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Mental Health: Known as the MD with ADHD Dr. Dawn Brown knows the value of Mental Health fitness.. · The Steve Harvey Morning Show

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Speaker 1: My name is doctor Don Brown. Doctor Don Brown is
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Speaker 1: a double Board certified Child, adolescent, adult and sports psychiatrists.
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Speaker 2: That's a lot. Let me say that one with that.
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Speaker 1: Doctor Brown is a double Board certified child, adolescent, adult,
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Speaker 1: and sports psychiatrists. The reason I bring up because my daughter,
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Speaker 1: she was a tennis projecy at sixteen, and I know
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Speaker 1: that we had to use a person that like this
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Speaker 1: services because when you get into sports, you question yourself a.
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Speaker 2: Lot, and then you can be an injury you can
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Speaker 2: come in and play.
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Speaker 1: So it's a lot of things that's physical and many
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Speaker 1: mental aspects of their athleticism and.
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Speaker 2: Also in everyday life that comes into play.
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Speaker 1: She's also a pioneer of the mental health movement and
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Speaker 1: then nationally recognize two time number one best selling author, Forbes,
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Speaker 1: writer adhd Coach, mental health expert and public speaker. We're
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Speaker 1: going to discuss with doctor Brown why she chose psychiatry
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Speaker 1: as our specialty, how to prioritize your health, and the
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Speaker 1: stigma regarding mental health. That's a big one right there.
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Speaker 1: Plus doctor Brown's secrets to being a successful serial entrepreneur.
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Speaker 1: You know this money Made conversation. You know I how
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Speaker 1: to bring that up. Please, welcome to Money Made Conversations.
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Speaker 1: She's living in Houston, straight out of Flint, Michigan, Doctor
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Speaker 1: Don Brown.
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Speaker 2: How you doing, doctor Brown.
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Speaker 3: Mister Sean, thank you so much for having me. It's
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Speaker 3: a pleasure to be here. I'm doing great. Thank you
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Speaker 3: for asking.
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Speaker 1: Well, first of all, you look for t ask got
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Speaker 1: money green on? You got money green on?
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Speaker 4: Correct?
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Speaker 1: Now there you tell you said it a little bit
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Speaker 1: earlier Flint, Michigan. We know what's going on up there now,
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Speaker 1: just not out the story about trying to get find
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Speaker 1: out what's going on with the drink water. But it
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Speaker 1: is a part of your past and part of your life,
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Speaker 1: because I'm sure you're a relative.
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Speaker 2: Still in up there now. You're in Houston, Texas, and we.
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Speaker 1: Just came off that freeze storm that basically shut down
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Speaker 1: the state of Texas, and saw how they were unprepared
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Speaker 1: and it's what we call the state they're supposed to
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Speaker 1: have they act together.
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Speaker 2: That's the state of Texas.
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Speaker 1: And we're still dealing with the consequences of that freeze
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Speaker 1: that really caused.
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Speaker 2: The loss of a lot of lives, and that's important.
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Speaker 1: So when you're dealing with that, that's all the reason
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Speaker 1: I bring these up is that those situations caused mental stress.
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Speaker 1: The Flint mission that you Michigan situation where people are
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Speaker 1: drinking water they have to worry if that water's going
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Speaker 1: to cause deformity and a childbirthing situation or cut short
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Speaker 1: their life where their children grow up, where they affect
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Speaker 1: their brain or they grow or their growth patterns. That's
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Speaker 1: Flint Michigan. Then you deal with the freeze situation that
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Speaker 1: happened in Texas and people are still trying to recover
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Speaker 1: from the mental I guess I want to say effect
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Speaker 1: of trust when it happened again, would I be prepared
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Speaker 1: to happen with that?
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Speaker 2: Talk about the whole.
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Speaker 1: Mental makeup of people in general when stress comes into
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Speaker 1: their life.
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Speaker 4: It's a very interesting question.
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Speaker 3: You bring up and even to mention Hurricane Harvey in
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Speaker 3: there as well, right, and the comparisons. You know, trauma
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Speaker 3: can be a blessing and a curse. It's actually a
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Speaker 3: silver lining in trauma. And how I say that is
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Speaker 3: because it's obvious the curse, right, the traumatic experience that
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Speaker 3: people can experience with how traumatizing the situation, the condition
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Speaker 3: experience could be for someone, how that affects their mentality,
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Speaker 3: how the affects their emotional health and even their physical health.
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Speaker 3: And then just like you're saying their trust factor, you
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Speaker 3: know what's going to happen next is that I'm going
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Speaker 3: to drop out again. I cannot be happy because I
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Speaker 3: know something bad is going to happen.
