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Van Jones, Dr. Ian Smith, J. Alexander Martin & Attorney Ben Crump · The Steve Harvey Morning Show

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Speaker 1: Got excited? Hey? Where's my interview? Where's my hand? Brother?
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Speaker 1: Is all you? The first break? Hey? Welcome the Money
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Speaker 1: Making Conversations. I'm your host, Rashan McDonald. I wanna make
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Speaker 1: conversations the show. I aid of view industry decision makers, CEO,
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Speaker 1: small businesses and your celebrities, and you learn the secrets
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Speaker 1: of their success. That's what this show is all about.
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Speaker 1: My first guess is definitely that type of person. He's
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Speaker 1: an entrepreneur, fashion designer, investor, television and lifestyle executive, co
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Speaker 1: founder of Fu Boo, and author of the book Money
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Speaker 1: Makes Me Crazy. How Squandered millions of dollars building the
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Speaker 1: fu Boo Empire. Please welcome to Money Making Conversations. J
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Speaker 1: Alexander Martin Hello, Hello, hello everyone, Hey Jay, how you
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Speaker 1: doing to be? Glad to be here? Hey man, I
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Speaker 1: appreciate you taking the time because I know who I'm
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Speaker 1: talking to. Well, let's get started here, man. First of all,
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Speaker 1: we got two breaks here, so I want to take
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Speaker 1: my time just talk about your journey because that's what
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Speaker 1: this show is all about. And that's what I appreciated
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Speaker 1: about your book because a lot of people always see
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Speaker 1: the end game, and the end game is you know,
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Speaker 1: they see people successful, but that beginning game is what
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Speaker 1: is so key to making you successful. Am I correct
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Speaker 1: in making that statement? No, you very much correct, very
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Speaker 1: much correct, And actually that there's also another part of
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Speaker 1: it when when when you look at the end game,
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Speaker 1: where is the end game gonna be? You know, it
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Speaker 1: could never end and sometimes it ends. You know that
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Speaker 1: is you say that? And it's really crazy because my
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Speaker 1: wife always tells me I never appreciate my success because
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Speaker 1: I don't you know, maybe I'm wrong, but I move
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Speaker 1: once I complete a goal, I moved to the next goal.
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Speaker 1: And because I don't, I think that's how it really works.
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Speaker 1: And then then I realized what I've accomplished maybe months later,
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Speaker 1: but I never realized what I accomplished immediately because I
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Speaker 1: am constantly readjusting the plan. I think that's where a
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Speaker 1: lot of people make a mistake on they reached their
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Speaker 1: goal and they feel, like you just said, they feel
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Speaker 1: that's it mhm, and that's not true. Yes, exactly, And
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Speaker 1: that's what you're trying to convey in your book. Correct
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Speaker 1: correct now and saying that what when you when you
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Speaker 1: sat down, because I wanted to bring up his name
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Speaker 1: because it was very instrumental, Ted mc mc lineman, Ted
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Speaker 1: m Now, you said, when you read his book, it
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Speaker 1: changed your whole focus, your whole approach to how you
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Speaker 1: looked at how you have been handling money. How could
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Speaker 1: somebody you successful that when you read this book now
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Speaker 1: it wasn't like back in ninety two. Now you're successful? Now?
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Speaker 1: Why why can I can read the book? Because I
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Speaker 1: want to let people know that you it's never too
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Speaker 1: late in the game to re educate yourself or educate
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Speaker 1: yourself and adjust how you're doing business. How could he
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Speaker 1: have to that big of an impact on you? Well, basically,
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Speaker 1: you know I came up in the world of of
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Speaker 1: of of of people, you know, kind of show me.
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Speaker 1: You know, everything is about show what I have, Show
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Speaker 1: what you do, you know, prove what you could do. Um,
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Speaker 1: you know, spend, spend, spend, you know, marketing, marketing, marketing.
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Speaker 1: I mean I remember going the F I T and
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Speaker 1: and I was in the buying program, buying merchandise the
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Speaker 1: program and all my peers were in the merchant of
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Speaker 1: marketing department, you know, going to tool for big marketers.
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Speaker 1: And I never really understood that. But again, you know
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Speaker 1: what I would do is I would you know, when
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Speaker 1: when we start first started making a bunch of money,
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Speaker 1: first thing I want to do is go out first
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Speaker 1: thing I want to do is go out and buy stuff.
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Speaker 1: You know, all the things I've never had, you know,
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Speaker 1: all the things that you know my parents never was
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Speaker 1: able to get me. You know I've had I've had.
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Speaker 1: You know, if you grew up in a household with
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Speaker 1: only one or two TVs, you know, and you have
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Speaker 1: to share it. You know, first thing you do is
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Speaker 1: when you get your your first home, is you put
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Speaker 1: a TV in every room. Ain't that wrong with that?
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Speaker 1: Ain't not wrong with that? You know, you know, but
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Speaker 1: but there's nothing wrong with that, but then it comes
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Speaker 1: to a point where there where you have to draw
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Speaker 1: the line and and and do things differently. And and
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Speaker 1: one the value of that book, of Tim mcliman's book,
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Speaker 1: um And and the Corporation, the collaboration between us two
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Speaker 1: was the fact that he made me understand that I
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Speaker 1: was a spender. Wow, who once you once each at
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Speaker 1: the blind phones the blind right, so they again you
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Speaker 1: know if you obviously you said if you're at it,
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Speaker 1: you know, once you understand that that's what you are,
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Speaker 1: then you could begin to kind of help and and
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Speaker 1: and and change your problem with change the situations. I
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Speaker 1: had to understand that without you know, I just couldn't
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Speaker 1: take momm all my money came in and I just
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Speaker 1: had to kind of give it to somebody else to
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Speaker 1: kind of manage because if not, it's all going right
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Speaker 1: right right, And I would tell you something you're not
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Speaker 1: along in that journey. I remember when I was going
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Speaker 1: up through the television started getting bigger and bigger than
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Speaker 1: the money was bigger, you know. I remember one time
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Speaker 1: I had like three Mercedes, you know, I had, I
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Speaker 1: had I had the email, I had the email sup
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Speaker 1: to AMG version and it's just a regular email. And
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Speaker 1: then I had three three three twenty. It was like, Okay,
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Speaker 1: why are you why are you driving all these vehicles?
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Speaker 1: And you can't drive all these vehicles? So so but
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Speaker 1: but but but what what? What? Because I want to
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Speaker 1: be honest with with my listeners and also with you,
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Speaker 1: because I think we're connected a little bit, because I
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Speaker 1: was just driven by just because I could buy it.
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Speaker 1: And yes, and that's dangerous, correct, Yes, very much dangerous.
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Speaker 1: And I can tell you even in a small a
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Speaker 1: small tale um. And I writed a book about you know,
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Speaker 1: just going to a hotel and you go and you
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Speaker 1: just go to the mini bar, right and you go
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Speaker 1: to the mini bar and you think, okay, because of convenience, Hey,
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Speaker 1: I'm just gonna just take I'm gonna take this this
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Speaker 1: bottle of little little bottle of liquor. But that same
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Speaker 1: little bottle look is the same prices as a three leader.
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Speaker 1: You know, you know, think about it, because you just
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Speaker 1: do it. I'm would tell you something, man. I was
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Speaker 1: just I'm in Houston right now. I was in the
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Speaker 1: l A this weekend and we staid at Intercontinental Hotel
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Speaker 1: and so this is just so funny. You say that
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Speaker 1: because I looked at the mini bar and I wanted
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Speaker 1: one of those some m and ms some peanuts and
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Speaker 1: that Eminem's the peanut was five dollars in that room.
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Speaker 1: I just got pushed my button, went down the hotel
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Speaker 1: and got it for a dollar and to and to
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Speaker 1: look concessius. Stand right, it's out of the the hotel. So
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Speaker 1: so it's like, you know, you said, well, if you
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Speaker 1: got to spend it, but if you why just take
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Speaker 1: the time to readjust your thought part them, because if
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Speaker 1: you wasted it on a candy bar or ten dollar
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Speaker 1: beer or eight dollar sprite out of that refrigerator in
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Speaker 1: the hotel, that means that you're making that same area
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Speaker 1: error elsewhere in your in your financial planning. Correct correct, correct,
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Speaker 1: And I'm not I'm not claiming to be and no,
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Speaker 1: no am I claiming to be or saying that I'm
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Speaker 1: you know, some big, you know, master wiz when it
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Speaker 1: comes to money. That's why again, like why I hooked
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Speaker 1: up with Ted. You know, Ted is more, you know, more, more,
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Speaker 1: more of that. But what I did have to understand is, okay, Ja,
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Speaker 1: if you want to have money for the rest of
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Speaker 1: your life and you then you need to take of
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Speaker 1: something else, that changing the value taking your way. You know,
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Speaker 1: I laughed because you saying is that you are me
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Speaker 1: and I'm you? Because because it took me a minute,
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Speaker 1: I was going, like, who am I competing with? You know,
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Speaker 1: because obviously when you're spending that kind of money, you
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Speaker 1: have to say, who are you competing with? You? You're
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Speaker 1: obviously competing with somebody. If you're spending money ridiculously like this,
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Speaker 1: you know, just just you know, whatever, whatever in your pocket,
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Speaker 1: you know you're you're spending it. It's not even standing there,
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Speaker 1: it's it's just goals. And so so my turning point
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Speaker 1: for me was just to be honest with myself and
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Speaker 1: to be honest with what you're doing is stupid. I
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Speaker 1: had to tell myself, you're stupid, Rashan, this makes no
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Speaker 1: sense what you're doing. You're stupid, and that when I
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Speaker 1: when I made that confession to myself, it really helped me.
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Speaker 1: It really helped me. And what I know that the
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Speaker 1: book helped you, the relationship with Ted helped you. But
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Speaker 1: what were the honest statements that you made to yourself
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Speaker 1: that turned you around? Well, I mean, listen, honestly, the facts,
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Speaker 1: the facts you look at your bank account right at
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Speaker 1: the end of the year, and and it is nothing
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Speaker 1: con fair to what you had before. And then you
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Speaker 1: look at you know, if you look at the America
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Speaker 1: Espresto and then basically itemizes um, you know everything entertainment,
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Speaker 1: touch in and and food and you know, and and
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Speaker 1: bills and utilities and all that stuff like that. And
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Speaker 1: when you look at it and you see how much
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Speaker 1: you spent on just thinking you had fun, you know,
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Speaker 1: how much you spent are not necessarily keeping up with
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Speaker 1: the joneses, but making yourself feel better, you know, because
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Speaker 1: a lot of times it's still feel good. You know,
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Speaker 1: when you walk up when you walk into the mall
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Speaker 1: and you look to the left and you see sale,
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Speaker 1: you think you did something. You think, okay, well you know,
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Speaker 1: but but you know that beat than anybody. Mr. Clothing,
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Speaker 1: many like I know better. There's a couple of which
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Speaker 1: I want to pull from your book. I want to
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Speaker 1: read is like you said this, most everything you know
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Speaker 1: about money do you meaning you Jay know about money,
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Speaker 1: business and wealth you learned the hard way by trial
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Speaker 1: and error. You also said the purpose of this book
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Speaker 1: is to create a sound force of reason and your
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Speaker 1: money making decisions like it because a lot of people
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Speaker 1: put their decisions on faith only that right there is
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Speaker 1: a major mistake. And then you said your financial engagement
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Speaker 1: should be Twitter four seven, three hundred and sixty five
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Speaker 1: days a year. That's that's I'm all three of those quotes.
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Speaker 1: I'm on I'm on point with you, my friend. That's
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Speaker 1: why I'm hoping that anybody who listens bookcause you're gonna
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Speaker 1: play this show is gonna be on our heart radio
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Speaker 1: podcasts also on the Rise platform. Is to let people
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Speaker 1: know that I'm recommending this book because the fact that
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Speaker 1: you should not be in a position to have any
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Speaker 1: of your money in a child trial and error. Right morey,
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Speaker 1: you know, you you buy the car and a year
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Speaker 1: later the car no either maybe five hundred dollars or
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Speaker 1: depending on the type of car you get, and you
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Speaker 1: were like, guess what, because you know the thing about
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Speaker 1: it that people need to understand, when you start leasing
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Speaker 1: these cars, they put they put a mileage restriction on Yeah,
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Speaker 1: so you really can't. You know, you're not looking at that.
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Speaker 1: You're looking at like, listen, I got this car and
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Speaker 1: everybody's looking at me. Yeah. Yeah, And that's right there.
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Speaker 1: Let you know that you're not in allowing yourself to
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Speaker 1: really maximize the value of the money you're putting out there.
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Speaker 1: Right If somebody telling you you can only drive eleven
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Speaker 1: thousand miles a year, okay, that means you have to
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Speaker 1: look at that car a different way. And that's how
12:44
Speaker 1: you wind up getting multiple cars because of the fact
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Speaker 1: that that car, to you, that limit is gonna come up.
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Speaker 1: So you go, okay, I don't wanna get penalized, you
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Speaker 1: know when they when I turn it in, because I've
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Speaker 1: seen the let me go get this other car. So
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Speaker 1: you just start sliding from one era to the next era.
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Speaker 1: And that's the trial and error that you're talking about,
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Speaker 1: because you talking about the Rolex watches, all those things
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Speaker 1: that you said, Hey man, if I've spent sixty thollars,
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Speaker 1: I spent sixty thou dollars on this watch. Why that's
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Speaker 1: that's the funniest term that I love about your book.
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Speaker 1: Used the word why why am I doing this? Why
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Speaker 1: you know? You you you want? You know. I looked
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Speaker 1: back at myself, I said, well, were you not entertained?
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Speaker 1: I love it, Jay, man, this is you know, a man,
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Speaker 1: because this is this is why I'm so appreciative or
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Speaker 1: you're getting on the call. First of all, you're allowing
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Speaker 1: us to allowing yourself to be honest because a lot
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Speaker 1: of people who are successful, and I'm telling everybody about this,
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Speaker 1: is that you gotta you have to have made mistakes
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Speaker 1: to be successful that way, you see the problem, because
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Speaker 1: because that same mistake is gonna come up again, and
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Speaker 1: how you have that same mistake, it's gonna be how
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Speaker 1: successful you're gonna be moving forward because you're not. I'm
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Speaker 1: still a working products right, you know, right, I still
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Speaker 1: working progress. But at least now you know, I go
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Speaker 1: through the emotions of okay, alright, you're sure you know?
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Speaker 1: All right? Well, instead of getting three, let's just get one, right, okay,
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Speaker 1: right right, right, right right? Man? This is they tell
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Speaker 1: me I got to go to break. I'm gonna come back.
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Speaker 1: We're gonna talk about a little bit more about your book.
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Speaker 1: We're gonna talk about you know you as you as
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Speaker 1: a man, a man who served our country and how
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Speaker 1: that changed your life, you know, and how the team
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Speaker 1: came together, because we at least gotta tell everybody how
14:31
Speaker 1: the food Boo brand got started. You know something, we
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Speaker 1: all have one and part of lives and how you
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Speaker 1: played such a uh amazing Damon John, We're gonna talk
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Speaker 1: about him, but just like with Steve Harvard, you know
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Speaker 1: I was there, you know what I'm saying. Just like
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Speaker 1: with Damon, you've been there, and we're gonna talk about
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Speaker 1: your success stories that you have coming up and the
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Speaker 1: project you haven't working on. But I just want to
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Speaker 1: get started with the whole book because that's what people
14:54
Speaker 1: can get now, to get information about how you think,
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Speaker 1: what making what makes you success for if you follow
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Speaker 1: the the the platforms and the temperament. That's a favorite
15:05
Speaker 1: word in that book. What's your temperament about the Absolutely
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Speaker 1: my friend, we've been right back with more. J Alexander Martin,
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Speaker 1: co founder of the Food Food Food Boot Empire, Money
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Speaker 1: Making Conversations. Thank you, Hi, They're welcome back to Money
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Speaker 1: Making Conversation. My guests is Um fashion designer, investor, television
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Speaker 1: lifestyle executive, co found of Foo Boo and the author
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Speaker 1: of a new book Money Makes Me Crazy, How it
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Speaker 1: squandered millions of dollars building the Food Book Empire, the
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Speaker 1: Food Boo Empire, just the three guys getting together co
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Speaker 1: op program for I should say, I'm meaning you, I
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Speaker 1: apologize me, you and three more guys. I apologize. I
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Speaker 1: know it for y'all because you're made the car, you're
15:51
Speaker 1: mad in the co op program, and it's just and
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Speaker 1: and and and so and so. But but your initial
15:55
Speaker 1: start to all this was you thought your way to
15:58
Speaker 1: life was going to be the name Yeah and you
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Speaker 1: and you got injured in a cab ride, which you
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Speaker 1: said in the book your host felt the safest way
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Speaker 1: to travelers a cab, and you want to get injured
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Speaker 1: in a cab. And so that was that was the
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Speaker 1: first kind of like turn in your life that pushed
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Speaker 1: you in a different direction that you didn't expect to go.
