Latest / The Wheelhouse / Inspiring Exceptionalism: A Deep Dive into Transformational Leadership
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- 0:01What
- 0:01exactly
- 0:02is
- 0:03a
- 0:03transformational
- 0:04leader?
- 0:05How
- 0:05do
- 0:05these
- 0:05leaders
- 0:06find
- 0:06their
- 0:06people?
- 0:07How
- 0:08do
- 0:08they
- 0:08stay
- 0:08grounded
- 0:09in
- 0:09their
- 0:09resolve
- 0:10despite
- 0:10all
- 0:11the
- 0:11resistance?
- 0:12Let's
- 0:13find
- 0:13out
- 0:13from
- 0:13a
- 0:14national
- 0:14award
- 0:15winning
- 0:15transformational
- 0:16leader
- 0:17herself.
- 0:18A
- 0:18new
- 0:18episode
- 0:19of
- 0:19the
- 0:19Wheelhouse
- 0:19begins
- 0:20right
- 0:21now.
- 0:32Thank
- 0:32you
- 0:33so
- 0:33much
- 0:33for
- 0:34taking
- 0:34time
- 0:34out
- 0:35of
- 0:35your
- 0:35busy
- 0:35day
- 0:35to
- 0:36give
- 0:36us
- 0:36a
- 0:36listen.
- 0:37Season
- 0:3710
- 0:38features
- 0:38a
- 0:38team
- 0:39of
- 0:39four
- 0:39like
- 0:40minded
- 0:40friends
- 0:40and
- 0:41colleagues.
- 0:41Cathy
- 0:42Mone,
- 0:43Michael
- 0:43Pipa,
- 0:44Dr.
- 0:44Alicia
- 0:45Munro
- 0:45and
- 0:46yours
- 0:46truly.
- 0:47We've
- 0:47opened
- 0:47the
- 0:48conversation
- 0:48this
- 0:48season
- 0:49to
- 0:49think
- 0:49about
- 0:49empowering
- 0:50educators
- 0:51to
- 0:51cultivate
- 0:52open
- 0:53doors
- 0:53and
- 0:53unlimited
- 0:54possibilities.
- 0:56The
- 0:56Wheelhouse
- 0:57exists
- 0:57to
- 0:57create
- 0:58an
- 0:58inclusive
- 0:58community
- 0:59of
- 0:59empowered
- 1:00educators
- 1:01who
- 1:01believe
- 1:01that
- 1:02together
- 1:02we
- 1:03can
- 1:03disrupt
- 1:03disrupt
- 1:04the
- 1:04transactional
- 1:05hurting
- 1:05nature
- 1:06of
- 1:06schooling.
- 1:07To
- 1:07create
- 1:08districts,
- 1:09schools
- 1:09and
- 1:09classrooms
- 1:10where
- 1:10each
- 1:11student
- 1:11feels
- 1:12confident,
- 1:13optimistic,
- 1:14capable,
- 1:15well
- 1:15supported
- 1:16and
- 1:16emboldened
- 1:17to
- 1:18be
- 1:18and
- 1:18to
- 1:18become
- 1:19who
- 1:19they're
- 1:20meant
- 1:20to
- 1:20be.
- 1:21Episodes
- 1:22of
- 1:22the
- 1:22Wheelhouse
- 1:23will
- 1:23explore
- 1:24bodies
- 1:24of
- 1:25knowledge
- 1:25and
- 1:25expertise
- 1:26that
- 1:26align
- 1:26to
- 1:26this
- 1:27vision
- 1:27and
- 1:28these
- 1:28guiding
- 1:28principles.
- 1:30Our
- 1:30team
- 1:30and
- 1:31our
- 1:31guests
- 1:31are
- 1:32committed
- 1:32to
- 1:32this
- 1:33fundamental
- 1:33challenge
- 1:34to
- 1:34realize
- 1:35just
- 1:35exactly
- 1:36what
- 1:36we
- 1:36want
- 1:37for
- 1:37each
- 1:37student
- 1:38to
- 1:38experience
- 1:39in
- 1:39school.
- 1:40In
- 1:40today's
- 1:41episode,
- 1:41we
- 1:41welcome
- 1:42the
- 1:422024
- 1:43inaugural
- 1:44winner
- 1:45of
- 1:45the
- 1:45ISTE
- 1:46ASCD
- 1:47Transformational
- 1:48Leader
- 1:48Award,
- 1:49Terry
- 1:50Perez.
- 1:51As
- 1:51the
- 1:51director
- 1:52of
- 1:52alternative
- 1:52certification
- 1:53programming
- 1:54for
- 1:54one
- 1:55of
- 1:55the
- 1:55largest
- 1:55charter
- 1:56organizations
- 1:57in
- 1:57the
- 1:57state
- 1:57of
- 1:57Texas,
- 1:58which
- 1:59serves
- 1:59almost
- 2:0050,
- 2:0050,000
- 2:01scholars
- 2:02across
- 2:02the
- 2:02state,
- 2:03Terry
- 2:04Perez
- 2:04has
- 2:04spearheaded
- 2:05many
- 2:05of
- 2:06the
- 2:06district's
- 2:06innovative
- 2:07leadership
- 2:08development
- 2:08programs,
- 2:09including
- 2:10a
- 2:10principal
- 2:10residency
- 2:11and
- 2:11a
- 2:12formal
- 2:12mentoring
- 2:13program
- 2:13for
- 2:13new
- 2:14school
- 2:14leaders.
- 2:15She's
- 2:15proudly
- 2:16led
- 2:16the
- 2:16instructional
- 2:17design,
- 2:17launch
- 2:17and
- 2:18administration
- 2:18of
- 2:19Texas's
- 2:19first
- 2:20learning
- 2:20management
- 2:21system
- 2:22for
- 2:22students
- 2:22and
- 2:22teachers.
- 2:23She's
- 2:24more
- 2:24than
- 2:2420
- 2:25years
- 2:25of
- 2:25experience
- 2:26in
- 2:26education,
- 2:27but
- 2:27Terry
- 2:28continues
- 2:28to
- 2:29her
- 2:29curiosity
- 2:30about
- 2:31what
- 2:31adults
- 2:32can
- 2:32do
- 2:33to
- 2:33make
- 2:33educational
- 2:34excellence
- 2:35accessible
- 2:36for
- 2:36every
- 2:37student.
- 2:38In
- 2:38our
- 2:38conversation,
- 2:39she'll
- 2:39talk
- 2:39about
- 2:40how
- 2:40she
- 2:40defines
- 2:41transformational
- 2:42leadership,
- 2:43what
- 2:43it
- 2:43looks
- 2:44like
- 2:44in
- 2:44action,
- 2:45the
- 2:45importance
- 2:46of
- 2:46finding
- 2:47our
- 2:47people,
- 2:48and
- 2:48how
- 2:48to
- 2:48remain
- 2:49steadfast
- 2:50when
- 2:50the
- 2:50resistance
- 2:51is
- 2:52strong.
- 2:53And
- 2:54now,
- 2:54episode
- 2:55nine
- 2:55and
- 2:56a
- 2:56great
- 2:56conversation
- 2:57with
- 2:57our
- 2:57special
- 2:58guest,
- 2:58Terry
- 2:59Perez
- 3:00and
- 3:00our
- 3:00Wheelhouse
- 3:01team,
- 3:01Kathy
- 3:01mone,
- 3:02Michael
- 3:03Piper,
- 3:03Dr.
- 3:04Alicia
- 3:04Monroe
- 3:05and
- 3:06me.
- 3:06You're
- 3:06not
- 3:07going
- 3:07to
- 3:07want
- 3:07to
- 3:07miss
- 3:07it.
- 3:08Take
- 3:08a
- 3:08listen.
- 3:16Good
- 3:16morning.
- 3:17It
- 3:17is
- 3:18September
- 3:20in
- 3:21the
- 3:21Wheelhouse.
- 3:23We
- 3:23are
- 3:23about
- 3:23to
- 3:24officially
- 3:25say
- 3:25sayonara
- 3:26to
- 3:27summer.
- 3:27I'm
- 3:27a
- 3:28little
- 3:28bit
- 3:28sad
- 3:29about
- 3:29that,
- 3:30but
- 3:30hey,
- 3:31fall
- 3:31is
- 3:31beautiful
- 3:32depending
- 3:33on
- 3:33where
- 3:33in
- 3:33this
- 3:34country
- 3:34you
- 3:34live.
- 3:35So
- 3:35hey,
- 3:36good
- 3:36morning
- 3:36and
- 3:37welcome
- 3:37back.
- 3:38I
- 3:38want
- 3:38to
- 3:38say
- 3:38good
- 3:39morning
- 3:39to
- 3:39my
- 3:39Wheelhouse
- 3:40team.
- 3:41They're
- 3:41all
- 3:41back
- 3:41in
- 3:41the
- 3:42Wheelhouse
- 3:42today.
- 3:43Every
- 3:43single
- 3:44one
- 3:44of
- 3:44them
- 3:44is
- 3:44here
- 3:45and
- 3:45I'M
- 3:45super
- 3:45excited
- 3:46about
- 3:46that.
- 3:47So
- 3:47welcome
- 3:47Kathy
- 3:48Mone,
- 3:48Michael
- 3:48Pipa
- 3:49and
- 3:49Dr.
- 3:49Alicia
- 3:50Monroe.
- 3:52Good
- 3:52morning.
- 3:52Good
- 3:53morning.
- 3:55Hello.
- 3:55How
- 3:55are
- 3:55you
- 3:55all?
- 3:58So
- 3:58good.
- 3:59Hey,
- 3:59family.
- 4:00Hello.
- 4:01Hello.
- 4:03We
- 4:03are
- 4:04post
- 4:05Labor
- 4:05Day
- 4:07and
- 4:09heading
- 4:09toward
- 4:09the
- 4:10season
- 4:10finale.
- 4:11We
- 4:11have
- 4:11a
- 4:11couple
- 4:11of
- 4:12amazing
- 4:13guests
- 4:14left
- 4:14to
- 4:15join
- 4:15us
- 4:15in
- 4:15the
- 4:16wheelhouse
- 4:16before
- 4:16we
- 4:17assemble
- 4:17all
- 4:18of
- 4:18them.
- 4:19A
- 4:19Real
- 4:19Housewife
- 4:20style
- 4:21reunion
- 4:22at
- 4:22the
- 4:23end
- 4:23of
- 4:23the
- 4:23episode.
- 4:24So,
- 4:24hey,
- 4:24good
- 4:24morning
- 4:25to
- 4:25you
- 4:25all.
- 4:25And
- 4:26I
- 4:26want
- 4:26to
- 4:27welcome
- 4:27in
- 4:27the
- 4:27intro
- 4:28I
- 4:28talked
- 4:28about
- 4:29this
- 4:30person.
- 4:33We've
- 4:33been
- 4:33talking
- 4:33about
- 4:34having
- 4:34Terri
- 4:34on
- 4:35the
- 4:35wheelhouse
- 4:36forever.
- 4:37And
- 4:38I'm
- 4:38super
- 4:38excited
- 4:39that
- 4:40she's
- 4:40here
- 4:40to
- 4:40join
- 4:41us
- 4:41today.
- 4:42From
- 4:42Houston,
- 4:43Texas
- 4:45is
- 4:45ISTE
- 4:46ASCD
- 4:47inaugural
- 4:49Transformational
- 4:50Leader
- 4:50award
- 4:51winner,
- 4:51Terry
- 4:52Perez.
- 4:54Welcome.
- 4:57Good
- 4:58morning.
- 4:59Congratulations.
- 5:01Thank
- 5:01you.
- 5:01Howdy.
- 5:02How
- 5:03are
- 5:03you,
- 5:03my
- 5:03friend?
- 5:04I'm
- 5:05well.
- 5:05I'm
- 5:05superb.
- 5:06Thank
- 5:06you
- 5:06so
- 5:06much
- 5:07for
- 5:07asking.
- 5:08Hey,
- 5:08we
- 5:08are
- 5:09so
- 5:09excited
- 5:09to
- 5:09have
- 5:10you
- 5:10here
- 5:11in
- 5:11the
- 5:12wheelhouse
- 5:12today.
- 5:13So
- 5:13first
- 5:14I
- 5:14talked
- 5:14about
- 5:16your
- 5:16award,
- 5:16which
- 5:17is
- 5:17almost
- 5:17like
- 5:17a
- 5:18year
- 5:18ago.
- 5:18It
- 5:18was
- 5:18November
- 5:19of
- 5:1924
- 5:20when
- 5:20you
- 5:20got
- 5:20that
- 5:21award
- 5:22in.
- 5:23I
- 5:23think
- 5:23we
- 5:23were
- 5:23in
- 5:23Nashville,
- 5:24weren't
- 5:24we?
- 5:25We
- 5:25were
- 5:26in
- 5:26Nashville.
- 5:26We
- 5:27were
- 5:27in
- 5:27Nashville.
- 5:28And
- 5:28so
- 5:29what
- 5:29did
- 5:30that
- 5:30mean
- 5:30to
- 5:30you?
- 5:31Well,
- 5:31I'll
- 5:32kind
- 5:32of
- 5:32preface
- 5:32with.
- 5:33Before
- 5:33I
- 5:33actually
- 5:34got
- 5:35the
- 5:35award
- 5:36in
- 5:36person,
- 5:37it
- 5:37was
- 5:38beautiful
- 5:38because
- 5:38the
- 5:39organization
- 5:40managed
- 5:40to,
- 5:41behind
- 5:41my
- 5:41back,
- 5:42secretly
- 5:43gather
- 5:44a
- 5:44lot
- 5:44of
- 5:44my
- 5:45colleagues,
- 5:46not
- 5:47just
- 5:47in
- 5:47my
- 5:47organization
- 5:48that
- 5:48I
- 5:48work
- 5:49for,
- 5:49but
- 5:49in
- 5:50iste,
- 5:50ascd,
- 5:51and
- 5:52those
- 5:52colleagues
- 5:53whom
- 5:53I
- 5:53refer
- 5:54to
- 5:54as
- 5:55friend
- 5:55Tours.
- 5:56Yes,
- 5:56that's
- 5:56a
- 5:56made
- 5:56up
- 5:56word.
- 5:57It's
- 5:57friend
- 5:58plus
- 5:58mentor,
- 5:59friendor.
- 6:00And
- 6:00so
- 6:00it
- 6:00was
- 6:01just
- 6:01a
- 6:01unique
- 6:02thing
- 6:02where
- 6:03they
- 6:03put
- 6:03me
- 6:04on
- 6:04a
- 6:04zoom
- 6:05and
- 6:06there
- 6:06were
- 6:06like
- 6:0720
- 6:07people
- 6:08in
- 6:08this
- 6:08zoom.
- 6:08It
- 6:08was
- 6:09more
- 6:09than
- 6:09just
- 6:09the
- 6:09Brady
- 6:10Bun
- 6:10all
- 6:10saying,
- 6:11surprise,
- 6:11we're
- 6:12here
- 6:12because
- 6:13you're
- 6:13getting
- 6:14this
- 6:14award.
- 6:15And
- 6:15that
- 6:16meant
- 6:17the
- 6:17world
- 6:17to
- 6:17me.
- 6:18All
- 6:18these
- 6:18people
- 6:19that
- 6:19I
- 6:19adore
- 6:20and
- 6:20respect
- 6:22honoring
- 6:22me
- 6:23in
- 6:23such
- 6:23a
- 6:23way
- 6:23that
- 6:24I
- 6:24never
- 6:24even
- 6:24expected.