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Speaker 4: But then it's the blessing. Many people have been.
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Speaker 3: Motivated by trauma, you know, the determination, the diligence, the drive,
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Speaker 3: the resilience of trum right, and so wanting to motivate
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Speaker 3: yourself out of a situation, find the tools and the
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Speaker 3: keys necessary to do so, and never stop giving up. So,
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Speaker 3: but then the baggage is still there, and if you
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Speaker 3: don't address it, you don't deal with it, it can
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Speaker 3: actually affect your mental health particularly and leave.
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Speaker 4: A lot of stars.
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Speaker 1: Well, let's talk about the mental health from a standpoint
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Speaker 1: of just day to day living. Let's talk about the
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Speaker 1: minority community and what we all know. The minority community
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Speaker 1: kind of shunes from showing weaknesses, and some people feel
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Speaker 1: that if you admit that you have a mental illness,
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Speaker 1: then you are weak, that you are showing at flaw,
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Speaker 1: a flaw that can help people measure you based on
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Speaker 1: your credibility, your sustainability as far as what you can
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Speaker 1: do with your life. Now, let's backtrack a little bit
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Speaker 1: about the minority community in Houston text I'm just using
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Speaker 1: in the Houston texts as an example because I forgot
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Speaker 1: about Hurricane Harvey in twenty seventeen. Hurricane Harvey happened between
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Speaker 1: the devastated the city of Houston, who would affected.
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Speaker 2: The most minorities.
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Speaker 1: Then you move forward into twenty twenty and COVID hit.
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Speaker 1: On top of COVID devastated the minority community. Okay, then
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Speaker 1: the George Floyd situation came out, rioting on social and
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Speaker 1: civil unrest. Still on top of that, you were dealing
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Speaker 1: with COVID nineteen. How do you deal with that? No vaccination?
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Speaker 1: Then we move into Texas, Then we did the Still
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Speaker 1: on top of that, no vaccination yet the big Texas
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Speaker 1: freeze hit. Who did it affect the most minorities? Okay,
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Speaker 1: now we're coming out. We have a vaccination set up
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Speaker 1: when we can get vaccinated, and minorities are one of
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Speaker 1: the slowest group that want to get vaccinated.
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Speaker 2: So that's where the trust comes in.
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Speaker 1: But there's also the stress because our jobs are saying
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Speaker 1: if you don't get vaccinated, you may not.
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Speaker 2: Have a job here anymore. Doctor Brown, The floor is
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Speaker 2: yours now.
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Speaker 3: Wait, So it's so much to unpack there, right, because
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Speaker 3: historically mental health, physical health, just medical in general, medical
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Speaker 3: health has not done people of color.
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Speaker 4: Due diligence, has not been justified.
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Speaker 3: Right, I mean, this is an actual industry that has
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Speaker 3: actually been targeted towards people of color having been there, mistreated,
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Speaker 3: not treated, not diagnosed properly.
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Speaker 4: I mean, I can go on and on and when
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Speaker 4: you talk about mental.
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Speaker 3: Health, all of those factors play a role, and it's
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Speaker 3: few of us. The lack of access, the lack of
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Speaker 3: education coming from people like me that look like people
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Speaker 3: who want to hear information, who want help but just
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Speaker 3: don't know who to trust, where to go to if
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Speaker 3: they have the financial need or the financial reasons of
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Speaker 3: being able to go. I mean, it's just so much right,
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Speaker 3: and so what we try to do is we try
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Speaker 3: to just start at one step at a time. When
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Speaker 3: you have insult after insult that you're saying with Sean
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Speaker 3: from things outside of our control such as weather patterns
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Speaker 3: and you know, the traumatic effects of Harvey and Houston,
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Speaker 3: and then like you're saying the power outers, the water
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Speaker 3: outers here in Easton, and then you're talking about COVID
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Speaker 3: nineteen and you're talking about people like look like me
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Speaker 3: that are you know, brutalized and murdered in the street
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Speaker 3: protest going on. I mean, it's insult after insult. So
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Speaker 3: what happens to our emotional health? Yes, it's traumatized and
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Speaker 3: it's scarred, and if we don't do something about that,
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Speaker 3: then it could be actually jeopardizing and very dangerous because
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Speaker 3: those scars don't heal, they don't heal at all unless
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Speaker 3: you address them. You know, you can have a physical
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Speaker 3: wound and you can actually see how the womb hears,
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Speaker 3: how the skin, which is the largest organize system, can
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Speaker 3: actually do miraculous things.
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Speaker 4: And just covering up.
