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Henry Simmons Full Interview · The Steve Harvey Morning Show

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  Speaker 1: career portraying n y p D Blue Detective Baldwin Jones
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  Speaker 1: on the ABC police drama n y p D Blue
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  Speaker 1: from two thousands and two thousand five. His other television
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  Speaker 1: credits include Ravenwood, Reckless, Common Law, Let's Stay Together, Raising
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  Speaker 1: Please welcome to Money Making Conversations, my man, Henry Simmons, Hey,
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  Speaker 1: thank you, Thank you. Henry. First of all, you know
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  Speaker 1: I saw the premier so and I know the series,
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  Speaker 1: so I saw the premier, so we can talk about that.
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  Speaker 1: We want to talk about that, but I want to
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  Speaker 1: just talk about your career a little bit here. First
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  Speaker 1: of all, how much time do you do you stay
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  Speaker 1: keep standing in shape? Because you're in shape last Now,
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  Speaker 1: I saw you on the premiere and you're looking good,
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  Speaker 1: my man. The arms they let you show the arms off,
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  Speaker 1: some the guns. So how much time you in the gym? Man?
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  Speaker 1: I just wanted because I know I don't look like that.
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  Speaker 1: I can't look like someone was that when I know
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  Speaker 1: you're working on I know some of it I gave
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  Speaker 1: it to you, but you're keeping it in shape. How
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  Speaker 1: does that working out? For you. Oh, let me tell
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  Speaker 1: you something. It's it's it's hard work. I'm not gonna
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  Speaker 1: lie to you know, especially for this role right here.
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  Speaker 1: I Uh, I worked out more. I was working on
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  Speaker 1: six days a week, and I didn't take any shortcuts
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  Speaker 1: like you know some of these actors out here doing
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  Speaker 1: uh these synthetic drugs, pound do that stuff. It's all
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  Speaker 1: hard work, um, But I tell you it's hard because
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  Speaker 1: you get up at you know, five o'clock in the morning,
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  Speaker 1: you start working six o'clock, you get done at eight,
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  Speaker 1: you get home at nine, nine thirty, you spend time
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  Speaker 1: with your family. It's about thirty eleven o'clock. That's when
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  Speaker 1: I would start working out. I started working out eleven
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  Speaker 1: o'clock at night, get about twelve, twelve thirty, study for
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  Speaker 1: the next day, go to sleep, and get ready to
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  Speaker 1: do it all again. Because that's your that's your career,
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  Speaker 1: that's your brand, that's your look. So you can't show
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  Speaker 1: up for an audition with a pot balic that's that.
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  Speaker 1: That's not now. I not tell you right now, even
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  Speaker 1: if I wasn't uh an actor, I would never look
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  Speaker 1: that happen. I couldn't do it. I couldn't do it,
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  Speaker 1: could do it, because that's part of your brand. And
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  Speaker 1: I always tell people that you know your brand, your model.
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  Speaker 1: People have a certain expectation. They see a headshot, that
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  Speaker 1: see your body of work when you come in for
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  Speaker 1: an audition or they give your role because sometimes you're
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  Speaker 1: blessed like that because they've seen your body of work
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  Speaker 1: when you walk through that door. That's what they're expecting,
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  Speaker 1: that that commitment, that same effort, that same consistency. How
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  Speaker 1: has it been when you your estimation, were looking at
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  Speaker 1: your career and you have a great body of work.
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  Speaker 1: What has been the difficulties of maintaining that consistency of
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  Speaker 1: getting the opportunity to stay in front of the person
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  Speaker 1: who does the decision makers of Hollywood, the casting directors. Well,
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  Speaker 1: you know, here's the thing. Uh, I'm old school. I'm
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  Speaker 1: gonna just tell you right now. I'm old school. And
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  Speaker 1: the way I approached my uh career, now that that's
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  Speaker 1: good and bad. Right. A lot of funds a lot
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  Speaker 1: of people nowadays you social media, they involved their personalized
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  Speaker 1: the families. Media show so many, so many aspects of
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  Speaker 1: their lives and that gives them so many followers and
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  Speaker 1: that does help them uh, to some degree in terms
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  Speaker 1: of getting jobs. Now, those aren't THEO jobs I want.
