Latest / The Ben Ferguson Podcast / The Save America Act — FINALLY on the Floor of the Senate
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Welcome.
- 0:00Speaker 2: It is verdict with Center, Ted Kruz, Ben Ferguson with
- 0:03Speaker 2: you Center. I can't believe it as we sit here,
- 0:05Speaker 2: it is official. The Save Act has actually made it
- 0:08Speaker 2: to the floor of the Senate. So what's going to
- 0:11Speaker 2: happen next?
- 0:12Speaker 3: Well, after months of battling, the Save America Act is
- 0:15Speaker 3: finally on the floor of the Senate. The Save America
- 0:18Speaker 3: Act is basic common sense legislation that number one requires
- 0:22Speaker 3: everyone registering to vote to prove their American citizen and
- 0:26Speaker 3: number two requires.
- 0:27Speaker 4: Photo ID in order to be able to vote.
- 0:29Speaker 3: Vast majority super majorities of Americans support both of those requirements,
- 0:34Speaker 3: and yet the Democrats are fighting against us with everything
- 0:38Speaker 3: they got.
- 0:39Speaker 4: I'm leading the fight to get it past.
- 0:40Speaker 3: We're going to break down exactly what is happening with
- 0:42Speaker 3: the Save America Act this week, right now on the
- 0:46Speaker 3: Senate floor.
- 0:47Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 0:47Speaker 2: Before we get to that, though, there are so many
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- 2:29Speaker 2: So, Senator, let's talk about just first the lay of
- 2:32Speaker 2: the land and how we got to where we are
- 2:34Speaker 2: day and the vote. There's a lot of people wondering
- 2:37Speaker 2: what the vote was to move this forward. So now
- 2:39Speaker 2: there's debate, and so tell us who didn't vote for
- 2:42Speaker 2: this on the Republican side. It was a very tight vote,
- 2:45Speaker 2: and also explain what's going to happen over the rest
- 2:48Speaker 2: of this week.
- 2:49Speaker 3: Well, the vote on the Senate floor to take up
- 2:51Speaker 3: the Save America Act was fifty one to forty seven,
- 2:55Speaker 3: so fifty one Republicans voted to take it up. The
- 2:58Speaker 3: only no vote was Lisa murkows out of Alaska, and
- 3:01Speaker 3: then Tom Tillis from North Carolina, who is retiring, did
- 3:04Speaker 3: not vote, so he was not a no vote, but
- 3:06Speaker 3: he didn't vote. Other than that, every Republican voter to
- 3:10Speaker 3: take it up. And we're now in the midst of
- 3:12Speaker 3: the battle. Now we can anticipate the Democrats are a
- 3:15Speaker 3: hard no and so we're taking the case to the
- 3:18Speaker 3: American people and trying to build support for it. And
- 3:21Speaker 3: so I went to the Senate Florida lay out the
- 3:23Speaker 3: case for why the Say of America Act is so
- 3:25Speaker 3: critical and why the opposition for the Democrats is so ridiculous.
- 3:31Speaker 3: And so here's what I had to say on the
- 3:33Speaker 3: floor of the Senate this week.
- 3:36Speaker 4: As president.
- 3:37Speaker 3: Later this year, American citizens across the country will exercise
- 3:41Speaker 3: one of their most valuable and sacred rights, the right
- 3:45Speaker 3: to vote, a right that has been hard earned and
- 3:49Speaker 3: fought for from the founding generation.
- 3:52Speaker 4: Of our republic to today.
- 3:55Speaker 3: And how is the right to self government the right
- 3:58Speaker 3: to vote secured? It was secured by American colonists who
- 4:04Speaker 3: rejected the royal edict and hurdled Tea into Boston Harbor,
- 4:09Speaker 3: declaring no taxation without representation. It was secured by ordinary
- 4:15Speaker 3: men who seized their muskets and fired the shot heard
- 4:19Speaker 3: round the world at Lexington and Concord. It was secured
- 4:25Speaker 3: by Continental troops who marched to the fields of Saratoga
- 4:31Speaker 3: and the coastline of Yorktown, repeating those immortal words of
- 4:36Speaker 3: Patrick Henry.
- 4:38Speaker 4: Give me liberty or give me death.
- 4:42Speaker 3: For nearly two hundred and fifty years, Americans have cast
- 4:44Speaker 3: their votes for leaders at every level, from local officials
- 4:49Speaker 3: to state representatives to the President of the United States.
- 4:54Speaker 3: Every member of this body is here today because we
- 4:57Speaker 3: were elected fairly and honest and given a mandate by
- 5:02Speaker 3: our constituents to serve them here in Washington and to
- 5:06Speaker 3: protect the liberties and freedoms our founders.
- 5:08Speaker 4: Fought to preserve.
- 5:12Speaker 3: The power of the ballot box determines the course of
- 5:15Speaker 3: our nation, the history we are writing, and the freedoms
- 5:19Speaker 3: that we continue to defend. And while no single ballot
- 5:23Speaker 3: and isolation may seem decisive, together the votes of the
- 5:28Speaker 3: American people shape the course of our nation and the
- 5:31Speaker 3: course of history. But it is worth remembering that our
- 5:35Speaker 3: voting system did not begin as it exists today. When
- 5:40Speaker 3: this nation was founded, the right to vote was limited,
- 5:44Speaker 3: and over time, through debate, sacrifice, a bloody civil war,
- 5:49Speaker 3: and constitutional amendment, the right to vote was quite properly expanded.