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Speaker 3: That scar, you may have something to remind you of
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Speaker 3: that scar, but it's not a wound that's open, it's cut,
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Speaker 3: that's not you know, vicious. But when you talking about
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Speaker 3: emotional health, it's something completely different. And a lot of
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Speaker 3: the scar actually can become generational. It can actually be
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Speaker 3: triggering and actually can come up in different situations where
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Speaker 3: you're not even thinking.
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Speaker 4: About it subconsciously.
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Speaker 3: So, yes, emotional health is just as equally as important
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Speaker 3: as physical health, and in our community people of color,
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Speaker 3: we definitely have to talk about it.
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Speaker 1: Well, let's talk about that, because I really like that
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Speaker 1: analogy of the open scar, a wound that doesn't heal,
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Speaker 1: because let's talk about that for a mess, because that's
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Speaker 1: what happens. From the mental lives, we can't see it,
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Speaker 1: so it cannot be acknowledged as a problem to the
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Speaker 1: everyday viewer or the everyday.
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Speaker 2: Eye you came in.
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Speaker 1: If I came into the house and my daughter came
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Speaker 1: into the house and her knee was scar, we go,
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Speaker 1: what's wrong.
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Speaker 2: Let's fix that.
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Speaker 1: We put some salve on it, some alcohol shill stream
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Speaker 1: I daddy, no, no, then put a bandage on it.
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Speaker 2: Then all of a sudden, we'll watch it.
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Speaker 1: Make sure it doesn't get infected, and then when it's
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Speaker 1: when there's when there's repaired fully, then we're comfortable again. Now,
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Speaker 1: from a mental aspect, we don't see that. So if
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Speaker 1: we did come in here and we saw a wound
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Speaker 1: on the side of your head, and that signified that
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Speaker 1: you were having mental stress, then we will know what
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Speaker 1: to do. And guess what we would do, doctor Brown,
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Speaker 1: We will want to fix that problem. But when it's mental,
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Speaker 1: then all of a sudden, you know, a lot of terms,
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Speaker 1: he crazy, he don't have good sense, a lot of
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Speaker 1: terms that I've heard in my neighborhood where you know
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Speaker 1: that don't go to him, that's a crazy do it
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Speaker 1: on the corner, you know, walk past, walk fast past him.
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Speaker 2: Because it was always deemed that somebody who was not
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Speaker 2: who was.
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Speaker 1: Mentally stressed, was a person that you should stay away
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Speaker 1: from in the minority community.
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Speaker 2: Am I right or wrong?
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Speaker 3: No, you're exactly one hundred percent right. I mean a
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Speaker 3: band aid is to cover up a wound, just like
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Speaker 3: a smile, just cut up depression.
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Speaker 5: Right.
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Speaker 3: But again there's a historical analogy here. We were taught
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Speaker 3: not to show emotions, right, think about slavery. If you
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Speaker 3: showed a bigger emotion than you were actually beaten, bruised, victimized, shunned,
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Speaker 3: all of those things, right, And so we had to
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Speaker 3: be strong in order to survive that time period, in
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Speaker 3: order to make it to another day, in order to
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Speaker 3: be okay. But again, historically we were taught to do that,
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Speaker 3: and that's become generational, part of the generational purse, if
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Speaker 3: you will that. Nowadays, we steal, many of us don't
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Speaker 3: show that emotion, right, And it's taught that if this
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Speaker 3: is a sign of weakness, just like as a slave,
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Speaker 3: it's a.
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Speaker 4: Sign of weakness.
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Speaker 3: You're not good enough, you're not built well enough, all
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Speaker 3: of these type of things. But I often tell my
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Speaker 3: people of color, hey, you don't.
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Speaker 4: Have to do that anymore. That was back then. This
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Speaker 4: is now. You have me to hear, to support you,
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Speaker 4: your family that loves you. Here are the other support systems.
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Speaker 4: And it's okay. It's okay not to have to smile
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Speaker 4: all the time. It's okay to cry.
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Speaker 3: It's God's tears. You say, hey, I need an emotional
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Speaker 3: release because I'm human. And back then we weren't considered human,
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Speaker 3: were considered animals, we were considered victims, we were considered
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Speaker 3: all these things that we couldn't actually express ourselves, and
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Speaker 3: part of that mentality is still again a part of
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Speaker 3: today's society, especially.
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Speaker 4: In people of color.
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Speaker 3: But again even if we encourage people like me to
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Speaker 3: encourage our people yet instilled in different environments, atmosphere and
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Speaker 3: work with whatever social circles, that mentality still exists.