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  Speaker 1: If if someone if the casting director, if a directors
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  Speaker 1: looking at my social media account and seeing, oh, he's popular,
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  Speaker 1: therefore I'm going to give him a job, that's not
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  Speaker 1: the job. I want a job that is based on
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  Speaker 1: artistry and so therefore, and I'm I'm a person. I
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  Speaker 1: believe in privacy. I believe in the old school way
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  Speaker 1: of having said, not not showing. Like if you go
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  Speaker 1: to my um uh Instagram account, you won't see pictures
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  Speaker 1: of my kids and see pictures house and you know
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  Speaker 1: all stuff and uh. And also I try to do
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  Speaker 1: things with integrity. Thank you. And that's what I started.
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  Speaker 1: I said the two things that I want in this business.
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  Speaker 1: I want long caf a obviously, because longevity is equivalent
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  Speaker 1: to success. Uh, It's longevity and integrity, right. I don't
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  Speaker 1: want to start doing things just to be doing them,
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  Speaker 1: and when I look back on it, I question why
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  Speaker 1: I did it or I'm humiliated by it. I don't
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  Speaker 1: want that. But to tell you, when you operate with integrity,
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  Speaker 1: that means your journey, your journey is going to have
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  Speaker 1: a little bit more ups and downs are gonna be
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  Speaker 1: a little bit longer on the road. You're not taking
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  Speaker 1: everything that's you're thrown at you right right, you know,
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  Speaker 1: I believe that, you know, I've looked at this. Relationships
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  Speaker 1: are key to and that then then the integrity comes
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  Speaker 1: with that. If you have integrity, you're gonna have relationships.
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  Speaker 1: And if you have relationships, when people need you, they
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  Speaker 1: know your body of work. And that's how you're saying,
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  Speaker 1: you said rashand look, you can have the followers, but
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  Speaker 1: if you don't have the body of the work, that
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  Speaker 1: can bite you in the button. Because when you get
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  Speaker 1: on that set, you know, and you and sometimes you're
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  Speaker 1: challenged by talent, terrific talent, you know, because and sometimes
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  Speaker 1: you not the biggest star on the set. Sometimes you're
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  Speaker 1: in a great ensemble and you have to assemble, which
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  Speaker 1: is kind of like what you have to deal with
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  Speaker 1: with Marvel's Ages of Shelds. That's a great ensemble that
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  Speaker 1: you have to deal with and you have to mess
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  Speaker 1: your talent inside of them, and everything feels relatable, organic,
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  Speaker 1: and that's why, you know, just watching on that series,
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  Speaker 1: it's been a blessing to me because you're a black
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  Speaker 1: superhero and I'm gonna just telling you know, and people
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  Speaker 1: need to understand that why Black Panther was so popular,
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  Speaker 1: because you know, we all need to feel that we
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  Speaker 1: in that in that fantasy world, that we are part
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  Speaker 1: of that part of the equation. And I'm gonna tell
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  Speaker 1: you so man. You know, I know you were on
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  Speaker 1: the second season, you were like a recurring character. And
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  Speaker 1: when they made you, I think the third season, when
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  Speaker 1: they made you a regular, I smiled, Henry, I smiled, brother,
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  Speaker 1: thank you, thank you so much, thank you. You know,
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  Speaker 1: you know, I look, I also I do how I
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  Speaker 1: think there's a responsibility to my artistry, but I do
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  Speaker 1: also recognize as a risk onstability, on being a black
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  Speaker 1: man in this business because I know, I know, at
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  Speaker 1: least I'm trying to be cognizant of what I represent.
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  Speaker 1: And I mean not only to too other uh people
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  Speaker 1: of color, but also my children and and also that's
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  Speaker 1: why I want to operate an integrity and you know, uh,
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  Speaker 1: when when I hear people say things like that about
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  Speaker 1: Marvels Agents of Shield, when they say, wow, they see
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  Speaker 1: this guy and he's inspiring, you know, because he's a
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  Speaker 1: black man. And I'm gonna tell you, like this, I
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  Speaker 1: was so surprised. Number one, that what was surprised the
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  Speaker 1: fact that they made me director right right right? You
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  Speaker 1: don't see particularly in that position. I I I wouldn't
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  Speaker 1: think that, uh, that they would make a black man
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  Speaker 1: that leader of that squad. I thought it would be
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  Speaker 1: someone else. But volumes to the writers and producers that
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  Speaker 1: I work with, right right, you know, and that and
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  Speaker 1: that's that's important because you know, first of all, you know,
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  Speaker 1: you're not just an ardiner. You're you're a big black man.