- 5:55Speaker 3: The fifteenth Amendment prohibited denying the vote based on, the
- 6:01Speaker 3: nineteenth Amendment guaranteed women the right to vote, and the
- 6:06Speaker 3: twenty sixth Amendment lowered the voting.
- 6:08Speaker 4: Age to eighteen.
- 6:11Speaker 3: At every stage of our constitutional amendment process, the goal
- 6:15Speaker 3: was the same, to ensure that the right to vote
- 6:19Speaker 3: belonged to American citizens and that it was exercised with integrity.
- 6:25Speaker 3: And while our system has evolved, one principle has remained constant.
- 6:31Speaker 3: Elections reflect the will of the American people for a
- 6:36Speaker 3: right so sacred, for a privilege so hard fought.
- 6:41Speaker 4: It is shocking.
- 6:44Speaker 3: It is tragic how neglected and vulnerable the protection of
- 6:48Speaker 3: our elections has become. That is why I'm here today
- 6:53Speaker 3: on this very floor, urging the members of this body
- 6:57Speaker 3: to pass the Save America Act. It says that when
- 7:03Speaker 3: you register to vote in a federal election, you must
- 7:06Speaker 3: provide proof that you are a citizen of the United States,
- 7:12Speaker 3: and you must provide photo ID to vote.
- 7:16Speaker 4: In simple terms, that's it.
- 7:19Speaker 3: This is not some radical, politicized or weaponized piece of
- 7:24Speaker 3: legislation design to restrict Americans from voting. It is a
- 7:29Speaker 3: common sense measure that protects the integrity of our elections
- 7:35Speaker 3: by ensuring that American citizens, and only American citizens, are
- 7:40Speaker 3: voting in them. Legitimacy in a democracy rests on two pillars. First,
- 7:48Speaker 3: the mechanical integrity of the system to produce a valid result,
- 7:51Speaker 3: and second, the public's confidence in that system. If either
- 7:56Speaker 3: one fails, the system falters. If both fail, the system collapses.
- 8:04Speaker 3: A system that cannot be trusted is a system that
- 8:08Speaker 3: cannot govern. If you look around the world, between two
- 8:13Speaker 3: thirds and three quarters of countries require some form of
- 8:16Speaker 3: identification to vote. Why because it safeguards the integrity of
- 8:22Speaker 3: their elections and reinforces public trusts in their system.
- 8:27Speaker 4: So it begs the question.
- 8:31Speaker 3: Why hasn't the United States fully embraced this standard. Well,
- 8:37Speaker 3: for the last several months, we have heard claim after
- 8:41Speaker 3: claim about how this legislation would somehow inhibit people from voting,
- 8:46Speaker 3: that requiring identification is discriminatory, that the American people do
- 8:50Speaker 3: not support voter idmist president. Our Democrat colleagues are fond
- 8:55Speaker 3: of bellowing into the TV cameras that photo idea of
- 9:00Speaker 3: vote is Jim Crow, they tell us with mock earnestness.
- 9:08Speaker 3: Now I will admit our Democrat colleagues should be experts
- 9:13Speaker 3: in Jim Crow. Because it was Democrat politicians who passed
- 9:18Speaker 3: the Jim Crow laws. It was Democrat politicians who founded
- 9:23Speaker 3: the ku Klux Klan. It was Democrat politicians for decade
- 9:27Speaker 3: after decade who enforced discrimination separate but equal poll taxes,
- 9:37Speaker 3: and a host of other laws designed to prevent African
- 9:40Speaker 3: Americans from voting. But do you know who has rejected
- 9:45Speaker 3: their disingenuous claim that photo ID to vote is Jim Crow.
- 9:51Speaker 3: The Supreme Court of the United States. Supreme Court of
- 9:54Speaker 3: the United States, the state of Indiana passed photo ID
- 9:59Speaker 3: law require hiring that you show a photo ID to vote.
- 10:02Speaker 3: A group of left wing plaintiffs filed litigation challenging that.
- 10:07Speaker 3: The case went all the way to the United States
- 10:10Speaker 3: Supreme Court. At the time, I was the Solicitor General
- 10:12Speaker 3: of the state of Texas. I led a coalition of
- 10:14Speaker 3: states before the Supreme Court defending photo ID to vote,
- 10:19Speaker 3: and the left wing plaintiffs made the same argument that
- 10:22Speaker 3: our Democrat colleagues make today, that requiring photo ID to
- 10:26Speaker 3: vote would somehow disenfranchised minorities. The Supreme Court, by a
- 10:31Speaker 3: vote of six to three, rejected their argument. The author
- 10:37Speaker 3: of the majority opinion was John Paul Stevens. John Paul
- 10:39Speaker 3: Stevens was one of the great liberals on the court.
