Latest / The Steve Harvey Morning Show / Uplift: Recognizing Dr. Gladys West's significant contribtions to GPS technology and importance of June 19th.
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- 0:35Speaker 1: My next two guests are on the show discussing the
- 0:38Speaker 1: significance of June team. If you don't know about juneteen,
- 0:42Speaker 1: the day commemorates the ending of slavery in the United.
- 0:45Speaker 2: States, and why.
- 0:47Speaker 1: It is important to highlight pioneers like doctor Gladys West
- 0:52Speaker 1: in that same context. Please welcome to Money Making Conversation.
- 0:55Speaker 1: Two of my favorite people, doctor Jackie Russian and Robin Donaldson.
- 0:59Speaker 2: How you doing, ladies now? I got both of you
- 1:04Speaker 2: guys on the screen here.
- 1:05Speaker 1: People are listening to this in audio. Jackie, word you
- 1:08Speaker 1: reside at right now.
- 1:09Speaker 3: Atlanta and Robert Word Petersburg, Florida.
- 1:14Speaker 2: Saint Petersburg, Florida.
- 1:16Speaker 1: Good, now we're going now when I look at you'all bios.
- 1:20Speaker 1: You know, Jackie, I've interviewed you a couple of times.
- 1:22Speaker 1: You're an award winning business executive, author, mental health professional,
- 1:27Speaker 1: and humanitarian educator.
- 1:29Speaker 2: Robin.
- 1:30Speaker 1: You received a twenty twenty five President Lifetime Achieving Award
- 1:34Speaker 1: for contributions to STEM education globally. Now the word education
- 1:39Speaker 1: is in both of you guys titled and then I'm
- 1:41Speaker 1: talking to about a book I read.
- 1:44Speaker 2: It Began with a Dream by doctor Gladys B.
- 1:47Speaker 1: West, and her contribution is something we use every day GPS, GPS,
- 1:55Speaker 1: and I think that when you start talking about a
- 1:57Speaker 1: black invention, black creation, that's important. So I'm gonna start
- 2:02Speaker 1: with you, Robin, because the words them. Then the word
- 2:05Speaker 1: globally popped up in your intro. Talked about the importance
- 2:09Speaker 1: of an individual life.
- 2:11Speaker 3: Doctor Gladys West, Well, first, thank you for allowing me
- 2:17Speaker 3: to be on the show. This is this is this
- 2:19Speaker 3: is very important. And I feel that doctor West is well,
- 2:27Speaker 3: first of all, she's a living hidden figure and what
- 2:31Speaker 3: her accomplishments have how her accomplishments have actually changed our
- 2:36Speaker 3: way of living and every discipline of life that GPS
- 2:42Speaker 3: or her technology, her accomplishments made these things possible. And
- 2:47Speaker 3: then to know that she's the last living Hidden Figure
- 2:51Speaker 3: who was not mentioned in the movie Hidden Figures. I
- 2:56Speaker 3: felt that her story needed to be told, the un
- 3:00Speaker 3: told truth about doctor Gladys West. And then from reading
- 3:04Speaker 3: the book, it just made sense to collaborate Juneteenth, what
- 3:08Speaker 3: it means, and then also the celebration of doctor West,
- 3:13Speaker 3: her book, her accomplishments on Juneteenth.
- 3:18Speaker 2: Now, let's talk about a little history on Dr West.
- 3:21Speaker 1: Born in nineteen thirty, still alive today, living in Frederickburg, Virginia.
- 3:26Speaker 2: My mistaking correct, You guys just recently visited that young lady.
- 3:29Speaker 1: I'm gonna call her a young lady because I'm want
- 3:31Speaker 1: to be that old one day, okay and go past
- 3:34Speaker 1: her okay, and she's alive and kick it.
- 3:36Speaker 2: Now. She was a person, you know. I read the book.
- 3:39Speaker 1: Words like negro colored were used throughout the book. That
- 3:43Speaker 1: was the era she grew up in, but that didn't
- 3:45Speaker 1: stop her. She went to Virginia State, which is an HBCU,
- 3:49Speaker 1: which is now Norfolk State, she wasn't satisfied. She went
- 3:54Speaker 1: and got a master. She wasn't satisfied after thirty nine
- 3:57Speaker 1: years of teaching math. And by the way, my degree
- 4:00Speaker 1: isn't math. So I really related to her and felt
- 4:03Speaker 1: a kind of kinship with my girl, doctor West.
