.
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  Could
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  one
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  of
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  you
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  tell
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  us
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  a
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  little
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  bit
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  about
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  the
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  group
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  that
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  you've
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  set
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  up
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  and
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  your
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  kind
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  of
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  journey
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  into
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  that?
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  Okay,
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  so.
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  Hi,
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  I'm
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  Farah.
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  Yeah,
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  we
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  came
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  together.
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  We've
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  been
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  friends
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  for
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  a
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  long
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  time,
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  Caroline
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  and
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  I,
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  and
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  we,
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  incidentally,
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  we.
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  I
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  think
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  we're
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  friends
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  initially.
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  We
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  were
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  both
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  maths
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  teachers
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  when
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  we
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  met.
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  And,
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  you
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  know,
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  we.
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  It's.
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  We've
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  always
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  kind
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  of
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  connected
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  and
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  all
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  things
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  maths,
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  STEM
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  university.
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  We
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  have
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  children
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  who
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  are
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  similar
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  ages,
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  so
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  we've
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  always
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  talked
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  about
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  these
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  things
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  with
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  each
• 1:25
  other.
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  And
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  last
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  summer
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  we
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  sort
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  of
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  came
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  together
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  thinking
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  about
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  all
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  some
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  of
• 1:30
  the
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  challenges
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  around
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  STEM
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  education,
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  how
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  we
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  have
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  all
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  this
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  sort
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  of
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  combined
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  knowledge
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  with
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  having
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  been
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  through
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  the
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  process
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  with
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  our.
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  With
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  our
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  students
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  and
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  as
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  well
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  as
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  our
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  children.
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  And
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  we
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  thought,
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  you
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  know,
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  why
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  not
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  share
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  this
• 1:43
  knowledge
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  with
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  the
• 1:44
  community?
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  And
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  with
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  that
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  in
• 1:46
  mind,
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  we
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  kind
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  of
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  decided
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  to
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  launch
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  this
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  WhatsApp
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  community
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  called
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  the
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  UK
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  STEM
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  unique
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  WhatsApp
• 1:52
  group.
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  And
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  within
• 1:54
  a
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  very
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  short
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  span,
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  it
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  seems
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  to
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  have
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  grown
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  quite
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  quickly.
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  We've
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  got
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  about
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  400
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  members
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  now,
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  and
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  there
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  seems
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  to
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  be
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  quite
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  a
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  demand
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  for
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  it.
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  So,
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  yeah.
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  Caroline,
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  do
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  you
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  want
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  to
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  tell
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  us
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  something
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  about
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  the
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  group
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  and
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  what
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  led
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  you
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  into
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  it?
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  Yeah.
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  So
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  I
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  basically,
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  whenever
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  I
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  meet
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  anyone,
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  I
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  just
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  either
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  talk
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  about,
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  do
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  you
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  lift?
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  Sorry,
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  the
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  wrong
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  podcast.
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  Or
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  lift.
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  What
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  do
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  you
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  lift?
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  Because
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  I
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  lift.
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  That's
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  weightlifting,
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  isn't
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  it?
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  Weightlifting?
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  Not
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  shopping
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  bags.
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  You
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  know,
• 2:23
  I
• 2:23
  do
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  have
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  children.
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  I
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  have
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  to
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  tell
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  you
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  everything
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  I
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  know
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  about
• 2:26
  education,
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  and
• 2:27
  I've
• 2:28
  known
• 2:28
  Eleanor
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  for
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  too
• 2:30
  long
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  as
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  well,
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  and
• 2:31
  we've
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  often
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  had
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  those
• 2:32
  conversations
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  about,
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  let's
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  talk
• 2:34
  about
• 2:34
  everything
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  we
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  know
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  about
• 2:35
  education
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  and
• 2:36
  everything
• 2:36
  we
• 2:36
  can
• 2:36
  share
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  and
• 2:37
  everything
• 2:37
  we
• 2:37
  can
• 2:37
  find
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  out.
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  So
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  I
• 2:39
  thought
• 2:39
  this
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  was.
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  Rather
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  than
• 2:41
  bombarding
• 2:41
  people
• 2:43
  with
• 2:43
  my
• 2:43
  knowledge,
• 2:44
  I
• 2:44
  could
• 2:45
  actually
• 2:45
  do
• 2:46
  it
• 2:46
  in
• 2:46
  a
• 2:46
  structured
• 2:47
  way.
• 2:47
  It
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  was
• 2:48
  good
• 2:48
  that
• 2:48
  I
• 2:48
  found
• 2:48
  a
• 2:49
  partner,
• 2:49
  Farah,
• 2:50
  who
• 2:50
  can
• 2:51
  kind
• 2:51
  of
• 2:51
  make
• 2:52
  sure
• 2:52
  I
• 2:52
  don't
• 2:53
  bombard
• 2:53
  people
• 2:53
  too
• 2:54
  much
• 2:54
  and
• 2:55
  try
• 2:55
  to
• 2:56
  share
• 2:56
  my
• 2:56
  knowledge
• 2:56
  in
• 2:56
  a
• 2:57
  structured
• 2:57
  and
• 2:57
  creative
• 2:58
  way.
• 2:58
  It's
• 2:58
  been
• 2:59
  quite
• 2:59
  exciting
• 3:00
  seeing
• 3:00
  the
• 3:01
  group
• 3:01
  grow.
• 3:02
  We.
• 3:02
  Sometimes
• 3:02
  we
• 3:03
  post
• 3:03
  videos.
• 3:03
  So
• 3:04
  my
• 3:04
  last
• 3:04
  video
• 3:04
  was
• 3:05
  about
• 3:05
  how
• 3:05
  to
• 3:06
  use
• 3:06
  LinkedIn
• 3:07
  to
• 3:08
  find
• 3:08
  out
• 3:08
  about
• 3:08
  courses
• 3:09
  you're
• 3:09
  interested
• 3:09
  in.
• 3:10
  Sometimes
• 3:11
  we
• 3:11
  post
• 3:11
  infographics
• 3:12
  in
• 3:12
  the,
• 3:12
  in
• 3:13
  the
• 3:13
  group.
• 3:14
  It's
• 3:14
  not
• 3:14
  one
• 3:14
  of
• 3:14
  those
• 3:14
  groups
• 3:15
  where
• 3:15
  everyone
• 3:16
  can
• 3:16
  reply
• 3:17
  to
• 3:17
  each
• 3:17
  other.
• 3:18
  So
• 3:18
  we
• 3:18
  have
• 3:18
  a
• 3:18
  Google
• 3:19
  form
• 3:19
  where
• 3:19
  people
• 3:19
  can
• 3:20
  send
• 3:20
  questions.
• 3:21
  So
• 3:21
  if
• 3:22
  people
• 3:22
  do
• 3:22
  join
• 3:23
  the
• 3:23
  group,
• 3:23
  it's
• 3:23
  not
• 3:23
  going
• 3:23
  to
• 3:23
  be
• 3:23
  your
• 3:24
  WhatsApp
• 3:24
  going,
• 3:24
  ping,
• 3:24
  ping,
• 3:25
  ping,
• 3:25
  ping.
• 3:25
  We
• 3:26
  just
• 3:26
  post
• 3:26
  maybe
• 3:27
  five
• 3:28
  or
• 3:28
  six
• 3:28
  times
• 3:28
  a
• 3:28
  week
• 3:29
  and
• 3:30
  then.
• 3:31
  Yeah,
• 3:31
  and
• 3:31
  then
• 3:31
  we
• 3:31
  ask
• 3:32
  obviously
• 3:32
  for
• 3:32
  feedback
• 3:33
  via
• 3:33
  the
• 3:34
  Google
• 3:34
  form.
• 3:35
  So
• 3:35
  it's
• 3:35
  a
• 3:35
  WhatsApp
• 3:36
  group?
• 3:36
  It's
• 3:36
  a
• 3:37
  WhatsApp
• 3:37
  group,
• 3:37
  yes.
• 3:38
  Okay.
• 3:38
  We
• 3:38
  decided
• 3:38
  to
• 3:39
  start
• 3:39
  there
• 3:39
  because
• 3:39
  it's
• 3:39
  more
• 3:40
  personal
• 3:40
  and
• 3:41
  as
• 3:41
  well.
• 3:41
  And
• 3:41
  people.
• 3:42
  Yeah,
• 3:43
  it's.
• 3:43
  It's
• 3:44
  less
• 3:44
  formal.
• 3:45
  So
• 3:45
  what
• 3:45
  made
• 3:45
  you
• 3:46
  both
• 3:46
  think
• 3:46
  that
• 3:47
  we
• 3:47
  needed
• 3:49
  to
• 3:49
  have
• 3:49
  a
• 3:50
  group
• 3:50
  talking
• 3:51
  about
• 3:51
  stem?
• 3:51
  What
• 3:51
  is
• 3:52
  it
• 3:52
  about
• 3:52
  stem?
• 3:52
  So,
• 3:53
  first
• 3:53
  of
• 3:53
  all,
• 3:53
  you
• 3:53
  could
• 3:53
  define
• 3:53
  STEM
• 3:54
  for
• 3:54
  us
• 3:54
  for
• 3:54
  anyone
• 3:55
  who's
• 3:55
  maybe
• 3:55
  a
• 3:55
  bit
• 3:55
  unsure
• 3:56
  because
• 3:56
  a
• 3:57
  lot
• 3:57
  of
• 3:57
  our
• 3:57
  listeners
• 3:57
  aren't
• 3:58
  in
• 3:58
  the
• 3:58
  school
• 3:58
  system.
• 3:59
  So
• 3:59
  these
• 3:59
  kind
• 4:00
  of
• 4:00
  acronyms,
• 4:00
  you
• 4:01
  know,
• 4:01
  like
• 4:01
  slightly
• 4:01
  pass
• 4:02
  us
• 4:02
  by
• 4:02
  joyfully
• 4:03
  as
• 4:03
  home
• 4:03
  educators.
• 4:04
  But
• 4:04
  also,
• 4:05
  what,
• 4:05
  what
• 4:05
  was
• 4:05
  it
• 4:06
  about
• 4:06
  STEM
• 4:07
  that
• 4:07
  made
• 4:07
  you
• 4:07
  think,
• 4:07
  okay,
• 4:08
  people
• 4:08
  need
• 4:08
  support
• 4:08
  in
• 4:09
  this
• 4:09
  area?
• 4:10
  So
• 4:10
  STEM
• 4:11
  stands
• 4:11
  for
• 4:11
  science,
• 4:12
  technology,
• 4:13
  engineering
• 4:13
  and
• 4:14
  mathematics.
• 4:15
  It's
• 4:15
  an
• 4:16
  intersection
• 4:16
  of
• 4:16
  those
• 4:17
  disciplines.
• 4:17
  And
• 4:18
  in
• 4:18
  the
• 4:18
  case
• 4:18
  of
• 4:19
  Caroline,
• 4:19
  and
• 4:19
  I
• 4:19
  think,
• 4:20
  let
• 4:20
  me
• 4:20
  just
• 4:20
  tell
• 4:20
  you
• 4:20
  a
• 4:20
  little
• 4:20
  bit
• 4:21
  about
• 4:21
  who
• 4:21
  I
• 4:21
  am
• 4:21
  and
• 4:22
  maybe
• 4:22
  Caroline
• 4:22
  can
• 4:22
  do
• 4:22
  the
• 4:23
  same.
• 4:23
  I
• 4:23
  came
• 4:23
  at
• 4:24
  it,
• 4:24
  sorry,
• 4:24
  from
• 4:24
  a,
• 4:25
  From
• 4:26
  a
• 4:26
  point
• 4:26
  of
• 4:26
  being
• 4:26
  a
• 4:26
  head
• 4:27
  of
• 4:27
  maths.
• 4:27
  So
• 4:28
  I've
• 4:28
  been
• 4:28
  teaching
• 4:28
  maths
• 4:29
  for
• 4:29
  about
• 4:29
  15
• 4:30
  plus
• 4:30
  years
• 4:31
  and
• 4:31
  then
• 4:31
  I've
• 4:32
  been
• 4:32
  head
• 4:32
  of
• 4:32
  maths
• 4:32
  and
• 4:33
  a
• 4:33
  six
• 4:33
  form
• 4:33
  tutor
• 4:34
  who
• 4:34
  for
• 4:34
  the
• 4:34
  last
• 4:35
  five
• 4:35
  or
• 4:35
  six,
• 4:36
  where
• 4:36
  I
• 4:37
  came
• 4:37
  from,
• 4:37
  I
• 4:38
  saw
• 4:38
  lots
• 4:38
  of
• 4:38
  girls
• 4:40
  looking
• 4:40
  at
• 4:40
  STEM
• 4:41
  subjects
• 4:42
  in
• 4:42
  those
• 4:42
  areas
• 4:43
  and
• 4:43
  thinking,
• 4:44
  you
• 4:44
  know
• 4:44
  what,
• 4:44
  I'm
• 4:45
  not
• 4:45
  sure
• 4:45
  if
• 4:45
  I'm
• 4:45
  good
• 4:45
  enough
• 4:46
  to
• 4:46
  apply
• 4:46
  to
• 4:46
  this
• 4:47
  or,
• 4:47
  you
• 4:47
  know,
• 4:49
  I
• 4:49
  think
• 4:49
  there's
• 4:49
  a
• 4:50
  bit
• 4:50
  of
• 4:50
  a
• 4:50
  shortage
• 4:50
  of
• 4:50
  role
• 4:50
  models
• 4:51
  in
• 4:51
  the
• 4:51
  STEM
• 4:51
  industry.
• 4:52
  Historically
• 4:53
  has
• 4:53
  been.
• 4:53
  It's
• 4:54
  been
• 4:54
  a
• 4:54
  bit
• 4:54
  of
• 4:54
  a
• 4:54
  challenge
• 4:55
  getting
• 4:55
  girls
• 4:56
  into
• 4:56
  STEM
• 4:57
  education.
• 4:58
  There's
• 4:58
  also
• 4:58
  a
• 4:58
  bit
• 4:59
  of
• 4:59
  a
• 4:59
  disadvantage
• 4:59
  gap
• 5:00
  around
• 5:00
  stem.
• 5:00
  And
• 5:01
  those
• 5:01
  are
• 5:01
  all
• 5:01
  things
• 5:01
  that
• 5:01
  have
• 5:01
  always
• 5:02
  been
• 5:02
  in
• 5:02
  the
• 5:02
  back
• 5:02
  of
• 5:02
  my
• 5:03
  mind.
• 5:03
  And
• 5:03
  I've
• 5:03
  been
• 5:04
  someone
• 5:04
  who
• 5:04
  wants
• 5:04
  to
• 5:04
  be
• 5:04
  a
• 5:05
  proponent
• 5:05
  for
• 5:05
  getting
• 5:05
  girls
• 5:06
  and
• 5:07
  generally
• 5:07
  as
• 5:08
  many
• 5:08
  students
• 5:08
  as
• 5:08
  possible
• 5:09
  into
• 5:10
  STEM
• 5:10
  subjects.
• 5:11
  And
• 5:11
  the
• 5:11
  challenges
• 5:12
  lie
• 5:12
  in
• 5:13
  sometimes,
• 5:13
  you
• 5:14
  know,
• 5:14
  not
• 5:14
  having
• 5:15
  enough
• 5:15
  information
• 5:16
  about
• 5:16
  things
• 5:17
  like
• 5:17
  university
• 5:18
  taster
• 5:18
  days
• 5:19
  and
• 5:19
  feeding
• 5:19
  and
• 5:20
  all
• 5:20
  of
• 5:20
  these
• 5:20
  things.
• 5:20
  And
• 5:21
  I
• 5:21
  felt
• 5:21
  we
• 5:21
  have
• 5:21
  this
• 5:21
  wealth
• 5:22
  of
• 5:22
  knowledge.
• 5:22
  Why
• 5:23
  not
• 5:23
  put
• 5:23
  it
• 5:23
  out
• 5:23
  there?
• 5:23
  Why
• 5:23
  not
• 5:24
  share
• 5:24
  it
• 5:24
  with
• 5:24
  the
• 5:24
  community
• 5:26
  so
• 5:26
  we
• 5:26
  can
• 5:26
  sort
• 5:26
  of
• 5:27
  lift
• 5:27
  up
• 5:27
  the
• 5:28
  profile
• 5:28
  of
• 5:28
  the
• 5:28
  people
• 5:28
  who
• 5:29
  apply
• 5:29
  to
• 5:29
  STEM
• 5:29
  and
• 5:30
  allow
• 5:30
  access
• 5:30
  to
• 5:30
  people
• 5:31
  who
• 5:31
  may
• 5:31
  not
• 5:31
  otherwise
• 5:32
  have
• 5:32
  access
• 5:32
  to
• 5:33
  STEM
• 5:33
  subjects.
• 5:33
  And
• 5:34
  also
• 5:34
  this
• 5:34
  idea,
• 5:34
  I
• 5:35
  think
• 5:35
  another
• 5:35
  thing
• 5:35
  that
• 5:35
  drove
• 5:36
  us
• 5:36
  was
• 5:36
  this
• 5:36
  idea
• 5:37
  of
• 5:37
  all
• 5:38
  I
• 5:38
  can
• 5:38
  do
• 5:38
  with
• 5:38
  a
• 5:38
  maths
• 5:39
  degree
• 5:39
  is
• 5:39
  accounting
• 5:39
  and
• 5:40
  finance.
• 5:40
  And,
• 5:41
  you
• 5:41
  know,
• 5:41
  there
• 5:41
  is
• 5:42
  so
• 5:42
  much
• 5:43
  more.
• 5:43
  We
• 5:43
  talk
• 5:43
  about
• 5:43
  this
• 5:44
  a
• 5:44
  lot.
• 5:44
  There's
• 5:44
  a
• 5:45
  vast
• 5:45
  amount
• 5:45
  that
• 5:45
  you
• 5:45
  can
• 5:46
  do
• 5:46
  with
• 5:46
  a
• 5:46
  maths
• 5:47
  degree.
• 5:47
  And
• 5:47
  us
• 5:48
  being
• 5:48
  both
• 5:48
  maths
• 5:48
  educators,
• 5:49
  I
• 5:49
  think
• 5:49
  we
• 5:49
  felt
• 5:50
  we
• 5:50
  needed
• 5:50
  to
• 5:50
  kind
• 5:50
  of
• 5:51
  expand
• 5:51
  people's
• 5:51
  horizons
• 5:52
  with
• 5:52
  what
• 5:52
  maths
• 5:53
  can
• 5:53
  do
• 5:53
  for
• 5:53
  them.
• 5:54
  That's
• 5:54
  interesting
• 5:55
  because
• 5:55
  I
• 5:55
  always
• 5:55
  thought
• 5:56
  that
• 5:56
  the
• 5:56
  only
• 5:56
  thing
• 5:56
  you
• 5:57
  could
• 5:57
  do
• 5:57
  if
• 5:57
  you
• 5:57
  had
• 5:57
  a
• 5:57
  maths
• 5:58
  degree
• 5:58
  was
• 5:58
  become
• 5:58
  a
• 5:58
  maths
• 5:59
  teacher.
• 5:59
  So
• 6:00
  I
• 6:00
  had
• 6:00
  never
• 6:00
  even
• 6:01
  occurred
• 6:01
  to
• 6:01
  me
• 6:01
  that
• 6:01
  you
• 6:02
  needed
• 6:02
  a
• 6:02
  master
• 6:02
  degree
• 6:02
  to
• 6:02
  be
• 6:03
  an
• 6:03
  accountant.
• 6:03
  I'm
• 6:03
  pretty
• 6:03
  sure
• 6:03
  you
• 6:04
  don't.
• 6:04
  I
• 6:04
  think
• 6:04
  you
• 6:04
  just
• 6:04
  do,
• 6:04
  like
• 6:05
  exam.
• 6:05
  Sorry.
• 6:06
  But
• 6:06
  anyway,
• 6:06
  so
• 6:06
  that's
• 6:07
  very
• 6:07
  interesting
• 6:07
  because
• 6:07
  I
• 6:07
  know
• 6:07
  that
• 6:08
  when
• 6:08
  my
• 6:08
  son
• 6:08
  was
• 6:09
  looking
• 6:09
  at
• 6:09
  a
• 6:09
  physics
• 6:09
  degree,
• 6:10
  I
• 6:11
  pretty
• 6:11
  much
• 6:11
  said
• 6:11
  to
• 6:12
  him,
• 6:12
  well,
• 6:12
  yeah,
• 6:12
  that's
• 6:12
  fine,
• 6:13
  but
• 6:13
  you
• 6:13
  know
• 6:13
  what,
• 6:13
  do
• 6:13
  you
• 6:14
  either
• 6:14
  become
• 6:15
  an
• 6:15
  academic
• 6:15
  or
• 6:16
  you
• 6:16
  become
• 6:16
  a
• 6:16
  physics
• 6:17
  teacher?
• 6:17
  And
• 6:17
  Caroline,
• 6:18
  when
• 6:18
  I
• 6:18
  spoke
• 6:18
  to
• 6:18
  her
• 6:18
  and
• 6:18
  I
• 6:19
  was
• 6:19
  like,
• 6:19
  no.
• 6:21
  Wrong.
• 6:22
  So
• 6:22
  it's
• 6:23
  really
• 6:23
  interesting.
• 6:23
  Caroline,
• 6:24
  tell
• 6:24
  us
• 6:24
  your
• 6:24
  story.
• 6:25
  So
• 6:25
  I'm
• 6:26
  actually
• 6:26
  an
• 6:26
  engineer.
• 6:27
  I
• 6:27
  did
• 6:27
  engineering
• 6:28
  as
• 6:28
  my
• 6:28
  degree.
• 6:28
  So
• 6:29
  I'm.
• 6:29
  I'm
• 6:29
  actually
• 6:29
  a
• 6:30
  fake
• 6:30
  maths
• 6:30
  teacher.
• 6:32
  I've
• 6:32
  always
• 6:32
  been
• 6:33
  super
• 6:33
  passionate
• 6:33
  about
• 6:34
  STEM
• 6:34
  and
• 6:35
  girls
• 6:35
  in
• 6:35
  stem.
• 6:36
  I've
• 6:37
  actually
• 6:37
  got
• 6:37
  three
• 6:37
  boys,
• 6:38
  two
• 6:38
  of
• 6:39
  whom
• 6:39
  I
• 6:39
  homeschooled.
• 6:40
  So,
• 6:41
  yeah,
• 6:42
  if
• 6:42
  I
• 6:42
  talk
• 6:42
  a
• 6:42
  bit
• 6:42
  about
• 6:42
  the
• 6:42
  homeschool
• 6:43
  journey,
• 6:43
  I
• 6:43
  homeschooled
• 6:44
  one
• 6:44
  child
• 6:45
  from
• 6:45
  about
• 6:45
  age
• 6:46
  7
• 6:46
  until
• 6:47
  age
• 6:47
  16
• 6:47
  and
• 6:48
  then
• 6:48
  he
• 6:48
  decided
• 6:48
  to
• 6:48
  go
• 6:49
  to
• 6:49
  school
• 6:49
  for
• 6:50
  sixth
• 6:50
  form.
• 6:50
  And
• 6:51
  then
• 6:51
  the
• 6:51
  other
• 6:51
  child
• 6:52
  from
• 6:52
  my
• 6:53
  other
• 6:53
  son
• 6:53
  from
• 6:54
  age
• 6:54
  12,
• 6:55
  and
• 6:55
  he's
• 6:56
  just
• 6:56
  started
• 6:56
  his
• 6:57
  A
• 6:57
  levels
• 6:57
  now.
• 6:58
  Home,
• 6:58
  home,
• 6:59
  educating
• 6:59
  A
• 6:59
  levels
• 7:00
  as
• 7:00
  well.
• 7:00
  So
• 7:01
  that's
• 7:01
  been
• 7:01
  a,
• 7:01
  you
• 7:02
  know,
• 7:02
  nearly
• 7:02
  the
• 7:02
  end
• 7:02
  of
• 7:03
  my
• 7:03
  homeschool
• 7:03
  journey
• 7:04
  in
• 7:04
  the
• 7:05
  next
• 7:05
  few
• 7:05
  years.
• 7:06
  We've
• 7:06
  always
• 7:06
  been
• 7:07
  quite
• 7:07
  a
• 7:07
  stemi
• 7:08
  family.
• 7:08
  My
• 7:08
  husband
• 7:09
  did
• 7:09
  a
• 7:09
  degree
• 7:10
  in
• 7:10
  maths,
• 7:10
  I
• 7:10
  did
• 7:11
  civil
• 7:11
  engineering.
• 7:12
  We
• 7:12
  met
• 7:12
  at
• 7:12
  university.
• 7:13
  Our
• 7:13
  children
• 7:14
  have
• 7:14
  all
• 7:14
  done
• 7:15
  maths
• 7:15
  A
• 7:16
  level.
• 7:17
  My
• 7:17
  daughter
• 7:17
  is.
• 7:18
  She
• 7:18
  did
• 7:19
  computer
• 7:19
  science
• 7:19
  and
• 7:20
  is
• 7:20
  a
• 7:20
  Software
• 7:20
  engineer.
• 7:21
  So
• 7:21
  we
• 7:21
  kind
• 7:21
  of
• 7:21
  are
• 7:23
  that
• 7:23
  nerd
• 7:23
  family.
• 7:24
  The
• 7:24
  word
• 7:24
  nerd
• 7:24
  is
• 7:25
  actually
• 7:25
  seen
• 7:25
  as
• 7:26
  a
• 7:27
  compliment.
• 7:29
  As
• 7:30
  such.
• 7:30
  Rightly
• 7:31
  so.
• 7:32
  Exactly.
• 7:33
  And
• 7:34
  I
• 7:34
  think
• 7:35
  it's
• 7:35
  just
• 7:35
  as
• 7:35
  well.
• 7:36
  Meeting
• 7:37
  my
• 7:37
  son,
• 7:37
  my
• 7:38
  eldest
• 7:38
  son,
• 7:38
  he
• 7:39
  did
• 7:39
  a
• 7:39
  maths
• 7:39
  degree
• 7:40
  and
• 7:40
  then
• 7:40
  has
• 7:40
  done
• 7:40
  a
• 7:41
  maths
• 7:41
  masters
• 7:42
  and
• 7:42
  now
• 7:42
  he's
• 7:42
  doing
• 7:42
  a
• 7:43
  PhD
• 7:43
  and
• 7:44
  actually
• 7:44
  connecting
• 7:45
  with
• 7:45
  all
• 7:46
  his
• 7:46
  colleagues
• 7:47
  or
• 7:47
  the
• 7:47
  other
• 7:47
  his
• 7:48
  fellow
• 7:48
  students
• 7:48
  has
• 7:49
  been
• 7:49
  amazing
• 7:49
  just
• 7:50
  to
• 7:50
  see
• 7:50
  the
• 7:50
  kinds
• 7:50
  of
• 7:51
  careers
• 7:51
  they've
• 7:51
  gone
• 7:51
  on
• 7:52
  to.
• 7:53
  One
• 7:53
  of
• 7:53
  them
• 7:53
  has
• 7:53
  gone
• 7:54
  into
• 7:54
  quant
• 7:54
  finance
• 7:55
  and
• 7:55
  is
• 7:55
  earning
• 7:56
  gabillions
• 7:57
  amounts
• 7:57
  of
• 7:57
  money.
• 7:58
  One
• 7:58
  of
• 7:58
  them
• 7:59
  is
• 8:00
  a,
• 8:00
  is
• 8:01
  the
• 8:01
  mathematician
• 8:02
  in
• 8:02
  a
• 8:03
  biochemistry
• 8:04
  lab
• 8:04
  in
• 8:04
  a
• 8:04
  university.
• 8:05
  There's
• 8:06
  so
• 8:06
  many,
• 8:06
  there's
• 8:06
  such
• 8:07
  a
• 8:07
  wide
• 8:07
  range
• 8:07
  of
• 8:08
  careers
• 8:09
  you
• 8:09
  can
• 8:09
  do
• 8:10
  with
• 8:10
  a
• 8:10
  maths
• 8:10
  degree.
• 8:11
  It's
• 8:12
  amazing
• 8:12
  and
• 8:12
  I
• 8:13
  don't
• 8:13
  think
• 8:13
  people
• 8:13
  know
• 8:13
  that.
• 8:14
  It's
• 8:14
  definitely
• 8:15
  not
• 8:15
  just
• 8:16
  teaching
• 8:17
  or
• 8:18
  going
• 8:18
  into
• 8:18
  academia.
• 8:19
  There's
• 8:20
  so
• 8:20
  many
• 8:21
  different
• 8:21
  paths.
• 8:22
  I
• 8:22
  think
• 8:22
  one
• 8:22
  thing
• 8:23
  we
• 8:23
  posted
• 8:23
  recently
• 8:23
  on
• 8:24
  the
• 8:24
  group,
• 8:24
  if
• 8:24
  you
• 8:25
  allow
• 8:25
  me
• 8:25
  to
• 8:25
  get
• 8:25
  super
• 8:25
  enthusiastic
• 8:26
  again
• 8:27
  for
• 8:27
  a
• 8:27
  moment,
• 8:28
  was
• 8:28
  that
• 8:29
  the,
• 8:30
  what's
• 8:31
  it
• 8:31
  called?
• 8:31
  The
• 8:31
  race
• 8:31
  director.
• 8:32
  So
• 8:32
  the,
• 8:32
  the
• 8:33
  chief
• 8:33
  of
• 8:33
  strategy
• 8:33
  at
• 8:34
  McLaren
• 8:35
  F1
• 8:35
  champions
• 8:36
  this
• 8:36
  year,
• 8:37
  he
• 8:38
  was
• 8:38
  a
• 8:39
  STEM
• 8:40
  maths
• 8:40
  graduate
• 8:41
  from
• 8:41
  Oxford
• 8:41
  University.