- 10:42Speaker 3: He was not a conservative, he was not on the
- 10:44Speaker 3: right wing. He was the leading liberal for years on
- 10:48Speaker 3: the US Supreme Court. He rejected that claim and He
- 10:52Speaker 3: pointed out that when someone votes illegally, they are stealing
- 10:57Speaker 3: the votes of legal voter. They are stealing the votes
- 11:02Speaker 3: of American citizens. The Supreme Court explained that when photo
- 11:05Speaker 3: ID laws have been implemented, minority participation in the election
- 11:10Speaker 3: goes up, not down. And the Supreme Court explained that
- 11:16Speaker 3: requiring photo ID enhances the integrity of an election and
- 11:19Speaker 3: the integrity of democracy. Now, our Democrat colleagues don't want
- 11:24Speaker 3: to acknowledge any of those facts, and I guess it's
- 11:28Speaker 3: understandable because the American people.
- 11:30Speaker 4: Have heard their specious.
- 11:34Speaker 3: Arguments and they have rejected them. Mister President, eighty one
- 11:38Speaker 3: percent of Americans support requiring photo ID to vote. But
- 11:45Speaker 3: my Democrat colleagues might say, what about African Americans, Well,
- 11:48Speaker 3: about three quarters of African Americans in the United States
- 11:51Speaker 3: require support requiring photo ID to vote.
- 11:55Speaker 4: How about Hispanics?
- 11:57Speaker 3: More than eighty percent of Hispanics in America support requiring
- 12:00Speaker 3: photo ID to vote.
- 12:01Speaker 4: How about Democrats? He's an astonishing statistic.
- 12:07Speaker 3: If you get out of elected office, if you ask
- 12:09Speaker 3: a Democrat on the street, seventy percent of Democrats in
- 12:13Speaker 3: America support requiring photo ID to vote. The one group
- 12:18Speaker 3: that doesn't are elected Democrats in the United States Senate
- 12:22Speaker 3: in the United States House. And by the way, the
- 12:30Speaker 3: premise of their argument that minorities, if you require photo
- 12:33Speaker 3: ID to vote, are not going to be able to vote,
- 12:35Speaker 3: is frankly insulting. Mister President, I'm proud to be an
- 12:40Speaker 3: a Hispanic American. I've been in Hispanic all my life. You
- 12:42Speaker 3: know what I've got in my wallet? I have a
- 12:45Speaker 3: driver's license.
- 12:48Speaker 4: I look at my.
- 12:48Speaker 3: Colleagues across the way, I feel confident they have drivers'
- 12:52Speaker 3: licenses in their wallets as well. Hispanics are not morons.
- 12:57Speaker 3: African Americans are not morons. And when you claim minorities
- 13:03Speaker 3: can't figure out how to get a driver's license, well gosh,
- 13:07Speaker 3: what do you need a photo ID to vote?
- 13:10Speaker 4: To do? Right now? In America? You need a photo.
- 13:14Speaker 3: ID to purchase alcohol or to purchase tobacco. You need
- 13:19Speaker 3: a photo ID to gamble or purchase lottery tickets. You
- 13:23Speaker 3: need a photo I D to go into a bar.
- 13:25Speaker 3: You need a photo ID to get on a plane.
- 13:28Speaker 4: You need a photo ID to rent a car. You
- 13:31Speaker 4: need a photo ID just to drive a car. Not
- 13:33Speaker 4: even to rent a car.
- 13:34Speaker 3: Drive a car, you need a photo ID to apply
- 13:38Speaker 3: for government benefits. You need a photo ID to enroll
- 13:42Speaker 3: in college. You need a photo ID to open a
- 13:46Speaker 3: bank account. You need a photo I D to check
- 13:49Speaker 3: into a hotel. And I gotta admit this is my
- 13:53Speaker 3: personal favorite. You need a photo ID, actually two photo
- 13:58Speaker 3: id's to shovel snow in New York City. These are routine,
- 14:05Speaker 3: every day activities.
- 14:07Speaker 4: The gallery is full.
- 14:08Speaker 3: I feel confident everyone in the gallery who is not
- 14:11Speaker 3: a child has a driver's license. And by the way,
- 14:15Speaker 3: you wouldn't be admitted to the gallery if you didn't.
- 14:19Speaker 3: And I feel confident every member of this chamber has
- 14:23Speaker 3: done just about anything I listed, well, except shoveling snow.
- 14:26Speaker 3: I'm not convinced many of my colleagues of snubble show
- 14:29Speaker 3: ah they do shovel other things. The question is not
- 14:35Speaker 3: whether Americans are bright enough to obtain photo ID.
- 14:40Speaker 4: We know they can't, and we know they do.
- 14:44Speaker 3: The real question is why would we not require the
- 14:48Speaker 3: same level of verification for something is consequential and vital
- 14:53Speaker 3: is voting. Are our Democrat colleagues saying voting doesn't matter
- 15:01Speaker 3: or is it something else? Voting is not just another
- 15:05Speaker 3: everyday activity. It rolls around every year a few years.
- 15:09Speaker 3: It is the vehicle that protects the principles of our
- 15:12Speaker 3: republic and safeguarding what matters. This legislation is necessary because
- 15:18Speaker 3: they're individuals and systems that can undermine confidence in our
- 15:21Speaker 3: elections if proper safeguards are not in place. And one
- 15:27Speaker 3: of the most apparent ways that we've seen is through
- 15:31Speaker 3: the masses of illegal immigrants that our Democrat colleagues let in.
