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Trump's Iran Address, Pam Bondi Leaving & ActBlue Facing Criminal Liability · The Ben Ferguson Podcast

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Speaker 1: And the President addressed the nation this week made it
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Speaker 1: very clear we're going to wrap things up with Iran,
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Speaker 1: but we also got some works till they get done well.
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Speaker 2: The President gave a national address talking about Iran, what
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Speaker 2: we're accomplishing, what the goals are, and I got to say,
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Speaker 2: if you're a caveman, the president's address was very very
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Speaker 2: good news. But if you're an Ayatola, if you are
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Speaker 2: a radical mulla who chanced death to America, the President's
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Speaker 2: address was terrible news. We're going to break it down,
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Speaker 2: tell you exactly what he said, what it means for
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Speaker 2: the Iran war, where things are going. We're also going
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Speaker 1: President trump came. Out he addressed nation about thirty one
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Speaker 1: days after he kind of told us what was going
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Speaker 1: to go on when we were going Into iran and
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Speaker 1: what the goals and objectives. Were he was giving an
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Speaker 1: update to The american. PEOPLE i really genuinely love this
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Speaker 1: level of transparency and also explaining where we, are what
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Speaker 1: is still. Left AND i think it landed pretty, well
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Speaker 1: especially with people that voted for The.
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Speaker 2: President, YEAH i think that's. Right The president said exactly
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Speaker 2: what we're doing and what's coming next, here give a.
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Speaker 3: Listen thanks to the progress we've, MADE i can say
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Speaker 3: tonight that we are on track to complete all Of
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Speaker 3: america's military objectives, shortly very. Shortly we're going to hit
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Speaker 3: them extremely hard over the next two to three. Weeks
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Speaker 3: we're going to bring them back to The Stone ages
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Speaker 3: where they. Belong.
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Speaker 1: Center for anybody that wants, transparency you don't get any
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Speaker 1: more transparent than this. President he's, like, yes we have
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Speaker 1: the upper hand to the level where he can literally
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Speaker 1: just say To, iran this is what we're going to
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Speaker 1: do to. You if you don't agree to, this if
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Speaker 1: you don't open the straight of their Horn, moons well guess.
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Speaker 1: What we're gonna bomb the living snot out of. You
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Speaker 1: and we're not. BLUFFING i love the fact that this
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Speaker 1: president is just being like this, transparent not just with,
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Speaker 1: us but like with the rest of the world as.
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Speaker 2: Well look that that's important for our enemies to. Hear
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Speaker 2: it's important for our friends to. Hear imagine for a,
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Speaker 2: second you are the Current. Iatola the Previous iahtola has
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Speaker 2: gone to meet his. Maker you're the New, iahtola and you're, Thinking,
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Speaker 2: okay we've made it through four weeks of. This this
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Speaker 2: is about to be over The americans are about to.
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Speaker 2: Stop and then you turn on THE, tv you turn
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Speaker 2: on the, internet and you see him, say we're going
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Speaker 2: to bomb you back to The Stone. Age, look that's
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Speaker 2: not encouraging for the people who chant death To. America
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Speaker 2: that is that that is extremely. Dismaying they're holding on
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Speaker 2: by their. Fingernails and he's being clear that they're gonna hit,
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Speaker 2: very very. Hard now he's also being clear this is
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Speaker 2: gonna last a couple of. Weeks it's not gonna last months,
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Speaker 2: more it's not gonna last a year or. Longer he's
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Speaker 2: gonna pound the hell out of for the next couple of.
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Speaker 2: Weeks and and you, know for the handful of online,
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Speaker 2: critics AND i do want to, say the press loves
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Speaker 2: to say there's a civil war Among republicans On President
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Speaker 2: trump Attacking. Iran that is objectively. False if you look
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Speaker 2: at the, polling the support is between eighty five percent
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Speaker 2: and ninety percent Of republicans support what the president is.
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Speaker 2: Doing that's not a civil. War they're just a handful
5:25
Speaker 2: of really loud, voices self proclaim influencers and. Podcasters by the,
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Speaker 2: way can you stand a podcast? Podcaster what are an annoying
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Speaker 2: class of human. Being the.
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Speaker 1: Podcasters, yeah they quoted a lot when you need, them
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Speaker 1: right like. That, well there's a lot Of republican podcasters
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Speaker 1: THAT i describe as useful idiots for the left whenever
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Speaker 1: they need.
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Speaker 2: One they're.
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Speaker 1: People it's like they raise their hand, like, Oh i'll
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Speaker 1: do that for, You Like i'll say that for you
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Speaker 1: as long as you get my name out. There it's truly.
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Speaker 2: Incredible, yeah these self proclaimed podcasters are fond of, saying,
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Speaker 2: Oh President trump has changed his. View he's changed his
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Speaker 2: view because he's a puppet that others are pulling his. Strings, well,
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Speaker 2: look the president Was claire also in his national. Address
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Speaker 2: this has been his view for a long long. Time,
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Speaker 2: here give a.