• 8:43
  So
• 8:43
  you
• 8:43
  know,
• 8:43
  he
• 8:43
  studied
• 8:44
  math,
• 8:44
  he
• 8:44
  did
• 8:44
  A
• 8:45
  level
• 8:45
  maths
• 8:45
  just
• 8:45
  like
• 8:46
  a
• 8:46
  lot
• 8:46
  of
• 8:46
  students
• 8:46
  do.
• 8:47
  And
• 8:47
  now
• 8:47
  he's
• 8:47
  basically
• 8:48
  got
• 8:48
  the
• 8:48
  coolest
• 8:49
  job
• 8:49
  in
• 8:49
  the
• 8:49
  world
• 8:50
  telling
• 8:50
  the
• 8:50
  drivers
• 8:51
  exactly,
• 8:52
  you
• 8:52
  know,
• 8:52
  drive
• 8:53
  like
• 8:53
  this
• 8:53
  and
• 8:54
  put
• 8:54
  more
• 8:54
  of
• 8:55
  this,
• 8:55
  pump
• 8:55
  more
• 8:56
  of
• 8:56
  this
• 8:56
  thing
• 8:56
  in
• 8:57
  and
• 8:57
  you
• 8:57
  know,
• 8:58
  it's
• 8:58
  just
• 8:58
  like
• 8:59
  super
• 8:59
  cool.
• 9:00
  And
• 9:00
  there's
• 9:00
  so
• 9:01
  many
• 9:01
  different
• 9:01
  careers.
• 9:03
  We're
• 9:03
  going
• 9:03
  to
• 9:04
  be
• 9:04
  posting
• 9:04
  lots
• 9:04
  of
• 9:05
  that
• 9:05
  in
• 9:05
  the
• 9:05
  WhatsApp
• 9:06
  group
• 9:06
  because
• 9:07
  we
• 9:07
  keep
• 9:07
  on
• 9:07
  sending
• 9:07
  each
• 9:08
  other's
• 9:08
  message,
• 9:08
  each
• 9:08
  other
• 9:09
  messages,
• 9:09
  me
• 9:09
  and
• 9:09
  Farah
• 9:10
  saying,
• 9:10
  look
• 9:10
  at
• 9:10
  this,
• 9:10
  this
• 9:11
  is
• 9:11
  cool
• 9:11
  kind
• 9:12
  of
• 9:12
  thing.
• 9:12
  So
• 9:12
  yeah,
• 9:13
  we're
• 9:13
  sharing
• 9:13
  with
• 9:13
  the
• 9:14
  passion
• 9:14
  and
• 9:14
  enthusiasm
• 9:15
  and
• 9:16
  you
• 9:16
  know,
• 9:16
  lots
• 9:16
  of
• 9:16
  nerdery
• 9:17
  as
• 9:17
  well.
• 9:18
  You're
• 9:18
  flying
• 9:18
  the
• 9:19
  flag
• 9:19
  for
• 9:19
  STEM
• 9:20
  nerdery.
• 9:20
  Okay,
• 9:21
  I
• 9:21
  like
• 9:21
  that.
• 9:21
  So
• 9:22
  when
• 9:22
  it
• 9:22
  comes
• 9:22
  to
• 9:23
  stem,
• 9:24
  you
• 9:24
  obviously
• 9:25
  sound
• 9:25
  like
• 9:25
  you're
• 9:25
  both
• 9:25
  very
• 9:26
  stemmy
• 9:27
  and
• 9:27
  I
• 9:28
  have
• 9:28
  a
• 9:28
  child
• 9:29
  who's
• 9:29
  very
• 9:29
  stemi
• 9:30
  and
• 9:30
  a
• 9:30
  child
• 9:30
  who's
• 9:31
  not
• 9:31
  at
• 9:31
  all
• 9:31
  stemi.
• 9:32
  Now
• 9:32
  I
• 9:32
  can
• 9:32
  safely
• 9:33
  say
• 9:33
  that
• 9:33
  home
• 9:34
  educating
• 9:34
  my
• 9:35
  non
• 9:35
  stemi
• 9:36
  child
• 9:36
  has
• 9:37
  been
• 9:37
  a
• 9:37
  lot
• 9:37
  easier
• 9:37
  and
• 9:38
  cheaper
• 9:38
  than
• 9:38
  home
• 9:39
  educating
• 9:39
  my
• 9:39
  stemi
• 9:40
  child,
• 9:40
  particularly
• 9:40
  through
• 9:41
  A
• 9:41
  levels.
• 9:42
  Now
• 9:42
  when
• 9:42
  you
• 9:43
  home
• 9:43
  educate
• 9:44
  someone
• 9:44
  who's
• 9:45
  interested
• 9:45
  in
• 9:45
  stem,
• 9:46
  it's
• 9:46
  quite
• 9:47
  difficult
• 9:47
  at
• 9:47
  A
• 9:48
  levels,
• 9:48
  isn't
• 9:48
  it?
• 9:49
  To
• 9:49
  home
• 9:49
  educate
• 9:50
  stem
• 9:50
  because
• 9:51
  science
• 9:51
  A
• 9:51
  levels
• 9:52
  require
• 9:53
  practicals
• 9:54
  where
• 9:54
  they
• 9:54
  don't,
• 9:54
  they
• 9:54
  don't
• 9:55
  have
• 9:55
  to.
• 9:55
  I
• 9:55
  know,
• 9:55
  but
• 9:56
  a
• 9:56
  lot
• 9:56
  of
• 9:56
  universities
• 9:57
  really
• 9:57
  will
• 9:57
  Want
• 9:57
  you
• 9:58
  to
• 9:58
  do
• 9:58
  practicals,
• 9:59
  then
• 10:00
  you.
• 10:00
  So
• 10:00
  you
• 10:00
  have
• 10:00
  to
• 10:00
  pay
• 10:00
  for
• 10:00
  the
• 10:00
  practicals.
• 10:01
  A
• 10:01
  levels
• 10:02
  themselves
• 10:02
  are
• 10:02
  expensive.
• 10:03
  So
• 10:03
  talk
• 10:03
  to
• 10:04
  us
• 10:04
  about
• 10:04
  the
• 10:04
  challenges
• 10:05
  of.
• 10:06
  I
• 10:06
  don't
• 10:06
  want
• 10:06
  to
• 10:06
  say
• 10:06
  teaching
• 10:07
  stem,
• 10:07
  but
• 10:08
  talk
• 10:08
  to
• 10:08
  us
• 10:08
  about
• 10:08
  the
• 10:08
  challenges
• 10:09
  of
• 10:09
  home
• 10:09
  educating
• 10:10
  STEM
• 10:11
  subjects
• 10:11
  from
• 10:11
  like
• 10:12
  GCSE
• 10:13
  through
• 10:13
  A
• 10:13
  level.
• 10:14
  Yeah,
• 10:15
  I
• 10:15
  think
• 10:15
  for
• 10:16
  my,
• 10:16
  my
• 10:17
  first
• 10:17
  homeschooler,
• 10:18
  I
• 10:18
  think
• 10:18
  one
• 10:18
  of
• 10:18
  the
• 10:18
  reasons
• 10:19
  he
• 10:19
  decided
• 10:19
  to
• 10:20
  go
• 10:20
  to
• 10:20
  school
• 10:20
  for
• 10:20
  sixth
• 10:21
  form
• 10:21
  is
• 10:21
  that
• 10:21
  he
• 10:22
  really
• 10:22
  loved
• 10:22
  chemistry.
• 10:23
  And
• 10:23
  we
• 10:24
  just
• 10:24
  casually
• 10:24
  went
• 10:25
  to
• 10:25
  an
• 10:25
  open
• 10:25
  day
• 10:25
  at
• 10:26
  a
• 10:26
  local
• 10:27
  school,
• 10:27
  sixth
• 10:28
  form,
• 10:29
  just
• 10:29
  because
• 10:29
  it
• 10:30
  had
• 10:30
  nice
• 10:30
  buildings
• 10:30
  and
• 10:31
  nice
• 10:31
  grounds.
• 10:32
  And
• 10:32
  as
• 10:32
  soon
• 10:32
  as
• 10:33
  he
• 10:33
  saw
• 10:33
  the
• 10:33
  science
• 10:33
  labs,
• 10:34
  he
• 10:34
  said,
• 10:34
  I
• 10:34
  want
• 10:35
  to
• 10:35
  come
• 10:35
  here,
• 10:35
  please.
• 10:36
  Because
• 10:36
  he'd
• 10:36
  never
• 10:37
  done
• 10:37
  chemistry
• 10:38
  experiments,
• 10:38
  not
• 10:39
  proper
• 10:39
  chemistry,
• 10:40
  maybe
• 10:40
  some
• 10:40
  of
• 10:40
  the
• 10:40
  home
• 10:41
  ones
• 10:41
  that
• 10:41
  we
• 10:42
  can
• 10:42
  do,
• 10:42
  but
• 10:43
  he
• 10:43
  hadn't
• 10:43
  done
• 10:43
  real.
• 10:44
  Hadn't
• 10:44
  been
• 10:44
  in
• 10:45
  a
• 10:45
  real
• 10:45
  lab,
• 10:45
  hadn't
• 10:45
  used
• 10:46
  a
• 10:46
  Bunsen
• 10:46
  burner.
• 10:47
  So,
• 10:48
  yeah,
• 10:48
  that
• 10:48
  is
• 10:48
  obviously
• 10:49
  a
• 10:49
  disadvantage.
• 10:50
  I
• 10:50
  think
• 10:51
  there
• 10:51
  are
• 10:51
  some
• 10:51
  courses
• 10:52
  around
• 10:52
  the
• 10:52
  country
• 10:53
  that
• 10:53
  run
• 10:53
  to.
• 10:54
  To
• 10:54
  actually.
• 10:54
  So
• 10:55
  you
• 10:55
  can
• 10:55
  actually
• 10:55
  do
• 10:56
  the
• 10:56
  practicals.
• 10:56
  But
• 10:57
  again,
• 10:57
  it's
• 10:58
  the
• 10:58
  timing,
• 10:58
  it's
• 10:58
  accessibility.
• 10:59
  Is
• 11:00
  it
• 11:00
  local
• 11:00
  to
• 11:00
  you?
• 11:01
  So
• 11:01
  that
• 11:02
  was
• 11:02
  one
• 11:02
  of
• 11:02
  the
• 11:02
  reasons
• 11:03
  my
• 11:03
  older
• 11:04
  son,
• 11:05
  he's
• 11:06
  actually
• 11:06
  homeschooling
• 11:07
  A
• 11:07
  levels,
• 11:08
  he's
• 11:08
  doing
• 11:08
  A
• 11:08
  level
• 11:09
  chemistry,
• 11:09
  but
• 11:10
  he's
• 11:10
  doing
• 11:11
  that
• 11:11
  with
• 11:11
  an
• 11:12
  online
• 11:12
  school.
• 11:13
  And
• 11:13
  he'll
• 11:13
  be
• 11:13
  doing
• 11:13
  the
• 11:14
  international
• 11:14
  A
• 11:15
  level,
• 11:16
  which
• 11:16
  has
• 11:16
  just
• 11:16
  been
• 11:17
  introduced,
• 11:17
  hasn't
• 11:17
  it,
• 11:18
  into
• 11:18
  the
• 11:18
  uk,
• 11:18
  I
• 11:18
  think,
• 11:19
  the
• 11:19
  past
• 11:19
  few
• 11:19
  years.
• 11:20
  So
• 11:20
  in
• 11:20
  the
• 11:21
  international
• 11:21
  A
• 11:21
  level,
• 11:22
  the
• 11:22
  practicals
• 11:23
  are
• 11:24
  tested
• 11:24
  through
• 11:25
  questions
• 11:25
  on
• 11:25
  the
• 11:25
  paper,
• 11:26
  so
• 11:26
  there's
• 11:26
  no
• 11:26
  need
• 11:27
  to
• 11:27
  actually
• 11:27
  do
• 11:28
  the
• 11:28
  practical
• 11:29
  separately
• 11:29
  and
• 11:30
  it's
• 11:30
  completely
• 11:30
  accepted
• 11:31
  by
• 11:31
  all
• 11:31
  the
• 11:31
  universities
• 11:32
  in
• 11:32
  the
• 11:32
  UK
• 11:32
  as
• 11:33
  an
• 11:33
  alternative
• 11:33
  to
• 11:34
  the
• 11:34
  standard.
• 11:35
  That's
• 11:35
  very
• 11:36
  like
• 11:36
  the
• 11:36
  international
• 11:37
  GCSE
• 11:37
  in
• 11:38
  that
• 11:38
  way
• 11:38
  then,
• 11:38
  where
• 11:39
  you
• 11:39
  have
• 11:39
  to
• 11:40
  do,
• 11:40
  you
• 11:40
  have
• 11:40
  to
• 11:40
  understand
• 11:41
  how
• 11:41
  the
• 11:41
  practicals
• 11:41
  work.
• 11:42
  But
• 11:42
  you
• 11:42
  are
• 11:42
  tested
• 11:43
  as
• 11:43
  part
• 11:43
  of
• 11:44
  the
• 11:44
  written
• 11:44
  exam.
• 11:45
  Exactly.
• 11:45
  It's
• 11:46
  totally
• 11:46
  like
• 11:46
  that,
• 11:47
  yes.
• 11:47
  Do
• 11:48
  you
• 11:48
  worry
• 11:48
  then
• 11:48
  that
• 11:49
  he's
• 11:49
  going
• 11:49
  to
• 11:50
  miss
• 11:50
  out
• 11:50
  on
• 11:51
  the
• 11:52
  Bunsen
• 11:52
  burner
• 11:52
  stuff?
• 11:53
  You
• 11:53
  know,
• 11:53
  because
• 11:53
  I
• 11:53
  know
• 11:54
  that
• 11:54
  when
• 11:54
  I
• 11:54
  spoke
• 11:54
  to
• 11:54
  a
• 11:55
  biology,
• 11:55
  when
• 11:56
  I
• 11:56
  did
• 11:56
  the
• 11:56
  biology
• 11:57
  podcast,
• 11:58
  I
• 11:58
  spoke
• 11:58
  to.
• 11:59
  I
• 11:59
  spoke
• 11:59
  to
• 11:59
  the
• 12:00
  biology
• 12:00
  teacher
• 12:01
  as
• 12:01
  part
• 12:01
  of
• 12:01
  the
• 12:01
  biology
• 12:02
  podcast
• 12:02
  and
• 12:02
  I
• 12:02
  said,
• 12:02
  you
• 12:02
  know,
• 12:03
  I
• 12:03
  really
• 12:03
  worry
• 12:03
  that
• 12:03
  home
• 12:03
  educated
• 12:04
  children
• 12:04
  miss
• 12:04
  out
• 12:05
  on
• 12:05
  the
• 12:05
  practical
• 12:06
  side
• 12:06
  of
• 12:06
  science.
• 12:07
  And
• 12:07
  she
• 12:07
  said,
• 12:07
  I
• 12:08
  really
• 12:08
  think
• 12:08
  you
• 12:08
  overestimate
• 12:09
  how
• 12:09
  much
• 12:09
  actual
• 12:10
  practical
• 12:10
  stuff
• 12:11
  they
• 12:11
  do
• 12:11
  at
• 12:11
  school.
• 12:12
  She
• 12:12
  said,
• 12:12
  quite
• 12:12
  often
• 12:13
  they
• 12:13
  don't
• 12:13
  actually
• 12:13
  have
• 12:14
  a
• 12:14
  specialist
• 12:14
  teacher,
• 12:15
  they
• 12:15
  don't
• 12:16
  have
• 12:16
  the
• 12:16
  health
• 12:16
  and
• 12:16
  safety
• 12:17
  to
• 12:17
  be
• 12:17
  able
• 12:17
  to
• 12:17
  do
• 12:17
  the
• 12:18
  practicals.
• 12:18
  You're
• 12:18
  talking
• 12:19
  like
• 12:19
  one
• 12:19
  or
• 12:19
  two
• 12:19
  A
• 12:19
  year,
• 12:20
  if
• 12:20
  you're
• 12:20
  lucky.
• 12:21
  And
• 12:21
  a
• 12:21
  lot
• 12:21
  of
• 12:21
  those
• 12:21
  aren't
• 12:22
  the
• 12:22
  fun
• 12:22
  stuff
• 12:22
  that
• 12:23
  you
• 12:23
  might
• 12:23
  remember
• 12:23
  from
• 12:23
  school
• 12:24
  with
• 12:24
  the
• 12:24
  like,
• 12:24
  you
• 12:24
  know,
• 12:24
  burning
• 12:25
  magnesium
• 12:25
  and
• 12:25
  seeing
• 12:26
  the
• 12:26
  white
• 12:26
  flame
• 12:26
  or
• 12:26
  whatever.
• 12:27
  Actually,
• 12:27
  I
• 12:27
  probably
• 12:27
  got
• 12:28
  that
• 12:28
  color
• 12:28
  wrong.
• 12:28
  But
• 12:28
  anyway,
• 12:29
  so
• 12:29
  do
• 12:30
  you.
• 12:30
  But
• 12:30
  do
• 12:30
  you
• 12:30
  feel
• 12:31
  that,
• 12:31
  particularly
• 12:31
  at
• 12:32
  A
• 12:32
  level
• 12:32
  that
• 12:32
  your
• 12:33
  son,
• 12:33
  who's
• 12:34
  home
• 12:34
  educating
• 12:34
  and
• 12:34
  he's.
• 12:35
  And
• 12:35
  he
• 12:35
  just
• 12:36
  learning
• 12:37
  about
• 12:37
  the
• 12:37
  experiments
• 12:38
  rather
• 12:38
  than
• 12:38
  doing
• 12:38
  them,
• 12:39
  that
• 12:39
  he's
• 12:39
  going
• 12:39
  to
• 12:39
  miss
• 12:39
  out
• 12:40
  on
• 12:40
  an
• 12:40
  element
• 12:40
  of.
• 12:40
  That
• 12:41
  that
• 12:41
  is
• 12:42
  interesting?
• 12:42
  I
• 12:42
  mean,
• 12:43
  there
• 12:43
  are
• 12:43
  summer
• 12:43
  schools
• 12:44
  where
• 12:44
  I
• 12:44
  guess
• 12:44
  they
• 12:44
  can
• 12:45
  go
• 12:45
  and
• 12:45
  actually
• 12:45
  play
• 12:46
  around
• 12:46
  with
• 12:46
  it.
• 12:46
  But
• 12:46
  he,
• 12:47
  he
• 12:47
  personally
• 12:48
  has
• 12:48
  not
• 12:49
  had
• 12:49
  the
• 12:50
  same
• 12:50
  motivation
• 12:51
  to
• 12:52
  actually,
• 12:52
  you
• 12:52
  know,
• 12:53
  go
• 12:53
  and
• 12:53
  blow
• 12:54
  things
• 12:54
  up
• 12:54
  and
• 12:55
  make
• 12:55
  flames,
• 12:56
  etc.
• 12:57
  So.
• 12:58
  And
• 12:58
  he
• 12:58
  actually,
• 12:59
  he's
• 12:59
  not
• 12:59
  interested
• 13:00
  in
• 13:00
  doing
• 13:01
  a
• 13:01
  pure
• 13:01
  STEM
• 13:02
  course
• 13:02
  for
• 13:03
  a
• 13:03
  degree
• 13:04
  level.
• 13:04
  He's
• 13:04
  actually
• 13:04
  interested
• 13:05
  in
• 13:05
  linguistics,
• 13:06
  which
• 13:07
  I
• 13:07
  feel
• 13:08
  is
• 13:08
  actually
• 13:08
  quite
• 13:09
  scientific
• 13:09
  because
• 13:09
  it's
• 13:10
  the
• 13:10
  science
• 13:10
  of
• 13:10
  languages.
• 13:12
  So
• 13:12
  again,
• 13:13
  stem
• 13:13
  doesn't
• 13:14
  necessarily
• 13:14
  have
• 13:14
  to
• 13:14
  be
• 13:15
  like
• 13:15
  the
• 13:15
  stamen
• 13:16
  or
• 13:16
  the
• 13:16
  flame
• 13:17
  or
• 13:17
  the
• 13:18
  equations.
• 13:19
  The
• 13:19
  stamen,
• 13:20
  that
• 13:20
  was
• 13:21
  the
• 13:21
  word
• 13:21
  I
• 13:21
  was
• 13:21
  looking
• 13:22
  for.
• 13:23
  I
• 13:23
  might
• 13:23
  be
• 13:23
  wrong.
• 13:24
  So
• 13:25
  when
• 13:25
  it
• 13:25
  comes
• 13:25
  to
• 13:26
  doing
• 13:26
  the
• 13:26
  practicals
• 13:27
  at
• 13:27
  A
• 13:27
  level,
• 13:28
  you're
• 13:28
  saying
• 13:28
  that
• 13:28
  there's
• 13:28
  two
• 13:29
  options
• 13:29
  really.
• 13:30
  You
• 13:30
  can
• 13:30
  either
• 13:32
  embrace
• 13:33
  the
• 13:33
  fact
• 13:33
  that
• 13:34
  you're
• 13:34
  home
• 13:34
  educating
• 13:34
  and
• 13:35
  you
• 13:35
  don't
• 13:35
  need
• 13:35
  to
• 13:35
  do
• 13:36
  the
• 13:36
  practicals
• 13:36
  and
• 13:36
  just
• 13:37
  do
• 13:37
  the
• 13:37
  international
• 13:38
  A
• 13:38
  level,
• 13:38
  do
• 13:38
  the
• 13:39
  written
• 13:39
  bit
• 13:39
  and
• 13:40
  just
• 13:40
  understand,
• 13:40
  watch
• 13:40
  the
• 13:41
  YouTube
• 13:41
  videos,
• 13:41
  kind
• 13:42
  of
• 13:42
  understand
• 13:42
  exactly
• 13:43
  how
• 13:43
  it
• 13:43
  works.
• 13:44
  And
• 13:44
  any
• 13:44
  that
• 13:44
  you
• 13:44
  can
• 13:45
  do
• 13:45
  at
• 13:45
  home,
• 13:45
  I'm
• 13:45
  guessing
• 13:46
  you
• 13:46
  could
• 13:46
  do
• 13:46
  at
• 13:46
  home,
• 13:47
  because
• 13:47
  I
• 13:47
  know
• 13:47
  that
• 13:47
  when
• 13:48
  my
• 13:48
  daughter
• 13:48
  was
• 13:48
  doing
• 13:49
  biology,
• 13:50
  gcse.
• 13:50
  I'm
• 13:50
  going
• 13:50
  to
• 13:51
  slam
• 13:51
  biology
• 13:51
  again
• 13:51
  here.
• 13:52
  The
• 13:53
  experiments
• 13:53
  were
• 13:53
  like
• 13:53
  super
• 13:54
  basic.
• 13:54
  They
• 13:55
  were
• 13:55
  like
• 13:55
  so
• 13:55
  easy
• 13:55
  to
• 13:56
  do.
• 13:56
  It's
• 13:56
  like
• 13:56
  put
• 13:56
  a
• 13:56
  potato
• 13:57
  in
• 13:57
  some
• 13:57
  water
• 13:57
  or
• 13:57
  something.
• 13:58
  I
• 13:58
  mean,
• 13:58
  it
• 13:58
  was
• 13:58
  like
• 13:58
  crazy.
• 13:59
  So
• 13:59
  we
• 13:59
  could
• 13:59
  do
• 14:00
  all
• 14:00
  of.
• 14:01
  Pretty
• 14:01
  much
• 14:01
  all
• 14:01
  of
• 14:01
  the
• 14:02
  GCSE
• 14:03
  experiments,
• 14:03
  I
• 14:04
  seem
• 14:04
  to
• 14:04
  recall,
• 14:04
  at
• 14:04
  home
• 14:05
  pretty
• 14:05
  easily.
• 14:05
  But
• 14:06
  for
• 14:06
  A
• 14:06
  level,
• 14:07
  there
• 14:07
  are
• 14:07
  two
• 14:08
  routes,
• 14:08
  aren't
• 14:08
  there?
• 14:08
  You
• 14:08
  could
• 14:08
  either,
• 14:08
  as
• 14:09
  I
• 14:09
  say,
• 14:09
  embrace
• 14:10
  just
• 14:10
  not
• 14:10
  doing
• 14:10
  it
• 14:10
  and
• 14:11
  that's
• 14:11
  okay,
• 14:12
  or
• 14:12
  you
• 14:12
  can
• 14:12
  use
• 14:13
  one
• 14:13
  of
• 14:13
  the
• 14:13
  centers
• 14:14
  where
• 14:14
  you
• 14:14
  go
• 14:14
  and
• 14:15
  you
• 14:15
  spend,
• 14:16
  I
• 14:16
  think,
• 14:17
  a
• 14:17
  week
• 14:17
  there
• 14:17
  and
• 14:18
  you
• 14:18
  do
• 14:18
  all
• 14:19
  the
• 14:19
  practicals.
• 14:20
  And
• 14:20
  I
• 14:20
  think
• 14:20
  there's
• 14:20
  pluses
• 14:21
  and
• 14:21
  minuses
• 14:21
  for
• 14:22
  both,
• 14:22
  aren't
• 14:22
  there?
• 14:22
  Because
• 14:22
  I
• 14:23
  know
• 14:23
  that
• 14:23
  when
• 14:24
  my
• 14:24
  son
• 14:24
  went
• 14:24
  to
• 14:25
  do
• 14:25
  his
• 14:25
  physics
• 14:26
  practicals,
• 14:27
  it
• 14:27
  was
• 14:27
  really
• 14:27
  expensive,
• 14:28
  you
• 14:28
  know,
• 14:28
  because
• 14:29
  we
• 14:29
  had
• 14:29
  to
• 14:29
  stay
• 14:29
  in
• 14:29
  a
• 14:30
  hotel.
• 14:30
  It
• 14:30
  was
• 14:30
  up
• 14:30
  in
• 14:30
  Liverpool.
• 14:31
  It
• 14:31
  was
• 14:31
  biograd
• 14:32
  in
• 14:32
  Liverpool.
• 14:33
  They
• 14:33
  were
• 14:33
  very,
• 14:33
  very
• 14:33
  good.
• 14:34
  And
• 14:34
  he
• 14:35
  really
• 14:35
  loved
• 14:35
  his
• 14:35
  week.
• 14:36
  It
• 14:36
  was
• 14:36
  the
• 14:36
  first
• 14:36
  time
• 14:36
  he'd
• 14:37
  done
• 14:37
  Any
• 14:37
  practical
• 14:38
  science
• 14:38
  really,
• 14:38
  because
• 14:39
  obviously
• 14:39
  he'd
• 14:39
  home
• 14:39
  educated
• 14:40
  all
• 14:40
  the
• 14:40
  way
• 14:40
  through.
• 14:41
  And
• 14:41
  it
• 14:41
  was
• 14:41
  that
• 14:42
  week
• 14:42
  when
• 14:43
  he
• 14:43
  did
• 14:43
  his
• 14:43
  practicals
• 14:44
  that
• 14:44
  made
• 14:44
  him
• 14:44
  think,
• 14:44
  okay,
• 14:45
  instead
• 14:45
  of
• 14:45
  doing
• 14:45
  a
• 14:46
  physics
• 14:46
  degree,
• 14:46
  I'm
• 14:47
  going
• 14:47
  to
• 14:47
  do
• 14:47
  an
• 14:47
  engineering
• 14:48
  degree.
• 14:48
  Because
• 14:48
  he
• 14:48
  just
• 14:48
  really
• 14:49
  loved
• 14:49
  the
• 14:49
  actual
• 14:49
  practicalities
• 14:50
  of
• 14:50
  what
• 14:50
  he
• 14:51
  was
• 14:51
  doing.
• 14:51
  And
• 14:51
  that
• 14:52
  week
• 14:52
  was
• 14:52
  seminal
• 14:53
  for
• 14:53
  him
• 14:53
  because
• 14:53
  he
• 14:53
  changed
• 14:54
  his
• 14:54
  entire.
• 14:54
  He
• 14:54
  segued
• 14:55
  completely
• 14:56
  off
• 14:56
  from
• 14:56
  doing
• 14:56
  physics
• 14:57
  or
• 14:57
  maths
• 14:57
  degree
• 14:58
  to
• 14:58
  doing
• 14:59
  an
• 14:59
  engineering
• 14:59
  degree.
• 15:00
  So
• 15:00
  it
• 15:00
  was
• 15:00
  really
• 15:01
  good
• 15:01
  for
• 15:01
  him,
• 15:01
  but
• 15:02
  it
• 15:02
  was
• 15:02
  really
• 15:02
  expensive
• 15:03
  for
• 15:03
  me.
• 15:03
  You
• 15:04
  know,
• 15:04
  the
• 15:05
  actual
• 15:05
  week
• 15:06
  and
• 15:06
  the
• 15:06
  hotel
• 15:07
  travel
• 15:07
  there
• 15:07
  and
• 15:07
  back.
• 15:08
  And
• 15:09
  then
• 15:09
  on
• 15:09
  top
• 15:09
  of
• 15:09
  that
• 15:09
  you
• 15:10
  have
• 15:10
  the
• 15:10
  A
• 15:10
  level.
• 15:10
  So
• 15:11
  it's
• 15:12
  one
• 15:12
  of
• 15:12
  those,
• 15:12
  isn't
• 15:12
  it?
• 15:13
  When
• 15:14
  I
• 15:14
  feel
• 15:14
  a
• 15:14
  little
• 15:14
  bit
• 15:15
  like
• 15:15
  STEM
• 15:15
  subjects,
• 15:16
  particularly
• 15:16
  at
• 15:16
  A
• 15:16
  level,
• 15:17
  but
• 15:17
  also
• 15:17
  A
• 15:17
  level
• 15:18
  generally
• 15:18
  is
• 15:19
  one
• 15:19
  of
• 15:19
  those
• 15:19
  times
• 15:19
  when
• 15:20
  as
• 15:20
  home
• 15:20
  educators,
• 15:21
  money
• 15:22
  really
• 15:23
  matters,
• 15:24
  doesn't
• 15:24
  it?