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Speaker 1: And then and so so when you met these guys
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Speaker 1: and you got to your start understanding you all have
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Speaker 1: similar value, that's what that's what really galvanize it all.
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Speaker 1: What was the was the turning point that said, you know,
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Speaker 1: foo boo the logo, it was inspirational when it was
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Speaker 1: shown to you, But but damon, what made you say
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Speaker 1: we can do this? Because that's when people need to hear.
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Speaker 1: When they got all these ideas, they got all what
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Speaker 1: was the thing? What were the things in place that
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Speaker 1: made you say we can do this well, you know,
16:48
Speaker 1: funny thing about me people always ask how do you
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Speaker 1: do stuff? Or or how did you get to hear?
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Speaker 1: What was? What was the actual method? I think, to
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Speaker 1: be honest, it's drive. And you have to have a
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Speaker 1: certain drive to just do anything. I don't care if
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Speaker 1: it's to study for a test, is to go to school,
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Speaker 1: and to start a business, if it's even just to work,
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Speaker 1: you know, and and work for somebody. You have to
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Speaker 1: have a certain drive. And my drive was to be
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Speaker 1: more of an entrepreneur is to be successful because I've
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Speaker 1: seen people around me that was successful, you know, and
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Speaker 1: not necessarily saying that they were mentors or anything, but
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Speaker 1: just you know, I just saw success and that's what
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Speaker 1: I wanted and you got it and you got it
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Speaker 1: and I got it. And by any means necessary and
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Speaker 1: necessary to say any means necessary as far as as
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Speaker 1: far as you know, in any interrogatory way or any way.
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Speaker 1: But but you know, I'm gonna work. I'm gonna work,
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Speaker 1: and I'm gonna work, and I'm continue working and continue
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Speaker 1: work and continue working, you know, to make it reality.
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Speaker 1: But but one thing about if you're making things reality
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Speaker 1: to just to throw out is that you have to
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Speaker 1: understand what reality is. You know, you can't before one
17:59
Speaker 1: talking about I'm gonna be as center right, and that's
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Speaker 1: I don't want to back up what you said about
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Speaker 1: any means necessary, any means necessary. If that if you
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Speaker 1: if it's twenty four hours in the day, you learn
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Speaker 1: to use every hour in the day. If you gotta
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Speaker 1: stay away for twenty five hours in that same day,
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Speaker 1: you stay at for twenty five hours, that's the enemy
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Speaker 1: enemies necessary that you're talking. You have to if you
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Speaker 1: have to do every job in that business, then that
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Speaker 1: enemies necessary. You know, some people just you know, that's
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Speaker 1: a certain I think I don't want to see people lazy.
18:29
Speaker 1: Some people are, you know, they wanted fast. You know,
18:33
Speaker 1: I understand that I have to go through the grinds
18:35
Speaker 1: and you can't cheat work. You know, work, work, those
18:38
Speaker 1: difference you're gonna achieve that work. That's true. That's true
18:43
Speaker 1: because I know that, and I don't I don't love.
18:45
Speaker 1: I never allowed my employees to frustrate me because sometimes
18:50
Speaker 1: because everybody, like you said, it isn't made from the
18:53
Speaker 1: same cloth, are built from the same model, and so
18:56
Speaker 1: you just hire people but they're not visionaries. And that's
18:59
Speaker 1: what a lot of you about to understand that if
19:01
Speaker 1: you was hiring vision there is they're not gonna be
19:03
Speaker 1: working for you long anyway. But if you're hiring employees,
19:07
Speaker 1: understand that you're hiring them for a particular task. Don't
19:10
Speaker 1: expect them to come in there and suddenly go and
19:13
Speaker 1: be over that engaging and and and thinking ahead of
19:16
Speaker 1: the curve, or thinking a month in advance, or thinking
19:19
Speaker 1: of different ways to to make your business more successful.
19:23
Speaker 1: They're basically gonna do what you hired them for that job.
19:27
Speaker 1: And that's what people make a mistake too. They just
19:29
Speaker 1: or she's sorry, He's sorry, Well, okay, is he? Why?
19:33
Speaker 1: Because I expected more of them? Okay? Was that part
19:35
Speaker 1: of the job description? I expected more out of you?
19:39
Speaker 1: Was that written out in the job description? I expected
19:41
Speaker 1: more out of you? And if it was, what was
19:44
Speaker 1: written next to the mo because they need to know
19:47
Speaker 1: that so they can do the job you want them
19:48
Speaker 1: to do. Now, now you got one of the jobs
19:51
Speaker 1: that interests me the most that you're the president of
19:54
Speaker 1: the New York State Black Chamber of Commerce. Please tell
19:57
Speaker 1: me exactly what is that and how do you empower
20:01
Speaker 1: people with that position? Well, well, basically, I give you
20:04
Speaker 1: the bad story. Uh one, um when we laughed because
20:07
Speaker 1: I say, you know, Damon's the shark and I'm the dolphin.
20:10
Speaker 1: So so I basically I UM at one of the
20:15
Speaker 1: trips to Africa and I met the president of the
20:20
Speaker 1: National Black Cheam of Commerce. So I walked up to
20:22
Speaker 1: them and I said, you know, I'm the quintessential black
20:26
Speaker 1: owned business. Like if you know money, everyone knows fruit,
20:28
Speaker 1: but when it comes to business, why I don't know you?
20:31
Speaker 1: Why you don't know me? So he looked at me
20:34
Speaker 1: like huh, and I said, yeah, why do you don't
20:36
Speaker 1: know me? Who you know? Why we don't know each other.
20:39
Speaker 1: So from then on we started relationship. So I started
20:42
Speaker 1: helping them, the National Black teammates out for a while
20:45
Speaker 1: and um, helping them to speaking engagement things like that,
20:49
Speaker 1: you know, and actually just putting in my time. You know.
20:51
Speaker 1: It was just wasn't a paid gig nothing like that.
20:53
Speaker 1: It was just just what I what I wanted to
20:55
Speaker 1: do because it's to help because again I'm a you know,
20:58
Speaker 1: black owned business and respects. I want to help and
21:00
Speaker 1: bring more, you know, and create more black owned businesses.
21:03
Speaker 1: So they want to put me on the board and
21:06
Speaker 1: then after that, they wanted to start a New York chapter,
21:09
Speaker 1: uh new York State chapter. Today it was you know,
21:12
Speaker 1: they kept kept Jay. You know, maybe you should start it.
21:14
Speaker 1: Maybe you started. I'm like, come on, man, you know
21:17
Speaker 1: my time is really you know, is it's difficult. I
21:21
Speaker 1: don't know if I can be able to do this.
21:22
Speaker 1: So after a while, with a lot of cohercing and cohercing,
21:26
Speaker 1: I finally said, okay, let's do it. So I started that. Basically,
21:29
Speaker 1: what it does is basically helps you know, uh um,
21:32
Speaker 1: you know urban And I don't want to just say
21:34
Speaker 1: black because again, you know, it is for us to
21:38
Speaker 1: help us and we all four fight. But in turn,
21:40
Speaker 1: we still have to open our arms out to a
21:42
Speaker 1: lot of different businesses because if we don't, you know, grow,
21:45
Speaker 1: we can't grow with We can grow within ourselves, but
21:48
Speaker 1: we can really grow if we can take you know,
21:50
Speaker 1: take on everybody and help others everybody, you know, because
21:54
Speaker 1: in the world is not just up, you know, although
21:56
Speaker 1: it is you know it, although we are the you know,
21:59
Speaker 1: the top to soon Mers and that respect as well,
22:01
Speaker 1: but you know, I try to help everybody in sex.
22:04
Speaker 1: So so that's what I have. You know, I'm the
22:06
Speaker 1: president of that um. UM it's comming newly found UM
22:10
Speaker 1: within like another year, year, a year and a year
22:13
Speaker 1: and a half. We've been we've been around and we're
22:16
Speaker 1: doing to you know, we're getting a couple of loans. UM.
22:19
Speaker 1: I was kind of proud of that, UM and help
22:21
Speaker 1: a couple of businesses, UM networking, a couple of networking
22:25
Speaker 1: events and um just just trying to help grow businesses, right,
22:29
Speaker 1: and that's important. Now let's go to something even closer
22:32
Speaker 1: to you foo Boo tv M. Yes, well your vision,
22:37
Speaker 1: your vision, yes, yes, well, well basically what foo Boo
22:44
Speaker 1: of course has been around for it since you know,
22:46
Speaker 1: actually we're going on anniversary. UM. So we've been around
22:52
Speaker 1: for a long time. And as you in business, you
22:54
Speaker 1: have to kind of you know, we always tell us
22:56
Speaker 1: tell everybody we used to see and people's act and
22:59
Speaker 1: entertain right now is the kind of the focal point
23:02
Speaker 1: of how you market you know, your clothing or market anything.
23:06
Speaker 1: So in turn, instead of we always used to say
23:08
Speaker 1: to ourselves, why why don't we just do it ourselves?
23:11
Speaker 1: So and so and we've had you know, a number
23:13
Speaker 1: of licensees, So what we did was saying, why don't
23:16
Speaker 1: we start our own licensees. I started the television division
23:19
Speaker 1: and respect because I know that if instead of me
23:22
Speaker 1: buying time and on others situations, I'll might as well
23:27
Speaker 1: buy time on my own, you know. And then I
23:30
Speaker 1: create shows and put twenty put you know, my clothing
23:34
Speaker 1: and my shows, you know, so so I could do
23:36
Speaker 1: it myself, you know. You know that what we did
23:40
Speaker 1: UM but actually grown to be h UM. We started
23:43
Speaker 1: out with a bed on demand, UM we have We're
23:47
Speaker 1: on UM Comcast, we're on Verizon and we're on UM
23:53
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Frontier, and we have a couple of other
23:56
Speaker 1: deals that depending. I can't mention it yet until actually
23:59
Speaker 1: jo um, but UM eventually uh. And we did this
24:04
Speaker 1: and respects the video demand because one you know, and
24:07
Speaker 1: I don't want to call it the starter kid per se,
24:08
Speaker 1: but you know, in respects it is UM and we
24:11
Speaker 1: do video on demand and that's where all the millenniums
24:14
Speaker 1: are actually looking. And they want TV when they want it,
24:15
Speaker 1: and they want it now. You know, no one just
24:17
Speaker 1: wants to go. You know, everybody's time is valuable, so
24:22
Speaker 1: they have they kind of want to watch TV when
24:24
Speaker 1: they when they have to, when they went when they
24:25
Speaker 1: want to rather so that's why we did that first.
24:27
Speaker 1: And eventually you probably will go off and and and
24:30
Speaker 1: have a folk fledged uh network, but that will being
24:33
Speaker 1: the more in the future. So back to what I
24:36
Speaker 1: was saying regarding us UM creating our own licensees. I
24:39
Speaker 1: created the television division Carl Brown, which is my other
24:42
Speaker 1: part that he created the hotel division about about first time.
24:46
Speaker 1: So were the first hotel opening up in in Alabama.
24:50
Speaker 1: We have a few other deals that appending now. UM Houston. Um,
24:56
Speaker 1: I didn't know if I could sayst but Houston, Texas, Dallas, right, yeah, yeah,
24:59
Speaker 1: we're looking at UH. I can't um, I can't tell
25:03
Speaker 1: you exactly, but I know it's it's Houston. Cool, alright,
25:06
Speaker 1: let me let me, let me slow down, let me
25:08
Speaker 1: slow my row right right right, Alabama, right, So we
25:13
Speaker 1: have that, and then we also just started we we
25:16
Speaker 1: have internet radio. And then we also just started our
25:20
Speaker 1: um uh sell your phone um slash um business, so
25:25
Speaker 1: we have we basically get a deal with T Mobile
25:28
Speaker 1: and we're using that towers. So we have your own
25:30
Speaker 1: you have your own food service. We're opening a hundred stores,
25:34
Speaker 1: hundred stores in the first year. And UM, it's still
25:38
Speaker 1: pretty good. I'll tell you, we're j Ain't none of
25:42
Speaker 1: that on my paper. That's a whole conversation there, that's
25:46
Speaker 1: a that's a that's a whole Ain't none of that
25:48
Speaker 1: on my paper? Did you just talked about the hotel?
25:51
Speaker 1: You know, all that brand and all that My man,
25:55
Speaker 1: you I won't say you you you've learned you. But
26:01
Speaker 1: more importantly, the whole delegation of the team and taking
26:05
Speaker 1: responsibility in certain zones and building that out but still
26:07
Speaker 1: under the Foo Boo brand is what's most impressive to
26:10
Speaker 1: me about the relationships that y'all have created and still
26:13
Speaker 1: building on. But also, can you give me a quick
26:16
Speaker 1: uh I know, I'm I'm I'm pushing past my clock.
26:18
Speaker 1: Give me a quick feel about what this internet radio
26:21
Speaker 1: he is because that's big, that's that's um, that's my
26:24
Speaker 1: my partner, Keith parent Um. He he's actually started that
26:28
Speaker 1: stehead of that where he actually it's just basically hip
26:32
Speaker 1: hop and R and B from the from our era
26:34
Speaker 1: and that's what he basically focused on when it comes
26:37
Speaker 1: to uh um music and um you know he does.
26:42
Speaker 1: It's one of the things where where you know you
26:45
Speaker 1: you you you look at you look at what's out
26:48
Speaker 1: there and again. You know, we've done very well when
26:52
Speaker 1: it comes to clothing. You know, right now we're back
26:54
Speaker 1: in UM Urban Outfitters in uh foot Action and lids
26:59
Speaker 1: UM and of course schooler dot com you can get
27:01
Speaker 1: it as well. And we just did a deal with
27:04
Speaker 1: Tuma uh Speaking and pull that's coming out. You're busy, yeah, yeah, yeah,
27:10
Speaker 1: So so you know, it's it's it's a lot, you know.
27:14
Speaker 1: And you know, how do you advertige your advertise on radio?
27:17
Speaker 1: How do you advertige your advertize on television? Radio? And
27:21
Speaker 1: that's me? Now want you walk with my lane? That's
27:24
Speaker 1: my lane? Come on now, come on, don't don't do
27:27
Speaker 1: nothing with that that you should talk to me about.
27:29
Speaker 1: Just just whisper to me a little couple of things.
27:31
Speaker 1: I said, Okay, that's cool, that's cool because sponsors. That's
27:34
Speaker 1: my that's my m O right there. But man, it's
27:36
Speaker 1: beautiful talking to you. I want to ask you a favorite.
27:39
Speaker 1: Can I bring you back on the show? Oh please
27:41
Speaker 1: please do because because I really want to break down.
27:44
Speaker 1: You know, the book was great and talking about the whole,
27:47
Speaker 1: but all this new stuff is the forward thinking that
27:49
Speaker 1: we should talk about moving forward man, because you know,
27:52
Speaker 1: take some callers because there's some brilliant stuff that you're doing. Man,
27:55
Speaker 1: You and all your partners are the three other guys
27:58
Speaker 1: who founded and they teenaged two. Made a decision when
28:01
Speaker 1: you you took that insurance money at seven thousand, you kept,
28:04
Speaker 1: you kept a thousand, gave them six. So y'all get
28:07
Speaker 1: rolling with the food we brand that we wear and
28:09
Speaker 1: cherished and and they're proud of because you guys did it. Man,
28:13
Speaker 1: and y'all stayed together and I love it. Man, Thank
28:15
Speaker 1: you for coming on Money Making Conversation. Alexander Ban He's
28:18
Speaker 1: gonna be back. Y'all back with more money Making Conversation.