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Speaker 3: Listen from the very first DAY i announced my campaign
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Speaker 3: for president in twenty, FIFTEEN i have vowed THAT i
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Speaker 3: would never Allow iran to have a nuclear. Weapon this
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Speaker 3: fannacular regime has been chanting death To, america death To
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Speaker 3: israel for forty seven. Years their proxies were behind the
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Speaker 3: murder of two hundred and forty One americans and The
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Speaker 3: marine barracks bombing In, beirut the slaughter of hundreds of
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Speaker 3: our service members with roadside, bombs they were involved in
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Speaker 3: the attack on THE uss coal and they're carried out
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Speaker 3: the countless other heinous, acts including the blood just, horrible
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Speaker 3: bloody atrocities Of october seventh In, israel something that most
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Speaker 3: people have never seen anything like. It this murderer's regime
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Speaker 3: also recently killed forty five thousand of their own people
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Speaker 3: who were protesting In. Iran forty five thousand. Did for
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Speaker 3: these terrorists to have nuclear weapons would be an intolerable.
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Speaker 3: Threat the most violent and thuggish regime on earth would
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Speaker 3: be free to carry out their campaigns of, terror, coercion,
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Speaker 3: conquest and mass murder from behind a nuclear. SHIELD i
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Speaker 3: will never let that, happen and neither should any of
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Speaker 3: our past. Presidents you, know.
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Speaker 1: The only difference Between Donald trump and the past presidence
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Speaker 1: they just mentioned there is every other president has said
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Speaker 1: that you can't allow a ray to get a nuclear
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Speaker 1: weapon and that they are a threat to this country.
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Speaker 1: Directly the only difference Is Donald trump actually did what
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Speaker 1: he said he was going to, do and he was
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Speaker 1: going to stop. Them the other ones did. Not they tried,
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Speaker 1: appeasement they tried just kind of looking the other. Way
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Speaker 1: none of it. Works since nineteen seventy, Nine so now
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Speaker 1: he's doing. It that's literally the only difference.
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Speaker 2: Here, well, Listen President trump has been absolutely, clear as
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Speaker 2: he pointed, out going back to when he launched his
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Speaker 2: first presidential campaign in twenty. Fifteen twenty fifteen was eleven years.
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Speaker 2: Ago so the naysayers online who claim there's some like
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Speaker 2: magical Realization Donald trump has, had have not listened to
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Speaker 2: him year after year after year for more than a.
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Speaker 2: Decade when he Said iran will not get nuclear, weapons
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Speaker 2: he meant, it and he's. Acting he's carrying out on.
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Speaker 3: That right.
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Speaker 1: NOW i want to Play devil's advocate with you because
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Speaker 1: there's a lot of people and some of those on
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Speaker 1: the right that have said this, like we didn't need
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Speaker 1: to go, now this was Just Donald trump wanting to
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Speaker 1: get into some sort of war and this was bad
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Speaker 1: timing by. Him so let me ask. You for people
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Speaker 1: that are saying why, now explain why now made?
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Speaker 2: Sense, well there were two factors that were really. Critical Number,
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Speaker 2: one As President trump mentioned just a minute, ago and
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Speaker 2: as he said for eleven, years we cannot Allow iran
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Speaker 2: to get nuclear. Weapons that when The iyatola chanted death To,
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Speaker 2: america we have every reason to believe. Him The iranian
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Speaker 2: regime is killed nearly a Thousand. Americans they have been
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Speaker 2: the number one state funder of terrorism. Worldwide if they
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Speaker 2: had a nuclear, weapon the odds are unacceptably high they
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Speaker 2: would use.
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Speaker 3: It.
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Speaker 2: Now a month, ago they were not on the verge
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Speaker 2: of acquiring nuclear. Weapons last, year during The Twelve Day,
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Speaker 2: War President trump ordered OUR b two bombers to fly
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Speaker 2: halfway around the, world and we dropped bunker busters on
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Speaker 2: their nuclear weapons research, facilities PARTICULARLY, fordao WHICH fordao is
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Speaker 2: a secret research. Bunker it was built under a mountain
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Speaker 2: and it was built to withstand bombing attacks Because israel
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Speaker 2: did not have bombs big enough to take OUT. Forda
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Speaker 2: no other country On earth had bombs big enough to
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Speaker 2: do that except for The United. States were the only
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Speaker 2: ones that had the bunker busters big enough to take it.
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Speaker 2: Out the ordinance we dropped on their nuclear research facilities
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Speaker 2: last year where the equivalent of one third of a nuclear.
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Speaker 2: Weapon we're talking, big big, bombs and we took out
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Speaker 2: their nuclear weapons. Facilities so a month ago they were
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Speaker 2: not on the verge of acquiring nuclear weapons facilities or nuclear. Weapons,
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Speaker 2: rather why Did President trump? Act Because iran was building,
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Speaker 2: missiles short range and medium range ballistic missiles at an
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Speaker 2: incredibly rapid, clip over one hundred missiles a month they were.
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Speaker 2: Building they were also.