- 4:06Speaker 2: But I didn't go.
- 4:07Speaker 1: As far as her, as far as academia. She went
- 4:09Speaker 1: and got her pha and it didn't just stop there.
- 4:13Speaker 1: But before we I just wanted let everybody know who
- 4:15Speaker 1: we're talking about.
- 4:16Speaker 2: Now.
- 4:17Speaker 1: I want to slide over to Jackie and tell us
- 4:18Speaker 1: about June t you're a humanitarian, talk to us about juet.
- 4:24Speaker 4: Well, you know, it's like you said in the introduction,
- 4:28Speaker 4: Juneteenth is about the delayed freedom of African Americans, and
- 4:34Speaker 4: that in a nutshell, just speaks loudly in terms of
- 4:40Speaker 4: why it needs to be celebrated, why people like doctor
- 4:43Speaker 4: West needs to be included in that, because it's like
- 4:47Speaker 4: a delayed recognition delayed freedom. And what doctor West represents
- 4:53Speaker 4: is the quiet, often overlooked brilliance that changes the world.
- 5:00Speaker 4: And when you think about June teenth and all of
- 5:02Speaker 4: that hidden talent, all of that hidden opportunity, all of
- 5:05Speaker 4: that suppressed talent, you can't help but to revere June
- 5:11Speaker 4: teenth and think about all of the talent, all of
- 5:14Speaker 4: the hidden figures, all of the various careers and the
- 5:20Speaker 4: inventions that were suppressed that we now have an opportunity
- 5:24Speaker 4: to speak to. And when we think about doctor West
- 5:28Speaker 4: in this meeting her, she represents the fact that you
- 5:34Speaker 4: don't have to be loud to be a legacy. And
- 5:38Speaker 4: that's what I actually got from her, is that she
- 5:41Speaker 4: is just so humble, but she's just brilliant. She's like
- 5:44Speaker 4: a mathematical genius.
- 5:46Speaker 2: No no, no, don't use the word light is yes yes, yes, yes, yes, math.
- 5:53Speaker 1: I know there's certain limits to Rasha McDonald when he
- 5:56Speaker 1: comes to math. I may have a degree, but was
- 5:59Speaker 1: happy to want with that degree. Yes, she undergraduate degree.
- 6:03Speaker 1: I wasn't talking about getting the masters. I wasn't talking
- 6:06Speaker 1: about getting a PhD. Because she talked about that when
- 6:09Speaker 1: she went back and got our PhD. And she was
- 6:12Speaker 1: in the class. Of course, she was in the class
- 6:14Speaker 1: and basically the only person of color in the class,
- 6:18Speaker 1: and she was competing with a lot of pwi's, which
- 6:21Speaker 1: is predominant white institution graduates. And she herself was surprised
- 6:27Speaker 1: as how things that they were having difficulty with she
- 6:31Speaker 1: fould rather easy, she Folt rather normal. But that goes
- 6:35Speaker 1: back to her training, and that goes back to how
- 6:37Speaker 1: people raise you. I want to go back to you, Robert,
- 6:40Speaker 1: because you've had a lot of conflicts in your personal
- 6:42Speaker 1: life to be the person that you are today. But
- 6:45Speaker 1: it all goes back to that village and how people
- 6:49Speaker 1: come into your life at certain points and then inspire
- 6:51Speaker 1: you to be the great person you are today. That's
- 6:54Speaker 1: what you got the Presidential Lifetime Achievement Awards.
- 6:57Speaker 2: Talk to a Robert.
- 7:00Speaker 3: Story I resonated with immediately because again thinking about it,
- 7:05Speaker 3: she went from a sharecropper to a GPS premier and
- 7:12Speaker 3: all of the struggle, all of the setbacks, disappointments, all
- 7:18Speaker 3: of those things that she had to go through. So
- 7:20Speaker 3: again her story resonated with me. And to know that
- 7:25Speaker 3: you can be someone from humble beginnings and change the world,
- 7:31Speaker 3: that is my mission. That's also the mission now, yes.
- 7:35Speaker 1: And your mission is also tied to STEM. Why is
- 7:38Speaker 1: that so important?