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Speaker 1: Right, we know, it's really interesting in just hearing you talk,
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Speaker 1: is that you know they you know, I hear the
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Speaker 1: words council, councel, culture, which I can't stand. I hear
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Speaker 1: worries about you know, why do we have to worry
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Speaker 1: about chance transgender? Why do you have to worry about
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Speaker 1: the issue. Why are all these people coming out of
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Speaker 1: the closet? Why why because they have been afraid. They've
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Speaker 1: been afraid to live a life. So now we're at
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Speaker 1: that mental health We are afraid, and we're trying to
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Speaker 1: erode or remove the barriers of fear. It's all right
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Speaker 1: to say you are depressed. It's all right to say
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Speaker 1: that you know that you don't feel good and that
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Speaker 1: you you're stressing, and that you this is you've you've
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Speaker 1: reached your moment.
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Speaker 2: You need time for yourself. It's all right. To take
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Speaker 2: vacation away from your world.
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Speaker 1: And so I say that because when I talk, when
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Speaker 1: I'm talking to you, doctor Brown, I take this stuff
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Speaker 1: very personal because of the fact that people can criticize,
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Speaker 1: and criticis people don't know the power of criticism really
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Speaker 1: can stop a lot of people from seeking help.
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Speaker 2: And am I am I correct when I'm saying that,
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Speaker 2: yes you are.
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Speaker 3: It is because not only do you have to consider
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Speaker 3: the criticism that comes externally, but how internally as well.
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Speaker 4: Right, we don't help criticize ourselves, you know, and that's important.
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Speaker 1: So so because I I you know, like I said,
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Speaker 1: we have a lot to talk about it, but I
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Speaker 1: want to just talk about that little portion. But I
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Speaker 1: want to talk about the mental health athletics athletics centers
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Speaker 1: that you have and then the services that they offer.
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Speaker 1: And why was it important to you know, rap put
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Speaker 1: the word athletic and health together and maybe they understand
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Speaker 1: it all has always been one.
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Speaker 2: You know, I don't care if you Venus Williams or
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Speaker 2: if you Tom Brady. There is a psychology, there is
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Speaker 2: a mental ability. There has been known that the.
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Speaker 1: Reason Serena Williams has not won the Graham Slave Record
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Speaker 1: because she stresses out too much in the finals, And
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Speaker 1: you said, Henix Serena Williams, Yes, Yes, stress and mental
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Speaker 1: breakdowns have cost her from achieving her dream of winning
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Speaker 1: all the last few Grand Slams that she's been in.
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Speaker 2: And so even at that high level, how do you.
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Speaker 1: Come in with these clinics that you created and combine
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Speaker 1: health and athletics. We'll be right back with more from
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Speaker 4: That reason right there, you mentioned the mission.
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Speaker 3: You know, I want athletes to understand that they're a
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Speaker 3: human just who happen to have at THEIC abilities.
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Speaker 4: So we're recognizing them as human first, and a.
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Speaker 3: Lot of times when they were younger, you know, they
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Speaker 3: were identified as athletes.
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Speaker 4: So many of them don't even understand who they are.
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Speaker 3: You know, they're trying to find their identity through it all,
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Speaker 3: through their journey, and oftentimes that comes too late during
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Speaker 3: retirement and that's where we see a lot of mint
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Speaker 3: health conditions as well that may come up. But when
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Speaker 3: you talk about an active athlete who is injured, who
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Speaker 3: actually is trying the top last year's number, who is
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Speaker 3: going for the three p I mean all of these
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Speaker 3: pressures mental conditioning cannot deal with.
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Speaker 4: I mean they have mental health issues just like us.
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Speaker 3: Actually, as a matter of fact, more of them have
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Speaker 3: mental health issues than the general population. So I thought
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Speaker 3: it was critical so they can understand that, Hey, I
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Speaker 3: see you, you're a human first, As a recognized psychiatrist,
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Speaker 3: I'm here to assist you. All of you may not
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Speaker 3: need medicine. All of you may just need a listening ear.
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Speaker 3: How about just wanting to hear what you want in life? Right,
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Speaker 3: wanting to understand what happened to last night's game that.
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Speaker 4: An interview didn't address.
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Speaker 3: They're already criticizing you before you were able to even
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Speaker 3: you know, process what's happened. So you know, it could
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Speaker 3: be as little as that or as big as an
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Speaker 3: issue is having a family history of trauma that got
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Speaker 3: them out the neighborhood to go pro That was a
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Speaker 3: part of their journey, right, So I wanted something that
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Speaker 3: it can be all inclusive, that athletes can take advantage
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Speaker 3: of and working with someone.
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Speaker 4: Like me, and that is trust. You know that they
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Speaker 4: can trust let measine it.
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Speaker 2: So you were there for them.