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Speaker 1: Building, okay put that, RESPECTIVE i think people need to
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Speaker 1: understand building one hundred a, month that is like warp
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Speaker 1: speed in the ballistic missile. World people need to understand, that,
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Speaker 1: like if you're building that, many it's for a. Reason
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Speaker 1: you're going to. Ward it's not even a defensive that's
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Speaker 1: like an offensive. Posture and everybody in the world basically
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Speaker 1: agreed with.
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Speaker 2: That, well we also know now that they had missiles
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Speaker 2: that were sufficient that they could go all the way
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Speaker 2: From iran To Diego, garcia because during this war they
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Speaker 2: fired a missile At Dieo, garcia which is A British
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Speaker 2: america military base in The Chagos islands in the middle
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Speaker 2: of The Indian. Oceans that's a couple thousand miles. Away
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Speaker 2: that is the same distance From iran That paris And london,
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Speaker 2: are which meant they had missiles far enough to get
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Speaker 2: to the capital cities In. Europe they were building over
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Speaker 2: one hundred missiles a. Month they were also building vast
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Speaker 2: numbers of, drones and their plan was to have so
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Speaker 2: many missiles and so many drones that it would become
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Speaker 2: prohibitively costly to go in and take out their next
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Speaker 2: nuclear weapons research. Facility they wanted enough missiles and drones
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Speaker 2: that if we came in and took Out phase two
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Speaker 2: of the nuclear weapons research, facility they could inflict massive
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Speaker 2: casualties on their. Neighbors and look what they did when
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Speaker 2: this conflict. Started they fired missiles at, everybody not just At,
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Speaker 2: israel at every one of their. Neighbors and so The
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Speaker 2: trump administration made the determination they needed to act now
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Speaker 2: before they had so many missiles and so many drones
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Speaker 2: that there would be a massive loss of life if
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Speaker 2: we acted subsequently to take out nuclear weapons research. Facilities
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Speaker 2: that's number. One number, two The iranian regime is weaker
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Speaker 2: right now than it has been at any time during our.
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Speaker 2: Lifetime as you, KNOW i spent the entire day the
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Speaker 2: day before this conflict began With President. Trump he AND
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Speaker 2: i were together At Air Force. One we flew FROM
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Speaker 2: dc To texas, together and then he asked me to
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Speaker 2: join him in the beast in the presidential. Limo it
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Speaker 2: was just the two of, us one on. One the
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Speaker 2: entire time we were talking about what should he do In?
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Speaker 2: Iran and WHAT i was arguing to, HIM i support this,
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Speaker 2: attack AND i urge this attack. Vigorously AND i, said,
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Speaker 2: listen the regime has never been more. Vulnerable it is,
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Speaker 2: teetering and there is very, little if, anything that you
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Speaker 2: could do that would more greatly Enhance american national security
12:52
Speaker 2: than to see this Radical islamist regime, collapse to remove
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Speaker 2: from power An, ayatola who chanced death To, america who
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Speaker 2: has been Murdering americans for, years and who wants to
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Speaker 2: kill as Many americans as he.
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Speaker 1: Can all, right let me go back to another big,
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Speaker 1: question AND i would say a fallacy that's been out
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Speaker 1: there that a lot of people have been talking, about
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Speaker 1: and that, is, well it Wasn't america's role to do.
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Speaker 1: This if the neighbors were, afraid then they should have
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Speaker 1: been the. Ones we already went after their nuclear. Facilities
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Speaker 1: that's Where america should have. Stopped and if others In
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Speaker 1: europe were concerned about being hit by these missiles that
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Speaker 1: could reach them capital, cities then that's on them to do,
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Speaker 1: it Not. America why did we have to do, This
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Speaker 1: that's the isolation's Viewpoint i've.
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Speaker 2: Heard, look we weren't doing it For iran's. Neighbors we
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Speaker 2: weren't doing it For Saudi arabia OR uae Or. Cutter
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Speaker 2: we weren't doing it For, europe and we weren't doing
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Speaker 2: it For. ISRAEL i know all of the jew haters
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Speaker 2: online like to, say it's For, israel it's For, Israel
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Speaker 2: it's For. Israel The ayatola chanted death To. America he
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Speaker 2: also chanted death To. Israel but there's a reason The
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Speaker 2: ayatola Called israel the Little satan And america The Great.
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Speaker 2: SATAN i believe if The ayahtola had a nuclear, weapon
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Speaker 2: he might have detonated it In Tel aviv and killed
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Speaker 2: vast numbers Of. Israelis BUT i actually think it is
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Speaker 2: more likely if he, could he would detonate a nuclear
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Speaker 2: weapon In New York city Or Los angeles and kill
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Speaker 2: as Many americans as. Possible that, is look when he
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Speaker 2: calls us the Great, satan and understand this is not.
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Speaker 2: Hypothetical AND i want to underscore my. VIEW i, am
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Speaker 2: as a general, matter very reluctant to use military. FORCE
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Speaker 2: i think The Iraq war was a. MISTAKE i have
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Speaker 2: been vocal for a long time that The Iraq war
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Speaker 2: was a. Mistake why DO i think it was a
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Speaker 2: mistake Because Saddam hussein was not waging war against The United.
