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Areva Martin, acclaimed civil rights attorney, CNN Analyst, CEO: Butterfly Health & Autism Advocate · The Steve Harvey Morning Show

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Speaker 1: Rasche a long time don't see I'm so glad to
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Speaker 1: see you, and to see you right before the holidays
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Speaker 1: is like super super special for me. Well, they'll tell
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Speaker 1: you. You You know, this year has thrown me for atendity.
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Speaker 1: It's great seeing you. Um, you know. I had to
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Speaker 1: apply to the Planet place and all of a sudden
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Speaker 1: that march it and my plan with sideways, and I
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Speaker 1: was scared. I was scared the sister. I didn't know
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Speaker 1: what what the next three month will look like. I
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Speaker 1: had employed all yase I had to maintain on payroll.
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Speaker 1: I didn't see any income coming in the entire country
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Speaker 1: said hey, we're not doing any live events for the
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Speaker 1: second quarter. Advertisers pulled all of their advertisements from any
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Speaker 1: any schedule event that I was part of. And I
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Speaker 1: was just sitting there. I was like with the Home Depot.
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Speaker 1: My first out out was going to Home Depot, you know,
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Speaker 1: and I had my UH, I had my UH parrel,
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Speaker 1: but one little bottle I had left because you know
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Speaker 1: that all the shells were clear. And then I have
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Speaker 1: my rubber gloves and I had UH and I had
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Speaker 1: a ski mask that I pulled up because I didn't
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Speaker 1: have mask at the time. You know, you didn't know
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Speaker 1: what how did get a mask? And so when I
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Speaker 1: came out to the store, I didn't know to put
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Speaker 1: the parrel or take my gloves off. With the stuff
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Speaker 1: I brought out the store contaminated, I didn't know what
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Speaker 1: to do with REvil. I was just uh. That was
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Speaker 1: the world that I lived in. And I'm sure a
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Speaker 1: lot of people experienced that same uncertainty. How was it
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Speaker 1: in California still lockdown city or they in California? Right? Yeah,
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Speaker 1: you know, it's kind of interesting. In Rashote. I have
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Speaker 1: a lot of friends who are elected officials. So I
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Speaker 1: was getting this inside information about what was going to happen,
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Speaker 1: and I was telling friends, you know, get your business together, uh,
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Speaker 1: you know, go to your offices, clean it out. Because
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Speaker 1: I knew probably about a week in advance in March
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Speaker 1: that the lockdown they called it shelter in place was coming.
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Speaker 1: And I was getting a lot of resistance from people.
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Speaker 1: They're like, no, that's not gonna happen, and they do that,
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Speaker 1: and uh, for us, you know, I run my law
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Speaker 1: from here in Los Angeles. We had gone paperless the
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Speaker 1: year before, so taking our office virtually and sending everyone
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Speaker 1: home was really easy for us. Are nonprofit also made
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Speaker 1: an easy transition, but so many people uh suffered back
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Speaker 1: then and continue to suffer because they weren't able to
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Speaker 1: just transport their whole businesses and start operating them from home.
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Speaker 1: So it was scary. Uh. You know, I found myself
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Speaker 1: in the position of becoming that voice, that trusted voice,
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Speaker 1: trying to talk to people, you know, sharing with them
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Speaker 1: the side information I had, and trying to walk them
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Speaker 1: through the process. But it's been it's been overwhelming, to
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Speaker 1: be honest with you, Like I said, for me personally,
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Speaker 1: my my business hasn't suffered. None of the companies I
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Speaker 1: run have suffered. But I've watched so many people around
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Speaker 1: me lose their jobs, use their businesses. UH just had
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Speaker 1: to layout massive numbers of employees loose contracts. So it's
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Speaker 1: it's been kind of a mixed bag. I talked to
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Speaker 1: some people they're doing great, like game Busters, and then
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Speaker 1: other people who are literally just holding on by a thread.