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  Speaker 1: And I say that in a good way. When when
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  Speaker 1: you're walk in the room, you feel a room, you know,
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  Speaker 1: they go, wow, God looks good, he's in shape. Who
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  Speaker 1: is that guy you you're here? Who is that guy
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  Speaker 1: type of person who walks in the room? And that
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  Speaker 1: that's really good. But that's a responsibility that comes with that,
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  Speaker 1: and so and so when I look at it with
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  Speaker 1: this now, when I say that, when they when they
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  Speaker 1: made you that recurring character, then they made you the
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  Speaker 1: regular and made it legitimately a level of responsibility that
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  Speaker 1: can be engaged into this show because I see a
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  Speaker 1: part of me, my kids see a part of me,
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  Speaker 1: my friends see a part of me in that show
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  Speaker 1: that looks like me. Because guess what, in the fantasy world,
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  Speaker 1: we are heroes too, and you are a hero, and
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  Speaker 1: that's mentoring other people because us. You know, I grew
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  Speaker 1: up watching you know, buying the whole combined Captain America
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  Speaker 1: and then were my fantasies now. And that's a good
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  Speaker 1: fantasy to have, because that's a wish, that's a dream.
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  Speaker 1: And to see a black man who looks, who looks statueous,
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  Speaker 1: who looks in shape, who looks good, that's a blessing, man,
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  Speaker 1: And that's a blessing for it not only for people
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  Speaker 1: of color, but for white America to see you as
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  Speaker 1: well as a leader, as a guy of thor that's important. Man.
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  Speaker 1: I just wanted to That's why I was excited about
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  Speaker 1: interviewing you today Herery because you know, a lot of times,
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  Speaker 1: you know, as an actor, we get in these vacuums
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  Speaker 1: and we just do the best job we can do.
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  Speaker 1: But when you step out into my world, you know,
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  Speaker 1: the the you know, the the golden corral world of
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  Speaker 1: the Kroger world of regular people just shopping the rafts.
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  Speaker 1: You know, that's that's the people that that look at
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  Speaker 1: you and go, you go. Why is he looking at
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  Speaker 1: me like, wait, because guess what you are doing? You
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  Speaker 1: mean something to us, Henry, I want to know what
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  Speaker 1: you're talking about. Yeah, I'm I'm a regular guy. Though
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  Speaker 1: I'm a regular guy, but I appreciate that. Oh yeah,
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  Speaker 1: you know I Faso Mac Now, yeah, I'm taking something. Faso.
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  Speaker 1: You know your character on the show. Now, you know,
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  Speaker 1: because I I'm not shaped like you, but I got
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  Speaker 1: a ball head and a beer to you know, kind
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  Speaker 1: of keep it close up. So I would just let
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  Speaker 1: you know I I fade in that lane that you
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  Speaker 1: live in. Okay, now, okay, Now, now you're the director,
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  Speaker 1: which like Nick Fury and the Marvel movies, he was
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  Speaker 1: the director. So you're kind of like the Nick Theory
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  Speaker 1: character on the television sharing Marvel's Agents of Shields. Because
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  Speaker 1: my man Colson, he's called he's like a robot this
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  Speaker 1: season or something. He probably he was brought back from
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  Speaker 1: the dead. Can you can you feel us in on
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  Speaker 1: the details because I saw the premier and uh and
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  Speaker 1: we'll talking about it. Yeah. He the thing is he
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  Speaker 1: uh he died right and he was And then there
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  Speaker 1: was another character at last season season six that looked
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  Speaker 1: quite a bit like him and I guess infused with
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  Speaker 1: in another dimension he wore a person. Uh but when
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  Speaker 1: he died. Um, there's these androids called chronic Colms and
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  Speaker 1: uh Simmons. The Simmons character was able to infuse all
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  Speaker 1: of Colson's stocks and feelings and memories everything into this
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  Speaker 1: he is an android, he is like Colson in in
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  Speaker 1: the way he thinks and moves and fields. So that's
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  Speaker 1: the way they were the writers were brilliant and being
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  Speaker 1: able to bring him back that way. Um. Uh So
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  Speaker 1: now he's back, and he his position is different because
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  Speaker 1: he's an agent, right, and also he's different because he
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  Speaker 1: has this uh, he has strength. He's kind of as
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  Speaker 1: quick and so so it's really ironic because you know,
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  Speaker 1: you know, he was first introduced into the Marvel series
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  Speaker 1: somehow who brought back to life for the television series,
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  Speaker 1: which was a great gift for us. So him dying
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  Speaker 1: show because calls he's the vampire of this way. If
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  Speaker 1: had the superpower. So tell us about your character. You know,
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  Speaker 1: we talked about you being the director, but tell about
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  Speaker 1: tell us about the whole of you know, because your
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  Speaker 1: characters has had certain levels of evolution in this series
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  Speaker 1: and different roles in different leaps and different transition different models.