- 15:34Speaker 4: Through open borders.
- 15:35Speaker 3: Over four years during the Biden administration, more than twelve
- 15:39Speaker 3: million illegal immigrants flooded into this country, the vast majority
- 15:44Speaker 3: through my home state of Texas. Now, mister President, understand
- 15:48Speaker 3: that was not an accident. That was not something the
- 15:51Speaker 3: Democrats could not stop. That was their desired outcome. How
- 15:56Speaker 3: do we know that Because the President Trump was sworn
- 16:03Speaker 3: into office for his second term, illegal border crossings plummeted.
- 16:11Speaker 4: Ninety nine percent overnight.
- 16:18Speaker 3: The Democrats said, no, Joe Biden can't secure the border.
- 16:21Speaker 4: He needs new legislation. We now know.
- 16:26Speaker 3: That was a lie. It was objectively false, and they
- 16:30Speaker 3: knew it was false. Well, if they could have secured
- 16:35Speaker 3: the border for four years and they chose not to,
- 16:38Speaker 3: they chose to let murderers into this country. They chose
- 16:41Speaker 3: to let rapists into this country. They chose to let
- 16:43Speaker 3: child molesters into this country. They chose to let gang
- 16:47Speaker 3: bangers into this country. They chose to let terrorists into
- 16:50Speaker 3: this country. We've had four radical Islamic terror attacks in
- 16:56Speaker 3: the last two weeks.
- 17:00Speaker 4: Why, mister President, would the Democrats choose to allow more than.
- 17:05Speaker 3: Twelve million illegal aliens to invade this country? And I'm
- 17:09Speaker 3: going to suggest the obvious reason, because the Democrats look
- 17:15Speaker 3: at those illegal aliens and they want them to cast
- 17:17Speaker 3: vote for Democrats in federal elections. Why are the Democrats
- 17:22Speaker 3: lined up and say, no, no, no, under no circumstances
- 17:26Speaker 3: should we test to see if you're an American citizen?
- 17:30Speaker 4: Under no circumstances should we require photo IDs.
- 17:36Speaker 3: You know, there was one activist a few years ago
- 17:38Speaker 3: who filmed himself going into a DC polling place. DC
- 17:42Speaker 3: polling place said sir, what's your name? And he said,
- 17:46Speaker 3: my name is Eric Holder. Now, this activist was not
- 17:50Speaker 3: the Attorney General of the United States at the time,
- 17:53Speaker 3: but yet DC handed him a ballot and said, mister Holder,
- 17:57Speaker 3: please cast your vote. The Democrats are lined up in
- 18:03Speaker 3: this chamber because they want our elections to be insecure.
- 18:11Speaker 4: They want voter fraud to be rampant and to be easy.
- 18:18Speaker 3: Ask yourself, do the American people have a difficult time
- 18:22Speaker 3: buying a beer? Do they have a difficult time getting
- 18:26Speaker 3: into an R rated movie? Do they have a difficult
- 18:28Speaker 3: time getting on airplane? Well? Yes, because the Democrats have
- 18:31Speaker 3: refuses to fund the TSA and so they're long lines
- 18:34Speaker 3: right now. But the lack of a photo ID is
- 18:38Speaker 3: not an impediment that stops.
- 18:39Speaker 4: People from flying.
- 18:44Speaker 3: This debate is about something very simple. Do our elections matter?
- 18:47Speaker 3: Does our democracy matter?
- 18:50Speaker 4: That?
- 18:50Speaker 3: Boy, mister president, I gotta say that is a phrase.
- 18:53Speaker 4: The Democrats love that they are defending democracy.
- 19:00Speaker 3: It's interesting their voice usually drops an octave when they
- 19:02Speaker 3: say that.
- 19:04Speaker 4: They clutch their pearls. And that's just the men.
- 19:10Speaker 3: Defending democracy, is what they say. Ask yourself, why are
- 19:19Speaker 3: they not concerned at all about twelve million illegals who
- 19:23Speaker 3: they let into this country voting illegally.
- 19:27Speaker 4: I'll submit.
- 19:29Speaker 3: Ockham's raisor provides. The simplest solution is usually the right one.
- 19:33Speaker 3: The simplest solution.
- 19:34Speaker 4: Is very clear.
- 19:36Speaker 3: The Democrats in this body want illegals to vote for them.
- 19:40Speaker 3: They want power enough that they are more than happy
- 19:43Speaker 3: to undermine democracy.
- 19:47Speaker 4: To try to seize power.
- 19:50Speaker 3: I get that from their personal self interest, but it
- 19:54Speaker 3: is not in the interest of the men and women
- 19:55Speaker 3: they represent. It is not in the interest of the
- 19:58Speaker 3: people of America. This bill is rightly called the Same
- 20:03Speaker 3: America Act. And mister President, if we were voting on
- 20:09Speaker 3: the merits of what was good for America, what was
- 20:11Speaker 3: good for democracy, what was good for American citizens, the
- 20:17Speaker 3: vote would be.
- 20:18Speaker 4: One hundred to nothing.