• 15:25
  Yeah,
• 15:25
  I
• 15:26
  would
• 15:26
  say.
• 15:26
  But
• 15:26
  maybe
• 15:27
  Farah
• 15:27
  wants
• 15:27
  to
• 15:27
  talk
• 15:28
  a
• 15:28
  bit
• 15:28
  more
• 15:28
  about
• 15:28
  this.
• 15:28
  On
• 15:29
  the
• 15:29
  other
• 15:29
  hand,
• 15:30
  maths
• 15:30
  A
• 15:30
  level
• 15:31
  is
• 15:31
  a
• 15:31
  super
• 15:32
  easy
• 15:33
  one
• 15:33
  to
• 15:33
  self
• 15:33
  study
• 15:33
  at
• 15:34
  A
• 15:34
  level.
• 15:35
  As
• 15:35
  a
• 15:35
  home
• 15:35
  educator,
• 15:36
  Farrah,
• 15:36
  do
• 15:36
  you
• 15:36
  want
• 15:36
  to
• 15:36
  talk
• 15:37
  about
• 15:37
  because
• 15:38
  you
• 15:38
  home
• 15:38
  educated
• 15:39
  yourself
• 15:39
  in
• 15:39
  GCSE
• 15:40
  maths?
• 15:41
  Yeah,
• 15:41
  so,
• 15:41
  so
• 15:42
  exactly.
• 15:42
  Both
• 15:43
  your
• 15:43
  stories
• 15:43
  took
• 15:43
  me
• 15:44
  back
• 15:44
  to
• 15:44
  my
• 15:44
  time
• 15:44
  when
• 15:45
  I
• 15:45
  sort
• 15:45
  of
• 15:45
  left
• 15:45
  year
• 15:46
  nine
• 15:46
  and
• 15:46
  decided,
• 15:47
  you
• 15:47
  know,
• 15:47
  my
• 15:47
  parents
• 15:47
  and
• 15:48
  I
• 15:48
  decided
• 15:48
  it
• 15:48
  was
• 15:48
  better
• 15:48
  for
• 15:49
  me
• 15:49
  to
• 15:49
  home
• 15:49
  educate
• 15:49
  myself.
• 15:50
  And
• 15:51
  with
• 15:51
  science
• 15:52
  I
• 15:52
  have
• 15:52
  these
• 15:52
  funny
• 15:52
  memories
• 15:53
  of
• 15:54
  GCSE
• 15:54
  chemistry,
• 15:55
  going
• 15:55
  to
• 15:55
  a
• 15:55
  tutor's
• 15:56
  house
• 15:56
  and
• 15:56
  doing
• 15:57
  experiments
• 15:57
  with
• 15:58
  Bunsen
• 15:58
  burners
• 15:59
  in
• 15:59
  his
• 15:59
  kitchen.
• 16:00
  I
• 16:00
  can't
• 16:00
  speak
• 16:01
  to
• 16:01
  the
• 16:01
  health
• 16:01
  and
• 16:01
  safety
• 16:01
  with
• 16:02
  Saudi
• 16:02
  Arabia
• 16:02
  at
• 16:02
  the
• 16:02
  time,
• 16:03
  but
• 16:04
  it
• 16:04
  was
• 16:04
  a
• 16:04
  lot
• 16:04
  of
• 16:04
  fun
• 16:05
  and
• 16:05
  I
• 16:05
  remember
• 16:05
  that
• 16:06
  being
• 16:06
  something
• 16:06
  that's
• 16:07
  stuck
• 16:07
  in
• 16:07
  my
• 16:07
  mind.
• 16:08
  So
• 16:08
  perhaps
• 16:08
  there
• 16:08
  are
• 16:09
  some
• 16:09
  A
• 16:09
  level
• 16:10
  tutors.
• 16:10
  I
• 16:10
  don't
• 16:10
  know
• 16:10
  if
• 16:11
  there
• 16:11
  are
• 16:11
  today
• 16:11
  who
• 16:11
  still
• 16:12
  do
• 16:12
  things
• 16:12
  like
• 16:12
  that.
• 16:13
  But
• 16:13
  when
• 16:13
  it
• 16:13
  comes
• 16:14
  to
• 16:14
  the
• 16:14
  other
• 16:14
  side,
• 16:15
  you
• 16:15
  know,
• 16:15
  maths
• 16:16
  on
• 16:16
  the
• 16:16
  other
• 16:17
  hand,
• 16:17
  is
• 16:17
  a
• 16:17
  subject
• 16:17
  which
• 16:18
  is
• 16:18
  really
• 16:19
  a
• 16:19
  lot
• 16:19
  easier
• 16:19
  to
• 16:20
  self
• 16:20
  educate
• 16:21
  in.
• 16:21
  Even
• 16:21
  when
• 16:22
  it
• 16:22
  comes
• 16:22
  to
• 16:22
  A
• 16:22
  levels
• 16:23
  you
• 16:23
  don't
• 16:23
  have
• 16:23
  that
• 16:23
  practical
• 16:24
  challenge.
• 16:24
  But
• 16:24
  also
• 16:25
  the
• 16:25
  resources
• 16:25
  out
• 16:26
  there
• 16:27
  are
• 16:27
  phenomenal.
• 16:28
  Like
• 16:28
  in
• 16:29
  terms
• 16:29
  of,
• 16:29
  you
• 16:29
  know,
• 16:30
  every
• 16:30
  exercise
• 16:30
  is
• 16:31
  there
• 16:31
  in
• 16:31
  video
• 16:31
  format,
• 16:32
  explained
• 16:32
  on
• 16:33
  websites
• 16:33
  that
• 16:33
  are
• 16:34
  free.
• 16:34
  There's
• 16:35
  YouTubers
• 16:35
  galore.
• 16:36
  If
• 16:37
  you
• 16:37
  do
• 16:37
  A
• 16:37
  level
• 16:37
  maths.
• 16:38
  I
• 16:38
  recommend
• 16:38
  Bison
• 16:38
  Maths
• 16:39
  highly
• 16:39
  for
• 16:39
  A
• 16:40
  level
• 16:40
  maths
• 16:40
  and
• 16:40
  for
• 16:40
  the
• 16:40
  maths
• 16:41
  I
• 16:41
  know,
• 16:41
  for
• 16:41
  me
• 16:41
  I'd
• 16:42
  recommend
• 16:42
  them
• 16:42
  to
• 16:42
  my
• 16:42
  students.
• 16:43
  Even
• 16:43
  as
• 16:43
  a
• 16:43
  maths
• 16:43
  teacher,
• 16:45
  there's
• 16:45
  so
• 16:46
  many
• 16:46
  online
• 16:47
  resources
• 16:47
  and
• 16:48
  free
• 16:48
  and
• 16:48
  paid
• 16:49
  out
• 16:49
  there
• 16:49
  to
• 16:50
  practice
• 16:50
  as
• 16:51
  well
• 16:51
  as
• 16:51
  just,
• 16:51
  you
• 16:52
  know,
• 16:52
  increase
• 16:52
  your
• 16:52
  maths
• 16:53
  knowledge
• 16:54
  that,
• 16:54
  you
• 16:54
  know,
• 16:55
  I
• 16:55
  think
• 16:55
  it
• 16:55
  might
• 16:55
  balance
• 16:56
  out
• 16:56
  some
• 16:56
  of
• 16:56
  the
• 16:56
  challenges
• 16:57
  with
• 16:57
  the
• 16:57
  sciences
• 16:58
  perhaps.
• 16:59
  Yeah,
• 16:59
  that's
• 16:59
  really
• 17:00
  valid
• 17:00
  and
• 17:00
  I'm
• 17:00
  glad
• 17:01
  you've
• 17:01
  segued
• 17:01
  to
• 17:02
  kind
• 17:02
  of
• 17:02
  maths
• 17:03
  because
• 17:03
  I'd
• 17:04
  like
• 17:04
  to
• 17:04
  work
• 17:04
  our
• 17:04
  way
• 17:05
  through
• 17:05
  the
• 17:05
  acronym,
• 17:06
  I
• 17:06
  think.
• 17:06
  So
• 17:06
  we've
• 17:07
  done
• 17:07
  science.
• 17:08
  You
• 17:08
  can
• 17:08
  do
• 17:08
  it
• 17:08
  practical,
• 17:09
  you
• 17:09
  cannot
• 17:09
  do
• 17:09
  it
• 17:10
  practical.
• 17:10
  Practical.
• 17:11
  It
• 17:11
  is
• 17:11
  expensive
• 17:12
  if
• 17:12
  you
• 17:12
  do
• 17:12
  it
• 17:12
  at
• 17:12
  A
• 17:12
  level,
• 17:13
  but
• 17:13
  it
• 17:13
  can
• 17:13
  be
• 17:13
  really
• 17:13
  rewarding.
• 17:14
  But
• 17:14
  you
• 17:14
  don't
• 17:15
  necessarily
• 17:15
  need
• 17:15
  to,
• 17:15
  there's
• 17:15
  other
• 17:16
  options.
• 17:16
  Maths,
• 17:17
  you're
• 17:17
  right.
• 17:17
  I
• 17:17
  think
• 17:17
  maths
• 17:18
  is
• 17:18
  one
• 17:18
  of
• 17:18
  those
• 17:18
  that
• 17:18
  you
• 17:19
  really.
• 17:19
  It's
• 17:21
  a
• 17:21
  classic
• 17:21
  home
• 17:22
  educating
• 17:22
  subject
• 17:23
  in
• 17:23
  as
• 17:23
  much
• 17:23
  as
• 17:23
  you
• 17:23
  don't
• 17:24
  even
• 17:24
  need
• 17:24
  to
• 17:24
  buy
• 17:24
  the
• 17:24
  textbook,
• 17:25
  you
• 17:25
  can
• 17:25
  literally
• 17:26
  just
• 17:26
  watch
• 17:26
  YouTube
• 17:27
  videos
• 17:27
  and
• 17:27
  do
• 17:27
  it
• 17:27
  for
• 17:28
  free.
• 17:28
  Right.
• 17:28
  So
• 17:29
  especially
• 17:29
  if
• 17:29
  your
• 17:30
  child
• 17:30
  is
• 17:30
  mathsy.
• 17:30
  And
• 17:31
  realistically,
• 17:32
  I
• 17:32
  know
• 17:32
  this
• 17:32
  isn't
• 17:32
  the
• 17:33
  case
• 17:33
  in
• 17:33
  school,
• 17:34
  I
• 17:34
  know
• 17:34
  that
• 17:34
  a
• 17:34
  lot
• 17:34
  of
• 17:34
  children
• 17:35
  in
• 17:35
  school
• 17:35
  now
• 17:35
  do
• 17:36
  maths
• 17:36
  A
• 17:36
  level
• 17:36
  as
• 17:36
  pretty
• 17:37
  much
• 17:37
  a
• 17:37
  standard
• 17:37
  thing,
• 17:38
  but
• 17:38
  in
• 17:38
  home
• 17:39
  educating
• 17:39
  world,
• 17:40
  I
• 17:40
  feel
• 17:41
  that
• 17:41
  children
• 17:42
  who
• 17:42
  are
• 17:42
  opting
• 17:42
  to
• 17:43
  do
• 17:43
  maths
• 17:43
  A
• 17:43
  level
• 17:44
  as
• 17:44
  a
• 17:44
  home
• 17:44
  educated
• 17:45
  child
• 17:45
  are
• 17:45
  pretty
• 17:45
  good
• 17:45
  at
• 17:46
  maths.
• 17:46
  You
• 17:46
  know,
• 17:47
  they're
• 17:47
  not
• 17:47
  just
• 17:47
  like,
• 17:47
  you
• 17:48
  know,
• 17:48
  okay,
• 17:48
  I
• 17:48
  got
• 17:48
  a
• 17:48
  C
• 17:49
  at
• 17:49
  gcse,
• 17:50
  I'll
• 17:50
  probably
• 17:50
  do
• 17:51
  this.
• 17:51
  They
• 17:51
  tend
• 17:51
  to
• 17:52
  be,
• 17:52
  I
• 17:52
  sat
• 17:52
  the
• 17:52
  GCSE
• 17:53
  at
• 17:53
  14,
• 17:53
  I'm
• 17:53
  bloody
• 17:54
  brilliant
• 17:54
  at
• 17:54
  maths.
• 17:54
  And
• 17:55
  that's
• 17:55
  great.
• 17:55
  Right,
• 17:55
  so
• 17:56
  maths
• 17:57
  is
• 17:57
  self
• 17:57
  studyable,
• 17:58
  but
• 17:58
  obviously
• 17:59
  there's
• 17:59
  other
• 17:59
  routes,
• 18:00
  tutors
• 18:00
  and
• 18:00
  online
• 18:01
  schools
• 18:02
  and
• 18:02
  all
• 18:02
  of
• 18:02
  that
• 18:02
  stuff.
• 18:03
  So
• 18:03
  what
• 18:03
  about
• 18:04
  then
• 18:04
  the.
• 18:05
  Oh,
• 18:06
  before
• 18:06
  we
• 18:06
  move
• 18:07
  off
• 18:07
  sciences,
• 18:08
  Is
• 18:08
  there
• 18:09
  a
• 18:09
  science
• 18:09
  that
• 18:10
  you
• 18:10
  think
• 18:10
  is
• 18:10
  particularly
• 18:11
  good
• 18:11
  to
• 18:12
  study
• 18:12
  as
• 18:12
  a
• 18:12
  home
• 18:12
  educator
• 18:13
  or
• 18:13
  if
• 18:14
  you
• 18:14
  want
• 18:14
  to
• 18:14
  go
• 18:14
  into
• 18:14
  a
• 18:15
  STEM
• 18:15
  subject
• 18:15
  to
• 18:15
  university?
• 18:16
  Is
• 18:16
  there
• 18:17
  a
• 18:17
  science
• 18:17
  that
• 18:17
  you
• 18:17
  think
• 18:17
  is
• 18:17
  really
• 18:18
  great
• 18:18
  to
• 18:18
  study
• 18:18
  at
• 18:19
  university?
• 18:19
  Is
• 18:19
  there
• 18:19
  like,
• 18:20
  do
• 18:20
  you
• 18:20
  have
• 18:20
  like
• 18:20
  a
• 18:21
  favorite
• 18:21
  child
• 18:22
  when
• 18:22
  it
• 18:22
  comes
• 18:22
  to
• 18:22
  the
• 18:22
  sciences?
• 18:23
  We
• 18:24
  won't
• 18:24
  tell
• 18:24
  the
• 18:24
  other
• 18:24
  children,
• 18:24
  don't
• 18:25
  worry.
• 18:25
  It's
• 18:25
  just
• 18:25
  between
• 18:25
  us.
• 18:26
  Oh
• 18:27
  well,
• 18:28
  I
• 18:29
  myself
• 18:29
  personally
• 18:30
  took
• 18:30
  physics,
• 18:31
  maths,
• 18:31
  economics
• 18:31
  at
• 18:32
  A
• 18:32
  level,
• 18:32
  so
• 18:33
  chemistry
• 18:34
  scares
• 18:35
  me
• 18:35
  and
• 18:36
  biology
• 18:36
  just
• 18:36
  seems
• 18:37
  to
• 18:37
  be
• 18:37
  lots
• 18:37
  and
• 18:37
  lots
• 18:38
  of
• 18:38
  facts.
• 18:39
  But
• 18:39
  physics,
• 18:40
  so
• 18:40
  I'm
• 18:40
  a
• 18:40
  physics
• 18:41
  person,
• 18:41
  obviously
• 18:42
  I
• 18:42
  did
• 18:42
  engineering,
• 18:43
  so
• 18:43
  I
• 18:43
  guess
• 18:43
  I'm
• 18:43
  team
• 18:44
  physics.
• 18:45
  Team
• 18:45
  physics.
• 18:46
  What
• 18:46
  about
• 18:46
  you?
• 18:47
  I
• 18:47
  want
• 18:47
  team
• 18:47
  chemistry.
• 18:48
  So
• 18:48
  my
• 18:48
  daughter
• 18:48
  did
• 18:49
  chemistry
• 18:49
  and
• 18:49
  it
• 18:49
  was
• 18:49
  a
• 18:50
  funny
• 18:50
  subject
• 18:50
  where
• 18:51
  she
• 18:52
  started
• 18:52
  off
• 18:52
  not
• 18:53
  liking
• 18:53
  it,
• 18:53
  realizing
• 18:54
  it's
• 18:54
  quite
• 18:54
  difficult.
• 18:55
  But
• 18:55
  then
• 18:55
  as
• 18:55
  she
• 18:55
  did
• 18:56
  it
• 18:56
  and
• 18:56
  as
• 18:56
  her
• 18:56
  conceptual
• 18:57
  knowledge
• 18:57
  got
• 18:57
  deeper,
• 18:58
  she
• 18:58
  started
• 18:58
  to
• 18:58
  love
• 18:58
  it.
• 18:59
  And
• 18:59
  I
• 18:59
  often
• 19:00
  say
• 19:00
  maths
• 19:01
  and
• 19:01
  chemistry
• 19:01
  or
• 19:01
  maths
• 19:02
  and
• 19:02
  physics.
• 19:02
  I
• 19:02
  think
• 19:02
  those
• 19:03
  two
• 19:03
  combinations
• 19:04
  open
• 19:05
  up
• 19:05
  the
• 19:05
  most
• 19:06
  doors
• 19:06
  at
• 19:06
  uni.
• 19:07
  I
• 19:07
  mean
• 19:07
  if
• 19:07
  you
• 19:08
  know,
• 19:08
  you're
• 19:08
  going
• 19:08
  to
• 19:08
  be
• 19:08
  an
• 19:08
  engineer,
• 19:09
  then
• 19:09
  do
• 19:09
  maths
• 19:10
  and
• 19:10
  physics,
• 19:10
  but
• 19:10
  if
• 19:11
  you're
• 19:11
  not
• 19:11
  quite
• 19:11
  sure,
• 19:12
  then
• 19:12
  maths
• 19:13
  and
• 19:13
  chemistry
• 19:14
  kind
• 19:14
  of
• 19:14
  opens
• 19:14
  up
• 19:15
  a
• 19:15
  lot
• 19:15
  of
• 19:16
  degree
• 19:16
  options.
• 19:17
  And
• 19:17
  then
• 19:17
  you
• 19:17
  have,
• 19:18
  you
• 19:18
  know,
• 19:18
  so
• 19:18
  much
• 19:18
  choice.
• 19:19
  But
• 19:19
  either
• 19:19
  way,
• 19:20
  I
• 19:20
  think
• 19:20
  the
• 19:20
  key
• 19:21
  thing
• 19:21
  here
• 19:21
  is
• 19:21
  maths
• 19:22
  in
• 19:22
  itself
• 19:22
  is.
• 19:23
  Is
• 19:23
  a
• 19:24
  real
• 19:24
  door
• 19:24
  opener
• 19:25
  when
• 19:25
  it
• 19:25
  comes
• 19:25
  to
• 19:25
  uni.
• 19:26
  So,
• 19:27
  yeah,
• 19:27
  between
• 19:27
  the
• 19:27
  sciences,
• 19:28
  though,
• 19:28
  I'd
• 19:28
  probably
• 19:28
  pick
• 19:29
  chemistry
• 19:29
  as
• 19:30
  my
• 19:30
  favorite.
• 19:31
  After,
• 19:31
  after
• 19:32
  dissing
• 19:33
  biology,
• 19:33
  I
• 19:34
  will
• 19:34
  say
• 19:34
  that
• 19:34
  I'm.
• 19:35
  I'm
• 19:35
  going
• 19:35
  to
• 19:35
  do
• 19:35
  a
• 19:36
  post
• 19:36
  in
• 19:36
  the
• 19:36
  Ruk
• 19:38
  stem
• 19:38
  uni
• 19:38
  WhatsApp
• 19:39
  group
• 19:39
  because
• 19:40
  I
• 19:40
  discovered
• 19:40
  the
• 19:41
  dermatology
• 19:41
  side
• 19:41
  of
• 19:42
  Instagram
• 19:43
  about
• 19:44
  six
• 19:44
  months
• 19:44
  ago.
• 19:44
  My
• 19:45
  duck
• 19:46
  spots
• 19:46
  underneath
• 19:46
  my
• 19:47
  eyes
• 19:47
  have
• 19:47
  gone,
• 19:47
  as
• 19:47
  you
• 19:47
  can
• 19:47
  see.
• 19:48
  And.
• 19:49
  And
• 19:50
  I
• 19:50
  follow.
• 19:50
  One
• 19:50
  of
• 19:50
  the
• 19:51
  influences
• 19:51
  I
• 19:51
  follow
• 19:51
  is
• 19:52
  this
• 19:52
  a
• 19:52
  guy
• 19:52
  called
• 19:53
  Dr.
• 19:53
  Julian
• 19:53
  Nass.
• 19:54
  And
• 19:54
  he
• 19:55
  did.
• 19:55
  He's
• 19:55
  American
• 19:56
  and
• 19:57
  he
• 19:57
  did
• 19:57
  a
• 19:57
  maths
• 19:57
  degree
• 19:58
  as
• 19:58
  his
• 19:58
  undergraduate,
• 19:59
  and
• 20:00
  then
• 20:00
  as
• 20:01
  his
• 20:01
  master's
• 20:01
  degree,
• 20:01
  he
• 20:02
  did
• 20:02
  biostatists.
• 20:03
  He's
• 20:03
  a
• 20:03
  biostatistician,
• 20:04
  basically.
• 20:05
  But
• 20:05
  he
• 20:05
  always
• 20:06
  was
• 20:06
  interested
• 20:07
  in
• 20:07
  cosmetics
• 20:08
  and
• 20:08
  dermatology.
• 20:09
  So
• 20:10
  he
• 20:10
  was
• 20:10
  actually
• 20:10
  had
• 20:11
  a
• 20:11
  little
• 20:11
  YouTube
• 20:11
  channel
• 20:12
  on
• 20:12
  the
• 20:12
  side
• 20:12
  and
• 20:13
  then
• 20:13
  an
• 20:13
  Instagram
• 20:13
  thing
• 20:14
  on
• 20:14
  the
• 20:14
  side
• 20:14
  where
• 20:14
  he
• 20:15
  was
• 20:15
  reviewing
• 20:16
  different
• 20:16
  products.
• 20:17
  But
• 20:17
  now
• 20:17
  his
• 20:18
  job
• 20:18
  is
• 20:18
  basically.
• 20:19
  He's
• 20:19
  merged
• 20:19
  his
• 20:20
  maths
• 20:20
  and
• 20:20
  a
• 20:20
  bit
• 20:21
  of
• 20:21
  biology.
• 20:21
  His
• 20:22
  job
• 20:22
  is
• 20:22
  to
• 20:23
  basically
• 20:24
  help
• 20:24
  companies
• 20:25
  make
• 20:25
  new
• 20:26
  formulations
• 20:27
  for
• 20:27
  products
• 20:28
  like
• 20:28
  sunscreens
• 20:30
  and
• 20:30
  for,
• 20:30
  you
• 20:30
  know,
• 20:31
  our
• 20:31
  different
• 20:31
  serums.
• 20:32
  And
• 20:33
  it's
• 20:33
  just
• 20:33
  like,
• 20:33
  look
• 20:34
  where
• 20:34
  math
• 20:35
  can
• 20:35
  take
• 20:35
  you.
• 20:36
  Because
• 20:36
  you
• 20:37
  need
• 20:37
  the
• 20:37
  math
• 20:37
  to
• 20:38
  figure
• 20:38
  out,
• 20:38
  you
• 20:38
  know,
• 20:38
  the
• 20:38
  different
• 20:39
  quantities.
• 20:40
  And
• 20:40
  of
• 20:41
  course,
• 20:41
  you
• 20:41
  need
• 20:41
  the
• 20:41
  biology
• 20:42
  to
• 20:42
  figure
• 20:42
  out
• 20:42
  the
• 20:42
  different
• 20:42
  reactions.
• 20:43
  But
• 20:43
  there's
• 20:44
  so
• 20:44
  many
• 20:44
  cool
• 20:45
  jobs
• 20:46
  that,
• 20:47
  that
• 20:47
  can,
• 20:47
  you
• 20:47
  can
• 20:48
  go
• 20:48
  on
• 20:48
  to.
• 20:49
  I'm
• 20:49
  going
• 20:49
  to
• 20:49
  say
• 20:49
  something
• 20:50
  super
• 20:50
  controversial
• 20:51
  now
• 20:51
  and
• 20:51
  say
• 20:52
  that
• 20:52
  if
• 20:52
  my
• 20:52
  son
• 20:53
  did
• 20:53
  a
• 20:53
  math
• 20:53
  degree
• 20:54
  and
• 20:54
  then,
• 20:55
  like,
• 20:55
  was
• 20:55
  a
• 20:56
  biostatistician
• 20:57
  and
• 20:57
  then
• 20:57
  just
• 20:57
  made
• 20:57
  makeup,
• 20:58
  I
• 20:58
  was
• 20:58
  like,
• 20:59
  what
• 20:59
  the
• 20:59
  hell
• 20:59
  are
• 20:59
  you
• 20:59
  doing
• 21:00
  with
• 21:00
  your
• 21:00
  life,
• 21:00
  boy?
• 21:01
  Anyway,
• 21:01
  so
• 21:02
  that's
• 21:02
  just
• 21:02
  me
• 21:02
  being
• 21:03
  very
• 21:03
  controversial.
• 21:04
  So
• 21:05
  let's.
• 21:05
  So
• 21:05
  we've
• 21:06
  got
• 21:06
  a
• 21:06
  team
• 21:06
  physics
• 21:07
  and
• 21:07
  a
• 21:07
  team
• 21:07
  chemistry.
• 21:08
  And
• 21:08
  Caroline,
• 21:09
  of
• 21:09
  course,
• 21:09
  can't
• 21:09
  leave
• 21:10
  biology
• 21:10
  out
• 21:11
  because
• 21:11
  it
• 21:11
  would
• 21:11
  feel
• 21:12
  sad.
• 21:12
  So
• 21:12
  we
• 21:12
  were
• 21:12
  also
• 21:13
  kind
• 21:13
  of
• 21:13
  team
• 21:13
  biology.
• 21:14
  What
• 21:14
  about
• 21:15
  astronomy
• 21:16
  or
• 21:16
  human
• 21:16
  biology
• 21:17
  or
• 21:17
  any
• 21:18
  of
• 21:18
  these
• 21:18
  kind
• 21:18
  of
• 21:18
  things?
• 21:20
  Oh,
• 21:20
  silence.
• 21:23
  I
• 21:23
  mean,
• 21:23
  all
• 21:23
  of
• 21:24
  these
• 21:24
  areas
• 21:25
  can
• 21:25
  be
• 21:25
  combined
• 21:26
  with
• 21:26
  things
• 21:26
  to
• 21:26
  create
• 21:27
  really
• 21:27
  lucrative
• 21:28
  careers.
• 21:28
  I
• 21:28
  mean,
• 21:28
  I
• 21:29
  know
• 21:29
  astro
• 21:30
  astrophysics
• 21:31
  and
• 21:32
  aerospace
• 21:33
  engineering
• 21:33
  and
• 21:34
  things
• 21:34
  like.
• 21:34
  This
• 21:34
  is
• 21:34
  definitely.
• 21:35
  If
• 21:36
  you
• 21:36
  take,
• 21:36
  say,
• 21:36
  maths
• 21:37
  and
• 21:37
  astronomy
• 21:38
  scenario,
• 21:38
  you
• 21:39
  could
• 21:39
  go
• 21:39
  into.
• 21:40
  There's.
• 21:41
  What
• 21:42
  was
• 21:42
  the
• 21:42
  other
• 21:42
  subject
• 21:42
  that
• 21:43
  you
• 21:43
  were
• 21:43
  mentioning?
• 21:43
  Aside
• 21:43
  from
• 21:44
  biology.
• 21:44
  Astronomy.
• 21:45
  Astronomy.
• 21:46
  Human
• 21:46
  biology.
• 21:47
  Human
• 21:47
  biology.
• 21:48
  Ah,
• 21:48
  interesting.
• 21:49
  So,
• 21:50
  I
• 21:50
  mean,
• 21:50
  I
• 21:50
  can't
• 21:51
  speak
• 21:51
  to
• 21:52
  medicine
• 21:52
  specifically,
• 21:53
  but
• 21:53
  I
• 21:53
  know,
• 21:54
  I
• 21:54
  mean,
• 21:54
  human
• 21:55
  biology
• 21:55
  and
• 21:55
  maths
• 21:55
  in
• 21:56
  itself
• 21:56
  is
• 21:56
  a
• 21:57
  combination
• 21:57
  that
• 21:57
  can
• 21:58
  lead
• 21:58
  you
• 21:58
  into
• 21:58
  the
• 21:59
  whole
• 21:59
  bioinformatics,
• 22:00
  computational
• 22:01
  biology,
• 22:02
  that
• 22:02
  side
• 22:03
  of
• 22:03
  things
• 22:03
  as
• 22:03
  well.
• 22:03
  So
• 22:03
  there's
• 22:04
  definitely.
• 22:05
  You
• 22:05
  can
• 22:05
  get
• 22:05
  really
• 22:05
  creative
• 22:06
  when
• 22:06
  you
• 22:06
  start
• 22:06
  to
• 22:07
  combine
• 22:07
  subjects
• 22:07
  that
• 22:07
  don't
• 22:08
  necessarily
• 22:09
  always
• 22:09
  come
• 22:09
  to
• 22:09
  mind
• 22:10
  as
• 22:10
  classic
• 22:10
  combinations.