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Speaker 1: And I think that's kind of the reality across this country.
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Speaker 1: That's from a business, very challenging, very challenging. Now from
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Speaker 1: a personal statement, I gave you my little COVID and
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Speaker 1: eighteen trying to adapt to the new norm back then.
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Speaker 1: And I'm a lot more comfortable now and actually have
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Speaker 1: flown on the airplane one time and massed down and
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Speaker 1: I said, in that chair and I scrubbed it down,
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Speaker 1: my little parral. I'm telling you you two, I was
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Speaker 1: aou do made service on my seat, and let's put
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Speaker 1: it that teammates made service. How was it for you personally?
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Speaker 1: You talked about the business personally, good thing, So I personally,
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Speaker 1: I was going up, says, this is March. So I
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Speaker 1: had started this really intense workout plan. I had, you know,
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Speaker 1: lots of plans for the year in terms of my career.
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Speaker 1: One of my personal goals, you know, was to get
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Speaker 1: into best shape of my life. And I was there,
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Speaker 1: and then when this all hit, I said, well, you know,
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Speaker 1: it's just gonna be gonna be locked down for a
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Speaker 1: couple of weeks, so I don't have to worry about
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Speaker 1: continuing this workout. I don't have to worry about continuing
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Speaker 1: this really healthy eating, I think. And I didn't really
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Speaker 1: even realize that I slid into kind of a state
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Speaker 1: of depression. After it went on for more than two
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Speaker 1: or three or four weeks. I gained probably that COVID
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Speaker 1: fifteen pounds that a lot of people ain't. I found
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Speaker 1: myself binging. I'm not a big TV person. I've watched
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Speaker 1: Queen of the South bene through it on Netflix, Ozark
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Speaker 1: Higher King one night, and this is when I knew
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Speaker 1: I was at an all time low. I was up
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Speaker 1: five in the morning binging on Ozar my dinner that
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Speaker 1: I have been a bag of potato chips and several
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Speaker 1: glasses of wine. And you know, something then hit me
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Speaker 1: that Okay, this is not temporary, this is gonna be
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Speaker 1: here for a while. And you can't you know, drink
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Speaker 1: your way through it with wine. You can't eat potato
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Speaker 1: chips with dinner. You can't watch you know, every you
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Speaker 1: know series on Netflix. You've got to figure out a
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Speaker 1: way to get back to something that looks normal for you.
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Speaker 1: So I dropped the fifteen pounds, I stopped eating the
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Speaker 1: potato chips. I haven't had a drinking like five months.
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Speaker 1: Not because it's a I just I'm just trying to
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Speaker 1: just be super healthy. Got back to some projects, started
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Speaker 1: you know, my uh weekly try weekly show on Facebook.
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Speaker 1: I'm working on a new book project, did a bunch
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Speaker 1: of auditions for some new other you know, TV broadcast projects,
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Speaker 1: and just have been trying to say how do you
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Speaker 1: live with COVID and did not control you, but you
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Speaker 1: take control of your life. And I feel like I'm
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Speaker 1: kind of there. I have said there, but I'm feeling better.
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Speaker 1: But I was. I was. I think I was upset
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Speaker 1: because I was prepared for the two or three weeks
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Speaker 1: which they told us originally the lockdown was going to be,
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Speaker 1: and then as it went from March to April to May,
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Speaker 1: by then I was like, Okay, this is some b S.
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Speaker 1: I might really fatigued by it, and you know, I
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Speaker 1: was just kind of rolling through the motions. I had
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Speaker 1: a low point when I went to visit a friend
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Speaker 1: and some pajama pants was pajamas. Yeah, what's what I want?