- 7:41Speaker 3: If our kids are not pursuing STEM careers now, they
- 7:49Speaker 3: will be lost. And I'm a firm believer that our
- 7:53Speaker 3: kids they're not pursuing high paying STEM careers, not because
- 7:57Speaker 3: of their aptitude, it's simply because they have not been exposed.
- 8:01Speaker 3: So this is my mission in life to expose these kids.
- 8:05Speaker 3: Whether they articulate toward a STEM career or not, they
- 8:10Speaker 3: will have been exposed and so therefore now they have
- 8:13Speaker 3: a choice. But STEM education is so very important. And
- 8:17Speaker 3: then also looking at the trend where everything is going
- 8:21Speaker 3: everything is robotics. It used to be a time when
- 8:23Speaker 3: I was growing up that I had only to compete
- 8:26Speaker 3: with the kids that rode my school bus or that
- 8:29Speaker 3: attended my high school. But now you have to compete
- 8:33Speaker 3: with anyone who can apply for that job online.
- 8:37Speaker 1: Also robots, right, you know, it's kind of it's really
- 8:42Speaker 1: I should say, funny, but life does allow you to
- 8:46Speaker 1: We're living my life. Born in the fifties, lived in
- 8:48Speaker 1: the sixties, you know, went to high school, graduated in
- 8:52Speaker 1: the seventies, went to college and graduated in the eighties,
- 8:55Speaker 1: and lived my life. To see but one time where
- 8:59Speaker 1: a watch was the cartoon version of Dick Tracy is
- 9:03Speaker 1: now something we well, people were talking via video now.
- 9:06Speaker 1: You know, Jackie, you know you wrote a book about
- 9:10Speaker 1: AI technology consuming people's lives that really has had a
- 9:15Speaker 1: major impact over the world. Tell everybody about that book.
- 9:18Speaker 1: But also GPS, which is doctor West had a major
- 9:23Speaker 1: say in the development of the GPS, which we use
- 9:27Speaker 1: every day. But sometimes technology is good if we use
- 9:31Speaker 1: it right, but could also be overwhelming. Let's talk about that, Jack,
- 9:35Speaker 1: because that's your expertise, young lady, mental health.
- 9:39Speaker 4: You know, it's interesting. When I was listening to you,
- 9:42Speaker 4: listen to you speak, doctor West said that she rarely
- 9:46Speaker 4: used her GPS system to get around. She liked to
- 9:49Speaker 4: use maps in those types of things because she didn't
- 9:52Speaker 4: want to use She didn't want to lose that critical
- 9:56Speaker 4: thinking and those her cognitive abilities by depending on a
- 10:00Speaker 4: tool set. And so when you think about the question
- 10:03Speaker 4: that you just asked about AI and mental health and
- 10:07Speaker 4: all of that, that's exactly what she's saying. Is you
- 10:10Speaker 4: put it in context when Robin was saying that our
- 10:15Speaker 4: kids today are not embracing and understanding technology in a
- 10:18Speaker 4: way that compliments them. They are really being left behind.
- 10:23Speaker 4: And so when being left behind and using it inaccurately,
- 10:28Speaker 4: it is causing a mental health crisis. It's causing us
- 10:31Speaker 4: to lose that. And what doctor West is teaching us
- 10:36Speaker 4: with her inventions is you can have brilliants, but everything
- 10:40Speaker 4: has a place, and it's meant to compliment you and
- 10:44Speaker 4: not to take over everything that you do.
- 10:46Speaker 3: You still need to.
- 10:47Speaker 4: Have a hand in building your house.
- 10:49Speaker 2: Well, you know it's important that you say that.
- 10:51Speaker 1: Let's talk about GPS, you know, because I tell you
- 10:54Speaker 1: sometimes the other day I just had to stop.
- 10:57Speaker 2: I just stop, as Richard stopped.
- 10:58Speaker 1: When you to depend then on GPS, I will tell you,
- 11:01Speaker 1: Robert and Jackie, I will go and I would use
- 11:05Speaker 1: GPS and would not know how to get back because
- 11:08Speaker 1: I was laugh right, you know, drive this point, go
- 11:13Speaker 1: to this point where when I grew up. If you
- 11:15Speaker 1: just told me, Rashan, you know, I ten. I was
- 11:18Speaker 1: born in Houston, Texas, so I it was a major freeway.
