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E153: The Life-Changing Power Of The Rosary w/Gabe Castillo · The Lila Rose Show

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  This is kind of like a tour of the life of Christ.
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  I have been convinced, thoroughly convinced, that it is
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  theologically the most profound spiritual prayer for any
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  Christian, not just for a Catholic that exists.
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  This idea of having these beads strong on rope, can you tell us
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  the history of what how this originated?
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  And many people don't pray the rosary well.
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  The most important part of mental prayer or meditation is
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  to speak to Christ in that scene.
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  What was that room like, that room when Mary received this
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  message and she said yes to the Angel, yes to God, we're asking
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  to share in the incarnation, yes to what you're saying.
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  Because goosebumps. It is at the invocation of the
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  Angel Gabriel, when he says to the Virgin Mary, Hail full of
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  grace, where Mary says Thy will be done.
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  Let it be done to me according to thy word.
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  All of salvation history changes.
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  Gabe Castillo, welcome to the podcast.
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  Lila, thanks for having me. It's an honor to be on your
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  program. I consider you one of the best,
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  not only podcasters, but best female speakers in the Christian
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  space, and I want to thank you for doing such a good job of
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  representing the pro-life movement in circumstances that
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  are hostile. You've done beautifully.
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  You're an example of grace and truth and goodness.
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  So it's an honor to be here, seriously.
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  Thank you, Gabe. That's that's very kind.
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  It's pumped me up right up, right up.
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  Again, I love it. Thank you.
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  Well, I'm a big fan of what you're doing and how you're
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  using media. You've got a YouTube channel,
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  you've got an incredible story. You've got some, I'm going to
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  call it, campaigns that you're running, Let's call it that.
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  So a lot to unpack here. But first of all, who is Gabe
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  Castillo? I'm actually just figuring this
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  out now. So I grew up without a father,
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  and I didn't realize until recently how deeply that
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  impacted me. I grew up also without God,
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  which is a major downside. But then I didn't realize how
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  not having a father also impacted not having a
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  relationship with God. Because if you don't know about
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  God, at least you have a mother and a father who are kind of
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  like an image of the Trinity for you.
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  And so I'm just now discovering not only how deeply wounded I
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  have been by not having a father in my life, but then because I'm
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  like aware of this hole in my life, I really started looking
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  into the role of fatherhood, especially from the teachings of
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  Pope John Paul the 2nd and from the writings of Saint Paul.
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  I'm realizing that there's people with father wounds who
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  had fathers and they weren't living up to the revelation of
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  God the Father that all men are created to do.
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  And it's I think especially of that scripture verse where Saint
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  Paul says, husbands love your wives like Christ loved the
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  church and handed himself over. 4 I always forget this last
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  part. At least I did until recently
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  for her sanctification. And so Jesus is asking men to
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  sacrifice for their spouses and to pray for their spouses and to
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  offer Masses for their spouses and to pray the rosary for their
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  spouses to become Saints. And so I have not seen that in
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  very many couples and in families.
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  And so I think that people are more deeply wounded by a lack of
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  fatherhood than maybe they realize even.
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  What does that look like when you say like I'm saying who?
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  Gabe Castillo, he said, well, I'm figuring it out and I father
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  wounds. OK, What is what is that?
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  What does that look like for you?
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  So my wounds are seeing that I'm trying to prove myself and I'm
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  not knowing where this drive to try and prove myself is coming
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  from that realizing that because I, I'm like, why do I do the
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  things that I do? It's from not having a father
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  growing up and then just learning to love my wife and the
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  sacrifice for her and to pray for her to become a St. and to
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  grow in holiness and to offer. So now I got, I'm very
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  intentional about every mass at the consecration.
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  I'm praying for my wife to become a St. to go straight to
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  heaven at the hour of her death. And I pray at least one rosary
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  for my wife specifically every single day.
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  So it's beginning to define who I am.
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  But it really defined who I was when I was in high school.
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  Because not having God and not having a father to love my mom,
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  I was very confused about my meaning in life, my purpose, and
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  about sexuality. So I was trying to find meaning
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  and purpose from anywhere that I could.
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  And I was a latch key child, so my mom was working 2 jobs to try
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  and make ends meet, which is one of the effects of not having a
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  father in the home. And I was gaining my identity
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  from MTV, which at the time was just like there was a show
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  called Sex in the 90s, which was like so perverse, like so
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  perverse. And I accepted that as my
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  identity and my goal in life. And so I got, how old were you?
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  I was like 10th grade, 9th grade.
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  I was exposed to pornography in the eighth grade, but I didn't,
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  I wasn't like I didn't go towards it.
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  But then once I started hearing these programs say, you know,
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  sex with yourself and all sorts of other perversions, I was
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  like, well, pornography, that's great, that's moral, that's
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  fine. And so I got addicted to it very
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  strongly, very heavily. But the saving grace was that my
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  mom, although she didn't have God in her life and we didn't
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  have a father, she had a lot of practical wisdom and she was
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  very strict. So I didn't go off the rails as
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  badly as I could have. And my grades were really,
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  really good. So I graduated in the top 1% of
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  my high school. And so I got essentially a full
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  scholarship to the University of Saint Thomas, which is a very
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  good private Catholic school in Houston.
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  And I was forced to take core classes in philosophy and in
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  theology, and I had zero religious formation.
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  Zero. I made my first communion in the
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  eighth grade. I don't even know how that
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  happened, like they just gave me communion.
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  Would you go to Mass on Sundays? Growing up?
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  Definitely no. But you But your mom was
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  Catholic, but it wasn't. Like culturally Catholic,
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  basically she just prayed the Saint Jude novena whenever she
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  needed something. So she had she had left the
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  church for a long time and she says, I don't know, I wasn't
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  around. But I take her word for it that
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  the priest didn't want to baptize me because she wasn't
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  married. And so because of that, that
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  hurt her deeply. And that rejection from the
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  church made her in return reject the church.
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  And so there may have been more than that.
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  I don't know. It feels like there might be.
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  Were you baptized? I was baptized, Yeah, I was
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  baptized and I made my first communion when I was in the. 8th
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  Because that's not the Church's teaching.
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  Right. I agree.
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  Yeah, no, I know. Yeah, I tried to explain that
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  that. Priest was that Priest was
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  confused. Yeah, he was very confused.
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  So so were you. You were baptized as a newborn.
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  So I was baptized as a newborn and then just basically stayed
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  away from church until my grandmother died and it was her
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  dying wish that I made my first communion.
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  So I made my first communion and that was it.
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  We never went back to church. And only child.
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  Only child, single parent, yes. So it was like, and then there's
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  disorder that's involved in that as well, because usually a
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  mother and a father give each other attention and there was no
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  father for her to give attention to.
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  So I became like the center of her world, which was a little
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  bit disordered in a way. So there's just so much disorder
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  going on, but being accepted into the University of Saint
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  Thomas and taking the philosophy of the human person and intro to
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  Catholicism, I began to see that the Catholic Church, and this is
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  a great consolation for anybody who's considering being Catholic
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  or is questioning their faith. The Catholic Church objectively,
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  like you can look at it historically, you can look at it
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  scripturally, you can look at it theologically with an open mind
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  if you're searching. And it just makes so much sense.
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  And it made sense of especially what really struck me was
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  concupiscence. So my mom and I, we loved each
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  other. We were the only people that we
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  had in each other's lives to depend on.
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  But we were constantly fighting and like ugly fights where we'd
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  curse each other and like just say things that no parent should
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  say to a child and a child should say to a parent.
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  And I didn't want to hurt her. And I was, and the Church made
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  sense to me, like, well, you have a disordered inclination to
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  do bad things. We call that concupiscence,
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  pride of life, the concupiscence of the eyes, concupiscence of
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  the flesh. Like this makes so much.
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  Sense was that the first time you had really understood that.
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  That class of. College.
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  I've never heard any of this stuff like I had to take.
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  They had the core requirement of intro to Sacred Scripture.
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  I took it three times because I failed the first two times
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  because I had no idea who these people were, who the apostles
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  were like, and I'm a, I'm a youth minister full time now.
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  And that's the same thing. I'll get high school students
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  coming into my youth program and they won't know what a St. is.
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  They won't know who Jesus was. Like they know he's an important
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  person. They don't know that he had 12
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  apostles they don't know anything about.
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  So it's like I was basically experiencing what I now realize
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  is the overwhelming majority of Catholics, but I was so
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  convicted intellectually of Catholicism that I was like,
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  this is the truth. But I viewed the truth as a
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  philosophy. It wasn't a relationship with
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  Jesus Christ. I was still hooked on
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  pornography. I was trying to hook up with
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  every single girl that I could find or that would accept me.
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  For some reason, a lot of them realized that I was, you know, a
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  dirtbag at the time, but a religious sister gave me a brown
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  scapular. And maybe we'll talk about it
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  later. And looking back, I realized
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  that that was a turning point where grace slowly began to
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  enter into my heart. And shortly after that, a lot of
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  my friends who I was drinking with and partying with on not
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  only on the weekends, but every day of the week, they were going
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  to receive the sacrament of confirmation.
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  And so I thought to myself, I'm convicted of this stuff
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  philosophically, and they're just as bad as I am, so why
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  can't I also receive the sacrament of confirmation?
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  And part of that process was going on a retreat.
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  And on this particular night of the retreat, they said, we're
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  going to go and have Eucharistic adoration.
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  And I was like, OK, cool. What's that?
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  You're going to go look at Jesus and you're going to pray to him.
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  And I was like, what do you mean?
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  I'm going to look at Jesus? Like, I understood praying to
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  Jesus, but what am I going to look at him?
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  Like, we're going to look at pictures of Jesus and they're
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  like, no, in the Eucharist. I was like, again, what are you
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  talking about? Well, we believe that that
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  little white circle is Jesus Christ.
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  I was like, really? Yeah.
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  We. I was like, Are you sure?
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  The real Jesus Like, yeah, we believe that.
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  I was like, so can you tell me what exactly is going to happen
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  in this Chapel that we're going to?
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  Can you give me some instructions?
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  And this was my philosophy teacher at the time, so I really
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  trusted him. He's a great professor, Doctor
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  Ted Rebart. And he says, look, just go in
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  there, kneel down and repeat the name of Jesus.
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  And I was like for an hour. He's like, well, you don't have
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  to do the whole hour. So I went in, I knelt down for
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  about 10 minutes. I was just looking at the
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  Eucharist and repeating the name of Jesus in my mind.
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  And I was just like, OK, this is really dumb.
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  Jesus, Jesus, Jesus, Jesus. And then 10 minutes passes and I
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  hear an internal voice say, my son, be quiet.
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  And of course, like, I was like, OK, I'm starting to go crazy.
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  I'm just looking at the circle for too long.
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  And then I just kept repeating the name of Jesus for a couple
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  more minutes and then all of a sudden it wasn't audible.
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  But I've heard the same thing, my son, I love you.
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  Be quiet. But at the same time that I
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  heard it, it was as if God put his finger into my soul and
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  melted my icy heart and I just crumbled interiorly.
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  And as my heart melted, my face melted and like tears were just
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  streaming down my face and I was like crying.
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  The deepest SOB, the ugliest cry and looking back on it, it's
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  like as if every wound that I'd ever experienced to my life was
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  like ripped open and I was having interior mental pictures
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  of the passion of Christ. I had the movie hadn't come out
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  yet, so I didn't have this like idea that Jesus suffered and
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  died and, you know, experienced extreme torment.