- 6:25But
- 6:26the
- 6:26award
- 6:26itself
- 6:27means
- 6:28a
- 6:28lot
- 6:28to
- 6:28me
- 6:28because
- 6:30it's
- 6:30about
- 6:30being
- 6:31a
- 6:31visionary
- 6:32in
- 6:32an
- 6:32area
- 6:33where
- 6:33there's
- 6:33already
- 6:34that
- 6:35is
- 6:35saturated
- 6:36with
- 6:36people
- 6:36who
- 6:36are
- 6:37doing
- 6:37great
- 6:37work
- 6:38and
- 6:38to
- 6:38be
- 6:39counted
- 6:39among
- 6:39them
- 6:40was
- 6:41a
- 6:41deep
- 6:41honor
- 6:43and
- 6:43well
- 6:44deserved.
- 6:44Right?
- 6:45I've
- 6:45known
- 6:45you
- 6:45for
- 6:46quite
- 6:47a
- 6:47while.
- 6:47It
- 6:47is
- 6:47also
- 6:48well
- 6:48deserved.
- 6:49So
- 6:49I
- 6:49want
- 6:50to
- 6:50talk
- 6:50about
- 6:50this
- 6:50term
- 6:51Transformational
- 6:52Leader
- 6:52for
- 6:52a
- 6:53minute
- 6:53because
- 6:53we
- 6:53use
- 6:54this
- 6:54term,
- 6:55it
- 6:55gets
- 6:56used
- 6:56everywhere,
- 6:57as
- 6:58do
- 6:58other
- 6:58terms
- 6:59for
- 6:59leadership.
- 7:01Everybody
- 7:02has
- 7:02their
- 7:02take
- 7:02on
- 7:03that,
- 7:03including
- 7:03yours
- 7:04truly.
- 7:04I
- 7:04have
- 7:05one
- 7:05as
- 7:05well,
- 7:05which
- 7:06is
- 7:06superior.
- 7:07But
- 7:07we
- 7:07won't
- 7:07go
- 7:07there.
- 7:08Right?
- 7:09But,
- 7:09but,
- 7:11but
- 7:11this
- 7:11idea
- 7:12of
- 7:13which
- 7:13I
- 7:13love,
- 7:14this
- 7:14idea
- 7:15of
- 7:15naming
- 7:16something,
- 7:16naming
- 7:17a
- 7:17person
- 7:17or
- 7:17naming
- 7:18a
- 7:18style
- 7:18of
- 7:18leadership
- 7:19as
- 7:20is
- 7:20something
- 7:20that
- 7:20is
- 7:20transformational
- 7:21when
- 7:22you
- 7:22think
- 7:22of
- 7:22that
- 7:22term.
- 7:23Right.
- 7:24And
- 7:24when
- 7:24we
- 7:24use
- 7:24the
- 7:25term,
- 7:25you
- 7:26know,
- 7:26today
- 7:26or
- 7:27you
- 7:27know,
- 7:27it's
- 7:28everywhere,
- 7:28what
- 7:29does
- 7:29it
- 7:29mean
- 7:30when
- 7:30we
- 7:30say,
- 7:31oh,
- 7:32so
- 7:32and
- 7:32so
- 7:32is
- 7:33a
- 7:33transformational
- 7:34leader
- 7:34or
- 7:35this
- 7:35is
- 7:35about
- 7:36transformational.
- 7:39How.
- 7:39Do
- 7:39you
- 7:39define
- 7:40that?
- 7:41I
- 7:42mean,
- 7:42I
- 7:43usually
- 7:43try
- 7:43to
- 7:43stay
- 7:43within,
- 7:44you
- 7:44know,
- 7:45a
- 7:45more
- 7:45narrow
- 7:46view
- 7:46of
- 7:47what
- 7:47transformational
- 7:47leadership
- 7:48is,
- 7:48which
- 7:49is
- 7:49really
- 7:49somebody
- 7:49who
- 7:50inspires
- 7:50others
- 7:51to
- 7:51do
- 7:51exceptional
- 7:52things
- 7:53and
- 7:54to
- 7:54do
- 7:55exceptional
- 7:55things
- 7:55beyond
- 7:56what
- 7:56they
- 7:56thought
- 7:56they
- 7:57could.
- 7:58So
- 7:59for
- 7:59me,
- 7:59it's
- 8:00really
- 8:00about
- 8:00being
- 8:00the
- 8:01kind
- 8:01of
- 8:02friendor
- 8:04champion
- 8:05and
- 8:06being
- 8:07able
- 8:07to
- 8:07see
- 8:07in
- 8:08others,
- 8:09but
- 8:09they
- 8:09don't
- 8:09yet
- 8:09see
- 8:10for
- 8:10themselves.
- 8:11And
- 8:12I
- 8:12think
- 8:12that's
- 8:12a
- 8:12big
- 8:13part
- 8:13of,
- 8:14to
- 8:14me,
- 8:15transformational
- 8:16leadership,
- 8:17having
- 8:18a
- 8:18vision
- 8:18that
- 8:18goes
- 8:19beyond
- 8:19what
- 8:19everybody
- 8:20else
- 8:20sees
- 8:21and
- 8:22being
- 8:22able
- 8:22to
- 8:22say,
- 8:23we
- 8:23can
- 8:23get
- 8:23there
- 8:24and
- 8:24we
- 8:24can
- 8:24do
- 8:24it
- 8:25together.
- 8:28And
- 8:28can
- 8:28you
- 8:28think
- 8:29of
- 8:29a
- 8:29concrete
- 8:30example
- 8:30of.
- 8:30I
- 8:31mean,
- 8:32that's
- 8:33the
- 8:33best
- 8:33definition
- 8:34of
- 8:34transformational
- 8:34leader
- 8:35I've
- 8:35heard
- 8:36and
- 8:36I
- 8:36love
- 8:36that
- 8:37definition.
- 8:38Right.
- 8:39In
- 8:40everyday
- 8:42practical,
- 8:43hey,
- 8:44let's
- 8:44do
- 8:45this.
- 8:45What
- 8:45would
- 8:45it
- 8:45look
- 8:46like?
- 8:47I
- 8:48think
- 8:48it's
- 8:48really
- 8:48about
- 8:49finding
- 8:49your
- 8:50people.
- 8:51In
- 8:51order
- 8:51to
- 8:52do
- 8:52that,
- 8:52it's
- 8:53very
- 8:53difficult
- 8:53to
- 8:54be
- 8:54a
- 8:55lone
- 8:56transformational
- 8:57leader.
- 9:00You
- 9:00have
- 9:00to
- 9:00have
- 9:01other
- 9:01folks
- 9:02who
- 9:02are
- 9:03willing
- 9:03to
- 9:03take
- 9:03this
- 9:03particular
- 9:04ride
- 9:05with
- 9:05you.
- 9:05You
- 9:06have
- 9:06to
- 9:06build
- 9:06that
- 9:07trust
- 9:08with
- 9:08them.
- 9:08And
- 9:09so
- 9:09a
- 9:10quick
- 9:10example
- 9:11would
- 9:11be
- 9:12I'm
- 9:13currently
- 9:13doing
- 9:13a
- 9:13project
- 9:14at
- 9:14work
- 9:15where
- 9:16I'm
- 9:17being
- 9:17asked
- 9:17to
- 9:17lead
- 9:19a
- 9:20phenomenal
- 9:20project
- 9:21that
- 9:21has
- 9:21never
- 9:22been
- 9:23attempted
- 9:24in
- 9:25the
- 9:25state
- 9:25of
- 9:25Texas
- 9:25yet,
- 9:26which
- 9:27is
- 9:27to
- 9:28create
- 9:28an
- 9:29educational
- 9:30preparation
- 9:31program
- 9:32at
- 9:32a
- 9:33charter
- 9:33school
- 9:34that
- 9:35goes
- 9:35beyond
- 9:35teacher
- 9:35certification.
- 9:38And
- 9:39the
- 9:39only
- 9:39way
- 9:40that
- 9:40that's
- 9:40going
- 9:40to
- 9:40be
- 9:41possible
- 9:42is
- 9:42if
- 9:42I
- 9:42can
- 9:43leverage
- 9:43my
- 9:44social
- 9:48capital,
- 9:48I
- 9:49guess
- 9:49my
- 9:49social
- 9:49capital
- 9:50in
- 9:51order
- 9:51to
- 9:52move
- 9:52this
- 9:53project
- 9:53along.
- 9:54I
- 9:54have
- 9:54a
- 9:54zero
- 9:54dollar
- 9:55budget,
- 9:56of
- 9:56course.
- 9:57Of
- 9:57course,
- 9:57yeah.
- 9:58A
- 9:58zero
- 9:58dollar
- 9:59operating
- 9:59budget.
- 10:00And
- 10:00yet
- 10:00I've
- 10:01been
- 10:01able
- 10:01to
- 10:02gather
- 10:02people
- 10:03around
- 10:03me
- 10:05who
- 10:05are
- 10:05excellent
- 10:06subject
- 10:06matter
- 10:06experts
- 10:07in
- 10:07order
- 10:08to
- 10:08help
- 10:08me
- 10:09create
- 10:10something
- 10:10from
- 10:11literally
- 10:12nothing.
- 10:13And
- 10:13I
- 10:13think
- 10:13that's
- 10:14we
- 10:14find
- 10:14ourselves
- 10:14in
- 10:15those
- 10:15situations
- 10:15quite
- 10:16often
- 10:17as
- 10:17leaders
- 10:18is
- 10:18you're
- 10:19being
- 10:19asked
- 10:19to
- 10:19do
- 10:20what
- 10:20initially
- 10:21looks
- 10:21like
- 10:21the
- 10:21impossible.
- 10:23And
- 10:24the
- 10:24only
- 10:25way
- 10:25that
- 10:25you're
- 10:26going
- 10:26to
- 10:27get
- 10:28there
- 10:28is
- 10:29say,
- 10:29all
- 10:29right,
- 10:30who's
- 10:30with
- 10:30me?
- 10:31Who's
- 10:31with
- 10:31me?
- 10:31This
- 10:32is
- 10:32going
- 10:32to
- 10:32be
- 10:32a
- 10:32crazy
- 10:33ride.
- 10:33We're
- 10:33going
- 10:34to
- 10:34be
- 10:34frustrated
- 10:34at
- 10:35times,
- 10:35we're
- 10:36going
- 10:36to
- 10:36find
- 10:36resistance
- 10:37in
- 10:37different
- 10:37pockets,
- 10:38but
- 10:39we're
- 10:39going
- 10:39to
- 10:39get
- 10:39there.
- 10:39And
- 10:40the
- 10:40only
- 10:40way
- 10:40we're
- 10:40going
- 10:40to
- 10:40get
- 10:41there
- 10:41is
- 10:41together.
- 10:42And
- 10:42in
- 10:43your
- 10:44current
- 10:44position,
- 10:46there
- 10:47are
- 10:47a
- 10:47lot
- 10:47of
- 10:47people.
- 10:48Right.
- 10:48Your
- 10:49organization
- 10:49is
- 10:50quite
- 10:51large.
- 10:52So
- 10:52how
- 10:52many
- 10:53thousand
- 10:53people?
- 10:54Yeah,
- 10:545,000
- 10:55people.
- 10:56So,
- 10:56Terry,
- 10:57how
- 10:57do
- 10:57you
- 10:57find
- 10:57your
- 10:58people?
- 10:59Oddly
- 10:59enough,
- 11:00you
- 11:00know,
- 11:00organizations
- 11:02as
- 11:02big
- 11:03as
- 11:03ours
- 11:03and
- 11:03as
- 11:04spread
- 11:04out
- 11:04as
- 11:04ours
- 11:05is,
- 11:05we
- 11:05have
- 11:055,000
- 11:06people
- 11:06across
- 11:06the
- 11:06state
- 11:07of
- 11:07Texas.
- 11:08So
- 11:08we'll
- 11:08have
- 11:08one
- 11:09campus
- 11:09that's
- 11:09out
- 11:10in
- 11:10El
- 11:10Paso
- 11:11and
- 11:11another
- 11:11one
- 11:11that's
- 11:12out
- 11:12in
- 11:12Beaumont.
- 11:13It's
- 11:13817
- 11:14miles
- 11:15between
- 11:15two
- 11:15campuses
- 11:18and
- 11:19the
- 11:19two
- 11:20regions,
- 11:21the
- 11:21two
- 11:21geographic
- 11:22regions
- 11:22couldn't
- 11:22be
- 11:22farther
- 11:23from
- 11:25each
- 11:25other.
- 11:26But
- 11:26it's
- 11:27really
- 11:27about
- 11:27looking
- 11:28for
- 11:28common
- 11:28ground.
- 11:29When
- 11:29you
- 11:29find
- 11:29these
- 11:29people,
- 11:30it's
- 11:31about
- 11:32you're
- 11:33going
- 11:33to
- 11:33see
- 11:33the
- 11:33same
- 11:33people
- 11:34in
- 11:34the
- 11:34same
- 11:34circles.
- 11:35Often.
- 11:37For
- 11:37me,
- 11:38I
- 11:38worked
- 11:39a
- 11:39lot
- 11:39with
- 11:39leaders
- 11:40and
- 11:41campus
- 11:41leaders
- 11:42and
- 11:42district
- 11:42leaders
- 11:43and
- 11:43for
- 11:44us,
- 11:44the
- 11:44central
- 11:44office
- 11:45leaders.
- 11:46So
- 11:46really
- 11:46kind
- 11:47of
- 11:47getting
- 11:48to
- 11:48know
- 11:48people
- 11:49in
- 11:49those
- 11:50different
- 11:51circles
- 11:51and
- 11:52being
- 11:52able
- 11:52to
- 11:53bring
- 11:54them
- 11:54together.
- 11:55Right.
- 11:56So
- 11:56very
- 11:57often
- 11:57a
- 11:58leader
- 11:58in
- 11:58West
- 11:58Texas
- 11:59is
- 11:59not
- 11:59going
- 11:59to
- 12:00talk
- 12:00to
- 12:00another
- 12:00leader
- 12:00out
- 12:01in
- 12:01Beaumont.
- 12:02But
- 12:02if
- 12:03you're
- 12:03the
- 12:03common
- 12:03denominator
- 12:05and
- 12:05bring
- 12:05them
- 12:06together
- 12:06in
- 12:06one
- 12:07virtual
- 12:08room
- 12:09for
- 12:09me,
- 12:11then
- 12:11you
- 12:11start
- 12:12talking
- 12:12about
- 12:12the
- 12:12different,
- 12:13you
- 12:13know,
- 12:13you.
- 12:13You
- 12:14kind
- 12:14of
- 12:15what
- 12:15we're
- 12:15doing
- 12:15here,
- 12:16you
- 12:16drop
- 12:16a
- 12:16little
- 12:17question
- 12:18and
- 12:18hey,
- 12:19you
- 12:19know,
- 12:21discuss
- 12:22and
- 12:22you.
- 12:23And
- 12:23you
- 12:24facilitate
- 12:25that
- 12:25discussion,
- 12:26Right.
- 12:27You
- 12:27ensure
- 12:27that
- 12:27there's
- 12:28mutual
- 12:29respect,
- 12:29mutual
- 12:30trust.
- 12:31And
- 12:32quite
- 12:32frankly,
- 12:33oftentimes
- 12:33with
- 12:34that,
- 12:35with
- 12:35these
- 12:35groups
- 12:35that
- 12:35I
- 12:35work
- 12:36with,
- 12:37we're
- 12:37in
- 12:37virtual
- 12:38settings.