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Speaker 1: So why did you I hear what you know just
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Speaker 1: the journey we were talking about now, but early when
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Speaker 1: we came out of high school we started going into college.
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Speaker 2: What led you to this field? What led you to
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Speaker 2: this range of study?
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Speaker 4: Why it came to me? Rashaan.
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Speaker 3: I actually recently had graduated from my child Fellowship program
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Speaker 3: at Baylor, and I was in private practice for about
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Speaker 3: two two and a half years and a Houston Rocket
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Speaker 3: player came to see me in my private practice and
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Speaker 3: he and his wife came and he was experiencing anxiety.
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Speaker 3: He didn't know what the terminology was at the time,
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Speaker 3: but he actually said, I'm just I'm short of air
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Speaker 3: like I'm short of bread. I can't breathe, and these
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Speaker 3: are the conditions that lead to me not being able
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Speaker 3: to breathe. And so he was describing some of these
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Speaker 3: instances and we actually came up with the terminology that
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Speaker 3: identified him having panic attacks underneath the umbrella.
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Speaker 4: Of having an anxiety disorder. And so that's how it started.
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Speaker 1: And you know the.
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Speaker 3: Schools are so small, right, I mean, nowadays do you
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Speaker 3: have different professional associations that are gun hole for mental
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Speaker 3: health mental awareness? And I'm loving this initiatives that are
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Speaker 3: now out. But back then, even just six years ago,
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Speaker 3: it was difficult for him to come to me.
18:23
Speaker 4: He came with his wife.
18:24
Speaker 3: He experienced this for four or five years. It affected
18:27
Speaker 3: his game. It affected his game to the point he's
18:29
Speaker 3: not even playing anymore. He could very well be playing right.
18:34
Speaker 2: So, yes, that's how it's you know, the thing about it.
18:37
Speaker 1: First of all, when we talk about mental health, and
18:40
Speaker 1: because I people always said, Rishian, how do you juggle
18:43
Speaker 1: so much? Because there's levels of stress, you know. And
18:47
Speaker 1: I also know how to walk away, you know, like
18:49
Speaker 1: I watch TV. You know, you know you asked me
18:53
Speaker 1: on Netflix. I watch Netflix. You know, I watched Disney,
18:56
Speaker 1: you know, I watch sports. So what I'm telling everybody
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Speaker 1: is that what helps you is what walks you away
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Speaker 1: from the stress. And I remember when I bought the
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Speaker 1: house in Atlanta and I told my wife, I said,
19:07
Speaker 1: I got to be near water. She said why, I said,
19:11
Speaker 1: because I need to be able to walk out there
19:13
Speaker 1: and just see something simple.
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Speaker 2: And I remember we was. I'm just telling everybody and
19:18
Speaker 2: Joe just listen to.
19:19
Speaker 1: How I deal with stress. And because they're they're they're
19:22
Speaker 1: little tricks to it, and there are tricks that you
19:24
Speaker 1: can do yourself. But what I try to do myself
19:27
Speaker 1: is that I try to make sure that every day
19:29
Speaker 1: looks different. In other words, we was in the high
19:32
Speaker 1: rise doctor Brown, and I started noticing that the treetops
19:36
Speaker 1: looked the same every day, and I told him, O
19:39
Speaker 1: can't stay here.
19:39
Speaker 2: She said, well, I said, it looks the same. I said,
19:41
Speaker 2: I gotta have.
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Speaker 1: Something that triggers my mind to be creative into another journey.
19:48
Speaker 1: And so she said, oh okay, she's that's still prison.
19:50
Speaker 1: Now it looks same every day. I can teach the trees,
19:55
Speaker 1: I can tear these trees. I just don't count them, okay.
19:58
Speaker 1: And so so what happened I think in a lot
20:00
Speaker 1: of things, and I'm talking to a professional and I'm
20:02
Speaker 1: talking to you, is that how I deal with that
20:05
Speaker 1: and being able to deal with stress, deal with the anxiety,
20:08
Speaker 1: deal with depression.
20:09
Speaker 2: I tried to take myself in something normal. That's when
20:13
Speaker 2: I say normal, go to the park, you know, go fishing,
20:17
Speaker 2: do normal things.
20:19
Speaker 1: That are breaking the cycle create a different conversation. And
20:22
Speaker 1: with people stress, they're stressing because they're not breaking the norm.
20:27
Speaker 1: This is just Rushan McDonald's way of thinking about it.
20:29
Speaker 1: I just want to know, have I been on the
20:31
Speaker 1: right path all these years?
20:32
Speaker 2: Can you help me? I dot.
20:36
Speaker 4: Listen? Can you help me out.