• 22:12
  And
• 22:12
  then
• 22:12
  there's
• 22:13
  the
• 22:13
  whole
• 22:13
  world
• 22:13
  of
• 22:13
  maths
• 22:14
  and
• 22:14
  art
• 22:14
  and
• 22:14
  architectural
• 22:15
  engineering.
• 22:15
  And,
• 22:16
  you
• 22:16
  know,
• 22:16
  that's
• 22:16
  what
• 22:17
  my
• 22:17
  son
• 22:17
  was
• 22:17
  looking
• 22:17
  at,
• 22:17
  for
• 22:18
  example.
• 22:18
  I
• 22:18
  mean,
• 22:18
  there's
• 22:19
  so
• 22:19
  many
• 22:19
  interesting
• 22:20
  combinations.
• 22:20
  I
• 22:20
  think
• 22:21
  they
• 22:21
  say
• 22:21
  that
• 22:21
  these
• 22:21
  days
• 22:22
  you
• 22:22
  might
• 22:22
  end
• 22:22
  up,
• 22:23
  you
• 22:23
  know,
• 22:23
  looking
• 22:23
  at
• 22:24
  jobs
• 22:24
  that
• 22:24
  don't
• 22:24
  even
• 22:24
  exist
• 22:25
  yet.
• 22:25
  So
• 22:25
  I
• 22:25
  think
• 22:25
  you
• 22:26
  have
• 22:26
  to
• 22:26
  be
• 22:26
  really,
• 22:26
  the
• 22:27
  more
• 22:27
  interdisciplinary
• 22:28
  you
• 22:28
  can
• 22:28
  be
• 22:28
  with
• 22:29
  your
• 22:29
  studies,
• 22:29
  the
• 22:30
  more
• 22:30
  you
• 22:30
  kind
• 22:30
  of
• 22:31
  are
• 22:31
  opening
• 22:31
  up
• 22:32
  options
• 22:32
  for
• 22:32
  yourself.
• 22:33
  Yeah,
• 22:33
  I'm
• 22:34
  a
• 22:34
  big
• 22:34
  fan
• 22:34
  of
• 22:35
  interdisciplinarity.
• 22:36
  That's
• 22:36
  really
• 22:37
  interesting
• 22:37
  you
• 22:37
  say
• 22:37
  that,
• 22:38
  because
• 22:38
  I've
• 22:38
  got
• 22:39
  a
• 22:39
  question
• 22:39
  about
• 22:39
  that
• 22:40
  that
• 22:40
  I
• 22:40
  will
• 22:41
  come
• 22:41
  back
• 22:41
  to
• 22:41
  you
• 22:42
  with.
• 22:42
  But
• 22:43
  Caroline,
• 22:43
  you
• 22:43
  wanted
• 22:43
  to
• 22:44
  say
• 22:44
  something?
• 22:44
  Yeah,
• 22:45
  and
• 22:45
  remember,
• 22:45
  we've
• 22:46
  got
• 22:46
  subjects
• 22:47
  like
• 22:47
  geography
• 22:47
  and
• 22:48
  we've
• 22:48
  got
• 22:48
  environmental
• 22:49
  management,
• 22:49
  which
• 22:49
  use
• 22:49
  a
• 22:50
  whole
• 22:50
  lot
• 22:50
  of
• 22:50
  maths.
• 22:51
  So
• 22:52
  G.
• 22:52
  I
• 22:52
  don't
• 22:53
  know
• 22:53
  if
• 22:53
  you
• 22:53
  heard
• 22:53
  of
• 22:53
  G.
• 22:54
  So
• 22:54
  that's
• 22:54
  basically
• 22:55
  how
• 22:55
  they
• 22:55
  use
• 22:55
  technology
• 22:56
  and
• 22:56
  mapping
• 22:57
  and,
• 22:58
  you
• 22:58
  know,
• 22:58
  really
• 22:58
  sophisticated
• 22:59
  mathematics
• 23:00
  to.
• 23:00
  To.
• 23:01
  To
• 23:01
  enhance
• 23:02
  maps
• 23:02
  and
• 23:02
  to
• 23:03
  figure
• 23:03
  out
• 23:03
  exactly
• 23:04
  how
• 23:04
  many
• 23:05
  birch
• 23:05
  trees
• 23:05
  are
• 23:06
  there
• 23:06
  in
• 23:06
  British
• 23:06
  Columbia.
• 23:07
  Actually,
• 23:07
  that's
• 23:08
  the
• 23:08
  job
• 23:08
  my
• 23:08
  friend's
• 23:09
  son
• 23:09
  actually
• 23:09
  does.
• 23:10
  He's
• 23:10
  mapping
• 23:11
  British
• 23:11
  Columbia
• 23:12
  and
• 23:13
  environmental
• 23:14
  management.
• 23:14
  I've
• 23:15
  got
• 23:15
  another
• 23:15
  friend
• 23:15
  and
• 23:16
  he's
• 23:16
  doing
• 23:16
  a
• 23:17
  master's
• 23:17
  degree
• 23:17
  basically
• 23:18
  in
• 23:18
  environmental
• 23:19
  management
• 23:20
  and
• 23:20
  basically
• 23:20
  how
• 23:22
  the
• 23:22
  effects
• 23:23
  of
• 23:23
  us
• 23:23
  ruining
• 23:24
  the
• 23:24
  environment,
• 23:24
  how
• 23:25
  that
• 23:25
  is
• 23:25
  changing
• 23:25
  different
• 23:26
  areas
• 23:27
  of
• 23:27
  the
• 23:28
  world
• 23:28
  and
• 23:29
  learning
• 23:29
  how
• 23:29
  to
• 23:30
  map
• 23:30
  that
• 23:30
  and
• 23:30
  use
• 23:30
  technology
• 23:31
  to
• 23:31
  really
• 23:32
  find
• 23:33
  out
• 23:33
  what's
• 23:33
  happening
• 23:34
  and
• 23:34
  how
• 23:34
  can
• 23:34
  we
• 23:34
  save
• 23:35
  the
• 23:35
  planet.
• 23:36
  What
• 23:36
  I
• 23:36
  hear
• 23:36
  is
• 23:36
  that
• 23:36
  there's
• 23:37
  a
• 23:37
  lot
• 23:37
  of
• 23:37
  different
• 23:38
  kind
• 23:38
  of
• 23:38
  jobs
• 23:39
  that
• 23:39
  we
• 23:39
  maybe
• 23:39
  aren't
• 23:40
  even
• 23:40
  aware
• 23:40
  of.
• 23:41
  I
• 23:41
  think
• 23:41
  when
• 23:41
  it
• 23:42
  comes
• 23:42
  to
• 23:42
  A
• 23:43
  levels
• 23:43
  and
• 23:44
  choosing
• 23:44
  sciences,
• 23:46
  one
• 23:46
  thing
• 23:46
  I
• 23:46
  have
• 23:47
  learned
• 23:47
  the
• 23:47
  hard
• 23:48
  way
• 23:48
  is
• 23:48
  that
• 23:49
  you
• 23:49
  need
• 23:49
  to
• 23:50
  kind
• 23:50
  of
• 23:50
  know
• 23:51
  what
• 23:51
  you
• 23:51
  want
• 23:51
  to
• 23:51
  do
• 23:51
  at
• 23:52
  university
• 23:52
  when
• 23:53
  you're
• 23:53
  choosing
• 23:53
  your
• 23:54
  A
• 23:54
  levels.
• 23:55
  I
• 23:56
  have
• 23:56
  heard
• 23:56
  that
• 23:57
  when
• 23:57
  it
• 23:57
  comes
• 23:57
  to
• 23:57
  maths
• 23:58
  and
• 23:58
  science,
• 23:58
  you
• 23:58
  need
• 23:59
  your
• 23:59
  A
• 23:59
  levels,
• 24:00
  particularly
• 24:00
  in
• 24:00
  the
• 24:00
  uk,
• 24:00
  to
• 24:01
  be
• 24:01
  very
• 24:02
  maths
• 24:02
  and
• 24:03
  science.
• 24:03
  Like
• 24:03
  to
• 24:03
  sort
• 24:04
  of
• 24:04
  say,
• 24:04
  all
• 24:04
  my
• 24:04
  hobbies
• 24:05
  are
• 24:05
  around
• 24:05
  science.
• 24:06
  All
• 24:06
  my
• 24:06
  summer
• 24:06
  schools
• 24:07
  are
• 24:07
  science.
• 24:07
  All
• 24:07
  my,
• 24:08
  you
• 24:08
  know,
• 24:09
  every
• 24:09
  book
• 24:09
  I've
• 24:09
  ever
• 24:09
  read
• 24:10
  is
• 24:10
  about
• 24:10
  maths.
• 24:10
  You
• 24:11
  know,
• 24:11
  that's
• 24:11
  What
• 24:11
  I
• 24:12
  hear
• 24:12
  in
• 24:12
  all
• 24:12
  of
• 24:12
  the
• 24:12
  university
• 24:13
  groups,
• 24:13
  but
• 24:13
  far
• 24:14
  I,
• 24:14
  I
• 24:15
  hear
• 24:15
  from
• 24:15
  you
• 24:15
  that
• 24:16
  actually
• 24:16
  you
• 24:16
  can
• 24:16
  throw
• 24:17
  these,
• 24:17
  these
• 24:17
  kind
• 24:18
  of
• 24:18
  offshoot
• 24:18
  ones
• 24:18
  in.
• 24:19
  I
• 24:19
  think
• 24:19
  if
• 24:19
  you,
• 24:20
  it
• 24:20
  depends
• 24:20
  on
• 24:20
  who
• 24:21
  you
• 24:21
  are.
• 24:21
  So
• 24:21
  if
• 24:21
  you're
• 24:22
  someone
• 24:22
  who
• 24:22
  knows
• 24:23
  your
• 24:23
  heart
• 24:23
  is
• 24:23
  set
• 24:23
  on
• 24:24
  engineering
• 24:24
  or
• 24:25
  on
• 24:25
  a
• 24:25
  particular
• 24:25
  type
• 24:26
  of
• 24:26
  STEM
• 24:26
  related
• 24:27
  subject,
• 24:28
  fair
• 24:28
  enough,
• 24:28
  go
• 24:28
  for
• 24:28
  it.
• 24:29
  You
• 24:29
  know,
• 24:29
  do
• 24:29
  that
• 24:30
  maths
• 24:30
  further
• 24:30
  maths
• 24:31
  physics
• 24:31
  combo
• 24:32
  and
• 24:32
  go
• 24:32
  for
• 24:32
  it.
• 24:33
  But
• 24:33
  more
• 24:33
  students
• 24:34
  coming
• 24:34
  out
• 24:34
  of
• 24:34
  GCSEs
• 24:35
  don't
• 24:35
  have
• 24:36
  a
• 24:36
  clue.
• 24:36
  And
• 24:37
  I
• 24:37
  think
• 24:37
  education
• 24:37
  should
• 24:38
  be
• 24:38
  about
• 24:38
  exploring
• 24:39
  your
• 24:39
  brain,
• 24:40
  you
• 24:40
  know,
• 24:40
  and
• 24:40
  your
• 24:41
  brain
• 24:41
  can
• 24:41
  often
• 24:41
  be,
• 24:42
  for
• 24:42
  many
• 24:43
  clever
• 24:43
  kids,
• 24:43
  that
• 24:44
  the
• 24:44
  left
• 24:44
  and
• 24:44
  right
• 24:45
  side
• 24:45
  of
• 24:45
  their
• 24:45
  brain
• 24:45
  that
• 24:45
  they
• 24:45
  want
• 24:46
  to
• 24:46
  explore.
• 24:47
  So
• 24:47
  I
• 24:47
  mean,
• 24:47
  my
• 24:47
  daughter
• 24:48
  was
• 24:48
  in
• 24:48
  this
• 24:48
  very
• 24:48
  classic
• 24:49
  dilemma
• 24:49
  where
• 24:49
  she
• 24:49
  was
• 24:49
  really
• 24:50
  good
• 24:50
  at
• 24:50
  her
• 24:50
  maths
• 24:50
  and
• 24:50
  chemistry
• 24:51
  and
• 24:51
  all
• 24:51
  that,
• 24:51
  but
• 24:51
  she
• 24:51
  was
• 24:51
  also
• 24:52
  really
• 24:52
  good
• 24:52
  at
• 24:52
  linguistics
• 24:53
  and
• 24:54
  a
• 24:54
  few
• 24:54
  other
• 24:54
  things
• 24:56
  that,
• 24:56
  you
• 24:56
  know,
• 24:56
  she
• 24:56
  was
• 24:57
  a
• 24:57
  bit
• 24:57
  unsure
• 24:57
  what
• 24:57
  to
• 24:58
  do.
• 24:58
  And
• 24:58
  these
• 24:58
  days
• 24:59
  I
• 24:59
  think
• 24:59
  careers
• 25:00
  are
• 25:00
  no
• 25:00
  longer
• 25:01
  linear
• 25:01
  in
• 25:01
  the
• 25:02
  way
• 25:02
  that
• 25:02
  we
• 25:02
  sort
• 25:03
  of
• 25:03
  grew
• 25:03
  up
• 25:03
  with.
• 25:03
  You
• 25:04
  can
• 25:04
  pivot
• 25:04
  into
• 25:05
  all
• 25:06
  sorts
• 25:06
  of
• 25:06
  interesting
• 25:07
  careers.
• 25:07
  So
• 25:07
  she's
• 25:07
  ended
• 25:08
  up
• 25:08
  going
• 25:08
  into
• 25:08
  behavioral
• 25:09
  sciences
• 25:09
  because
• 25:09
  she
• 25:09
  took
• 25:10
  psychology
• 25:10
  as
• 25:10
  well.
• 25:11
  And
• 25:11
  you
• 25:12
  know,
• 25:12
  you
• 25:12
  can
• 25:12
  do
• 25:12
  all
• 25:12
  sorts
• 25:13
  of
• 25:13
  modeling
• 25:13
  of
• 25:14
  the
• 25:14
  brain
• 25:14
  with
• 25:15
  psychology
• 25:16
  and
• 25:16
  math
• 25:16
  sort
• 25:17
  of
• 25:17
  skills
• 25:17
  combined.
• 25:18
  And
• 25:18
  so
• 25:18
  that
• 25:19
  sort
• 25:19
  of
• 25:19
  interdisciplinarity
• 25:20
  has
• 25:20
  served
• 25:21
  her
• 25:21
  well.
• 25:21
  And
• 25:21
  she's
• 25:22
  doing
• 25:22
  this
• 25:22
  really
• 25:22
  interesting
• 25:23
  degree
• 25:23
  at
• 25:23
  UCLA
• 25:24
  called
• 25:24
  Bachelors
• 25:25
  of
• 25:25
  Arts
• 25:25
  and
• 25:25
  Sciences.
• 25:26
  And
• 25:27
  what
• 25:27
  that
• 25:27
  is,
• 25:27
  it's
• 25:28
  a
• 25:28
  bit
• 25:28
  like
• 25:28
  a
• 25:28
  liberal
• 25:28
  arts
• 25:28
  degree,
• 25:29
  a
• 25:29
  little
• 25:29
  bit
• 25:29
  like
• 25:30
  that.
• 25:30
  It
• 25:30
  sort
• 25:31
  of
• 25:31
  gives
• 25:31
  you
• 25:32
  an
• 25:32
  option
• 25:32
  of
• 25:32
  doing
• 25:33
  a
• 25:33
  major
• 25:33
  in,
• 25:34
  in
• 25:34
  her
• 25:34
  case
• 25:35
  is
• 25:35
  neuroscience.
• 25:35
  But
• 25:35
  you
• 25:36
  can
• 25:36
  do
• 25:36
  whatever
• 25:36
  you
• 25:36
  like
• 25:36
  and
• 25:37
  you
• 25:37
  can
• 25:37
  do
• 25:37
  a
• 25:37
  minor
• 25:37
  in
• 25:38
  her
• 25:38
  case
• 25:38
  that
• 25:38
  is
• 25:38
  creative
• 25:39
  studies.
• 25:40
  So
• 25:40
  she
• 25:40
  chose
• 25:40
  to
• 25:41
  take
• 25:41
  a
• 25:41
  language,
• 25:42
  she
• 25:42
  chose
• 25:42
  to
• 25:42
  take,
• 25:42
  you
• 25:43
  know,
• 25:43
  journalism
• 25:44
  kind
• 25:44
  of
• 25:44
  video
• 25:44
  journalism
• 25:45
  kind
• 25:45
  of
• 25:45
  courses.
• 25:46
  And
• 25:46
  you
• 25:46
  know,
• 25:46
  I
• 25:46
  always
• 25:47
  think
• 25:47
  like,
• 25:47
  who
• 25:47
  knows
• 25:48
  where
• 25:48
  in
• 25:48
  her
• 25:48
  career
• 25:49
  these
• 25:49
  skills
• 25:50
  will
• 25:50
  end
• 25:50
  up
• 25:50
  being
• 25:50
  really
• 25:50
  useful.
• 25:51
  Like
• 25:51
  people
• 25:51
  who
• 25:52
  do,
• 25:52
  for
• 25:52
  example,
• 25:53
  scientific
• 25:53
  journalism,
• 25:54
  that
• 25:54
  is,
• 25:55
  that's
• 25:55
  a
• 25:55
  field
• 25:55
  that
• 25:55
  combines
• 25:56
  a
• 25:56
  whole
• 25:56
  host
• 25:57
  of
• 25:57
  things
• 25:57
  that,
• 25:57
  you
• 25:58
  know,
• 25:58
  conventionally
• 25:58
  you
• 25:59
  might
• 25:59
  not
• 25:59
  think
• 25:59
  of
• 25:59
  when
• 25:59
  you're
• 26:00
  first
• 26:00
  planning
• 26:00
  ahead.
• 26:01
  So
• 26:01
  you
• 26:01
  don't
• 26:01
  know
• 26:02
  where
• 26:02
  your
• 26:02
  career
• 26:02
  journey
• 26:02
  is
• 26:03
  necessarily
• 26:03
  going
• 26:03
  to
• 26:03
  take
• 26:03
  you.
• 26:04
  And
• 26:04
  I
• 26:04
  think
• 26:04
  something
• 26:04
  that
• 26:04
  makes
• 26:05
  you
• 26:05
  versatile,
• 26:05
  dynamic,
• 26:06
  interesting,
• 26:07
  unusual,
• 26:08
  can
• 26:08
  only
• 26:08
  benefit
• 26:09
  you.
• 26:09
  It
• 26:09
  might
• 26:10
  not
• 26:10
  be
• 26:10
  as
• 26:10
  easy
• 26:11
  to
• 26:11
  sort
• 26:12
  of
• 26:12
  carve
• 26:12
  out
• 26:13
  that
• 26:13
  pathway
• 26:13
  from
• 26:14
  the
• 26:14
  beginning.
• 26:14
  But
• 26:15
  I
• 26:15
  think
• 26:15
  people
• 26:15
  find
• 26:15
  themselves
• 26:16
  along
• 26:16
  the
• 26:16
  way.
• 26:17
  I
• 26:17
  feel
• 26:18
  like
• 26:18
  I
• 26:18
  completely
• 26:19
  agree
• 26:20
  and
• 26:20
  I
• 26:20
  feel
• 26:20
  like
• 26:20
  everyone
• 26:21
  listening
• 26:21
  would
• 26:21
  agree.
• 26:22
  But.
• 26:22
  But
• 26:22
  I
• 26:22
  guess
• 26:23
  my
• 26:23
  question
• 26:23
  is,
• 26:23
  do
• 26:23
  the
• 26:23
  universities
• 26:24
  agree
• 26:24
  when
• 26:25
  you're
• 26:25
  applying?
• 26:26
  I
• 26:27
  think
• 26:27
  Universities
• 26:27
  are
• 26:28
  starting
• 26:28
  to
• 26:28
  see
• 26:28
  the
• 26:29
  light
• 26:29
  with
• 26:29
  this.
• 26:30
  I'm
• 26:30
  starting
• 26:30
  to
• 26:31
  see
• 26:31
  more
• 26:31
  and
• 26:31
  more
• 26:31
  unusual
• 26:32
  degrees.
• 26:33
  Like,
• 26:33
  when
• 26:33
  I
• 26:33
  say
• 26:34
  unusual,
• 26:34
  I
• 26:34
  mean
• 26:34
  maybe
• 26:35
  interdisciplinary
• 26:35
  degrees
• 26:36
  coming
• 26:36
  out.
• 26:37
  And
• 26:37
  I
• 26:37
  think
• 26:37
  the
• 26:38
  UK
• 26:38
  is
• 26:38
  a
• 26:39
  little
• 26:39
  bit
• 26:39
  further
• 26:39
  behind
• 26:40
  in
• 26:40
  this
• 26:40
  area,
• 26:40
  like,
• 26:41
  so
• 26:41
  theirs
• 26:41
  are
• 26:42
  a
• 26:42
  little
• 26:42
  bit
• 26:42
  trickier
• 26:43
  and
• 26:43
  a
• 26:43
  little
• 26:43
  bit
• 26:43
  more
• 26:43
  streamlined.
• 26:44
  But
• 26:44
  even
• 26:45
  then
• 26:45
  there
• 26:45
  are.
• 26:46
  And
• 26:46
  I'm
• 26:46
  sure
• 26:46
  Caroline
• 26:47
  could
• 26:47
  speak
• 26:47
  to
• 26:47
  this.
• 26:47
  I
• 26:47
  know
• 26:48
  sometimes
• 26:48
  Imperial
• 26:49
  Business
• 26:49
  School
• 26:49
  and
• 26:49
  others
• 26:50
  are
• 26:50
  coming
• 26:50
  out
• 26:50
  with
• 26:51
  broader
• 26:52
  degrees
• 26:52
  that
• 26:52
  address
• 26:53
  sort
• 26:53
  of
• 26:53
  two,
• 26:54
  three
• 26:54
  disciplines
• 26:54
  together.
• 26:55
  And
• 26:56
  universities
• 26:56
  actually
• 26:56
  really
• 26:57
  like
• 26:57
  it
• 26:57
  when
• 26:57
  you've
• 26:57
  got,
• 26:58
  say
• 26:58
  you've
• 26:58
  got
• 26:58
  maths,
• 26:59
  you
• 26:59
  know,
• 27:00
  physics
• 27:00
  and
• 27:00
  history.
• 27:01
  My
• 27:02
  niece
• 27:02
  actually
• 27:02
  did
• 27:03
  that.
• 27:03
  She
• 27:03
  applied
• 27:03
  to
• 27:03
  Imperial
• 27:04
  for
• 27:04
  Civil
• 27:04
  engineering
• 27:05
  and
• 27:05
  that
• 27:05
  history
• 27:06
  was
• 27:06
  a
• 27:06
  plus
• 27:06
  because
• 27:06
  it
• 27:07
  made
• 27:07
  her
• 27:07
  stand
• 27:07
  apart
• 27:08
  from
• 27:08
  others,
• 27:09
  you
• 27:09
  know,
• 27:09
  who
• 27:09
  had
• 27:10
  purely
• 27:10
  followed
• 27:11
  that
• 27:11
  STEM
• 27:11
  route.
• 27:11
  It
• 27:11
  just
• 27:11
  showed
• 27:12
  her
• 27:12
  as
• 27:12
  a
• 27:12
  more
• 27:12
  versatile
• 27:13
  kind
• 27:13
  of
• 27:13
  candidate.
• 27:14
  And
• 27:15
  there
• 27:15
  is
• 27:15
  a
• 27:15
  lot
• 27:15
  of,
• 27:16
  you
• 27:16
  know,
• 27:16
  there's
• 27:16
  a
• 27:16
  lot
• 27:17
  of,
• 27:17
  kind
• 27:17
  of
• 27:17
  crossover
• 27:18
  between
• 27:18
  the
• 27:18
  way
• 27:18
  you
• 27:18
  think
• 27:19
  critically
• 27:19
  in
• 27:19
  history
• 27:20
  that
• 27:20
  you
• 27:20
  can.
• 27:20
  And
• 27:21
  maps
• 27:21
  that
• 27:21
  you
• 27:21
  can
• 27:21
  kind
• 27:21
  of
• 27:22
  bring
• 27:22
  together.
• 27:22
  And
• 27:22
  I
• 27:23
  had
• 27:23
  a
• 27:23
  student
• 27:23
  who
• 27:23
  could
• 27:23
  never
• 27:24
  choose
• 27:24
  between
• 27:24
  the
• 27:24
  two.
• 27:25
  And
• 27:25
  it's
• 27:25
  a
• 27:25
  real
• 27:26
  dilemma.
• 27:26
  But,
• 27:26
  you
• 27:26
  know,
• 27:27
  I.
• 27:27
  I
• 27:27
  just
• 27:27
  think
• 27:27
  there's
• 27:27
  not
• 27:28
  a
• 27:28
  harm
• 27:28
  in
• 27:28
  sometimes
• 27:29
  having
• 27:29
  a.
• 27:30
  An
• 27:30
  option
• 27:30
  which
• 27:31
  is
• 27:31
  a
• 27:31
  little
• 27:31
  bit
• 27:31
  different
• 27:32
  in
• 27:32
  your
• 27:32
  A
• 27:33
  levels.
• 27:33
  Yeah.
• 27:34
  So
• 27:34
  I
• 27:34
  wanted
• 27:34
  to
• 27:35
  as
• 27:35
  well
• 27:35
  talk
• 27:35
  about
• 27:36
  one
• 27:37
  really
• 27:38
  popular
• 27:38
  degree
• 27:39
  at
• 27:39
  the
• 27:39
  moment.
• 27:39
  It
• 27:39
  seems
• 27:39
  that
• 27:39
  everyone.
• 27:40
  I'm
• 27:40
  a
• 27:40
  maths
• 27:41
  tutor,
• 27:41
  so
• 27:42
  all
• 27:42
  of
• 27:42
  my
• 27:43
  tutees
• 27:43
  seem
• 27:43
  to
• 27:43
  want
• 27:44
  to
• 27:44
  do
• 27:44
  an
• 27:44
  economics
• 27:44
  degree.
• 27:45
  I
• 27:45
  know
• 27:46
  we're
• 27:47
  going
• 27:47
  to
• 27:47
  have
• 27:47
  an
• 27:47
  entire
• 27:47
  world
• 27:48
  of
• 27:48
  economists
• 27:49
  and
• 27:49
  I'm
• 27:49
  not
• 27:49
  sure
• 27:49
  that's
• 27:49
  a
• 27:50
  great
• 27:50
  thing,
• 27:50
  to
• 27:50
  be
• 27:50
  honest.
• 27:51
  I'm
• 27:51
  not
• 27:52
  sure
• 27:52
  either.
• 27:52
  But
• 27:54
  what's
• 27:54
  important
• 27:54
  is
• 27:55
  that
• 27:55
  actually
• 27:55
  a
• 27:56
  lot
• 27:56
  of
• 27:56
  the
• 27:56
  universities,
• 27:57
  they
• 27:57
  actually
• 27:58
  prize
• 27:58
  A
• 27:58
  level
• 27:59
  maths
• 28:00
  over
• 28:00
  A
• 28:00
  level
• 28:01
  Economics.
• 28:02
  So
• 28:02
  it's
• 28:02
  often
• 28:02
  A
• 28:03
  level
• 28:03
  maths
• 28:03
  is
• 28:04
  the
• 28:04
  necessity
• 28:04
  rather
• 28:05
  than
• 28:05
  A
• 28:05
  level
• 28:06
  economics.
• 28:07
  And
• 28:07
  talking
• 28:07
  about
• 28:08
  interdisciplinary
• 28:09
  degrees,
• 28:10
  Imperial
• 28:10
  College,
• 28:11
  they
• 28:11
  also
• 28:12
  have
• 28:12
  got
• 28:12
  a
• 28:12
  new
• 28:12
  course
• 28:13
  that
• 28:13
  they
• 28:13
  launched
• 28:14
  two
• 28:14
  years
• 28:14
  ago,
• 28:14
  which
• 28:14
  is
• 28:14
  called
• 28:15
  Economics,
• 28:17
  Data
• 28:17
  Science
• 28:17
  and
• 28:18
  Finance.
• 28:18
  So
• 28:19
  they're
• 28:19
  like
• 28:19
  smashing
• 28:20
  lots
• 28:20
  of
• 28:20
  things
• 28:20
  together.
• 28:21
  And
• 28:22
  back
• 28:22
  to
• 28:22
  biology,
• 28:23
  which
• 28:23
  we
• 28:23
  did
• 28:23
  this
• 28:24
  earlier.
• 28:24
  They've.
• 28:24
  Imperial
• 28:25
  also
• 28:25
  have
• 28:26
  a
• 28:26
  course,
• 28:26
  I
• 28:26
  think
• 28:26
  it's
• 28:27
  called
• 28:27
  Biotechnology
• 28:28
  Ventures
• 28:29
  with
• 28:29
  Management.
• 28:30
  Yes.
• 28:30
  So
• 28:31
  even
• 28:31
  some
• 28:31
  of
• 28:32
  these
• 28:32
  prestigious
• 28:32
  universities,
• 28:33
  I
• 28:33
  went
• 28:33
  to,
• 28:33
  Imperial,
• 28:35
  I
• 28:35
  won't
• 28:35
  put
• 28:36
  it
• 28:36
  in
• 28:36
  inverted
• 28:36
  commas.
• 28:37
  These
• 28:37
  prestigious
• 28:38
  universities
• 28:38
  like
• 28:38
  Imperial
• 28:39
  College
• 28:40
  are
• 28:41
  actually
• 28:42
  diversifying
• 28:43
  their
• 28:43
  subjects
• 28:44
  and
• 28:44
  not
• 28:44
  just
• 28:44
  being
• 28:45
  nerdy,
• 28:45
  nerdy,
• 28:46
  since
• 28:46
  they
• 28:46
  realize
• 28:47
  there's
• 28:48
  commerce
• 28:48
  there
• 28:48
  and
• 28:49
  management
• 28:49
  skills
• 28:50
  are
• 28:50
  valuable.