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  But these images were in my mind and I just knew one God loved me
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  into this was really, really, really, truly, substantially.
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  This was really the person of Jesus Christ, the same person
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  who walked this earth 2000 years ago.
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  And afterwards my friends were like, are you OK?
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  Is everything going on? And I was not OK.
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  I was like, that is Jesus Christ like, yeah, we know.
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  I was like, no, you don't know. That is really, really, really
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  Jesus. And I have to live like, that's
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  really Jesus. Like I have to change my life.
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  And so I did. It became second nature for me
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  every single day to visit Jesus in the Chapel, as if he was
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  really and truly present. And my life, if my friends
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  didn't know where I was at, if I was not where I normally am,
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  they would be like, he's in the Chapel.
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  He's always in the Chapel. And I had a girlfriend at the
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  time and we weren't living a pure Christian life.
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  And I was even ready to break up with her because I asked her.
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  I was like, do you love Jesus in the Eucharist?
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  And she's like, of course I do. And I said, well, then why don't
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  you ever visit him? Why aren't you?
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  Why don't you go to Mass? Because I was going to daily
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  Mass, but at the same time I was living in mortal sin and not
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  trying to stop. Did you know that?
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  What that even was mortal sin? I I just knew I was doing bad
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  things that I wasn't living the life that God had called me to
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  my, again, my morality was very perverse.
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  I was actually reflecting this morning on how perverse it was
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  that I had had the idea to donate sperm to make money.
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  And one of the kids in campus ministry, like I was like
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  telling him this. I was like, dude, I got a great
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  idea to make money and he's like, are you crazy?
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  And I was like, what's wrong with it?
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  It's a great idea. And he's like, that's so
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  immoral. And I was like, how is that?
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  Like, I had no idea. Like my morality was so skewed.
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  So donate sperm meaning for like a sperm bank.
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  Yeah, I didn't know. I didn't know this.
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  I didn't know the business side of it about that.
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  I heard that you can make money doing that.
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  So my morality was way off track.
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  But at the same time, I was going to the Chapel every single
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  day, praying, going to Mass every single day.
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  I volunteered to become a Eucharistic minister.
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  And at the time, I saw my peers who were in campus ministry
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  because I was hanging, hanging out in campus ministry at the
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  time, I saw them as like, you know, Bible beaters, you know,
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  holy rollers. I was like very pessimistic
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  about them. But now I look back, I'm like,
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  man, thank goodness that they were so convicted of their faith
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  that one, they're willing to call me out.
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  And they even got the campus minister involved, who is a
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  religious sister, a great religious sister who I love from
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  the depths of my but. Call you out because like
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  obviously the sperm donation thing, it would be a.
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  Because I was living like a duplicitous life.
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  So you would be going and going to receive Holy Communion going
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  to mass like this Catholic guy? And distributing Holy Communion
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  at Mass. And doing sperm donations.
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  But I didn't actually do that, but like, all right, but going
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  to parties, drinking, OK, trying to hook up.
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  And they were on too. And they're like, who is this
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  guy? What is he doing?
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  Did you know when you would go to receive Holy Communion that
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  you weren't allowed to technically because of being
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  immortal? I I there was a disconnect.
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  It didn't. It didn't.
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  There was a disconnect. It did not click.
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  That's Firebreaker series.com. It just didn't.
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  It didn't click. It was a disconnect.
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  It did not click. But the campus minister, we were
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  having a meeting about Lent and what we were going to give up
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  for Lent. And I was still so oblivious.
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  I was like, for Lent, I'm going to give up chocolate.
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  And then she was like, no, like, no, you have to give up sin.
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  Like you have to stop. Like what's wrong with you and
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  so? What did you when people would,
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  when these people thank God for them, they were so direct with
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  you. What?
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  What? How did what were you offended?
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  How did you feel? I was like kind of confused.
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  I was like, oh, I didn't know that I was, I was I it was like
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  a mental I was like, I can't explain it.
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  I don't I it just it didn't offend me when the sister was
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  like, what's wrong with you? Like I was like, wow, it's a
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  good idea. So I mean, it sounds like it's
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  your conscience wasn't formed, you didn't.
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  Have the understanding. Which by the way, I know I
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  mentioned mortal sin just a moment ago.
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  For the soul to be in the state of mortal sin, they have to have
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  full knowledge as well as full consent.
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  Sounds like you didn't have full knowledge that what you were
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  doing was. At some point it doesn't
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  dislike. I knew that what I was doing was
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  bad and I was doing it anyways, but I think I might have
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  destroyed my conscience, especially concerning sins of
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  the flesh. And that day after the sister
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  confronted me and was like, dude, you need to like, you
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  cannot be living this life like people are reporting certain
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  things. And I went home.
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  I was like, you know what? I'm never going to look at
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  pornography again. And I'm not going to commit a
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  solitary sin like masturbation in that case.
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  And within 30 minutes, I fell back into mortal sin.
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  Like at that moment I broke down crying because one, I think God
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  gave me the grace of true contrition and I realized I have
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  a problem. Like I did not want to do this.
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  And when I was crying and I was expressing my sorrow to God
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  because I, I loved God, I was visiting him.
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  I was spending my time with him. I recognized my wickedness and
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  I, I verbally was praying. I said, Lord, I'm so sorry,
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  please forgive me. I have a problem.
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  I heard audibly of a very high pitched screeching ugly voice
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  that I can't even I couldn't even try to replicate it with my
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  own human voice in my ears. Audibly I heard the exact same
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  words that I was praying to God but in a mocking voice and I
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  don't know what got into me, the Holy Spirit or my guardian
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  Angel. Something prompted me, and I
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  immediately said, St. John Vianney, pray for me.
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  Did you know who that was? I don't think so.
• 18:53
  Maybe I'd heard his name before, but I only learned later that he
• 18:57
  had been somebody who fought with the devil and was getting
• 19:00
  attacked by him. And immediately when I said
• 19:02
  those words, that voice went away.
• 19:05
  So the next day, I went to campus ministry.
• 19:07
  I didn't tell the sister what had happened, but I think she
• 19:11
  knew that something had gotten into me.
• 19:12
  And I said, is can I get a pamphlet on the rosary?
• 19:14
  And I need a rosary. And I took it home because I was
• 19:17
  afraid, because the last time I went to bed, I had heard a scary
• 19:20
  voice. So on my bed, I opened the
• 19:23
  pamphlet and I began to see, OK, well, how do you pray this
• 19:26
  thing? I believe in the moment that I
• 19:28
  said I believe a force physically grabbed me, pinned me
• 19:31
  on my bed, held me down by my shoulders and was choking me.
• 19:36
  So I can't, I don't even know. I didn't know how to even
• 19:40
  process that other than to scream for my mom to help me and
• 19:44
  I couldn't get words out. I was like.
• 19:47
  We were 21. How?
• 19:48
  Old I was about probably 2021 yeah I heard of interior voice
• 19:53
  tell me to pray and I and then I heard an interior voice but it
• 19:57
  was this was like in my mind so I believe this was my guardian
• 19:59
  Angel and said pray the Hail Mary and.
• 20:02
  Do it interiorly, like it wasn't like I heard with my ears.
• 20:05
  I just understood. And so I began to pray the Hail
• 20:07
  Mary in my mind and I felt a little bit of a release.
• 20:11
  And then I was finally able to like, I felt like a, like my, my
• 20:14
  throat was being like let go of. And so I got the words out Mary.
• 20:20
  And when I got the name of Mary out, everything went totally
• 20:23
  back to normal. Force went away.
• 20:25
  And that was probably one of the greatest, most greatest
• 20:29
  blessings I could have received from God because I knew for a
• 20:34
  fact that I, when I had a problem, and my problem was a
• 20:37
  spiritual problem, that all of this stuff about demons and hell
• 20:41
  and all of that stuff is real. And the power of the Virgin Mary
• 20:45
  is immeasurably real because I was living in mortal sin, taking
• 20:51
  communion unworthily. I was a bad person.
• 20:54
  And I called upon her name, and she helped me regardless of how
• 20:58
  wretched I was. And afterwards, because I was so
• 21:02
  confused and scared, I just went online and I was like typing in
• 21:05
  everything that had happened. And I came across a website that
• 21:08
  was immensely helpful. That doesn't exist anymore, but
• 21:11
  you can find the remnants of it called the Padre Pio Center for
• 21:14
  Deliverance. And on the website they had,
• 21:17
  they listed it, they called them hooks, Little intrinsically bad
• 21:24
  things that the devil will use to infiltrate a person.
• 21:27
  And the hooks were pornography, artificial contraception, rated
• 21:32
  R movies, all sorts of stuff. And I had most of the things on
• 21:37
  the checklist. We had father Carlos Martins on
• 21:40
  the show a couple months ago. He and I are good buddies.
• 21:42
  You know him, but they was talking about that.
• 21:45
  He's like, well, what are the danger zones for just your
• 21:48
  everyday person that can welcome in the demonic without even
• 21:51
  intending to? And he was saying honestly,
• 21:53
  besides witchcraft or Wicca or whatever that world occult
• 21:56
  stuff, it's sexual sin. And that's what we're totally
• 22:00
  swimming in in our culture. It's like sexual sin is not just
• 22:03
  something that happens. It's almost expected of people
• 22:06
  as a normal thing to do. Like you're supposed to be
• 22:08
  having sex outside of marriage. That's normal.
• 22:11
  And so of course, there's a lot of, I think, demonic oppression.
• 22:15
  And and now like you say that people aren't even ashamed of
• 22:18
  it. And before you'd like, if you
• 22:20
  looked at pornography, people, your friends would be like,
• 22:22
  what's wrong with you? But now they're like sharing it
• 22:24
  with each other and it's just not.
• 22:26
  Our culture is so backwards when it comes to purity in God's plan
• 22:30
  for sex and marriage. So after that incredible
• 22:32
  encounter where you experience the power of asking for Mary's
• 22:36
  house when you're getting attacked by a demon, it sounds
• 22:39
  like, I mean, it's incredible. What did your conversion process
• 22:43
  look like to get out of that lifestyle and those habits?
• 22:46
  Because I mean, we've, we've have talked about sexual
• 22:48
  addiction on the show. And I don't know if that's
• 22:49
  something that you were dealing with directly, but you know,
• 22:52
  sometimes there's. Both.
• 22:53
  I think it was spiritual and a physical addiction.
• 22:56
  And so immediately I got rid of all of those, like that night I
• 22:59
  got rid of everything I could. And then the next day my mom
• 23:03
  went to work and I got rid of all the bad things that she had.
• 23:06
  She had a lot of New Age books and Buddhist statues and things
• 23:09
  that were of false gods. And I just destroyed them all.
• 23:14
  And in my house, I started putting up a bunch of holy
• 23:17
  pictures and putting holy music and I would have EWTN's audio
• 23:21
  library going even when I wasn't home.
• 23:23
  Thank you. EWTN.
• 23:24
  Yes I had EWTN audio like the lives.
• 23:26
  Of the same. Mother Angelica, Bob and Penny
• 23:29
  Lord all my computer playing non-stop so.
• 23:33
  Does your mother know you were doing this while she was at
• 23:34
  work? Doing what?
• 23:36
  Throwing away Oliver's. She didn't know.
• 23:37
  She found out and she was not happy because I went overboard.