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Speaker 1: So you know, when you're walking out the house, getting
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Speaker 1: in the car, driving your pajamas, maybe it's time to like,
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Speaker 1: you know, pack yourself on the shelter and they get
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Speaker 1: it together girlfriend, one of those get it together from
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Speaker 1: all those fantastic poses and images we see on your
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Speaker 1: Instagram account. Now here's the thought process when you talk
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Speaker 1: about just uh, you know myself personally. I gained ten pounds, okay,
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Speaker 1: and I went from like eating one and a half
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Speaker 1: meals a day breakfast lunchon, then breakfast luncheon. Did my
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Speaker 1: wife was said, you want yes, I want breakfast, Yes,
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Speaker 1: I want lunch because we were locked down, and now
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Speaker 1: of a suddenly I've done so much do dealer just
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Speaker 1: have losing like twenty five pounds Suddenly I was at
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Speaker 1: two hundreds and went, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa whoa whoa.
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Speaker 1: Something is not normal here. You don't need breakfast, but
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Speaker 1: you're eating it and you're not even going out to
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Speaker 1: be able to burn it off because I was just home.
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Speaker 1: Usually you know, get up before I'm out of the
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Speaker 1: house is sick. So physically I was moving. I was
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Speaker 1: just getting up and just staying and eating and so
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Speaker 1: so that translated into weight games. So know that you are.
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Speaker 1: You had a lot of individuals out there in America
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Speaker 1: joining you in that weight game club because we're sitting down,
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Speaker 1: like you said, our lifestyles. You know me, I'm like
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Speaker 1: super active, I'm out, I'm always doing something. Like I said,
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Speaker 1: I worked out a lot. The gyms were closed, you know,
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Speaker 1: so you needed that discipline to get up and do
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Speaker 1: it outside on your own. And I just think psychologically
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Speaker 1: was so new, like like what's going on and you're
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Speaker 1: watching this these deaths. You know, you're just watching the
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Speaker 1: numbers climb and watching the death You're talking to friends
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Speaker 1: who are you know, have the virus, And it was
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Speaker 1: just a lot emotionally, I think for all of us
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Speaker 1: as Americans. That's why the food was comforted right and
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Speaker 1: Netflix was up. You said Tiger King, I had to
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Speaker 1: relate to you. I was the tiger kick, and so
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Speaker 1: from I would take some I saw when it came out,
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Speaker 1: I was like everybody know I didn't hear about that
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Speaker 1: kick when it hit the stands. I was right there
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Speaker 1: viewing it from jump and then it explode it because
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Speaker 1: that was one of the most amazing, uh doctor Docu
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Speaker 1: soap oppers I've ever realized soap poppers I've ever seen
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Speaker 1: in my life. But when when you think all of
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Speaker 1: us would have been watching Tiger King but for the pandemic. Oh,
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Speaker 1: but you know, it's like, I don't think so, but
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Speaker 1: I think that they still would have jumped out their
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Speaker 1: strong because that's that was some mess. That was something
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Speaker 1: that was some high faluting mess that people are still
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Speaker 1: look she wound up on Dancing with the Stars. Okay,
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Speaker 1: that's true, So that's how that's Or another from that
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Speaker 1: barfriend a husband that just got picked up on d U.
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Speaker 1: I charge the other guy who had like the harem.
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Speaker 1: You know, I think he got closed down. This is
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Speaker 1: always it just keeps rolling and rolling and rolling the rolling.
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Speaker 1: But but you we lived in life, or you know,
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Speaker 1: our relationship is always tied to your authenticity and your
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Speaker 1: auticy authenticity is always tied to journalism, your legal background
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Speaker 1: and the special report and the reason I really wanted
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Speaker 1: to bring you on the show about that because it's
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Speaker 1: your voice that we need in this in this media
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Speaker 1: and the era from a standpoint of who you are
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Speaker 1: and what you bring to the table. How did the
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Speaker 1: special report start and give us some background on how
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Speaker 1: people are reacting to it. No, that's a great question.