- 12:39My
- 12:40rule
- 12:41is
- 12:41don't
- 12:41record.
- 12:42Try
- 12:42to
- 12:43be
- 12:43as
- 12:43much
- 12:43in
- 12:44the
- 12:44present
- 12:44moment
- 12:45as
- 12:45you
- 12:46possibly
- 12:46can.
- 12:47When
- 12:47you
- 12:47do
- 12:48that,
- 12:49when
- 12:49you
- 12:49off
- 12:49the
- 12:50bat,
- 12:50say,
- 12:50I
- 12:50don't
- 12:51record
- 12:51our
- 12:51meetings
- 12:52together,
- 12:53there's
- 12:53a
- 12:53sense
- 12:54of
- 12:55trust
- 12:56that's
- 12:57there.
- 12:57And
- 12:58people
- 12:58can
- 12:58be
- 12:58a
- 12:59lot
- 12:59more
- 12:59vulnerable
- 13:00with
- 13:00you.
- 13:01They
- 13:01can
- 13:02be
- 13:02certainly
- 13:03authentic
- 13:03with
- 13:04you.
- 13:05You
- 13:05create
- 13:05this
- 13:06environment
- 13:06where
- 13:07people
- 13:07can
- 13:07be
- 13:08their
- 13:08whole
- 13:08selves,
- 13:11you're
- 13:11going
- 13:11to
- 13:12find
- 13:13that
- 13:13that
- 13:14network
- 13:15gets
- 13:15bigger
- 13:15and
- 13:15bigger
- 13:16because
- 13:16they
- 13:16start
- 13:16talking
- 13:17to
- 13:17each
- 13:17other
- 13:17and
- 13:18saying,
- 13:18you
- 13:18know
- 13:18what?
- 13:18This
- 13:19Terry
- 13:19lady,
- 13:20you
- 13:21know,
- 13:21she's
- 13:22quirky,
- 13:23but
- 13:23she
- 13:23can
- 13:23be
- 13:24trusted.
- 13:25And
- 13:25that's
- 13:26all.
- 13:27All
- 13:27I
- 13:27really
- 13:27try
- 13:28to
- 13:28do,
- 13:29even
- 13:29with
- 13:295,000
- 13:30people.
- 13:30It's
- 13:31about
- 13:31creating
- 13:32an
- 13:32organization
- 13:33that
- 13:33has
- 13:33a
- 13:34safe
- 13:34space
- 13:34where
- 13:34you
- 13:34can
- 13:35be
- 13:35trusted
- 13:36and
- 13:36trust
- 13:37others.
- 13:38It
- 13:38sounds
- 13:38a
- 13:38lot
- 13:39like
- 13:40this
- 13:40humanizing
- 13:41approach
- 13:42to
- 13:42education.
- 13:44Everything
- 13:44that
- 13:45we've
- 13:46been
- 13:46discussing
- 13:48throughout
- 13:48this
- 13:49season,
- 13:50really
- 13:51thinking
- 13:51about,
- 13:52how
- 13:52do
- 13:52you
- 13:52humanize
- 13:55education
- 13:56in
- 13:56a
- 13:56way
- 13:57that
- 13:57allows
- 13:57for
- 13:58transformational
- 13:59change?
- 14:00And
- 14:00that's
- 14:00what
- 14:01I'm
- 14:01hearing
- 14:01from
- 14:02your
- 14:02approach
- 14:03and
- 14:03what
- 14:03you're
- 14:03doing.
- 14:05Yeah,
- 14:05I
- 14:06mean,
- 14:06a
- 14:06Lot
- 14:06of
- 14:07what
- 14:07could
- 14:07be
- 14:08done
- 14:09in
- 14:09an
- 14:09organization
- 14:10of
- 14:105,000
- 14:10is
- 14:10a
- 14:11lot
- 14:11of
- 14:11compliance
- 14:11work.
- 14:13And
- 14:14my
- 14:14goal
- 14:15is
- 14:15quality
- 14:16work
- 14:17because
- 14:18our
- 14:18clients,
- 14:19our
- 14:19students,
- 14:20deserve
- 14:20nothing
- 14:21less.
- 14:22Is
- 14:22it
- 14:22safe
- 14:23to
- 14:23say
- 14:23that
- 14:24in
- 14:24your
- 14:24view
- 14:25of
- 14:25transformational
- 14:26leadership,
- 14:27that
- 14:29we
- 14:29value
- 14:30people
- 14:32over
- 14:33the
- 14:33process?
- 14:34That's
- 14:34a
- 14:34very
- 14:35safe
- 14:35assumption.
- 14:36When
- 14:37you
- 14:37elevate
- 14:38people,
- 14:39your
- 14:40process
- 14:40will
- 14:40go
- 14:41a
- 14:41lot
- 14:41smoother.
- 14:42If
- 14:43you
- 14:43do
- 14:43it
- 14:43the
- 14:43other
- 14:43way
- 14:44around,
- 14:44it
- 14:44becomes
- 14:44a
- 14:44lot
- 14:44more
- 14:46transactional,
- 14:48compliance
- 14:49driven,
- 14:50and
- 14:51no
- 14:51one's
- 14:52heart
- 14:52is
- 14:52going
- 14:53to
- 14:53be
- 14:53in
- 14:53it.
- 14:54You
- 14:54wouldn't
- 14:54be
- 14:54able
- 14:55to
- 14:55work
- 14:55on
- 14:55a
- 14:56$0
- 14:56operating
- 14:57budget
- 14:57and
- 14:58still
- 14:58get
- 14:59any
- 14:59traction.
- 15:01It's
- 15:01literally
- 15:01the
- 15:02social
- 15:02capital
- 15:03that
- 15:03you're
- 15:03creating
- 15:04by
- 15:05honoring
- 15:05others.
- 15:07They
- 15:07will
- 15:07then
- 15:08do
- 15:08for
- 15:08you
- 15:09when
- 15:09you
- 15:09have
- 15:10a
- 15:10call
- 15:10to
- 15:10action.
- 15:12So
- 15:12this
- 15:12is
- 15:12a
- 15:13really
- 15:13interesting
- 15:13paradox,
- 15:14and
- 15:14I
- 15:14want
- 15:14to
- 15:14just
- 15:14throw
- 15:15it
- 15:15out
- 15:15there
- 15:15for
- 15:15a
- 15:15moment,
- 15:16because
- 15:16it's
- 15:16like,
- 15:17you
- 15:18know,
- 15:18if
- 15:19in
- 15:19Terry's
- 15:20world,
- 15:20which
- 15:20is
- 15:21a
- 15:21great
- 15:21place
- 15:21to
- 15:21be,
- 15:21right?
- 15:22It's
- 15:22a
- 15:22great
- 15:22place
- 15:22to
- 15:23be
- 15:24this
- 15:24transformational
- 15:25leader,
- 15:26right?
- 15:26It
- 15:27values
- 15:28people
- 15:28over
- 15:29processes
- 15:31because
- 15:31that's
- 15:31how
- 15:31we
- 15:32get
- 15:32things
- 15:32done.
- 15:33And
- 15:33a
- 15:33transformational
- 15:34leader
- 15:35goes
- 15:35places
- 15:36where
- 15:37no
- 15:37one
- 15:38has
- 15:38gone
- 15:38before
- 15:39in
- 15:39many
- 15:40instances.
- 15:41And
- 15:41yet
- 15:41we're
- 15:42immersed.
- 15:43We're
- 15:43immersed
- 15:44in
- 15:45a
- 15:45system
- 15:47that
- 15:47values
- 15:49the
- 15:49status
- 15:50quo,
- 15:52test
- 15:52scores,
- 15:54all
- 15:54these
- 15:54other
- 15:55things,
- 15:56over
- 15:56students
- 15:58and
- 15:58students
- 15:59lives,
- 15:59right?
- 16:00Test
- 16:00scores
- 16:01driving
- 16:02everything,
- 16:03right?
- 16:03Looking
- 16:04at
- 16:04children
- 16:04from
- 16:05a
- 16:05deficit
- 16:05lens
- 16:06because
- 16:07they're
- 16:07two
- 16:08standard
- 16:08deviations
- 16:09away
- 16:09from
- 16:09where
- 16:09they
- 16:10should
- 16:10be.
- 16:10Because
- 16:11it's
- 16:12November
- 16:1213th,
- 16:13right?
- 16:14So
- 16:16when
- 16:16a
- 16:16transformational
- 16:17leader
- 16:17sees
- 16:18that
- 16:19awkward
- 16:22clash
- 16:23between
- 16:25the
- 16:26transactional
- 16:26herding
- 16:27nature
- 16:27of
- 16:27schools
- 16:28and
- 16:29this
- 16:30value
- 16:30and
- 16:30belief
- 16:31that
- 16:31we
- 16:32value
- 16:32people,
- 16:33that
- 16:33would
- 16:33be
- 16:33students,
- 16:34too,
- 16:36over.
- 16:37Over
- 16:37tasks,
- 16:38over
- 16:38processes,
- 16:39over
- 16:40products.
- 16:41What
- 16:42is
- 16:42a
- 16:42transformational
- 16:43leader?
- 16:44How
- 16:44do
- 16:44you
- 16:44hope
- 16:45transformational
- 16:46leaders
- 16:46respond
- 16:47when
- 16:48they
- 16:48see
- 16:48that
- 16:49clash?
- 16:50Yeah,
- 16:51that's
- 16:52a
- 16:52great
- 16:52question.
- 16:53When
- 16:53I
- 16:53speak
- 16:53to
- 16:54leaders
- 16:55in
- 16:55my
- 16:56organization,
- 16:59that's
- 16:59a
- 17:00huge
- 17:00hurdle
- 17:02for
- 17:02many
- 17:02of
- 17:02them.
- 17:03I
- 17:03mean,
- 17:03there's
- 17:04the
- 17:04personal
- 17:05hurdles,
- 17:05right?
- 17:06Time
- 17:06management,
- 17:06et
- 17:07cetera.
- 17:07But
- 17:08the
- 17:08biggest
- 17:08hurdle
- 17:09is
- 17:09I'm
- 17:09trying
- 17:09to
- 17:10do
- 17:10right
- 17:10by
- 17:10kids,
- 17:11and
- 17:11it
- 17:12just
- 17:12feels
- 17:12like
- 17:12the
- 17:13system
- 17:14isn't
- 17:15allowing
- 17:15me
- 17:15to
- 17:15do
- 17:16so.
- 17:17And
- 17:18one
- 17:18of
- 17:18the
- 17:18things
- 17:18I
- 17:18tell
- 17:19them
- 17:19is,
- 17:20don't
- 17:20throw
- 17:21the
- 17:21baby
- 17:21out
- 17:21with
- 17:21the
- 17:21bathwater.
- 17:22There
- 17:22are
- 17:23some
- 17:23pieces
- 17:24that
- 17:24transactional
- 17:25leadership
- 17:26can
- 17:26give
- 17:26you
- 17:27that
- 17:27are
- 17:27actually
- 17:28useful.
- 17:29For
- 17:29example,
- 17:30the
- 17:30contingent
- 17:31reward
- 17:31idea,
- 17:32this
- 17:32idea
- 17:32that
- 17:32there
- 17:33is
- 17:33supposed
- 17:34to
- 17:34be
- 17:34role
- 17:34clarity.
- 17:36When
- 17:36you
- 17:36have
- 17:37role
- 17:37clarity,
- 17:39you
- 17:40know,
- 17:40if
- 17:40you
- 17:40do
- 17:40A,
- 17:41then
- 17:42B,
- 17:42this
- 17:42cause
- 17:43and
- 17:43effect
- 17:44will
- 17:44happen
- 17:44with
- 17:45role
- 17:45clarity.
- 17:46That's
- 17:47kindness,
- 17:48right?
- 17:48I
- 17:49expect
- 17:49to
- 17:49you
- 17:49as
- 17:49a
- 17:49teacher,
- 17:50these
- 17:50are
- 17:50my
- 17:51Expectations.
- 17:51And
- 17:52this
- 17:52is
- 17:52what
- 17:52happens
- 17:52when
- 17:53we
- 17:53meet
- 17:53them.
- 17:54I
- 17:54expect
- 17:54you
- 17:55as
- 17:55a
- 17:55student,
- 17:56these
- 17:56are
- 17:56our
- 17:56expectations.
- 17:57This
- 17:57is
- 17:57what
- 17:57will
- 17:58happen
- 17:58when
- 17:58you
- 17:58meet
- 17:58them.
- 17:59So
- 17:59there's
- 18:00some
- 18:01tiny
- 18:01pieces
- 18:02of
- 18:02transactional,
- 18:03I
- 18:03mean,
- 18:04yeah,
- 18:04transactional
- 18:05leadership
- 18:05that
- 18:06can
- 18:06be
- 18:06in
- 18:06play,
- 18:08because
- 18:08those
- 18:09pieces,
- 18:09that
- 18:09role
- 18:10clarity,
- 18:10that
- 18:10contingent
- 18:11reward,
- 18:12goes
- 18:12back
- 18:13to
- 18:13how
- 18:14you're
- 18:14going
- 18:14to
- 18:15enact
- 18:16transformational
- 18:17leadership,
- 18:18right?
- 18:19So
- 18:19if
- 18:20I
- 18:20know
- 18:20that
- 18:20you
- 18:21as
- 18:21a
- 18:21teacher,
- 18:21these
- 18:21are
- 18:21my
- 18:22expectations
- 18:22of
- 18:22you,
- 18:25how
- 18:25do
- 18:25I
- 18:25motivate
- 18:26you
- 18:26to
- 18:26meet
- 18:27them
- 18:27and
- 18:27go
- 18:27beyond.
- 18:29If
- 18:29these
- 18:29are
- 18:29my
- 18:30expectations
- 18:30of
- 18:30you
- 18:31as
- 18:31a
- 18:31student,
- 18:32how
- 18:32do
- 18:32I
- 18:33motivate
- 18:33you
- 18:33to
- 18:34meet
- 18:34those
- 18:35and
- 18:35go
- 18:35far
- 18:36beyond
- 18:36them?
- 18:37And
- 18:37that
- 18:38is
- 18:38where
- 18:39that
- 18:39whole,
- 18:40you
- 18:40know,
- 18:41system
- 18:42can
- 18:42be
- 18:44rigged
- 18:45in
- 18:45your
- 18:46favor
- 18:47as
- 18:47a
- 18:47transformational
- 18:48leader.
- 18:49Because
- 18:49if
- 18:49you're
- 18:49able
- 18:49to
- 18:50say,
- 18:51this
- 18:51is
- 18:51clarity
- 18:52around
- 18:52what
- 18:53we're
- 18:53tasked
- 18:54to
- 18:54do,
- 18:56I
- 18:57can
- 18:57help
- 18:57you
- 18:57guys
- 18:58get
- 18:58there.
- 19:00And
- 19:00so
- 19:00that
- 19:01juxtaposition
- 19:02is
- 19:02just
- 19:03context.
- 19:04We're
- 19:04all
- 19:04going
- 19:05to
- 19:05find
- 19:05that.
- 19:06So
- 19:07find
- 19:07the
- 19:07good
- 19:07pieces
- 19:08that's
- 19:09there
- 19:10and
- 19:12maximize
- 19:12those
- 19:13with
- 19:14the
- 19:14pieces.
- 19:14You're
- 19:15bringing
- 19:15in
- 19:15personally
- 19:16of
- 19:16your
- 19:16philosophy
- 19:17with
- 19:17regards
- 19:17to
- 19:17transformation.