• 23:41
  She had a lot of elephants in the house and she just liked
• 23:43
  elephants, but I thought she had too many elephants.
• 23:46
  Oh my God, I was like, this is superstitious why we got so many
• 23:49
  elephants in? Oh my gosh.
• 23:50
  Yeah, so it was it was it was over.
• 23:53
  It was over the top. I, I overreacted, but I cleansed
• 23:57
  the house and then I went through the process of starting
• 24:02
  to pray the rosary and going to confession a lot when especially
• 24:07
  when I first had like this realization that I am, I'm a
• 24:11
  mess and I'm a slave to my passions and maybe even to
• 24:15
  diabolical obsessions. I, you know, so sometimes I had
• 24:19
  to go to confession like the next day.
• 24:21
  But with prayer, with receiving the sacrament of confession, it
• 24:27
  gives you the grace to overcome that Slowly you begin to sin
• 24:30
  less and less and less, provided you don't quit.
• 24:33
  And I noticed that when I prayed the rosary specifically, I had a
• 24:37
  strength. I would still be tempted, but I
• 24:39
  wasn't tempted as strongly. And I began to pray sometimes 3
• 24:45
  rosaries, 4 rosaries I didn't have like a rule.
• 24:48
  I didn't say I'm doing this every single day.
• 24:50
  I just noticed it when I prayed more, the temptation was less
• 24:54
  and I still had the habit of going to the Chapel.
• 24:57
  So now as I'm going to the Chapel and I'm praying the
• 25:00
  rosary, I begin to, yes, sin last, but I also begin to hear
• 25:05
  the voice of God. Not like audibly where you'd
• 25:07
  say, oh, he's a Mystic or something, but just like the way
• 25:09
  God speaks in the depths of your heart about what he wanted me to
• 25:12
  do with my life. I felt like he was calling to me
• 25:15
  to go into religious education, to give back, to teach middle
• 25:19
  schoolers, to teach high school religion, to try and maybe help
• 25:23
  other young people to avoid the pitfalls that I had fallen into.
• 25:28
  And this was all in college. Is all in college, yeah.
• 25:30
  So I have a question about this because I and it and I'm, I'm
• 25:34
  going to guess the people listening, there are people that
• 25:37
  they know. I mean, I think all of us know
• 25:39
  someone who has struggled with a sex addiction.
• 25:42
  It is everywhere, people, maybe even people listening.
• 25:44
  I would say the overwhelming majority of people have a sexual
• 25:47
  addiction. It's, it's crazy, right?
• 25:49
  And our culture is basically designed to give people this
• 25:51
  addiction because it exposes sexual, you know, porno material
• 25:54
  to kids at a young age And and then, you know, the whole thing
• 25:57
  happens. So and then you're in school,
• 25:59
  you know, you literally have Planned Parenthood, who runs
• 26:01
  school curriculum on sex and sex Ed and it's basically you should
• 26:05
  masturbate. I mean you should self.
• 26:08
  Abuse. You're not You're not healthy
• 26:09
  unless you. Do yeah, it's so it's really
• 26:11
  dark. I am curious your thoughts on
• 26:13
  this because you know we're we have we work we like covenant
• 26:17
  eyes as an example is one of our sponsors.
• 26:19
  And so shout out to covenant eyes, but different ways to deal
• 26:22
  with, you know, sexual addiction temptation, all of this stuff.
• 26:26
  But I have heard it said that these things can also be over
• 26:30
  spiritualized in the sense that we have to work within the
• 26:32
  natural order. And if there really is a
• 26:34
  compulsion when it comes to sexual addiction of some kind,
• 26:39
  it is not just a spiritual problem.
• 26:41
  It's a sort of like, you know, psychological and physical
• 26:44
  problem. In addition.
• 26:45
  I don't know if you have any take on that and and advice for
• 26:48
  people because I think some people are like, I'm praying,
• 26:51
  I'm trying to pray it away, but I'm struggling.
• 26:54
  And you know, we have to use natural means as well as the
• 26:57
  supernatural means. Yeah, it's, I really believe
• 27:01
  it's both. And.
• 27:02
  And so when I say that the rosary gave me a strength, I
• 27:05
  believe that it was also because I was getting spiritual attacks.
• 27:09
  So I had a natural addiction because they're the dopamine and
• 27:13
  the oxytocin that comes when you have sexual climax.
• 27:17
  So I had that and I needed to implement practical tips.
• 27:22
  But then I also believed that I was having spiritual attacks
• 27:25
  because of the things that I'd open myself up to.
• 27:28
  And for people who are struggling with impurity, I have
• 27:32
  found, and this comes just when you go to confession and you
• 27:35
  make an examination of your conscience and you look at where
• 27:38
  you fell. Usually you weren't just walking
• 27:42
  and then you start looking at pornography.
• 27:43
  Usually there is a succession of little steps that lead up to it.
• 27:47
  You, you take a second glance at somebody who's dressed
• 27:50
  immodestly. Then you go on YouTube and you
• 27:53
  look up something that has that you know is going to excite you.
• 27:56
  And then you take it to the next step.
• 27:58
  And then you go and look at pornography.
• 28:00
  And what I found in addition to praying, but especially
• 28:03
  beneficial to me was to begin to confess or to examine where I
• 28:08
  started to go astray to how often was I looking at taking a
• 28:13
  second glance at a person. And when you start to examine
• 28:16
  that and you keep it close to your heart, you don't, you don't
• 28:20
  go as far because you're correcting yourself earlier.
• 28:24
  It's not, it's definitely not all spiritual and it's
• 28:26
  definitely not all practical. It's a both and it's a whole
• 28:28
  person that needs to be worked on.
• 28:31
  But Our Lady will help. I I've found and we can get
• 28:35
  there in a moment, but I have found because I do, I'm a high
• 28:37
  school youth minister and most of my teens come to me, I would
• 28:42
  say most with no religious education whatsoever and
• 28:46
  addictions because they grew up in the world and they have
• 28:49
  access to pornography. And that's one of the main
• 28:52
  reasons I think why pornography addiction is so prevalent is
• 28:55
  because if you even get tempted, you had like even in the heat of
• 28:59
  a moment, you have access to it on your phone and nobody's going
• 29:02
  to know. It can be your little hidden
• 29:04
  thing and you can live a duplicitous life.
• 29:06
  But I have found in young people who take up the rosary is kind
• 29:10
  of like a way of life that they they overcome it.
• 29:15
  They might be struggling frequently and then slowly after
• 29:20
  a month or two, they're falling into mortal sin is less and less
• 29:25
  into the point where they are now evangelizing their peers and
• 29:29
  trying to help them and get them through this.
• 29:31
  As I began to pray more and hear the voice of God and prayer
• 29:34
  more, I went into Catholic education.
• 29:37
  And this was around the time where Steve Jobs was introducing
• 29:41
  the first iPhone. I love Steve Jobs.
• 29:42
  He's a very inspiring person to me, even though he lived a
• 29:44
  morally questionable life. And I began to notice in my
• 29:48
  students that as they get iPhones and there's social media
• 29:53
  and, you know, web browsers, now they have access to it.
• 29:56
  They don't have the tools and they weren't responding to me as
• 30:01
  a teacher, as a teacher of religion.
• 30:02
  They weren't praying more. They weren't changing their
• 30:05
  behavior. They were still, some of them
• 30:07
  were bullying still. I realized that I was an
• 30:10
  ineffective teacher. I was failing at what I thought
• 30:13
  God was calling me part. Because of the iPhone.
• 30:16
  No, just because they are corrupt children.
• 30:18
  They are corrupt, OK, They are good.
• 30:20
  Kids in a kind of But they were. It was tough.
• 30:23
  You're saying they were not listening?
• 30:24
  They were not listening, and I think every parent can kind of
• 30:26
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  So it was all God's Providence. I had been invited on a retreat
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  and it was to see some, this priest who was leading it was
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  claimed to have had special gifts from the Holy Spirit to
• 31:58
  read souls and could be able to just, he, he was supposed to be
• 32:04
  a very holy priest. And so I went on this retreat
• 32:07
  and he was encouraging everybody at the retreat to make a general
• 32:10
  confession, which is a confession of sins, of all of
• 32:14
  the grave evils that you've ever committed your entire life.
• 32:17
  He was and, and people should know you don't make a general
• 32:20
  confession Willy nilly or frequently.
• 32:22
  It's maybe like a once or twice in your lifetime type of thing.
• 32:25
  And the benefits of it is to see how God's mercy has penetrated
• 32:30
  your life and to be thankful for what God has done in your life.
• 32:35
  And so I made a general confession of my entire life and
• 32:38
  I was bawling and sobbing throughout it because I at this
• 32:41
  point in my life, I was pretty good.
• 32:43
  Like I wasn't falling into mortal sin.
• 32:46
  Maybe it was like be a one off. So I was doing really well.
• 32:49
  But to look back on my life and to see how many people that I've
• 32:53
  hurt, to see how many times I fell into sin, I just felt
• 32:57
  really guilty when I was confessing.
• 32:59
  And the priest was like, well, your penance is very light
• 33:02
  because since your last confession, you really haven't
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  done anything too bad. But consider praying all of the
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  mysteries of the rosary every single day for an entire year in
• 33:12
  reparation for all of the evil that you've done and all the
• 33:15
  evil that you've spread and all the people that you've LED
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  astray. You don't have to do it, but
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  consider it. And if you do choose to do that,
• 33:23
  don't ever look back again. Say, Blessed Mother, I'm praying
• 33:27
  this time for a year for you to bring good out of all of my
• 33:30
  mistakes. I'm petitioning you to give
• 33:32
  grace to these individuals that I've hurt and then never look
• 33:36
  back. And so I accepted that offer and
• 33:40
  I began to live the rosary throughout the day.
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  I pray a rosary in the morning when I woke up.
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  I pray a rosary midday. I would pray a rosary in the
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  early afternoon, and I would pray a rosary before bed.
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  And my life dramatically changed.
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  OK, so I, there's a lot I have to ask about this, especially
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  because a lot of folks who listen to the show are not
• 33:57
  Catholic. So we get into Catholic stuff
• 33:59
  and thank you for those that are patient for your patience.
• 34:02
  Patience when I do this on this show, we talk about a lot of
• 34:04
  things. But of course you guys know I'm
• 34:05
  Catholic and I'm very passionate.
• 34:07
  You're obviously very passionate about your Catholic faith and
• 34:09
  it's just about God. We all, I think everyone who
• 34:11
  listens to the show is seeking God.
• 34:13
  So what is the rosary? And you mentioned you pray for
• 34:18
  rosaries. Are you still doing this?
• 34:20
  Oh yeah, I'm praying a little bit more than that.
• 34:21
  Yeah, OK. Oh, wow.
• 34:22
  OK. Yeah, this is a full time rosary
• 34:24
  prayer and. We, yeah, it's kind of a little
• 34:27
  bit longer story, but yes, the rosary, I have been convinced,
• 34:31
  thoroughly convinced that it is theologically the most profound
• 34:35
  spiritual prayer for any Christian, not just for a
• 34:38
  Catholic that exists. And I pray it not because it's a
• 34:43
  pious thing anymore. I pray because I don't know of a
• 34:45
  better prayer that exists and I cannot come up with one.
• 34:48
  For those who are not familiar or maybe they've heard,
• 34:50
  obviously the rosary, everyone's heard of a rosary, but what is
• 34:54
  the rosary composed of? So I like to joke that the first
• 34:58
  ingredient of the rosary is death because it does require a
• 35:02
  certain like, like there's like, I'll be honest, there's very few
• 35:06
  times where I really want to pray it.