28:21
Speaker 1: My man right there told you how that is. And
28:23
Speaker 1: guess what he's still doing it. He will be back
28:25
Speaker 1: in the future on another episode of the the Money Making Conversation.
28:28
Speaker 1: Be right back. I'm your hopes with Sean mcconfin Hi,
28:34
Speaker 1: This is ra Sean McDonald. That's right, Rashawan McDonald. I'm
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Speaker 1: your host of money Making Conversations. Money Making Conversations to
28:40
Speaker 1: show where I interviewed industry decision makers, CEOs, small businesses
28:45
Speaker 1: and celebrities. They tell you about the secrets to success.
28:49
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28:52
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28:54
Speaker 1: even know that I'm a big fan of his. My
28:56
Speaker 1: next guest is a very just a very popular See
28:58
Speaker 1: it in Political Contributor and hopefully public recurrence and in
29:02
Speaker 1: prime time special The Messy Treat Here's a new book
29:05
Speaker 1: out Beyond the Messy Truth, How we come Apart, How
29:08
Speaker 1: we came apart, and how we can come together. Please
29:11
Speaker 1: welcome to Money Making Conversations. Van Jones, My man, I
29:17
Speaker 1: know I've had you on my radio show with Steve
29:19
Speaker 1: Harvey several times, and I appreciate you calling on my
29:23
Speaker 1: show because I'm big, big fan, big fan, and I
29:28
Speaker 1: read the book and let's let's uh. But before we
29:30
Speaker 1: get into the book, let's talk about you. You know,
29:34
Speaker 1: your growth as a as a brand, your growth as
29:38
Speaker 1: a person that because he kind of like, was similar
29:40
Speaker 1: when Steve and I was in New York in two
29:42
Speaker 1: thousand five and I thought I started seeing you more
29:45
Speaker 1: and more on TV, growing as a brand and creating
29:48
Speaker 1: a voice out there. What was the goal when? When?
29:51
Speaker 1: When when individuals were bringing you on the on TV
29:55
Speaker 1: asking your opinions, was there a goal behind it? Or
29:57
Speaker 1: you just taking advantage of the media opportunity. Well, you know,
30:01
Speaker 1: I've been a committed justice activist for twenty five years
30:06
Speaker 1: or more. I was born in rural West Tennessee. I
30:11
Speaker 1: grew up on the edge of a small town. I
30:13
Speaker 1: wound up going to Yale for law school, so that
30:16
Speaker 1: was a big leap. I was first wanted my family
30:18
Speaker 1: to go to a law school or any Ivy League institution.
30:21
Speaker 1: And when I got out in the early nineties and
30:24
Speaker 1: police brutality was off the hook, the prison bloom was
30:27
Speaker 1: going down. They were doubling the number of people behind
30:29
Speaker 1: bars and destroying our communities. And so I spent ten
30:32
Speaker 1: fifteen years on the front lines as an activist with
30:36
Speaker 1: a law degree, trying to do something about police brutality.
30:39
Speaker 1: We we wound up closing some youth prisons and um
30:43
Speaker 1: and and creating some job programs for young people, especially
30:46
Speaker 1: in the solar industry. And that's how I wounded up
30:49
Speaker 1: working for President Obama as his special advisor on green
30:53
Speaker 1: jobs and clean energy. And when the right wing came
30:57
Speaker 1: after me for having been such a left wing radical
30:59
Speaker 1: in my in my past, um, I wound up as
31:02
Speaker 1: many people do when they leave government. I wound up
31:05
Speaker 1: showing up on TV a little bit and wound up
31:08
Speaker 1: when they roll at CNN. Right, And with that, with
31:10
Speaker 1: that being said, you know your fantastic role and I've
31:15
Speaker 1: seen you. Now this to me, I'm asking some just
31:18
Speaker 1: some artist question, observational question. I got cautions. I'm gonna
31:21
Speaker 1: ask you about the book and things like that, because
31:23
Speaker 1: I've read the book. But I gotta ask observational question
31:25
Speaker 1: because I when I see an individual like it, because
31:27
Speaker 1: you're such a passionate guy. You are. You're one of
31:30
Speaker 1: these guys who wears your feelings on your sleeves. As
31:32
Speaker 1: they say, correct because I see it now. Is that
31:35
Speaker 1: good or bad? Well? Um, it depends. Um, I don't think.
31:41
Speaker 1: I think we live in an era where credibility used
31:46
Speaker 1: to be the most important thing, but now I think
31:48
Speaker 1: authenticity is the most important things. And you know, Hillary
31:52
Speaker 1: Clinton was very credible, but many people didn't think that
31:55
Speaker 1: she was authentic enough. Uh. Donald Trump completely not credible.
31:59
Speaker 1: But he's an authentic If he's gonna be a fool,
32:02
Speaker 1: he's an authentic fool and be consistent about it. So
32:06
Speaker 1: you know, I am. You know what you see with
32:09
Speaker 1: me is what you get. I love my people, I
32:12
Speaker 1: love all oppressed mistreated people. I'm not a Democratic Party hack.
32:16
Speaker 1: And the Democrats are wrong. I wanna call them wrong.
32:18
Speaker 1: And the Republicans get something right every now and again.
32:21
Speaker 1: I'll get them some credit too. But um, you know
32:24
Speaker 1: I can't. I can't be hoping. I'm not the interesting thing.
32:27
Speaker 1: When the when the idea of coming on my show,
32:29
Speaker 1: because my show is about its money making conversations about
32:32
Speaker 1: entrepreneurship about it, and it's not a political show, and
32:36
Speaker 1: and and and so I want to get that clear
32:38
Speaker 1: of my staff. But then when he sent me the book,
32:40
Speaker 1: I'm gonna read this quote that you had that let
32:43
Speaker 1: me know that I had to have you on the show.
32:45
Speaker 1: And it's a Nelson Mandela quote that's in his book,
32:48
Speaker 1: and it reads, I have fought against white domination, this
32:51
Speaker 1: is said by Nelson Mandela, and have fought against black domination.
32:55
Speaker 1: I have cherished the ideal of democratic in free society,
32:59
Speaker 1: and which all persons live together in harmony and will
33:02
Speaker 1: equal opportunities. It is an idea which I hope to
33:06
Speaker 1: live for and to achieve what the needs be. Isn't
33:09
Speaker 1: ideal for which I am prepared to die. That was
33:12
Speaker 1: stated by Nelson Mandela on trial facing possible execution April.
33:20
Speaker 1: That quote to me, let me know, this is a
33:22
Speaker 1: book not trying to blast one side, not trying to
33:25
Speaker 1: blast the other side, but trying to say, I'm gonna
33:28
Speaker 1: tell both sides of the story and then then here's
33:31
Speaker 1: a plan that we can come together. Is that correct? Well,
33:34
Speaker 1: you said it better than I can say it for myself.
33:36
Speaker 1: That really is Um. The purpose of my book is
33:39
Speaker 1: called Beyond the Messy Truth, how we came apart and
33:43
Speaker 1: how we come together. And you know it's tough love
33:46
Speaker 1: for both political parties because you know, even even though
33:49
Speaker 1: I'm I'm anti Trump, Um, you know, the Democrats have
33:53
Speaker 1: not been perfect by any stretch, and we have to
33:56
Speaker 1: really look in the mirror and across the board to
33:58
Speaker 1: figure out how we can do something. A whole third
34:00
Speaker 1: of the book is nothing but resources, um, you know, books, documentaries, organizations,
34:06
Speaker 1: you can join, left or right, Republican, Democrats, black, white,
34:09
Speaker 1: white or Latino, because we all just have to get
34:13
Speaker 1: me more involved. We need better conservative, we need better
34:15
Speaker 1: progressively need you know, we need everybody to to up
34:18
Speaker 1: level because the direction that we're headed in and so
34:21
Speaker 1: negative and so nasty, we gotta mess around not even
34:23
Speaker 1: have a country. And that's very true. And I think
34:25
Speaker 1: that's that's why I read that quote because you know,
34:28
Speaker 1: because some people can you know that, because because the
34:30
Speaker 1: media paints their pictures. You know, Foxes over here got
34:33
Speaker 1: this point of view, and everybody over there is supposed
34:36
Speaker 1: to be fake news and CNN and supposed to be
34:38
Speaker 1: anti Trump over CNN, they will not. But your book,
34:42
Speaker 1: I wanted to everybody who listened to the show shows
34:45
Speaker 1: also heard on our heart radio podcast, as well to
34:48
Speaker 1: mellions of other people. But I wanted to let everybody
34:51
Speaker 1: know that this quote is the first thing they caught
34:53
Speaker 1: my attention. And then when I went through the book,
34:56
Speaker 1: and when you did an example of the liberal family
34:59
Speaker 1: and you did an example of the conservative family, it
35:03
Speaker 1: was it really laid the picture about you kind of say,
35:07
Speaker 1: this is why we got in trouble. You know, this
35:09
Speaker 1: is this would lead to this problem if you if
35:11
Speaker 1: you upset by white Trump warn this election, let me
35:15
Speaker 1: tell you what happened. And that's what you laid the groundwork.
35:18
Speaker 1: You you kind of like, this is what happened, so
35:19
Speaker 1: before you get mad and act like it was by accident.
35:23
Speaker 1: The groundwork was laid, you know, when the housing crisis
35:26
Speaker 1: of two thousand and eight, you know the groundworker lad
35:28
Speaker 1: when you know, when Bill Clinton was in office and
35:31
Speaker 1: he was baby in Wall Street and then he was
35:33
Speaker 1: turning around creating these prison system where you just just
35:36
Speaker 1: putting African American man in jail. And that's really what
35:40
Speaker 1: you were talking about, you know, you talk about Ralf Nader,
35:42
Speaker 1: You talk about how the impact of Bernie Sanders was
35:45
Speaker 1: here was he another version of Ralf Nader way back then?
35:49
Speaker 1: And all this was just a really not so much
35:51
Speaker 1: a complex version, but a good read that really enlightened
35:55
Speaker 1: me but also confirmed a lot of things that I knew.
35:58
Speaker 1: But here and here and you write it in such
36:01
Speaker 1: great detail and what's such great passion and motion. I
36:04
Speaker 1: was uplifted by your book, my friend. Well, look, I
36:07
Speaker 1: appreciate that. And you know when when I wrote the book,
36:09
Speaker 1: and know it's called Beyond the Messy Truth um for
36:13
Speaker 1: a reason, you know, because the truth is messy if
36:15
Speaker 1: you really anytime somebody come and tell you a story
36:17
Speaker 1: and it's all they're perfect, and everything they did was correct,
36:22
Speaker 1: and there's other person, man, they just devil. You know,
36:26
Speaker 1: they're lying because you never you know, the truth is
36:30
Speaker 1: always messy. It's always well, you know, I could have
36:33
Speaker 1: done this, but she didn't have to do that. And
36:35
Speaker 1: you know, well, sure, you know, I wish I hadn't
36:36
Speaker 1: said this now, but I didn't, and we stuck with that.
36:38
Speaker 1: But but then then they did this. Now somebody's telling
36:41
Speaker 1: you the truth because it's messy. They're putting their mess
36:43
Speaker 1: on the table well as the other person's mass. And
36:46
Speaker 1: that's and and that's what I just feel like we
36:48
Speaker 1: need more of that. We know that they were messy.
36:50
Speaker 1: That's that's that's the neighborhood turn. You're just missy. You're
36:53
Speaker 1: just always up in somebody's face. Man, Messy, messy, messy missy.
36:57
Speaker 1: That's why I really, that's why I knew you from
36:59
Speaker 1: the South, you Jaxson Jackson, Tendnessee South, because we used
37:03
Speaker 1: to worry messy. But but when people see it out there,
37:06
Speaker 1: that that the urban spin. A messy is basically what
37:10
Speaker 1: you're talking about. This is the adjective. It's how people
37:13
Speaker 1: just take what they want to say and how they
37:15
Speaker 1: spend it and use it to their advantage. That's not
37:17
Speaker 1: what this book is about. This book is an information book,
37:20
Speaker 1: and I just want to sell my side because you know,
37:23
Speaker 1: I can let you come on the show and you
37:25
Speaker 1: can talk about at certain levels. But they also have
37:27
Speaker 1: got to know that I read the book and how
37:29
Speaker 1: it affected me. I think that's important. Man. Well look,
37:32
Speaker 1: I appreciate that, and I hope that people who are
37:35
Speaker 1: listening will, um, you know, we'll get this local order
37:39
Speaker 1: this book, will find this book beyond the messy truth,
37:42
Speaker 1: because there's so much upset. People are just upset. I
37:45
Speaker 1: know people, I think they get up in the morning,
37:47
Speaker 1: they look at their phone and then they looked at
37:50
Speaker 1: you know, well he you know, Donald trying to tweet
37:51
Speaker 1: at that, and then they spend the whole day just
37:54
Speaker 1: miserable and mad and they do. What they don't understand
37:57
Speaker 1: is that's part of his plan and his strategy to
38:00
Speaker 1: keep everybody distracted and divided. And the problem is not
38:04
Speaker 1: that we have you know, too many bad people doing
38:06
Speaker 1: bad things. We have too many good people, millions and millions,
38:10
Speaker 1: tens of millions more good people who just don't know
38:13
Speaker 1: what to do at all. And that's the real problem.
38:16
Speaker 1: That we're trying to empower people. And you know, I
38:18
Speaker 1: know this show is for people who are looking to
38:20
Speaker 1: make money. Part of the things that I wanted to
38:22
Speaker 1: say at the outset was that you need a stable
38:27
Speaker 1: political and legal environment to make money. Democracies can fail,
38:33
Speaker 1: and whenever you've seen a failed state or failed democracy,
38:36
Speaker 1: you nobody's making me money except maybe the arms dealers.
38:40
Speaker 1: But you know, what we have to do is to
38:43
Speaker 1: be whole people. We need to be you know, making money,
38:46
Speaker 1: We need to be making a difference as well. We
38:48
Speaker 1: need to be good consumers and good entrepreneurs. We also
38:50
Speaker 1: need to be good community members and citizens as well.
38:54
Speaker 1: And right now, I think that both sides are so
38:58
Speaker 1: comfortable just pointing out the other person's laws. You know,
39:02
Speaker 1: it's almost become a politics of accusation and no confession.
39:06
Speaker 1: It's all projectionist of what you did wrong, no reflection
39:10
Speaker 1: on what I could have done better. And that you
39:13
Speaker 1: can't even have a family that way, you can't even
39:14
Speaker 1: have a kindergarten class that way. And we're trying to
39:17
Speaker 1: have a whole country that way. It's not gonna work.
39:19
Speaker 1: And so and the business leaders honestly need to be
39:22
Speaker 1: the one stepping up to the plate even more, not
39:25
Speaker 1: necessarily running for office, but just you know, up leveling
39:28
Speaker 1: and saying, hey, listen, um you know America is about
39:32
Speaker 1: the business of business anything else, and y'all about to
39:35
Speaker 1: mess around here and make it where nobody can get
39:37
Speaker 1: ahead because you know it's just so negative and it's
39:40
Speaker 1: so nasty. Right now, I would be right back. We're
39:43
Speaker 1: gonna take a break hold on um man, because I
39:46
Speaker 1: want to talk about I've got arrested in shock. You know,
39:51
Speaker 1: when you know, no justice, no peace. I was in
39:54
Speaker 1: I was in l a at n eighteen two when
39:57
Speaker 1: they dropped off with Rotten the Key then had the
39:59
Speaker 1: profile the backt on you and your political views. Today,
40:02
Speaker 1: I want to talk about that Bright family, you know,
40:04
Speaker 1: that that liberal family, when you were allized that they
40:06
Speaker 1: suddenly had conservative values because He's what they just wanted
40:09
Speaker 1: the job, man, they wanted the job. We've been right
40:11
Speaker 1: back with Man seeing their contributor. I'll tell you I
40:14
Speaker 1: love this dude. I'm happy to spend six of time
40:16
Speaker 1: to call my show more with money making conversations. We'll
40:19
Speaker 1: be right back Sean McDonald. Hi, this for Sean McDonald.