20:39
Speaker 3: With your insightle of you to even bring that up,
20:44
Speaker 3: because it's about taking a break from that has been
20:48
Speaker 3: my complete message to people.
20:51
Speaker 4: Gotta take breaks, and they have to take a lot
20:53
Speaker 4: of them.
20:54
Speaker 3: Similar to you, Rashan, I actually relocated to another part
20:57
Speaker 3: of Houston because my primary goal was to have a
21:00
Speaker 3: view of the city in Michigan. I wanted a view
21:03
Speaker 3: of the city because that's what helps, you know, just
21:06
Speaker 3: really bring me back to reality. When I'm hearing different stories,
21:10
Speaker 3: traumatic story situations, people's anxieties, depression, it's easy for me
21:14
Speaker 3: to take that on.
21:16
Speaker 4: So I have to take a break.
21:17
Speaker 3: And having a view is very important and so that
21:19
Speaker 3: you'll determine where I am. And that has been a
21:22
Speaker 3: lifesaver for me. But you have to find something that's
21:26
Speaker 3: allowing you to break away from routine, from stress.
21:31
Speaker 4: Vacations are important.
21:33
Speaker 3: You got to schedule them like your schedule meetings, right,
21:39
Speaker 3: even your daily breaks.
21:41
Speaker 4: Any surprise for how many people don't even break during
21:44
Speaker 4: the day, you know.
21:45
Speaker 1: Now, That's that's why it was important when I when
21:47
Speaker 1: I scheduled this interview because of the fact that when
21:51
Speaker 1: you're starting a business, stress, when you're starting a relationship, stress,
21:56
Speaker 1: when you're having children, stress, when you're.
21:59
Speaker 2: Doing a job, you know different.
22:01
Speaker 1: That's why I had to mention about especially in the
22:03
Speaker 1: Houston market. We can go to different parts of the country.
22:05
Speaker 1: You can do the stress that came in the state
22:06
Speaker 1: of Georgia when President Trump and was down here saying
22:10
Speaker 1: that the voting was illegal, that they were cheating. You
22:15
Speaker 1: had the Republican stress, you had a Democrats stress, and
22:18
Speaker 1: then you had the Black Lives Matter.
22:20
Speaker 2: Movement running around. They were being called thugs, being called
22:25
Speaker 2: a terrorist group. That level of stress.
22:28
Speaker 1: Your profession, I would have to believe is understressed too, because.
22:34
Speaker 2: So many people are coming to you for so many
22:36
Speaker 2: new answers.
22:37
Speaker 3: Dr Brown, We're in a pandemic as well. Mental health
22:42
Speaker 3: is in its own pandemic. The good thing about it, ever, Raseean,
22:46
Speaker 3: is that people are coming to get help, and technology
22:50
Speaker 3: has been a huge king in creating that access for
22:54
Speaker 3: many people who formerly didn't have access, who didn't want
22:58
Speaker 3: to come to a place to get help.
23:00
Speaker 4: The screen the stigmat is a part of that.
23:02
Speaker 3: The stigmatizing experience from people where they're in the comfort
23:05
Speaker 3: of their homes talking about something that's triggering.
23:07
Speaker 4: And they're able to communicate that through a screen has
23:10
Speaker 4: been helpful.
23:11
Speaker 3: Insurance companies have gotten on board to provide coverage for
23:15
Speaker 3: telepsychiatry so that people can get help. EAPs are on
23:19
Speaker 3: board to be able to allow therapy sessions for their
23:22
Speaker 3: employees who have been at home over a year and
23:24
Speaker 3: a half. So people are understanding this mental health movement now,
23:29
Speaker 3: they understand how important mental health is and it is
23:33
Speaker 3: amazing to see that. But we're still in the pandemic
23:37
Speaker 3: and we're going to be in this for quite some time. So,
23:40
Speaker 3: you know, yesprectly everywhere.
23:43
Speaker 4: It's a part of our normalcy, our normal day life.
23:46
Speaker 3: But we have to understand that, hey, there is help
23:49
Speaker 3: out there in order for you to help manage that
23:53
Speaker 3: while you're dealing with it as well.
23:55
Speaker 2: Well.
23:55
Speaker 1: You know, the help is first of all, have to
23:57
Speaker 1: be acknowledged by you. You know, I you know, like
24:01
Speaker 1: I said, I I've acknowledged the fact that I need
24:04
Speaker 1: I need. I need to see things, movements and things
24:07
Speaker 1: like that that relax that's my triggers. And that's that's
24:09
Speaker 1: a popular word you hear, especially when you talk about
24:12
Speaker 1: mental health. What are your triggers whether what are the
24:14
Speaker 1: bad triggers and what are the good triggers.