• 35:09
  I know that I need to, I can notice in myself that I'm
• 35:12
  getting edgy or antsy. So the first component of
• 35:15
  praying the rosary is a certain self denial that Christ asks of
• 35:19
  us. One of the secrets to holiness.
• 35:21
  As an aside, one of the secrets to holiness and the secrets to
• 35:24
  happiness is doing God's will for your life, discerning what
• 35:27
  God is calling you to do and doing it.
• 35:29
  That is the essence of holiness, to be united to Christ.
• 35:31
  But so often Christians don't do God's will because they don't
• 35:36
  want to or because they have. They don't know what God's will
• 35:38
  is. They haven't asked God.
• 35:41
  And So what the rosary, the very onset forces you to do is stop
• 35:46
  doing what you want to do and be attentive to the voice of God,
• 35:49
  which is like the very first ingredient is the choice to
• 35:51
  pray, then the prayers, the vocal prayers of the rosary, the
• 35:55
  Our Father, the Hail Mary. It's kind of like stirring up a
• 35:58
  whirlwind of the Holy Spirit by praying the prayer that the Lord
• 36:01
  taught by saying the Hail Mary. I know a lot of our Protestant
• 36:05
  brothers and sisters don't like that idea of praying the Hail
• 36:07
  Mary. But if you think about it
• 36:09
  objectively, those are the most sacred words in the history of
• 36:12
  humanity. It is at the invocation of the
• 36:15
  Angel Gabriel when he says to the Virgin Mary, Hail full of
• 36:18
  grace. It is that moment that all of
• 36:23
  salvation history changes, where Mary says Thy will be done, let
• 36:27
  it be done to me according to Thy word.
• 36:29
  The Holy Spirit comes upon her, fills her, the second person of
• 36:34
  the Holy Trinity takes on flesh, and God enters the world and
• 36:38
  hope enters humanity. Those words always call down the
• 36:42
  power of the Holy Spirit. Those words always tug on the
• 36:45
  heart of God the Father. Those words always get the
• 36:48
  attention of every Angel. Those the angels have been
• 36:50
  waiting since the fall of Adam and Eve for those words to be
• 36:54
  proclaimed. So it sounds like it's very
• 36:56
  Marian and it is, but it's Christocentric.
• 36:59
  And so when you say those words and the our Fathers, that isn't
• 37:05
  the rosary. The heart of the rosary is
• 37:08
  spending time with Christ in the mysteries of his life.
• 37:12
  So I'll have my rosary beads out because I always carry them.
• 37:15
  And this is kind of like a tour of the life of Christ.
• 37:20
  And many people don't pray the rosary.
• 37:23
  Well, we use the word meditate on the mysteries.
• 37:28
  In my research to the various doctors of the Church, Teresa of
• 37:32
  Avila, John of the Cross, St. Alphonsus Saguari, Saint Francis
• 37:36
  de Sales, they will use the word mental prayer and meditation
• 37:41
  interchangeably within a couple of sentences of one another.
• 37:44
  And So what they mean when they're saying and what I
• 37:49
  believe Our Lady meant when she revealed this to Saint Dominic,
• 37:51
  to meditate upon the mystery is to 1.
• 37:56
  Make an act of faith that God is present.
• 37:57
  This is these are the steps of mental prayer.
• 37:59
  Make an act of faith. God, I believe you're present.
• 38:01
  I believe you're close to me. You're holding me into
• 38:02
  existence. I'm a temple of the Holy Spirit.
• 38:04
  To imagine to the best of your ability, the scene.
• 38:09
  Let's say for example, we're imagining the birth of the child
• 38:13
  Jesus in Bethlehem. So I would imagine a fat baby
• 38:16
  Jesus of just a chubbiest, cutest little person and imagine
• 38:20
  as if you're holding him or that you're there, you're a part of
• 38:23
  the scene. But the most important part of
• 38:28
  mental prayer or meditation is to speak to Christ in that
• 38:33
  scene. So for example, let's say you
• 38:36
  have a financial difficulty, you're praying the third joyful
• 38:39
  mystery of the Rosary. You're holding the fat baby
• 38:42
  Jesus. How long should I think about
• 38:45
  fat baby Jesus? The Saints say until it makes an
• 38:48
  impression on you and it can be any, any aspect of fat child.
• 38:53
  So just looking at fat feet, you know, fat baby feet that look
• 38:56
  like a loaf of bread, like you could just think of that.
• 38:59
  And when that makes an impression, you're like, oh, God
• 39:02
  became a man and had fat baby loaf feet.
• 39:05
  Now I can begin my conversation with Christ and just say, Lord,
• 39:09
  I need money. Good baby, you have no concept
• 39:12
  of money. Can I have some money?
• 39:14
  And then the so the first step of prayer is recollection,
• 39:18
  activate in the presence of God. The second step of prayer is
• 39:22
  consideration or meditation. The third step is conversation.
• 39:25
  But the conversation doesn't end when I tell baby Jesus I need
• 39:29
  money. I have to pause for a moment and
• 39:33
  allow the Lord to move in my heart.
• 39:35
  And that's different for different people, but I would.
• 39:38
  I've had this happen to me before.
• 39:40
  I'm praying to fat baby Jesus. Lord, I need money.
• 39:43
  And then I look into his beautiful brown eyes.
• 39:45
  I'm imagining them. Of course.
• 39:46
  I don't know what his eyes look like, but I'm imagining it.
• 39:49
  And I sense him. And the stirrings of my heart
• 39:52
  say you're holding me, and I trust you to hold me.
• 39:56
  Do you trust me to hold you? And yes, it's my imagination,
• 40:02
  but something happens in the depths of my soul.
• 40:04
  That changes me, and God communicates through movements
• 40:07
  of the soul, through what we call consolations.
• 40:10
  So that process, once you know it, recollection, consideration,
• 40:14
  conversation, once you practice it and you practice it very well
• 40:18
  in the rosary takes about 30 seconds.
• 40:21
  And when you start to pray the rosary like that, when you're
• 40:23
  having an encounter with the person of Christ and all the
• 40:26
  various aspects of his life mixed with the our Father, mixed
• 40:30
  with the prayer, the Hail Mary, which was the beginning of the
• 40:33
  end of Satan because Christ became word Incarnate on this
• 40:37
  earth. That to me, that scientific like
• 40:41
  does a prayer that has all of those elements exist like I
• 40:45
  don't know one where I'm in the presence of Christ, stirring up
• 40:48
  a whirlwind of the Holy Spirit around me like it's.
• 40:51
  So I love so much of what you're saying.
• 40:53
  There's so much to unpack here. I mean, starting with what you
• 40:56
  were saying, I mean, there's the our Father at the beginning of
• 40:58
  each of the decades, the five decades of the, of the rosary.
• 41:01
  And then you have the 10 Hail Marys and they have the glory
• 41:03
  be. But starting with the Our
• 41:04
  Father, this is the perfect prayer, right?
• 41:05
  Jesus literally tells us this is how you pray.
• 41:07
  Everybody so like to pray the Our Father, not just once a day,
• 41:11
  but throughout the day. This is the prayer that God
• 41:13
  himself gave us. There's one prayer, it's this
• 41:16
  prayer and then you were saying about the, the greeting of the
• 41:20
  Angel to Mary. And I love what you're saying
• 41:23
  about the Holy Spirit. He's, he's coming upon Mary.
• 41:26
  This is how Jesus Christ comes into the world incredibly.
• 41:30
  And I can you just, I guess it's like sense for a moment, like
• 41:33
  what would, what was the room like that room when Mary
• 41:36
  received this message and she said yes to the Angel, yes to
• 41:40
  God, to be the mother of God, mother of Jesus, like the
• 41:43
  intensity of the experience of the Holy Spirit in that room,
• 41:46
  like the, it was just, I can't even, it was mind blowing.
• 41:50
  But of course Mary had that experience.
• 41:53
  And so we're, we're asking to share in, we're asking to share
• 41:57
  in the incarnation. Really.
• 41:59
  I mean, that's what you're saying because, because the
• 42:02
  whole, you know, the rosary, it's the life of Christ, all the
• 42:04
  scenes of his life, all of the different mysteries.
• 42:07
  And so you're asking to be there with him in his life and then
• 42:11
  his death, his passion, his death, and then his
• 42:14
  resurrection, his into eternity. And what is The Who?
• 42:18
  Who is the Christian that doesn't do that?
• 42:21
  Like how do we do Christianity without entering into the life
• 42:26
  of Christ? I mean, right.
• 42:28
  I mean, we can't to me. It's like, it's pretty
• 42:30
  incredible. Like it sounds great as long as
• 42:33
  people don't see it as that's something that Catholics do.
• 42:35
  Like, no, it's a good prayer for all Christians.
• 42:38
  I mean, it's the Gospels. Yeah, it's the Gospels.
• 42:39
  It's the Gospel, the the the rosary is the Gospels.
• 42:43
  And I often would ponder, because, you know, they say Mary
• 42:46
  pondered all these things in her heart.
• 42:47
  I would ponder what did she pondered the most?
• 42:50
  And I would think to myself, maybe it was a Eucharist, maybe
• 42:52
  it was a crucifixion. But then as I was praying the
• 42:56
  rosary, it dawned on me she pondered the incarnation the
• 42:59
  most because without God becoming man, he can't be
• 43:03
  crucified. Without God becoming man, we
• 43:05
  can't receive him in Holy Communion.
• 43:07
  When she looked at him when he was sucking on her breast, she
• 43:10
  thought to herself, God became man and I am nursing him.
• 43:14
  God became man and he is playing outside right now.
• 43:17
  God became man and he's hanging on the cross like so to.
• 43:21
  For people who might feel like it's a lot of Hail Marys, Yeah.
• 43:25
  And if you're uncomfortable saying the Hail Mary, you can
• 43:28
  just say the first half of it. Hail Mary full of grace.
• 43:31
  The Lord is with thee. Blessed art thou amongst women,
• 43:33
  and blessed is the fruit of thy womb, Jesus.
• 43:34
  If you feel uncomfortable saying Holy Mary Mother of God, pray
• 43:38
  for us sinners now like. Just say the first part.
• 43:40
  If you're just if you're uncomfortable.
• 43:42
  With it. But the other thing is, like all
• 43:43
  generations will call me blessed.
• 43:45
  Yeah, I mean that that like Mary predicts that all generations
• 43:49
  will call me blessed if not for the rosary.
• 43:52
  Practically, what does that even mean?
• 43:54
  Right? How would that predict create me
• 43:56
  insight? Great insight.
• 43:57
  Because that's what we do. We say Hail Mary, full of grace.
• 44:00
  We're calling her blessed with every bead.
• 44:02
  We pray. And I have a lot of Protestant
• 44:04
  friends and I from whenever they lose a loved one, they will tell
• 44:09
  me things like I know my grandfather's watching over me
• 44:12
  in heaven. Like I know he's I know he's by
• 44:14
  my side. He's like my Angel.
• 44:15
  And I don't correct him. It's like, well, he's actually
• 44:17
  like you're St. but so there is a deep down belief that their
• 44:22
  loved one is alive in Christ that they have.
• 44:24
  If they're watching over you, what does that mean?
• 44:27
  They're protecting you somehow they're interceding for you.