• 28:51
  Biotechnology
• 28:52
  Ventures,
• 28:53
  the
• 28:54
  degree
• 28:54
  that
• 28:54
  Caroline
• 28:54
  just
• 28:55
  mentioned
• 28:55
  is
• 28:55
  one
• 28:55
  that
• 28:55
  I've
• 28:56
  recently
• 28:56
  discovered
• 28:57
  and
• 28:58
  the
• 28:59
  subjects
• 28:59
  you
• 28:59
  need
• 28:59
  for
• 28:59
  it
• 29:00
  are
• 29:00
  biology,
• 29:00
  chemistry
• 29:01
  and
• 29:01
  maths.
• 29:02
  And
• 29:02
  when
• 29:02
  students
• 29:03
  have
• 29:03
  these
• 29:03
  subjects,
• 29:04
  what
• 29:04
  do
• 29:04
  they
• 29:04
  think?
• 29:05
  Usually
• 29:06
  they
• 29:06
  just
• 29:06
  think
• 29:06
  medicine.
• 29:07
  They
• 29:07
  can't
• 29:07
  think
• 29:08
  beyond
• 29:08
  that
• 29:09
  one
• 29:09
  sort
• 29:10
  of
• 29:10
  specialty
• 29:10
  with
• 29:10
  those
• 29:11
  subjects.
• 29:11
  But
• 29:11
  the
• 29:11
  world
• 29:11
  is
• 29:12
  expanding
• 29:13
  and
• 29:13
  this
• 29:13
  is
• 29:13
  where
• 29:14
  AI
• 29:14
  in
• 29:14
  particular,
• 29:15
  if
• 29:15
  you
• 29:15
  think
• 29:15
  about
• 29:16
  artificial
• 29:16
  intelligence,
• 29:17
  where
• 29:17
  it's
• 29:17
  being
• 29:17
  applied
• 29:18
  to,
• 29:19
  it's,
• 29:19
  it's
• 29:19
  bringing
• 29:20
  things
• 29:20
  together
• 29:20
  in
• 29:21
  a
• 29:21
  way
• 29:21
  that
• 29:21
  perhaps
• 29:22
  people
• 29:22
  wouldn't
• 29:22
  have
• 29:22
  realized
• 29:23
  because
• 29:23
  data
• 29:23
  is
• 29:23
  everywhere.
• 29:24
  Data
• 29:24
  needs
• 29:24
  to
• 29:24
  be
• 29:24
  analyzed
• 29:25
  for
• 29:25
  all
• 29:25
  sorts
• 29:26
  of
• 29:26
  fields.
• 29:27
  And
• 29:27
  so
• 29:27
  you
• 29:27
  could
• 29:28
  easily
• 29:28
  do,
• 29:28
  you
• 29:29
  know,
• 29:29
  data
• 29:29
  science
• 29:30
  and
• 29:30
  xyz.
• 29:32
  And
• 29:32
  what
• 29:32
  that
• 29:33
  XYZ
• 29:33
  could
• 29:33
  be
• 29:34
  is
• 29:34
  getting
• 29:34
  larger
• 29:34
  and
• 29:35
  larger
• 29:35
  and
• 29:35
  larger
• 29:36
  because
• 29:36
  it's
• 29:36
  applicable
• 29:37
  to
• 29:37
  so
• 29:37
  many
• 29:38
  different
• 29:38
  areas.
• 29:39
  I'm
• 29:39
  glad
• 29:39
  you
• 29:39
  brought
• 29:39
  the
• 29:40
  conversation
• 29:40
  around
• 29:40
  to
• 29:40
  AI,
• 29:41
  because
• 29:41
  I
• 29:41
  have
• 29:41
  a
• 29:41
  question
• 29:42
  about
• 29:42
  AI
• 29:42
  and
• 29:43
  I
• 29:43
  have
• 29:43
  a
• 29:43
  question
• 29:43
  about
• 29:44
  medicine.
• 29:44
  So
• 29:44
  this
• 29:44
  is
• 29:45
  perfect.
• 29:45
  My
• 29:45
  question
• 29:46
  about
• 29:46
  AI
• 29:47
  is
• 29:48
  as
• 29:48
  STEMI
• 29:49
  nerds.
• 29:50
  Self
• 29:51
  proclaimed
• 29:51
  STEM
• 29:52
  nerds.
• 29:52
  Right.
• 29:53
  Are
• 29:53
  you
• 29:53
  worried
• 29:54
  about
• 29:54
  the
• 29:55
  impact
• 29:55
  that
• 29:55
  AI
• 29:56
  is
• 29:56
  going
• 29:56
  to
• 29:56
  have
• 29:56
  on
• 29:57
  students
• 29:57
  who
• 29:58
  are
• 29:58
  currently
• 29:58
  studying
• 29:59
  STEM
• 30:00
  subjects
• 30:00
  at
• 30:00
  A
• 30:00
  level
• 30:01
  and
• 30:01
  university
• 30:01
  and
• 30:02
  the
• 30:02
  world
• 30:02
  that
• 30:02
  they're
• 30:02
  going
• 30:02
  to
• 30:03
  be
• 30:03
  entering
• 30:04
  when
• 30:04
  they
• 30:04
  graduate?
• 30:05
  I
• 30:06
  mean,
• 30:06
  are
• 30:06
  these
• 30:06
  jobs
• 30:07
  still
• 30:07
  going
• 30:07
  to
• 30:07
  be
• 30:07
  there
• 30:08
  that
• 30:08
  they're
• 30:08
  currently
• 30:08
  studying
• 30:09
  towards?
• 30:10
  Shall
• 30:10
  I
• 30:11
  talk
• 30:11
  about
• 30:11
  it?
• 30:12
  I
• 30:12
  mean,
• 30:12
  I'm
• 30:12
  just
• 30:12
  a
• 30:12
  huge
• 30:13
  fan
• 30:13
  of
• 30:13
  AI.
• 30:14
  I
• 30:15
  mean,
• 30:15
  yes,
• 30:16
  I
• 30:17
  think
• 30:17
  it
• 30:17
  allows
• 30:19
  students,
• 30:20
  a
• 30:20
  nerd,
• 30:20
  to
• 30:21
  unlock
• 30:21
  their
• 30:21
  creativity
• 30:23
  because
• 30:23
  it's
• 30:24
  like
• 30:24
  when
• 30:24
  the
• 30:24
  calculator,
• 30:25
  the
• 30:25
  scientific
• 30:26
  calculator
• 30:26
  was
• 30:26
  invented,
• 30:27
  then
• 30:28
  mathematicians
• 30:29
  and
• 30:29
  physicists
• 30:30
  and
• 30:30
  engineers
• 30:30
  didn't
• 30:31
  have
• 30:31
  to
• 30:31
  spend
• 30:31
  time
• 30:32
  looking
• 30:32
  up
• 30:33
  in
• 30:33
  those
• 30:34
  books,
• 30:34
  like
• 30:34
  what
• 30:35
  is
• 30:35
  sine
• 30:35
  30
• 30:36
  basically?
• 30:36
  Or
• 30:36
  cosine
• 30:37
  cos
• 30:37
  of
• 30:38
  the
• 30:38
  minus
• 30:38
  1
• 30:38
  of
• 30:39
  2/5.
• 30:40
  They
• 30:41
  could
• 30:41
  actually
• 30:41
  just
• 30:41
  quickly
• 30:42
  do
• 30:42
  the
• 30:42
  calculation.
• 30:42
  And
• 30:43
  again,
• 30:43
  when
• 30:44
  computers
• 30:44
  were
• 30:44
  introduced,
• 30:45
  they
• 30:45
  could
• 30:45
  do
• 30:45
  all
• 30:46
  the
• 30:46
  calculations
• 30:47
  so
• 30:47
  much
• 30:48
  faster
• 30:48
  than
• 30:49
  humans.
• 30:49
  So
• 30:50
  scientists
• 30:50
  could
• 30:50
  be
• 30:51
  more
• 30:51
  creative.
• 30:52
  And
• 30:52
  again,
• 30:52
  with
• 30:52
  AI,
• 30:53
  it's
• 30:53
  going
• 30:54
  to
• 30:54
  give
• 30:54
  us
• 30:55
  nerds
• 30:55
  the
• 30:56
  power
• 30:57
  to
• 30:57
  actually
• 30:57
  just
• 30:58
  be
• 30:58
  more
• 30:58
  creative
• 30:59
  and
• 30:59
  think
• 30:59
  of
• 31:00
  more
• 31:00
  ideas
• 31:01
  and
• 31:01
  implement
• 31:02
  our
• 31:02
  ideas
• 31:02
  faster.
• 31:03
  But
• 31:03
  isn't
• 31:04
  AI
• 31:04
  the
• 31:04
  ultimate
• 31:05
  nerd?
• 31:05
  And
• 31:06
  as
• 31:06
  such,
• 31:06
  isn't
• 31:06
  it
• 31:06
  just
• 31:06
  going
• 31:07
  to
• 31:07
  put
• 31:07
  lots
• 31:07
  of
• 31:07
  nerds
• 31:07
  out
• 31:08
  of
• 31:08
  business?
• 31:10
  I
• 31:10
  think
• 31:10
  things
• 31:10
  will
• 31:11
  evolve.
• 31:11
  I
• 31:12
  think
• 31:13
  the
• 31:13
  human
• 31:14
  capabilities
• 31:14
  will
• 31:15
  definitely
• 31:15
  come
• 31:16
  back
• 31:16
  into
• 31:16
  the
• 31:16
  fray
• 31:17
  because.
• 31:19
  There
• 31:19
  are
• 31:19
  some
• 31:20
  jobs
• 31:20
  that
• 31:20
  will
• 31:20
  be
• 31:21
  lost
• 31:21
  to
• 31:21
  AI,
• 31:23
  which
• 31:23
  AI
• 31:24
  can
• 31:24
  do
• 31:24
  a
• 31:24
  lot
• 31:24
  faster.
• 31:25
  But
• 31:26
  it's
• 31:26
  such
• 31:26
  a
• 31:26
  tricky
• 31:27
  question
• 31:27
  because
• 31:27
  no
• 31:27
  one
• 31:28
  has
• 31:28
  the
• 31:28
  answer
• 31:28
  to
• 31:28
  it
• 31:29
  because
• 31:30
  that
• 31:30
  whole
• 31:30
  landscape
• 31:31
  is
• 31:31
  evolving
• 31:31
  so
• 31:32
  quickly.
• 31:34
  One
• 31:34
  of
• 31:34
  the
• 31:34
  LinkedIn
• 31:35
  people
• 31:35
  I
• 31:35
  follow
• 31:36
  mentioned
• 31:36
  the
• 31:36
  gold
• 31:36
  rush.
• 31:37
  We
• 31:37
  all
• 31:37
  feel
• 31:37
  like
• 31:37
  we're
• 31:38
  trying
• 31:38
  to
• 31:38
  catch
• 31:38
  up
• 31:38
  and
• 31:39
  we're
• 31:39
  all
• 31:39
  in
• 31:39
  this
• 31:39
  world
• 31:40
  where.
• 31:41
  And
• 31:41
  it
• 31:42
  is
• 31:42
  very
• 31:42
  difficult
• 31:42
  to
• 31:43
  predict
• 31:43
  what
• 31:43
  the
• 31:43
  world
• 31:44
  will
• 31:44
  look
• 31:44
  like.
• 31:44
  But
• 31:45
  what
• 31:45
  you
• 31:45
  can't
• 31:45
  do
• 31:46
  is
• 31:46
  put
• 31:46
  your
• 31:47
  head
• 31:47
  in
• 31:47
  the
• 31:47
  sand
• 31:47
  and
• 31:48
  pretend
• 31:48
  it
• 31:48
  doesn't
• 31:49
  exist.
• 31:49
  I
• 31:49
  think
• 31:49
  everyone,
• 31:50
  like
• 31:50
  Caroline
• 31:51
  said,
• 31:51
  it's
• 31:51
  only
• 31:52
  to
• 31:52
  your
• 31:52
  benefit
• 31:52
  as
• 31:53
  a
• 31:53
  student,
• 31:53
  teacher,
• 31:54
  educator
• 31:55
  or
• 31:56
  parent
• 31:57
  to
• 31:57
  start
• 31:58
  engaging
• 31:58
  with
• 31:58
  it,
• 31:59
  start
• 31:59
  seeing
• 31:59
  what
• 32:00
  the
• 32:00
  capabilities
• 32:00
  are
• 32:00
  and
• 32:01
  actually
• 32:02
  using
• 32:02
  it
• 32:02
  in
• 32:03
  a
• 32:03
  way
• 32:03
  that
• 32:03
  keeps
• 32:04
  the
• 32:04
  human
• 32:04
  intelligence
• 32:06
  at
• 32:06
  the
• 32:06
  forefront.
• 32:07
  So
• 32:07
  when
• 32:07
  I
• 32:08
  say
• 32:08
  that,
• 32:08
  I
• 32:08
  mean,
• 32:09
  don't
• 32:09
  use
• 32:09
  it
• 32:09
  to
• 32:10
  be
• 32:10
  a
• 32:10
  lazy
• 32:11
  sort
• 32:11
  of
• 32:11
  student,
• 32:12
  don't
• 32:12
  use
• 32:12
  it
• 32:12
  to
• 32:13
  just
• 32:13
  offload
• 32:14
  your
• 32:14
  cognitive
• 32:14
  capabilities.
• 32:15
  Don't
• 32:15
  use
• 32:15
  it
• 32:15
  so
• 32:16
  it
• 32:16
  makes
• 32:16
  you
• 32:16
  dumber.
• 32:17
  Make
• 32:17
  use
• 32:18
  it
• 32:18
  so
• 32:18
  that
• 32:18
  you
• 32:18
  leverage
• 32:19
  its
• 32:19
  capabilities.
• 32:19
  But
• 32:20
  you
• 32:20
  are
• 32:20
  in
• 32:20
  charge
• 32:21
  of
• 32:21
  your
• 32:21
  learning
• 32:21
  and
• 32:21
  you
• 32:22
  use
• 32:22
  it
• 32:22
  in
• 32:22
  a
• 32:22
  way
• 32:22
  that
• 32:23
  you
• 32:23
  know
• 32:24
  that
• 32:24
  that
• 32:24
  is
• 32:24
  benefiting
• 32:25
  you,
• 32:25
  rather
• 32:26
  than
• 32:26
  just
• 32:26
  offloading
• 32:27
  everything
• 32:28
  to
• 32:28
  it.
• 32:29
  Okay,
• 32:29
  that's
• 32:29
  reassuring.
• 32:30
  My
• 32:31
  question
• 32:31
  about
• 32:31
  medicine
• 32:32
  is
• 32:32
  that
• 32:33
  I
• 32:33
  am
• 32:33
  a
• 32:33
  member
• 32:34
  of
• 32:34
  the
• 32:34
  what
• 32:34
  I
• 32:35
  Wish
• 32:36
  I
• 32:36
  Knew
• 32:37
  About
• 32:37
  University
• 32:39
  Facebook
• 32:39
  group.
• 32:40
  I
• 32:40
  think
• 32:40
  that's
• 32:40
  what
• 32:40
  it's
• 32:41
  called.
• 32:41
  It's
• 32:41
  got.
• 32:41
  It's
• 32:41
  actually
• 32:42
  got
• 32:42
  an
• 32:42
  acronym,
• 32:42
  which
• 32:43
  is
• 32:43
  much
• 32:43
  easier,
• 32:44
  but
• 32:44
  I
• 32:44
  still
• 32:44
  can't
• 32:44
  remember
• 32:45
  that.
• 32:45
  Anyway,
• 32:45
  it's
• 32:45
  a
• 32:45
  very
• 32:45
  good
• 32:46
  Facebook
• 32:46
  group
• 32:46
  for
• 32:46
  anyone
• 32:47
  whose
• 32:47
  child
• 32:48
  is
• 32:48
  looking
• 32:48
  at
• 32:48
  going
• 32:48
  to
• 32:49
  university.
• 32:49
  But
• 32:49
  there
• 32:50
  is
• 32:50
  a
• 32:50
  constant
• 32:51
  discussion
• 32:51
  around
• 32:51
  medicine
• 32:52
  in
• 32:52
  it.
• 32:53
  Because
• 32:53
  in
• 32:54
  the
• 32:54
  uk,
• 32:55
  I
• 32:55
  know
• 32:55
  that
• 32:55
  there
• 32:56
  is
• 32:56
  an
• 32:56
  issue
• 32:56
  with
• 32:57
  students
• 32:57
  who
• 32:58
  are
• 32:58
  going
• 32:58
  to
• 32:58
  study
• 32:59
  medicine.
• 32:59
  It's
• 33:00
  a
• 33:00
  long
• 33:00
  process,
• 33:00
  like
• 33:01
  for
• 33:01
  five
• 33:01
  years
• 33:01
  or
• 33:02
  something,
• 33:02
  maybe
• 33:02
  more
• 33:02
  than
• 33:03
  that.
• 33:03
  And
• 33:03
  the
• 33:04
  jobs
• 33:04
  at
• 33:04
  the
• 33:05
  end
• 33:05
  of
• 33:05
  it,
• 33:06
  they're
• 33:06
  just,
• 33:07
  just
• 33:07
  not
• 33:07
  there
• 33:07
  because
• 33:08
  there's
• 33:08
  not
• 33:09
  enough
• 33:09
  recruitment
• 33:09
  in
• 33:10
  the
• 33:10
  nhs.
• 33:10
  So
• 33:10
  you've
• 33:11
  got
• 33:11
  all
• 33:11
  these
• 33:12
  medical
• 33:12
  students
• 33:13
  who
• 33:13
  can't
• 33:13
  actually
• 33:13
  complete
• 33:14
  their
• 33:14
  degrees
• 33:14
  because
• 33:15
  they
• 33:15
  can't
• 33:15
  do
• 33:15
  the
• 33:15
  final
• 33:16
  bits
• 33:16
  of
• 33:16
  their
• 33:16
  courses
• 33:17
  or
• 33:17
  they're
• 33:17
  not
• 33:17
  finding
• 33:18
  the
• 33:18
  jobs.
• 33:18
  Is
• 33:19
  there
• 33:19
  a
• 33:19
  worry
• 33:20
  around
• 33:20
  studying
• 33:21
  things
• 33:21
  like
• 33:21
  medicine
• 33:22
  or
• 33:23
  doing
• 33:23
  stem,
• 33:24
  you
• 33:24
  know,
• 33:24
  doing
• 33:24
  the
• 33:25
  A
• 33:25
  levels
• 33:25
  as
• 33:25
  a
• 33:25
  home
• 33:26
  educator
• 33:26
  and
• 33:26
  thinking,
• 33:26
  yes,
• 33:27
  my
• 33:27
  child's
• 33:27
  going
• 33:27
  to
• 33:27
  become
• 33:28
  a
• 33:28
  doctor.
• 33:28
  And
• 33:28
  then
• 33:29
  this
• 33:29
  world
• 33:29
  seems
• 33:29
  to
• 33:29
  have
• 33:30
  slightly
• 33:30
  disappeared
• 33:30
  from
• 33:31
  us.
• 33:32
  Yeah,
• 33:32
  I
• 33:32
  can
• 33:32
  see
• 33:33
  that.
• 33:33
  And
• 33:33
  also
• 33:33
  with
• 33:34
  computer
• 33:34
  science,
• 33:35
  my
• 33:35
  daughter
• 33:35
  did
• 33:35
  computer
• 33:36
  science
• 33:36
  degree
• 33:37
  how
• 33:37
  many
• 33:37
  years
• 33:37
  ago?
• 33:37
  Six,
• 33:38
  seven,
• 33:39
  eight
• 33:39
  years
• 33:39
  ago.
• 33:40
  And
• 33:40
  at
• 33:40
  that
• 33:41
  time
• 33:41
  it
• 33:42
  was
• 33:42
  actually.
• 33:42
  She
• 33:43
  got
• 33:43
  in
• 33:43
  on
• 33:44
  it
• 33:44
  early,
• 33:44
  before
• 33:44
  you
• 33:45
  needed
• 33:45
  three
• 33:45
  A
• 33:45
  stars
• 33:46
  to
• 33:46
  actually
• 33:47
  do
• 33:47
  it.
• 33:48
  But
• 33:49
  then
• 33:49
  it
• 33:49
  was
• 33:49
  like
• 33:50
  the
• 33:50
  gold
• 33:50
  rush,
• 33:50
  you
• 33:50
  know,
• 33:51
  got
• 33:51
  to
• 33:51
  do
• 33:51
  computer
• 33:52
  science,
• 33:52
  then
• 33:52
  I'll
• 33:52
  graduate
• 33:53
  now
• 33:53
  and
• 33:53
  be
• 33:53
  rich.
• 33:53
  But
• 33:53
  then
• 33:54
  AI
• 33:54
  comes
• 33:54
  along
• 33:54
  and,
• 33:55
  hey,
• 33:55
  you
• 33:55
  don't
• 33:55
  actually,
• 33:56
  actually
• 33:56
  need
• 33:56
  to
• 33:56
  know
• 33:57
  how
• 33:57
  to
• 33:57
  write
• 33:58
  in
• 33:58
  Python
• 33:59
  because
• 34:00
  you
• 34:00
  could
• 34:00
  just
• 34:00
  say,
• 34:01
  please
• 34:01
  build
• 34:01
  me
• 34:01
  a
• 34:02
  website
• 34:02
  that
• 34:02
  does
• 34:02
  this.
• 34:03
  So
• 34:03
  I
• 34:03
  guess,
• 34:04
  yeah,
• 34:04
  but
• 34:05
  I
• 34:05
  think
• 34:05
  even
• 34:05
  the
• 34:06
  skills
• 34:07
  that
• 34:07
  those
• 34:08
  medics
• 34:08
  have
• 34:09
  learned
• 34:09
  through
• 34:09
  their
• 34:09
  degree
• 34:10
  and
• 34:10
  those
• 34:10
  computer
• 34:11
  science
• 34:11
  students
• 34:12
  have
• 34:12
  learned
• 34:12
  they
• 34:13
  can
• 34:13
  use
• 34:13
  those
• 34:13
  skills
• 34:13
  to
• 34:14
  pivot
• 34:14
  into
• 34:14
  other
• 34:14
  areas.
• 34:16
  Yeah,
• 34:16
  I
• 34:16
  hear
• 34:16
  what
• 34:17
  you're
• 34:17
  saying.
• 34:17
  I,
• 34:17
  I
• 34:18
  also
• 34:18
  can
• 34:18
  imagine
• 34:19
  a
• 34:19
  lot
• 34:19
  of
• 34:20
  students
• 34:20
  who've
• 34:20
  spent
• 34:21
  five
• 34:21
  years
• 34:21
  studying
• 34:21
  medicine
• 34:22
  thinking,
• 34:22
  I
• 34:22
  don't
• 34:22
  want
• 34:23
  to
• 34:23
  pivot
• 34:23
  into
• 34:23
  something
• 34:24
  else,
• 34:24
  but
• 34:24
  I
• 34:25
  completely.
• 34:25
  I
• 34:25
  know
• 34:26
  exactly
• 34:26
  what
• 34:26
  you
• 34:26
  mean.
• 34:26
  It's.
• 34:27
  It
• 34:27
  is
• 34:28
  one
• 34:28
  of
• 34:28
  those
• 34:28
  things
• 34:28
  where,
• 34:29
  whether
• 34:29
  it's
• 34:29
  STEM
• 34:30
  or
• 34:30
  any
• 34:30
  other
• 34:31
  subject,
• 34:32
  university,
• 34:32
  the
• 34:32
  world
• 34:32
  is
• 34:33
  changing
• 34:33
  and
• 34:33
  it's
• 34:33
  very
• 34:33
  difficult
• 34:34
  to
• 34:34
  predict
• 34:34
  sort
• 34:35
  of
• 34:35
  what
• 34:35
  you're
• 34:35
  going
• 34:35
  to
• 34:35
  get
• 34:36
  at
• 34:36
  the
• 34:36
  end
• 34:36
  of
• 34:36
  it.
• 34:36
  A
• 34:36
  lot
• 34:36
  of
• 34:37
  it
• 34:37
  can
• 34:37
  be.
• 34:37
  Is
• 34:38
  actually
• 34:38
  driven
• 34:39
  by
• 34:39
  politics
• 34:40
  and
• 34:40
  policies
• 34:41
  and
• 34:42
  we
• 34:42
  can't
• 34:42
  control
• 34:42
  that.
• 34:43
  No,
• 34:43
  we
• 34:44
  just
• 34:44
  have
• 34:44
  to
• 34:44
  prepare
• 34:44
  our
• 34:45
  children.
• 34:45
  Right.
• 34:46
  And
• 34:46
  I
• 34:46
  think
• 34:46
  that's
• 34:46
  one
• 34:47
  thing
• 34:47
  about
• 34:47
  home
• 34:47
  education
• 34:47
  is
• 34:48
  you
• 34:48
  do
• 34:48
  prepare
• 34:48
  your
• 34:49
  child
• 34:49
  in
• 34:49
  that
• 34:50
  way
• 34:50
  because
• 34:50
  they
• 34:50
  have
• 34:50
  this
• 34:51
  inherent
• 34:51
  love
• 34:51
  of
• 34:51
  learning,
• 34:52
  they're
• 34:52
  autonomous
• 34:53
  learners,
• 34:53
  they
• 34:54
  take
• 34:54
  responsibility
• 34:54
  for
• 34:55
  their
• 34:55
  learning,
• 34:55
  etc.
• 34:56
  I
• 34:56
  wanted
• 34:56
  to
• 34:56
  very
• 34:57
  briefly
• 34:57
  talk
• 34:57
  about
• 34:58
  further
• 34:58
  maths.
• 34:59
  So
• 34:59
  when
• 34:59
  you're
• 35:00
  studying,
• 35:00
  if
• 35:00
  you're
• 35:01
  wanting
• 35:01
  to
• 35:01
  study
• 35:01
  a
• 35:01
  STEM
• 35:02
  subject
• 35:02
  at
• 35:02
  university,
• 35:03
  do
• 35:03
  you
• 35:03
  think
• 35:03
  that
• 35:04
  it's
• 35:04
  important
• 35:04
  to
• 35:04
  have
• 35:04
  maths
• 35:05
  and
• 35:05
  further
• 35:05
  maths
• 35:06
  as
• 35:06
  a
• 35:06
  home
• 35:06
  educator?
• 35:07
  So
• 35:07
  further
• 35:08
  maths,
• 35:08
  right.
• 35:08
  Gives
• 35:09
  you
• 35:09
  an
• 35:09
  advantage,
• 35:10
  but
• 35:11
  for
• 35:11
  specific
• 35:12
  subjects
• 35:12
  I'd
• 35:13
  say,
• 35:13
  okay,
• 35:14
  so
• 35:15
  when
• 35:15
  you're.
• 35:15
  So
• 35:16
  I'm
• 35:16
  going
• 35:16
  to
• 35:16
  come
• 35:16
  back
• 35:16
  to
• 35:16
  economics
• 35:17
  for
• 35:17
  a
• 35:17
  minute.
• 35:17
  I
• 35:17
  know
• 35:17
  it's
• 35:17
  not
• 35:17
  the
• 35:18
  classic
• 35:18
  STEM
• 35:19
  subject,
• 35:19
  but
• 35:19
  economics
• 35:19
  is
• 35:20
  one
• 35:20
  of
• 35:20
  those
• 35:20
  subjects
• 35:20
  where,
• 35:21
  if
• 35:21
  you're
• 35:21
  applying
• 35:21
  to
• 35:22
  economics
• 35:22
  and
• 35:23
  computer
• 35:23
  science
• 35:23
  and
• 35:23
  Caroline,
• 35:24
  do
• 35:24
  jump
• 35:24
  in
• 35:25
  if
• 35:25
  I'm
• 35:25
  not
• 35:25
  correct
• 35:26
  on
• 35:26
  any
• 35:26
  of
• 35:26
  this,
• 35:27
  basically
• 35:28
  I
• 35:28
  would
• 35:28
  say
• 35:28
  do
• 35:28
  your
• 35:29
  research
• 35:29
  when
• 35:29
  it
• 35:30
  comes
• 35:30
  to
• 35:30
  these
• 35:30
  things.
• 35:30
  Okay.
• 35:31
  Because
• 35:31
  it
• 35:31
  is
• 35:31
  a
• 35:31
  bit
• 35:31
  nuanced.
• 35:32
  So
• 35:32
  if
• 35:33
  you're
• 35:33
  looking
• 35:33
  at
• 35:33
  a
• 35:34
  university
• 35:34
  where
• 35:34
  it
• 35:34
  says
• 35:35
  further
• 35:35
  maths
• 35:36
  is
• 35:36
  preferred,
• 35:37
  most
• 35:37
  students
• 35:38
  will
• 35:38
  look
• 35:38
  at
• 35:38
  that
• 35:38
  and
• 35:38
  say,
• 35:38
  oh,
• 35:39
  I
• 35:39
  don't
• 35:39
  really
• 35:39
  need
• 35:39
  to
• 35:40
  do
• 35:40
  it.
• 35:40
  Do
• 35:40
  I
• 35:40
  really
• 35:40
  need
• 35:41
  to
• 35:41
  bother?
• 35:41
  But
• 35:42
  then
• 35:42
  you
• 35:42
  really
• 35:42
  need
• 35:42
  to
• 35:42
  think,
• 35:42
  are
• 35:43
  you
• 35:43
  going
• 35:43
  to
• 35:43
  be
• 35:43
  one
• 35:43
  of
• 35:43
  those
• 35:44
  students
• 35:44
  who
• 35:44
  is
• 35:44
  at
• 35:45
  a
• 35:45
  disadvantage
• 35:46
  because
• 35:46
  you
• 35:46
  didn't
• 35:46
  do
• 35:47
  it
• 35:47
  and
• 35:47
  others
• 35:47
  did?