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Speaker 1: So what happened was that, like I said, I had
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Speaker 1: that insight information that l A was about to have
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Speaker 1: a lockdown order, so on like the second Friday in March,
10:52
Speaker 1: right before that order was going into effect that next weekend,
10:55
Speaker 1: I said, I want to go live on Facebook and
10:57
Speaker 1: just talk to people that I knew, you know, a
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Speaker 1: bunch of hundred thousand plus followers on Facebook and a
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Speaker 1: big social media platform, and everybody was, you know, nervous.
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Speaker 1: We didn't know what was coming. And because I had
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Speaker 1: this inside information, I said, I'm gonna go on and
11:12
Speaker 1: just let people know this kind of calm their nerves,
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Speaker 1: like this is okay, you know, get ready, it's coming.
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Speaker 1: It doesn't mean you can't go to the grocery store,
11:21
Speaker 1: doesn't mean you can't go to your doctor's offices. And
11:23
Speaker 1: just trying to you know, cushion the blow, so to speak,
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Speaker 1: for people. And the response was so positive that one
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Speaker 1: time and after about an hour, you know, it wasn't
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Speaker 1: enough time. So I said, don't worry, I'll come back
11:35
Speaker 1: on Monday and we'll continue this conversation. Because people were
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Speaker 1: posting comments and we were going back and forth, and
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Speaker 1: so I went back that Monday, uh and continue the conversation.
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Speaker 1: And people were saying, okay, are you coming back? And
11:47
Speaker 1: it was really as people say, can we tune in again?
11:51
Speaker 1: And I just said, you know what, right now, for
11:53
Speaker 1: the next again two weeks, I'll show up every Monday, Wednesday,
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Speaker 1: and Friday, and I'll tell you what I know from
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Speaker 1: my friends that work at the county, my friends that
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Speaker 1: worked at the City of Los Angeles, you know, my
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Speaker 1: friends that work in federal government. And I thought it
12:06
Speaker 1: was gonna be two weeks and were just telling people,
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Speaker 1: you know, this inside information that I had gotten from
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Speaker 1: all of these you know, high level elected officials, and
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Speaker 1: that two weeks went to three weeks, and that three
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Speaker 1: weeks went to four weeks, and here we are. We
12:18
Speaker 1: just celebrated one hundred shows. So we're back on our
12:20
Speaker 1: hundred and six shows. Because we went from the COVID
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Speaker 1: crisis and that just kind of dovetail right into what
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Speaker 1: was happening in the upcoming election. We went from COVID
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Speaker 1: to George Floyd because right there, there you go, it's
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Speaker 1: the summer we went from from We went from COVID
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Speaker 1: to the summer the summer protests, the global protests that
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Speaker 1: were happening all over the world. And so I was
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Speaker 1: reporting on CNN and reporting on the Special Report, talking
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Speaker 1: to you know, the activists on the street, talking to uh,
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Speaker 1: you know, law enforcement experts and legal experts, and again
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Speaker 1: just trying to help people understand what was mean and
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Speaker 1: what I try to do with the special report. Do
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Speaker 1: you know I've worked with all of these national experts
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Speaker 1: you know, on CNN and different other networks, is to
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Speaker 1: go through my contact list and say, hey, I know
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Speaker 1: you on CNN, MSNBC, but I need you to come
13:13
Speaker 1: over here and talk to real people. And then I
13:15
Speaker 1: pair those national experts up with real people. So you know,
13:20
Speaker 1: it's about one of the questions, one of the issues