- 20:20Speaker 3: Although I would note on the other side of this building,
- 20:22Speaker 3: at the State of the Union address that you were
- 20:24Speaker 3: at that I was at, we saw why our Democrat
- 20:28Speaker 3: colleagues are so adamantly opposed to this bill. President Trump
- 20:33Speaker 3: turned to the Democrats on the right side of the
- 20:36Speaker 3: floor of the House, and it gave him an opportunity
- 20:39Speaker 3: to demonstrate with absolute clarity. He said, if you agree
- 20:44Speaker 3: our first priority should be to fight for American citizens
- 20:48Speaker 3: and not for illegal aliens, Please stand, and every single
- 20:55Speaker 3: Democrat in Congress remain seated, not a one of them.
- 21:02Speaker 3: I would notice we're on the floor today. Of the
- 21:04Speaker 3: forty seven Democrats in this body, only one.
- 21:07Speaker 4: Is here on the floor. But a whole lot more.
- 21:10Speaker 3: We're on the florid During the State of the Union,
- 21:12Speaker 3: every one of them chose to remain seated because they
- 21:15Speaker 3: could not support the statement that we need to support
- 21:18Speaker 3: American citizens and not illegal aliens.
- 21:22Speaker 4: That's why they oppose the.
- 21:23Speaker 3: Save America Act, because they want to be handed power
- 21:28Speaker 3: over this country by the illegal aliens they led into
- 21:30Speaker 3: this country. That's why we need to save America, and
- 21:38Speaker 3: it's why I urge every member of this body to
- 21:40Speaker 3: pass the Save America.
- 21:42Speaker 1: Act, Well said Senator.
- 21:45Speaker 2: And so now the big question is for everyone I
- 21:48Speaker 2: know that's listening or watching on YouTube, what's next and
- 21:52Speaker 2: where does this move from here?
- 21:54Speaker 3: Look, what should happen is we should have Republicans stand together,
- 22:00Speaker 3: should force the Democrats to do what's called a talking filibuster. So,
- 22:04Speaker 3: throughout most of the history of the Senate, a filibuster
- 22:08Speaker 3: involved the right.
- 22:09Speaker 4: Of unlimited debate.
- 22:10Speaker 3: It involved the right to stand up and talk and
- 22:12Speaker 3: talk and talk. Think about Jimmy Stewart and mister Smith
- 22:16Speaker 3: goes to Washington where he talks and he's pulling a
- 22:19Speaker 3: tie and he's falling over and he's like standing there
- 22:22Speaker 3: valiantly battling against bad legislation, or for that matter, what
- 22:27Speaker 3: I did in twenty thirteen, where I filibustered Obamacare and
- 22:32Speaker 3: talked for twenty one hours and stood on the Senate floor.
- 22:35Speaker 3: And by the way, when you're filibustering, you cannot sit down,
- 22:38Speaker 3: you cannot leave the floor, and you cannot use the bathroom.
- 22:40Speaker 4: Which is the most frequent question.
- 22:42Speaker 3: I get trivia point. So before I did that filipbuster,
- 22:47Speaker 3: Rand Paul had done a filibuster earlier in the year
- 22:50Speaker 3: for eleven hours, and I was fixing to get ready
- 22:55Speaker 3: to do it, and so I asked Rand if he
- 22:56Speaker 3: had any.
- 22:57Speaker 4: Advice, and he had two bits of advice. He said.
- 22:59Speaker 3: Number one, he said, wear comfortable shoes. So I have
- 23:03Speaker 3: to admit I wear just about every day, by the way, yeah,
- 23:07Speaker 3: just about every day in the Senate, I wear boots,
- 23:09Speaker 3: cowboy boots. I went and bought a pair of black
- 23:12Speaker 3: tennis shoes that I wore for my twenty one hour filibuster.
- 23:15Speaker 3: And I confessed at about two in the morning to
- 23:17Speaker 3: the people of Texas, I said, look, I'm embarrassed. I
- 23:21Speaker 3: lacked the strength of character or the strength of foot
- 23:26Speaker 3: to stand here twenty one hours in my boots. So
- 23:28Speaker 3: I'm wearing tennis shoes, and I said, I hope the
- 23:30Speaker 3: people of Texas will give me forbearance and forgive me.
- 23:34Speaker 3: But then second Ran said, he said what took him
- 23:38Speaker 3: out at the end of the day was not his
- 23:39Speaker 3: legs but his bladder. That after eleven hours he just
- 23:42Speaker 3: had to go. And I don't know about you, but
- 23:45Speaker 3: I'd never tried to go twenty one hours without going
- 23:47Speaker 3: to the bathroom.
- 23:48Speaker 4: I wasn't sure how that would go.
- 23:51Speaker 3: And in the entire course of the filibuster, I drank
- 23:54Speaker 3: one tiny little glass of water, and the basic principle
- 23:58Speaker 3: nothing in, nothing out. I just take a tiny sip
- 24:01Speaker 3: every hour or so and just kind of wet my throat.
- 24:04Speaker 3: But you had to stand there and talk and talk
- 24:06Speaker 3: and talk. That is exhausting.
- 24:08Speaker 1: By the way, you cannot lean on the lectern.
- 24:10Speaker 4: Right, No, no, you're you're not allowed to lean, so
- 24:12Speaker 4: you can't.