- 11:21Speaker 1: Go down to this street, make a left at the kmart,
- 11:25Speaker 1: and then going down to make a left at the
- 11:27Speaker 1: gas station. I'll be the third house on the right
- 11:30Speaker 1: with the address. That's how I grew up. That was
- 11:32Speaker 1: my GPS, with words that were even written on the
- 11:35Speaker 1: paper or somebody told me on telephone. Today, Rushan McDonald's
- 11:40Speaker 1: been so captivated by technology that if I go somewhere
- 11:44Speaker 1: via GPS, I can't even get back home.
- 11:46Speaker 2: Okay, and that's what you're talking about.
- 11:48Speaker 3: Right, Jackie.
- 11:50Speaker 4: Okay, Okay. So GPS stands for Global Positioning System and
- 11:55Speaker 4: so it's comprised of satellites that speak to stations here
- 11:59Speaker 4: on Earth. And so when when Robin was speaking to
- 12:04Speaker 4: me about doctor West, because she introduced doctor West to
- 12:07Speaker 4: me because I was not familiar with her, and when
- 12:09Speaker 4: she told me about it, I had to go and
- 12:11Speaker 4: look it up. And when I did, she said, I
- 12:13Speaker 4: would really like to help elevate this technology in doctor West.
- 12:19Speaker 4: And so when I read about her, I was like absolutely,
- 12:22Speaker 4: So we came together and collaborated and developed a program
- 12:26Speaker 4: for young kids based upon the principles that doctor West
- 12:31Speaker 4: used and developing the GPS, and we called it westward
- 12:34Speaker 4: Bound and using the principles from her her last name,
- 12:39Speaker 4: her acronym, which which focuses more on like wisdom and
- 12:45Speaker 4: execution and accuracy. It's about having a vision about where
- 12:51Speaker 4: you're going, a position of starting point, which a lot
- 12:54Speaker 4: of our young kids they don't have. And so that's
- 12:57Speaker 4: where Robin and now we collaborated a lot in terms
- 13:00Speaker 4: of being able to pull this program together based upon
- 13:04Speaker 4: the work that she did with GPS.
- 13:07Speaker 1: Now let me tell you the Robert You're always getting
- 13:09Speaker 1: your hands into something. Miss Stem, miss nationally recognized as
- 13:14Speaker 1: a presidential Lifetime Achieving Wards.
- 13:16Speaker 2: You know I got my way back twenty three, twenty two.
- 13:20Speaker 2: You know it's twenty.
- 13:20Speaker 1: Twenty five talking to day Jack five. You know she's
- 13:24Speaker 1: very current in her celebrations. Now, how did you how
- 13:27Speaker 1: did you find out about doctor West?
- 13:30Speaker 3: Well, it was three years ago during our summer camps,
- 13:33Speaker 3: our architectural camps. Her and her husband were the.
- 13:38Speaker 1: Slow down one minute tell us about the architectural camps.
- 13:41Speaker 1: Because I love talking to Robin. She had blow past
- 13:43Speaker 1: the value points because people need to know how great
- 13:46Speaker 1: you are. What are the architectural camps?
- 13:48Speaker 3: Okay, So my background, I'm an architectural designer and builder,
- 13:52Speaker 3: and with me, I find the Stem and everything. So
- 13:56Speaker 3: this particular summer we were a whole seen a global
- 14:01Speaker 3: camp at that time. We were in several different countries
- 14:04Speaker 3: and a couple of time zones, and her and her
- 14:08Speaker 3: husband were guest speakers. And when she saw all of
- 14:12Speaker 3: those beautiful black boys and girls on the zoom, call Robin,
- 14:18Speaker 3: I have to get the book into their hands. I said, Okay,
- 14:23Speaker 3: I can help you.
- 14:23Speaker 5: Do that.