40:27
Speaker 1: I'm back on the whole is my man. Van Jones,
40:29
Speaker 1: CNN contributor, His latest book, His latest book, is beyond
40:33
Speaker 1: the message troup, how we came apart, how we came together.
40:36
Speaker 1: It's been out since October tenth. I got him on
40:38
Speaker 1: the phone right now and we're gonna discuss that in
40:39
Speaker 1: this break. How are you doing? Van? Very good? Very good?
40:42
Speaker 1: But are you pretty good? I appreciate you. Now read
40:46
Speaker 1: this book and a good read. Learned a lot because
40:49
Speaker 1: you break it down in chapters. You you label, you
40:52
Speaker 1: label people, Liberals, you label conservatives. You said, this is
40:55
Speaker 1: what just what's wrong, and this is how we can
40:57
Speaker 1: fix it. Liberal hear me out. You go with this,
41:00
Speaker 1: this is who you are, you label them, and you said,
41:03
Speaker 1: this is how we can fix it. And then you
41:04
Speaker 1: talk about how we can come together, and you lay
41:07
Speaker 1: out different different informational ports that they can go, websites,
41:11
Speaker 1: all that stuff. They can go to get information, to
41:13
Speaker 1: get the truth. Because that's what this book is all about,
41:16
Speaker 1: is the truth correct absolutely um. And and you know
41:21
Speaker 1: it's some of these issues that we forget. Um. Look,
41:26
Speaker 1: there's some issues we just gotta fight over. I mean,
41:28
Speaker 1: we just there's not enough agreement. There's and and people
41:30
Speaker 1: are too passionate on either side. I'm never gonna uh,
41:34
Speaker 1: you know, abandoned the Muslims in America. You know, American
41:36
Speaker 1: Muslims and some of the best Americans that we have.
41:38
Speaker 1: I mean they got the lowest crime rate, of the
41:41
Speaker 1: lowest divorce rate, highest educational attainment for women in many cases,
41:46
Speaker 1: um entrepreneurship. I mean every Muslim might know got a job,
41:49
Speaker 1: of college degree or a business. I don't know why
41:52
Speaker 1: we're supposed to be mad at them. So I'm never
41:53
Speaker 1: gonna be gonna back off def any Muslims or Dreamers
41:56
Speaker 1: or l g B t Q or Black Lives Matter.
42:00
Speaker 1: Were just not gonna agree on that across these different divides.
42:02
Speaker 1: But there are but and so we have to fight.
42:04
Speaker 1: But you can't only fight and still have a country.
42:08
Speaker 1: Even if you're gonna fight from nine to noon, you
42:11
Speaker 1: should find something between, you know, noon and one to
42:13
Speaker 1: work on together to make something positive happen for the country. So,
42:18
Speaker 1: you know, you have this addiction crisis across the country,
42:21
Speaker 1: especially these opioid pain killers that people are just dropping
42:24
Speaker 1: like flies. And you know, my good friend Prince of
42:27
Speaker 1: the late rock Star he was killed um by his
42:30
Speaker 1: addiction to opioids. And yet coal miners are dying of
42:33
Speaker 1: the same thing. We should be able to come together
42:35
Speaker 1: behind stuff like that, but corporations are selling it and
42:39
Speaker 1: it's legal. Yeah. Well, and and that's the thing. We
42:42
Speaker 1: have some ideas in the book though, that would come
42:45
Speaker 1: up with the safer alternatives to help people get off
42:48
Speaker 1: that stuff, um and and and not do the detox
42:51
Speaker 1: and die thing, because a lot of people they do
42:54
Speaker 1: the detox thing, but there's no supportive drugs, you know,
42:58
Speaker 1: to help them stay off and get off in a
43:00
Speaker 1: safe way, and they wind up relapsing and then they
43:03
Speaker 1: overdose because that old dose is too high form. Now,
43:05
Speaker 1: these are type of things just real seem I'm dealing
43:08
Speaker 1: with real stuff. I'm not dealing with tweets. I'm dealing
43:10
Speaker 1: with real life issues that people need to be focused on. You.
43:15
Speaker 1: We've got too many funerals in America for dumb reasons,
43:18
Speaker 1: and we need to be able to no matter how mad.
43:20
Speaker 1: I am um at Donald Trump, and I'm mad at
43:23
Speaker 1: him every day, and you get mad, you get mad mad,
43:26
Speaker 1: I get mad. I get mad. But at the same time,
43:28
Speaker 1: you know Donald Trump's wanted. His closest advisors is Newt
43:31
Speaker 1: Grig And you you see in the book I talked
43:33
Speaker 1: about how I work with newt on opioids. I work
43:36
Speaker 1: with Newt on UM the criminal justice reform, you know,
43:40
Speaker 1: and you know it used to be the case that
43:43
Speaker 1: you could. You know, you fight where you don't agree,
43:45
Speaker 1: and you work together where you do agree. Now we
43:48
Speaker 1: fight where we don't agree and we won't even speak,
43:50
Speaker 1: So we can't work together where we do agree. And
43:54
Speaker 1: that's that's and that really is the problem. So I
43:56
Speaker 1: want to get a quicker feedback because I thought this
43:58
Speaker 1: is important to your book. If I five years ago,
44:01
Speaker 1: you know the Rode Keen video, because that had a
44:02
Speaker 1: profound effect, and that also led to you doing a
44:05
Speaker 1: peaceful march at Dolores Park and and then you was
44:08
Speaker 1: why am I being arrested this peaceful so and they
44:11
Speaker 1: kind of like set the stage a little bit. This
44:13
Speaker 1: is a lot of different I was took a lot
44:15
Speaker 1: of different things in life to make who you are today.
44:17
Speaker 1: But that was a profound moment in the book, and
44:19
Speaker 1: it was a relatable moment for me because I was
44:21
Speaker 1: living in l A at the time and I was
44:23
Speaker 1: in the heart of it. I saw it live, I
44:25
Speaker 1: drove around it, I drove through the community's black home
44:29
Speaker 1: signs was popping up on all these business so they
44:31
Speaker 1: wouldn't be impacted by any damage. And it was really crazy,
44:34
Speaker 1: and but you were not there, so I just wanted
44:37
Speaker 1: to see how it affected you. And I was right
44:39
Speaker 1: in this to say the juncle I was in the
44:41
Speaker 1: war zone. Well, yeah, I was in northern California, UM
44:45
Speaker 1: that spring of UM and you know, UM, I was
44:51
Speaker 1: a young, idealistic law student and I was working for
44:54
Speaker 1: a civil rights organization and tell of the you know
44:57
Speaker 1: they were Even though you were in the middle of
44:59
Speaker 1: everything in that lay there were rallies and protests all
45:02
Speaker 1: across the country, maybe all around the world behind Rodney King,
45:05
Speaker 1: because you know, you have unarmed black man being beaten
45:09
Speaker 1: in videotape, will being beaten by the cops in videotape.
45:12
Speaker 1: Back then, videotape was hard to come by. It wasn't
45:15
Speaker 1: right now everybody got a phone. I mean you know
45:18
Speaker 1: that it was. It had never been captured before what
45:20
Speaker 1: we were going through. And we just knew these cops
45:22
Speaker 1: were gonna go to jail, and none of them went
45:24
Speaker 1: to jail. So people to the streets. And I was
45:27
Speaker 1: in the Bay Area and had been asked by my
45:31
Speaker 1: boss to go and just do legal observation and make
45:34
Speaker 1: sure the cops were being the rules, and nothing got
45:36
Speaker 1: in and they swept everybody up, including my little you know,
45:40
Speaker 1: educated I thought I was above it all. No justice,
45:43
Speaker 1: no piece, no justice, no piece exactly. And then I
45:47
Speaker 1: wasn't even chet and I was just walking alongside with
45:49
Speaker 1: my little clip forward, trying to take notes. And then
45:52
Speaker 1: I looked around. I said, Jesus, then you know my
45:54
Speaker 1: my uh communities, free speech rights of being trampled on.
45:58
Speaker 1: Nobody do anything violent, um in in you know that march,
46:03
Speaker 1: and and it just underscored to me the need to
46:06
Speaker 1: work on criminal justice and policing issues. And that's really
46:09
Speaker 1: what I I focused on, and and I learned so
46:12
Speaker 1: much doing that, because when you're working on policing issues
46:15
Speaker 1: and criminal justice, you really have to work at the
46:17
Speaker 1: grassroots level. Most top level politicians are not going to
46:20
Speaker 1: deal with you. And so you're gonna be dealing with
46:22
Speaker 1: grandmama's and preachers and and youth and other folks until
46:26
Speaker 1: you get some victories going and and and and I'll
46:30
Speaker 1: never forget what it's like when you're fighting the whole
46:34
Speaker 1: system with just you know, a few allies. Then to
46:38
Speaker 1: be able to win sometimes and just show you you
46:41
Speaker 1: the power of the people. Man, I want to thank
46:43
Speaker 1: you for calling my show. I hope it was a
46:45
Speaker 1: good time, good ride for Yeah, it was. I just
46:48
Speaker 1: want to ask everybody, you know, beyond the Messy Truth,
46:50
Speaker 1: that's the name of my book. Uh, you know, get
46:53
Speaker 1: the book. It's gonna it's I promise you, however you're feeling,
46:56
Speaker 1: you get done with the book, you're gonna feel better
46:58
Speaker 1: and join the love Army, Love Army out of org
47:00
Speaker 1: and let's let let's let's try to get us to
47:03
Speaker 1: a better place. I'm not gonna let this orange weirdo
47:05
Speaker 1: still on my joy. We're gonna keep moving. But man,
47:08
Speaker 1: I love you, I watch you. Your passion is what
47:11
Speaker 1: would drive to me to continue to be a fan
47:14
Speaker 1: of yours. Keep doing what you're doing, don't stop, and
47:16
Speaker 1: I'm gonna put post just on our Money Making Conversations
47:19
Speaker 1: Facebook page and our Twitter account, and we're gonna keep
47:22
Speaker 1: building and selling the brand of Van Jones. Okay, thank
47:24
Speaker 1: you very much. Appreciation. Please welcome to I want to say,
47:29
Speaker 1: attorney not called small entrepreneur. Please welcome to show. Attorney
47:33
Speaker 1: Benjamin Crump, Thank you so much to stop for having me,
47:38
Speaker 1: and we talked at least twice a week, if not more.
47:42
Speaker 1: We talked yesterday in fact, and it's because I just
47:46
Speaker 1: want to talk about you know, we're gonna be on
47:48
Speaker 1: for two breaks here, Attorney Crop, and I just want
47:51
Speaker 1: to talk about the journey because I've watched you grow
47:54
Speaker 1: and you know, you're just a solid attorney in the
47:58
Speaker 1: itally has their officers in Florida just doing the right
48:01
Speaker 1: things and uh about trying to impact people's lives. And
48:05
Speaker 1: then the trayvon Mardern thing happened, and that just thrust
48:09
Speaker 1: you out into the forefront of America. It was a
48:13
Speaker 1: very controversial case, a case that uh that that covered
48:16
Speaker 1: a lot of had a lot of media attention. How
48:19
Speaker 1: did it change your life? Certainly, I was trying to
48:24
Speaker 1: do what I believe was my life's mission and fight
48:27
Speaker 1: for the civil rights and the due process of people
48:33
Speaker 1: for my community, people look like me, and for people
48:37
Speaker 1: who were Americans. It didn't matter whether you're a black
48:40
Speaker 1: and white Hispanic. You just wanted to try to use
48:43
Speaker 1: the blessings and the education that God gave you with
48:47
Speaker 1: this law degree to try to do good. And so
48:51
Speaker 1: that's whether we were doing Third good. Marsha was my
48:54
Speaker 1: personal hero, and I tried to patter my career after
48:58
Speaker 1: Justice Marshall and uh and doing so, I has got
49:04
Speaker 1: quite successful at it and people are Rashaan started calling
49:08
Speaker 1: me referring cases to me, especially in the matters of
49:12
Speaker 1: civil rights with the killers of unarmed people of coloring.
49:17
Speaker 1: That was the call I got with Traybon Benjamin Martin
49:20
Speaker 1: after February twenty six, two thousand twelve, when he was
49:23
Speaker 1: killed by a neighborhood watched volunteer with a nine millar
49:27
Speaker 1: meter gun as he walked home with a can of
49:32
Speaker 1: tea and a bag of skittles. And from there it
49:37
Speaker 1: became the number one news story in the world and
49:40
Speaker 1: two thousand twelve, which was quite significant Rashon, because I
49:44
Speaker 1: know you are used to hip and uh get exposure
49:49
Speaker 1: for individuals and matters, And it was fascinating to me
49:53
Speaker 1: about tray Bon because when I first started it, we
49:56
Speaker 1: couldn't get anybody to cover it. And then it became yeah,
50:00
Speaker 1: nobody cared about a little black boy getting killed. Uh,
50:04
Speaker 1: it was almost like a cliche. But once we were
50:07
Speaker 1: able to communicate to society that Trademond Martin life matter.
50:13
Speaker 1: Now why matter. It was really astonishing. I give a
50:16
Speaker 1: lot of credit to God, uh, because people started caring
50:21
Speaker 1: about his life and for the first time ever you
50:23
Speaker 1: had the depth of a little black boy then covered
50:28
Speaker 1: on the every making magazine in America, Time Magazine, news Week,
50:33
Speaker 1: Uh uh uh Ebony Jet Essence. I mean, it was everywhere.
50:40
Speaker 1: And so I think that was the thing that at
50:43
Speaker 1: least introduced me to many Americans who did not note
50:47
Speaker 1: who Benjamin Crump was. You know, I'm gonna thinking impactful
50:51
Speaker 1: that a whole scenario was involving surrounding Traymond Martin because
50:56
Speaker 1: Hoodies was a big impactful moment because he's wearing a
50:59
Speaker 1: hoodie and in the African American team wearing the hoodie
51:02
Speaker 1: is they are they automatically a suspect. And at the time,
51:05
Speaker 1: Steve and I we had the Neighborhood Awards now, but
51:08
Speaker 1: it was called the Hoodie Awards, and I actually had
51:11
Speaker 1: to change the name because of the fact that people
51:15
Speaker 1: thought it was a tribute show to Trayvon Martin situation.
51:19
Speaker 1: And uh, and not just because you know, like say
51:21
Speaker 1: just just you know, we weren't we was in transition anyway,
51:24
Speaker 1: but it did just kind of like accelerated the change
51:27
Speaker 1: of from because people are always trying to figure out
51:29
Speaker 1: what hoodie? What does what does that mean? And then
51:32
Speaker 1: we went on and said because we're just short for
51:34
Speaker 1: neighborhood awards and so. But because of the situation with
51:38
Speaker 1: Trayvon Martin and the hoodies, it was so many people
51:41
Speaker 1: inundating us with emails and and texts and the phone
51:44
Speaker 1: calls asking was this event in Vegas? Was this a
51:47
Speaker 1: tribute to the UH to the Trayvon Martin situation? So
51:52
Speaker 1: I just know how big it became and still resonents
51:54
Speaker 1: to resonate today, and probably was the reason that Black
51:58
Speaker 1: Lives Mark Matters really was aunched, behind the galvanized, behind
52:03
Speaker 1: the actions that came about that. You know, I just
52:05
Speaker 1: wanted to bring that out front because I don't want
52:08
Speaker 1: anybody to think this is a show we're talking about
52:10
Speaker 1: civil rights concerns about It's about the changes in your
52:13
Speaker 1: life that are now offering you opportunities to expand your brand.