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  Speaker 1: Talk about it when he was introduced into the show,
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  Speaker 1: and bring us forward. Okay, sure, Well initially I went
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  Speaker 1: on just a simple audition and uh, you know, about
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  Speaker 1: two weeks later they asked me to come aboard and
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  Speaker 1: I'm sure. But the problem was, at the time the
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  Speaker 1: first season was not on Netflix. I didn't have I
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  Speaker 1: didn't I didn't know what I was stepping into. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: I had an idea because I had seen a little
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  Speaker 1: bit of the show, but I didn't I didn't know
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  Speaker 1: my first day there. It was just it was everything
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  Speaker 1: I thought it would be and more. I mean, there
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  Speaker 1: were if the technology you walk on set, there's there's
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  Speaker 1: there were like twenty people at the time. Uh, all
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  Speaker 1: these this weapon read the names of all these guns,
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  Speaker 1: that the aircraft and and uh all the technical language
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  Speaker 1: and the levels this all that, and it was a
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  Speaker 1: whole new world. I knew right away that this is
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  Speaker 1: where I want to be a part of. Yeah, I'm
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  Speaker 1: telling you. Uh, here's the thing. My first season, I
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  Speaker 1: was recurring, and I was advised not to do it
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  Speaker 1: because people people were like, you know, don't, don't do that.
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: You know, don't don't recur the whole season because then
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: they can drop you at the end. But here's my thing.
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: I know, once I get in, I believe in my talent.
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: I know how hard I work, and I've bet on
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: me and I've bet on God. So yeah, that's that's
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: my number one. Uh So I knew. I said, no, no,
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: I'm not worried about I know I'm gonna recur. I'm
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: gonna recur, and I know they're gonna there's no doubt
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: in my mind. And that's what happened. And then they
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: helped me to uh series regular. But the trend the
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: way Mac came about here. Initially, I don't know if
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: you remember, he was so reluctant to fight. He didn't
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: want to fight many there was no way in the
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: world he was gonna fight. And he Colston said, look,
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: I need you to get out there. So finally he
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: got out there, and and he was doing everything he
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: could to maintain the fight but not kill anyone and
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: just do what would need to be done. A matter
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: of fact, he tried to leave in the first I'm
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: not cut out for this um But as things progressed,
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: there were times that Colson had to leave. Like I
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: think there was one time when he had the cree
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: blood in him and he needed to explore that. And
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: and the one thing I liked is that right off
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: the bat they had um my character Mac but in
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: heads with Colson because Colson was using Shield for his own, uh,
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: his own needs, instead of using it for the greater good,
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: and Mac was against that. And Mac was right, He's like, look,
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: you can't be using it to find out all about
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: this creed. But this is about saving the world. This
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: is about doing it the bigger picture, not just do
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: a picture and he was. I was the one that
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: was vocal against Colson. I like that, but we had
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: mutual respect and you noticed from Coaston would me, he
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: would put me in charge. So eventually you know, I
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: was out in the field. They gave me the shotgun
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: acts and the fighting and all that. So when we
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: get down to UH season I think it was five
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: and the five where they decide who's going to be
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: the director after Colson dies, I thought for sure it
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: was gonna be either Quake or there wasn't in the comics,
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: or May uh May. And when they gave me the mantle,
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: I was I was extremely flattered. I'm not gonna lie
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: ext needs latter because it says two things. It says
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: something about me personally write an actor. They know that
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: I have the authority right the UH the characteristics of
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: leadership and integrity, thank you, and as an actor the
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: strength to carry that mantle and leave. And as a
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: as the character of Mac they they see through his
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: progression that he has UH that I've infused him with
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: those qualities as well. Absolutely, and they believed in me,
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: and that's that was something that meant. It meant so
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: much for me. I just I'm not a lie. Well,
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: I guess what meant something to me too, Okay, mental
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: to a lot of people out there of color to
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: see you an authority, an authority figure. When Nick Ferry
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: comes on the screen and ordering the Avengers around, I
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: feel good order in Spider manner. I feel good because
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: you go wow, because we all know that could have
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: been a white car. Okay, it could have been a
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: white character. So but they made a decision that, based
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: on your talent, color didn't matter. You're the leader, Yeah
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: it didn't. It didn't matter. And because now this is
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: why we're gonna go to the series. Now this is
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: the final mission. Okay, watching the premiere episode last night,
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: you guys are transported back to nineteen thirty one. Now,
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: this is why this is important to me. First of all,
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: you were wearing a fly suit. Okay, I just want
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: to let you know that brother wanted that. You know,
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: you were you were looking at you were wearing something
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: I definitely wear put on because I'm a Taylor made guy, Himmery.