- 14:24Speaker 3: She says, I want to get it into libraries and
- 14:27Speaker 3: every place else. I said, well, doctor West, you asking
- 14:31Speaker 3: me you doctor West right, and said, God asks Moses
- 14:38Speaker 3: to build the arc. And so from that that has
- 14:41Speaker 3: been my quest to put doctor West on the map
- 14:45Speaker 3: in honor and just educate, educate, educate on who she is,
- 14:51Speaker 3: what she has done, and then see yourself within her
- 14:55Speaker 3: story because it's so so relatable. And from that, from
- 15:01Speaker 3: meeting her, I just took on that mission. And again
- 15:06Speaker 3: when I met Jackie, I understand that she's an amazing
- 15:11Speaker 3: curriculum content writer and when I talked to her about
- 15:17Speaker 3: what we wanted to do, and she just took a
- 15:20Speaker 3: whole holistic approach to it. And as a result, we
- 15:23Speaker 3: have an amazing West Profound program that not only is
- 15:29Speaker 3: useful for the youth, but even adults, or even adults
- 15:32Speaker 3: that are entrepreneurs or anyone that is wanting to change
- 15:37Speaker 3: their lot in life. The book is going to give
- 15:39Speaker 3: you a step by step on how to do it.
- 15:43Speaker 5: Please don't go anywhere. We'll be right back with more
- 15:47Speaker 5: Money Making Conversations Masterclass. Welcome back to the Money Making
- 15:57Speaker 5: Conversations Masterclass hosted by Rashan McDonald.
- 16:01Speaker 2: The books we're talking too, I want to give people
- 16:02Speaker 2: a computer.
- 16:03Speaker 1: We're talking about two books, the Westwood Bound Book and
- 16:06Speaker 1: then we also have it Began with a Dream. Is
- 16:08Speaker 1: the book that doctor West asked you to put into
- 16:12Speaker 1: these students' hands.
- 16:13Speaker 2: It was doctor Gladys B. West.
- 16:15Speaker 1: It's a memoir about her life how they all started.
- 16:19Speaker 1: But like I said, she was born in nineteen thirty,
- 16:21Speaker 1: so she walked through a lot of territories that today
- 16:24Speaker 1: we would stay. That's unfortunately I couldn't exist. I wouldell people.
- 16:28Speaker 1: I don't know if I could survived some of the
- 16:31Speaker 1: environments that these young people lived in and thrived in.
- 16:35Speaker 2: And she went to an HPCU. She pledged.
- 16:38Speaker 1: Aka she is a foundation was built through relationships, through mentory.
- 16:46Speaker 2: That's what you two ladies do.
- 16:48Speaker 1: Mentorship, like I said, didn't start last week with social media.
- 16:51Speaker 1: Mentionship has been important because she talks about the power
- 16:54Speaker 1: couple that was at Virginia State that enables her to
- 16:58Speaker 1: be the person she is today. So when you when
- 17:01Speaker 1: you talk about relationships, Jackie, this westward Bound program, how
- 17:05Speaker 1: does one register for I said, westbound apologize?
- 17:09Speaker 4: So the west Redbound, of course, is an educational program.
- 17:13Speaker 4: It's a life skills program. And let me just tell
- 17:16Speaker 4: you that the the the West Rebound component of it
- 17:22Speaker 4: is it complements like the STEM programs that people teach.
- 17:27Speaker 4: So we don't just teach history or SKIM or STEM
- 17:31Speaker 4: skills or soft skills. We really teach soul's skills, which
- 17:37Speaker 4: is what doctor West talked to us about. It's about
- 17:40Speaker 4: being able to reach these kids in a different way.
- 17:46Speaker 4: And so the way to actually get the program is
- 17:49Speaker 4: just to reach out to UH through Robin's program, the
- 17:53Speaker 4: STEM Exposure and sign up for it, and well we
- 17:58Speaker 4: can work it from there. We're are working with a
- 18:00Speaker 4: couple of universities. We're from the NDA, so we can't
- 18:04Speaker 4: really speak about that. Who are interested in being able
- 18:08Speaker 4: to bring these programs to their outreach programs as well.
- 18:12Speaker 2: Now, Robert, what's the website?
- 18:14Speaker 3: W w dot s t E m x p O
- 18:20Speaker 3: s u r E dot org.
- 18:24Speaker 2: One more time, w dot.
- 18:26Speaker 3: S t E m x p O s u r
- 18:30Speaker 3: E dot org.