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Speaker 2: States he was not killing vast numbers Of. Americans he
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Speaker 2: was not pledging to kill vast numbers Of. Americans The
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Speaker 2: iyahtola was over ninety percent of the funding for Hamas
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Speaker 2: hesbeal and The huthis had come From. Iran they were
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Speaker 2: Murdering americans year after year after. Year they were trying
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Speaker 2: to Murder President. Trump and that is why The president.
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Speaker 2: Acted and look at all we've. Accomplished give a listen
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Speaker 2: to The president on everything we've accomplished so far.
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Speaker 3: Tonight iran's navy is, gone their air forces in, ruins their,
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Speaker 3: leaders most of them terrorist regime they, led are now,
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Speaker 3: dead their command and control of The Islamic Revolutionary Guard
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Speaker 3: corps being decimated as we. Speak their ability to launch
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Speaker 3: missiles and drones is dramatically, curtailed and their weapons factories
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Speaker 3: and rocket launchers are being blown to, pieces very few
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Speaker 3: of them. Left never in the history of warfare has
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Speaker 3: an enemy suffered such clear and, devastating large scale losses
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Speaker 3: in a matter of.
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Speaker 1: Weeks President trump being very clear THERE i want to
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Speaker 1: move on to one of the big. Headlines it's never
15:56
Speaker 1: fun when someone loses their job in the. Administry the
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Speaker 1: headline from The New York. Post pambondi speaks out for
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Speaker 1: the first time After trump fired her as The Attorney.
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Speaker 1: GENERAL i want to get your take on. This you
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Speaker 1: know her, WELL i know, Her we've had her on
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Speaker 1: this show. Before look in, cabinets there's always people that
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Speaker 1: come and. Go that's just part Of washington and. Politics
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Speaker 1: it is what it. Is there's a lot of people
16:21
Speaker 1: on the left that are just thrilled about this that they're,
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Speaker 1: oh there's a turmoil and you know. EVERYTHING i don't
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Speaker 1: think it's that way at. ALL i think this is
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Speaker 1: The president just, Saying, OKAY i want to do something
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Speaker 1: a little bit, different and he's going to move on
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Speaker 1: pretty darn.
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Speaker 2: Quick, yeah, Listen pambondy is a good friend of. MINE
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Speaker 2: i think she took on what may be the single
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Speaker 2: hardest job in the entire, administration The department Of. Justice
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Speaker 2: there is a deep state AT doj and at THE
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Speaker 2: fbi who fought her from day, one who have been
16:49
Speaker 2: waging war trying to prevent her efforts to bring back,
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Speaker 2: integrity to take the politicization out of The department Of,
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Speaker 2: justice and it's been an uphill. Battle it's been a difficult.
16:59
Speaker 2: Battle pam was someone who she was a guest On,
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Speaker 2: verdict literally when she was just a couple of weeks
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Speaker 2: into the job at a very, beginning brand new Ag
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Speaker 2: she came On verdict and was a guest and talked
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Speaker 2: to us about everything she was trying to. Accomplish you,
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Speaker 2: know she put out a tweet saying. Farewell here's What
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Speaker 2: pam had to. Say over the next, MONTH i will
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Speaker 2: be working tirelessly to transition the office Of Attorney general
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Speaker 2: to the Amazing Todd blanche before moving to an important
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Speaker 2: private sector ROLE i am thrilled about and WHERE i
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Speaker 2: will continue fighting For President trump in this. Administration Leading
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Speaker 2: President trump's historic and highly successful efforts to Make america
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Speaker 2: safer and more secure has been the honor of a
17:43
Speaker 2: lifetime and easily the most consequential first year of The
17:47
Speaker 2: department Of justice In american. History Since february twenty twenty,
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Speaker 2: five we have secured the lowest murder rate in one
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Speaker 2: hundred and twenty five, years secured first ever terrorism convictions
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Speaker 2: against members Of, antifa shattered domestic and transnational gangs across the,
18:07
Speaker 2: country taken custody of more than ninety key cartel, figures
18:12
Speaker 2: and won twenty four favorable rulings at The Supreme. COURT
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Speaker 2: i remain internally grateful for the trust That President trump
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Speaker 2: placed in me to Make america safe. Again and, LISTEN
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Speaker 2: i Think pam served. Honorably it is The president's prerogative
18:29
Speaker 2: to choose if he wants new leadership of The department Of,
18:32
Speaker 2: justice and he's made that. Choice BUT i Think pam
18:34
Speaker 2: served honorably in a very difficult. Job AND i think her,
18:39
Speaker 2: results particularly in terms of, crime in terms of going
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Speaker 2: after murderers and rapists and gang bangers and illegal, aliens
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Speaker 2: and the resulting twenty percent drop in the murder rate
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Speaker 2: is staggering and, unprecedented and it is something she should
18:56
Speaker 2: be very proud. Of i'm certain that she, is because
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Speaker 2: between that and the rate of drug overdose deaths dropping
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Speaker 2: twenty percent, nationally there are literally thousands Of americans right
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Speaker 2: now who are alive today because of the policy she
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Speaker 2: And President trump and A Republican congress put in place
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Speaker 2: securing the border and removing dangerous. Criminals that's something to
19:21
Speaker 2: be really proud.