- 19:19So
- 19:19I
- 19:19hear
- 19:20you
- 19:20saying
- 19:20we
- 19:20have
- 19:21to
- 19:21use
- 19:21the
- 19:21gifts
- 19:21in
- 19:22the
- 19:22space.
- 19:22So
- 19:23in
- 19:23order
- 19:23to
- 19:23use
- 19:23the
- 19:23gifts
- 19:24in
- 19:24the
- 19:24space,
- 19:24we
- 19:24have
- 19:25to
- 19:25have
- 19:25human
- 19:25connections
- 19:26and
- 19:26know
- 19:27what
- 19:27those
- 19:27gifts
- 19:27are,
- 19:28right?
- 19:29So
- 19:29how
- 19:30do
- 19:30we
- 19:30come
- 19:30about
- 19:31that
- 19:31communicative
- 19:32action
- 19:32and
- 19:33that,
- 19:33that,
- 19:33that
- 19:34really
- 19:34courageous
- 19:34conversation
- 19:35where
- 19:36everyone
- 19:36feels
- 19:37welcome,
- 19:38safe,
- 19:39and
- 19:39trusting
- 19:40enough
- 19:40to
- 19:40really
- 19:41reveal
- 19:41their
- 19:41gifts?
- 19:43A
- 19:43big
- 19:43piece
- 19:44of
- 19:44it
- 19:44is
- 19:44being
- 19:44authentic.
- 19:46And
- 19:47really,
- 19:48it
- 19:49goes
- 19:49beyond
- 19:49that
- 19:49golden
- 19:50rule,
- 19:50right?
- 19:51It's
- 19:52not,
- 19:52you
- 19:53know,
- 19:53treat
- 19:53others
- 19:53as
- 19:53you
- 19:54would
- 19:54want
- 19:54them
- 19:54to
- 19:54be
- 19:54treated,
- 19:55how
- 19:56you
- 19:56would
- 19:56want
- 19:56to
- 19:56be
- 19:56treated.
- 19:57It's
- 19:57treat
- 19:58others
- 19:58the
- 19:58way
- 19:58they
- 19:59deserve
- 19:59to
- 19:59be
- 19:59treated,
- 20:00with
- 20:01dignity,
- 20:01with
- 20:02respect,
- 20:03with
- 20:04honor.
- 20:05We're
- 20:05only
- 20:06on
- 20:06this
- 20:06planet
- 20:06for
- 20:06a
- 20:07short
- 20:07time,
- 20:07so
- 20:08if
- 20:08you
- 20:09understand
- 20:09that
- 20:09the
- 20:10time
- 20:10that
- 20:10we
- 20:10have
- 20:10together
- 20:11has
- 20:11to
- 20:12be
- 20:12precious,
- 20:13then
- 20:13you
- 20:13can
- 20:14start
- 20:14making
- 20:14a
- 20:14safe
- 20:14space
- 20:15with
- 20:15other
- 20:15people.
- 20:17You
- 20:17know,
- 20:17I
- 20:17was
- 20:17listening
- 20:18to
- 20:18and
- 20:18I
- 20:18was
- 20:18trying,
- 20:19I
- 20:19wanted
- 20:19to
- 20:20include
- 20:20this
- 20:20in
- 20:20the
- 20:20conversation
- 20:21today,
- 20:21and
- 20:22I've
- 20:22been
- 20:22desperately
- 20:22trying
- 20:23to
- 20:23figure
- 20:23out
- 20:23who
- 20:23said
- 20:24it.
- 20:24Last
- 20:25night
- 20:25I
- 20:25was
- 20:25in
- 20:25my
- 20:26car
- 20:26driving
- 20:26home
- 20:27and
- 20:27Ari
- 20:28Melber
- 20:29was
- 20:29on
- 20:29MSNBC
- 20:30and
- 20:31he
- 20:31was
- 20:32interviewing
- 20:32an
- 20:32actor.
- 20:33But
- 20:33I
- 20:33caught,
- 20:34like,
- 20:34the
- 20:34last
- 20:34part
- 20:35of
- 20:35the
- 20:35conversation,
- 20:36and
- 20:36I've
- 20:36been
- 20:37googling,
- 20:37trying
- 20:37to
- 20:37figure
- 20:38out
- 20:38who
- 20:38it
- 20:38was,
- 20:38and
- 20:38I
- 20:38can't
- 20:39find
- 20:39him
- 20:39yet.
- 20:40It
- 20:40was
- 20:40some,
- 20:40you
- 20:41know,
- 20:41a
- 20:41male
- 20:41actor,
- 20:42and
- 20:42they
- 20:42were
- 20:42talking
- 20:43about
- 20:43a
- 20:43lot
- 20:43of
- 20:43different
- 20:43things.
- 20:44But,
- 20:44you
- 20:45know,
- 20:45the
- 20:46part
- 20:46of
- 20:46the
- 20:46conversation
- 20:46that
- 20:46I
- 20:47caught,
- 20:47so
- 20:47it's
- 20:47completely
- 20:48out
- 20:48of
- 20:48context.
- 20:48All
- 20:49I
- 20:49can
- 20:49just
- 20:49Share
- 20:50with
- 20:50you
- 20:50what
- 20:50was
- 20:50said,
- 20:51because
- 20:51I
- 20:51thought
- 20:51it
- 20:51was
- 20:51so
- 20:52cool.
- 20:52And
- 20:53he
- 20:53said.
- 20:55He
- 20:56said,
- 20:56you
- 20:56know,
- 20:57it's
- 20:57the
- 20:57difference
- 20:58between
- 20:59what
- 20:59we're
- 20:59seeing
- 21:00in
- 21:00the
- 21:00world,
- 21:00Right.
- 21:01Because
- 21:01he's
- 21:01going
- 21:01to
- 21:01be
- 21:02in
- 21:02some
- 21:02movie
- 21:02that,
- 21:02you
- 21:03know,
- 21:03is,
- 21:03you
- 21:03know,
- 21:04political.
- 21:04He
- 21:04goes,
- 21:05but
- 21:05what
- 21:05we're
- 21:05seeing
- 21:06is.
- 21:06Is
- 21:08people
- 21:09deciding.
- 21:10People
- 21:10deciding
- 21:11whether
- 21:11they
- 21:11want
- 21:11to
- 21:11embrace
- 21:12love
- 21:12or
- 21:12hate.
- 21:13And
- 21:13I
- 21:13was
- 21:13like,
- 21:14oh,
- 21:14okay,
- 21:14I've
- 21:14heard
- 21:14that
- 21:14before.
- 21:15Right,
- 21:15okay.
- 21:16But
- 21:16then
- 21:16he
- 21:16said.
- 21:17He
- 21:17goes,
- 21:17but
- 21:18hate's
- 21:18the
- 21:18easy
- 21:18one.
- 21:19He
- 21:19goes,
- 21:20it's
- 21:20super
- 21:20easy
- 21:21to
- 21:21hate.
- 21:22He
- 21:23goes,
- 21:23it
- 21:23takes
- 21:24a
- 21:24lot
- 21:24more
- 21:24time
- 21:26and
- 21:26a
- 21:26lot
- 21:26more
- 21:26energy
- 21:28to
- 21:29love.
- 21:30And
- 21:30I
- 21:30was
- 21:31like,
- 21:31okay,
- 21:31now
- 21:31you're
- 21:31onto
- 21:32something.
- 21:32I
- 21:32like
- 21:32that.
- 21:32Right.
- 21:33And
- 21:33he
- 21:33goes,
- 21:33but
- 21:33we're
- 21:34all.
- 21:34He
- 21:34goes,
- 21:34we're
- 21:35all
- 21:35too
- 21:35focused
- 21:35on
- 21:35what
- 21:36we
- 21:36want.
- 21:36And
- 21:37if
- 21:37we're
- 21:37only.
- 21:37If
- 21:38we're
- 21:38only
- 21:38concerned
- 21:38about
- 21:39what
- 21:39we
- 21:39want,
- 21:39then
- 21:39we
- 21:40live
- 21:40in
- 21:40the
- 21:40world
- 21:40of
- 21:40hate
- 21:41because,
- 21:41you
- 21:41know,
- 21:41everybody
- 21:42else
- 21:42is
- 21:42going
- 21:42to
- 21:43keep
- 21:43us
- 21:43from
- 21:43getting
- 21:43it.
- 21:44Right.
- 21:44Versus
- 21:45sometimes
- 21:45you
- 21:45have
- 21:45to
- 21:46give.
- 21:46You
- 21:46have
- 21:46to
- 21:46let
- 21:46that
- 21:47go.
- 21:47And
- 21:47if
- 21:48you're
- 21:48going
- 21:48to
- 21:48concentrate
- 21:48on
- 21:49love.
- 21:49And
- 21:49it
- 21:49is
- 21:49kind
- 21:49of.
- 21:50Kind
- 21:50of
- 21:50tying
- 21:50into
- 21:51what
- 21:51you
- 21:51just
- 21:51said.
- 21:51Right.
- 21:52I
- 21:52thought
- 21:52it
- 21:52was.
- 21:52I
- 21:53thought
- 21:53it
- 21:53was
- 21:53a
- 21:53really
- 21:53interesting.
- 21:54Again,
- 21:54I.
- 21:55Sorry.
- 21:55That
- 21:55I
- 21:55can't
- 21:56remember
- 21:56who
- 21:57or,
- 21:57you
- 21:57know,
- 21:57I
- 21:57don't
- 21:58know
- 21:58who
- 21:58that
- 21:58actor
- 21:58was
- 21:59who
- 21:59was.
- 22:00I've
- 22:00looked
- 22:00for
- 22:00it,
- 22:00but
- 22:00I
- 22:01thought
- 22:01it
- 22:01was
- 22:01a
- 22:01really
- 22:01interesting
- 22:01idea.
- 22:02What
- 22:02do
- 22:02you
- 22:02think
- 22:02of
- 22:02that?
- 22:03It's
- 22:03a
- 22:03great
- 22:03metaphor
- 22:04for
- 22:04the
- 22:04difference
- 22:05between
- 22:05transactional
- 22:06leadership
- 22:07and
- 22:07transformational
- 22:07leadership.
- 22:08Oh,
- 22:08that's.
- 22:08One
- 22:09is.
- 22:09Oh,
- 22:10that's.
- 22:10One
- 22:10is
- 22:10a
- 22:11lot
- 22:11more
- 22:11difficult
- 22:11to
- 22:12complete
- 22:13than
- 22:13the
- 22:13other.
- 22:14I
- 22:14wouldn't
- 22:14use
- 22:15the
- 22:15word
- 22:15hate.
- 22:15I
- 22:15would
- 22:15be
- 22:16love
- 22:16versus
- 22:16not
- 22:17love.
- 22:18Right.
- 22:18To
- 22:19know
- 22:19Terry
- 22:19means.
- 22:20To
- 22:20know
- 22:20Terry
- 22:20knows
- 22:21that
- 22:21she
- 22:21doesn't
- 22:21live
- 22:22in
- 22:22the
- 22:23world
- 22:23of
- 22:23something
- 22:23that
- 22:24dark.
- 22:24Right.
- 22:25Really,
- 22:26I
- 22:26don't.
- 22:27It's
- 22:27such
- 22:27a
- 22:27strong
- 22:28word,
- 22:28and
- 22:28that's
- 22:29just
- 22:29reserved
- 22:29for
- 22:30very
- 22:30exceptional
- 22:31reasons.
- 22:32Right.
- 22:34Don't
- 22:35get
- 22:35me
- 22:35wrong.
- 22:35I've
- 22:35used
- 22:36it
- 22:36like,
- 22:36you
- 22:36know,
- 22:37but
- 22:37really,
- 22:37it's
- 22:37a
- 22:38great
- 22:38metaphor
- 22:38for
- 22:39the
- 22:39amount
- 22:40of
- 22:40effort
- 22:41you're
- 22:41going
- 22:41to
- 22:41put
- 22:41in
- 22:42to
- 22:42see
- 22:42a
- 22:43result.
- 22:43To
- 22:44love
- 22:44means
- 22:45you
- 22:45have
- 22:45to
- 22:45be
- 22:45empathetic,
- 22:46means
- 22:47to
- 22:47know,
- 22:47you
- 22:48know,
- 22:48have.
- 22:48Be
- 22:49in
- 22:49touch
- 22:49with
- 22:49your
- 22:49emotional
- 22:50intelligence
- 22:51means
- 22:52that
- 22:52you've
- 22:53got
- 22:53to
- 22:53be
- 22:53graceful
- 22:55and
- 22:55that,
- 22:55you
- 22:55know,
- 22:56giving
- 22:56grace
- 22:56to
- 22:57others
- 22:58and
- 22:59being
- 22:59a
- 23:00lot
- 23:00more
- 23:00understanding
- 23:01and
- 23:01perhaps
- 23:02not
- 23:02getting
- 23:02exactly
- 23:03what
- 23:03you
- 23:03want
- 23:03at
- 23:04the
- 23:04time
- 23:04when
- 23:04you
- 23:05want
- 23:05it,
- 23:05but
- 23:06knowing
- 23:06what
- 23:06you
- 23:06need
- 23:07and
- 23:07what
- 23:07others
- 23:08may
- 23:09need
- 23:09as
- 23:09well,
- 23:09caring
- 23:10enough
- 23:10to
- 23:10know
- 23:10what
- 23:11others
- 23:11need
- 23:11on
- 23:12the
- 23:12transactional
- 23:13side,
- 23:13the
- 23:13not
- 23:13love
- 23:14side.
- 23:14To
- 23:14that
- 23:15actor's
- 23:15point,
- 23:16you're
- 23:16so
- 23:16deep
- 23:17in
- 23:17the
- 23:17trenches
- 23:17of
- 23:18what
- 23:18you
- 23:18want,
- 23:19you
- 23:19don't
- 23:19care
- 23:19about
- 23:19what
- 23:20other
- 23:20people.
- 23:21Need
- 23:21and
- 23:22you
- 23:22don't
- 23:22see
- 23:22value
- 23:22in
- 23:22those
- 23:23other
- 23:23people
- 23:23by
- 23:24default.
- 23:25You
- 23:25see
- 23:26them
- 23:26as
- 23:26an
- 23:26obstacle.
- 23:27It's
- 23:27real,
- 23:28Machiavellian,
- 23:29right?
- 23:29So
- 23:30when
- 23:30you're
- 23:31talking
- 23:31about
- 23:33not
- 23:33love,
- 23:34right?
- 23:35And
- 23:35then
- 23:35you
- 23:36add
- 23:36competition,
- 23:38it
- 23:38becomes
- 23:39this,
- 23:40this
- 23:40self
- 23:40righteousness
- 23:42that
- 23:42really
- 23:43hones
- 23:44this
- 23:45insulated
- 23:46view
- 23:46that
- 23:47my
- 23:47mental
- 23:47model,
- 23:48my
- 23:48paradigm
- 23:49is
- 23:50right
- 23:51and
- 23:51all
- 23:51of
- 23:52you
- 23:52must
- 23:52assimilate
- 23:53to
- 23:53my
- 23:53rightness
- 23:54and
- 23:55therefore
- 23:55develop,
- 23:56it
- 23:56develops
- 23:57this
- 23:57polarized
- 23:58of
- 23:59me,
- 24:00them,
- 24:01others,
- 24:03okay,
- 24:04right
- 24:05and
- 24:05wrong,
- 24:07transactional
- 24:09versus
- 24:09transformational.