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: You know, I'm just let you know that's you know,
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: you know how you didn't you didn't let me get
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: to the hat. Come on, this food, Look at this food.
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: Got this hat cocked to the side. A brother in one,
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: you fool. Every week, I'm gonna get on your about that.
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: I can't believe this food got these brown shoes on. Okay,
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: signed up walking down here with these white folks with
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: his hat cocked to the side, and one you know
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: that can't happen, right, We're gonna do We're gonna do it.
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: Oh my god, Oh my god. Because you know, it
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: was really interesting because of the fact that this is
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: where it gets interesting, because of the fact that it's
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: one and we know the racial situation. It's thirty one.
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: We know how women were treated in eighteen thirty one,
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: and here you are a man of authority, the boss
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: of these white people. Because we gotta talk like this,
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: because because I think that had to be thought out
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: when that time period was picked. They do, you know,
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: talk us through that whole process, because you knew that
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: time period that you couldn't walk around just giving them
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: orders out in public because they would draw attention. And
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: also when people came to you negative, because I've seen
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: in the in the premier where somebody came to you
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: negative because negative, because you were a person of color.
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: You react and you go Oh, don't make no ripples.
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: Don't don't make no ripples. You know, I think that
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: was really and then uh, I think Chloe's character, you know,
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: when she was walking into the bar area, Uh that
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: that that that this got treated like she was a
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: stupid female in his eyes, you know, while you're at home,
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: you know, taking care of babies, and she reacted to that.
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: I think that is so clever because of the fact
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: that it allows us to see, you know, how how
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: how time has changed, but if you go back to
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: that time, it's still the same. But you guys got
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: to play out your roles and the characters that we
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: believe that you are in a period that's not conducive
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: to that particular particular social economic, social stylings. Talk to
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: us about that. When the script was being put in
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: front of you, guys, how what did y'all think about it?
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: Did you have any questions when you were developing that
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: period of well, that was my first question. That was
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: my first question about race, because look, you know, you
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: you can't deny that I'm a six foot four, two
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: time black man walking down the street. You can't deny it.
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: And the thing is that I said to them, now,
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: I don't know what they had in motion, but I
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: asked him, I said, what, what how are you going
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: to address And one of the executives said, oh, we
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: might say something where uh, where someone says, oh, you know, hey,
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: you gotta walk through the back or something like that.
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: And and again I don't know how much further they
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: were gonna go, but I mean when we first, when
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: they first started talking about I said, listen, I would
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: like you to address that. I would like you to
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: address it more than just something like that, because it
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: wasn't something that one person might itself. Everybody felt a
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: certain way about uh, black people. Everybody that was what
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: a certain way about black people during the time. I mean,
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: you know, uh, I'm not saying that body was racist,
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: but I'm saying that some things were acceptable and some
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: things were not. A black man walking amongst white people
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: and giving orders and walking in and walking with us
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: in his authority and in his power was not accepted.