52:18
Speaker 1: And your brand is very recognizable because I know I'm
52:21
Speaker 1: out in public with you all the time. That's crazy,
52:25
Speaker 1: It's really, it's really it's good crazy though, because you're
52:27
Speaker 1: just so people come up to you in such a humble,
52:30
Speaker 1: respectful manner, and they put a tremendous burden on you,
52:34
Speaker 1: a responsibility. Correct absolutely, And I think this because all
52:39
Speaker 1: of us have children, and we love our children, and
52:43
Speaker 1: we care about our children. So when they see people
52:46
Speaker 1: out there, uh standing up for their children, speaking up
52:49
Speaker 1: for their children, and fighting for their children in the
52:51
Speaker 1: court of law and in the court of public opinion,
52:54
Speaker 1: they recognize that Traypon could have been their child too.
52:58
Speaker 1: And I just want to die grist for a second
53:00
Speaker 1: to say to you, Steve, but you I'll reshied what
53:04
Speaker 1: you and Steve did, what the neighborhood was and still inspirational, man,
53:08
Speaker 1: I mean that whole idea. Uh, let's recognize people in
53:12
Speaker 1: the neighborhood for doing good that don't often happen. Just
53:16
Speaker 1: believe you be reshin that that wasn't lost on any
53:19
Speaker 1: of us, that great division that you had. Thank you.
53:22
Speaker 1: I appreciate that and my and and don't believe uh
53:26
Speaker 1: it's dead in the water, Okay, I know, because I
53:31
Speaker 1: get I get, I get approached by too many people.
53:33
Speaker 1: It's in my life is going in a positive direction.
53:35
Speaker 1: Steve's life is going in a positive direction. And I
53:38
Speaker 1: feel that one has allowed each each side to grow
53:42
Speaker 1: in order to come back together to do something great
53:45
Speaker 1: together again. I feel really comfortable when I say that,
53:48
Speaker 1: and I feel comfortable when I say this about the
53:50
Speaker 1: fact that you know you're about to do something real big.
53:53
Speaker 1: It's one of the reasons we have you on the
53:55
Speaker 1: show today. The big prompt National Law Firm that's up
54:00
Speaker 1: suicide we're gonna talk about. Just give us a short
54:02
Speaker 1: scenario what it is, and we come back from break,
54:04
Speaker 1: we're gonna talk in detail about the Being Crump Law Firm.
54:07
Speaker 1: And while you got involved at that magnitude, absolutely uh.
54:11
Speaker 1: Like I said, Thurgood Marshall was my personal hero and
54:13
Speaker 1: the movie is coming out. I have a small cameo
54:16
Speaker 1: and I'm three up to death to being a movie
54:18
Speaker 1: about my hero. But Dirgood Marshall went all over America
54:22
Speaker 1: trying to use his talents as as legal skills to
54:25
Speaker 1: try to make the most impact he could, not just
54:29
Speaker 1: for the individuals affected by the injustices, but on the
54:32
Speaker 1: conscious of America. So what we're doing is trying to
54:35
Speaker 1: impact the conscious of America. And with this Being Crump
54:39
Speaker 1: Law Firm, using the brand that you have established, I
54:42
Speaker 1: think I'll be able to serve more people on a
54:45
Speaker 1: greater scale. And that's what it's really about, trying to
54:48
Speaker 1: do as much as you can for as many people
54:50
Speaker 1: as you can and make a difference. And now that
54:53
Speaker 1: I have a business apparatus to the Being Crump Law Firm,
54:57
Speaker 1: I think I can do it even more productively. Great.
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Speaker 1: When we come back, we're gonna talk about the different
55:03
Speaker 1: areas of practice that the ben Crop Law Firm will cover. Again.
55:08
Speaker 1: Welcome to money making Conversations on the phone. Right now
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Speaker 1: is the incredible civil rights attorney, businessman, uh, host personality UH.
55:17
Speaker 1: A guy who's changing the world. Every time I see him,
55:20
Speaker 1: he's doing something spectacular. And when I on this next break,
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Speaker 1: you're gonna hear about movies. You can hear by TV shows,
55:27
Speaker 1: you can hear by books, all under the brand of
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Speaker 1: Attorney Benjamin crowill be right back with more money making conversations.
55:34
Speaker 1: We're doing big things on this show, y'all because we've
55:36
Speaker 1: got big time guests like Attorney Benjamin Crop. We'll be
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Speaker 1: right back. Hi, We're Sean McDonald back from more money
55:46
Speaker 1: making Conversations on the phone. I have the incredible, the
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Speaker 1: talented and motivating attorney Benagman Crop, how are you doing, Benjamin,
55:53
Speaker 1: I'm doing the brother Sean McDonald, my advisors who always
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Speaker 1: make myerod. Thank you, my friend. We were talking about
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Speaker 1: your the national law firm that you're launching when we
56:03
Speaker 1: say it is launching this month, Yes, sir, okay, they
56:06
Speaker 1: will be uh here will hear so much about the
56:10
Speaker 1: brand and there you know Ben Crump Law on radio, television,
56:16
Speaker 1: build boars social It's gonna let everybody know that they
56:21
Speaker 1: can get access to the band Crump Law Firm if
56:23
Speaker 1: they're facing an injustice. Now, and these injustice come in
56:27
Speaker 1: different areas of practice. Now, you have civil rights, which
56:29
Speaker 1: we've already talked about, but then you have employment law, medical,
56:33
Speaker 1: mail practice, workmence, compensation and class actions and more. Can
56:38
Speaker 1: you break down exactly when you say, like, uh, employment law, medical,
56:42
Speaker 1: what exactly does that mean? When somebody's in trouble, they
56:45
Speaker 1: can call your firm. It'll be an eight hundred number
56:48
Speaker 1: and the website and they can get access to the
56:51
Speaker 1: lawyers who respond back to them immediately. Absolutely, they can
56:55
Speaker 1: reach uh us at eight five eight hundred eight five
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Speaker 1: nine nine nine nine uh any time day of night,
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Speaker 1: twenty four hours a day. And when we talk about
57:06
Speaker 1: employment law, if I could just talk about some of
57:08
Speaker 1: these areas um employment law. You know, in America, we
57:13
Speaker 1: have a right not to have to face a hostile
57:16
Speaker 1: work environment. So if you feel that you have been
57:20
Speaker 1: subjected to racial discrimination, UH, setual harassment, UH, age discrimination, UH,
57:29
Speaker 1: if you have been made to work over time and
57:32
Speaker 1: not be fairly compensated all these variety of things that
57:37
Speaker 1: have uh caused you a hostile work environment, then the
57:42
Speaker 1: bend From Law firm is ready to fight for you
57:45
Speaker 1: to get justice in those matters. Because technology is kind
57:49
Speaker 1: of like blurred the work our schedule because you can
57:53
Speaker 1: text people, you can email people, and and then sometimes
57:57
Speaker 1: employees don't know when to respond on off hours or
58:01
Speaker 1: should they respond off hours. And that's what you're talking
58:04
Speaker 1: about when you said the blurred lines are put you
58:07
Speaker 1: in a position over are you compensated for that? Does that?
58:11
Speaker 1: Is that part of your job description that if you
58:13
Speaker 1: got a text or email on the Saturday or Sunday,
58:16
Speaker 1: all you're supposed to respond to that. But that's what
58:18
Speaker 1: you're talking about, right exactly? And will you be played
58:22
Speaker 1: time and a half if it's over your four hour
58:25
Speaker 1: work period? And so all these things come up, the
58:28
Speaker 1: fact that women are paying paid almost fifty percent less
58:32
Speaker 1: than men for doing the same exact job as men,
58:35
Speaker 1: the fact that you don't have diversity at the executive
58:41
Speaker 1: levels of companies that serve majority minority communities, and the
58:47
Speaker 1: fact that there has been a class selling place on men,
58:51
Speaker 1: women and minority. So these are the things we're looking
58:53
Speaker 1: at because, as Martin Luther King said, economics, where's the
58:57
Speaker 1: founder frontier of civil rights? And that's very important that
59:02
Speaker 1: we say that because of the fact that your law firm,
59:05
Speaker 1: and I really want to say that because I want
59:06
Speaker 1: to anybody think that your law firm is just about
59:09
Speaker 1: civil right cases. Your your law firm is engaging itself.
59:12
Speaker 1: And like I said in the employment law, medical malpractice,
59:15
Speaker 1: Workman conversation, class fact class actions, which are very important
59:20
Speaker 1: and it's a very competitive field. And the reason I
59:22
Speaker 1: wanted to bring you on the phone to talk on
59:24
Speaker 1: my show to talk about it is because everybody got
59:27
Speaker 1: a commercial. It seems everybody got a TV show or
59:29
Speaker 1: TV show or TV commercial about lawsuits. They got eight
59:33
Speaker 1: hundred numbers with just blank screens just pop up, talk
59:36
Speaker 1: about call this number if you've been affected by some
59:40
Speaker 1: type of Malcolm power, or been affected by some type
59:43
Speaker 1: of some type of medicine that you were supposed to take.
59:46
Speaker 1: All this is just popping up. Does this by calling
59:48
Speaker 1: your number bye bye bye, putting your face on it,
59:51
Speaker 1: It gives them a sense of a value to the
59:54
Speaker 1: person that they're calling for help, right certainly, And that's
59:58
Speaker 1: I've been part of the money making conversation that I
1:00:01
Speaker 1: so often have a few. It is about brandon a
1:00:04
Speaker 1: brand that they feel, they know, they feel they can
1:00:07
Speaker 1: trust in their darkest hour, somebody who they believe will
1:00:11
Speaker 1: fight for them and won't abandon them in any way
1:00:15
Speaker 1: or uh not protect their interests completely. And so that's
1:00:19
Speaker 1: when they see the being crump long banner they're getting
1:00:23
Speaker 1: there being crump the same way I fought for so
1:00:27
Speaker 1: many high profile cases, whether it's Traybon Martin, whether it's
1:00:31
Speaker 1: Michael Brown and Ferguson, whether it's the thirteen black women
1:00:35
Speaker 1: who were raped in Oklahoma by the police officer, the
1:00:39
Speaker 1: same way they saw me be dogmatic in those cases.
1:00:43
Speaker 1: We're gonna be dogmatic. We have a loved one who
1:00:46
Speaker 1: goes to the hospital and for whatever reason, they are
1:00:50
Speaker 1: catastrophically made worse or even die. You know, we're there
1:00:56
Speaker 1: for mama, We're there for your wife, your husband, and
1:01:00
Speaker 1: those tragic circumstances. Also, I want to point out which
1:01:04
Speaker 1: is happening more and more with the advent of all
1:01:07
Speaker 1: these goods uh rashaan nightclub shootings, apartment shootings, right, whether
1:01:13
Speaker 1: you have negligent security where you felt faith, you actually
1:01:17
Speaker 1: paid extra money for your apartment complex to have security,
1:01:21
Speaker 1: and then for whatever reasons, the security was not adequate
1:01:25
Speaker 1: and you were injured. We're looking at all these type
1:01:28
Speaker 1: of things because it is not just a civil rights matter,
1:01:32
Speaker 1: but it's also about protection of the law and making
1:01:35
Speaker 1: sure that you have a right to have your civil
1:01:38
Speaker 1: roles redressed. You know what I like about the fact
1:01:41
Speaker 1: that your brain of of being crumped, the brain the
1:01:45
Speaker 1: the because because I see, like I tell you, I
1:01:47
Speaker 1: see people walk up to you on a regular basis.
1:01:49
Speaker 1: We can be at the McDonald I've been with him
1:01:51
Speaker 1: at McDonald's, I've been at the airport, we're doing the
1:01:55
Speaker 1: car rental, we've been sitting at a hotel lobby, and
1:01:58
Speaker 1: they all come up with the same a glowing a
1:02:01
Speaker 1: feeling of trust, the glowing feeling that we're so thankful
1:02:05
Speaker 1: that you have our voice, that you are trying to
1:02:08
Speaker 1: give us a back. And that's what I want people
1:02:10
Speaker 1: to understand that just what he's building with the Being
1:02:13
Speaker 1: Crump Law Firm is an opportunity to you not to
1:02:16
Speaker 1: be afraid. Don't be afraid that nobody's gonna listen to you,
1:02:20
Speaker 1: don't be afraid that you can't have your voice heard.
1:02:23
Speaker 1: That's what the Being Crump Law Firm is all about,
1:02:26
Speaker 1: and that's what that that's I think that's really key
1:02:28
Speaker 1: because so many people who are undeserved, they have no voice,
1:02:33
Speaker 1: are fearful to come out and speak, and so they
1:02:36
Speaker 1: remain a victim abound by their disservice. Correct absolutely, and
1:02:44
Speaker 1: you see it right on the nail when you say
1:02:47
Speaker 1: oftentimes people don't do anything because they see nobody is
1:02:51
Speaker 1: gonna stand with them, nobody's gonna fight for him. And
1:02:54
Speaker 1: especially talking about brands, what you did, incredibly is help
1:02:59
Speaker 1: law to my brand into the television space with evidence
1:03:04
Speaker 1: of innocence and the fact that those indivdutions were wrongfully
1:03:08
Speaker 1: incarcerated was completely innocent and they felt nobody would stand
1:03:12
Speaker 1: with them. So we're highlighting all these injustices because neutrality
1:03:18
Speaker 1: in the face of injustice is injustice. So when a
1:03:21
Speaker 1: bad thing happens to you, don't be afraid. I don't
1:03:25
Speaker 1: care what, Shan. It's just something as simple as a
1:03:29
Speaker 1: worker's compensation claimed where you slipped and fell and you
1:03:34
Speaker 1: hurt your hip or you had to have surgery on
1:03:36
Speaker 1: your back as a result of it, and you now
1:03:39
Speaker 1: feel fear for a retribution for you going to get
1:03:42
Speaker 1: the proper help that you need from your employers. That's
1:03:45
Speaker 1: what being crump laws therefore as to help fight those
1:03:48
Speaker 1: battles with you so you're not alone. Wow, that's what
1:03:52
Speaker 1: I'm talking about. Okay, let's let's switch gears here a
1:03:54
Speaker 1: little bit coming out this Friday. Coming out this Friday,
1:04:00
Speaker 1: there's a movie called Marshall starting Chadsman Bosman. That's the
1:04:05
Speaker 1: man if you if you watch Uh, there's a Captain
1:04:08
Speaker 1: American movie. He played the back Black Panther and if
1:04:12
Speaker 1: you watch the movie forty two, he started Jackie Robinson.
1:04:15
Speaker 1: So you'll be making a cameo of parents to my understanding,
1:04:18
Speaker 1: my friend in this movie that's coming out this Friday,
1:04:21
Speaker 1: called Marshall. Correct. Absolutely, it's an incredible movie, Shan, And
1:04:27
Speaker 1: I'm not just saying that because I'm in it, and
1:04:29
Speaker 1: I'm not just saying that the consience about my personal heroe,
1:04:33
Speaker 1: Third Good Marsha and introducing him to a new generation
1:04:37
Speaker 1: of Americans, but also re igniting the next generation of
1:04:43
Speaker 1: lawyers who care about people, social justice engineers. And in
1:04:48
Speaker 1: this movie, Uh Chad with Bosman, there's an incredible job
1:04:52
Speaker 1: as Good Marshall. You're a good friend. Regen husbland Man
1:04:56
Speaker 1: is the director. Here is a master for job. It's
1:05:00
Speaker 1: already getting a lot of buzz about Academy of Consideration
1:05:04
Speaker 1: and everybody in America who's listening to the Rashaan McDonald
1:05:09
Speaker 1: running making conversation should go out on this weekend and
1:05:14
Speaker 1: see this movie is take the whole family. I mean,
1:05:18
Speaker 1: it's a really good movie that makes Third Good Marshall
1:05:22
Speaker 1: very not only relevant but relatable. You get to see
1:05:26
Speaker 1: this person who's gonna really mark a lot of young
1:05:29
Speaker 1: people that Thurgan Marsha was a man. I know, he
1:05:32
Speaker 1: became this iconic figure becoming the first Black Supreme Court
1:05:36
Speaker 1: justice and Oregon landmark cases like Brown versus Board of Education,
1:05:42
Speaker 1: but at his core he was a lot like you
1:05:44
Speaker 1: and I Rishain just a brother who was trying to
1:05:47
Speaker 1: do good and really trying to use the talents and
1:05:51
Speaker 1: the blessings that God gave him to make the biggest
1:05:54
Speaker 1: impact possible. And so when you go see this movie,
1:05:57
Speaker 1: it's an all star cast. It got Kate Hudson, and
1:06:00
Speaker 1: got Josh Gad who played Off and Frozen and was
1:06:04
Speaker 1: also in the Kevin Hart moving Weaving wedding ringers, who
1:06:08
Speaker 1: does a really incredible job. You got Sterling Kay Brown
1:06:12
Speaker 1: who just won his second Emmy Award, this one for
1:06:15
Speaker 1: disssess before he wanted for his portrayal of Christopher Darden
1:06:19
Speaker 1: and people versus O J. I mean it's a stellar cat.