• 44:30
  So I don't think that there's a disconnect.
• 44:32
  I think that it's maybe might be like a our team doesn't do that
• 44:36
  sometimes kind of like attitude. But I think that if you just
• 44:39
  look at it from an unbiased perspective, it's pretty great.
• 44:45
  So you mentioned Mary giving this to Saint Dominic.
• 44:48
  Yes, yes. What can you share about what
• 44:51
  happened? Because even the idea of this
• 44:53
  like. Hold it up for us again, please.
• 44:55
  Yeah, my weapon. So the Lila Rose podcasts have a
• 44:57
  special rosary that we have in the shop we're gonna lie to.
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  Shops. But that's that is like a
• 45:01
  hardcore. Rosary got good taste and style
• 45:04
  so I'm sure the Lila rose Lila rose rosary.
• 45:06
  And have roses on it, of course, but but if you don't mind
• 45:09
  holding up, so you've got the crucifix with this is where you
• 45:12
  do the Creed, right? And then the Our Father hail
• 45:14
  mares. And then there's the five
• 45:15
  decades. Mine is covered in little.
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  Medallions of my favorite Saints.
• 45:19
  I'd love the zeal gave it's amazing.
• 45:22
  But so this idea of having these beads strong on rope, right or
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  using the code Lila at checkout. So originally there were there
• 46:11
  and and many religions have beads on ropes to keep track of
• 46:14
  various prayers that people pray.
• 46:16
  And so prior to the introduction of the Rosary by the Blessed
• 46:20
  Mother to Saint Dominic, there was a kind of a rosary because
• 46:24
  religious would pray the Liturgy of the Hours, which is the
• 46:27
  Psalms, 150 of them throughout the day.
• 46:30
  Lay people at this time couldn't read so that they didn't know
• 46:33
  the Psalms and so they would pray our Fathers Hail Marys or
• 46:37
  other prayers depending on which region they were from.
• 46:40
  So they would pray the Hail Mary before the introduction of the
• 46:42
  Rosary. Right.
• 46:43
  Yeah, some. Some would pray 150 of them.
• 46:45
  So we would. But was it did include pray for
• 46:47
  us now in the hour of our. Or death, or just the first part
• 46:50
  of the first part. The angels greeting was up until
• 46:53
  Pope Pius the 5th during the Battle of Lepanto and the
• 46:58
  Council of Trent. He added the second-half of the
• 47:00
  Hail Mary. So well after the introduction
• 47:02
  of the Rosary to Saint Dominic, because I think that was like in
• 47:05
  the 13th century, it was into the 16th century that we started
• 47:08
  praying the Holy Mary, Mother of God first, now at the hour of
• 47:12
  our death. So that was like the later add
• 47:13
  on. That was after the Battle of the
• 47:15
  Ponto. Or around that time, Yeah, it
• 47:17
  was around that time, definitely introduced by Pius the 5th, so
• 47:20
  maybe before. Do you know why he did that?
• 47:22
  I have no idea, but I think I think it's a pretty good idea,
• 47:26
  though. It's actually pretty, pretty
• 47:27
  genius because you're asking Mary to pray for you now and at
• 47:31
  the hour of your death. So if you prayed 50 Hail Marys
• 47:34
  today and tomorrow and tomorrow for 365 days times 50 years of
• 47:38
  your life, when you die, you're going to have hundreds of
• 47:41
  thousands of Hail Marys coming to you at the hour of your
• 47:44
  death, which is a very, you know, important moment.
• 47:48
  And so, like, Our Lady's just going to be, like, present, like
• 47:51
  just raining down graces upon you from a lifetime of prayers.
• 47:54
  So it's a pretty brilliant addition.
• 47:57
  Yeah. But I can't, other than it's
• 47:59
  being brilliant, I can't think of anything else.
• 48:01
  He doubled the length of it. So moderns, sometimes moderns
• 48:05
  who are very trad and they're against new things, they will be
• 48:10
  against the Luminous Mysteries and against Pope John Paul the
• 48:12
  2nd. And they will say things like
• 48:13
  how dare Pope John Paul the Second that's so prideful to add
• 48:18
  to whatever the Mary gave. That's perfect.
• 48:21
  But by that same logic, we shouldn't be praying the
• 48:24
  second-half of the Hail Mary, because when Mary gave the
• 48:26
  rosary to Saint Dominic, it was just the first half of the Hail
• 48:30
  Mary it was not. This is so inside baseball for
• 48:32
  people. But no, no, what you're saying
• 48:34
  it's it's great, it's fun, but Saint John Paul the second our
• 48:37
  Pope, he he gave us the luminous, luminous mysteries.
• 48:41
  He introduced them for the church, which is certain parts
• 48:44
  of Jesus's ministry, like his ministerial life, his public
• 48:47
  ministry life when the other mysteries and the other
• 48:50
  rosaries, because there's 4 right.
• 48:52
  You have the joint look, you give them to us.
• 48:54
  So originally introduced by the Virgin Mary or that she
• 48:57
  requested of Saint Dominic where the joyful mysteries which
• 49:00
  covered the Annunciation through Jesus's childhood and it ends
• 49:03
  with. So when the Angel Gabriel's
• 49:04
  announcing Jesus? Christ, Sumerian of the Rosary.
• 49:07
  Conceives Jesus. That's the beginning of the
• 49:09
  first rosary. Yeah.
• 49:10
  And then the there's five mysteries that you can pray that
• 49:14
  we call them the joyful. And it ends with finding the
• 49:16
  child Jesus after he was lost in the temple.
• 49:19
  Then in the original rosary it would go to the Sorrowful
• 49:21
  Mysteries, which is the Passion of Jesus, and then it would go
• 49:25
  into the Glorious Mysteries which involved the resurrection,
• 49:27
  ascension, descent of the Holy Spirit.
• 49:28
  So there was a major gap in the life of Christ.
• 49:31
  And one of the genius parts of the Rosary is that my children
• 49:36
  at the age of 10, because we prayed the rosary every day as a
• 49:39
  family, knew more about the life of Christ than many adults
• 49:43
  because they prayed the rosary they got, they covered Jesus
• 49:46
  from his childhood all the way to his adulthood.
• 49:49
  John Paul the Second adding those luminous mysteries, those
• 49:52
  public ministry days actually did something again
• 49:55
  theologically profound because the baptism of Jesus, the
• 50:01
  wedding feast of Cana St. John the Baptist.
• 50:04
  The proclamation of the Kingdom, the transfiguration, and the
• 50:07
  institution of the Eucharist are all things that are under attack
• 50:10
  right now in the Church. And so by meditating upon those
• 50:14
  mysteries, there's a saying in theology.
• 50:16
  A grace remembered is a grace renewed.
• 50:18
  So by meditating on baptism, meditating on the sacrament of
• 50:21
  holy Matrimony, meditating on the importance of preaching,
• 50:24
  meditating on the divinity of Christ, meditating on the
• 50:26
  institution of the Eucharist and the priesthood, what he's doing
• 50:29
  in prayer is renewing all of those aspects of the Church.
• 50:33
  What's so powerful about what you're saying gave it so good?
• 50:36
  And it's also very convicting, even for me because I think
• 50:40
  about when I pray the rosary, we pray a decade each night with
• 50:42
  our very young children. I mean, it would be great if we
• 50:45
  did the whole thing, but we get through a decade with our very
• 50:47
  young kids. But just the importance of
• 50:50
  connecting it to a mystery because I think in my I'll just
• 50:55
  share my own life of praying the rosary.
• 50:57
  And I know I've observed in many people's it's part of a habit
• 51:00
  which can be very beautiful and good.
• 51:02
  But then you're like, OK, this what's mystery?
• 51:04
  Is it? Oh yeah, the you know, the agony
• 51:05
  in the garden. OK, OK.
• 51:08
  And you're like, you know, you do your thing, but you're not.
• 51:11
  Are you putting the, taking the, the movement of the heart and
• 51:15
  the mind to move to, OK, what am I actually doing here?
• 51:19
  Who am I with here? What's happening here?
• 51:21
  And it's so easy to make it a routine.
• 51:23
  And again, the Lord blesses even the smallest movement of our
• 51:26
  heart. And even if we do 1 little
• 51:27
  thing, God will use it. And maybe we're exhausted or our
• 51:30
  brain is fried and that's OK. Just like you're there with
• 51:34
  Mary, you're there with Jesus. So let that be enough.
• 51:37
  But we have so many opportunities, like you're
• 51:39
  saying to say, OK, what am I? Am I really in the garden
• 51:42
  watching Jesus sweat blood for me?
• 51:45
  This is for me. He's doing this, you know, like
• 51:48
  and and but like. Let yourself experience.
• 51:50
  Be there with him. Be there with him, but also let
• 51:52
  yourself be loved by him like he's doing this for you.
• 51:54
  This is a tremendous amount of suffering he's enduring for us.
• 51:58
  Do we know? Do we let ourselves feel how
• 52:00
  loved we are that someone would do this for us?
• 52:03
  You know, we don't even think about it.
• 52:05
  You know, we just go and do our lives right.
• 52:07
  And so, but what you're saying is so beautiful to really make
• 52:10
  that the practice of the rosary, not just to say the words, but
• 52:14
  to mentally pray the. Words to the best of your
• 52:18
  ability. To the best of your ability,
• 52:20
  tell it. Talk to me more about the mental
• 52:21
  prayer, because you were saying it's synonymous with meditation
• 52:24
  and many of the writings of the lives of the Saints.
• 52:26
  I'm sorry, Gabe. There's one more thing I meant
• 52:28
  to ask you to do. I'm.
• 52:29
  I'm moving you too many places. Saint Dominic.
• 52:32
  Yes. Our Lady giving Saint Dominic
• 52:34
  the rosary. Just give us that scene.
• 52:35
  What? Happened with that brief
• 52:37
  version. So Saint Dominic was a great
• 52:39
  preacher. I, I kind of imagine him like a
• 52:41
  mixture of Bishop Baron with Fulton Sheen, just like the guy
• 52:45
  you want to hear, like he just, he, he always delivers, but he
• 52:48
  wasn't being fruitful. And so that really bothered him
• 52:52
  because he was trying to convert a, a group called the
• 52:55
  Albigensians and he was not effective.
• 52:57
  Where? Where was this?
• 52:58
  This is in France. So he offered himself to Our
• 53:02
  Lady, as we we would call it a victim soul.
• 53:05
  I don't think he was thinking about that.
• 53:06
  He was just begging, Blessed Mother, help me.
• 53:09
  I want to be able to reach hardened sinners.
• 53:11
  I I want to call down the power of the Holy Spirit like Jesus
• 53:15
  promised that we'd have streams of living water flowing through
• 53:18
  US. I want all of that.
• 53:20
  So he was preaching in France, in like now France, modern day
• 53:24
  France and he what, what year, what roughly what year was this?
• 53:26
  Twelve, 13th century, early 1200s.
• 53:29
  OK, so he's 1200s. He's there to convert people.
• 53:33
  And he's a really good, talented preacher, it sounds like.
• 53:36
  But he's having trouble with fruitfulness.
• 53:38
  He's like, people are not converting.
• 53:39
  What am I doing wrong here? And so he does literally Hail
• 53:42
  Mary. I mean, he's like, Mary, help me
• 53:44
  out. That's kind of the thing Mary
• 53:45
  for help, he fasts, he takes the discipline, which isn't a
• 53:49
  popular thing anymore. It's like doing penance and tell
• 53:51
  the point that he faints and the Virgin Mary appears to him and
• 53:55
  says to him, Dominic, my well beloved son, because you have
• 53:58
  been so faithful, our Lord is going to answer your prayer.