- 24:13Speaker 2: And even if someone comes to like give you or
- 24:15Speaker 2: ask you a question. There's a famous scene for people
- 24:17Speaker 2: that are West Wing watchers where somebody they were trying
- 24:23Speaker 2: to get a message the guy that was doing a filibuster,
- 24:25Speaker 2: and the guy walked in he said, may I ask
- 24:27Speaker 2: a question?
- 24:28Speaker 1: In essence, it was you know, some official way of
- 24:30Speaker 1: doing that.
- 24:31Speaker 2: But you can't lean on the on the lectern because
- 24:34Speaker 2: if you do, that's it right, Like you can take
- 24:35Speaker 2: a question to rest your.
- 24:37Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean the chair can call it, so you
- 24:39Speaker 3: can do. So what will happen when you're doing a
- 24:41Speaker 3: filibuster is other senators will come in and ask will
- 24:44Speaker 3: the senator yield for a question, and you can say yeah,
- 24:48Speaker 3: and you can say I will yield for a question
- 24:50Speaker 3: without yielding the floor. And then if it's an ally
- 24:52Speaker 3: of here. So for example, Mike Lee was on the
- 24:54Speaker 3: floor all twenty one hours I was there. He stayed
- 24:56Speaker 3: with me the whole time. So several times at two or.
- 24:59Speaker 1: Three of one, no wonder, he's your best friend in
- 25:02Speaker 1: the Senate.
- 25:02Speaker 4: Okay, Now, I and I had a number.
- 25:04Speaker 3: I had about a dozen senators who came and spelled
- 25:06Speaker 3: me for a period. Because when you're talking for twenty
- 25:08Speaker 3: one hours, your voice starts to hurt. So the thing
- 25:11Speaker 3: you will do is is Mike would ask would you
- 25:14Speaker 3: yield for a question, and I say, well, yield for
- 25:16Speaker 3: question about yielding the floor, and then he'd talk thirty
- 25:19Speaker 3: minutes and he'd get up and he'd like give a
- 25:22Speaker 3: you know, da da da da da, and like like
- 25:24Speaker 3: at three in the morning, we went through like seventies
- 25:27Speaker 3: rock songs and horrible puns and jokes. And then after
- 25:32Speaker 3: thirty minutes, you know, you can say, wouldn't you agree?
- 25:34Speaker 3: And that's the question you ask. And so it's a
- 25:38Speaker 3: way to give some relief. By the way, many people
- 25:41Speaker 3: remember during.
- 25:41Speaker 1: That if he sat down during the twenty one hours, right.
- 25:44Speaker 3: He can sit down. You know, anyone else can sit down.
- 25:46Speaker 3: It's just the person that has the floor that can't
- 25:48Speaker 3: sit down. And a lot of people remember that during
- 25:52Speaker 3: that filibuster, I read Green Eggs and Ham. What they
- 25:55Speaker 3: don't necessarily remember is why I read Green Eggs and Ham.
- 25:59Speaker 3: And at the time, our daughters were worth three and five,
- 26:06Speaker 3: and when I was home, I would read them bednights,
- 26:08Speaker 3: you know, bedtime stories every.
- 26:10Speaker 1: Night, bedtime stories.
- 26:11Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, And so as I was doing the filibuster,
- 26:14Speaker 3: it was their bedtime, and so we called home and
- 26:17Speaker 3: told them turn on the TV and turn on c SPAN,
- 26:21Speaker 3: and I read them Green Eggs and Ham because it
- 26:22Speaker 3: was their bedtime story. And they were my favorite picture.
- 26:27Speaker 3: You've seen it. It's in my office. Oh yeah, it's
- 26:30Speaker 3: a picture of the two little girls.
- 26:31Speaker 4: They're in matching pajamas. They're three and five.
- 26:35Speaker 3: And Catherine, the three year old, she has her hand
- 26:39Speaker 3: on the TV and she's watching in wonderment as her
- 26:42Speaker 3: daddy is reading her Green Eggs and ham on the
- 26:44Speaker 3: television set. And the look is just awesome. And then Caroline,
- 26:49Speaker 3: And you know Caroline, she's now seventeen, she was just five,
- 26:52Speaker 3: and she is She is a strong willed and spirited kid.
- 26:57Speaker 3: My fourteen years in the Senate, nothing I've done Senate
- 27:00Speaker 3: has impressed her except that.
- 27:02Speaker 4: And she is in that picture racking up laughing.
- 27:06Speaker 3: I mean, she thinks it's the funniest thing she's ever seen.
- 27:08Speaker 3: And when I came home that weekend, she looked at me,
- 27:11Speaker 3: her arms were crossed and she said, Okay, Dad, that
- 27:14Speaker 3: was pretty cool. But that's a philippment. By the way,
- 27:18Speaker 3: you want to fund that the true filibuster. Okay, you
- 27:21Speaker 3: want a fund bit of color.
- 27:23Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 27:23Speaker 3: At like nineteen twenty hours into it, Glenn Beck, who
- 27:27Speaker 3: you and I are both friends with, Glenn texts me
- 27:31Speaker 3: and says, man, you look too damn good. Your tie
- 27:35Speaker 3: is all there, your hair is comb You don't look disheveled.