• 35:48
  So
• 35:48
  if
• 35:48
  you're
• 35:49
  applying
• 35:49
  to,
• 35:49
  say,
• 35:49
  an
• 35:50
  Imperial
• 35:50
  as
• 35:50
  an
• 35:50
  example
• 35:51
  or
• 35:51
  Oxbridge
• 35:51
  as
• 35:52
  an
• 35:52
  example,
• 35:52
  then
• 35:53
  if
• 35:53
  the
• 35:53
  universities
• 35:54
  are
• 35:54
  looking
• 35:54
  at
• 35:54
  a
• 35:54
  pile
• 35:55
  of
• 35:55
  students
• 35:55
  and
• 35:55
  they're
• 35:56
  so
• 35:56
  competitive
• 35:57
  and
• 35:57
  you
• 35:57
  don't
• 35:57
  have
• 35:58
  further
• 35:58
  Maths
• 35:58
  whereas
• 35:58
  somebody
• 35:59
  else
• 35:59
  does,
• 36:00
  then
• 36:01
  you're
• 36:01
  putting
• 36:01
  yourself
• 36:02
  on
• 36:02
  a
• 36:02
  bit
• 36:02
  of
• 36:02
  a
• 36:03
  disadvantage
• 36:03
  straight
• 36:04
  away.
• 36:04
  So
• 36:04
  if
• 36:04
  you're
• 36:05
  somebody
• 36:05
  who
• 36:05
  can,
• 36:05
  who's
• 36:06
  looking
• 36:06
  at
• 36:07
  that
• 36:07
  and
• 36:07
  it
• 36:07
  says
• 36:07
  preferred
• 36:08
  and
• 36:08
  you
• 36:09
  feel
• 36:09
  you
• 36:09
  can
• 36:09
  manage
• 36:10
  the
• 36:10
  four
• 36:10
  A
• 36:10
  levels
• 36:11
  or
• 36:11
  manage
• 36:11
  further
• 36:11
  maths
• 36:12
  and,
• 36:12
  you
• 36:12
  know,
• 36:12
  enjoy
• 36:13
  maths
• 36:13
  enough
• 36:13
  to
• 36:13
  put
• 36:14
  in
• 36:14
  that
• 36:14
  Time,
• 36:15
  then
• 36:15
  it
• 36:15
  definitely
• 36:16
  gives
• 36:16
  you
• 36:16
  a
• 36:16
  leg
• 36:17
  up.
• 36:17
  Definitely
• 36:17
  gives
• 36:17
  you
• 36:18
  an
• 36:18
  advantage.
• 36:19
  Yeah.
• 36:19
  So
• 36:19
  do
• 36:20
  your
• 36:20
  research.
• 36:20
  I
• 36:20
  think
• 36:20
  that's
• 36:21
  what
• 36:21
  I'd
• 36:21
  say
• 36:21
  because
• 36:21
  it
• 36:21
  is
• 36:22
  quite
• 36:22
  nuanced
• 36:22
  depending
• 36:23
  on
• 36:23
  the
• 36:23
  degree
• 36:23
  that
• 36:23
  you're
• 36:24
  looking
• 36:24
  at.
• 36:24
  I've
• 36:25
  even
• 36:25
  heard
• 36:25
  things
• 36:26
  like
• 36:26
  natural
• 36:26
  sciences
• 36:27
  At
• 36:27
  Cambridge
• 36:28
  you
• 36:28
  get
• 36:28
  a
• 36:28
  bit
• 36:28
  of
• 36:29
  a,
• 36:29
  you
• 36:29
  know,
• 36:29
  an
• 36:29
  advantage
• 36:30
  if
• 36:30
  you've
• 36:30
  got
• 36:30
  further
• 36:31
  math.
• 36:31
  It
• 36:31
  just
• 36:32
  gives
• 36:32
  universities
• 36:33
  a
• 36:33
  bit
• 36:33
  of
• 36:33
  a
• 36:33
  picture
• 36:34
  of
• 36:34
  you
• 36:34
  as
• 36:34
  a
• 36:34
  more
• 36:34
  academic
• 36:35
  student.
• 36:36
  I'd
• 36:36
  also
• 36:36
  say
• 36:36
  that
• 36:37
  further
• 36:37
  maths
• 36:38
  actually
• 36:38
  gives
• 36:38
  you
• 36:39
  all
• 36:39
  the
• 36:39
  maths
• 36:40
  you
• 36:40
  need
• 36:40
  to
• 36:40
  know
• 36:40
  for
• 36:40
  a
• 36:41
  lot
• 36:41
  of
• 36:41
  these
• 36:42
  maths
• 36:42
  related
• 36:43
  degrees.
• 36:43
  Apart
• 36:43
  from
• 36:43
  a
• 36:44
  maths
• 36:44
  degree.
• 36:44
  Obviously
• 36:44
  you're
• 36:45
  going
• 36:45
  to
• 36:45
  learn
• 36:45
  a
• 36:45
  lot
• 36:45
  harder
• 36:46
  maths
• 36:46
  but
• 36:47
  if
• 36:47
  you're
• 36:47
  doing
• 36:47
  engineering,
• 36:48
  if
• 36:48
  you're
• 36:48
  doing
• 36:49
  something
• 36:49
  like
• 36:49
  economics,
• 36:50
  if
• 36:50
  you've
• 36:50
  done
• 36:51
  further
• 36:51
  maths,
• 36:52
  actually
• 36:52
  you've
• 36:53
  covered
• 36:53
  the
• 36:53
  basics
• 36:54
  of
• 36:54
  a
• 36:54
  lot
• 36:54
  of
• 36:54
  what
• 36:54
  you're
• 36:54
  going
• 36:55
  to
• 36:55
  learn
• 36:55
  at
• 36:55
  university
• 36:55
  and
• 36:56
  it's
• 36:56
  just
• 36:56
  going
• 36:56
  to
• 36:56
  make
• 36:56
  those,
• 36:57
  especially
• 36:57
  those
• 36:58
  first
• 36:58
  few
• 36:58
  years
• 36:58
  at
• 36:58
  university
• 36:59
  much
• 36:59
  easier.
• 37:00
  Easier.
• 37:01
  That's
• 37:01
  what
• 37:01
  my
• 37:01
  son
• 37:02
  has
• 37:02
  noticed.
• 37:02
  He's
• 37:03
  only
• 37:03
  just
• 37:03
  started
• 37:03
  his
• 37:04
  engineering
• 37:04
  degree,
• 37:05
  but
• 37:05
  he's
• 37:05
  noticed
• 37:05
  that
• 37:06
  just
• 37:06
  doing
• 37:06
  the
• 37:06
  maths
• 37:07
  A
• 37:07
  level
• 37:07
  itself,
• 37:07
  the
• 37:08
  engineering
• 37:08
  part
• 37:08
  of
• 37:08
  the
• 37:09
  mass
• 37:09
  A
• 37:09
  level
• 37:09
  was
• 37:09
  always
• 37:10
  the
• 37:10
  easiest.
• 37:10
  Engineering
• 37:11
  mass
• 37:11
  was
• 37:11
  always
• 37:11
  the
• 37:12
  easiest
• 37:12
  maths
• 37:12
  for
• 37:12
  him.
• 37:12
  And
• 37:13
  so
• 37:13
  he's
• 37:13
  actually
• 37:13
  finding
• 37:14
  compared
• 37:14
  to
• 37:14
  like
• 37:14
  pure
• 37:14
  math
• 37:15
  and
• 37:15
  stuff,
• 37:15
  the
• 37:15
  engineering
• 37:16
  mass
• 37:16
  is
• 37:16
  like
• 37:16
  really
• 37:17
  quite
• 37:17
  nice.
• 37:17
  Nice
• 37:17
  and
• 37:18
  easy.
• 37:18
  So
• 37:18
  when
• 37:19
  we
• 37:19
  talk
• 37:19
  then
• 37:19
  about
• 37:20
  the
• 37:20
  E
• 37:20
  and
• 37:21
  the
• 37:21
  T
• 37:21
  bit
• 37:22
  of
• 37:22
  stem
• 37:23
  as
• 37:23
  a
• 37:23
  home
• 37:24
  educator,
• 37:24
  is
• 37:25
  there
• 37:25
  such
• 37:25
  a
• 37:25
  thing
• 37:25
  as
• 37:26
  an
• 37:26
  engineering
• 37:27
  A
• 37:27
  level?
• 37:27
  Is
• 37:27
  there
• 37:28
  such
• 37:28
  a
• 37:28
  thing
• 37:28
  as
• 37:28
  a
• 37:29
  standard
• 37:30
  like
• 37:30
  technology
• 37:31
  A
• 37:31
  level?
• 37:31
  And
• 37:32
  can
• 37:32
  you
• 37:32
  do
• 37:32
  those
• 37:33
  as
• 37:33
  a
• 37:33
  home
• 37:34
  educator?
• 37:35
  Well
• 37:35
  that's
• 37:35
  interesting.
• 37:37
  Farah,
• 37:37
  can
• 37:38
  you
• 37:38
  just
• 37:38
  Google
• 37:38
  that?
• 37:41
  Put
• 37:41
  it
• 37:41
  into
• 37:41
  ChatGPT?
• 37:42
  We're
• 37:42
  all
• 37:42
  about
• 37:42
  AI,
• 37:43
  right?
• 37:44
  There's
• 37:44
  definitely
• 37:44
  no
• 37:45
  engineering
• 37:45
  A
• 37:45
  level.
• 37:47
  There
• 37:47
  isn't
• 37:47
  an
• 37:48
  engineering
• 37:48
  A
• 37:48
  level
• 37:48
  Digital.
• 37:49
  I
• 37:49
  thought
• 37:49
  there
• 37:49
  was.
• 37:52
  I
• 37:52
  should
• 37:52
  be
• 37:52
  googling
• 37:53
  it
• 37:53
  then.
• 37:53
  I,
• 37:54
  I
• 37:54
  would
• 37:54
  say
• 37:54
  it's
• 37:54
  one
• 37:55
  of
• 37:55
  those
• 37:55
  that
• 37:55
  home
• 37:55
  educators
• 37:56
  can't
• 37:56
  take.
• 37:56
  In
• 37:56
  any
• 37:57
  case,
• 37:57
  even
• 37:57
  if
• 37:57
  it
• 37:57
  does
• 37:57
  exist,
• 37:58
  it's
• 37:58
  like
• 37:58
  A
• 37:59
  level
• 37:59
  geology.
• 37:59
  Let
• 37:59
  me
• 38:00
  just
• 38:00
  see.
• 38:01
  Can
• 38:01
  I
• 38:01
  speak
• 38:01
  to
• 38:02
  one
• 38:02
  the
• 38:02
  technology
• 38:03
  piece
• 38:03
  for
• 38:03
  a
• 38:03
  second?
• 38:04
  So
• 38:04
  what
• 38:04
  does
• 38:05
  exist
• 38:05
  that
• 38:05
  I
• 38:06
  do
• 38:06
  know
• 38:06
  of
• 38:06
  and
• 38:06
  I
• 38:06
  know
• 38:06
  a
• 38:06
  lot
• 38:07
  of
• 38:07
  schools
• 38:07
  do
• 38:07
  this
• 38:07
  as
• 38:08
  well
• 38:08
  is
• 38:09
  is
• 38:09
  product
• 38:10
  design
• 38:11
  or
• 38:11
  design
• 38:12
  and
• 38:12
  technology
• 38:12
  as
• 38:12
  it's
• 38:13
  called
• 38:13
  in
• 38:13
  some
• 38:14
  schools.
• 38:14
  And
• 38:15
  that
• 38:15
  is
• 38:16
  a
• 38:16
  really
• 38:17
  interesting
• 38:17
  one
• 38:17
  because
• 38:18
  again
• 38:18
  I
• 38:18
  was
• 38:18
  going
• 38:19
  to
• 38:19
  speak
• 38:19
  to
• 38:19
  that
• 38:19
  interdisciplinarity.
• 38:20
  It's
• 38:20
  about
• 38:21
  designing
• 38:22
  solutions
• 38:23
  effectively.
• 38:24
  Right.
• 38:24
  Which
• 38:25
  can
• 38:25
  lend
• 38:26
  itself
• 38:26
  to
• 38:26
  engineering
• 38:27
  because
• 38:27
  engineering
• 38:28
  is
• 38:28
  about
• 38:29
  designing
• 38:29
  solutions
• 38:30
  as
• 38:30
  well
• 38:30
  and
• 38:30
  product
• 38:30
  design.
• 38:31
  Students
• 38:31
  will
• 38:31
  often
• 38:32
  look
• 38:33
  at
• 38:33
  combining
• 38:34
  science,
• 38:34
  technology,
• 38:34
  et
• 38:35
  cetera
• 38:35
  to
• 38:35
  come
• 38:35
  up
• 38:35
  with
• 38:36
  their,
• 38:37
  their
• 38:37
  solution.
• 38:37
  So
• 38:38
  that
• 38:38
  sort
• 38:39
  of
• 38:39
  is
• 38:39
  the
• 38:39
  closest
• 38:40
  thing
• 38:40
  I
• 38:40
  can
• 38:40
  think
• 38:40
  of
• 38:41
  to
• 38:41
  an
• 38:41
  engineering
• 38:42
  A
• 38:42
  level.
• 38:43
  I
• 38:43
  don't,
• 38:43
  I
• 38:44
  can't
• 38:44
  speak
• 38:44
  to
• 38:44
  how
• 38:45
  you
• 38:45
  have
• 38:45
  more
• 38:45
  experience,
• 38:45
  Caroline,
• 38:46
  with
• 38:46
  home
• 38:46
  education
• 38:47
  and
• 38:47
  how
• 38:47
  well
• 38:48
  that
• 38:48
  fits
• 38:48
  in
• 38:48
  with
• 38:48
  home
• 38:49
  education,
• 38:49
  because
• 38:49
  I
• 38:49
  know,
• 38:49
  I
• 38:50
  know
• 38:50
  it
• 38:50
  requires
• 38:50
  things
• 38:50
  like
• 38:51
  3D
• 38:51
  printers
• 38:51
  and
• 38:52
  CAD
• 38:52
  and
• 38:52
  it's
• 38:53
  quite
• 38:53
  specific
• 38:53
  equipment
• 38:54
  from
• 38:54
  what
• 38:54
  I've
• 38:54
  seen
• 38:55
  at
• 38:55
  schools.
• 38:56
  My
• 38:56
  guess
• 38:56
  is
• 38:56
  that
• 38:57
  designer
• 38:58
  technology
• 38:58
  wouldn't
• 38:58
  be
• 38:59
  something
• 38:59
  you
• 38:59
  could
• 39:00
  do
• 39:00
  as
• 39:00
  a
• 39:00
  home
• 39:00
  educated
• 39:01
  child
• 39:01
  at
• 39:02
  A
• 39:02
  level
• 39:02
  would
• 39:02
  be
• 39:02
  my
• 39:03
  guess.
• 39:03
  What
• 39:03
  do
• 39:03
  you
• 39:03
  think,
• 39:03
  Caroline?
• 39:04
  Yeah,
• 39:04
  no,
• 39:05
  I,
• 39:05
  I,
• 39:05
  and
• 39:05
  there,
• 39:05
  there
• 39:06
  is
• 39:06
  no
• 39:06
  A
• 39:06
  level
• 39:06
  engineering.
• 39:07
  I,
• 39:07
  I
• 39:07
  did
• 39:08
  look
• 39:08
  it
• 39:08
  up,
• 39:08
  so
• 39:09
  I,
• 39:09
  I
• 39:09
  did
• 39:10
  want
• 39:10
  to,
• 39:10
  I've
• 39:10
  just
• 39:11
  discovered
• 39:11
  recently
• 39:12
  these
• 39:12
  two,
• 39:13
  they're
• 39:13
  called
• 39:14
  institutes,
• 39:14
  I
• 39:14
  guess.
• 39:15
  So
• 39:15
  there's
• 39:15
  these
• 39:16
  two
• 39:16
  institutes.
• 39:17
  One's
• 39:17
  the
• 39:17
  Dyson.
• 39:18
  What's
• 39:18
  it
• 39:18
  called?
• 39:18
  Let
• 39:19
  me
• 39:19
  get
• 39:19
  the
• 39:19
  name
• 39:19
  right.
• 39:20
  The
• 39:20
  Dyson
• 39:21
  Institute
• 39:21
  of
• 39:22
  Engineering.
• 39:22
  Is
• 39:23
  that
• 39:23
  right?
• 39:23
  And
• 39:23
  the
• 39:23
  New
• 39:24
  Model
• 39:24
  Institute
• 39:24
  for
• 39:25
  Technology
• 39:25
  and
• 39:25
  Engineering.
• 39:26
  So
• 39:26
  they're
• 39:26
  two
• 39:26
  new
• 39:27
  universities
• 39:27
  where
• 39:28
  you
• 39:28
  can
• 39:28
  do
• 39:28
  bachelor's
• 39:29
  and
• 39:29
  master's
• 39:30
  degrees
• 39:31
  which
• 39:31
  are
• 39:31
  engineering
• 39:32
  related,
• 39:33
  but
• 39:33
  more
• 39:34
  like
• 39:34
  practical
• 39:35
  rather
• 39:35
  than
• 39:35
  the
• 39:36
  theory.
• 39:36
  So
• 39:37
  I
• 39:37
  know
• 39:37
  the
• 39:37
  New
• 39:37
  Model
• 39:37
  Institute
• 39:39
  of
• 39:39
  Technology
• 39:40
  and
• 39:40
  Engineering.
• 39:40
  You
• 39:41
  need
• 39:41
  BBC
• 39:43
  A
• 39:43
  level.
• 39:43
  So
• 39:44
  where
• 39:44
  is
• 39:44
  it
• 39:44
  geographically?
• 39:45
  Is
• 39:45
  it
• 39:45
  Hereford?
• 39:46
  Is
• 39:46
  it
• 39:47
  Hereford?
• 39:47
  It
• 39:47
  might
• 39:48
  be.
• 39:48
  And
• 39:49
  then
• 39:49
  I
• 39:49
  think
• 39:49
  Dyson.
• 39:50
  Is
• 39:50
  that
• 39:50
  in
• 39:50
  Reading?
• 39:51
  Is
• 39:51
  that
• 39:51
  where
• 39:51
  they
• 39:51
  are?
• 39:52
  I
• 39:52
  think
• 39:52
  they
• 39:52
  are
• 39:52
  in
• 39:53
  the
• 39:53
  south.
• 39:54
  And
• 39:54
  for
• 39:54
  the
• 39:55
  Dyson
• 39:55
  degree
• 39:56
  you
• 39:56
  need
• 39:56
  aab.
• 39:57
  But
• 39:57
  again,
• 39:57
  you
• 39:58
  get
• 39:58
  the
• 39:58
  chance
• 39:58
  to
• 39:59
  work
• 40:00
  with
• 40:00
  Dyson
• 40:00
  and
• 40:01
  have
• 40:01
  that
• 40:01
  amazing
• 40:02
  company
• 40:03
  experience
• 40:04
  with
• 40:04
  that
• 40:04
  amazing
• 40:04
  company
• 40:05
  as
• 40:05
  well.
• 40:05
  So
• 40:06
  they're
• 40:07
  an
• 40:07
  interesting
• 40:07
  practical
• 40:08
  model
• 40:08
  for
• 40:08
  people
• 40:09
  who
• 40:09
  do
• 40:09
  want
• 40:10
  practical
• 40:10
  degrees.
• 40:12
  So
• 40:12
  something
• 40:13
  that's
• 40:14
  going
• 40:14
  to
• 40:14
  look
• 40:14
  great
• 40:14
  on
• 40:14
  your
• 40:15
  CV
• 40:15
  in
• 40:15
  terms
• 40:15
  of
• 40:16
  looking
• 40:16
  for
• 40:16
  jobs
• 40:16
  as
• 40:16
  well.
• 40:17
  So
• 40:17
  those
• 40:17
  are
• 40:17
  quite,
• 40:18
  I
• 40:18
  hadn't
• 40:18
  heard
• 40:19
  of
• 40:19
  them
• 40:19
  before.
• 40:20
  That
• 40:20
  leads
• 40:20
  me
• 40:20
  to
• 40:21
  my
• 40:21
  last
• 40:21
  question.
• 40:22
  Well,
• 40:22
  my
• 40:22
  penultimate
• 40:23
  question
• 40:23
  actually,
• 40:24
  which
• 40:24
  is
• 40:24
  that,
• 40:25
  are
• 40:25
  there
• 40:25
  any
• 40:25
  particular
• 40:26
  universities
• 40:26
  you
• 40:27
  would
• 40:27
  recommend
• 40:28
  for
• 40:28
  particular
• 40:29
  STEM
• 40:29
  subjects?
• 40:30
  And
• 40:30
  I'd
• 40:30
  like
• 40:30
  you
• 40:31
  here
• 40:31
  to.
• 40:31
  And
• 40:32
  I
• 40:32
  know
• 40:32
  you
• 40:32
  both
• 40:32
  went
• 40:33
  to
• 40:33
  very
• 40:33
  good
• 40:33
  universities
• 40:34
  in
• 40:34
  inverted
• 40:34
  commerce,
• 40:35
  right?
• 40:35
  But
• 40:35
  are
• 40:36
  there,
• 40:36
  are
• 40:36
  there
• 40:36
  like
• 40:37
  slightly
• 40:37
  wackier
• 40:37
  universities?
• 40:38
  I
• 40:38
  know
• 40:38
  that.
• 40:39
  For
• 40:39
  example,
• 40:39
  I'll
• 40:39
  give
• 40:39
  you
• 40:39
  an
• 40:39
  example.
• 40:40
  Bangor
• 40:41
  is
• 40:41
  really
• 40:41
  good
• 40:42
  for
• 40:42
  marine
• 40:42
  science.
• 40:43
  Now
• 40:43
  who'd
• 40:43
  know,
• 40:43
  right?
• 40:44
  Like,
• 40:44
  that's
• 40:44
  crazy.
• 40:44
  And
• 40:45
  yet
• 40:45
  it
• 40:45
  is,
• 40:45
  it's
• 40:45
  like
• 40:46
  really,
• 40:46
  really
• 40:46
  good
• 40:46
  for
• 40:46
  marine
• 40:47
  science.
• 40:47
  And,
• 40:47
  and
• 40:48
  I
• 40:48
  know
• 40:48
  that
• 40:48
  Lampeter,
• 40:49
  when
• 40:49
  I
• 40:49
  was,
• 40:49
  when
• 40:50
  I
• 40:50
  was
• 40:50
  looking
• 40:50
  at
• 40:50
  doing
• 40:50
  theology,
• 40:51
  Lampeter
• 40:52
  in
• 40:52
  Wales
• 40:53
  was
• 40:53
  really,
• 40:53
  really
• 40:53
  good
• 40:53
  for
• 40:53
  theology.
• 40:54
  It
• 40:54
  was
• 40:54
  our
• 40:54
  best
• 40:54
  in
• 40:54
  the
• 40:55
  country.
• 40:55
  And
• 40:55
  it's
• 40:55
  like,
• 40:55
  wow,
• 40:55
  that's
• 40:56
  crazy.
• 40:56
  So
• 40:56
  are
• 40:57
  there
• 40:57
  any,
• 40:57
  any
• 40:58
  universities
• 40:58
  that
• 40:58
  maybe
• 40:59
  people
• 41:00
  aren't
• 41:00
  aware
• 41:00
  of
• 41:01
  that
• 41:01
  you
• 41:01
  think
• 41:01
  are
• 41:01
  particularly
• 41:02
  good
• 41:02
  for
• 41:02
  certain
• 41:03
  STEM
• 41:03
  subjects?
• 41:04
  And
• 41:04
  of
• 41:04
  course,
• 41:04
  do
• 41:04
  tell
• 41:05
  us
• 41:05
  the
• 41:05
  ones
• 41:06
  that
• 41:06
  are
• 41:06
  the
• 41:06
  best,
• 41:07
  you
• 41:07
  know,
• 41:07
  sort
• 41:08
  of
• 41:08
  in
• 41:08
  the
• 41:08
  league
• 41:08
  tables
• 41:09
  and
• 41:09
  stuff
• 41:09
  for
• 41:09
  different
• 41:09
  STEM
• 41:10
  subjects.
• 41:10
  So
• 41:11
  Loughborough
• 41:11
  is
• 41:11
  one
• 41:12
  that
• 41:12
  I
• 41:12
  came
• 41:12
  across
• 41:12
  because
• 41:13
  my
• 41:13
  son
• 41:13
  was
• 41:13
  looking
• 41:13
  at
• 41:14
  engineering
• 41:14
  and
• 41:15
  Loughborough's
• 41:16
  got
• 41:16
  amazing
• 41:17
  industry
• 41:17
  links
• 41:18
  and
• 41:18
  it's
• 41:18
  one
• 41:18
  that
• 41:18
  I
• 41:18
  hadn't
• 41:19
  thought
• 41:19
  of.
• 41:19
  It's
• 41:19
  not
• 41:19
  one
• 41:20
  of
• 41:20
  those
• 41:20
  conventional
• 41:20
  Russell
• 41:21
  Group
• 41:21
  kind
• 41:21
  of
• 41:21
  unis
• 41:22
  that
• 41:22
  you
• 41:22
  think
• 41:22
  of,
• 41:23
  but
• 41:23
  actually,
• 41:23
  I
• 41:24
  mean,
• 41:24
  going
• 41:24
  to
• 41:24
  their
• 41:24
  open
• 41:24
  days
• 41:25
  and
• 41:25
  sort
• 41:25
  of
• 41:25
  exploring.
• 41:26
  They
• 41:27
  have
• 41:27
  a
• 41:28
  lot
• 41:28
  of
• 41:28
  engineering
• 41:28
  degrees,
• 41:29
  they
• 41:30
  have
• 41:30
  a
• 41:30
  lot
• 41:30
  of
• 41:30
  links
• 41:30
  with
• 41:31
  industry.
• 41:31
  So
• 41:31
  Caroline
• 41:32
  mentioned
• 41:32
  Formula
• 41:32
  One.
• 41:33
  So
• 41:33
  I
• 41:33
  think
• 41:33
  automotive
• 41:34
  engineering
• 41:34
  is
• 41:34
  a
• 41:34
  particular
• 41:35
  one
• 41:35
  that
• 41:35
  they
• 41:35
  have
• 41:36
  links
• 41:36
  with
• 41:36
  Formula
• 41:37
  One.
• 41:37
  And
• 41:37
  what
• 41:38
  they
• 41:38
  pride
• 41:38
  themselves
• 41:39
  at
• 41:40
  is
• 41:40
  sort
• 41:40
  of
• 41:40
  that
• 41:41
  you're
• 41:41
  in
• 41:41
  industry,
• 41:41
  they
• 41:42
  will
• 41:42
  link
• 41:42
  you
• 41:42
  up
• 41:42
  with,
• 41:42
  you
• 41:43
  know,
• 41:43
  really
• 41:43
  good
• 41:43
  work
• 41:44
  experiences,
• 41:44
  which
• 41:45
  is
• 41:45
  a
• 41:45
  really
• 41:46
  important
• 41:46
  thing
• 41:46
  to
• 41:46
  have
• 41:47
  these
• 41:47
  days
• 41:47
  and
• 41:47
  be
• 41:47
  employable
• 41:48
  at
• 41:48
  the
• 41:48
  end
• 41:48
  of
• 41:48
  the
• 41:48
  degree.
• 41:49
  So
• 41:49
  that's
• 41:50
  definitely
• 41:50
  one
• 41:50
  unconventional
• 41:51
  one
• 41:51
  that
• 41:51
  stuck
• 41:52
  out
• 41:52
  to
• 41:52
  me
• 41:52
  that
• 41:52
  isn't
• 41:53
  perhaps
• 41:53
  in
• 41:54
  the
• 41:54
  top
• 41:54
  four
• 41:54
  or
• 41:54
  five
• 41:55
  that
• 41:55
  people
• 41:55
  think
• 41:55
  of
• 41:56
  with
• 41:56
  engineering.
• 41:56
  Perhaps,
• 41:57
  Carolyn,
• 41:57
  you
• 41:57
  can
• 41:57
  speak
• 41:58
  to
• 41:58
  the
• 41:58
  top
• 41:58
  ones.
• 41:58
  I
• 41:59
  know.
• 42:00
  Well,
• 42:00
  yeah,
• 42:01
  obviously
• 42:01
  Oxbridge,
• 42:02
  interestingly,
• 42:04
  Oxford
• 42:04
  for
• 42:04
  engineering
• 42:05
  is
• 42:05
  a
• 42:05
  general
• 42:05
  engineering
• 42:06
  degree,
• 42:06
  whereas
• 42:07
  at
• 42:07
  Cambridge
• 42:07
  you
• 42:07
  actually
• 42:08
  do
• 42:08
  pick
• 42:09
  the
• 42:09
  specific
• 42:10
  branch
• 42:10
  of
• 42:10
  engineering
• 42:11
  you
• 42:11
  want
• 42:11
  to
• 42:11
  specialise
• 42:12
  in.
• 42:12
  So
• 42:13
  pure
• 42:13
  engineers
• 42:14
  would
• 42:14
  say,
• 42:14
  oh
• 42:14
  yeah,
• 42:14
  the
• 42:14
  Oxford
• 42:15
  one
• 42:15
  is
• 42:15
  not
• 42:15
  a
• 42:15
  proper
• 42:16
  engineering.