24:16
Speaker 2: The good triggers for me is that I gotta be,
24:18
Speaker 2: so I gotta see change all the time. I gotta be.
24:21
Speaker 1: And I'm not talking about I gotta hear loud music,
24:23
Speaker 1: I gotta go to a party, I gotta drink. I
24:25
Speaker 1: gotta be the life of that. I'm stepping out of
24:27
Speaker 1: my own being to know I'm talking about. I go
24:30
Speaker 1: down to my little lake. I sit down and I
24:33
Speaker 1: watch the fish and it relaxes me. And if and
24:37
Speaker 1: then and it takes me down a little bit where
24:39
Speaker 1: I can't see any streets.
24:40
Speaker 2: I can see part of my house. So I'm almost
24:42
Speaker 2: in my little world.
24:44
Speaker 1: And so and it's kind of like that been that
24:46
Speaker 1: way for me, you know, my whole life, though, doctor Broh,
24:49
Speaker 1: I've unconsciously figured out positive triggers for me.
24:54
Speaker 2: You know, in New York, a lot of people I
24:55
Speaker 2: can't stand those crowds.
24:57
Speaker 1: I love the crowds, but then you come to my
24:59
Speaker 1: place is spacious, you know, and so I'm not so
25:03
Speaker 1: I don't care that crowded environment.
25:06
Speaker 2: Of the streets into my home environment. Hey hey, I
25:08
Speaker 2: got these walls too close. Okay. So it's really about
25:14
Speaker 2: some of the decision.
25:15
Speaker 1: But the bigger thing that I'll take away in this
25:17
Speaker 1: conversation and why you are so important, is that there's
25:20
Speaker 1: so many people who have not found the positive triggers,
25:23
Speaker 1: and that's why you are so important.
25:25
Speaker 2: Talk to us about that.
25:26
Speaker 3: Amen, Amen, I have an ADHD mind. I mean I
25:29
Speaker 3: have ADHD and the MV with ADHD if you will,
25:32
Speaker 3: And so like you, I love the noise, that action,
25:36
Speaker 3: the stimuli because it allows me to be moving with it. Right,
25:41
Speaker 3: I'm motivated by it and I'm driven, I'm productive.
25:44
Speaker 4: But then there are times when it's just too much
25:47
Speaker 4: for me and it's overstimulating. So I have to travel.
25:50
Speaker 3: So my positive trigger is international travel. And the reason
25:53
Speaker 3: I say international because it gets me out of my
25:55
Speaker 3: comfort zone.
25:56
Speaker 4: I go alone.
25:57
Speaker 3: I want to learn about different cultures that I don't
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Speaker 3: know anything about, meet new people. So it's a lot
26:04
Speaker 3: of newness that allows me to be in a very calming,
26:08
Speaker 3: right type of mood and zone.
26:11
Speaker 4: Positive triggers are so important.
26:12
Speaker 3: I'm glad you brought that up because oftentimes when we
26:14
Speaker 3: talk about triggers, the automatic thought process about that is
26:18
Speaker 3: it's negative. But no, are positive triggers, and we need
26:22
Speaker 3: positive triggers to balance out our ability to manage stress.
26:27
Speaker 3: We need positive triggers to understand when we to know
26:29
Speaker 3: when it's time to take that break, when it's time
26:32
Speaker 3: to take that vacation, right when it's time to go
26:35
Speaker 3: to bed at night. It's not you know, being up
26:37
Speaker 3: at two o'clock in the morning because you always want
26:38
Speaker 3: to have work to do.
26:40
Speaker 1: I want to say, I want to say something to you,
26:42
Speaker 1: doctor Brown, because I'm kind of a not a nod
26:44
Speaker 1: that you but annoyed in this system.
26:47
Speaker 2: You know, like because you know, May is you know,
26:49
Speaker 2: mental Health Awareness month.
26:51
Speaker 1: Okay, it's not just one month, everybody, okay, And that
26:57
Speaker 1: gives you a false sense that we're gonna recognize this
27:01
Speaker 1: man and the problem goes away.
27:03
Speaker 2: It's every day, every.
27:06
Speaker 1: Hour, how you deal with it, how you relate to it.
27:09
Speaker 1: And I brought doctor Brown on the show you Know
27:12
Speaker 1: to let you know that she's here for you. She's
27:15
Speaker 1: here to to give you a sense of awareness, a
27:19
Speaker 1: sense of a hope, an ear and when when, when
27:24
Speaker 1: that ear is listening to you, she's going to give
27:26
Speaker 1: you answers and if you if you don't have the answers,
27:29
Speaker 1: then she's willing to walk you through the steps to
27:31
Speaker 1: get to that answer. You coming when you come to
27:34
Speaker 1: a person like doctor Brown, her sinners, and what she's
27:37
Speaker 1: trying to do is she's trying to let you know
27:38
Speaker 1: that it's time to acknowledge there is something wrong.