- 24:11And
- 24:11then
- 24:12we
- 24:12wonder
- 24:12why
- 24:13those
- 24:14there
- 24:14are
- 24:14others,
- 24:15the
- 24:15others
- 24:16resist
- 24:17because
- 24:17you're
- 24:17setting
- 24:18up
- 24:18that
- 24:18environment
- 24:20and
- 24:20that
- 24:20ecosystem
- 24:21where
- 24:22there
- 24:22is
- 24:23a
- 24:23right
- 24:24and
- 24:24a
- 24:25wrong.
- 24:25And
- 24:26those
- 24:26who
- 24:26sit
- 24:27in
- 24:27spaces
- 24:29around
- 24:29the
- 24:29table
- 24:30that
- 24:31create
- 24:32the
- 24:33norms
- 24:34for
- 24:34the
- 24:34ecosystem
- 24:36are
- 24:36right.
- 24:37So
- 24:37I
- 24:38know
- 24:38that
- 24:38we're
- 24:38going
- 24:38to
- 24:39ask
- 24:39a
- 24:39question
- 24:40about
- 24:41resistance.
- 24:42I'd
- 24:42like
- 24:42to
- 24:43really
- 24:44think
- 24:45about
- 24:45the
- 24:45rest
- 24:45of
- 24:46our
- 24:46conversation
- 24:48and
- 24:48just
- 24:48weave
- 24:49some
- 24:49self
- 24:50reflective
- 24:51thought
- 24:52around.
- 24:53Why
- 24:53does
- 24:53the
- 24:54resistor
- 24:54resist?
- 24:55Because
- 24:55then
- 24:56that
- 24:56affects
- 24:57Terry,
- 24:58as
- 24:58you
- 24:58said,
- 24:58our
- 24:58clients,
- 25:00our
- 25:00students,
- 25:00our
- 25:01families,
- 25:01our
- 25:02community
- 25:02stakeholders,
- 25:03our
- 25:03stakeholders,
- 25:04overall,
- 25:05society,
- 25:06economy.
- 25:06And
- 25:07I
- 25:07could
- 25:07go
- 25:07on
- 25:07because
- 25:08there
- 25:08is
- 25:08a
- 25:08domino
- 25:09effect.
- 25:10Any
- 25:10thoughts
- 25:11around
- 25:11that?
- 25:13I
- 25:13want
- 25:13to
- 25:13jump
- 25:13in
- 25:14a
- 25:14little
- 25:14bit
- 25:14because
- 25:15Terry,
- 25:16when
- 25:16you
- 25:16began
- 25:16the
- 25:17conversation
- 25:17and
- 25:17you
- 25:18defined
- 25:19transformational
- 25:19leadership
- 25:20is
- 25:20inspiring
- 25:21others
- 25:21to
- 25:22do
- 25:22extraordinary
- 25:23things,
- 25:23something
- 25:24opened
- 25:24up
- 25:24inside
- 25:25me
- 25:25immediately.
- 25:28And
- 25:28when
- 25:29I
- 25:29think
- 25:29about
- 25:30transactional
- 25:31leadership
- 25:32and
- 25:34the
- 25:34comment
- 25:35that
- 25:35you
- 25:35just
- 25:36shared,
- 25:36Grant,
- 25:36I'm
- 25:37reminded
- 25:37of
- 25:37theory
- 25:38X
- 25:38and
- 25:38theory
- 25:38Y.
- 25:40When
- 25:40I
- 25:40first
- 25:41began
- 25:41thinking
- 25:42and
- 25:42being
- 25:42trained
- 25:43in
- 25:43systems
- 25:44thought,
- 25:44systems
- 25:45design.
- 25:49We.
- 25:49Know
- 25:49that
- 25:49theory
- 25:49X
- 25:50is
- 25:50about
- 25:51coercion.
- 25:52It
- 25:53sees
- 25:53people
- 25:54as
- 25:55sort
- 25:55of
- 25:56spiritless
- 25:56assets
- 25:58to
- 25:58be
- 25:58used
- 25:59to
- 25:59effect
- 26:00a
- 26:00desired
- 26:01change.
- 26:03And
- 26:04Alicia,
- 26:05you
- 26:05remind
- 26:05us
- 26:06that
- 26:08those
- 26:09people
- 26:10who
- 26:10possess
- 26:12cultural
- 26:13cache,
- 26:14cultural
- 26:14power,
- 26:16seek
- 26:17to
- 26:17maintain
- 26:18control
- 26:18and
- 26:19to
- 26:19exert
- 26:19control.
- 26:20And
- 26:21they
- 26:21define
- 26:21what's
- 26:22acceptable.
- 26:23And
- 26:23that's
- 26:24another
- 26:24form
- 26:24of
- 26:25Theory
- 26:25X.
- 26:27And
- 26:27theory
- 26:28Y
- 26:28understands
- 26:29that
- 26:29behind
- 26:30every
- 26:30data
- 26:30point
- 26:31is
- 26:31a
- 26:31soul,
- 26:32a
- 26:32human
- 26:32being.
- 26:34And
- 26:34when
- 26:35we
- 26:35recognize
- 26:36the
- 26:36power
- 26:37of
- 26:37inspiration,
- 26:38of
- 26:39spiriting
- 26:40individuals
- 26:41and
- 26:41colleagues
- 26:42and
- 26:42recognizing
- 26:44the
- 26:44assets
- 26:45that
- 26:45they
- 26:46already
- 26:46possess
- 26:48and
- 26:49that
- 26:49the
- 26:49flame
- 26:50that
- 26:50already
- 26:50burns
- 26:51inside
- 26:51them.
- 26:52And
- 26:52our
- 26:52view
- 26:53is
- 26:53a
- 26:54theory.
- 26:54Why
- 26:54view?
- 26:56To
- 26:56serve
- 26:57that
- 26:58resource
- 26:59in
- 26:59a
- 26:59way
- 26:59that
- 27:00allows
- 27:00it
- 27:01to
- 27:01blossom,
- 27:02to
- 27:03expand,
- 27:04to
- 27:04become
- 27:05that
- 27:06that
- 27:06links
- 27:08so
- 27:08many
- 27:08things
- 27:09together
- 27:09about
- 27:10what
- 27:10transformational
- 27:11leadership
- 27:12is,
- 27:13where
- 27:13it
- 27:13originates
- 27:14from,
- 27:14some
- 27:15of
- 27:15those
- 27:15core
- 27:15beliefs.
- 27:16Am
- 27:17I,
- 27:17am
- 27:17I
- 27:17on
- 27:18the
- 27:18right
- 27:18thread?
- 27:19Well,
- 27:19I
- 27:20would
- 27:20definitely
- 27:21say
- 27:22yes.
- 27:23It
- 27:23takes
- 27:24a
- 27:24lot
- 27:24of
- 27:24Effort
- 27:25to
- 27:26go
- 27:26against
- 27:27Theory
- 27:28X,
- 27:28right?
- 27:29It
- 27:29takes
- 27:29a
- 27:29lot
- 27:29of
- 27:29effort.
- 27:30It's
- 27:30the
- 27:31swimming
- 27:31upstream.
- 27:34And
- 27:34as
- 27:34we've
- 27:35been
- 27:35saying,
- 27:35transformational
- 27:36leadership.
- 27:36We
- 27:37throw
- 27:37that
- 27:37around
- 27:38like
- 27:38it's
- 27:39confetti.
- 27:40And
- 27:41the
- 27:41reality
- 27:41is
- 27:42it's
- 27:42a
- 27:42big
- 27:42heavy
- 27:43book,
- 27:43right?
- 27:44Like
- 27:44it's
- 27:45deep
- 27:45work.
- 27:46It
- 27:46is
- 27:47swimming
- 27:47upstream.
- 27:48It
- 27:49is
- 27:49knowing
- 27:49thyself.
- 27:51It
- 27:51is
- 27:51knowing
- 27:52the
- 27:53parameters
- 27:53that
- 27:54you
- 27:54find
- 27:54yourself
- 27:55in.
- 27:55And
- 27:55when
- 27:56I
- 27:56say
- 27:56parameters,
- 27:56I
- 27:57mean
- 27:57systems.
- 27:59And,
- 28:00and
- 28:00which
- 28:00ones
- 28:01you
- 28:01have
- 28:01the
- 28:02strength
- 28:03to
- 28:04swim
- 28:04against
- 28:05and
- 28:06which
- 28:06ones
- 28:06you
- 28:06might
- 28:07say,
- 28:07you
- 28:07know
- 28:08what,
- 28:08it's
- 28:09not
- 28:09for
- 28:09today,
- 28:10I'll
- 28:10swim
- 28:10around
- 28:11it
- 28:12instead.
- 28:13And,
- 28:13and
- 28:13that's
- 28:14the
- 28:14only
- 28:14way
- 28:14you're
- 28:14going
- 28:14to
- 28:14find
- 28:15peace
- 28:15really,
- 28:16is
- 28:16knowing
- 28:17which
- 28:18of
- 28:18the
- 28:18systems
- 28:18you're
- 28:19going
- 28:19to
- 28:19battle.
- 28:20Because
- 28:20it's
- 28:20hard
- 28:21already
- 28:21as
- 28:21it
- 28:21is.
- 28:22You're
- 28:22already
- 28:22swimming
- 28:23upstream.
- 28:24So
- 28:24I
- 28:24would
- 28:25like
- 28:25to
- 28:27start
- 28:27to
- 28:27talk
- 28:27about
- 28:27this
- 28:28word
- 28:28resistance.
- 28:29And
- 28:30this
- 28:30is
- 28:31always
- 28:31a
- 28:31fascinating
- 28:32conversation
- 28:33for
- 28:33me
- 28:34because
- 28:35I
- 28:36don't
- 28:36think
- 28:36it's
- 28:36all
- 28:36terrible,
- 28:37but
- 28:38I
- 28:38think
- 28:38that
- 28:39the
- 28:39status
- 28:39quo,
- 28:40this
- 28:40transactional
- 28:41herding
- 28:42nature
- 28:43of
- 28:43school,
- 28:43I
- 28:44do
- 28:44think
- 28:44that's
- 28:44terrible.
- 28:46And
- 28:46nobody
- 28:47alive
- 28:47created
- 28:48it.
- 28:48Right.
- 28:48It's
- 28:49been
- 28:49there
- 28:49longer
- 28:49than,
- 28:50you
- 28:50know,
- 28:50I'm
- 28:50the
- 28:51oldest
- 28:51one
- 28:51in
- 28:51the
- 28:51room
- 28:51here
- 28:52and
- 28:53I
- 28:53didn't
- 28:53create
- 28:54it.
- 28:54And
- 28:55so
- 28:57we
- 28:58all
- 28:58inherited
- 28:58a
- 28:59system
- 28:59which
- 28:59is
- 29:01no
- 29:01longer
- 29:02really
- 29:03what
- 29:04we
- 29:04need
- 29:04in
- 29:052025
- 29:06and
- 29:06what
- 29:06children
- 29:06and
- 29:07families
- 29:07need
- 29:07moving
- 29:08forward.
- 29:09And
- 29:11you
- 29:11will
- 29:12hear
- 29:12people
- 29:13often
- 29:14talking
- 29:14about
- 29:15that,
- 29:15that,
- 29:15oh
- 29:15yes,
- 29:16there's
- 29:16great
- 29:16things
- 29:17happening
- 29:17in
- 29:17schools,
- 29:18totally
- 29:19correct.
- 29:19There
- 29:20are
- 29:20great
- 29:20leaders
- 29:20and
- 29:21there
- 29:21are
- 29:21great
- 29:22teachers
- 29:22and
- 29:23there
- 29:23are
- 29:23great
- 29:23things,
- 29:24but
- 29:24there
- 29:24are
- 29:24also
- 29:24a
- 29:25whole
- 29:25lot
- 29:25of
- 29:25not
- 29:26great
- 29:26things.
- 29:27And
- 29:27if
- 29:27we
- 29:27look
- 29:27at
- 29:27things,
- 29:28if
- 29:28we
- 29:28look
- 29:28at
- 29:29things
- 29:29historically,
- 29:30right,
- 29:30you
- 29:31know,
- 29:32we've
- 29:32overcome
- 29:33some
- 29:33amazing
- 29:33things
- 29:34and
- 29:34we're
- 29:35still
- 29:35struggling
- 29:36at
- 29:36the
- 29:36same
- 29:36time.
- 29:37And
- 29:37if
- 29:37we
- 29:38follow
- 29:38accountability
- 29:39for
- 29:39the
- 29:39last
- 29:3930
- 29:40years,
- 29:41we've
- 29:42not
- 29:42gotten
- 29:42any,
- 29:42I
- 29:43mean,
- 29:43we've
- 29:43not
- 29:43gotten
- 29:44any
- 29:44better.
- 29:44We've
- 29:44actually
- 29:45gotten
- 29:45worse
- 29:46in
- 29:46terms
- 29:47of
- 29:47the
- 29:47things
- 29:47that
- 29:48they
- 29:48measure.
- 29:48Now,
- 29:48we
- 29:49all
- 29:49know
- 29:49that
- 29:49there
- 29:49are
- 29:49better
- 29:50things
- 29:50to
- 29:50measure
- 29:52than
- 29:52just
- 29:53those
- 29:53things
- 29:53that
- 29:53are
- 29:53measured
- 29:54on
- 29:54high
- 29:54stakes
- 29:55accountability
- 29:55tests
- 29:56at
- 29:56the
- 29:56end
- 29:56of
- 29:56the
- 29:56year.
- 29:57So
- 29:57my
- 29:57question
- 29:58is,
- 29:58if
- 29:59we
- 29:59know
- 29:59all
- 29:59that,
- 30:00why
- 30:00the
- 30:00resistance
- 30:02in
- 30:02the
- 30:02first
- 30:02place?
- 30:03And
- 30:03if
- 30:03you
- 30:04don't
- 30:04like
- 30:04that
- 30:04question,
- 30:05my
- 30:05other
- 30:05question
- 30:05is,
- 30:06when
- 30:07we
- 30:07try
- 30:07to
- 30:08overcome
- 30:09that
- 30:09or
- 30:09when
- 30:09we
- 30:09try
- 30:10to
- 30:10respond
- 30:11to
- 30:11the
- 30:12status
- 30:12quo,
- 30:13what
- 30:13kind
- 30:13of
- 30:13challenges
- 30:14do
- 30:15transformational
- 30:16leaders
- 30:16face?
- 30:17I
- 30:17think
- 30:18the
- 30:18first
- 30:18one
- 30:18might
- 30:18be
- 30:19self
- 30:19doubt.
- 30:19When
- 30:20you
- 30:20are
- 30:20facing
- 30:21something
- 30:22big
- 30:22that
- 30:22you
- 30:23want
- 30:23to
- 30:23change,
- 30:24high
- 30:24stakes
- 30:24testing,
- 30:25for
- 30:25example,
- 30:26you
- 30:26feel
- 30:26alone
- 30:27and
- 30:28you
- 30:28don't
- 30:29yet
- 30:29Know
- 30:29that
- 30:29there's
- 30:30a
- 30:30whole
- 30:31army
- 30:31of
- 30:31people
- 30:32who
- 30:32feel
- 30:32the
- 30:32same
- 30:33way
- 30:33as
- 30:33you
- 30:33and
- 30:34you
- 30:34haven't
- 30:34used
- 30:35that
- 30:35collective
- 30:36power,
- 30:36you
- 30:36know,
- 30:36you
- 30:37don't
- 30:37know
- 30:37that
- 30:37piece.