• 54:01
  And this is going to be a prayer that calls down the power of the
• 54:04
  Holy Spirit that reaches the heart of heart and sinners and
• 54:08
  everywhere you promote this rosary, you're going to be
• 54:10
  fruitful. And these are her exact words
• 54:11
  that I'm going to quote to you because they're very profound.
• 54:13
  She said in this type of warfare, the battering ram has
• 54:18
  been and always will be the angelic salutation, which is the
• 54:22
  cornerstone of the New Testament.
• 54:24
  That's very profound because Jesus said the gates of hell
• 54:28
  shall not prevail against the church.
• 54:31
  And often I used to think at least that that meant that we're
• 54:35
  going to put up boundaries and we're going to keep hell out and
• 54:38
  it's going to be a small remnant.
• 54:40
  But that wasn't Jesus's intention.
• 54:42
  Jesus's intention was the gates of hell shall not prevail
• 54:44
  against you. Wherever there's hell in your
• 54:46
  family, wherever there's hell in your community or at work, by
• 54:50
  the power of the Holy Spirit, you're going to go in there and
• 54:52
  you're going to bring the light of Christ.
• 54:54
  And so how do you bring the light of Christ into a community
• 54:57
  that does not want Christ the same way Jesus did?
• 55:00
  Hail Mary, full of grace. It is those words that broke
• 55:03
  down the walls of the Kingdom of Satan here on earth.
• 55:07
  And those words were fruitful then, and they're going to be
• 55:09
  fruitful today, and they'll be fruitful tomorrow.
• 55:11
  So in this type of warfare, the battering ram is the angelic
• 55:15
  salutation. And I just took Mary's.
• 55:17
  Yes, right. Yeah, Like Mary's yes to the
• 55:20
  Angel, to God, brought Jesus and then by his by through him and
• 55:24
  through her. Yes, we are saved.
• 55:26
  But you're saying when we say our yes to say to echo the words
• 55:30
  and to ask Mary to help us and bring Jesus into wherever we
• 55:33
  are. We can be conquerors to Satan
• 55:37
  wherever we go, even in our own family.
• 55:39
  It's so powerful because when you start to say those words,
• 55:43
  you will get inspirations. So you go in to pray the rosary
• 55:46
  with a conflict. You're praying because your
• 55:49
  husband or your wife is really, you know what?
• 55:52
  She's really getting on my nerves today.
• 55:54
  I'm trying to do what she wants me to do.
• 55:56
  And then she asked me to do something else.
• 55:57
  And you're stressed and you're praying Jesus carrying of the
• 56:00
  cross. And you're saying, our Father
• 56:01
  who art in heaven, Hail Mary full of grace, Hail Mary full of
• 56:04
  grace, Hail Mary full of grace. And while you're thinking of
• 56:06
  Jesus carrying the cross, he looks at you in a certain way
• 56:10
  and it hits you. What is Jesus doing?
• 56:12
  Patiently carrying his cross. He's patiently loving and you
• 56:17
  are strengthened to patiently love.
• 56:20
  And when you unite your will to the will of God, the power of
• 56:23
  the Holy Spirit flows out of you, and relationships are
• 56:26
  healed and marriages are made stronger and families are
• 56:30
  empowered. And so.
• 56:32
  You nailed it. Was Saint Dominic fruitful
• 56:34
  after? This.
• 56:35
  Oh my gosh, oh, he was so fruitful.
• 56:38
  Oh. Who did he convert?
• 56:39
  He converted everybody. He In the book The Secret of the
• 56:42
  Rose by Saint Louis De Montfort, there's a great testimony.
• 56:45
  He says everywhere that Dominic preached the rosary, hardened.
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  Sinners were converted, miracles happened.
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  Even young children were doing extreme penances.
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  And throughout the history of the Church, wherever the Rosary
• 56:57
  was preached, sin died down. Not just said, but preached
• 57:02
  preached. What's the distinction preached?
• 57:03
  What does that mean? What we're not doing?
• 57:05
  Preach means promoting it and the best way to promote it, if
• 57:08
  people are listening and they're like, why?
• 57:10
  Where am I going to promote it? I'm not like a catechist teacher
• 57:12
  or anything like that. I don't have a podcast.
• 57:15
  The best time to promote it is anytime somebody's suffering.
• 57:18
  So Saint John of the Cross said that suffering endears men to
• 57:22
  Christ. So when a person in your family
• 57:24
  is suffering, give them a rosary, say or even say, I
• 57:29
  bought this for you, let me pray with you.
• 57:32
  And because they're vulnerable, they're open.
• 57:36
  They're open when people are suffering, we're willing to try
• 57:38
  anything to make it stop. And that is the perfect time for
• 57:41
  the grace of God to bring peace. Maybe they're they don't get the
• 57:44
  job or maybe they don't get physically healed.
• 57:47
  But one of the fruits of the rosary, because the rosary is
• 57:49
  inspired by the Word of God. What does the Word of God say
• 57:52
  about the fruits of the Spirit? The fruits of the Spirit are
• 57:55
  peace. One of them.
• 57:57
  And so you pray the rosary with somebody who's suffering, they
• 57:59
  will have peace. Or even just you tell them
• 58:01
  you're praying for them and give them a rosary that that that
• 58:04
  works too. Oh yes.
• 58:05
  So can you tell me about the Battle of Lepanto?
• 58:08
  I'm putting on the spot here, but we haven't actually talked
• 58:10
  about it yet on the show. And I think that's a really
• 58:13
  great, like historical record proof.
• 58:15
  Like it's really really just shows the proof of prayer, the
• 58:18
  power of prayer in human history, but specifically the
• 58:20
  rosary. Yes.
• 58:21
  So the Turks, the Ottoman Empire, the Muslims were
• 58:27
  invading, and the Christian fleets, it was a naval battle
• 58:31
  near Greece. The Christian fleets were vastly
• 58:34
  outnumbered. And the Pope called upon
• 58:38
  everybody universally, pray the rosary, pray the rosary, pray
• 58:41
  the rosary, pray the rosary. He was just doing everything.
• 58:44
  That was like a letter he wrote Chris and him because obviously.
• 58:46
  There's no like he was. Social media or phones to.
• 58:49
  Yeah, he was the Rosary Warrior promoting it.
• 58:52
  So everyone knew the Ottoman Turks are coming.
• 58:55
  They're more powerful than we are.
• 58:56
  They're going to basically what pillage us.
• 58:58
  Yes, and this is the last stand you and I would be if I was
• 59:01
  alive, I would be named Muhammad right now because all of Western
• 59:04
  civilization would have crumbled.
• 59:05
  This was like a major, major. Battle.
• 59:08
  So they were Muslim? Yeah, they were Muslim.
• 59:10
  So a lot of people don't know the history here.
• 59:12
  So it's but it's fascinating, right.
• 59:14
  So this is and you're saying if they had overtaken the
• 59:20
  Christians they would have not stopped there, they would have
• 59:22
  gone further, further South into Europe?
• 59:26
  Yes, and this was something that all historians agree upon, that
• 59:29
  this battle was decisive and in the middle of the battle the
• 59:34
  winds started to change and ended up supporting the
• 59:38
  Christian armies, and the Christian armies, although
• 59:41
  vastly outnumbered, totally destroyed it.
• 59:44
  But they were all praying the rosary during.
• 59:45
  This no the people, the people of God are praying the rosary.
• 59:48
  So, so, so everyone's praying the rosary and you're saying all
• 59:52
  of a sudden as they're are they, are they actively praying the
• 59:55
  rosary? Well, their battle or all their?
• 59:56
  Family is praying the rosary. The people who are not at or are
• 59:59
  praying, they're. For them, but this was everyone
• 1:00:01
  agreed this is our this is our plan we're.
• 1:00:03
  Just going to pray going in. Yes, what else can we do?
• 1:00:05
  They even had an image of Our Lady of Guadalupe as like as
• 1:00:09
  their standard. So Our Lady was very, very
• 1:00:12
  prominent, very prominent. And it was a very decisive
• 1:00:16
  victory. But, and sometimes I get upset
• 1:00:18
  with the Church because we talked about the Battle of
• 1:00:20
  Lepanto and it's like, why do we always refer to the Battle of
• 1:00:23
  Lepanto? Because it's very famous,
• 1:00:24
  because afterwards Pope Pius, the 5th named October 7th to be
• 1:00:29
  the feast of Our Lady of Victory.
• 1:00:31
  And October 7th today is known as Our Lady of the Rosary.
• 1:00:35
  So there is a synonymous tie there that in the Rosary you
• 1:00:39
  will have victory. My friend Padre Pio, I don't
• 1:00:42
  really know him, but I prayed him a lot to her buddies.
• 1:00:44
  He said that the Rosary is the prayer for those who are
• 1:00:47
  victorious over everyone and over everything, and we haven't
• 1:00:51
  won in a long time. As Catholics.
• 1:00:54
  Our last major battle was the Battle of Lepanto.
• 1:00:57
  Like our physical battle? Yeah, spiritual battle, like it
• 1:01:00
  feels like the Catholic Church is irrelevant.
• 1:01:04
  You think so? Oh, I think so.
• 1:01:05
  I think that people ask me, they say.
• 1:01:08
  You mean in like human affairs? In human affairs, like, yeah,
• 1:01:10
  people like they. A priest goes into one of my my
• 1:01:13
  pastors, he wears the cassock. He goes to the store.
• 1:01:15
  People think he's cosplaying. The Catholic Church used to be
• 1:01:18
  the number one biggest influencer in the entire world.
• 1:01:21
  Now we're kind of like an actor. Patron of the arts.
• 1:01:23
  The Patron. Yeah, we used to be the best of
• 1:01:24
  everything, yeah. They would literally knight the
• 1:01:27
  appoint the king. I mean, it's interesting.
• 1:01:30
  I mean, I'm a little more hopeful maybe that there's a
• 1:01:32
  lot, a lot of good we're doing. Good, but we're not winning.
• 1:01:36
  Well, it depends what we mean. What do you What do you mean?
• 1:01:39
  Right. I mean, we're the battle for
• 1:01:40
  souls that happens on a daily basis.
• 1:01:43
  You think we're losing? Even at a good parish that's
• 1:01:45
  thriving and flourishing, there are more Catholics out of the
• 1:01:48
  Church than are in the Church. Meaning these are Catholics,
• 1:01:52
  they are baptized Catholics, and they're not, they're not living
• 1:01:55
  their Catholic faith for sure. Yeah, well, no.
• 1:01:57
  And the number of people even listening to this show right
• 1:01:59
  now, if you're still listening, things for continuing to listen
• 1:02:01
  if you are not Catholic. They were maybe race Catholic
• 1:02:04
  and they become evangelical because being race Catholic,
• 1:02:07
  they felt they never had an encounter with.
• 1:02:08
  Jesus, right? I think heartbreaking, right, is
• 1:02:11
  a resurgence in Catholic circles, getting more faithful,
• 1:02:15
  getting stronger, learning their faith.
• 1:02:17
  I think more Catholics now than ever before know their faith.