• 42:17
  I
• 42:17
  would
• 42:17
  never
• 42:17
  think
• 42:17
  of
• 42:18
  Oxbridge
• 42:18
  for
• 42:19
  engineering.
• 42:19
  I
• 42:19
  always
• 42:20
  assumed
• 42:20
  you
• 42:20
  would
• 42:21
  need
• 42:21
  something
• 42:21
  that
• 42:21
  was
• 42:21
  a
• 42:21
  little
• 42:22
  bit
• 42:22
  more,
• 42:23
  you
• 42:24
  know,
• 42:25
  modern.
• 42:28
  Okay.
• 42:30
  Surely
• 42:30
  there
• 42:30
  must
• 42:31
  be
• 42:31
  some
• 42:31
  of
• 42:32
  the
• 42:32
  more
• 42:32
  recent,
• 42:33
  the,
• 42:34
  the
• 42:34
  universities
• 42:34
  that
• 42:35
  were
• 42:35
  technical
• 42:36
  colleges
• 42:36
  and,
• 42:36
  and,
• 42:37
  and
• 42:37
  those
• 42:38
  kind
• 42:38
  of
• 42:38
  things,
• 42:39
  you
• 42:39
  know,
• 42:40
  polys
• 42:40
  when
• 42:41
  I
• 42:41
  was
• 42:41
  growing
• 42:41
  up.
• 42:42
  Surely
• 42:42
  they
• 42:42
  are
• 42:42
  better
• 42:43
  for
• 42:43
  engineering
• 42:43
  though,
• 42:43
  and
• 42:44
  technology.
• 42:45
  Well,
• 42:45
  the
• 42:45
  standard
• 42:45
  one
• 42:45
  is
• 42:46
  Imperial,
• 42:47
  that's
• 42:48
  the,
• 42:48
  the
• 42:48
  best.
• 42:49
  And,
• 42:50
  but
• 42:50
  also
• 42:50
  a
• 42:51
  Coventry
• 42:51
  University.
• 42:52
  Interestingly,
• 42:53
  I
• 42:53
  came
• 42:54
  across
• 42:54
  them
• 42:54
  at
• 42:55
  one
• 42:55
  of
• 42:55
  these
• 42:55
  university.
• 42:57
  Fairs
• 42:58
  where
• 42:58
  the
• 42:58
  universities
• 42:58
  come
• 42:59
  and
• 42:59
  gather
• 42:59
  and
• 42:59
  promote.
• 43:00
  So
• 43:01
  they've
• 43:01
  built
• 43:01
  new
• 43:02
  engineering
• 43:02
  departments,
• 43:03
  they've
• 43:03
  got
• 43:04
  all
• 43:04
  these
• 43:04
  big
• 43:05
  wind
• 43:05
  tunnels
• 43:05
  and
• 43:06
  all
• 43:06
  the
• 43:06
  cool
• 43:07
  things
• 43:08
  to
• 43:08
  do,
• 43:08
  all
• 43:08
  the
• 43:08
  big
• 43:09
  experiments
• 43:09
  with.
• 43:10
  So
• 43:10
  that,
• 43:10
  that
• 43:10
  was
• 43:10
  actually
• 43:11
  an
• 43:11
  interesting
• 43:11
  one
• 43:12
  that
• 43:12
  I
• 43:12
  heard
• 43:12
  about.
• 43:13
  I
• 43:13
  have
• 43:13
  to
• 43:13
  plug
• 43:13
  UCL
• 43:14
  here
• 43:14
  because
• 43:14
  that's
• 43:14
  where
• 43:15
  my
• 43:15
  daughter
• 43:15
  goes.
• 43:15
  So
• 43:15
  UCL
• 43:16
  has
• 43:16
  recently
• 43:17
  built
• 43:17
  a
• 43:17
  UCL
• 43:18
  East
• 43:18
  Campus,
• 43:19
  which
• 43:19
  is,
• 43:20
  again,
• 43:21
  they
• 43:21
  have
• 43:21
  a
• 43:21
  lot
• 43:22
  of
• 43:22
  these
• 43:22
  labs
• 43:22
  and,
• 43:23
  you
• 43:23
  know,
• 43:23
  sort
• 43:23
  of
• 43:24
  hands
• 43:24
  on
• 43:24
  engineering.
• 43:25
  So
• 43:25
  I
• 43:25
  know
• 43:25
  architectural
• 43:26
  engineering
• 43:27
  is
• 43:27
  one
• 43:27
  that
• 43:28
  is
• 43:28
  definitely
• 43:29
  based
• 43:29
  on
• 43:29
  the
• 43:29
  UCL
• 43:30
  East
• 43:30
  Campus
• 43:30
  and
• 43:30
  there
• 43:31
  are
• 43:31
  probably
• 43:31
  quite
• 43:31
  a
• 43:31
  few
• 43:31
  other
• 43:32
  engineering
• 43:32
  Degrees
• 43:33
  that's
• 43:33
  definitely
• 43:33
  worth
• 43:34
  looking
• 43:34
  at
• 43:34
  because
• 43:35
  again,
• 43:35
  this
• 43:35
  is
• 43:35
  about
• 43:36
  getting
• 43:36
  disadvantaged
• 43:37
  students
• 43:37
  who
• 43:37
  may
• 43:38
  not
• 43:38
  have
• 43:38
  access
• 43:39
  to
• 43:39
  access
• 43:39
  into
• 43:39
  stem
• 43:40
  and
• 43:40
  they've
• 43:40
  decided
• 43:41
  to
• 43:41
  target
• 43:41
  the
• 43:42
  the
• 43:42
  east
• 43:42
  side
• 43:42
  of
• 43:43
  London
• 43:43
  with
• 43:43
  this
• 43:44
  and
• 43:44
  sort
• 43:44
  of
• 43:44
  give
• 43:44
  that
• 43:45
  accessibility
• 43:45
  to
• 43:46
  that
• 43:46
  with
• 43:46
  the
• 43:46
  campus
• 43:46
  there.
• 43:47
  And
• 43:47
  it's
• 43:47
  purpose
• 43:48
  built,
• 43:48
  that
• 43:48
  campus.
• 43:49
  So
• 43:49
  definitely
• 43:50
  one
• 43:50
  to
• 43:50
  explore
• 43:51
  for
• 43:51
  MADS
• 43:52
  related
• 43:52
  ones.
• 43:53
  I'd
• 43:53
  also
• 43:53
  say
• 43:53
  Warwick
• 43:54
  and
• 43:54
  Bristol.
• 43:55
  Bristol
• 43:56
  deserves
• 43:56
  a
• 43:56
  mention
• 43:57
  I
• 43:57
  think
• 43:57
  here
• 43:57
  because
• 43:58
  Bristol
• 43:58
  is
• 43:58
  another
• 43:59
  one
• 43:59
  that
• 43:59
  has
• 43:59
  quite
• 44:00
  a
• 44:00
  lot
• 44:00
  of
• 44:01
  good
• 44:01
  engineering
• 44:01
  degrees
• 44:02
  that
• 44:02
  you
• 44:02
  should
• 44:02
  look
• 44:02
  at
• 44:02
  if
• 44:02
  we're
• 44:03
  talking
• 44:03
  specifically
• 44:03
  about
• 44:04
  engineering.
• 44:04
  And
• 44:05
  I
• 44:05
  know
• 44:05
  Warwick
• 44:05
  has
• 44:06
  things
• 44:06
  like
• 44:06
  unusual
• 44:07
  degrees
• 44:07
  like
• 44:08
  engineering,
• 44:09
  business,
• 44:09
  management,
• 44:10
  things
• 44:10
  like
• 44:11
  that,
• 44:11
  which
• 44:11
  is
• 44:12
  worth
• 44:12
  looking
• 44:12
  at
• 44:12
  again
• 44:13
  if
• 44:13
  you're
• 44:13
  thinking
• 44:13
  about
• 44:13
  combining
• 44:14
  a
• 44:14
  few
• 44:14
  subjects
• 44:14
  and
• 44:15
  having
• 44:15
  skills
• 44:15
  in
• 44:15
  management
• 44:16
  as
• 44:16
  well
• 44:16
  as
• 44:16
  engineering
• 44:17
  when
• 44:17
  you
• 44:17
  graduate.
• 44:18
  What
• 44:18
  about
• 44:18
  maths
• 44:19
  then?
• 44:19
  Top
• 44:19
  unis
• 44:20
  for
• 44:20
  maths?
• 44:22
  Well,
• 44:22
  you've
• 44:22
  still
• 44:22
  got
• 44:23
  your
• 44:23
  Oxford,
• 44:23
  Cambridge,
• 44:24
  Imperial.
• 44:24
  Warwick
• 44:25
  is
• 44:25
  high
• 44:25
  up
• 44:25
  there
• 44:26
  for
• 44:26
  maths
• 44:26
  as
• 44:27
  well.
• 44:27
  Those
• 44:27
  are
• 44:28
  the
• 44:28
  four
• 44:28
  that
• 44:28
  come
• 44:28
  to
• 44:29
  mind
• 44:29
  immediately.
• 44:30
  Are
• 44:30
  there
• 44:30
  any
• 44:31
  Scottish
• 44:31
  universities
• 44:32
  or
• 44:32
  Irish
• 44:33
  universities
• 44:33
  for
• 44:33
  example,
• 44:34
  or
• 44:34
  Welsh
• 44:35
  universities
• 44:35
  that
• 44:35
  are
• 44:36
  particularly
• 44:36
  good
• 44:36
  for
• 44:37
  STEM
• 44:37
  subjects?
• 44:38
  Yeah,
• 44:39
  I
• 44:39
  think
• 44:40
  Edinburgh
• 44:40
  is
• 44:40
  excellent
• 44:41
  across
• 44:41
  the
• 44:42
  board.
• 44:42
  And
• 44:42
  with
• 44:43
  the
• 44:43
  Scottish
• 44:43
  degrees
• 44:44
  you're
• 44:45
  encouraged
• 44:45
  to
• 44:45
  take
• 44:46
  courses
• 44:46
  outside
• 44:47
  of
• 44:47
  your
• 44:48
  major,
• 44:48
  as
• 44:49
  they
• 44:49
  say.
• 44:49
  So
• 44:50
  you
• 44:50
  could
• 44:50
  do
• 44:51
  an
• 44:51
  engineering
• 44:52
  degree
• 44:52
  and
• 44:52
  actually
• 44:52
  take
• 44:53
  history
• 44:53
  classes
• 44:53
  and
• 44:54
  your
• 44:54
  history
• 44:54
  classes
• 44:55
  actually
• 44:55
  count
• 44:55
  towards
• 44:56
  your
• 44:56
  degree.
• 44:57
  So
• 44:58
  even
• 44:58
  at
• 44:59
  Imperial,
• 44:59
  my
• 44:59
  son
• 44:59
  studied
• 45:00
  Mandarin
• 45:00
  for
• 45:01
  three
• 45:01
  years
• 45:01
  I
• 45:02
  think
• 45:02
  on
• 45:02
  the
• 45:03
  side
• 45:03
  and
• 45:03
  is
• 45:03
  actually
• 45:04
  intermediate
• 45:04
  level
• 45:04
  in
• 45:05
  Mandarin
• 45:05
  and
• 45:05
  went
• 45:05
  to
• 45:05
  China
• 45:06
  and
• 45:06
  actually
• 45:06
  used
• 45:07
  it.
• 45:07
  So
• 45:08
  I
• 45:08
  think
• 45:08
  a
• 45:08
  lot
• 45:08
  of
• 45:08
  these
• 45:09
  universities,
• 45:09
  you
• 45:10
  know,
• 45:10
  you
• 45:10
  may
• 45:10
  think,
• 45:10
  oh
• 45:11
  yes,
• 45:11
  it's
• 45:11
  just
• 45:11
  nerdy
• 45:12
  and
• 45:12
  you
• 45:12
  could
• 45:12
  just
• 45:12
  do
• 45:13
  one
• 45:13
  thing.
• 45:13
  But
• 45:13
  I
• 45:13
  think
• 45:13
  they
• 45:14
  realize
• 45:14
  that
• 45:15
  actually
• 45:15
  broadening
• 45:16
  the
• 45:16
  skills
• 45:16
  of
• 45:17
  their
• 45:17
  students
• 45:17
  is
• 45:18
  going
• 45:18
  to
• 45:18
  give
• 45:18
  them
• 45:18
  an
• 45:18
  advantage
• 45:19
  in
• 45:19
  life
• 45:20
  and
• 45:20
  in
• 45:21
  when
• 45:21
  they're
• 45:21
  job
• 45:21
  hunting
• 45:22
  as
• 45:22
  well.
• 45:23
  You
• 45:23
  know,
• 45:23
  we've
• 45:23
  named
• 45:24
  some
• 45:24
  specific
• 45:25
  universities,
• 45:25
  but
• 45:25
  the
• 45:25
  best
• 45:26
  thing
• 45:26
  to
• 45:26
  do
• 45:26
  is
• 45:26
  actually
• 45:27
  go
• 45:27
  and
• 45:27
  start
• 45:28
  visiting
• 45:28
  them,
• 45:28
  go
• 45:29
  to
• 45:29
  the
• 45:29
  open
• 45:29
  days.
• 45:30
  I
• 45:31
  actually
• 45:31
  start
• 45:32
  taking
• 45:32
  my
• 45:32
  children
• 45:32
  to
• 45:32
  open
• 45:33
  days
• 45:33
  when
• 45:33
  they're
• 45:33
  like
• 45:34
  14,
• 45:34
  15
• 45:34
  years
• 45:35
  old
• 45:35
  just
• 45:35
  to
• 45:35
  brainwash
• 45:36
  them
• 45:36
  and
• 45:36
  say,
• 45:36
  look
• 45:37
  at
• 45:37
  this
• 45:37
  amazing
• 45:37
  place
• 45:38
  and
• 45:39
  study
• 45:39
  hard
• 45:40
  because
• 45:40
  then
• 45:40
  you
• 45:40
  can
• 45:40
  come
• 45:41
  here
• 45:41
  and
• 45:41
  see
• 45:41
  all
• 45:41
  this
• 45:41
  amazing
• 45:42
  stuff.
• 45:43
  And
• 45:43
  even
• 45:44
  if
• 45:44
  you
• 45:44
  can't
• 45:44
  make
• 45:44
  it
• 45:44
  to
• 45:45
  open
• 45:45
  days,
• 45:45
  a
• 45:45
  lot
• 45:45
  of
• 45:46
  the
• 45:46
  universities
• 45:47
  have
• 45:47
  virtual
• 45:47
  open
• 45:48
  days.
• 45:48
  So
• 45:48
  some
• 45:48
  of
• 45:48
  them
• 45:48
  are
• 45:49
  live
• 45:49
  or
• 45:49
  some
• 45:49
  of
• 45:49
  them
• 45:49
  are
• 45:50
  recorded
• 45:50
  and
• 45:50
  you
• 45:50
  can
• 45:50
  just
• 45:51
  put
• 45:51
  press
• 45:51
  play
• 45:51
  and
• 45:51
  see
• 45:53
  someone
• 45:53
  presenting
• 45:54
  the
• 45:54
  course.
• 45:55
  But
• 45:55
  the
• 45:55
  live
• 45:56
  ones
• 45:56
  are
• 45:56
  quite
• 45:56
  good
• 45:56
  because
• 45:57
  you
• 45:57
  can
• 45:57
  type
• 45:57
  your
• 45:57
  questions
• 45:58
  in.
• 45:58
  And
• 45:58
  one
• 45:59
  cheeky
• 45:59
  question
• 45:59
  I
• 46:00
  like
• 46:00
  to
• 46:00
  ask
• 46:00
  on
• 46:00
  these
• 46:01
  virtual
• 46:01
  open
• 46:01
  days
• 46:02
  are
• 46:02
  you
• 46:02
  say
• 46:03
  your
• 46:03
  entrance
• 46:03
  requirements
• 46:03
  are
• 46:04
  a
• 46:04
  A
• 46:04
  but
• 46:05
  actually,
• 46:06
  do
• 46:06
  you
• 46:06
  really
• 46:06
  mean
• 46:06
  the
• 46:07
  3A?
• 46:07
  If
• 46:07
  my
• 46:08
  child
• 46:08
  genuinely
• 46:09
  has
• 46:09
  a
• 46:09
  AA
• 46:10
  as
• 46:10
  predicted,
• 46:10
  do
• 46:10
  they
• 46:11
  actually
• 46:11
  have
• 46:11
  a
• 46:11
  chance?
• 46:12
  Because
• 46:13
  that's
• 46:13
  the
• 46:13
  other
• 46:13
  thing
• 46:14
  that
• 46:14
  people
• 46:14
  need
• 46:14
  to
• 46:14
  be
• 46:14
  aware,
• 46:15
  particularly
• 46:16
  in
• 46:16
  these
• 46:18
  high
• 46:18
  demand
• 46:18
  degree
• 46:19
  subjects
• 46:19
  like
• 46:20
  the
• 46:20
  STEM
• 46:20
  subjects
• 46:21
  like
• 46:21
  law,
• 46:22
  like
• 46:22
  medicine.
• 46:23
  Are
• 46:23
  they
• 46:23
  lying
• 46:23
  to
• 46:24
  you
• 46:24
  when
• 46:24
  they
• 46:25
  give
• 46:25
  you
• 46:25
  the
• 46:26
  entrance
• 46:26
  requirements?
• 46:27
  Because
• 46:27
  we
• 46:27
  know
• 46:28
  some
• 46:28
  of
• 46:28
  these
• 46:28
  courses
• 46:28
  are
• 46:29
  so
• 46:29
  competitive
• 46:29
  that
• 46:29
  they
• 46:30
  can
• 46:30
  literally
• 46:30
  just
• 46:31
  decide
• 46:31
  to
• 46:31
  take,
• 46:31
  you
• 46:32
  know,
• 46:32
  autistic
• 46:32
  star
• 46:33
  students
• 46:33
  and
• 46:34
  they'll
• 46:34
  be
• 46:34
  fine.
• 46:35
  I
• 46:35
  have
• 46:35
  a
• 46:35
  question
• 46:35
  about
• 46:36
  girls
• 46:37
  and
• 46:38
  women
• 46:38
  in
• 46:39
  stem,
• 46:40
  which
• 46:40
  I'm
• 46:41
  not
• 46:41
  sure
• 46:41
  you're
• 46:41
  going
• 46:41
  to
• 46:41
  be
• 46:41
  able
• 46:41
  to
• 46:41
  answer,
• 46:42
  but
• 46:42
  I'm
• 46:42
  going
• 46:42
  to
• 46:42
  ask
• 46:42
  it
• 46:43
  anyway.
• 46:43
  For
• 46:43
  anyone
• 46:44
  whose
• 46:44
  home
• 46:44
  educated
• 46:45
  daughter
• 46:46
  wants
• 46:46
  to
• 46:46
  do
• 46:47
  a
• 46:47
  STEM
• 46:47
  subject
• 46:48
  at
• 46:48
  university.
• 46:49
  Is
• 46:49
  there
• 46:49
  a
• 46:50
  university
• 46:50
  in
• 46:51
  particular
• 46:51
  or
• 46:52
  a
• 46:52
  course
• 46:52
  in
• 46:52
  particular
• 46:53
  that
• 46:53
  you
• 46:53
  think
• 46:53
  is
• 46:54
  more
• 46:54
  welcoming
• 46:55
  of
• 46:56
  women?
• 46:56
  Because
• 46:56
  I
• 46:57
  know
• 46:57
  my
• 46:57
  son
• 46:57
  who's
• 46:58
  doing
• 46:58
  his
• 46:58
  engineering
• 46:58
  degree.
• 46:59
  I
• 46:59
  said
• 46:59
  to
• 46:59
  him,
• 47:00
  many
• 47:00
  girls
• 47:00
  on
• 47:00
  your
• 47:01
  course,
• 47:01
  you
• 47:01
  know,
• 47:01
  and
• 47:02
  he
• 47:02
  was
• 47:02
  like,
• 47:02
  yeah,
• 47:02
  like
• 47:03
  one.
• 47:04
  And
• 47:04
  I
• 47:04
  thought
• 47:04
  that
• 47:05
  is
• 47:05
  so
• 47:05
  disappointing.
• 47:06
  And
• 47:06
  like,
• 47:07
  I'm
• 47:07
  perpetually
• 47:08
  disappointed
• 47:08
  by
• 47:08
  the
• 47:09
  amount
• 47:09
  of
• 47:10
  female
• 47:10
  students
• 47:10
  still
• 47:11
  in
• 47:11
  STEM
• 47:11
  subjects
• 47:12
  at
• 47:12
  university.
• 47:12
  Is
• 47:12
  there
• 47:13
  a
• 47:13
  university
• 47:13
  that
• 47:14
  you
• 47:14
  think
• 47:14
  is
• 47:14
  really
• 47:15
  good
• 47:15
  for
• 47:15
  this?
• 47:16
  That's
• 47:16
  such
• 47:17
  an
• 47:17
  interesting
• 47:17
  question.
• 47:19
  I
• 47:19
  can't
• 47:19
  say
• 47:20
  there's
• 47:20
  a
• 47:20
  university
• 47:20
  that's
• 47:21
  really
• 47:21
  good
• 47:21
  up
• 47:22
  for
• 47:22
  this.
• 47:22
  What
• 47:22
  I
• 47:22
  would
• 47:23
  say
• 47:23
  is
• 47:23
  there
• 47:24
  are
• 47:24
  a
• 47:24
  lot
• 47:24
  of
• 47:24
  initiatives
• 47:25
  out
• 47:25
  there
• 47:25
  to
• 47:25
  get
• 47:25
  girls
• 47:26
  into
• 47:26
  STEM,
• 47:27
  so
• 47:27
  first
• 47:28
  of
• 47:28
  all,
• 47:28
  join
• 47:28
  our
• 47:28
  WhatsApp
• 47:29
  group.
• 47:30
  But
• 47:30
  also
• 47:31
  I
• 47:31
  think
• 47:32
  keeping
• 47:32
  an
• 47:33
  eye
• 47:33
  out
• 47:33
  for
• 47:34
  university
• 47:34
  initiatives
• 47:35
  that
• 47:35
  are
• 47:36
  targeting
• 47:37
  women
• 47:38
  and
• 47:39
  sometimes
• 47:39
  ethnic
• 47:39
  minorities
• 47:40
  as
• 47:40
  well
• 47:40
  is
• 47:41
  a
• 47:41
  really
• 47:41
  good
• 47:41
  way
• 47:42
  to
• 47:42
  go.
• 47:42
  If
• 47:42
  you
• 47:42
  know
• 47:43
  you're
• 47:43
  looking
• 47:43
  at
• 47:43
  a
• 47:43
  particular
• 47:44
  university
• 47:44
  and
• 47:45
  you
• 47:45
  think
• 47:45
  they
• 47:45
  may,
• 47:46
  they
• 47:46
  may
• 47:46
  have
• 47:47
  specific
• 47:47
  sort
• 47:48
  of
• 47:48
  reduced
• 47:49
  entry
• 47:49
  requirements
• 47:50
  sometimes,
• 47:50
  sometimes
• 47:51
  specific
• 47:51
  courses,
• 47:52
  taster
• 47:52
  courses
• 47:53
  that
• 47:53
  are
• 47:53
  targeting
• 47:55
  women
• 47:55
  in
• 47:55
  stem.
• 47:56
  I
• 47:56
  know
• 47:56
  Queen
• 47:56
  Mary's
• 47:56
  used
• 47:57
  to
• 47:57
  do
• 47:57
  a
• 47:57
  scholarship
• 47:57
  in
• 47:58
  this
• 47:58
  area,
• 47:59
  so
• 47:59
  do
• 47:59
  your
• 48:00
  research.
• 48:00
  I'd
• 48:00
  say
• 48:01
  this
• 48:01
  goes
• 48:01
  alongside
• 48:01
  what
• 48:02
  Caroline's
• 48:02
  saying.
• 48:02
  I
• 48:02
  think
• 48:03
  if
• 48:03
  you're
• 48:03
  a
• 48:03
  girl
• 48:03
  and
• 48:03
  you
• 48:04
  are
• 48:04
  saying
• 48:04
  year
• 48:04
  10
• 48:05
  or
• 48:05
  11
• 48:05
  and
• 48:05
  you
• 48:05
  think,
• 48:06
  you
• 48:06
  know,
• 48:06
  I
• 48:06
  like
• 48:07
  maths,
• 48:07
  but
• 48:07
  I
• 48:07
  don't
• 48:08
  know
• 48:08
  if
• 48:08
  this
• 48:08
  is
• 48:08
  for
• 48:09
  me.
• 48:09
  I
• 48:09
  don't
• 48:09
  know
• 48:09
  if
• 48:09
  it's
• 48:10
  too
• 48:10
  male
• 48:10
  oriented
• 48:11
  a
• 48:11
  field.
• 48:11
  Don't
• 48:12
  let
• 48:12
  that
• 48:12
  get
• 48:12
  you
• 48:12
  down,
• 48:13
  start
• 48:13
  doing
• 48:14
  your
• 48:14
  research
• 48:14
  early.
• 48:15
  There
• 48:15
  are
• 48:16
  lots
• 48:16
  of
• 48:16
  extra
• 48:17
  initiatives
• 48:17
  that
• 48:17
  go
• 48:18
  on
• 48:18
  specifically
• 48:19
  for
• 48:19
  getting
• 48:20
  women
• 48:20
  into
• 48:20
  stem.
• 48:20
  I
• 48:21
  know
• 48:21
  there's
• 48:21
  a
• 48:21
  group
• 48:21
  called
• 48:22
  Maths
• 48:22
  for
• 48:22
  Girls,
• 48:23
  Maths
• 48:23
  the
• 48:24
  number
• 48:24
  four
• 48:24
  and
• 48:24
  then
• 48:24
  girls,
• 48:25
  which
• 48:26
  specifically
• 48:26
  is
• 48:26
  working
• 48:27
  on
• 48:27
  this,
• 48:27
  creating,
• 48:28
  connecting
• 48:28
  girls
• 48:29
  with
• 48:29
  mentors
• 48:30
  so
• 48:30
  that
• 48:30
  they
• 48:30
  can
• 48:30
  speak
• 48:31
  to
• 48:31
  them.
• 48:31
  But
• 48:31
  also
• 48:31
  these
• 48:32
  days
• 48:32
  a
• 48:32
  lot
• 48:32
  of
• 48:32
  universities
• 48:33
  have
• 48:33
  just.
• 48:33
  Scott
• 48:34
  if
• 48:34
  you
• 48:34
  look
• 48:34
  at
• 48:34
  your
• 48:34
  course
• 48:34
  and
• 48:35
  you
• 48:35
  look
• 48:35
  at
• 48:35
  students
• 48:35
  doing
• 48:36
  them,
• 48:36
  you'll
• 48:37
  start
• 48:37
  to
• 48:37
  see
• 48:37
  more
• 48:37
  and
• 48:37
  more
• 48:38
  sort
• 48:38
  of
• 48:38
  female
• 48:38
  role
• 48:39
  models.
• 48:39
  So
• 48:40
  you
• 48:40
  can
• 48:40
  connect
• 48:40
  with
• 48:41
  students
• 48:41
  who
• 48:41
  are
• 48:42
  in
• 48:42
  that
• 48:42
  area
• 48:42
  and
• 48:42
  then
• 48:43
  speak
• 48:43
  to
• 48:43
  them
• 48:43
  and
• 48:43
  have
• 48:43
  a
• 48:44
  chat
• 48:44
  about
• 48:44
  their
• 48:44
  experience.
• 48:45
  Unfortunately,
• 48:46
  this
• 48:46
  is
• 48:46
  a
• 48:46
  challenge
• 48:47
  we're
• 48:47
  still
• 48:47
  grappling
• 48:48
  with,
• 48:48
  but
• 48:49
  it's
• 48:49
  getting
• 48:49
  better
• 48:50
  and
• 48:50
  it
• 48:50
  is
• 48:51
  definitely
• 48:51
  like
• 48:51
  I
• 48:51
  did
• 48:52
  computer
• 48:52
  science,
• 48:52
  software
• 48:53
  engineering
• 48:53
  in
• 48:53
  Toronto
• 48:54
  and
• 48:54
  it
• 48:54
  was
• 48:54
  the
• 48:55
  same
• 48:55
  kind
• 48:55
  of
• 48:55
  thing,
• 48:55
  10%
• 48:56
  of
• 48:56
  the
• 48:56
  class
• 48:57
  was
• 48:57
  female.
• 48:58
  But
• 48:58
  it's
• 48:58
  definitely
• 48:58
  getting
• 48:59
  better
• 48:59
  because
• 48:59
  I
• 48:59
  remember
• 49:00
  back
• 49:00
  then
• 49:00
  just
• 49:00
  having
• 49:01
  a
• 49:01
  female
• 49:01
  professor
• 49:03
  made
• 49:03
  all
• 49:03
  the
• 49:03
  difference,
• 49:04
  knowing
• 49:04
  that
• 49:04
  there
• 49:04
  were
• 49:04
  role
• 49:05
  models
• 49:05
  and
• 49:05
  there
• 49:05
  are
• 49:05
  more
• 49:06
  and
• 49:06
  more
• 49:06
  of
• 49:06
  them.
• 49:07
  So
• 49:07
  I
• 49:07
  think
• 49:07
  connecting
• 49:08
  with
• 49:08
  a
• 49:09
  mentor
• 49:09
  and
• 49:09
  then
• 49:09
  having
• 49:09
  that
• 49:10
  conversation,
• 49:11
  which
• 49:11
  universities
• 49:12
  are
• 49:12
  making
• 49:12
  much
• 49:13
  easier
• 49:13
  nowadays,
• 49:14
  if
• 49:14
  you're
• 49:14
  looking
• 49:14
  on
• 49:15
  their
• 49:15
  websites
• 49:15
  and
• 49:15
  just
• 49:15
  finding
• 49:16
  that
• 49:16
  might
• 49:17
  change
• 49:17
  your
• 49:17
  mind.