- 18:33Speaker 1: A great, Robert, what that being said, how does the
- 18:35Speaker 1: program intentionally support underserved communities and address equity and STEM
- 18:42Speaker 1: and life skills When you bring the removal d I
- 18:46Speaker 1: an opportunity to access program.
- 18:50Speaker 3: Hmm, can you accept one more time? You have a
- 18:54Speaker 3: couple you have had a little add on to that
- 18:56Speaker 3: hold on.
- 18:57Speaker 1: Because I added on j I or added that on
- 19:00Speaker 1: because of the fact that there's so many programs have
- 19:03Speaker 1: been taken away by this current administration. And I've always
- 19:07Speaker 1: told people, if you teach and you give people access,
- 19:10Speaker 1: then they don't need the because they can compete properly.
- 19:14Speaker 1: So I'm asking you, you guys have established this program
- 19:17Speaker 1: in relationship I'm talking of westwood Bound in relationship with Jackie,
- 19:21Speaker 1: is that how does this program intentionally support underserved communities?
- 19:27Speaker 3: That's our target market, That's who we are looking to
- 19:33Speaker 3: help with this book. And I feel that by studying
- 19:38Speaker 3: the Westwardbound Principles, going through each one of the modules,
- 19:43Speaker 3: as Jackie mentioned earlier, it is helping you step by
- 19:48Speaker 3: step position yourself. So again, whether you're trying to economically
- 19:53Speaker 3: or educationally, this book is your step by step guide
- 19:58Speaker 3: on how to do so.
- 20:01Speaker 1: I have to ask this question, and either want Jackie
- 20:03Speaker 1: or Robie could answer this question. How long has the
- 20:06Speaker 1: program been in existence?
- 20:09Speaker 4: We began collaborating and developing the program earlier this last
- 20:14Speaker 4: year and so I would say about I would say
- 20:18Speaker 4: about six months.
- 20:20Speaker 2: Six months.
- 20:21Speaker 1: So Robert, within that period, have you been able to
- 20:23Speaker 1: see any transformations. Have you been able to witness the
- 20:26Speaker 1: students and how they've responded to the program?
- 20:29Speaker 3: Well, we have not actually had a class. However, throughout
- 20:35Speaker 3: the camp we exercised those same principles and actually I
- 20:39Speaker 3: speak of it every day and for the students and
- 20:45Speaker 3: I'll say six students that I have exposed it to.
- 20:48Speaker 3: It's really a relief because not only the Westward bounce.
- 20:54Speaker 3: But let me first go there, but we first talked
- 20:56Speaker 3: about doctor West and her concerns, her resilience that she
- 21:00Speaker 3: had to overcome, and who she is today. And then
- 21:04Speaker 3: from that westbrook Bound Now they understand who they are,
- 21:10Speaker 3: what they can do, and they actually have their i'll
- 21:16Speaker 3: say their map planned out. So for example, yesterday we
- 21:21Speaker 3: were talking about we're in an architectural camp and we
- 21:24Speaker 3: were talking about all of the different disciplines that you
- 21:29Speaker 3: can pursue, and there was one wanted to pursue engineering.
- 21:34Speaker 3: So again using the westbrook Bound principles, we identified what
- 21:39Speaker 3: classes you're taking next year once you go back to school,
- 21:43Speaker 3: what other classes you need to sign up for in
- 21:46Speaker 3: order to go to the junior college and get your
- 21:49Speaker 3: AA and then go off to a major university pursuing
- 21:53Speaker 3: the engineering path. So that's where that book is going
- 21:57Speaker 3: to be very, very helpful for the students that are
- 22:00Speaker 3: in my class, for any of the students that are
- 22:03Speaker 3: reading the books.
- 22:06Speaker 1: Let me tell it, my guests, let me bring you
- 22:08Speaker 1: everybody up to speed. As doctor Jackie Rushan, She's an
- 22:11Speaker 1: award winning business executive, author, mental health professional, and humanitarian educator.
- 22:18Speaker 1: The voice you just heard was Robin Donaldson. She received
- 22:21Speaker 1: a twenty twenty five President Lifetime Achieving Award for contributions
- 22:26Speaker 1: to STEM education globally. Jackie is based in Atlanta and
- 22:31Speaker 1: Robin is based out in Deep Florida. Down that in Florida,
- 22:34Speaker 1: not in the Tip area. Now, when as we talk
- 22:37Speaker 1: about what we're trying to achieve here, you know, June teenth.