19:21
Speaker 3: Of it.
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Speaker 1: Is and you look at my hometown For, examp WHERE
19:24
Speaker 1: i was born In, Memphis. TENNESSEE pam was there multiple.
19:27
Speaker 1: Times crime there is down forty percent year over. Year
19:30
Speaker 1: The president just went To, memphis gosh less than a
19:33
Speaker 1: week ago and talked about the success there of what
19:36
Speaker 1: he did there In, washington D. C pam was a
19:38
Speaker 1: large part of that as. Well and as you, mentioned
19:42
Speaker 1: like that's part of a. Legacy, look you AND i
19:44
Speaker 1: have known people that have come and gone in cabinets,
19:45
Speaker 1: before some of them actually. Ags i've known a couple
19:48
Speaker 1: that have lost their job after a. While it. Is
19:51
Speaker 1: it's one of the hardest jobs to. Do my former
19:54
Speaker 1: mentor IN dc Was John, ashcroft and he always didn't
19:57
Speaker 1: get along with the. President Units It's. America George bush,
20:00
Speaker 1: three and Afterwards Alberta gonzalez came. IN i, mean you,
20:03
Speaker 1: know it is part of what. HAPPENS i also, think,
20:08
Speaker 1: though based on the names we're hearing right, now somebody's
20:12
Speaker 1: gonna get this job and they're gonna do probably one
20:14
Speaker 1: hell of a job for the. President AND i do
20:17
Speaker 1: think even, now you know even more to find what
20:20
Speaker 1: The president's gonna want out of you on the on
20:22
Speaker 1: the second go round on this. One that also can
20:24
Speaker 1: be good for that individual coming.
20:25
Speaker 3: In.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, look at least right, now what's been announced That Todd,
20:30
Speaker 2: blanche who's The Deputy Attorney, general is going to be
20:32
Speaker 2: the Acting Attorney. GENERAL i don't know how long that's gonna.
20:35
Speaker 2: Last it wouldn't surprise me If President trump gives him
20:38
Speaker 2: a little bit of time to see what kind of
20:39
Speaker 2: job he, does he may end up Leaving Todd blanche
20:42
Speaker 2: in that. Role that would not shock. Me todd is
20:44
Speaker 2: a serious, lawyer has been doing a good job As
20:46
Speaker 2: Deputy Attorney. General he has been focused on a lot
20:50
Speaker 2: of the law enforcement, mission in particular locking up, criminals
20:54
Speaker 2: and SO i could see him being given a shot
20:57
Speaker 2: at the top. Job there's been other chat That Lee's.
21:00
Speaker 2: Elden Leez elden has also been a guest on this.
21:02
Speaker 2: Podcast he's the administrator of THE. Epa we had.
21:06
Speaker 1: THAT i didn't realize he's a. LAWYER i had multiple
21:09
Speaker 1: people texting Me they're, like how is the guy in THE.
21:11
Speaker 1: Epa i'm, like, well he's a, Lawyer and they had
21:13
Speaker 1: no idea he was a. LAWYER i, mean He's his
21:15
Speaker 1: name has been circulating like inside Of washington and outside
21:18
Speaker 1: Of washington as well.
21:20
Speaker 2: Well, Listen lee has done a very effective job AT.
21:23
Speaker 2: Epa and by the, way it is hard to do
21:24
Speaker 2: the job ahead of THE epa if you're not a,
21:26
Speaker 2: lawyer because it's dense and complicated laws and regulations and understanding.
21:31
Speaker 2: It And lee's been really effective in the regulatory reform
21:35
Speaker 2: agenda and in pulling back the job killing regulations that
21:39
Speaker 2: did so much damage under The biden. Administration AND i
21:43
Speaker 2: suspect that's one REASON i haven't had this conversation With President,
21:46
Speaker 2: trump BUT i suspect that's one reason why he's Considering
21:49
Speaker 2: lee's because he's been, very very effective in a, complicated
21:53
Speaker 2: difficult cabinet. Position now D oj is qualitatively. Different and,
21:59
Speaker 2: Listen i'll say for. Me you, know in the First trump,
22:02
Speaker 2: ADMINISTRATION i talked to The president quite seriously about possibly
22:09
Speaker 2: being a g and In trump. WON i went in
22:13
Speaker 2: and spent about four and a half hours In Trump
22:16
Speaker 2: tower the week after the election In november twenty, sixteen
22:19
Speaker 2: AND i had a conversation with him on a number of,
22:22
Speaker 2: fronts AND i made WHAT i would say would be
22:25
Speaker 2: a half hearted play for Ag WHAT i told him
22:29
Speaker 2: at the, time AS i, said, LISTEN i recognize back
22:32
Speaker 2: then THAT i was pretty late on the, train AND i,
22:36
Speaker 2: said there are others Like Jeff sessions Or giuliani Or.
22:40
Speaker 2: Christy if they want to be, ag you probably should
22:43
Speaker 2: should give it to. Them but if you wanted to
22:46
Speaker 2: talk to me about, This i'd be willing to have that.
22:48
Speaker 2: Conversation we did talk about. It we had a good.