• 49:17
  A
• 49:18
  math
• 49:18
  degree,
• 49:19
  they,
• 49:19
  that
• 49:19
  usually
• 49:19
  it
• 49:20
  does
• 49:20
  have
• 49:20
  better
• 49:20
  stats.
• 49:21
  Maybe
• 49:21
  it's
• 49:21
  40
• 49:21
  women
• 49:22
  and
• 49:22
  then
• 49:23
  obviously
• 49:23
  medicine
• 49:24
  is,
• 49:24
  is
• 49:24
  majority
• 49:25
  women.
• 49:25
  Yeah,
• 49:26
  that's
• 49:26
  true.
• 49:27
  So
• 49:27
  when
• 49:28
  it
• 49:28
  comes
• 49:28
  to
• 49:29
  my.
• 49:30
  I've
• 49:30
  got
• 49:30
  two
• 49:31
  final
• 49:31
  questions,
• 49:32
  so
• 49:33
  my
• 49:33
  maths
• 49:34
  was
• 49:34
  out
• 49:34
  when
• 49:34
  it
• 49:34
  came
• 49:34
  to
• 49:34
  how
• 49:34
  many
• 49:34
  questions
• 49:35
  I
• 49:35
  had.
• 49:35
  What
• 49:36
  is
• 49:36
  your
• 49:37
  top
• 49:37
  tip?
• 49:38
  Each
• 49:38
  of
• 49:38
  you
• 49:39
  for
• 49:40
  a
• 49:40
  home
• 49:41
  educated
• 49:41
  student
• 49:41
  who's
• 49:42
  maybe
• 49:42
  15,
• 49:43
  16,
• 49:43
  about
• 49:43
  to
• 49:44
  start
• 49:44
  their
• 49:44
  A
• 49:44
  levels
• 49:45
  and
• 49:45
  they
• 49:45
  want
• 49:45
  to
• 49:45
  do
• 49:45
  a
• 49:45
  STEM
• 49:46
  subject
• 49:46
  at
• 49:46
  a
• 49:46
  university,
• 49:47
  what
• 49:47
  is
• 49:47
  your
• 49:47
  top
• 49:48
  tip
• 49:48
  for
• 49:48
  the
• 49:49
  parent
• 49:49
  or
• 49:50
  the
• 49:50
  child?
• 49:51
  Start
• 49:51
  looking
• 49:51
  early.
• 49:52
  So
• 49:53
  don't
• 49:54
  wait
• 49:54
  till
• 49:54
  you're
• 49:54
  in
• 49:55
  sixth
• 49:55
  form
• 49:55
  to
• 49:56
  start
• 49:56
  researching
• 49:57
  your
• 49:57
  options
• 49:58
  because
• 49:58
  when
• 49:58
  you
• 49:59
  kind
• 49:59
  of
• 49:59
  see
• 49:59
  that
• 50:00
  pathway
• 50:00
  for
• 50:01
  yourself,
• 50:01
  that
• 50:01
  makes
• 50:01
  it
• 50:02
  a
• 50:02
  lot
• 50:02
  easier
• 50:02
  to
• 50:02
  make
• 50:02
  your
• 50:03
  decision
• 50:03
  decisions
• 50:03
  around
• 50:03
  your
• 50:03
  A
• 50:04
  levels
• 50:04
  and
• 50:05
  it
• 50:05
  often
• 50:05
  hits
• 50:05
  students
• 50:06
  sooner
• 50:06
  than
• 50:06
  they
• 50:06
  think.
• 50:07
  You
• 50:07
  know,
• 50:07
  it
• 50:08
  all
• 50:08
  starts
• 50:08
  to
• 50:08
  seem
• 50:08
  happening.
• 50:09
  It
• 50:09
  seems
• 50:09
  to
• 50:09
  start
• 50:10
  happening,
• 50:10
  sorry,
• 50:10
  very,
• 50:11
  very
• 50:11
  fast.
• 50:12
  So
• 50:12
  do
• 50:12
  your
• 50:12
  research
• 50:13
  in
• 50:13
  year
• 50:14
  11,
• 50:14
  start
• 50:14
  looking
• 50:14
  ahead.
• 50:15
  Year
• 50:15
  10.
• 50:15
  I'd
• 50:15
  even
• 50:16
  say
• 50:16
  there's
• 50:17
  no
• 50:17
  harm
• 50:17
  in
• 50:17
  going
• 50:17
  to
• 50:18
  open
• 50:18
  days
• 50:18
  like
• 50:18
  Caroline
• 50:18
  was
• 50:19
  saying
• 50:19
  since
• 50:19
  14,
• 50:19
  15,
• 50:20
  you
• 50:20
  know,
• 50:20
  go
• 50:21
  to
• 50:21
  those
• 50:21
  open
• 50:21
  days,
• 50:22
  get
• 50:22
  a
• 50:22
  feel,
• 50:23
  start
• 50:23
  finding
• 50:23
  out,
• 50:24
  start
• 50:24
  speaking
• 50:24
  to
• 50:25
  students,
• 50:25
  anybody
• 50:26
  in
• 50:26
  your
• 50:26
  network
• 50:26
  who
• 50:27
  is
• 50:27
  in
• 50:27
  university
• 50:28
  and
• 50:28
  asking
• 50:28
  them
• 50:28
  what
• 50:29
  they're
• 50:29
  studying.
• 50:30
  Take
• 50:30
  an
• 50:30
  interest
• 50:30
  in
• 50:30
  people
• 50:31
  around
• 50:31
  you.
• 50:32
  Make
• 50:32
  a
• 50:32
  LinkedIn
• 50:33
  profile.
• 50:33
  That's
• 50:34
  another
• 50:34
  top
• 50:34
  tip.
• 50:34
  Make
• 50:35
  a
• 50:35
  LinkedIn
• 50:35
  profile.
• 50:36
  Don't
• 50:36
  wait
• 50:36
  for
• 50:36
  that.
• 50:36
  It
• 50:36
  doesn't
• 50:37
  matter
• 50:37
  if
• 50:37
  there's
• 50:37
  not
• 50:37
  a
• 50:37
  lot
• 50:38
  on
• 50:38
  it,
• 50:38
  just
• 50:38
  some
• 50:38
  volunteer
• 50:39
  work
• 50:39
  or
• 50:39
  Duke
• 50:39
  of
• 50:39
  Edinburgh,
• 50:40
  whatever
• 50:40
  you've
• 50:40
  done,
• 50:41
  and
• 50:41
  then
• 50:41
  start
• 50:41
  connecting
• 50:42
  via
• 50:42
  LinkedIn
• 50:43
  with
• 50:43
  say
• 50:43
  students,
• 50:44
  you
• 50:44
  know,
• 50:44
  studying
• 50:45
  the
• 50:45
  sorts
• 50:45
  of
• 50:45
  things
• 50:45
  that
• 50:46
  you're
• 50:46
  interested
• 50:46
  in.
• 50:47
  But
• 50:47
  definitely
• 50:48
  start
• 50:48
  your
• 50:48
  research
• 50:49
  early
• 50:49
  because
• 50:50
  being
• 50:50
  informed
• 50:50
  is
• 50:51
  the
• 50:51
  way
• 50:51
  forward.
• 50:52
  Yeah,
• 50:52
  I
• 50:52
  agree.
• 50:53
  Start,
• 50:53
  start
• 50:53
  early
• 50:54
  and
• 50:54
  also
• 50:55
  Embrace
• 50:55
  your
• 50:56
  waste
• 50:56
  of
• 50:56
  time.
• 50:57
  So
• 50:57
  if
• 50:57
  you
• 50:57
  are
• 50:57
  interested
• 50:58
  in,
• 50:59
  you
• 50:59
  know,
• 50:59
  engineering
• 51:00
  or
• 51:00
  maths
• 51:01
  and
• 51:01
  you,
• 51:02
  you
• 51:02
  find
• 51:02
  yourself
• 51:03
  being
• 51:03
  really
• 51:03
  nerdy
• 51:04
  and
• 51:04
  looking
• 51:04
  at
• 51:04
  all
• 51:05
  the
• 51:05
  YouTube
• 51:05
  videos,
• 51:06
  embrace
• 51:06
  it.
• 51:07
  Maybe
• 51:07
  just
• 51:07
  make
• 51:08
  a
• 51:08
  note
• 51:08
  of
• 51:08
  what
• 51:08
  you
• 51:09
  found
• 51:09
  interesting
• 51:09
  so
• 51:10
  that
• 51:10
  when
• 51:10
  it
• 51:10
  comes
• 51:11
  to
• 51:11
  writing
• 51:11
  your
• 51:12
  personal
• 51:12
  statement,
• 51:13
  you'll
• 51:13
  have
• 51:14
  a
• 51:14
  list
• 51:14
  of
• 51:14
  things.
• 51:14
  Oh,
• 51:15
  yes,
• 51:15
  I
• 51:15
  was,
• 51:15
  you
• 51:15
  know,
• 51:16
  I
• 51:16
  remember
• 51:16
  that
• 51:16
  YouTube
• 51:17
  series
• 51:17
  I
• 51:17
  watched
• 51:18
  and
• 51:18
  this
• 51:18
  is
• 51:18
  what
• 51:18
  I
• 51:18
  found
• 51:18
  interesting
• 51:19
  about
• 51:19
  it.
• 51:19
  And
• 51:19
  this
• 51:20
  is
• 51:20
  why
• 51:20
  I
• 51:20
  want
• 51:20
  to
• 51:21
  study
• 51:21
  xyz.
• 51:23
  I
• 51:23
  think
• 51:23
  if
• 51:23
  I
• 51:23
  was
• 51:24
  going
• 51:24
  to
• 51:24
  give
• 51:24
  a
• 51:24
  tip,
• 51:24
  and
• 51:25
  I
• 51:25
  really
• 51:25
  am
• 51:26
  not
• 51:26
  qualified
• 51:26
  to
• 51:26
  give
• 51:26
  a
• 51:27
  tip
• 51:27
  about
• 51:27
  STEM
• 51:27
  subjects
• 51:28
  at
• 51:28
  university,
• 51:28
  but
• 51:28
  if
• 51:28
  I
• 51:28
  was
• 51:29
  going
• 51:29
  to,
• 51:29
  to,
• 51:30
  I
• 51:30
  would
• 51:30
  say
• 51:30
  to
• 51:31
  broaden
• 51:31
  your
• 51:31
  horizons
• 51:32
  when
• 51:33
  it
• 51:33
  comes
• 51:33
  to
• 51:33
  what
• 51:33
  you're
• 51:34
  looking
• 51:34
  at.
• 51:34
  I
• 51:34
  mean,
• 51:34
  my
• 51:35
  son
• 51:35
  is
• 51:35
  currently
• 51:36
  in
• 51:36
  Germany
• 51:37
  doing
• 51:37
  a
• 51:37
  bilingual
• 51:38
  engineering
• 51:39
  degree.
• 51:39
  It's
• 51:39
  costing
• 51:40
  me
• 51:40
  almost
• 51:41
  nothing.
• 51:41
  And
• 51:42
  he's
• 51:42
  learning,
• 51:43
  he's
• 51:43
  going
• 51:43
  to
• 51:43
  be
• 51:43
  fluent
• 51:44
  in
• 51:44
  German
• 51:44
  by
• 51:44
  the
• 51:44
  time
• 51:45
  he
• 51:45
  finishes.
• 51:45
  He's
• 51:45
  in
• 51:45
  a
• 51:46
  new
• 51:46
  country.
• 51:47
  It's
• 51:47
  a
• 51:47
  great
• 51:47
  degree.
• 51:48
  So
• 51:48
  even
• 51:48
  if
• 51:48
  engineering
• 51:49
  gets
• 51:49
  completely
• 51:49
  taken
• 51:50
  over
• 51:50
  by
• 51:50
  AI,
• 51:50
  at
• 51:51
  least
• 51:51
  he'd
• 51:51
  be
• 51:51
  able
• 51:51
  to
• 51:51
  speak
• 51:52
  bloody
• 51:52
  German
• 51:52
  at
• 51:53
  the
• 51:53
  end
• 51:53
  of
• 51:53
  it.
• 51:53
  So,
• 51:53
  you
• 51:54
  know,
• 51:54
  like,
• 51:54
  there's,
• 51:54
  there's
• 51:55
  other
• 51:55
  options.
• 51:55
  Options.
• 51:56
  You
• 51:56
  don't
• 51:56
  just
• 51:56
  have
• 51:57
  to
• 51:57
  be
• 51:57
  like
• 51:57
  slogging
• 51:58
  your
• 51:58
  guts
• 51:58
  out
• 51:58
  to
• 51:58
  get
• 51:59
  into
• 51:59
  Imperial
• 52:00
  or
• 52:00
  Oxford
• 52:00
  or
• 52:01
  wherever
• 52:01
  you
• 52:01
  can,
• 52:01
  you
• 52:02
  can
• 52:02
  go
• 52:02
  to
• 52:02
  Cardiff
• 52:03
  University
• 52:03
  and
• 52:04
  do
• 52:04
  engineering
• 52:04
  and
• 52:04
  just
• 52:04
  have
• 52:05
  an
• 52:05
  amazing
• 52:05
  time
• 52:06
  and
• 52:06
  learn
• 52:06
  lots
• 52:06
  of
• 52:06
  wonderful
• 52:07
  skills
• 52:07
  and
• 52:07
  surf
• 52:08
  in
• 52:08
  the
• 52:08
  summers.
• 52:09
  And
• 52:09
  so,
• 52:09
  like,
• 52:10
  I
• 52:10
  think
• 52:10
  that
• 52:10
  it's
• 52:10
  good
• 52:11
  to
• 52:11
  broaden
• 52:11
  your
• 52:11
  horizons.
• 52:12
  Can
• 52:12
  I
• 52:12
  just,
• 52:13
  yeah,
• 52:13
  jump
• 52:13
  in
• 52:13
  with
• 52:13
  a
• 52:13
  little
• 52:13
  story
• 52:14
  here?
• 52:14
  So
• 52:14
  one
• 52:14
  of
• 52:14
  my,
• 52:15
  one
• 52:15
  of
• 52:15
  my
• 52:15
  lovely
• 52:15
  ex
• 52:16
  students,
• 52:16
  she,
• 52:17
  she
• 52:17
  loved
• 52:18
  maths
• 52:18
  and
• 52:18
  she
• 52:19
  went
• 52:19
  to
• 52:19
  Swansea,
• 52:20
  which,
• 52:20
  you
• 52:20
  know,
• 52:20
  doesn't
• 52:21
  jump
• 52:21
  out
• 52:21
  in
• 52:21
  anyone's
• 52:22
  mind,
• 52:22
  but
• 52:22
  she
• 52:23
  got
• 52:23
  a
• 52:23
  scholarship
• 52:24
  and
• 52:24
  she
• 52:25
  is
• 52:25
  doing
• 52:26
  so
• 52:26
  well.
• 52:26
  So
• 52:26
  she's
• 52:26
  now
• 52:27
  currently
• 52:27
  working
• 52:27
  at
• 52:27
  BUPA
• 52:28
  and
• 52:28
  insurance.
• 52:29
  And,
• 52:29
  you
• 52:29
  know,
• 52:30
  it's
• 52:30
  just,
• 52:30
  she
• 52:31
  says
• 52:31
  being
• 52:31
  at
• 52:31
  Swansea
• 52:32
  is
• 52:32
  an
• 52:32
  interesting
• 52:32
  experience
• 52:32
  because
• 52:33
  it's
• 52:33
  not
• 52:33
  as
• 52:33
  intense
• 52:34
  as
• 52:34
  some
• 52:34
  of
• 52:34
  those
• 52:35
  like
• 52:35
  the
• 52:35
  ones
• 52:35
  we've
• 52:36
  been
• 52:36
  talking
• 52:36
  about,
• 52:36
  you
• 52:36
  know,
• 52:36
  Oxbridge
• 52:37
  and
• 52:37
  Imperial
• 52:37
  and
• 52:37
  all
• 52:37
  of
• 52:38
  that.
• 52:38
  But
• 52:38
  she,
• 52:39
  she
• 52:39
  gets
• 52:39
  a
• 52:39
  lot
• 52:39
  of
• 52:39
  a
• 52:40
  chance
• 52:40
  to
• 52:40
  sort
• 52:40
  of
• 52:40
  explore
• 52:41
  other
• 52:41
  interests
• 52:41
  and,
• 52:42
  you
• 52:42
  know,
• 52:42
  university
• 52:43
  should
• 52:43
  be
• 52:44
  about
• 52:44
  exploring
• 52:45
  all
• 52:45
  your
• 52:46
  whole
• 52:46
  self,
• 52:47
  shouldn't
• 52:47
  it?
• 52:47
  So,
• 52:48
  and
• 52:48
  I
• 52:48
  just
• 52:48
  love
• 52:49
  that,
• 52:49
  that
• 52:49
  she's
• 52:49
  been
• 52:49
  able
• 52:49
  to
• 52:50
  do
• 52:50
  that
• 52:50
  in
• 52:50
  that
• 52:50
  scenario,
• 52:51
  you
• 52:51
  know,
• 52:51
  So
• 52:51
  I
• 52:52
  love
• 52:52
  that
• 52:52
  you're
• 52:52
  saying
• 52:52
  broaden
• 52:53
  your
• 52:53
  horizons.
• 52:53
  I
• 52:53
  totally
• 52:54
  agree.
• 52:55
  My
• 52:55
  very
• 52:55
  final
• 52:56
  question,
• 52:56
  this
• 52:56
  is,
• 52:56
  my
• 52:57
  final
• 52:57
  question
• 52:58
  is
• 52:58
  what
• 52:58
  about
• 52:59
  some
• 52:59
  resources
• 53:01
  that
• 53:01
  you
• 53:01
  would
• 53:01
  recommend
• 53:02
  for
• 53:02
  home
• 53:02
  educated
• 53:03
  children
• 53:03
  doing
• 53:03
  STEM
• 53:04
  subjects?
• 53:04
  Are
• 53:04
  there
• 53:04
  YouTube
• 53:05
  channels
• 53:05
  you
• 53:05
  particularly
• 53:06
  like
• 53:06
  podcasts,
• 53:08
  books,
• 53:10
  influencers,
• 53:10
  whatever.
• 53:11
  Like
• 53:11
  other
• 53:11
  things
• 53:12
  that
• 53:12
  you
• 53:12
  think
• 53:12
  are
• 53:13
  really
• 53:13
  good.
• 53:14
  Free
• 53:14
  resources
• 53:15
  or
• 53:15
  paid
• 53:15
  for
• 53:15
  resources
• 53:17
  definitely.
• 53:17
  Have
• 53:18
  to
• 53:18
  jump
• 53:18
  in
• 53:18
  here.
• 53:18
  So
• 53:19
  for
• 53:19
  maths
• 53:19
  there's
• 53:20
  this,
• 53:21
  this
• 53:22
  sort
• 53:22
  of
• 53:22
  creator
• 53:23
  he
• 53:23
  creates.
• 53:24
  He's
• 53:24
  on
• 53:24
  YouTube
• 53:25
  as
• 53:25
  well.
• 53:25
  He's
• 53:25
  called
• 53:25
  Three
• 53:25
  Blue,
• 53:26
  One
• 53:26
  Brown.
• 53:27
  His
• 53:27
  videos
• 53:28
  are
• 53:29
  amazingly
• 53:30
  visual
• 53:31
  and
• 53:31
  because
• 53:31
  of
• 53:32
  exactly
• 53:32
  what
• 53:32
  you
• 53:32
  said,
• 53:32
  exploring
• 53:33
  sort
• 53:33
  of
• 53:33
  beyond,
• 53:34
  it's
• 53:35
  just
• 53:35
  for
• 53:35
  Matt's
• 53:36
  geeks
• 53:36
  like
• 53:36
  me,
• 53:37
  like,
• 53:37
  is
• 53:37
  just
• 53:38
  a
• 53:38
  dream
• 53:38
  come
• 53:38
  true.
• 53:39
  Like
• 53:39
  he
• 53:39
  is
• 53:39
  amazing.
• 53:40
  Three
• 53:40
  Blue,
• 53:40
  One
• 53:41
  Brown.
• 53:41
  And
• 53:42
  he's
• 53:42
  completely.
• 53:43
  He's
• 53:43
  not
• 53:43
  the
• 53:44
  typical.
• 53:44
  Here's
• 53:44
  your
• 53:44
  curriculum,
• 53:45
  I'm
• 53:45
  going
• 53:45
  to
• 53:45
  teach
• 53:45
  it
• 53:45
  to
• 53:45
  you.
• 53:46
  It's
• 53:46
  not
• 53:46
  to
• 53:46
  do
• 53:46
  with
• 53:46
  curriculum,
• 53:47
  it's
• 53:47
  just
• 53:47
  about
• 53:47
  exploring
• 53:47
  math
• 53:48
  and,
• 53:48
  you
• 53:48
  know,
• 53:49
  finding
• 53:49
  out
• 53:49
  whatever
• 53:49
  you're
• 53:50
  curious
• 53:50
  about.
• 53:51
  I
• 53:51
  was
• 53:51
  saying
• 53:52
  Bison
• 53:52
  Maths
• 53:52
  for
• 53:53
  sure,
• 53:53
  but
• 53:53
  also
• 53:55
  Royal
• 53:55
  Institution
• 53:56
  is
• 53:56
  one.
• 53:56
  If
• 53:56
  you're
• 53:57
  in
• 53:57
  the
• 53:57
  UK
• 53:57
  and
• 53:57
  looking
• 53:58
  university,
• 53:58
  you
• 53:58
  know,
• 53:59
  look
• 53:59
  at
• 53:59
  Royal
• 53:59
  Institution
• 54:00
  does
• 54:00
  a
• 54:00
  lot
• 54:00
  of
• 54:00
  interesting
• 54:01
  talks
• 54:02
  and
• 54:02
  gets
• 54:02
  a
• 54:03
  lot
• 54:03
  of
• 54:03
  speakers
• 54:03
  in.
• 54:03
  Tom
• 54:04
  rocks.
• 54:04
  I
• 54:04
  think
• 54:05
  the
• 54:05
  students
• 54:05
  themselves
• 54:06
  are
• 54:06
  the
• 54:06
  experts
• 54:06
  these
• 54:06
  days.
• 54:07
  They
• 54:07
  know
• 54:07
  so
• 54:07
  many
• 54:08
  YouTubers
• 54:08
  and
• 54:09
  so
• 54:09
  many
• 54:10
  sort
• 54:10
  of
• 54:10
  resources
• 54:11
  that
• 54:11
  are
• 54:11
  out
• 54:11
  there
• 54:12
  that
• 54:12
  they
• 54:12
  can
• 54:12
  access,
• 54:13
  you
• 54:13
  know,
• 54:13
  with
• 54:13
  TikTok,
• 54:14
  Mac
• 54:14
  streams
• 54:14
  and
• 54:14
  all
• 54:15
  of
• 54:15
  that.
• 54:16
  But
• 54:16
  yeah,
• 54:16
  I
• 54:16
  could
• 54:16
  go
• 54:16
  on
• 54:17
  forever
• 54:17
  on
• 54:17
  this
• 54:17
  topic.
• 54:18
  I
• 54:18
  think
• 54:18
  Isaac
• 54:19
  Science
• 54:19
  is
• 54:19
  another
• 54:19
  one
• 54:20
  that
• 54:20
  I've
• 54:20
  come
• 54:20
  across
• 54:20
  recently
• 54:21
  which
• 54:21
  does
• 54:21
  a
• 54:21
  lot
• 54:22
  of
• 54:22
  free,
• 54:24
  you
• 54:24
  know,
• 54:24
  has
• 54:24
  free
• 54:25
  courses
• 54:25
  etc
• 54:25
  and
• 54:25
  all
• 54:26
  sorts
• 54:26
  of
• 54:26
  bits
• 54:26
  of
• 54:26
  science.
• 54:27
  So
• 54:27
  a
• 54:27
  bit
• 54:28
  less
• 54:28
  maxi
• 54:28
  there.
• 54:29
  Yeah,
• 54:29
  I
• 54:29
  think
• 54:29
  the
• 54:30
  Farah's
• 54:30
  mentioned,
• 54:31
  you
• 54:31
  know,
• 54:31
  all
• 54:31
  the
• 54:31
  great
• 54:32
  ones.
• 54:32
  I'm
• 54:32
  a
• 54:32
  big
• 54:32
  fan
• 54:33
  of
• 54:33
  Dr.
• 54:33
  Hannah
• 54:33
  Fry,
• 54:34
  but
• 54:34
  I
• 54:34
  mean
• 54:34
  there's
• 54:34
  probably
• 54:35
  not
• 54:36
  that
• 54:36
  she's
• 54:36
  old,
• 54:36
  but
• 54:36
  there's
• 54:37
  probably
• 54:37
  younger
• 54:37
  and
• 54:38
  not
• 54:38
  that
• 54:38
  she's
• 54:38
  cool,
• 54:39
  cooler
• 54:40
  people
• 54:40
  to
• 54:41
  follow
• 54:41
  as
• 54:41
  well.
• 54:42
  So
• 54:42
  I
• 54:42
  think
• 54:42
  the
• 54:42
  issue
• 54:43
  is
• 54:43
  there's
• 54:43
  so
• 54:43
  many
• 54:44
  resources.
• 54:44
  I
• 54:45
  guess
• 54:45
  if
• 54:45
  you
• 54:46
  just
• 54:46
  open
• 54:46
  Tick
• 54:46
  Tock
• 54:47
  and
• 54:47
  start
• 54:47
  liking
• 54:48
  the
• 54:48
  science
• 54:49
  sciency
• 54:49
  things
• 54:50
  I
• 54:51
  think
• 54:51
  TikTok
• 54:51
  will
• 54:51
  find
• 54:52
  give
• 54:52
  will
• 54:52
  serve
• 54:53
  you
• 54:53
  some
• 54:53
  really
• 54:53
  excellent
• 54:54
  content.
• 54:54
  So
• 54:55
  give
• 54:55
  yourself
• 54:56
  over
• 54:56
  to
• 54:56
  Tick
• 54:56
  Tock.
• 54:57
  Yeah,
• 54:57
  Let
• 54:58
  the
• 54:58
  algorithm
• 54:59
  do
• 54:59
  the
• 54:59
  work
• 54:59
  for
• 54:59
  you.
• 55:00
  Right.
• 55:00
  There'll
• 55:00
  be
• 55:00
  some
• 55:01
  sort
• 55:01
  of
• 55:01
  clever
• 55:01
  STEM
• 55:02
  person
• 55:02
  behind
• 55:02
  the
• 55:02
  algorithm.
• 55:03
  So
• 55:03
  let's
• 55:03
  go
• 55:04
  for
• 55:04
  it.
• 55:04
  Well,
• 55:05
  Farah
• 55:05
  and
• 55:05
  Caroline,
• 55:06
  thank
• 55:06
  you
• 55:06
  so
• 55:06
  much
• 55:07
  for
• 55:07
  coming
• 55:07
  on
• 55:08
  the
• 55:08
  podcast
• 55:08
  today.
• 55:09
  I
• 55:09
  know
• 55:10
  that
• 55:10
  the
• 55:10
  link
• 55:11
  to
• 55:11
  your
• 55:11
  WhatsApp
• 55:12
  group
• 55:12
  will
• 55:12
  be
• 55:12
  in
• 55:12
  the
• 55:12
  show
• 55:13
  notes.
• 55:13
  Yeah.
• 55:13
  Yes,
• 55:14
  I'm
• 55:14
  getting
• 55:14
  lots
• 55:14
  of
• 55:15
  nodding.
• 55:15
  Good.
• 55:15
  Okay.
• 55:16
  So
• 55:17
  thank
• 55:17
  you
• 55:17
  so
• 55:17
  much
• 55:17
  for
• 55:18
  coming
• 55:18
  on
• 55:18
  and
• 55:18
  guiding
• 55:19
  us
• 55:19
  through
• 55:19
  stem.
• 55:20
  And
• 55:20
  for
• 55:21
  anyone
• 55:21
  who's
• 55:21
  listening
• 55:22
  who
• 55:22
  would
• 55:22
  like
• 55:22
  to
• 55:22
  join
• 55:22
  the
• 55:22
  WhatsApp
• 55:23
  group,
• 55:23
  then
• 55:24
  do
• 55:24
  check
• 55:24
  it
• 55:25
  out.
• 55:25
  I'm
• 55:25
  on
• 55:25
  it.
• 55:25
  It's
• 55:26
  great.
• 55:26
  Thank
• 55:26
  you
• 55:26
  again
• 55:27
  for
• 55:27
  coming
• 55:27
  on
• 55:27
  the
• 55:27
  podcast.
• 55:28
  And
• 55:28
  happy
• 55:29
  stemming.
• 55:29
  Happy
• 55:30
  nerd
• 55:30
  stemming.
• 55:31
  Thank
• 55:31
  you
• 55:31
  for
• 55:31
  having
• 55:32
  us.
• 55:32
  Thank
• 55:32
  you.
• 55:32
  It's
• 55:33
  been
• 55:33
  a
• 55:33
  pleasure.
• 55:34
  Thank
• 55:34
  you
• 55:34
  so
• 55:34
  much
• 55:34
  for
• 55:34
  joining
• 55:35
  us
• 55:35
  for
• 55:35
  today's
• 55:35
  Home
• 55:36
  Education
• 55:36
  Matters
• 55:36
  podcast.
• 55:37
  See
• 55:37
  you
• 55:37
  at
• 55:38
  the
• 55:38
  next
• 55:38
  one.
• 55:38
  Have
• 55:38
  a
• 55:38
  lovely
• 55:39
  day.
• 55:39
  It.