- 27:39Speaker 3: Damn it, you need to look more like mister Smith
- 27:41Speaker 3: goes to Washington. So I have to admit I looked
- 27:43Speaker 3: at it. Glenn's got a good sense of like telling
- 27:46Speaker 3: a story. So I yanked my tie and I don't
- 27:49Speaker 3: think I messed up my hair, but I at least
- 27:51Speaker 3: loosened the tie and tried to look a little more disheveled.
- 27:54Speaker 3: After twenty one hours, you know, you shouldn't look like
- 27:57Speaker 3: you're just just popping out of bed.
- 28:00Speaker 4: That is exhausted.
- 28:01Speaker 2: But I didn't realize that you could have your phone
- 28:04Speaker 2: out during the filibuster.
- 28:05Speaker 1: That's actually interesting.
- 28:07Speaker 3: You're not supposed to. So technically the Senate rules, you're
- 28:10Speaker 3: not allowed to have electronics on.
- 28:11Speaker 4: The Senate floor.
- 28:12Speaker 3: Everyone violates that rule, so everyone has their phone, and
- 28:15Speaker 3: that's just a rule that is routinely ignored.
- 28:18Speaker 4: By the way, did.
- 28:20Speaker 1: You try to hide it, though I did try at
- 28:24Speaker 1: that point.
- 28:24Speaker 4: You don't.
- 28:25Speaker 3: You don't visibly do it while you're speaking, but you
- 28:27Speaker 3: can do it. It may have been during one of
- 28:29Speaker 3: the questions that I noticed, like I was looking at
- 28:31Speaker 3: the text and Glenn had sent me a text. By
- 28:33Speaker 3: the way, interestingly enough, during the speech that we just played.
- 28:38Speaker 3: So the Senate Parliamentarian, Jim Banks, Republican from Indiana, was presiding.
- 28:44Speaker 3: The Senate parliamentarian tried to convince him to sanction me
- 28:49Speaker 3: under Rule nineteen of the Senate Rules for impugning the
- 28:52Speaker 3: integrity of another Senator, and really and thankfully he just
- 28:58Speaker 3: told her go jump in a lake. I'm not going
- 28:59Speaker 3: to do it. And apparently she was mad because I said,
- 29:04Speaker 3: you know, it's not surprising that the Democrats are experts
- 29:06Speaker 3: on Jim Crow because they wrote the Jim Crow Laws
- 29:09Speaker 3: and they founded the KKK. And she thought that was
- 29:12Speaker 3: terrible for me to point out what are undeniable historical facts.
- 29:16Speaker 3: She thought it was somehow a violation of the Senate
- 29:19Speaker 3: rules to speak the truth. I have to admit the
- 29:23Speaker 3: parliamentarian previously, years ago, tried to get me to Rule
- 29:27Speaker 3: nineteen to rule that Mike Lee had done the same thing,
- 29:30Speaker 3: and I laughed at and said, no, I'm not going
- 29:32Speaker 3: to do that either.
- 29:36Speaker 4: You know, thankfully it.
- 29:37Speaker 2: Texts her stun thing. There's history to stebborn things sometimes, so.
- 29:41Speaker 3: Look a standing and talking filibuster is exhausting.
- 29:46Speaker 4: It takes a lot of energy, it takes a lot
- 29:48Speaker 4: out of you.
- 29:49Speaker 3: Under the Senate rules, each Senator is limited to two
- 29:54Speaker 3: speeches in a legislative day total. Now the Senate and
- 30:00Speaker 3: keep a legislative day going for weeks. A legislative day
- 30:04Speaker 3: goes until you adjourn the day. So if you look
- 30:07Speaker 3: at during the Civil Rights Act, yes, it can be weeks.
- 30:12Speaker 3: If you look at the Civil Rights Act in nineteen
- 30:14Speaker 3: sixty four, the Democrats filibustered against it. They were opposed
- 30:17Speaker 3: to it, they wanted segregation, and the leadership there forced
- 30:24Speaker 3: kept the legislative day open for weeks and kept forcing
- 30:28Speaker 3: them to filibuster and talk and talk and talk and talk,
- 30:30Speaker 3: and eventually it wore them down. And that's how the
- 30:33Speaker 3: Civil Rights Act in nineteen sixty four got passed. So
- 30:37Speaker 3: what I had been arguing to the conference at length,
- 30:39Speaker 3: we had to do the same thing. We had to
- 30:40Speaker 3: force the Democrats explain why you think illegal aliens should
- 30:44Speaker 3: be voting, Why you think that it's okay that you
- 30:47Speaker 3: need an ID to buy a beer at a bar
- 30:50Speaker 3: but not an ID to vote, and make them drive
- 30:54Speaker 3: them to the principle of exhaustion, drive them to the
- 30:56Speaker 3: point that they just can't fight anymore. Here's the rub
- 31:01Speaker 3: to do that Ben, we need fifty Republicans willing to
- 31:04Speaker 3: stand strong. To date, we haven't had that. We've been
- 31:08Speaker 3: arguing about this within the conference for several weeks. I
- 31:11Speaker 3: have been making the case as impassioned as I can
- 31:14Speaker 3: to my colleagues, and we are likely just short of fifty.