• 1:02:20
  We're like, there's no shortage of apologetics and information
• 1:02:24
  out there. I think that the number of those
• 1:02:25
  actively engaged is way smaller. And I feel it on a daily basis
• 1:02:30
  when I work with my high school teens and they come and I have
• 1:02:34
  they they don't know anything. They don't know anything.
• 1:02:36
  And I'm like, well, did you make your first communion?
• 1:02:38
  Yeah, we made our first communion.
• 1:02:39
  We're baptized. Yeah.
• 1:02:41
  That reminds me when I was the confirmation sponsor for a very
• 1:02:45
  sweet, dear, beloved person in my life, young woman.
• 1:02:49
  She was at the time. I don't know, you know, I don't
• 1:02:51
  know. What is it, 1514?
• 1:02:52
  Years old when you make your. First confirmation, this was
• 1:02:55
  over a decade ago and I flew to her to be her confirmation
• 1:02:59
  sponsor and I remember meeting with her and her other class and
• 1:03:03
  this is, you know, in the West Coast and there I was like, are
• 1:03:06
  you guys excited to be, you know, being confirmed?
• 1:03:08
  You know, you're going to have the power to be martyrs, like
• 1:03:10
  the the Holy Spirit is going to give you these incredible
• 1:03:13
  inspiration, like whatever. And they're all just like, oh,
• 1:03:15
  really, whatever. We're just doing this because
• 1:03:17
  our parents telling us to do this.
• 1:03:18
  And I was like, well, do you want to pray together?
• 1:03:20
  You know, I don't know why we have the special time we were.
• 1:03:22
  Just waiting. I love that time.
• 1:03:23
  Yeah, I was just trying to like, and they're like, OK, yeah,
• 1:03:26
  sure. We let's all pray.
• 1:03:27
  And I was like, how about we pray like the rosary or
• 1:03:29
  something, you know, like, and and I was like, or we maybe it's
• 1:03:32
  too long. Let's do a decade.
• 1:03:34
  They didn't know how to pray a Hail Mary.
• 1:03:36
  Wow, no. Way they didn't know that.
• 1:03:38
  They didn't know how to pray a Hail Mary.
• 1:03:41
  That's tough. And but, but it's like this is
• 1:03:43
  the catechesis today in a lot of the Western Church.
• 1:03:45
  That's tough. We're not even telling them what
• 1:03:48
  the rosary means and how to pray it, among many other things,
• 1:03:51
  right on faith and. Morals.
• 1:03:52
  There is there is a resurgence though, like I've I've heard
• 1:03:55
  from a lot of catechists, a lot of people involved in faith
• 1:03:59
  formation, those who are in the know are stronger than ever.
• 1:04:03
  But I think now our strategy has to be how can we reach people
• 1:04:08
  outside of our bubble? Yeah, that's that's the
• 1:04:12
  challenge. One thing I have to say here for
• 1:04:15
  folks listening is that you mentioned Our Lady of Victory
• 1:04:18
  and Our Lady of the Rosary on October 7th.
• 1:04:21
  As everyone knows, there's the election happening early
• 1:04:22
  November. There's a lot of attention on
• 1:04:24
  the federal election, but honestly, I don't think that is
• 1:04:27
  that's important. But there's a lot going on there
• 1:04:29
  that's conflicting and confusing and we're not going to talk
• 1:04:32
  about that right now. What I will say though, is in
• 1:04:33
  the state, in a few states, including the states of Florida
• 1:04:36
  and Missouri, they have these ballot initiatives which would
• 1:04:39
  put abortion in the state constitution up until birth.
• 1:04:42
  These are states that have a lot of Pearl life laws as it stands.
• 1:04:45
  And it's really a, it's a, it's a get out the vote game.
• 1:04:48
  Like are people going to show up and vote no in Missouri on
• 1:04:50
  Amendment 3 and no in Florida on Amendment 4?
• 1:04:53
  You got to vote no because the amendments would put abortion in
• 1:04:55
  the state constitution. Literally 10s of thousands,
• 1:04:58
  potentially hundreds and millions of future lives are at
• 1:05:00
  risk because of these specific ballot initiative.
• 1:05:03
  So the Pearl equipment lost a bunch of these in the last two
• 1:05:05
  years since Roe fell. So if you're listening, pray the
• 1:05:08
  rosary or just pray however you can.
• 1:05:11
  But the rosary, particularly for victory.
• 1:05:15
  This is why I really, I really like you and I really like your
• 1:05:18
  podcast because you talk about doing practical things to win.
• 1:05:23
  Sometimes our faith can be overly spiritualized, but if
• 1:05:27
  it's not practical, if it's not lived, like what are we doing,
• 1:05:31
  What are we doing? What are we doing?
• 1:05:32
  It's like not in so much for bringing.
• 1:05:34
  That right, it's not in past and that's the back of the Rose
• 1:05:36
  from. Flesh.
• 1:05:37
  Yeah, we have to live what we believe, love it and like make
• 1:05:40
  that sometimes that's going to look a little countercultural or
• 1:05:42
  it's going to be a little bit risky how we live it.
• 1:05:45
  So and it's we I'll also just share, we launch, we have live
• 1:05:48
  action. We actually just launched live
• 1:05:50
  action victory. And I didn't actually, I didn't
• 1:05:53
  actually think about the. Connection I.
• 1:05:54
  Love that, but I love it. I'm going to right now just ask
• 1:05:58
  the Blessed Mother to give particular help in the those
• 1:06:01
  efforts for victory because we need wins and we need
• 1:06:04
  particularly to win for the sake of these lives.
• 1:06:07
  But the the challenge, I'll just say 1 I think the challenge in
• 1:06:09
  the pearlife movement always is that our lives are not on the
• 1:06:11
  line. Right.
• 1:06:12
  That's right. Our lives are not on the line.
• 1:06:15
  And and when you look at other movements like, you know, people
• 1:06:17
  who are for gun rights or they're for, you know, economic
• 1:06:20
  things or, you know, they care about the economy or, you know,
• 1:06:22
  they're for freedom of speech, right?
• 1:06:23
  All of these important things, right?
• 1:06:26
  Those things they have like skin in the game, like I want my gun
• 1:06:29
  or they want their freedom of speech or they want they be able
• 1:06:31
  to pay for their gas, right? So people are like engaged,
• 1:06:34
  they're zoned in. But when it comes to pro-life,
• 1:06:37
  like you have to have an A level of detachment from what you care
• 1:06:43
  about in your given day, to care about people that you're never
• 1:06:46
  going to meet potentially who don't know you and have a sense
• 1:06:50
  of radical concern for their lives to the point of doing
• 1:06:52
  something to mess up your daily life for their.
• 1:06:54
  Sakes. So.
• 1:06:57
  Yes, and praying, I think that people of prayer, when they go
• 1:07:01
  to pray, they are confronted with God and the voice of God
• 1:07:05
  speaks to them. And he's the one who convicts us
• 1:07:08
  to act, especially in pro-life causes, because we're not, we
• 1:07:12
  don't have skin in the game, but when he touches our heart, we,
• 1:07:15
  he just has a way of convicting us that we feel guilty if we
• 1:07:18
  don't do his will. And 100% we have to pray for
• 1:07:22
  these. This is a spiritual battle.
• 1:07:25
  You've talked about it many times, the sacrifice of human
• 1:07:29
  children. It's a, it's a moral evil and
• 1:07:31
  it's a moral evil that attracts bad spirits.
• 1:07:35
  And they want abortion more than you could ever dream of, I would
• 1:07:40
  hope. Can we give a couple of tips for
• 1:07:42
  those people who want to try the rosary out for a couple days?
• 1:07:44
  So one of my tips that I have is that I always carry a rosary
• 1:07:48
  with me. So some people will make the
• 1:07:49
  resolution like I'm going to try to pray the rosary every day.
• 1:07:52
  You're more likely to keep a resolution if you actually have
• 1:07:55
  a physical rosary on your person.
• 1:07:58
  Rosaries can be expensive and there can be some cheap ones
• 1:08:01
  that if you can't afford 1, you can get like a plastic one.
• 1:08:03
  There's at your local church. They have some.
• 1:08:05
  But I encourage people to spend money on a rosary, spend 50
• 1:08:08
  dollars, $45.00 to buy a nice rosary that's durable, that
• 1:08:14
  you're not just going to leave it anywhere.
• 1:08:15
  You're like, you're going to know where your rosary is.
• 1:08:17
  Kind of like I know where my phone is.
• 1:08:19
  So that's yeah. We spend $1000 on our phones.
• 1:08:22
  On a phone, yeah. So it's like get a nice rosary,
• 1:08:25
  get a nice rosary. So that's tip #1, tip #2 is have
• 1:08:28
  an intention. So we're willing to do any.
• 1:08:31
  What if I have a strong? Why?
• 1:08:34
  So what is it that I care about or who is it that I love that at
• 1:08:39
  the end of the day when I'm tired and I haven't prayed, I'm
• 1:08:43
  going to get on my knees or I'm going to sit up straight and I'm
• 1:08:46
  going to pray this rosary because my mom is sick or
• 1:08:49
  because I have a brother who's an alcoholic and he's struggling
• 1:08:53
  and his family needs them. So you find AY that will
• 1:08:57
  motivate you to pray for 9 days. So try to make it a novena.
• 1:09:01
  Just try to go 9 days and what will what happen is that you
• 1:09:05
  will begin to notice the difference after 9 days of
• 1:09:08
  prayer, the peace that comes day 10.
• 1:09:11
  Let's say you don't do it. You're going to be like, man,
• 1:09:13
  I'm off today. I need to get that Rotary back
• 1:09:15
  in my life. It's making a huge difference in
• 1:09:17
  my life. So tip #1 carry rosary, tip #2
• 1:09:19
  have an intention. Tip #3 is don't be scrupulous.
• 1:09:23
  A lot of times the devil will discourage us.
• 1:09:26
  We'll hear a little voice in our head saying you're not good at
• 1:09:28
  that. It's not fruitful, it's not for
• 1:09:30
  you. You're not one of those people.
• 1:09:32
  Just do your best to get it done.
• 1:09:34
  I have found that on days where my mind is foggy, yesterday was
• 1:09:38
  one of those days where I was just like where am I going?
• 1:09:40
  What am I doing? When I get my prayers done and I
• 1:09:43
  say them, I still receive the grace it.
• 1:09:47
  Our prayer life isn't about feelings, it's about I'm praying
• 1:09:51
  because I love God and I'm trying and sometimes my best
• 1:09:54
  ain't pretty and this is what I have.
• 1:09:57
  Lord, this is what I'm presenting to you today.
• 1:10:00
  I'm not saying do it badly, but as you mentioned earlier, the
• 1:10:03
  ingredients of the rosary are so powerful that even when I pray
• 1:10:06
  it poorly, the words of Sacred Scripture, they do something.
• 1:10:10
  They plant seeds in my heart that actually grow to fruition.
• 1:10:15
  So don't be too hard on yourself.
• 1:10:18
  Don't be scrupulous tip #4 it's if you're trying to, if you have
• 1:10:22
  like a real like let's say for example, it's Election Day and
• 1:10:25
  you're like this, there's so much on the line.
• 1:10:28
  I just want to be in prayer all day often to pray prayers,
• 1:10:31
  rosaries nonstop. If maybe somebody's called to do
• 1:10:33
  that, everybody's different. I don't want anybody ever to
• 1:10:35
  feel like I'm not holy or I'm not good enough.