- 30:38And
- 30:38so
- 30:38you're
- 30:39self
- 30:39doubting,
- 30:40like,
- 30:40can,
- 30:40can
- 30:41I,
- 30:41little
- 30:41Terri,
- 30:43make
- 30:43a
- 30:43difference
- 30:43in
- 30:44this
- 30:44organization
- 30:44of
- 30:455,000
- 30:45people?
- 30:46That's
- 30:46the
- 30:46first
- 30:47question
- 30:47I
- 30:48would
- 30:48ask
- 30:48myself
- 30:49without
- 30:49knowing
- 30:50that
- 30:50there
- 30:51is
- 30:51actually
- 30:52other
- 30:52folks
- 30:53in
- 30:53that
- 30:535,000
- 30:54who
- 30:54feel
- 30:55the
- 30:55same
- 30:55way.
- 30:56The
- 30:56power
- 30:57comes
- 30:58in
- 30:58finding
- 30:59them
- 30:59and
- 31:00creating
- 31:00a
- 31:00coalition
- 31:01in
- 31:01order
- 31:02to
- 31:03together
- 31:04move
- 31:04against
- 31:05a
- 31:05system
- 31:06or
- 31:06something
- 31:07that
- 31:07doesn't
- 31:07serve
- 31:08you.
- 31:09It's
- 31:09all
- 31:09lonely
- 31:10at
- 31:10the
- 31:10beginning
- 31:10and
- 31:11you
- 31:11have
- 31:11to
- 31:11have
- 31:11faith
- 31:12that
- 31:12you're
- 31:12not
- 31:13alone.
- 31:13Yeah,
- 31:14I
- 31:14mean,
- 31:15I
- 31:15think
- 31:15that's
- 31:15huge.
- 31:16Right?
- 31:16Because
- 31:16I
- 31:16think
- 31:17the
- 31:17guiding
- 31:18principle
- 31:19in
- 31:20the
- 31:20vision
- 31:20of
- 31:20the
- 31:20wheelhouse
- 31:21is
- 31:21that
- 31:21we're
- 31:21going
- 31:22to
- 31:22build,
- 31:22we're
- 31:23going
- 31:23to
- 31:23contribute,
- 31:24I
- 31:24should
- 31:24say
- 31:24we're
- 31:25going
- 31:25to
- 31:25contribute
- 31:25to
- 31:26the
- 31:26building
- 31:27of
- 31:28communities
- 31:29of
- 31:29like
- 31:29minded
- 31:30educators.
- 31:30We're
- 31:30going
- 31:30to
- 31:31help
- 31:31build
- 31:32that
- 31:32collective.
- 31:34Who
- 31:34says,
- 31:36you
- 31:36know,
- 31:37yeah,
- 31:38we
- 31:38could
- 31:38take
- 31:38some
- 31:39of
- 31:39the
- 31:39good
- 31:39pieces,
- 31:39we
- 31:40could
- 31:40take
- 31:40the
- 31:40good
- 31:40pieces,
- 31:41but
- 31:41we
- 31:41got
- 31:41to
- 31:41really
- 31:41rethink
- 31:42this
- 31:42whole
- 31:43thing
- 31:44because
- 31:45this
- 31:45should
- 31:45really
- 31:46be
- 31:46about
- 31:46how
- 31:46we
- 31:46support
- 31:47the
- 31:48lives
- 31:48of
- 31:49children
- 31:50and
- 31:50families
- 31:51and
- 31:51educators,
- 31:52not
- 31:52just
- 31:53about
- 31:53the
- 31:53compliance
- 31:54driven
- 31:55piece
- 31:55of
- 31:55this.
- 31:55Of
- 31:55course,
- 31:56the
- 31:57reality
- 31:57is,
- 31:57yes,
- 31:58we
- 31:58want
- 31:58everybody
- 31:59to
- 31:59read,
- 31:59come
- 31:59on,
- 32:00right?
- 32:01Yes,
- 32:01we
- 32:01want
- 32:02everybody
- 32:02to
- 32:02be
- 32:03college
- 32:03and
- 32:03career
- 32:04ready.
- 32:04Of
- 32:05course.
- 32:05Of
- 32:06course
- 32:06we
- 32:06do.
- 32:06No
- 32:06one
- 32:07wants
- 32:07to
- 32:07put
- 32:07a
- 32:07child
- 32:08out
- 32:08into
- 32:08the
- 32:08world
- 32:09who's
- 32:10ill
- 32:10prepared
- 32:11to
- 32:12deal
- 32:12with
- 32:12whatever
- 32:12is
- 32:13coming
- 32:14in
- 32:14the
- 32:1421st
- 32:15century,
- 32:15but
- 32:16you
- 32:16don't
- 32:16do
- 32:16that
- 32:17by
- 32:17thumping
- 32:18test
- 32:18scores
- 32:19on
- 32:19them.
- 32:19Right.
- 32:19There
- 32:20are
- 32:20better
- 32:20ways
- 32:21to
- 32:21go
- 32:21about
- 32:22doing
- 32:22that.
- 32:22And
- 32:22so
- 32:23I
- 32:23think
- 32:23you're,
- 32:23you
- 32:24know,
- 32:24I
- 32:24think
- 32:24you're
- 32:24onto
- 32:26sort
- 32:26of
- 32:26jump
- 32:26on
- 32:26that
- 32:27idea
- 32:28because
- 32:28you're
- 32:29building
- 32:29a
- 32:31coalition
- 32:31that
- 32:32you
- 32:32call
- 32:32it,
- 32:33or
- 32:33a
- 32:34community
- 32:34of
- 32:34like
- 32:34minded
- 32:35folks
- 32:35that
- 32:35we
- 32:35call
- 32:35it,
- 32:36I
- 32:36think
- 32:36is
- 32:36really
- 32:37important
- 32:38to
- 32:43be
- 32:43able
- 32:43to
- 32:43stand
- 32:44up
- 32:44to
- 32:44the
- 32:44compliance
- 32:45driven
- 32:46transactional
- 32:46nature
- 32:47and
- 32:48to
- 32:48put
- 32:48a
- 32:48dent
- 32:49in
- 32:49it.
- 32:49Right.
- 32:49And
- 32:50to
- 32:50put
- 32:50a
- 32:50dent
- 32:50in
- 32:50it.
- 32:51Terry,
- 32:52am
- 32:52I
- 32:52right?
- 32:52When
- 32:52I,
- 32:53I
- 32:53hear
- 32:53you
- 32:54speak,
- 32:55the
- 32:56kind
- 32:56of
- 32:56resistance,
- 32:58the
- 32:58dimension
- 33:00that
- 33:00I
- 33:00hear
- 33:02of
- 33:02resistance
- 33:03in
- 33:03your
- 33:04leadership
- 33:04work
- 33:05is
- 33:06resistance
- 33:07to
- 33:08feeling
- 33:08hopeless
- 33:10when
- 33:10you
- 33:10exhort
- 33:11colleagues
- 33:12to
- 33:12not
- 33:12throw
- 33:12the
- 33:13baby
- 33:13out
- 33:14with
- 33:14the
- 33:14bathwater.
- 33:15That
- 33:15there
- 33:15are
- 33:16elements
- 33:16right
- 33:17now
- 33:17in
- 33:17this
- 33:17existing
- 33:18system
- 33:19that
- 33:19we
- 33:19can
- 33:20use
- 33:20and
- 33:21we
- 33:21can
- 33:21use
- 33:21them
- 33:21differently
- 33:22as
- 33:23long
- 33:23as
- 33:23we
- 33:24are
- 33:24all
- 33:25like
- 33:26minded
- 33:26about
- 33:27what
- 33:27we
- 33:27believe
- 33:28matters
- 33:29more.
- 33:29And
- 33:30to
- 33:30me
- 33:30that's
- 33:30an
- 33:31essential
- 33:31practice
- 33:32against
- 33:32hopelessness.
- 33:33I
- 33:34mean,
- 33:34and
- 33:34hopelessness
- 33:35is
- 33:35probably
- 33:35something
- 33:36that
- 33:36plagues
- 33:36Us
- 33:37daily
- 33:37in
- 33:38and
- 33:38out
- 33:38of
- 33:38the
- 33:38school
- 33:39system,
- 33:39right?
- 33:41It's
- 33:42a
- 33:42big
- 33:43piece
- 33:43of
- 33:43self
- 33:44care
- 33:46is
- 33:46to
- 33:47maintain
- 33:48your
- 33:48hope
- 33:49and
- 33:49your
- 33:49hopefulness.
- 33:50And
- 33:51so
- 33:52there
- 33:52are
- 33:52ways
- 33:52of
- 33:53using
- 33:53things
- 33:53that.
- 33:54I
- 33:54was
- 33:54just
- 33:55thinking
- 33:55about
- 33:55what
- 33:55Grant
- 33:55was
- 33:56saying.
- 33:56You
- 33:56know,
- 33:56the
- 33:57accountability
- 33:58measures
- 33:5920
- 33:59years
- 33:59ago,
- 34:00drill
- 34:00and
- 34:01kill
- 34:01was
- 34:01a
- 34:01thing,
- 34:02you
- 34:02know,
- 34:03teaching
- 34:04to
- 34:04the
- 34:04test
- 34:05was
- 34:05not
- 34:06frowned
- 34:06upon.
- 34:08You
- 34:08know,
- 34:09so
- 34:10we've
- 34:10made
- 34:10a
- 34:10change,
- 34:12right?
- 34:13Small
- 34:13as
- 34:14it
- 34:14is,
- 34:15but
- 34:16collectively,
- 34:17I
- 34:18would
- 34:18think
- 34:18most
- 34:18of
- 34:19us
- 34:19would
- 34:19agree,
- 34:20and
- 34:20I
- 34:21say
- 34:21most
- 34:21of
- 34:21us
- 34:21in
- 34:22education
- 34:23beyond
- 34:24the
- 34:24wheelhouse,
- 34:25most
- 34:25of
- 34:25us
- 34:25would
- 34:26agree
- 34:26that
- 34:26drill
- 34:27and
- 34:27kill
- 34:27practices
- 34:28are
- 34:28not
- 34:29helpful
- 34:29for
- 34:29anybody.
- 34:31There's
- 34:31so
- 34:31much
- 34:32research
- 34:32behind
- 34:33that.
- 34:33We
- 34:34can
- 34:34use
- 34:34those
- 34:34small
- 34:35things
- 34:36like
- 34:36research
- 34:37to
- 34:37propel
- 34:37us
- 34:38forward.
- 34:38That
- 34:38was
- 34:39a
- 34:39big
- 34:39game
- 34:40to
- 34:40say
- 34:40that
- 34:40drill
- 34:41and
- 34:41kill
- 34:41was
- 34:42bad
- 34:42for
- 34:42kids
- 34:43and
- 34:43you
- 34:43weren't
- 34:44going
- 34:44to
- 34:44get
- 34:44the
- 34:44results
- 34:44that
- 34:45you
- 34:45needed
- 34:45or
- 34:46wanted.
- 34:46So
- 34:47there
- 34:47are
- 34:47ways
- 34:48of
- 34:48using
- 34:48what
- 34:49is
- 34:49good
- 34:49out
- 34:49there
- 34:50and
- 34:50amplifying
- 34:51it
- 34:52in
- 34:52such
- 34:52a
- 34:52way
- 34:53that
- 34:53now
- 34:54it's
- 34:55standard,
- 34:56right?
- 34:56It's
- 34:56a
- 34:56standard
- 34:57belief.
- 34:58I
- 34:58think
- 34:58we
- 34:58just
- 34:58need
- 34:59to
- 34:59find
- 34:59those
- 34:59nuggets
- 35:01of
- 35:01what's
- 35:01going
- 35:02well
- 35:03and
- 35:03figure
- 35:03out
- 35:03how
- 35:03to
- 35:04amplify
- 35:04them
- 35:05with
- 35:05our
- 35:06coalition
- 35:06or
- 35:07our
- 35:07community
- 35:08and
- 35:09to
- 35:09where
- 35:09we
- 35:09standardize
- 35:10that
- 35:11belief.
- 35:12There
- 35:13is
- 35:13a
- 35:13movement,
- 35:14right?
- 35:14A
- 35:15swimming
- 35:15upstream,
- 35:17but
- 35:17it's
- 35:18very
- 35:18slow,
- 35:19it's
- 35:19in
- 35:19drips
- 35:19and
- 35:20drabs
- 35:20and
- 35:21it's
- 35:21not
- 35:21consistent.
- 35:22There
- 35:23is
- 35:23hope
- 35:24because
- 35:24there
- 35:24are
- 35:25some
- 35:25that
- 35:25come
- 35:25out
- 35:26and
- 35:27they
- 35:28will,
- 35:29they
- 35:29will
- 35:29seek
- 35:29to
- 35:29transform
- 35:30because
- 35:31as
- 35:31you
- 35:31said
- 35:31Terry
- 35:32earlier,
- 35:33it's
- 35:33about
- 35:33their
- 35:34purpose
- 35:34and
- 35:34it's
- 35:34about
- 35:35a
- 35:35call
- 35:35to
- 35:35action.
- 35:36And
- 35:36then
- 35:36we,
- 35:36you
- 35:37know,
- 35:37we
- 35:37will
- 35:38build
- 35:38coalitions
- 35:39and
- 35:40we
- 35:40will
- 35:40move
- 35:40forward
- 35:41and
- 35:41we
- 35:41will
- 35:41take
- 35:42that
- 35:42time.
- 35:43However,
- 35:44transformational
- 35:45leadership
- 35:46still
- 35:46sits
- 35:46on
- 35:46the
- 35:47margins
- 35:47of
- 35:47the
- 35:48system.
- 35:48With
- 35:49that
- 35:49said,
- 35:49I
- 35:50noticed
- 35:50that
- 35:51on
- 35:51LinkedIn
- 35:52you
- 35:53reposted
- 35:54a
- 35:54powerful
- 35:55and
- 35:55poignant
- 35:56post.
- 35:58As
- 35:58an
- 35:58Afro
- 35:59Latina
- 35:59myself
- 36:00that
- 36:00identifies
- 36:01proudly
- 36:02as
- 36:02Afro
- 36:03Latin,
- 36:05it
- 36:05made
- 36:06me
- 36:06warm
- 36:06to
- 36:07feel
- 36:08that
- 36:08there
- 36:08is
- 36:09a
- 36:09voice
- 36:10behind
- 36:12the
- 36:13identity
- 36:15and
- 36:16unfortunate
- 36:17systems
- 36:19that
- 36:19many
- 36:20of
- 36:20us
- 36:20have
- 36:20to
- 36:21navigate
- 36:22through.
- 36:23The
- 36:23post
- 36:24was
- 36:24actually
- 36:25posted
- 36:26by
- 36:26Latinas
- 36:27with
- 36:28masters
- 36:29and
- 36:29I'm
- 36:29just
- 36:29going
- 36:29to
- 36:29take
- 36:30a
- 36:30moment
- 36:30to
- 36:30read
- 36:31it
- 36:32because
- 36:33I
- 36:33definitely
- 36:34want
- 36:34to
- 36:34be
- 36:34deliberate
- 36:35in
- 36:35the
- 36:36presentation
- 36:36because
- 36:37it
- 36:37is
- 36:38so
- 36:38powerful.
- 36:39So
- 36:39it
- 36:39reads
- 36:40from
- 36:40the
- 36:40inside
- 36:42how
- 36:42academic
- 36:43systems
- 36:43systematically
- 36:45silence
- 36:46challengers.