- 22:41Speaker 2: That's a day.
- 22:42Speaker 1: I'm from Houston, Texas, so that was the first day
- 22:45Speaker 1: they acknowledged June Team. So I'm very a champion of that.
- 22:49Speaker 1: When it went national, at the time President Joe Biden
- 22:53Speaker 1: signed off over, it was like an extended celebration for me.
- 22:58Speaker 2: But that commemorates you know the end.
- 23:00Speaker 1: Of slavery right now, we are celebrating academic success in
- 23:06Speaker 1: the African American community, now, Jackie as a humanitarian, as
- 23:11Speaker 1: an educator, because you on this call, I can assure
- 23:15Speaker 1: you got more degrees in both me and rob Okay,
- 23:19Speaker 1: What does that mean when we talk about a liberation,
- 23:23Speaker 1: well emancipation where slavery was happening in the eighteen sixty
- 23:27Speaker 1: five and we're talking about a person like doctor Gladys
- 23:32Speaker 1: West and somebody who contributed to something GPS that is
- 23:38Speaker 1: not going away. It's been used by the military for
- 23:41Speaker 1: years prior to becoming used by everyday people. How can
- 23:48Speaker 1: we continue to train moving forward in a positive direction
- 23:53Speaker 1: so it benefits everybody, not just black.
- 23:56Speaker 4: Well, the program really is it is transcendent. In other words,
- 24:05Speaker 4: it really is not just for black people. It's just
- 24:09Speaker 4: that we happen to be talking about underserved communities. Those principles,
- 24:13Speaker 4: the West principles, if you think about them, W is
- 24:17Speaker 4: for wisdom. We're talking about wisdom endurance strategy tracking. Everybody
- 24:23Speaker 4: needs that and it really is for every person. As
- 24:26Speaker 4: a matter of fact, with that program, I use it
- 24:29Speaker 4: during my addictions counseling because it's all about endurance. When
- 24:35Speaker 4: you talk about liberation and emancipation, all of that to
- 24:39Speaker 4: me is spiritual work. It's about the thing that you
- 24:43Speaker 4: need to anchor you. It's the difference between climbing and ascension.
- 24:50Speaker 4: So basically, if you think about our STEM programs from
- 24:53Speaker 4: a career perspective, which is what we typically focus a
- 24:56Speaker 4: lot when we deal with children, which everybody focuses on,
- 25:00Speaker 4: we're talking about climbing, and there are different behaviors that
- 25:06Speaker 4: you have when you're climbing if it's not anchored in ascension,
- 25:10Speaker 4: which is what the west Were Bound program is about,
- 25:13Speaker 4: because that's what anchors you in terms of endurance, in
- 25:16Speaker 4: terms of revealed of resilience. Because the world is not
- 25:20Speaker 4: designed to make it easy for us. Doctor West said
- 25:24Speaker 4: told us when we were talking with her that when
- 25:26Speaker 4: she was a young girl, she stood in the field
- 25:29Speaker 4: working and she just knew that she did not want
- 25:34Speaker 4: to be in that field work. And this is a
- 25:36Speaker 4: girl about eight or nine years old. She knew that
- 25:39Speaker 4: there was something that was greater than this. And so
- 25:43Speaker 4: what the Westward Bound program says is you have to
- 25:47Speaker 4: think greater. You have to believe that there is something
- 25:51Speaker 4: greater than what you're standing and when we're talking about
- 25:54Speaker 4: liberation emancipation in juneteenth, that is how all that that
- 25:58Speaker 4: came together because people believe that there was so much
- 26:01Speaker 4: more to what they can achieve than where they were.
- 26:05Speaker 4: And so to me, that's key in terms of connecting
- 26:12Speaker 4: all of this together. All of these degrees mean nothing
- 26:16Speaker 4: if you're not grounded from a spiritual perspective in terms
- 26:19Speaker 4: of the things that are going to keep you going.
- 26:21Speaker 4: When you fall from the clime, you need something to
- 26:24Speaker 4: anchor and balance you.
- 26:26Speaker 2: Now, Robert, you got us all involved. Now, it was
- 26:29Speaker 2: kind of like a three sixty. You know, you took
- 26:31Speaker 2: the idea of the Jackie.