27:44
Speaker 2: See that's the key, right.
27:45
Speaker 4: Doctor Brown, That's the key. And you know, mental health
27:48
Speaker 4: doesn't necessarily just mean I'm having thoughts, I'm hearing voices
27:54
Speaker 4: or you know, these these the kind of the extreme
27:58
Speaker 4: of it.
27:58
Speaker 3: It could be that I'm a he I'm tired, I'm
28:01
Speaker 3: my gear right, nothing is you know, I'm having thoughts
28:05
Speaker 3: that I'm not necessarily worthy. Like, mental health shows up
28:09
Speaker 3: for different people at different levels of severity. And I
28:13
Speaker 3: love people just you know, just like they get physical
28:15
Speaker 3: evaluations and physical checks up, check ups, if you will
28:18
Speaker 3: check ups.
28:18
Speaker 4: I would love if.
28:19
Speaker 3: People can go to a mental health professional and get
28:22
Speaker 3: an annual mental health checkup. Wow, how better they would be,
28:26
Speaker 3: How better this world would be. It just will be normalize.
28:29
Speaker 3: We've got a normalized mental health because it's important. We
28:33
Speaker 3: all experience mental health. Like just like you said at
28:35
Speaker 3: the beginning of our conversation, we all have mental health
28:38
Speaker 3: issues and wellnesses, and so it's important for us to
28:42
Speaker 3: take care of it, regard on what level it is.
28:44
Speaker 2: The thing about it when you talk about fatigue.
28:47
Speaker 1: I remember one day my wife, I'll get up and
28:50
Speaker 1: I'll just drive myself at the airport. And one day
28:51
Speaker 1: she said, I drive you. You know, I got to
28:53
Speaker 1: get up Earth and we were we were driving, she
28:56
Speaker 1: was driving me. She was looking at me in the passage.
28:58
Speaker 1: She says, he said, Wow, when are you tired? When
29:04
Speaker 1: do you When are you tired? I said, I'm tired
29:07
Speaker 1: right now. I said, but what I've learned, I've created
29:11
Speaker 1: triggers to be able to mask that, okay. And I
29:16
Speaker 1: said that's not a good thing too, to mask fatigue.
29:19
Speaker 1: And so when you when you're doing things, mask is
29:22
Speaker 1: a dangerous term in the mental and physical awareness because
29:29
Speaker 1: you can mask fatigue and it can lead to other issues.
29:32
Speaker 2: That's why you have to know your body in this case.
29:35
Speaker 2: You have to know your mind.
29:37
Speaker 1: And I'm not saying I'm a specialist. I'm just bringing
29:39
Speaker 1: you on the show. You are the specialist. And believe me,
29:42
Speaker 1: you got to come back on my show. I could
29:44
Speaker 1: be talking to you for another hour because you and I,
29:47
Speaker 1: first of all, we're connecting.
29:48
Speaker 2: But I think you understand how I think.
29:51
Speaker 1: And I have a lot of natural awareness, and but
29:54
Speaker 1: you have the technical awareness. Because I can't teach anybody
29:58
Speaker 1: what I know it that I've designed for myself. But
30:02
Speaker 1: you can't teach individuals and get them to walk the
30:06
Speaker 1: path of lightness, you know, come out of the light.
30:09
Speaker 2: And because mental health is darkness. If you live in nothing,
30:12
Speaker 2: you live in mental health. That light is not on
30:14
Speaker 2: in that room. It's not on. And you can help them.
30:18
Speaker 1: So tell us a little bit about it in the website,
30:20
Speaker 1: so we get that out there so we can just start.
30:22
Speaker 2: You know, you, you you my one, You Texas Texas,
30:25
Speaker 2: tex Us. The heights, the height, the heights. Let's walk
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Speaker 2: us out of here.
30:32
Speaker 4: Rashan.
30:32
Speaker 3: You know, that's why I really appreciate and respect your platform.
30:36
Speaker 4: I listen to you all the time, and I love
30:39
Speaker 4: your openness with others.
30:41
Speaker 3: I love your realness and you sharing your personal experiences
30:44
Speaker 3: so people can connect with you. That's why we connect
30:47
Speaker 3: so well. Because you're realist. You don't have to be
30:50
Speaker 3: an expert to understand how this works. Your realness and
30:54
Speaker 3: so I appreciate that about you. So thank you for
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