22:50
Speaker 2: Conversation The president made the decision to go With Jeff.
22:53
Speaker 2: Sessions jeff was a good friend of, mine was a
22:55
Speaker 2: colleague in The. SENATE i was happy for, him AND
22:58
Speaker 2: i will tell, you in the eleven years since that,
23:01
Speaker 2: CONVERSATION i have been grateful every day since then THAT
23:05
Speaker 2: i did not go down that, path because let's be,
23:07
Speaker 2: clear IF i had become, ag you're.
23:10
Speaker 1: Gonna ask that. QUESTION i was gonna ask the question,
23:12
Speaker 1: like did you ever look back and you're, like that
23:14
Speaker 1: was the best conversation ever to be laid on the?
23:16
Speaker 3: Train?
23:17
Speaker 2: Uh, oh, yes, yes, Yes and LOOK i made a
23:20
Speaker 2: half hearted play on. PURPOSE i know how to make
23:23
Speaker 2: a full throat at, play BUT i THOUGHT i perceived
23:26
Speaker 2: the downsides of the, job AND i liked WHAT i
23:28
Speaker 2: was doing, Then SO i was, like but to be,
23:31
Speaker 2: honest the REASON i made that the half hearted play
23:34
Speaker 2: is is just for love of the. GAME i, mean,
23:36
Speaker 2: frankly the job Of attorney. GENERAL i would really enjoy that.
23:39
Speaker 2: Job it didn't make any, sense it wasn't consistent with
23:43
Speaker 2: WHAT i wanted to, do but it just would be fun.
23:47
Speaker 3: In.
23:48
Speaker 2: Hindsight SO i will tell. You nine months into, it
23:52
Speaker 2: there was a story in The New York. Times this
23:54
Speaker 2: is would have BEEN i Think august of twenty. Seventeen,
23:57
Speaker 2: OH i, REMEMBER i, remember well where you're?
23:59
Speaker 1: Going it is keep?
24:00
Speaker 2: Going and the story Said trump is thinking about Firing
24:04
Speaker 2: Jeff's sessions and he's talking To cruise about replacing, him and,
24:09
Speaker 2: Look sessions has been a friend of mine. Forever SO
24:11
Speaker 2: i Called. Jeff and by the, Way jeff knew THAT
24:14
Speaker 2: i talked to him about. It he was In Trump
24:16
Speaker 2: tower the DAY i was there talking to about. It
24:18
Speaker 2: we were very open and transparent with each. Other AND
24:21
Speaker 2: i Called jeff the day that story came out AND i, said, Hey,
24:24
Speaker 2: JEFF i just wanted you to hear from. Me this
24:27
Speaker 2: IS bs LIKE i have. NOT i, said you. KNEW
24:30
Speaker 2: i had a conversation with The president Back november of last,
24:33
Speaker 2: YEAR i. Said since, Then i've not had another conversation
24:36
Speaker 2: ABOUT ag AND i just Told JEFF i want you
24:38
Speaker 2: to hear from. ME i don't want the job AND
24:40
Speaker 2: i wouldn't take it if, Offered so this is not
24:43
Speaker 2: coming from. Me and, Listen jeff had a rough time
24:46
Speaker 2: in that. Position Bill, barr who succeeded, him started out really,
24:50
Speaker 2: well but at the end he had a rough time
24:52
Speaker 2: in that. Position that has been a. Job Pam bondy
24:55
Speaker 2: did a lot of, good but getting fired in front
24:58
Speaker 2: of the world is not. Fun it's not. FUN i
25:02
Speaker 2: put out a statement saying saying how MUCH i support
25:05
Speaker 2: and like, her AND i sent her a text just, saying,
25:08
Speaker 2: Hey i'm praying for you and thinking for thinking of,
25:10
Speaker 2: you and thank you for being a patriot and answer
25:13
Speaker 2: in the. Call but all of which is to, SAY
25:17
Speaker 2: i am immensely glad THAT i stayed in The. Senate
25:20
Speaker 2: i've Been Donald trump's single strongest ally in The senate
25:23
Speaker 2: for more than a. Decade BUT i very much like
25:27
Speaker 2: the arrangement of working hand in hand with The president
25:29
Speaker 2: from The senate rather THAN Dj whoever gets the, nod
25:33
Speaker 2: whether It's Todd blanche Or Lee zelden or, WHOEVER i
25:37
Speaker 2: will work with them to help them get. CONFIRMED i
25:39
Speaker 2: will work hand in hand with, them just LIKE i
25:41
Speaker 2: did With Pam bondy And Bill barr And Jeff, sessions
25:45
Speaker 2: because the mission OF doj is massively important And President
25:50
Speaker 2: trump deserves a, strong, effective incredibly Principled Attorney.
25:56
Speaker 1: General Mark wain got. Confirmed it was actually pretty. Easy
25:59
Speaker 1: do you expect the same thing for whoever The president
26:01
Speaker 1: picks real quick in this position as? Well even with
26:04
Speaker 1: a slim.