1:06:24
Speaker 1: They got Attorney Benjamin Crow and the spending jokes this
1:06:31
Speaker 1: here when we come on the screen, myself and I
1:06:35
Speaker 1: turn my Martin parents are also any the crowd just
1:06:39
Speaker 1: erupts an applause, and so Redgen and that. But we
1:06:44
Speaker 1: everybody's there's some kind of way. Every time you'll come
1:06:47
Speaker 1: on the screen, everybody start clapping. We've been on the
1:06:49
Speaker 1: screen the whole time, nobody capting for us. That's awesome.
1:06:53
Speaker 1: Now I know we're running out of time, but I
1:06:55
Speaker 1: gotta bring up this next big project. This coming up
1:06:58
Speaker 1: it's called Who Shot Tupac? You're the host of it
1:07:02
Speaker 1: is on an E. It's a six part series and
1:07:05
Speaker 1: that's coming out in November. Correct, Ye, remember twenty one
1:07:09
Speaker 1: and for six weeks every Tuesday night it's uh ribbon
1:07:15
Speaker 1: in uh as said, it's a ribbon in documentary look
1:07:20
Speaker 1: into not only what happened and who killed Tupac, but
1:07:24
Speaker 1: also it talks about due process and it's a real
1:07:27
Speaker 1: education and we have some explosive bombs, share information that
1:07:33
Speaker 1: has never been seen before. We really feel we're giving
1:07:37
Speaker 1: Tuproctu Cort the investigation the due process that eluded him
1:07:41
Speaker 1: twenty years ago. So that's the twenty one, that's the Tuesday.
1:07:45
Speaker 1: So we have you back on the show on the
1:07:47
Speaker 1: twenty at that Monday to talk about it. Just really
1:07:49
Speaker 1: give that big final push to make sure everybody know
1:07:53
Speaker 1: that this is something that's that's important and it may
1:07:55
Speaker 1: become an ongoing documentary type style series for you on end. Correct. Absolutely, Uh,
1:08:02
Speaker 1: that's why we gotta have everybody watching. Everybody chime in,
1:08:05
Speaker 1: because people are telling our stories more and they want people,
1:08:09
Speaker 1: like Rashane said, who they think are relatable, people who
1:08:14
Speaker 1: they trust telling those stories and that's where the brand
1:08:18
Speaker 1: is all about, right absolutely, And that's why I think
1:08:21
Speaker 1: it's that's why I know it's important that when I
1:08:23
Speaker 1: bring you on the show, I just wanted everybody to know.
1:08:25
Speaker 1: And it's just so that you know in this in
1:08:28
Speaker 1: the world we live in today, you know, diversity and
1:08:31
Speaker 1: and and and taking advantage of the of the lanes
1:08:34
Speaker 1: of opportunity and still maintaining your dignity in your craft.
1:08:37
Speaker 1: That's what I love about you. You know, the evidence
1:08:40
Speaker 1: of innocence that was right in your lane. You know,
1:08:42
Speaker 1: making an appearance in the third Good Marshall movie, that's
1:08:45
Speaker 1: right in your lane. Trying to pursue the truth in
1:08:48
Speaker 1: the Tupac murder, that's right in your lane. And then
1:08:51
Speaker 1: in January, I mean in February, you're gonna have your
1:08:53
Speaker 1: first book coming out. But we're gonna talk about there
1:08:55
Speaker 1: on the next show because I don't want I want
1:08:57
Speaker 1: everybody understand that this month that you are launching the
1:09:01
Speaker 1: big Crump Law firm. UH called this young man. I
1:09:05
Speaker 1: believe in him. I trust him. We talked two or
1:09:07
Speaker 1: three times a week, just talk about life. He was
1:09:10
Speaker 1: he was involved in the hurricane out the delivering supplies
1:09:13
Speaker 1: with the with the with the police officers down there
1:09:16
Speaker 1: because it's from Tallahassee. So he was impacted in Florida
1:09:19
Speaker 1: personally by that past hurricane. So he never does not
1:09:22
Speaker 1: He always has time to help, either in the courtroom
1:09:26
Speaker 1: or in the community. Big crump, my guess is on
1:09:32
Speaker 1: the line. I got to start talking and interviewing him.
1:09:36
Speaker 1: First of all. All right, it was in New York
1:09:38
Speaker 1: City at the Circling Sisters Expo hosted by w BLS
1:09:41
Speaker 1: every year, just a jam pack organization for the horn
1:09:45
Speaker 1: of women. And now he was there. I didn't even
1:09:48
Speaker 1: know he was there. Walked by. Of course, every time
1:09:51
Speaker 1: you walk by him, he talking to somebody, and he
1:09:53
Speaker 1: always has a crowd of people around him. I tapped
1:09:56
Speaker 1: him on the should and just kept walking. Wasn't gonna
1:09:58
Speaker 1: bother him. Keep making that money. And then I then
1:10:01
Speaker 1: I finished my photo session and I walked in the
1:10:04
Speaker 1: room and here was on stage talking about five thousand people,
1:10:07
Speaker 1: just just five to every seat was fair, and he
1:10:10
Speaker 1: was on stage talking about five to five thousand people.
1:10:14
Speaker 1: I do want such a stage of who I'm talking
1:10:16
Speaker 1: to on this far. This man is a motivator, He's
1:10:19
Speaker 1: a game change. And I've been knowing him almost ten
1:10:21
Speaker 1: years now, So let me get this intro in so
1:10:23
Speaker 1: y'all can hear why I'm excited to have him on
1:10:26
Speaker 1: Money Making Conversation. My next Caance writes a book a year,
1:10:30
Speaker 1: Roll a book a year. He is the author of
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Speaker 1: Dr Ian Smith. Hey, what's up with Sean? Hey man?
1:11:06
Speaker 1: I'm so happy to hear you because you are a
1:11:09
Speaker 1: true go get a man. Well you are too, and
1:11:13
Speaker 1: you know we're all in that orbit. But you know,
1:11:16
Speaker 1: when you know when you're blessed, and when God has
1:11:18
Speaker 1: blessed you with things and assets and abilities, I think
1:11:22
Speaker 1: it's your obligation to try to pay it forward and
1:11:24
Speaker 1: help others and and have a good time while you're
1:11:26
Speaker 1: doing it. Well, you know, I'm familiar with your style.
1:11:29
Speaker 1: I'm familiar with all the way we go, all the
1:11:31
Speaker 1: way back to the fifty million pound Challenge which stay
1:11:33
Speaker 1: Farm back in two thousand seven. I want to say,
1:11:36
Speaker 1: we was in d C and it was cold. We
1:11:37
Speaker 1: launched that giant campaign that was so successful and the
1:11:40
Speaker 1: reason I always happy you're on the show. We're talking
1:11:43
Speaker 1: about the thing that that I want to say this correctly,
1:11:47
Speaker 1: it almost makes you mad that people are just out
1:11:50
Speaker 1: there just killing themselves because they don't want to understand
1:11:53
Speaker 1: that necessary and that's what you trying to do. You
1:11:55
Speaker 1: try to get them the tools to a healthy lifestyle.
1:11:58
Speaker 1: Correct Yeah, well, you know I do get frustrated sometimes.
1:12:02
Speaker 1: Um luckily not all the time, but I do get frustrated.
1:12:05
Speaker 1: And my frustration is not one where I'm upset at people.
1:12:09
Speaker 1: It's one feeling like if I could just get more
1:12:13
Speaker 1: people to invest in themselves and just turn the corner
1:12:17
Speaker 1: as far as the way they think their mentality about
1:12:20
Speaker 1: the importance of leading just a better life. I've never
1:12:23
Speaker 1: asked for shan for anyone to eat perfectly, or to
1:12:25
Speaker 1: move perfectly, or to be perfect. That's not what my messages,
1:12:28
Speaker 1: my messages. If you do a few things just a
1:12:31
Speaker 1: little better, then they can drastically improve not just the
1:12:34
Speaker 1: quality of your life, but the length of your life. Now, Now,
1:12:37
Speaker 1: when I was in New York and I've seen you
1:12:39
Speaker 1: on stage, you know, and you're you're talking to like
1:12:41
Speaker 1: five thousand people in this room, and like I said,
1:12:43
Speaker 1: it was not a seat empty. People are standing against
1:12:47
Speaker 1: the walls listening to you talk. When you're talking to
1:12:49
Speaker 1: a room that be not everybody is understanding your message,
1:12:53
Speaker 1: and some of them don't even know why they listen
1:12:55
Speaker 1: to what you have to say. How do you take
1:12:57
Speaker 1: a room that big and and and and craft your
1:13:00
Speaker 1: narrative so they can understand that look at here, You're
1:13:03
Speaker 1: just there to provide information and an opportunity for a
1:13:07
Speaker 1: longer and better life. Correct, Yeah, you know, that's a
1:13:10
Speaker 1: good question. And when I'm in a room of that
1:13:12
Speaker 1: size with that many people, I really focus on one
1:13:15
Speaker 1: or two people. I don't feel like I'm talking to
1:13:17
Speaker 1: a whole room. I really try to make that intimate
1:13:19
Speaker 1: connection with one or two people. So I'll look people,
1:13:22
Speaker 1: I'll find people in the audience and connect with them,
1:13:25
Speaker 1: and I and I'm talking to them directly and everyone
1:13:29
Speaker 1: else's kind of ease dropping on that conversation, and that
1:13:32
Speaker 1: allows me to feel like I am engaged. Uh, that
1:13:35
Speaker 1: allows me to get that kind of connection. And you
1:13:38
Speaker 1: speak to a lot of artisces too. You know, it's
1:13:40
Speaker 1: important to be able to read the temperature of the room.
1:13:44
Speaker 1: And that's important because you want to get the head nodder.
1:13:46
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. The people who pointed you know,
1:13:49
Speaker 1: when you're looking what they they smiling at you. I
1:13:51
Speaker 1: con there you go, there you go, doc. See see
1:13:56
Speaker 1: I thought, Doc, We've been sitting in my office. We've laughed, man,
1:13:58
Speaker 1: We've been sweet happen because see, what I want to
1:14:01
Speaker 1: take away from this show is that, like I had
1:14:03
Speaker 1: the doctor Lana Raglan on the show, successful for doctors
1:14:06
Speaker 1: out of New York City and d c Y very
1:14:09
Speaker 1: popular foot surgeon and his personality. Man, you know you
1:14:12
Speaker 1: write all these books, but in the end, man, you're
1:14:15
Speaker 1: not controlling five thousand people unless you have a personality. Correct. Well, yeah,
1:14:20
Speaker 1: and I think that. You know, one of the reasons
1:14:22
Speaker 1: why I got into television, um was because I felt
1:14:25
Speaker 1: as though I wanted to be for just the doctor
1:14:28
Speaker 1: in the white coat, because doctors are people too. You know,
1:14:31
Speaker 1: we got bills to pay. We like to go to
1:14:32
Speaker 1: the movie. You know, we like the ball game. So
1:14:35
Speaker 1: I think that like me being able to take off
1:14:37
Speaker 1: the white coat and being able to relate to people
1:14:40
Speaker 1: on their level and about issues that are important to
1:14:42
Speaker 1: them has been really, really rewarding to me, and hopefully
1:14:46
Speaker 1: along the way I helped a few people. Now here's
1:14:49
Speaker 1: not when I'm reading this book and now, I've read
1:14:51
Speaker 1: several of your books in the past, and I can
1:14:54
Speaker 1: tell you true because he's been on talk shows with me.
1:14:56
Speaker 1: Are my talk show radio shows or I have to
1:14:58
Speaker 1: know when people come on WITHO know what they're talking about,
1:15:01
Speaker 1: so I can be able to make sure Steve on
1:15:03
Speaker 1: Steve and me, Steve Harvey knew what was talking about.
1:15:05
Speaker 1: So when I say I've read some of the books
1:15:07
Speaker 1: and path, I'm telling you the honest truth now. But
1:15:10
Speaker 1: this book felt a little more personal because you talk
1:15:13
Speaker 1: about your twin brother, okay, and then you also talk
1:15:16
Speaker 1: about you know, I believe your grandmother correct, yes, and
1:15:21
Speaker 1: and how this changed her life. So there are two
1:15:24
Speaker 1: different age groups that you're discussing in this book, and
1:15:28
Speaker 1: then you know you're also talking younger but those were
1:15:30
Speaker 1: specific to me, and I never heard you talk like
1:15:32
Speaker 1: that in your book before. So, what's this a more
1:15:35
Speaker 1: personable book to you? Personal book? It was? Yeah, definitely
1:15:38
Speaker 1: was more personal. Uh. You know, the Tyler book is
1:15:41
Speaker 1: called Last to Sugar Out, and I decided this year
1:15:44
Speaker 1: that I was going to take on sugar for several reasons.
1:15:47
Speaker 1: One because sugar is everywhere. Manufacturers are putting sugars in
1:15:51
Speaker 1: our foods unnecessarily. Now Listen, I like sweet things as
1:15:55
Speaker 1: much as the next person. So I'm not trying to
1:15:57
Speaker 1: say get rid of sugar or eliminated. I'm saying we
1:16:00
Speaker 1: need to reduce the amount of excess added sugars that
1:16:04
Speaker 1: are doing nothing to us. And my brother, ironically, my
1:16:07
Speaker 1: twin brother, I happened to be writing this book and
1:16:10
Speaker 1: here I were just in the conversation list in l A.
1:16:12
Speaker 1: We were just talked on the phone and he was
1:16:14
Speaker 1: just telling me how much better he felt. I said,
1:16:16
Speaker 1: why do you feel so so good? He said, well,
1:16:18
Speaker 1: I cut sugar out. And I couldn't believe it. Here
1:16:21
Speaker 1: I was writing a book about reducing sugar, and here
1:16:23
Speaker 1: he was doing it. And neither one of us that
1:16:25
Speaker 1: communicate to each other that we were both attacking the
1:16:28
Speaker 1: same thing exactly exactly. But you know what's interesting is
1:16:34
Speaker 1: I learned from his experience, and I incorporated in my introduction,
1:16:38
Speaker 1: is that he said that it's not that he was
1:16:40
Speaker 1: feeling bad, but he was feeling sluggy. She's a marathon running.