- 36:49They
- 36:49discuss
- 36:49your
- 36:50replacement
- 36:50with
- 36:51others
- 36:51openly
- 36:53while
- 36:53you're
- 36:53still
- 36:54in
- 36:54the
- 36:54position.
- 36:56They
- 36:57have
- 36:57informal
- 36:58chats
- 36:58about
- 36:59the
- 36:59direction
- 37:00of
- 37:00your
- 37:00department
- 37:01or
- 37:02program
- 37:03without
- 37:03your
- 37:03input.
- 37:06They
- 37:06make
- 37:06decisions
- 37:07without
- 37:08you
- 37:09in
- 37:09the
- 37:09room.
- 37:11They
- 37:12eliminate
- 37:13your
- 37:13voice
- 37:13from
- 37:13committees
- 37:14and
- 37:15gatekeep
- 37:16every
- 37:17future
- 37:18opportunity.
- 37:20Your
- 37:20expertise
- 37:21is
- 37:21no
- 37:21Longer
- 37:22sought
- 37:22out
- 37:22or
- 37:23valued.
- 37:25They
- 37:25see
- 37:25your
- 37:25campless
- 37:26influence
- 37:27as
- 37:27a
- 37:28threat,
- 37:30so
- 37:30silencing
- 37:31becomes
- 37:32their
- 37:33priority.
- 37:35Sound
- 37:36familiar?
- 37:37What
- 37:37types
- 37:38of
- 37:38retaliation
- 37:39have
- 37:39emerged
- 37:40in
- 37:40your
- 37:40experience
- 37:41that
- 37:42that
- 37:42challenged
- 37:43you,
- 37:43that
- 37:43challenged
- 37:44me,
- 37:44that
- 37:44challenged
- 37:45every
- 37:45reader.
- 37:47Because
- 37:48that
- 37:49is
- 37:50the
- 37:50unfortunate
- 37:51conditions
- 37:53of
- 37:54those
- 37:54who
- 37:54seek
- 37:55to
- 37:55transform
- 37:56for
- 37:57the
- 37:57greater
- 37:57good
- 37:58and
- 37:59are
- 37:59marginalized
- 38:00by
- 38:00those
- 38:01in
- 38:01power,
- 38:02Michael,
- 38:03that
- 38:03sit
- 38:03in
- 38:04those
- 38:04decision
- 38:04making
- 38:05systems.
- 38:07So
- 38:07my
- 38:08question
- 38:08is,
- 38:08do
- 38:08you
- 38:09have.
- 38:09First
- 38:09of
- 38:10all,
- 38:10I
- 38:10want
- 38:10to
- 38:10thank
- 38:10you
- 38:11for
- 38:11reposting
- 38:11that
- 38:12because
- 38:12I
- 38:13then
- 38:13reposted.
- 38:15And
- 38:15my
- 38:15question
- 38:15is,
- 38:16Terry,
- 38:16do
- 38:16you
- 38:17have
- 38:17any
- 38:17tips
- 38:17on
- 38:18how
- 38:18to
- 38:19stay
- 38:19healthy
- 38:21mind,
- 38:22body
- 38:22and
- 38:22spirit,
- 38:23as
- 38:24these
- 38:24subversive
- 38:25acts
- 38:25are
- 38:26experienced
- 38:27as
- 38:28a
- 38:28normal
- 38:29part
- 38:29of
- 38:29many
- 38:30workplace
- 38:30cultures?
- 38:32I
- 38:32would
- 38:32say
- 38:33recognizing
- 38:33that
- 38:34that's
- 38:34a
- 38:34playbook,
- 38:36I
- 38:37mean,
- 38:37you
- 38:37know,
- 38:37it's
- 38:37football
- 38:38season,
- 38:38right?
- 38:38It's
- 38:38a
- 38:38playbook
- 38:39of
- 38:40the
- 38:40other
- 38:40team.
- 38:41You've
- 38:42got
- 38:42to
- 38:42have
- 38:42your
- 38:42own
- 38:43playbook.
- 38:43And
- 38:43so
- 38:44to
- 38:44your
- 38:44point,
- 38:44Alicia,
- 38:46how
- 38:46do
- 38:46you
- 38:47preserve
- 38:48your
- 38:48sanity
- 38:49when
- 38:49you're
- 38:50up
- 38:50against
- 38:50a
- 38:51team
- 38:52that
- 38:52has
- 38:52honed
- 38:54their
- 38:54playbook
- 38:55in
- 38:56some
- 38:56cases
- 38:57over
- 38:57decades,
- 38:59with
- 38:59some
- 39:00systems
- 39:00over
- 39:01centuries?
- 39:04How
- 39:04do
- 39:04you
- 39:04preserve
- 39:05yourself
- 39:06to
- 39:07continue
- 39:08this
- 39:08fight?
- 39:09And
- 39:09a
- 39:09big
- 39:09part
- 39:10of
- 39:10it
- 39:10is
- 39:11have
- 39:12regular
- 39:12check
- 39:13in
- 39:13with
- 39:13yourself.
- 39:15We
- 39:16always
- 39:16talk
- 39:16about
- 39:17reflective
- 39:17practitioners,
- 39:19that
- 39:19leaders
- 39:19should
- 39:20be
- 39:20reflective
- 39:21practitioners.
- 39:21When
- 39:22do
- 39:22we
- 39:22find
- 39:22time
- 39:23for
- 39:23that?
- 39:23Right?
- 39:24We
- 39:24see
- 39:24it
- 39:24as
- 39:24so
- 39:24important.
- 39:25When
- 39:25do
- 39:25we
- 39:26find
- 39:26time
- 39:26for
- 39:26that?
- 39:27You
- 39:27know,
- 39:27we
- 39:27are,
- 39:28we
- 39:28sit
- 39:28in
- 39:28a
- 39:28professional
- 39:29learning
- 39:29and
- 39:29we
- 39:29talk
- 39:30about,
- 39:30you
- 39:30know,
- 39:30reflection
- 39:31and
- 39:31we
- 39:32may
- 39:32have
- 39:32five
- 39:32minutes
- 39:33out
- 39:33of
- 39:33a
- 39:33seven
- 39:34hour
- 39:35professional
- 39:35development.
- 39:36How
- 39:37do
- 39:37we
- 39:37practice
- 39:37what
- 39:37we're
- 39:38preaching
- 39:38and
- 39:39when
- 39:39do
- 39:39we
- 39:39do
- 39:39that?
- 39:40For
- 39:40me,
- 39:41I
- 39:41find
- 39:42sacred
- 39:43the
- 39:43time
- 39:43I
- 39:43sit
- 39:43in
- 39:44traffic.
- 39:45That's
- 39:45a
- 39:45lot
- 39:46of
- 39:46time
- 39:46for
- 39:46me
- 39:47to
- 39:47be
- 39:47reflective.
- 39:48I,
- 39:49I
- 39:49don't.
- 39:49I'm
- 39:49not
- 39:49bothered
- 39:50by
- 39:50Houston
- 39:50traffic
- 39:51anymore.
- 39:52You
- 39:52know,
- 39:52it
- 39:52takes
- 39:52an
- 39:52hour
- 39:52to
- 39:53get
- 39:53from
- 39:54one
- 39:54place
- 39:54in
- 39:54Houston
- 39:54to
- 39:55another
- 39:55place
- 39:55in
- 39:55Houston.
- 39:56You
- 39:56know,
- 39:56like.
- 39:57But
- 39:57that's
- 39:57sacred
- 39:58time
- 39:58to
- 39:58me.
- 39:59There's
- 39:59no
- 39:59radio,
- 40:00there's
- 40:00no
- 40:01audiobook.
- 40:02It's
- 40:02just
- 40:03me.
- 40:03And
- 40:04how
- 40:04did
- 40:04this
- 40:05go?
- 40:06Not
- 40:06overthinking,
- 40:07but
- 40:08how
- 40:08did
- 40:08this
- 40:08go?
- 40:08And
- 40:08how,
- 40:09how
- 40:09do
- 40:09I
- 40:09feel
- 40:10about
- 40:10myself
- 40:12and
- 40:12what
- 40:13I'm
- 40:13trying
- 40:13to
- 40:13do?
- 40:14And
- 40:14my
- 40:14purpose
- 40:15was
- 40:15I
- 40:16aligned
- 40:16with
- 40:16what
- 40:16I
- 40:17meant
- 40:17to
- 40:17do
- 40:17today.
- 40:18So
- 40:18for
- 40:18me,
- 40:18that's
- 40:19a
- 40:19big
- 40:19piece
- 40:19of
- 40:19keeping
- 40:20yourself
- 40:20healthy.
- 40:21That's
- 40:22mind,
- 40:23body.
- 40:24You
- 40:24know,
- 40:24there's
- 40:25so
- 40:25much
- 40:25research
- 40:25behind
- 40:26touching
- 40:27grass,
- 40:27right?
- 40:28Go
- 40:28outside,
- 40:29fill
- 40:29your
- 40:29lungs
- 40:29with
- 40:30something
- 40:30other
- 40:31than
- 40:32what
- 40:32you're
- 40:32fighting.
- 40:34Because
- 40:35sometimes
- 40:35what
- 40:35you're
- 40:35fighting
- 40:36is
- 40:36in
- 40:36the
- 40:36same
- 40:36building
- 40:37as
- 40:37you.
- 40:37So
- 40:38go
- 40:38outside,
- 40:38take
- 40:39the
- 40:39kids
- 40:39out
- 40:39to
- 40:39recess,
- 40:40right?
- 40:41Take
- 40:41a
- 40:41Walk,
- 40:42walk
- 40:42your
- 40:42dogs,
- 40:43whatever
- 40:44that
- 40:44looks
- 40:44like
- 40:44for
- 40:45you,
- 40:46as
- 40:46best
- 40:46you
- 40:46can.
- 40:47Make
- 40:47it
- 40:47daily.
- 40:48When
- 40:48I
- 40:48can't
- 40:50guess
- 40:50what
- 40:50I
- 40:50do
- 40:51during
- 40:51that
- 40:51commute,
- 40:53I
- 40:53do
- 40:53the
- 40:53sunroof.
- 40:54I
- 40:54may
- 40:55be
- 40:55breathing
- 40:56in
- 40:56a
- 40:56lot
- 40:56of
- 40:56smog,
- 40:57but
- 40:57I'm
- 40:57getting
- 40:58some
- 40:58UV
- 40:58on
- 40:59me.
- 40:59And
- 40:59then
- 41:00spirit.
- 41:01Spirit
- 41:01can
- 41:02look
- 41:02in
- 41:02so
- 41:02many
- 41:03different
- 41:03ways
- 41:03for
- 41:05different
- 41:05individuals.
- 41:06I
- 41:06know
- 41:06Alicia
- 41:07gets
- 41:07up
- 41:07at
- 41:074am
- 41:08to
- 41:08commune
- 41:10and
- 41:10to
- 41:10feed
- 41:10her
- 41:10spirit.
- 41:11I
- 41:11am
- 41:12only
- 41:12familiar
- 41:12with
- 41:13the
- 41:13concept
- 41:13of
- 41:144am
- 41:14I
- 41:14like
- 41:15its
- 41:15friend,
- 41:154pm
- 41:16much
- 41:17better.
- 41:19So.
- 41:20But
- 41:20spirit
- 41:20can
- 41:21be,
- 41:21hey,
- 41:23I'm
- 41:23in
- 41:23a
- 41:24moment,
- 41:24in
- 41:25a
- 41:25season.
- 41:26How
- 41:26do
- 41:26I
- 41:26reach
- 41:26out?
- 41:28Recently
- 41:28I
- 41:29had
- 41:29a
- 41:29small
- 41:30crisis
- 41:30in
- 41:31my
- 41:31family
- 41:32and
- 41:33getting
- 41:34chugged
- 41:34up,
- 41:35I
- 41:35reached
- 41:35out
- 41:36to
- 41:36Alicia
- 41:37and
- 41:37said,
- 41:38I
- 41:38need
- 41:38you
- 41:40in
- 41:40one
- 41:40of
- 41:40your
- 41:414am
- 41:42meditation
- 41:43moments
- 41:44to
- 41:44pray
- 41:45for
- 41:45me
- 41:46and
- 41:46mine.
- 41:47I
- 41:47knew
- 41:47I
- 41:47was
- 41:47praying,
- 41:49but
- 41:49I
- 41:49needed
- 41:49to
- 41:50know
- 41:50that
- 41:50there
- 41:50were
- 41:50other
- 41:51people
- 41:51with
- 41:51me
- 41:52on
- 41:52the
- 41:53same
- 41:53journey.
- 41:54So
- 41:54that
- 41:55fed
- 41:55my
- 41:55spirit,
- 41:56is
- 41:57to
- 41:57reach
- 41:57out
- 41:57to
- 41:57a
- 41:57friend
- 41:57tour
- 41:58and
- 41:58say,
- 41:59hey,
- 41:59this
- 41:59is
- 41:59happening.
- 42:00Without
- 42:01going
- 42:01into
- 42:01too
- 42:01much
- 42:01detail,
- 42:03can
- 42:03I
- 42:03have
- 42:03your
- 42:03help?
- 42:04Can
- 42:04I
- 42:04have
- 42:05your
- 42:05good
- 42:05vibes,
- 42:05your
- 42:06thoughts?
- 42:07So
- 42:07there's
- 42:07different
- 42:08ways
- 42:08of
- 42:09feeding
- 42:09the
- 42:09spirit,
- 42:10but
- 42:10you
- 42:10have
- 42:11to
- 42:11find
- 42:11them.
- 42:11There's
- 42:12again,
- 42:13transformational
- 42:14leadership
- 42:14is
- 42:15hard
- 42:15because
- 42:15you
- 42:15have
- 42:15to
- 42:16find
- 42:16those
- 42:16three
- 42:16things
- 42:17for
- 42:17yourself
- 42:18and
- 42:18then
- 42:19inspire
- 42:19other
- 42:19people
- 42:20to
- 42:20do
- 42:20the
- 42:20same
- 42:21for
- 42:21themselves.
- 42:22As
- 42:22we
- 42:22say,
- 42:22yeah,
- 42:23you
- 42:23know,
- 42:23reflective
- 42:24practitioners,
- 42:25you
- 42:25know,
- 42:26oh,
- 42:26really?
- 42:28How
- 42:28much
- 42:28time
- 42:28do
- 42:28you
- 42:29spend?
- 42:30If
- 42:30you
- 42:30spent
- 42:31eight
- 42:31hours
- 42:32of
- 42:32your
- 42:32day
- 42:33at
- 42:34work,
- 42:34do
- 42:35you
- 42:35spend
- 42:35more
- 42:35than
- 42:35five
- 42:36minutes
- 42:36reflecting?
- 42:37Is
- 42:38it
- 42:38proportional?
- 42:39Do
- 42:39you
- 42:39spend
- 42:40more
- 42:40than
- 42:4010
- 42:41minutes
- 42:41walking
- 42:41outside?
- 42:42Is
- 42:43it
- 42:43proportional?
- 42:44Are
- 42:44you
- 42:44reaching
- 42:45out
- 42:45to
- 42:45others,
- 42:46whether
- 42:47they
- 42:47be
- 42:48out
- 42:49in
- 42:49the
- 42:49universe
- 42:50or
- 42:50simply
- 42:51a
- 42:51text
- 42:51away?
- 42:52And
- 42:53is
- 42:53it
- 42:53proportional?
- 42:54Is
- 42:54if
- 42:54it's
- 42:55not,
- 42:55then
- 42:56that's
- 42:57where
- 42:57there's
- 42:57no
- 42:57balance,
- 42:58right?