• 1:10:38
  Everybody's called to a different stage of prayer in
• 1:10:41
  their life. And the best way to discern that
• 1:10:43
  is just to ask God, God, what do you want from me?
• 1:10:46
  Look at my life. When should I pray?
• 1:10:48
  But if you're going to pray more than one, you only need to do
• 1:10:51
  the Apostles Creed and those that our Father and the three
• 1:10:54
  Hail Marys. I call them the jump on prayers.
• 1:10:56
  You only need to do the jump on prayers once.
• 1:10:59
  Yeah, you can just, you get on the track and you can just keep
• 1:11:01
  making the loops of the various mysteries.
• 1:11:03
  There's not a strict rule that you have to do the joyful and
• 1:11:07
  then the luminous and then the sorrowful and then the glorious.
• 1:11:10
  For some people you might do for glorious or just it's not
• 1:11:14
  there's not like a set defined rule as long as it has the life
• 1:11:17
  of Christ. Our fathers 10 Hail Marys you
• 1:11:20
  got the rosary. And then the final tip is make
• 1:11:23
  make a plan. Things that are important to us,
• 1:11:26
  we put them on the calendar. We say I've got a doctor's
• 1:11:29
  appointment at 3:00. I can't miss it.
• 1:11:30
  Similarly, I pray every morning right when I wake up.
• 1:11:35
  I I pray on my way home from work.
• 1:11:37
  Find a time where you're always going to pray, provided there's
• 1:11:40
  not like an emergency circumstance, of course, but
• 1:11:43
  find a time and make a plan. I I have found in my own life
• 1:11:46
  and in my friends that those people who wait to the very end
• 1:11:49
  of the night to pray the rosary and they're laying down in bed
• 1:11:52
  with the rosary like these beads are like my sleeping pills.
• 1:11:56
  I start praying these beads when I'm horizontal.
• 1:11:59
  What happens is I fall asleep. I heard it said though the
• 1:12:02
  guardian Angel finishes for you. I don't know about that I've.
• 1:12:06
  Heard that one. I've heard of that.
• 1:12:07
  I'm not sure if it's true or not, or else I would just be
• 1:12:09
  like Hail Mary, goodnight, make a plan.
• 1:12:14
  Hey, one Hail Mary is better than none, right?
• 1:12:16
  Frank 100%. Oh yes.
• 1:12:18
  If you want to start really simple, just at when you soon as
• 1:12:21
  you wake up, sit up and say Hail Mary, yes, you could do.
• 1:12:24
  You could start that. Yes, my favorite, one of my
• 1:12:26
  favorite coach from GK Chester. And he said if something is
• 1:12:28
  worth doing, it's worth doing poorly.
• 1:12:30
  Like just get it done, do something.
• 1:12:32
  Something is better than nothing.
• 1:12:34
  But I would recommend making a plan and that's the key to
• 1:12:36
  success for people who want to pray with their children.
• 1:12:40
  My least objectively from what my observations are, my prayers
• 1:12:44
  with my family, I feel like are the least nourishing for me
• 1:12:49
  because like we've got a lot of moving parts.
• 1:12:52
  I have a three-year old, I have a 7 year old.
• 1:12:54
  I have it's, it's chaos. The mom's listening right now,
• 1:12:58
  Gabe are like, tell me about it. It's chaos.
• 1:13:00
  Tell me about it. There's no.
• 1:13:01
  There's no silver bullet to getting your children to pray
• 1:13:04
  well again, don't be overly scrupulous about it.
• 1:13:08
  Something is better than nothing.
• 1:13:09
  One thing that worked when my children were younger is by
• 1:13:12
  telling them the story of the mystery.
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  I would just tell them the story of Jesus's agony in the garden.
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  It wouldn't be necessarily scripturally accurate all the
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  time. I'll just give them my version
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  of the gospel. Child appropriate.
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  And my children, they love that part.
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  Like tell us a story about Jesus again, I'm like, all right, here
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  we go. And then I'll tell you, I'll
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  tell you the next part of the story.
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  But it's going to cost. And then you, then you tell
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  them, hey, when, when we pray the human Aries, now you can
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  think about the story. Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.
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  So that works, but there's no silver bullet.
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  I wish there was. I wish it was easy.
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  But I have found in families that pray with their children,
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  even if they pray a decade or they pray the full rosary, I
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  have found it because I work with them.
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  The kids that the kids in my youth group, they're good.
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  Like they're, they're going to be OK.
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  I, I say, hey, you guys pray as a family.
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  You're a really good kid. You're really paying attention.
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  Yeah, We pray. What do you guys pray?
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  We pray a decade of the Rose. We pray the rosary as a family.
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  They're good. They're really good kids.
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  And the beauty. The beauty.
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  Yeah. The beauty is that we don't know
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  what our kids are going to do when they leave the house.
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  But because of Pius the 5th adding that, pray for me now and
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  at the hour of my death, when a child says that prayer and they
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  leave the house, and even if it looks like they've forgotten
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  about the Virgin Mary, the Virgin Mary doesn't forget her
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  children. And she always works your way
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  back into their lives. I've seen it time and time again
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  where people who have had a devotion to the rosary as a
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  family when they were younger, they maybe fall away.
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  They end up coming back. This I just have to share
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  something. This inspires me.
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  What you're just saying I there's and I'm sure she'd be
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  comfortable with me sharing this.
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  She she shares it. But so in my family, you know, I
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  became Catholic in college. My mother was raised Catholic,
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  but it was like a cultural thing.
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  And so they'd send the kids to Mass most Sundays, but the
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  parents won't even go a. Lot of Sundays, yeah.
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  It was like Italian Boston Catholics like that's what she
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  how she was raised. So she became born again
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  evangelical at age 20 someone like gave her a Bible for the
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  first time and it like clicked for her.
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  And so anyways, when our family, I was having this Catholic
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  Catholicizing thing happened to us and I'm becoming Catholic, my
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  daddy's becoming Catholic. My mom was like, okay, well, you
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  know, I want to do what you guys are doing, but like, I have all
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  these hang ups and does it really make sense?
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  And she was going on this journey and one of the things
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  that I remember her sharing, like there was almost this
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  aversion to just like what she saw as this very sterile, even
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  maybe judgmental, you know, not full of God's grace and the Holy
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  Spirit, like lifestyle religion, like it was a cultural thing.
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  And you know, Mary particularly, I think there was like all the
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  people with their, you know, you know, that there's a stereotype
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  that little old lady in the church with their, with their
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  beads and the little rosary beads.
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  And everyone kind of I think has their own the idea of this.
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  Maybe it's baggage or a hang up or a trigger, but maybe it's a
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  positive thing too. But for a lot of people, maybe
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  it's not a positive thing and they look at it and are like,
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  that looks like dollar trous or that just looks dumb or whatever
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  they're thinking right and. In a way, do you blame them?
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  We've got I got like 2 pictures. Well, I mean you're, he's like
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  repping. I understand.
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  You go hard, you feel like right.
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  You're going hard, which is great, but but my mother now she
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  prays the daily result. Oh, I love that.
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  And maybe multiple sometimes, but but I watched it and I
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  wasn't in her shoes, but I could see her having this like dealing
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  with this aversion and this like wrestling with it.
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  But I watched her graciously have a humility where she's
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  like, I'm going to like just kind of let sit with this and
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  like explore. She was exploring it.
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  And then I saw I think it was really through going back to the
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  Mass and like receiving the Eucharist and like sitting in
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  front of the Eucharist, this new resurgence in her life.
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  And now, I mean, my mother has always been a person I admire,
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  has always been someone who's a source of wisdom and virtue that
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  I look up to. But watching her since her
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  reversion, if we could call it that, you know, her really
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  becoming Catholic in terms of her living it, it's been
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  incredibly inspiring for me. And I know that that's the story
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  for many other people and sounds like in many ways for you.
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  So thank you for responding to his call and being so all out
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  about it, 'cause well, like, don't hide the light on her
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  bushel. You are not hiding that light.
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  Thank you, Gabe. Likewise to you, it's beautiful.
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  As you were speaking, I could just feel Our Lady's presence
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  wrapping her mantle around you. She's so pleased with you.
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  She's so happy with all the things you're doing.
• 1:17:30
  Please keep it up. Praying for you, doing amazing
• 1:17:33
  things. Thank you how can I mean you
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  have we didn't even talk about your channel.
• 1:17:36
  How can people find your channel?
• 1:17:37
  Your channel is very fun 'cause you all the.
• 1:17:39
  We also do like V logging and like all.
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  Kinds of yeah, I do a lot of different things.
• 1:17:43
  I like variety. I can see that, yeah.
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  Yeah, so my YouTube channel is called Gobby after Hours.
• 1:17:49
  It is unapologetically Catholic. So non Catholics who first watch
• 1:17:53
  it, they're like, Oh my gosh, this is kind of like a shock.
• 1:17:55
  This dude is like too Catholic. But I have found that once
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  people kind of like get used to how, you know, far I go, they
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  end up appreciating it and cherishing it.
• 1:18:06
  And then they become crazy Catholics as.
• 1:18:09
  Well have you done videos on like on the relics and going to
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  see the dead body parts of? Yeah, I have.
• 1:18:14
  I have one of the best videos. If you want to go extra Catholic
• 1:18:17
  guys. Oh my gosh.
• 1:18:18
  Go look at the. Befriending.
• 1:18:20
  Befriending the Saints is what I call it.
• 1:18:21
  OK. And it has a nice.
• 1:18:22
  It has a nice potential. Of relative father Carlos is in
• 1:18:25
  it, and of course he's like the best he's the.
• 1:18:27
  When Father Carlos came on the show the other month, it was
• 1:18:29
  after he was coming from like some part of Southern California
• 1:18:33
  just drove in and he had Saint Jude's leg.
• 1:18:36
  Was it his? Leg His.
• 1:18:37
  Arm his arm. Literally the arm of body parts
• 1:18:40
  A. Body part he's touring around
• 1:18:43
  and thousands of people are coming to be blessed with a body
• 1:18:46
  part basically. And like, again to your your
• 1:18:48
  average evangelical, they're like, Get Me Out of here like
• 1:18:52
  this is, you know, this is what is this right?
• 1:18:54
  This is insane. But you wouldn't you enter and
• 1:18:57
  you kind of understand what it all means in the context of the
• 1:18:59
  faith and the, you know, the scripture and all of a sudden it
• 1:19:01
  just becomes so beautiful. But maybe that's another day,
• 1:19:05
  another day, another time. But thank you.
• 1:19:06
  So Gabby, Gabby, Gabby after. Hours and the reason for Gabby
• 1:19:09
  is because my mom is fluent in Spanish and in Spanish Gabriel
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  the short is Gabby. What does your mom think about
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  all this? My mom is incredible.
• 1:19:20
  My mom is the holiest woman that I know.
• 1:19:22
  She's currently doing a holy hour right now as we speak.
• 1:19:25
  She's done two hours of adoration.
• 1:19:27
  This was. After you came.
• 1:19:28
  Oh, yeah. So after my conversion, I came.
• 1:19:31
  The first person I needed to bring to the Lord was my mom.
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  Wow. And she said yes.
• 1:19:35
  And she's been saying yes. And she's been going deeper and
• 1:19:38
  deeper every day. God is good.
• 1:19:40
  See, God is so good. He knows how much we love our
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  family. Just like you with your mom.
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  My mom is one of my biggest supporters.
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  Beautiful. Thank you.
• 1:19:47
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• 1:19:47
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