1:16:44
Speaker 1: He wasn't feeling like himself. And then he realized on
1:16:47
Speaker 1: his own that he was eating too much sugar. That
1:16:49
Speaker 1: sugar was everything. And so you know that in combination
1:16:52
Speaker 1: with my grandmother who was diagnosed with type two diabetes,
1:16:56
Speaker 1: uh and their sixty and I was a medical student,
1:16:58
Speaker 1: the first your medical student at the time, and you
1:17:01
Speaker 1: know when I went home for spring for semester breaks,
1:17:04
Speaker 1: you know, I really worked with her, trying to change
1:17:07
Speaker 1: how she ate and how she moved. My grandmother even
1:17:09
Speaker 1: joined the gym. So here you can imagine a six
1:17:11
Speaker 1: some of your old black women from the South, who's
1:17:13
Speaker 1: never been in a gym in her life. You know,
1:17:14
Speaker 1: I had I had her in the gym, working out
1:17:16
Speaker 1: and stuff like that. But here's the good news, though,
1:17:19
Speaker 1: two weeks later she went to her doctor. Her doctor said,
1:17:22
Speaker 1: what have you been doing? And she said, why do
1:17:24
Speaker 1: you say that? He said, I'm gonna have to cut
1:17:26
Speaker 1: your medications, your diabetes medications and half because your blood
1:17:30
Speaker 1: sugars have dropped precipitously. And she said, well, my grandson
1:17:33
Speaker 1: has been eating a little better and I'm exercising. And
1:17:35
Speaker 1: that was way back in the day that I learned that,
1:17:38
Speaker 1: And so when I wrote this book, I wanted that
1:17:40
Speaker 1: to be my guiding spirit about how I can talk
1:17:43
Speaker 1: to people on their level about how small changes can
1:17:46
Speaker 1: yield big differences. And that's really funny. Did you say
1:17:49
Speaker 1: that because I was I was doing because I was
1:17:51
Speaker 1: doing the money making conversations a seminar at w BLAS,
1:17:55
Speaker 1: and I told people that your your whole goal in
1:17:57
Speaker 1: life is for your resume and the things that you
1:18:00
Speaker 1: hype about yourself to become one that where you understand
1:18:03
Speaker 1: your future. And I say, in order to understand your future,
1:18:06
Speaker 1: you have to look in your past because as a
1:18:08
Speaker 1: foundation and information that you've actually gained up being given
1:18:12
Speaker 1: in your past that was set forth economic money making
1:18:15
Speaker 1: the conversations for you in the future. And you just
1:18:18
Speaker 1: answered that question right there. You said, it's something that
1:18:20
Speaker 1: you knew about when you and with your grandmother. Now
1:18:25
Speaker 1: you now kind of like the light bulb went off.
1:18:27
Speaker 1: You know, yeah, yeah, you know. And you know what
1:18:30
Speaker 1: Rashan essentially said that because you talk about economic past.
1:18:33
Speaker 1: You know, I'm very blessed now and I'm in a
1:18:36
Speaker 1: great position in life. But like everyone else, I had
1:18:39
Speaker 1: economic issues like anybody else, by the way, and I
1:18:42
Speaker 1: learned a valuable lessons than many years ago, when I
1:18:45
Speaker 1: had spent more than I you know, owned, and when
1:18:48
Speaker 1: I was making and found myself and you know, like
1:18:51
Speaker 1: everyone does, and I found myself in a very very
1:18:54
Speaker 1: precarious situation. And I'll never forget that day was over
1:18:58
Speaker 1: day and I was wiped out, and I said to God,
1:19:00
Speaker 1: I've looked this at the truth. I got all my needs.
1:19:02
Speaker 1: I live in New York City, the upreast side. I
1:19:04
Speaker 1: got all my needs. And said to the Lord, if
1:19:07
Speaker 1: you helped me get out of this financial depocle that
1:19:09
Speaker 1: I'm in right now, I will never ever ever return
1:19:13
Speaker 1: to it. I will pay my bills on time. I
1:19:16
Speaker 1: will not overspend. And I made this commitment to him,
1:19:18
Speaker 1: and I'm telling you guys, my witness. Two weeks later,
1:19:22
Speaker 1: two weeks later, I got a check in the bail
1:19:24
Speaker 1: for twenty five thousand dollars from Germany. I had no
1:19:30
Speaker 1: idea why I got this check. This this is the truth.
1:19:33
Speaker 1: It's crazy with Shan. And what happened was I had
1:19:35
Speaker 1: written the book that did not sell in the US,
1:19:39
Speaker 1: but someone saw the manuscript and the and the book
1:19:42
Speaker 1: market in Germany and they bought it. Unbeknotes to me,
1:19:45
Speaker 1: they bought it. And so I didn't know that, soul.
1:19:48
Speaker 1: I mean, they're being sold in Germany. And here I
1:19:50
Speaker 1: got this check for twenty five thousand dollars, and I
1:19:53
Speaker 1: know I did the first thing I did. I said
1:19:56
Speaker 1: to God, I'm a dud. I told you I was
1:19:57
Speaker 1: gonna do it. I give all that money, of all
1:20:00
Speaker 1: that money, I kept five dollars in the bank for myself.
1:20:03
Speaker 1: The rest of twenty five thousand dollars and paid off
1:20:06
Speaker 1: my debt, like I told I was gonna do. And
1:20:08
Speaker 1: I've been straight every sense. But that's but the thing
1:20:11
Speaker 1: about it is that you said, you asked, and then
1:20:14
Speaker 1: you did. A lot of people get it, and they go, well,
1:20:17
Speaker 1: you know, you know, you know, I'm gonna change the
1:20:20
Speaker 1: plan just a little bit. But you can't change to
1:20:22
Speaker 1: play it a little bit. No, No, you gotta say,
1:20:26
Speaker 1: you gotta say absolutely, and and that's the that's the
1:20:29
Speaker 1: beauty of it. And and so so you know, you
1:20:31
Speaker 1: know we're gonna do two breaks there, doc so, but
1:20:33
Speaker 1: but I wanted to, you know, let my listener on
1:20:35
Speaker 1: this and guess what we know we we we you
1:20:37
Speaker 1: You're back in the Roshan McDonald family now. So you
1:20:40
Speaker 1: know this is the first time or the last time
1:20:42
Speaker 1: you're gonna be on my show. It's heard on you know,
1:20:44
Speaker 1: my eye Parties holding in the Houston, Texas of course,
1:20:46
Speaker 1: but also our party. I have a podcast on radio,
1:20:49
Speaker 1: so you know, millions of people listening to this as well.
1:20:52
Speaker 1: So my whole thing with you is that, you know,
1:20:54
Speaker 1: just watching your brand, like I said to know somebody
1:20:56
Speaker 1: teen years, you know you've seen a journey and I'm
1:20:59
Speaker 1: not saying your journeys over with and now you owt
1:21:01
Speaker 1: right to rate tell me about that. Well, it's great.
1:21:04
Speaker 1: So you know they called me, uh this is my
1:21:07
Speaker 1: ninth season with him. They called me randomly and said
1:21:10
Speaker 1: would you come on and do some segments with us?
1:21:13
Speaker 1: And I said sure, And um, that was the executive
1:21:16
Speaker 1: producer you know all about that, and the et brought
1:21:19
Speaker 1: me in and we have just had a tremendous relationship.
1:21:22
Speaker 1: I am her head medical contributor. I'm also like cost
1:21:25
Speaker 1: but here also so I'm on the show where her
1:21:27
Speaker 1: right cost show where Her. It's just a great relationship.
1:21:30
Speaker 1: She's great. In fact, you gotta come on the show.
1:21:31
Speaker 1: She's great. We have a good time. I'm flying out
1:21:35
Speaker 1: there today to do a segment on ostel porosis. Uh.
1:21:38
Speaker 1: But it's really a good shows, a lot of fun
1:21:40
Speaker 1: and uh, I just enjoyed it. I enjoyed it. Let's
1:21:43
Speaker 1: let's get talking. Let's talk about your book now, because
1:21:45
Speaker 1: we're gonna talking about your book, but first you gotta
1:21:47
Speaker 1: talk about Rashwan in this book. I gotta let you
1:21:50
Speaker 1: know who you're talking to because you're blast to sugar Out.
1:21:54
Speaker 1: Is so funny that I'm talking to you now. You're
1:21:56
Speaker 1: talking to a guy who when he goes out to
1:21:59
Speaker 1: eat in the restaurant, are I ordered my dessert before
1:22:02
Speaker 1: my meal? Okay, that's one too. If you pick up
1:22:07
Speaker 1: my phone right now and you went through my apps,
1:22:10
Speaker 1: I have the Crispy Cream Hotlight app. So that means
1:22:16
Speaker 1: that I pressed that button. It tells me wherever I'm
1:22:19
Speaker 1: at in the country that has the Crispa Cream. If
1:22:22
Speaker 1: the hot Light is own. They hot and guess what
1:22:24
Speaker 1: your board do? I pull over? I pull over. I'll
1:22:29
Speaker 1: just let you know, dr I am crazy about my
1:22:33
Speaker 1: sweet Now my wife would tell you this. Uh, butter
1:22:37
Speaker 1: becaans my ice cream. Now, there you go, there you go,
1:22:41
Speaker 1: but see you blue Bell ice cream from Texas not
1:22:44
Speaker 1: blue Bell ice cream. I will eat a half gallon
1:22:47
Speaker 1: of ice cream in a week. Now, I will eat
1:22:50
Speaker 1: that in a week. So so when you when you
1:22:53
Speaker 1: write a book called Blasted Sugar Out, you and me
1:22:57
Speaker 1: got to talk because I know exactly what your brother
1:23:03
Speaker 1: was feeling, because whenever I get off of sugar man,
1:23:08
Speaker 1: I feel bad. I will because every because like in
1:23:13
Speaker 1: the first quarter of every year, I go on a
1:23:15
Speaker 1: non sweet diet, a non salt diet, and I lose
1:23:18
Speaker 1: about anywhere from fifteen pounds. I do it all the time.
1:23:22
Speaker 1: What's I was diagnosed with cancer, successfully went through surgery.
1:23:27
Speaker 1: It was thy roar and I've been given a clean
1:23:30
Speaker 1: bill of hell three years ago. So I do look
1:23:32
Speaker 1: at my health now. But I wanted to tell you
1:23:35
Speaker 1: exactly who you talking to. We start talking about your
1:23:39
Speaker 1: book in the next break, So you want to go
1:23:41
Speaker 1: because people always go, well, he's he looked healthy. He
1:23:46
Speaker 1: probably eat good all the time. No, I don't, No,
1:23:49
Speaker 1: I don't know. And so before we go to the
1:23:52
Speaker 1: next break, what do you say to idiots like me
1:23:55
Speaker 1: that that out there and just got a Crispy Cree
1:23:59
Speaker 1: hot light app on his phone? Before we eat a
1:24:02
Speaker 1: meal in a restaurant, he all just deserved. He eats
1:24:05
Speaker 1: a half a gallon of blue Bell butter to come
1:24:08
Speaker 1: ice cream in a week? What did you say to
1:24:11
Speaker 1: people like me? Dude? Well, first, first thing I would
1:24:14
Speaker 1: say to you is that you're not an idiot, because
1:24:16
Speaker 1: there's the people are addicted to week and I was
1:24:19
Speaker 1: addicted to and I got I got fifteen thousand people
1:24:23
Speaker 1: who are on our Facebook page. It's called sugar Blasters,
1:24:26
Speaker 1: and these guys all share the same thing you talk about.
1:24:29
Speaker 1: And you know what, the average weight loss ship for
1:24:32
Speaker 1: experiencing is twenty pounds in five weeks on the program.
1:24:36
Speaker 1: So you're not an idiot. You're like everybody else. And
1:24:38
Speaker 1: I'll tell you this before we go. A done it,
1:24:40
Speaker 1: by the way, has less added sugar in it that
1:24:43
Speaker 1: a coke or a snaffle ice too. You know something
1:24:46
Speaker 1: we're gonna talk about when they get back about lemonade,
1:24:49
Speaker 1: you know, in the restaurant to give you all you
1:24:50
Speaker 1: can drink and we free refills. We're gonna talk about
1:24:53
Speaker 1: that when we come back, right back. We're gonna be man.
1:24:56
Speaker 1: I love you, Man, I'm so halfy. You called them
1:24:58
Speaker 1: brother were gonna have We're gonna do it. Is Last
1:25:01
Speaker 1: Last sigure Out is the name of the book. He's
1:25:03
Speaker 1: traveling to New York to do another episode of Rachel Ray.
1:25:05
Speaker 1: We were back with more of Dr n dr N
1:25:08
Speaker 1: Smith number on New York Times, best selling author of Shred,
1:25:11
Speaker 1: but Blast the sigure Out. This is new book. We're
1:25:13
Speaker 1: right back for more money making conversations. Hi, this is
1:25:17
Speaker 1: Sean McDonald. I'm back, your host of money making Conversations
1:25:20
Speaker 1: on the phone. I have Dr Ian Smith, longtime relationship
1:25:24
Speaker 1: over ten years, co host of the nationally syndicated Rachel
1:25:27
Speaker 1: Ratio and then New York Times. I'm just talking about
1:25:30
Speaker 1: he owns New York Times bestseller Shred. We'll talk about
1:25:34
Speaker 1: that a little bit, but we don't show to talk
1:25:36
Speaker 1: about right now. It's this new book called Blast of
1:25:39
Speaker 1: Sugar Out. And I already told, already made my confessions
1:25:42
Speaker 1: about who I was and who he was talking to
1:25:44
Speaker 1: and he said with Sean, don't feel bad. There are
1:25:46
Speaker 1: a lot of people out of you. That's why I
1:25:47
Speaker 1: wrote this book. Now, let's talk about that book, this
1:25:50
Speaker 1: book without you know, you talk about books. You gotta
1:25:52
Speaker 1: be able to talk about the book, but not give
1:25:54
Speaker 1: away the books, so people go buy the book. Tell
1:25:56
Speaker 1: us about Blast to Sugar Out. So so this book
1:26:01
Speaker 1: basically is a book that helps people reduce the amount
1:26:04
Speaker 1: of surface that they're consuming. It doesn't ask them to eliminate,
1:26:06
Speaker 1: it doesn't ask them to eat perfectly. It's regular food.
1:26:10
Speaker 1: By the way, when you go, every day is spelled
1:26:12
Speaker 1: out for you five weeks. The average weight loss is
1:26:15
Speaker 1: up to twenty pounds in five weeks. But it's regular food,
1:26:17
Speaker 1: so you know, day one, day two, all the way
1:26:19
Speaker 1: through the end. People can buy this in grocery stores
1:26:22
Speaker 1: anywhere near them. Doesn't have to be gourmet. This is
1:26:24
Speaker 1: a book that the whole family can do. I have
1:26:26
Speaker 1: families for doing this together, because there are foods that
1:26:29
Speaker 1: kids eat and adults eat. But this is something I
1:26:31
Speaker 1: want your listeners to really take away. First, you have
1:26:34
Speaker 1: to know how much you're eating, how much sugar you're eating,
1:26:35
Speaker 1: and this is how you figure it out. When you
1:26:37
Speaker 1: see the numbers on the back of a label, the
1:26:40
Speaker 1: grams of sugar, you divide that number by four. The
1:26:45
Speaker 1: number you get as a result of that division is
1:26:47
Speaker 1: how many teaspoons are in one serving of that product.
1:26:51
Speaker 1: So if it says, for example, that the soda has
1:26:55
Speaker 1: sixty grams of sugar, which by the way, bottle of
1:27:00
Speaker 1: of of cold can do that sixty grams of sugar,
1:27:04
Speaker 1: you divide that by four. That's almost sixteen teaspoons of
1:27:09
Speaker 1: sugar is that one bottle? M hmm. This is very
1:27:15
Speaker 1: important for people to listen, So say that one more
1:27:16
Speaker 1: time on time, take a number on the back of
1:27:20
Speaker 1: the label of grams of sugar divided by four. The
1:27:24
Speaker 1: number you get is how many teaspoons you are consuming
1:27:28
Speaker 1: and one serving of that product. M Because the reason
1:27:32
Speaker 1: is important because see when I do gain weight, doctor's
1:27:36
Speaker 1: when I am, I'm a big water drinker. When I
1:27:38
Speaker 1: go to at home, I drink waiters are waitresses, they
1:27:42
Speaker 1: just look at me. Go for real, dude, I would
1:27:44
Speaker 1: just drink water water field please, I mean big glasses
1:27:47
Speaker 1: of water. And so I just love water and uh
1:27:50
Speaker 1: and so sometimes I go in a restaurant and they say,
1:27:54
Speaker 1: freelimonade refields. Okay, the nd I'm sitting up there drinking
1:27:59
Speaker 1: for or the five glasses of lemonade. And that's just
1:28:03
Speaker 1: like what you just say, I'm just drinking. I'm just
1:28:06
Speaker 1: eating teaspoons of sugar when I'm doing that, correct. Yeah, absolutely,
1:28:11
Speaker 1: And if you're gonna do that, by the way, just
1:28:12
Speaker 1: as a tip. I like lemonade too, by the way,
1:28:14
Speaker 1: but what I do when I go to a restaurant,
1:28:16
Speaker 1: get lemonade, and then take my water, and I dilute
1:28:19
Speaker 1: it so that it reduces the concentration of a sugar
1:28:22
Speaker 1: that's in there. So I diluted. So that's one thing
1:28:23
Speaker 1: people can do. But when it comes to soda, the
1:28:26
Speaker 1: studies show that the number one source of excess or
1:28:29
Speaker 1: added sugars come from sugary drinks like soda. So I
1:28:33
Speaker 1: tell people the first thing you should do is this.