26:04
Speaker 2: Majority, probably although Like Mark, WAYNE i think it'll be
26:08
Speaker 2: largely a party line. Vote Mark wayne got only Two
26:11
Speaker 2: democrats who voted for. HIM i think no matter who
26:14
Speaker 2: who The president, appoints The democrats will will will party
26:18
Speaker 2: line vote against, them with a possible exception of one or.
26:21
Speaker 2: Two but if it's anything like if it's any reasonable appointment,
26:25
Speaker 2: APPOINTMENT i think you'll see The republicans line up and
26:27
Speaker 2: give The president at least fifty one.
26:29
Speaker 1: Votes all right. Center there was something very interesting that
26:32
Speaker 1: happened this. Week no one was really covering. It The
26:35
Speaker 1: New York, times, however did report on this that that
26:40
Speaker 1: radical leftist organization At blue may have Misled congress on
26:45
Speaker 1: And i'm quoting here vetting foreign, donations its lawyers, said,
26:50
Speaker 1: so just to be, clear another example Of democrats taking foreign,
26:54
Speaker 1: interference SOMETHING i thought they were totally against in our
26:56
Speaker 1: elections and or in our. Laws but, yeah not on this.
26:59
Speaker 1: One APPARENTLY fourgm dollars coming in and they may not
27:01
Speaker 1: have vetted the money at.
27:02
Speaker 2: All, so in a shocking, development rain fell, upwards fish began,
27:10
Speaker 2: flying birds began. Swimming, yes and The New York times
27:18
Speaker 2: actually reported, news do we.
27:20
Speaker 1: Do a golf cup for?
27:21
Speaker 3: That Like Little?
27:22
Speaker 2: Masters it is shocking this, story and this is actually
27:27
Speaker 2: a bombshell story that that could potentially have very real.
27:31
Speaker 2: Consequences it's in The New York. Times the headline Is
27:35
Speaker 2: Act blue may have Misled congress on vetting foreign, donations
27:39
Speaker 2: its lawyers, Warn so understand the source of this Is
27:42
Speaker 2: covington And, burling which is a blue chip law firm
27:47
Speaker 2: IN dc that Were Joe biden's Former White house counsel
27:52
Speaker 2: was the lawyer For Act blue And Act blue is a.
27:56
Speaker 2: Powerhouse it has raised billions and billions of dollars For.
28:00
Speaker 1: Democrats say that, again not, millions billion hours, raids just
28:06
Speaker 1: For democrats.
28:07
Speaker 2: That they flood money and they have all of these
28:09
Speaker 2: donors who their credit card information is set. In they're
28:12
Speaker 2: on auto contribute month after month after, month and it
28:15
Speaker 2: just floods. Cash now here's What The New York times.
28:18
Speaker 2: Reported The democratic fundraising group is facing investigations from The
28:21
Speaker 2: Justice department And Congressional republicans ahead of midterm. Elections in
28:26
Speaker 2: early twenty twenty, five a law firm working For, ActBlue
28:29
Speaker 2: The democratic fundraising, behemoth delivered the organization a startling. Warning
28:34
Speaker 2: the firm concluded That actblue's chief executive had given a
28:38
Speaker 2: potentially misleading response To Congressional republican investigators in a twenty
28:43
Speaker 2: twenty three letter explaining how the organization vetted donations to
28:48
Speaker 2: ensure that they were not illegally coming from foreign. Citizens.
28:54
Speaker 2: Quote this presents a substantial risk For Act, blue the
28:58
Speaker 2: law Firm comington And berlin wrote in one of the two.
29:00
Speaker 2: Memos one memo raised the specter of criminal investigation of
29:04
Speaker 2: prosecutors believed That Act blue had tried to conceal facts
29:08
Speaker 2: about its efforts to prevent foreign. Contributions the memos instigated
29:13
Speaker 2: a meltdown at the highest levels Of Act, blue one
29:16
Speaker 2: of The Democratic party's most vital financial. ORGANS a series
29:20
Speaker 2: of top officials resigned in quick. Succession Act blue is
29:26
Speaker 2: now all but declaring war on its past, lawyers an
29:28
Speaker 2: extraordinary turn of event at a moment When President trump
29:32
Speaker 2: has already ordered A Justice department investigation into the. Organization
29:37
Speaker 2: democrats are nervous that any additional upheaval At Act blue
29:40
Speaker 2: could destabilize the critical fundraising apparatus ahead of the midterm.
29:45
Speaker 2: Elections all levels Of democratic, candidates from incumbent presidents to
29:52
Speaker 2: school board, aspirants Use Act blue to raise campaign money
29:56
Speaker 2: from online. Donors the platform has processed get this, number
30:02
Speaker 2: nearly nineteen billion with a b billion dollars in contributions
30:09
Speaker 2: since it's founding in two thousand and, four building a
30:12
Speaker 2: donor database with millions of credit card numbers that is
30:15
Speaker 2: unmatched In american. Politics nearly twenty three thousand candidates and
30:22
Speaker 2: groups use the site in twenty twenty. Five in one,
30:26
Speaker 2: year nearly twenty three thousand candidates in groups and raised
30:30
Speaker 2: almost one point eight billion dollars from fifty two million,
30:35
Speaker 2: contributions some of which recur every. Month and what is
30:40
Speaker 2: striking is The covington memos, said and here's the really
30:46
Speaker 2: killer sentence. Quote it can be alleged That ActBlue accepted
30:53
Speaker 2: and or facilitated the acceptance of foreign national contributions Into american.