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: Now as a character, there's no way I was going
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: to back down from that. There's no way I was
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: going to I'm not gonna walk into a situation. And
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: because now, look, if it was a different time period,
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: if I was playing a movie where I was born
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: that time, and it not not it might be different,
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: but because I'm a man of this age, going back
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: in time, I'm going to keep the authority in the
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: power in which I walk in because I'm not diminishing
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: the story, you know what I'm saying. But that's why
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: a lot, that's why I thought, you know, and looking
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: at the thirty one soon as they said that time
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: for you and I read that, I said, Wow, this
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: is gonna be interested watching your character because you're not
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: gonna become five for seven okay and six five pounds,
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: you know, You're still gotta be six ft four, that's all.
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: You cocked that hat and was stride because when you
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: walk in the room, like I said, when you're walking
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: the room, even today, you are a room changer because
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: of how you look and your physicality. And so one
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: you walk into that bar, immediately everybody looked at you, okay,
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: you know, because they're going, okay, we got them being
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: in here. Wise that big black dude in here, and
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: who let him in? You know, And and and that's
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: just that's just to me. It's fine with me because
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: that storytelling, but the storytelling that we could not have
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: is that you bowing down or you being talked too
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: badly and not reacting to it. That is what I
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: appreciated about last night and thank you. Yeah, and the
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: year is that you notice each time someone like one guy,
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: I think he said shadow and the implication me was racial.
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: Now you know, it might have been something different, but
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: the implication for me was racial. And in the bar
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: when they started, UH, he started to call me a
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: racial derogatory word and and said I stepped to them both.
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: I said what you said, right, you know, yes, yes, yes,
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: you know nothing I preached it. I'm not you know, look,
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: I'm you know, I'm not gonna blow my cover. But
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: the thing is is that a man in this age
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: and this this this latent time UH has a certain
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: sense can walk in his authority, can walk in his power,
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: and and that's something that is ingrained in us. So
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: that was a re actionary thing for mac back Man
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: when he was he was in the third it was beautiful,
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: It was beautiful, you know, I just wanted to everybody know,
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: it's a great series premier and but I thought that,
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: But that's an underlying tone, especially how women were treated
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: in Ante thirty one and how people of color when
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: treated in nineteen thirty one is going to be played
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: out through the period while they stand down there. And
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: I think it's really cool because the writers heated your
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: thoughts and and a lot of respect, because you can't
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: do a great series and you can't send little underlying
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: messages that respect is always the bottom of bottom line
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: we're all trying to achieve. And in this final mission,
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: which is the seventh season of Marvels Agents of Shields,
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: it's really especial because of the fact that you're the director.
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: Women have power, women are fighters, women are not subservient,
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: and they're on a mission to save the world. Tell
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: us about this this final mission and let us know
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: the direction and what can we expect the season. Henry, Well,
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: you can expect us too. I think it's already been
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: told that we are we don't remain in this time
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: we go to different time period. Absolutely, I think that's
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: already been said. I'm not giving anything, um and do.
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: The one thing I could say is that, uh, the mission,
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: I'm trying to say somebodout giving away the wishes the mission.
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: It becomes more complicated because, as you know, if you
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: go back in time, it's a butterfly effect. If you
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: do something, it changes the future, and then maybe if
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: you change the future, then maybe you have to go
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: back to another time to try to impress something so
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: it doesn't happen in the present time. So it's it's
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: a thing where and where you were trying to trying
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: to put out fires and trying to do what's necessary,
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: uh to stop these chronic colms from taking over. But
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: but the thing is is uh, like I said along
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: the way, you just have to read. You know, there's
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: gonna be some things where it's gonna affect people's lives
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: and look and look like this, because we're moving through
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: time right there are other people that are gonna come
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: that could possibly come back that we've seen before. That's awesome.
• 30:16
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• 30:19
  Speaker 1: I just want to I just want to have an
• 30:20
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• 30:24
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• 30:26
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• 30:32
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• 30:50
  Speaker 1: I'm keep that hat cock, baby, and keep that tide, man,
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• 30:58
  Speaker 1: I want to thank you for calling much make up sessation.
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: But I hope you appreciated the conversation we had, man,
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: because it was an honest one about you as a talent. Man.
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  Speaker 1: And sometimes you need to be told, man, you special man,
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: that you're making a difference, not only when you go
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• 31:13
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• 31:16
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• 31:18
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• 31:21
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• 31:25
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• 31:27
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• 31:30
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• 31:35
  Speaker 1: and insightful. Not sense for me, but I think for
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: other people. Hopefully. I appreciate you. Thank you. Thank you
• 31:42
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• 31:46
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