1:28:35
Speaker 1: If you drink, let's just say six can some people do,
1:28:38
Speaker 1: by the way, six cans of soda of course of
1:28:39
Speaker 1: the day, divide it in half, okay, so reduce it
1:28:43
Speaker 1: down to three cans, and then for the other three
1:28:46
Speaker 1: that you're taking away, drink some carbonated or selts of
1:28:50
Speaker 1: water and then squeeze some stitches in it, some lime
1:28:53
Speaker 1: or some lemon to give you a little kick. But
1:28:55
Speaker 1: that is a that's something you can do right away
1:28:57
Speaker 1: to cut down on some of these excess sugar. Because
1:29:00
Speaker 1: my wife she does decarbinated water. I didn't know she
1:29:03
Speaker 1: come on with me. I said, oh no, no, don't
1:29:05
Speaker 1: mean no, your boy, don't do that. I'm gonna ride
1:29:08
Speaker 1: this one out. Let See. See here's the funny point
1:29:11
Speaker 1: about I'm hearing all your advice, but I'm kind of like, Okay,
1:29:14
Speaker 1: I'm fighting it. I'm fighting it. But you're telling the
1:29:16
Speaker 1: truth though, you know, like, dilute that good, that good lemonade.
1:29:19
Speaker 1: He wants me to dilute that good, that good Chick
1:29:22
Speaker 1: fil A lemonade. He want me to dilute that good
1:29:26
Speaker 1: is be honest with you, honest. I will go forget
1:29:40
Speaker 1: the sandwich. I give me a large lemonade, and I
1:29:44
Speaker 1: give me a large waffle five. I'm in my car.
1:29:47
Speaker 1: I don't even catch up. They asked me for sauces
1:29:49
Speaker 1: and me, y'all don't know who you're talking to. Get
1:29:51
Speaker 1: my lemonade, my five, and I'm a food that's the duty.
1:29:56
Speaker 1: That's why I know. I gotta get you back, because see,
1:29:58
Speaker 1: I want to bring this side. I think through humor,
1:30:01
Speaker 1: through personality, people are listening more because we're not asking
1:30:06
Speaker 1: people to suddenly become boring. You're not asking people to say, hey, man,
1:30:11
Speaker 1: whoa whoa boa do this? Man, I gotta changed my life.
1:30:14
Speaker 1: I can't watch TV no more, I can't do not
1:30:17
Speaker 1: I can't eat good food no more. That's not the
1:30:19
Speaker 1: true you're talking about. Hey, you want people understand what's
1:30:22
Speaker 1: the difference between brown sugar versus white sugar? Why? There's
1:30:25
Speaker 1: why when you use honey the advantages and with that transition,
1:30:29
Speaker 1: tell people the difference between brown sugar and white sugar.
1:30:33
Speaker 1: And when they say, you know these different alternatives, they
1:30:37
Speaker 1: are listed in your book. They are listed in great
1:30:39
Speaker 1: detail in your book. Yeah, let me break it down.
1:30:42
Speaker 1: So brown sugar and white sugar, from a nutritional standpoint,
1:30:46
Speaker 1: there is no difference. And that's what people don't understand.
1:30:49
Speaker 1: Marketers and manufacturers and advertisers have done such a great
1:30:53
Speaker 1: job of leading the public to believe that because it
1:30:57
Speaker 1: says raw sugar or brown sugar that it's healthier. The
1:31:01
Speaker 1: only thing making the sugar brown is that it has
1:31:04
Speaker 1: molasses on it, and so sugar typically the regular cane sugar,
1:31:09
Speaker 1: natural cane sugar is brown because of the molasses. And
1:31:13
Speaker 1: what typically happens is through the through the process of
1:31:16
Speaker 1: processing sugar, we then remove the molasses, we crystallize the
1:31:21
Speaker 1: sugar tubes, and we get this this white crystal is
1:31:25
Speaker 1: not fine white crystal. So when people say, well, brown
1:31:28
Speaker 1: sugar is better, no, no, no, no no. Brown sugar
1:31:30
Speaker 1: and white sugar have the same nutritional value. But if
1:31:34
Speaker 1: you want to try something different, you should try something
1:31:37
Speaker 1: like organic stevia. Stevia comes from the stevia plant. It's
1:31:42
Speaker 1: very sweet, sometimes sweeter than sugar, but just make sure
1:31:45
Speaker 1: it's organic because sometimes manufactors or put a lot of
1:31:48
Speaker 1: other chemicals in a mixed stevia product. The other thing
1:31:52
Speaker 1: to try is honey. Honey fantastic. Yes, honey still is sweet.
1:31:57
Speaker 1: Honey does have some calories in it, but honey also
1:32:00
Speaker 1: has other good nratriditional values to it outside of the sweetness.
1:32:03
Speaker 1: So the book goes through all the different types of sweeteners.
1:32:07
Speaker 1: It talks about artificial sweeteners. I am not a fan
1:32:10
Speaker 1: of artificial sweeteners because the word artificial to me means process,
1:32:14
Speaker 1: means it could be damaging to your body. The studies
1:32:17
Speaker 1: are mixed right now as the weather adopted long term consequences.
1:32:21
Speaker 1: But I'd rather have a little bit of the real stuff.
1:32:23
Speaker 1: They take the artificial stuff that's been creating a lot.
1:32:26
Speaker 1: And I'm I just talked about this, honey, right quick.
1:32:29
Speaker 1: I'm a big pancake guy, you know, I go to
1:32:30
Speaker 1: crack a barrel. Let me tell you something. Them become pancake.
1:32:35
Speaker 1: Did they throw out the back of that kitchen and
1:32:36
Speaker 1: put up that. I give by three or four of them,
1:32:39
Speaker 1: and I do it up right. I accidentally put honey
1:32:43
Speaker 1: on my pancakes. And I would have never I would
1:32:47
Speaker 1: have never ever put honey on my pancakes. I get
1:32:49
Speaker 1: I grabbed that maple syrup, my friend, gotta be thick,
1:32:52
Speaker 1: you know, put a little better on top, and I
1:32:54
Speaker 1: put it on that on those pancakes. And I looked
1:32:56
Speaker 1: at my wife, I go, what's that? She's a you eating? Echo?
1:32:59
Speaker 1: Why out? It's pretty cool? Pretty good? Right, it's pretty
1:33:03
Speaker 1: pretty good. It's pretty good. And so I say that
1:33:08
Speaker 1: to say that we will tell ourselves, we will deny
1:33:11
Speaker 1: ourselves before even trying. Because I accidentally tried honey. It's
1:33:17
Speaker 1: changing my diet Rashan, you have hit on such an
1:33:20
Speaker 1: important point, not just about food but life in general,
1:33:24
Speaker 1: about particularly when I talked to African Americans, as I say,
1:33:28
Speaker 1: you guys, don't say no yet based on the name
1:33:32
Speaker 1: of it or based on the look of it. Give
1:33:34
Speaker 1: it a try, and people get surprised that once they
1:33:37
Speaker 1: try something they thought they would never like, Like we say, well,
1:33:40
Speaker 1: I don't want to eat that keen? What's that keen walk?
1:33:43
Speaker 1: Then people try it in a dish, They're like, what
1:33:46
Speaker 1: is this. I'm like, that's keen hummas. I'm not gonna
1:33:50
Speaker 1: eat any hummus. They try some hummus, They're like, oh,
1:33:53
Speaker 1: this is good. What is this humas? So one of
1:33:56
Speaker 1: the thing I tried to do all my books. The
1:33:57
Speaker 1: book has more than forty recipes as all kinds of
1:34:01
Speaker 1: snacks in there. What I try to do with my
1:34:03
Speaker 1: books is to open up people's palate before and I
1:34:09
Speaker 1: think that that's why I'm so happy to have you
1:34:11
Speaker 1: on the show, because I'm that person. I'm that person.
1:34:15
Speaker 1: I'm in some cases the extreme because like I said,
1:34:18
Speaker 1: I don't think everybody rolling around with a with a
1:34:20
Speaker 1: Crispy Crean hotlight app on there and it is supposed
1:34:23
Speaker 1: to be one of these polished professionals. You know what
1:34:25
Speaker 1: I'm saying, I gotta do and probably used it on
1:34:28
Speaker 1: Saturday when I landed in Atlantic, landed at nine o'clock,
1:34:33
Speaker 1: hit that app light was all drove over. There has
1:34:37
Speaker 1: some has a blueberry cake Donenuts coming down the line
1:34:40
Speaker 1: and had the classic glaze. I said, give me six glaze,
1:34:44
Speaker 1: give me too blueberry, and give me some two percent
1:34:47
Speaker 1: milk and that And that's the beauty of of of
1:34:54
Speaker 1: doing it right and doing it wrong. But in the
1:34:56
Speaker 1: process of hearing and reading your book, I'm just telling you, guys,
1:34:59
Speaker 1: read this book. He's let me know. Okay, there's a
1:35:02
Speaker 1: five week program. Let's talk about that five week program.
1:35:06
Speaker 1: And in the first week a get started. Let's talk
1:35:08
Speaker 1: about that. So it's five weeks. Every day is starlled
1:35:12
Speaker 1: out for you, so breakfast, snack, launch, snack, dinner with
1:35:16
Speaker 1: optional snack, all those things are laid out for you
1:35:18
Speaker 1: with options. So if you're someone who doesn't eat fish
1:35:22
Speaker 1: or meat or your vegetarian, there are enough options you
1:35:24
Speaker 1: can swap in and out very easily. There's also some exercise,
1:35:28
Speaker 1: so I give you some exercises you can do. By
1:35:29
Speaker 1: the way, I never asked you to work out for
1:35:32
Speaker 1: an hour in the gym. You don't need to work
1:35:33
Speaker 1: out for an hour in the gym. In fact, mostly
1:35:35
Speaker 1: exercise you don't need a gym to be able to
1:35:37
Speaker 1: complete them. So every day you will get your meal plan,
1:35:41
Speaker 1: and if it's an exercise day, there are rest days.
1:35:43
Speaker 1: If it's an exercise day, I'll give you a suggestive
1:35:45
Speaker 1: amount of exercise and some exercises to do, and you
1:35:48
Speaker 1: go day by day a by that and what happens.
1:35:49
Speaker 1: What you don't really, you don't realize, is that they're
1:35:52
Speaker 1: gonna have to count calories in my program. Nothing. Why
1:35:54
Speaker 1: do you have to be able to measure or look
1:35:56
Speaker 1: at something like if I say a cup or half
1:35:58
Speaker 1: a cup, that's all you gotta do. But the idea
1:36:01
Speaker 1: is this, over the course of five weeks, I'm slowly
1:36:04
Speaker 1: weaning you off excess cucus I'm not taking you all
1:36:08
Speaker 1: this completely, by the way, I'm just lowering it down.
1:36:11
Speaker 1: And the reason why I do it gradly is because
1:36:14
Speaker 1: if you stopped consuming sugar cold turkey, hello, we lost
1:36:23
Speaker 1: him cool. Well he just dropped off about to go
1:36:28
Speaker 1: through that big ending and then he just dropped off. Okay, cool,
1:36:32
Speaker 1: let me just wrap this up real quick with dry Smith. Basically,
1:36:34
Speaker 1: what he's saying is that in his book The Blaster
1:36:37
Speaker 1: Sugar Out, his brother did that. He dropped cold turkey
1:36:42
Speaker 1: and it just really affected his body. So he's talking
1:36:45
Speaker 1: from a lane of experience, a lane of understanding that
1:36:48
Speaker 1: you can't do anything. And I've done that. I've just
1:36:50
Speaker 1: stopped you know, just stopped you those doughnuts that you've
1:36:53
Speaker 1: heard me talk about for the last thirty minutes on
1:36:55
Speaker 1: the air with Dr N Smith. All these things I've
1:36:57
Speaker 1: done and guess what is not do it? To do
1:37:00
Speaker 1: it that way, you have to have a plan, You
1:37:03
Speaker 1: have to have a process. You have to be able
1:37:05
Speaker 1: to talk to people to be able to say this
1:37:07
Speaker 1: is how it is supposed to be done. And that's
1:37:09
Speaker 1: what Dr N Smith is saying. Dr Smith is saying
1:37:12
Speaker 1: right now, is he back on the line? Doctor, You're back.
1:37:14
Speaker 1: You're bout the end that you you you you rolling
1:37:16
Speaker 1: up to a big moment and then you then you
1:37:18
Speaker 1: left me. So I was saying, So I was saying,
1:37:20
Speaker 1: what happens is that every day you don't go through
1:37:23
Speaker 1: the withdrawal because I slowly reduced your sugar, and you
1:37:27
Speaker 1: don't have that rebound that people do who cut off
1:37:29
Speaker 1: cold turkey, and you don't have those urges because you're
1:37:32
Speaker 1: still getting sugar, just not too much. And that's really
1:37:35
Speaker 1: important because, like I was saying, in your book, you
1:37:36
Speaker 1: talk about your twin brother who did that, and how
1:37:39
Speaker 1: I really made him miserable, you know, made him, made
1:37:42
Speaker 1: his days longer, and his energy was bad because he
1:37:46
Speaker 1: did that. And and not cold turkey. He stopped cold turkey.
1:37:49
Speaker 1: And that's not small. You know, we're not trying you
1:37:51
Speaker 1: know this ain't buy no drug. You know you're over
1:37:53
Speaker 1: there guard. You know. It's just about just about slowing
1:37:55
Speaker 1: it down. And I've done the cold turkey turkey thing,
1:37:58
Speaker 1: cold turkey too, and what happens there, I would start vibrating.
1:38:02
Speaker 1: You know, I'll get nervous a lot because my nervous jittery, jittery.
1:38:06
Speaker 1: So I know for a fact what he's saying. That's
1:38:08
Speaker 1: why it's important to buy this book is it tells
1:38:12
Speaker 1: you how to do it correctly. He's trying to wean
1:38:14
Speaker 1: you are trying to not drastically change your diet, but
1:38:18
Speaker 1: educate you and change your diet so you can learn
1:38:20
Speaker 1: and then feel comfortable and strong every day. Dr Smith,
1:38:24
Speaker 1: It's been amazing man. I appreciate you coming on the show.
1:38:27
Speaker 1: Any any part in words where you get out of here,
1:38:29
Speaker 1: my friend. Absolutely. I want to say this. There are
1:38:32
Speaker 1: twenty eight million plus Americans who are Type two diabetics.
1:38:36
Speaker 1: There are eighty six million Americans who are pre diabetic.
1:38:39
Speaker 1: I mean they're on the Vergin diabetes. With my plan
1:38:41
Speaker 1: Blast to Sugar Out, we were able to reduce people's
1:38:44
Speaker 1: blood sugars by thirty percent. People are coming off of
1:38:47
Speaker 1: their medications. They are preventing diabetes from happening. So this
1:38:51
Speaker 1: is not just a book for diabetics. This is a
1:38:53
Speaker 1: book for all of us, myself included, because all of
1:38:56
Speaker 1: us are eating too much sugar. We all need to
1:38:58
Speaker 1: drop our blood sugar level and once you do that,
1:39:01
Speaker 1: life will never be the same. Join me on social media.
1:39:04
Speaker 1: On Instagram it's at Dr Ian Smith's Fell the Doctor
1:39:08
Speaker 1: Out and on Twitter it's at Dr Ian Smith d
1:39:12
Speaker 1: R I A. N. Smith And our Facebook group is
1:39:15
Speaker 1: called sugar Blasters. I love you, man, appreciate you, man,
1:39:18
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