30:59
Speaker 2: Elections in, addition Because Act blue staff was aware that
31:05
Speaker 2: its system was not as robust as, necessary it could
31:08
Speaker 2: be alleged that these violations were knowing and, willful a
31:13
Speaker 2: standard that both increases the penalties THE fec might seek
31:17
Speaker 2: and gives The Justice department jurisdiction for a potential criminal.
31:22
Speaker 2: Investigation this is a, big big.
31:27
Speaker 1: Deal, yeah when you say big, deal And i'm a pessimist,
31:31
Speaker 1: now like a lot of, people and every time we
31:34
Speaker 1: see some things like this, happen then it's, like all, right,
31:36
Speaker 1: well is there going to be people that go to
31:37
Speaker 1: jail and be? Arrested and then it seems like nothing ever.
31:40
Speaker 1: Happens so when you say this is a big big,
31:43
Speaker 1: deal are you saying that there could actually genuinely be
31:46
Speaker 1: people that get in trouble for this or is it
31:48
Speaker 1: just gonna be like someone will fine and we move,
31:50
Speaker 1: on or even nothing at.
31:51
Speaker 2: All, look there could be people criminally, prosecuted there could
31:55
Speaker 2: be people going to, jail but that's not really the biggest.
31:57
Speaker 2: Consequence the biggest consequence is there's a criminal. Investigation and
32:02
Speaker 2: this Is covington And, berling a Big democrat law firm
32:06
Speaker 2: that was the lawyer For Act, blue telling, them holy,
32:09
Speaker 2: crap you guys have screwed up and you've got real.
32:12
Speaker 2: Exposure and then this Is The New York, times the
32:16
Speaker 2: official mouthpiece for The, democrats reporting on. It the biggest
32:22
Speaker 2: political consequence would be if a criminal investigation shuts Down
32:26
Speaker 2: Act blue between now and the, election Because Act, blue
32:30
Speaker 2: if nothing else, Happens Act blue will raise billions of
32:34
Speaker 2: dollars For democrats between now And. November and by the,
32:38
Speaker 2: Way Act blues, defense one of their defense, is, well
32:44
Speaker 2: well we we less than one percent of contributions in
32:49
Speaker 2: twenty twenty four were from foreign. Countries, well less than
32:53
Speaker 2: one percent out of nineteen billion dollars is a crap
32:57
Speaker 2: ton of. Money and it is a legal and that.
33:02
Speaker 2: Dynamic And i'll give you some other other. Stats so
33:04
Speaker 2: here here's Something Greg price. Tweeted with all the headwinds
33:08
Speaker 2: facing THE, gop National democrat groups have a serious fundraising
33:12
Speaker 2: problem going into the. Midterm THE dnc currently has more
33:17
Speaker 2: debt than cash on, hand while THE rnc has over
33:21
Speaker 2: one hundred million dollars on. Hand the SLF, CLF, nrcc AND,
33:26
Speaker 2: nrsc which are all the different committees on The republican,
33:29
Speaker 2: side all have more cash than Their democrat. Counterparts and
33:35
Speaker 2: now this With Act, blue The democrat crown jewel of their,
33:39
Speaker 2: fundraising the, big big political consequence If Act blue has
33:44
Speaker 2: committed criminal conduct laundering foreign money Into american, elections and
33:49
Speaker 2: if they actively covered it, up which is What covington
33:52
Speaker 2: And berling suggest there's evidence, of that could be more
33:56
Speaker 2: than sufficient for The department Of justice to SHUT A blue.
34:00
Speaker 2: Down and if that money spigot is cut off From
34:04
Speaker 2: democrat candidates In, november that has, massive massive consequences.
34:10
Speaker 1: For the, area and it shuts off the foreign. Money,
34:13
Speaker 1: right that's also the big part of. This and so
34:15
Speaker 1: even if if they try to morph into a new,
34:17
Speaker 1: group right people leave That.
34:18
Speaker 2: And and by the, way, look the foreign money is
34:21
Speaker 2: not just some hypothetical. Specter if you're the act if
34:24
Speaker 2: you're The, chinese if you're The, russians if you're The,
34:26
Speaker 2: iranians if you're The, venezuelans if you're The, cubans it
34:30
Speaker 2: is objectively in your interest to Have democrats win In.
34:34
Speaker 2: November Donald trump has made your life a living. Hell
34:37
Speaker 2: and so you Want congress to declare war On President.
34:41
Speaker 2: Trump you want A Democrat house And senate that impeaches the,
34:44
Speaker 2: president that investigates the, president that prevents the president from
34:47
Speaker 2: doing what he's done to the enemies Of. America, yeah
34:50
Speaker 2: you're exactly.
34:51
Speaker 1: Right you've been listening To verdict With Ted Cruz Ben
34:53
Speaker 1: ferguson with. You we'll see on the podcast this. Week