- 42:58I'm
- 42:59not
- 42:59saying
- 42:59that
- 43:00four
- 43:00hours
- 43:00of
- 43:01work
- 43:01and
- 43:01four
- 43:01hours
- 43:01of
- 43:02play.
- 43:02No,
- 43:02I'm
- 43:03saying
- 43:03is
- 43:03it
- 43:04proportional
- 43:04to
- 43:04what
- 43:04you
- 43:05need
- 43:05in
- 43:05order
- 43:05to
- 43:05keep
- 43:06Michael
- 43:06to
- 43:07your
- 43:07point,
- 43:07keep
- 43:07hope
- 43:08alive?
- 43:09And
- 43:10so
- 43:10that's
- 43:11for
- 43:11me,
- 43:11when
- 43:11you're
- 43:12in
- 43:12an
- 43:12organization,
- 43:14know
- 43:14their
- 43:14playbook,
- 43:15create
- 43:16your
- 43:16own.
- 43:17Terry,
- 43:18I'm
- 43:18reminded
- 43:18of
- 43:19the
- 43:19initiative
- 43:20that
- 43:20is
- 43:21beginning,
- 43:22that
- 43:22you
- 43:23have
- 43:23started
- 43:23and
- 43:24is
- 43:24underway
- 43:26across
- 43:26a
- 43:275,000
- 43:28human
- 43:28being
- 43:29organization
- 43:30that
- 43:31spans
- 43:3150,000
- 43:32kids
- 43:33thousands
- 43:33of
- 43:34miles.
- 43:35What
- 43:36evidence
- 43:37do
- 43:37you
- 43:38gather
- 43:39as
- 43:41you
- 43:41seek
- 43:42to
- 43:42create
- 43:43your
- 43:43circles
- 43:44and
- 43:44your
- 43:45network,
- 43:46your
- 43:47coalition,
- 43:48that
- 43:48the
- 43:48phone
- 43:49call
- 43:49you
- 43:49make,
- 43:50the
- 43:51contact,
- 43:51the
- 43:52conversation
- 43:52you're
- 43:53having
- 43:53with
- 43:54a
- 43:54professional
- 43:54colleague
- 43:56is
- 43:56so
- 43:57desperately
- 43:57needed
- 43:58on
- 43:58the
- 43:58other
- 43:58end.
- 44:01What.
- 44:01Are
- 44:01some
- 44:01of
- 44:01the
- 44:02experiences
- 44:02you've
- 44:03had
- 44:03that
- 44:04your
- 44:05appeal
- 44:06for
- 44:06connection
- 44:07has
- 44:07been
- 44:07met
- 44:08with
- 44:08A
- 44:09deep
- 44:09kind
- 44:09of
- 44:09gratitude.
- 44:11Surprisingly,
- 44:11Michael,
- 44:12quite
- 44:12a
- 44:12few.
- 44:14I'll
- 44:14begin
- 44:14with.
- 44:15I
- 44:15had
- 44:15a
- 44:16new
- 44:16principal
- 44:17out
- 44:18in
- 44:18Waco,
- 44:18which
- 44:19is
- 44:19about
- 44:19a
- 44:19four
- 44:19hour
- 44:20drive
- 44:22in
- 44:22Texas.
- 44:22We
- 44:22don't
- 44:23talk
- 44:23about
- 44:24miles
- 44:25so
- 44:25much
- 44:25as
- 44:26hours
- 44:26of
- 44:26driving.
- 44:28So
- 44:28that
- 44:28817
- 44:29miles
- 44:30between
- 44:30those
- 44:30two
- 44:32campuses
- 44:32is
- 44:33actually
- 44:33about
- 44:33a
- 44:3312
- 44:34hour
- 44:34drive.
- 44:3514
- 44:36hours
- 44:36if
- 44:36you
- 44:36decide
- 44:37to
- 44:37hit
- 44:37every
- 44:38Buc
- 44:38ee's
- 44:38along
- 44:38the
- 44:39way.
- 44:40I
- 44:40digress.
- 44:43So
- 44:44I
- 44:44had
- 44:44this
- 44:45principal
- 44:45in
- 44:45Waco
- 44:47and
- 44:48something
- 44:49told
- 44:49me
- 44:49to
- 44:49reach
- 44:49out
- 44:50to
- 44:50her.
- 44:50It
- 44:50was
- 44:50her
- 44:51maybe
- 44:51first
- 44:52or
- 44:52second
- 44:52year.
- 44:53She
- 44:53was
- 44:53a
- 44:54novice.
- 44:55And
- 44:55so
- 44:55it
- 44:55was
- 44:56her
- 44:56first
- 44:56year
- 44:56actually.
- 44:57And
- 44:57so
- 44:58I
- 44:58just.
- 44:58Something
- 44:58told
- 44:58me,
- 44:59reach
- 44:59out
- 44:59to
- 44:59her.
- 45:00And
- 45:00so
- 45:00I
- 45:01did.
- 45:02And
- 45:02I
- 45:02said,
- 45:02how
- 45:02are
- 45:02you
- 45:02doing?
- 45:03She
- 45:03said,
- 45:03fine.
- 45:04And
- 45:04I
- 45:04said,
- 45:04no,
- 45:05how
- 45:06are
- 45:06you
- 45:06doing?
- 45:07And
- 45:08it
- 45:08all
- 45:08came
- 45:09out
- 45:09right.
- 45:09She's
- 45:10struggling,
- 45:10et
- 45:11cetera,
- 45:11all
- 45:11the
- 45:12things.
- 45:12And
- 45:13I
- 45:13said,
- 45:13well,
- 45:13do
- 45:13you
- 45:14have
- 45:14support?
- 45:15And
- 45:15she's
- 45:15like,
- 45:15yeah,
- 45:16my
- 45:16husband's
- 45:16great,
- 45:16my
- 45:16family's
- 45:17great.
- 45:17I
- 45:17said,
- 45:17no,
- 45:17no,
- 45:18no,
- 45:18no.
- 45:18Which
- 45:19principal
- 45:20Friends?
- 45:21People
- 45:21who
- 45:21are
- 45:21walking
- 45:22the
- 45:22same
- 45:22walk.
- 45:24Do
- 45:24you
- 45:24have
- 45:24support
- 45:25with
- 45:26as
- 45:27a
- 45:27woman
- 45:27of
- 45:28color
- 45:28in
- 45:28an
- 45:29organization
- 45:30that
- 45:31doesn't
- 45:31have
- 45:31that
- 45:31many
- 45:32people
- 45:32of
- 45:32color
- 45:33at
- 45:34the
- 45:34helm?
- 45:34Do
- 45:35you
- 45:35know
- 45:35other
- 45:35principals
- 45:37who
- 45:37are
- 45:37walking
- 45:38this
- 45:38walk
- 45:38with
- 45:38you?
- 45:38She
- 45:39said,
- 45:39well,
- 45:40I
- 45:40feel
- 45:40bad
- 45:40about,
- 45:41you
- 45:41know,
- 45:41reaching
- 45:42out
- 45:42to
- 45:42my
- 45:42mentor.
- 45:43I
- 45:43said,
- 45:43no,
- 45:43no,
- 45:43no,
- 45:43that's
- 45:44what
- 45:44the
- 45:44mentor's
- 45:44for.
- 45:45And
- 45:45I
- 45:45said,
- 45:46I
- 45:46need,
- 45:47you
- 45:47know,
- 45:47just
- 45:48hold
- 45:48one
- 45:48minute.
- 45:49I
- 45:49got
- 45:49onto
- 45:50the
- 45:50other
- 45:50line,
- 45:52I
- 45:52got
- 45:52another
- 45:53principal,
- 45:54a
- 45:55man
- 45:55of
- 45:55color,
- 45:56and
- 45:56I
- 45:56got.
- 45:56I
- 45:56connected
- 45:57the
- 45:57two
- 45:57of
- 45:57them
- 45:58because
- 45:58I've
- 45:59never
- 45:59walked
- 45:59that
- 46:00particular
- 46:00walk.
- 46:01I've
- 46:01never
- 46:01been
- 46:02a
- 46:02principal
- 46:02of
- 46:02a
- 46:02campus,
- 46:04so
- 46:04I
- 46:04couldn't.
- 46:05I
- 46:06could
- 46:06only
- 46:06be
- 46:06a
- 46:06sounding
- 46:07board,
- 46:07reflection
- 46:08and
- 46:08cheerleader
- 46:08for
- 46:09her.
- 46:10But
- 46:10I
- 46:10knew
- 46:10she
- 46:11needed
- 46:11more,
- 46:13and
- 46:13so
- 46:13I
- 46:13connected
- 46:14her
- 46:14with
- 46:14more.
- 46:15There
- 46:15was
- 46:15a
- 46:15lot
- 46:15of
- 46:15gratitude
- 46:16there
- 46:17on
- 46:17both
- 46:17sides
- 46:17because
- 46:18the
- 46:18individual
- 46:19I
- 46:19called
- 46:19up,
- 46:20he
- 46:20was
- 46:20like,
- 46:20oh,
- 46:21wow,
- 46:21you
- 46:21know,
- 46:22you
- 46:22called
- 46:22me
- 46:23because
- 46:23I
- 46:24need
- 46:24you,
- 46:25because
- 46:25this
- 46:25person
- 46:25needs
- 46:26you.
- 46:26And
- 46:26that
- 46:26was.
- 46:27That
- 46:27was
- 46:27a
- 46:27small
- 46:28one,
- 46:29but
- 46:29it
- 46:29was.
- 46:30It
- 46:30got
- 46:30amplified.
- 46:31You
- 46:31know,
- 46:31you
- 46:31get
- 46:31the
- 46:31thank
- 46:32yous.
- 46:32Hey,
- 46:33you
- 46:33randomly
- 46:34called
- 46:34me.
- 46:34And
- 46:35that's
- 46:35when
- 46:35I
- 46:35needed
- 46:35it.
- 46:36It's
- 46:37those
- 46:37small
- 46:37little
- 46:38human
- 46:38checkpoints.
- 46:39And
- 46:39I
- 46:40know
- 46:40that
- 46:40there's
- 46:40a
- 46:40movement
- 46:41there
- 46:42among
- 46:42our
- 46:42students,
- 46:43right?
- 46:43Checking
- 46:43in
- 46:43with
- 46:44our
- 46:44students,
- 46:45meeting
- 46:45them
- 46:45at
- 46:45the
- 46:45door
- 46:46threshold.
- 46:47What
- 46:47we
- 46:48don't
- 46:48understand
- 46:49is
- 46:49that
- 46:49that
- 46:49is
- 46:50so
- 46:50huge.
- 46:51Just
- 46:52to
- 46:52check
- 46:52in.
- 46:53And
- 46:54you
- 46:54may
- 46:54not
- 46:54hear
- 46:55the
- 46:55thank
- 46:56you,
- 46:56the
- 46:56gratitude.
- 46:57Just
- 46:57reminding
- 46:58other
- 46:58people
- 46:58that
- 46:59they're
- 46:59not
- 46:59alone
- 47:00is
- 47:00an
- 47:01act
- 47:01of
- 47:01courage.
- 47:02Back
- 47:03to
- 47:03Grant's
- 47:03point.
- 47:03It's
- 47:04an
- 47:04act
- 47:04of
- 47:04love
- 47:05and.
- 47:05Absolutely.
- 47:06And
- 47:06this
- 47:07Wheelhouse
- 47:08is
- 47:08all
- 47:08about
- 47:09if
- 47:09you're
- 47:09in
- 47:09an
- 47:10organization,
- 47:10you
- 47:10feel
- 47:11like
- 47:11you're
- 47:11doing
- 47:11it
- 47:11all
- 47:11alone.
- 47:12Right?
- 47:12And
- 47:13this
- 47:13is
- 47:13all
- 47:13about
- 47:14creating
- 47:15a
- 47:16community
- 47:16of
- 47:17like
- 47:17minded
- 47:17educators,
- 47:18as
- 47:18Terry
- 47:18calls
- 47:19it.
- 47:19A
- 47:20coalition.
- 47:21Right.
- 47:21A
- 47:21coalition,
- 47:22if
- 47:22you
- 47:22will.
- 47:23And
- 47:23we
- 47:23are.
- 47:24We
- 47:24always
- 47:24stand
- 47:25ready
- 47:25to
- 47:26assist.
- 47:27Terri,
- 47:27thank
- 47:28you
- 47:28so
- 47:28much
- 47:29for
- 47:29joining
- 47:29us
- 47:30today
- 47:30in
- 47:30the
- 47:31Wheelhouse.
- 47:31Thank
- 47:32you
- 47:32guys.
- 47:33And
- 47:34for
- 47:34all
- 47:34of
- 47:34you,
- 47:35have
- 47:35a
- 47:35great
- 47:35week.
- 47:42And
- 47:42that's
- 47:43a
- 47:43wrap
- 47:43of
- 47:43Season
- 47:4410
- 47:44Episode
- 47:449
- 47:45of
- 47:45the
- 47:45Wheelhouse.
- 47:46A
- 47:46special
- 47:47thank
- 47:47you
- 47:47to
- 47:47my
- 47:47amazing
- 47:48guest
- 47:48Terry
- 47:49Perez
- 47:50and
- 47:50the
- 47:50Wheelhouse
- 47:51team,
- 47:51Kathy
- 47:52Mone,
- 47:52Michael
- 47:53Piper
- 47:53and
- 47:53Dr.
- 47:54Alicia
- 47:54Munro.
- 47:55We're
- 47:56back
- 47:56in
- 47:56the
- 47:56studio
- 47:57next
- 47:57week
- 47:57with
- 47:57Dr.
- 47:57Kesha
- 47:58Chandler
- 47:59talking
- 47:59about
- 47:59her
- 48:00research
- 48:00the
- 48:01One
- 48:01Room
- 48:01Schoolhouse.
- 48:02Don't
- 48:03miss
- 48:03this
- 48:03exciting
- 48:04episode
- 48:04dropping
- 48:05on
- 48:05September
- 48:0516th.
- 48:07We
- 48:07also
- 48:08hope
- 48:08you'll
- 48:08join
- 48:08the
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- 48:09Company.
- 48:10Are
- 48:11you
- 48:11a
- 48:11like
- 48:11minded
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- 48:12who's
- 48:13committed
- 48:13to
- 48:13open
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- 48:14and
- 48:15unlimited
- 48:15possibilities
- 48:16for
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- 48:16student?
- 48:18Follow
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- 48:27you
- 48:27can
- 48:27subscribe
- 48:28to
- 48:28the
- 48:28Wheelhouse
- 48:29Chronicle
- 48:29on
- 48:29Substack.
- 48:30Michael's
- 48:31waiting
- 48:31to
- 48:31hear
- 48:32your
- 48:32comments
- 48:32and
- 48:32we're
- 48:33all
- 48:33excited
- 48:33to
- 48:34continue
- 48:34this
- 48:35conversation
- 48:36with
- 48:36you.
- 48:36That's
- 48:37the
- 48:37wheelhouse.substack.com
- 48:41and
- 48:41finally,
- 48:42join
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- 48:46at
- 48:46Students
- 48:46Matter's
- 48:47very
- 48:47own
- 48:48Learn
- 48:48Harbor.
- 48:49That's
- 48:50LearnHarbor
- 48:51Thinkification.
- 48:54The
- 48:54Wheelhouse
- 48:55is
- 48:55a
- 48:55production
- 48:55of
- 48:55Students
- 48:56Matter
- 48:56LLC.
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