- 31:20Speaker 3: So if that doesn't change, what's going to end up
- 31:23Speaker 3: happening this week is we're going to vote again on
- 31:28Speaker 3: the Save America Act. Fifty or fifty one Republicans will
- 31:32Speaker 3: vote for it, but we'll need sixty unless we force
- 31:35Speaker 3: them to do a talking filibuster.
- 31:37Speaker 4: So it will fail this week unless something changes significantly.
- 31:40Speaker 3: That's infuriating, and so I'm calling on my colleagues, come on,
- 31:44Speaker 3: let's stand together and fight. And I'll tell you one
- 31:47Speaker 3: of the arguments my colleagues have used with me. They've said, look, ted,
- 31:52Speaker 3: if we fight and at the end of the day lose,
- 31:55Speaker 3: people will be discouraged and demoralized and they'll stay home
- 31:58Speaker 3: in November. And my response is, well, and I do too.
- 32:04Speaker 3: And my response was, look, Okay, maybe we lose. It's
- 32:07Speaker 3: not guaranteed one hundred percent victory, but you know how
- 32:11Speaker 3: you can guarantee one hundred percent losing. Don't fight, Like,
- 32:15Speaker 3: if we don't fight, it's one hundred percent that we lose.
- 32:18Speaker 3: So if we stand up and we fight and we're
- 32:21Speaker 3: all there there all night and we're battling, we're battling,
- 32:23Speaker 3: we're battling, and at the end of the day we
- 32:25Speaker 3: come up short, that gives people a lot more reason
- 32:29Speaker 3: to vote that if we don't get fifty, who are
- 32:33Speaker 3: even willing to fight? And so I think there's a
- 32:34Speaker 3: lot of frustration.
- 32:35Speaker 2: So to be clear, to be very clear for everybody
- 32:38Speaker 2: listening to do what you're advocating for, which is to
- 32:40Speaker 2: for sustaining filibuster, how many votes do you have to
- 32:43Speaker 2: have to get to that.
- 32:45Speaker 3: You've got to have fifty Republicans who will stand together,
- 32:48Speaker 3: because the fifty Republicans have to number one. Anytime the
- 32:52Speaker 3: Democrats want to they can suggest the absence of a quorum,
- 32:56Speaker 3: and we have to be able to produce fifty bodies.
- 32:58Speaker 1: Oh, everybody's got to be there. So everybody's got to
- 33:01Speaker 1: be there.
- 33:01Speaker 4: Yeah, you've got to physically be able to.
- 33:03Speaker 1: Could go for to be queer, that could go, as
- 33:06Speaker 1: you were saying, for days, right.
- 33:07Speaker 4: For days or weeks?
- 33:08Speaker 2: Yes, And in other words, there's some senators in the
- 33:12Speaker 2: Republican Party that just would rather go home. Yeah, we'd
- 33:15Speaker 2: rather go home on Thursdays like they always do. They
- 33:17Speaker 2: don't want to stay over the weekend. They don't want
- 33:19Speaker 2: to fight for this for a week or two.
- 33:21Speaker 3: And secondly, the Democrats can tee up amendments and try
- 33:25Speaker 3: to force votes on amendments. And we got to have
- 33:26Speaker 3: fifty Republicans that reject their amendments, that stand together, and
- 33:31Speaker 3: right now we have I don't know, forty seven, forty eight,
- 33:34Speaker 3: but we don't have fifty. And so we're having an
- 33:36Speaker 3: arguments with a handful who are saying no. And I
- 33:41Speaker 3: hope it changes, but right now, right now, we don't
- 33:46Speaker 3: have fifty.
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- 34:45Speaker 2: That's Compassion dot com final question on this one. When
- 34:50Speaker 2: will the American people know? What day will you guys
- 34:53Speaker 2: make this decision on either trying to vote for that
- 34:57Speaker 2: or just having a straight up vote that you know
- 34:59Speaker 2: you're gonna come up short on.
- 35:01Speaker 3: Yeah, if nothing changes, we will likely vote, have the
- 35:04Speaker 3: final vote on Thursday of this week, and we will
- 35:07Speaker 3: end up probably with fifty to fifty one fifty two
- 35:10Speaker 3: votes for the Save America Act, but we'll need sixty
- 35:13Speaker 3: and so the vote will fail if nothing changes.
- 35:16Speaker 4: That's where we're headed.
- 35:18Speaker 2: And then do you expect the present to weigh in
- 35:20Speaker 2: heavy on the strategy here? Does he know these two options?
- 35:23Speaker 2: And how much influence would I have if the President
- 35:26Speaker 2: came out and said, you know, damn it, men and
- 35:28Speaker 2: women stay in Washington, DC and fight this thing out
- 35:30Speaker 2: and let's see what happens.
- 35:32Speaker 3: Yeah, the President has said that multiple times, and that
- 35:35Speaker 3: has been a significant part of the argument. But we
- 35:38Speaker 3: still at the end of the day, you can't wave
- 35:41Speaker 3: a magic wand and produce the votes, and we're still
- 35:45Speaker 3: frustratingly short of fifty.
- 35:48Speaker 2: It's very interesting and very frustrating for many Americans. Don't forget.
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