- 26:32Speaker 1: Then Jackie knew me, then you became Now we're on
- 26:36Speaker 1: this call promoting it now because you mentioned due to
- 26:40Speaker 1: the NDA, you could not tell me about the opportunities
- 26:44Speaker 1: that you're working with a couple of universities. Now, Robert,
- 26:48Speaker 1: you brought the idea to Jackie the Westwood Bound program.
- 26:52Speaker 1: Can other communities contact you or Jackie and try to
- 26:57Speaker 1: get more information on how they can bring this. Because
- 26:59Speaker 1: I was growing up they had an upward bound program.
- 27:02Speaker 1: It wasn't a stimulated program, but it was a game
- 27:06Speaker 1: motivational getting kids, exposure them to college life, letting them
- 27:10Speaker 1: know there was more than what they had in their
- 27:12Speaker 1: community out there. There's a bigger world out there. So
- 27:15Speaker 1: I'm very familiar with motivational camps. But again, this is
- 27:21Speaker 1: the Westwood Bound camp. How can other communities contact you
- 27:25Speaker 1: to find out more about this as well as getting
- 27:28Speaker 1: doctor Gladys westbook.
- 27:29Speaker 3: I'm glad that you asked that question. So I can
- 27:32Speaker 3: be contacted at area code eight one three nine nine
- 27:37Speaker 3: zero seven seven zero zero, and I can be emailed
- 27:44Speaker 3: at executive at stem exposure dot org. And also there
- 27:51Speaker 3: is I can share of Saint Pete College is a
- 27:55Speaker 3: local community college here. There are seven locations and I
- 28:00Speaker 3: asked the provost if he would assist in helping put
- 28:03Speaker 3: doctor Wes on the map, and he said, well sure.
- 28:07Speaker 3: So what happened was he had all seven of his
- 28:11Speaker 3: campuses in their auditorium and they viewed. They had the
- 28:16Speaker 3: opportunity to watch the movie Hidden Figures. Each one of
- 28:22Speaker 3: the students were gifted a book and then we had
- 28:25Speaker 3: a guest speaker, which was doctor wes daughter who was
- 28:29Speaker 3: also a mathematician, so she was able to speak to
- 28:32Speaker 3: you know, the life of growing up with doctor Gladys
- 28:35Speaker 3: West and then also you know what made her become
- 28:40Speaker 3: a mathematician and also speak to the book. And so
- 28:45Speaker 3: that was one way that we were able to put
- 28:47Speaker 3: doctor Wes on the map. And we are also asking
- 28:51Speaker 3: anyone that is hosting a Juneteenth event, whatever you're doing,
- 28:57Speaker 3: make sure that doctor West is the focus.
- 29:02Speaker 2: Cool.
- 29:02Speaker 1: Well, I want to thank you both ladies for coming
- 29:05Speaker 1: on my show discussing this incredible story.
- 29:07Speaker 2: I didn't know.
- 29:08Speaker 1: I read the book and actually read the book this
- 29:11Speaker 1: morning prior to the interview.
- 29:12Speaker 2: It's a great read. Is a memoir.
- 29:15Speaker 1: I guess when you're reading about the history and you're
- 29:16Speaker 1: reading about the incredible heights, you know it will it
- 29:20Speaker 1: will keep your attention because again I did not know this,
- 29:25Speaker 1: and there's always information that makes you shine a bit
- 29:28Speaker 1: brighter when you are educated beyond your own natural thought process. Again, Jackie,
- 29:33Speaker 1: dear friend, thank you for coming on Money Making Conversation
- 29:35Speaker 1: master Class. And my new dear friend Robin, thank you
- 29:39Speaker 1: for you know, bringing this attention to it because Jackie
- 29:42Speaker 1: didn't know.
- 29:43Speaker 2: I didn't know.
- 29:43Speaker 1: But what we do know it began with a dream
- 29:47Speaker 1: doctor Gladys by West. That's a memoir and I recommend
- 29:50Speaker 1: people to pick it up so their children and they
- 29:53Speaker 1: can know that the history has been made every day
- 29:56Speaker 1: and people of color are making a difference in this world.
- 29:59Speaker 2: Yes, thank you for coming on Money Making Conversations.
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