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Speaker 1: that people who don't have access to these folks, and
13:25
Speaker 1: you know, they're not able to pick up the phone
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Speaker 1: and call them. So it was really trying to bring
13:30
Speaker 1: those two elements together because again, people you know, they
13:33
Speaker 1: turn on the news, they may get a three second
13:35
Speaker 1: sound bite, you know, and they're not getting to to
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Speaker 1: post a comment and ask a question or to engage
13:42
Speaker 1: with that expert. So the whole premise of the show
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Speaker 1: is giving real people that opportunity to have, you know,
13:47
Speaker 1: access to the nation's top experts on these tough issues,
13:51
Speaker 1: whether it's race, you know, like the George Floyd issue,
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Speaker 1: whether it's public health with COVID, whether it was the election,
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Speaker 1: and you know the election from George Floyd with went
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Speaker 1: right into that and all these issues have just gotta
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Speaker 1: merge together, right, So we and they never had a
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Speaker 1: defining moment of what was going on because it was
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Speaker 1: all done under the President of Trump leadership. You know,
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Speaker 1: the COVID, the denial, the uh you know, you can
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Speaker 1: inject you know, uh poison into your blood system, You'll
14:21
Speaker 1: be all right, you know, you can, don't have to
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Speaker 1: wear a mask. And when you got to the George Floyd,
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Speaker 1: when you got to lead that up into debate, when
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Speaker 1: you told the proud Proud boys to stand back and
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Speaker 1: stand down, you know, stand by, stand down, they put
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Speaker 1: that on T shirts and then you but let's talk
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Speaker 1: about race, because I really was you know, I have
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Speaker 1: I always talked to the the individual like that because you
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Speaker 1: didn't know, you know, from illegal this is your history
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Speaker 1: had such high acceptance levels. And I think George Floyd,
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Speaker 1: you know, people get shot in the back by police.
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Speaker 1: We've watched such brutality, but there was something about that
17:59
Speaker 1: eight men. It you know, for six second video the
18:03
Speaker 1: smug you know, look on that cop space. The others
18:07
Speaker 1: standing around who you know, did absolutely nothing. I think
18:11
Speaker 1: that touched people in a different way, and that's what
18:14
Speaker 1: propelled those huge numbers of the people that we saw
18:17
Speaker 1: on the street. And I think one of the things
18:19
Speaker 1: was they've always had that he resisted, you know, he
18:23
Speaker 1: was fighting, and we had to gain control of that individual.
18:26
Speaker 1: They saw somebody who physically couldn't do anything, but what
18:30
Speaker 1: he did was there was laid out and suffer and
18:33
Speaker 1: be murdered. And I think that was one of the because,
18:35
Speaker 1: like I said, we've seen the Eric Garner, we saw
18:37
Speaker 1: the Michael Brown's running and Eric Goner. He was trying
18:39
Speaker 1: to resist, so they put him in a chokehold and
18:41
Speaker 1: he died. They could say, who's trying to resist? This
18:44
Speaker 1: was just a man who's taking out his vehicle, then
18:47
Speaker 1: pushed up against his tire wheel and in his own car.
18:50
Speaker 1: And then God just sit there with a knee on
18:52
Speaker 1: his neck and adjusted his knee. That was the part
18:55
Speaker 1: that really traumatized me. The adjustment, which means that you
18:58
Speaker 1: had the point at that point that you could have
19:00
Speaker 1: relieve the pressure. You decided to put more pressure on that.
19:03
Speaker 1: And so so you're right in the midst of all
19:05
Speaker 1: lists of evil. You know, you know, your your your
19:07
Speaker 1: your show that you decided to do for two weeks.
19:10
Speaker 1: Now you are a voice all Facebook. Sometimes it's not
19:16
Speaker 1: you know. What you're looking for is the moment you
19:19
Speaker 1: know they find you. And I think it was that
19:21
Speaker 1: kind of that moment that found me. Uh. And you
19:24
Speaker 1: know who, I spent a lot of time talking to
19:25
Speaker 1: your shout over the last three or four months of
19:27
Speaker 1: white women in suburbs, you know, because white women in suburbs,
19:32
Speaker 1: we saw them out at the protests. We saw moms
19:36
Speaker 1: across this country get involved in those protests movements in
19:39
Speaker 1: a way that we hadn't seen them before. Uh. And
19:42
Speaker 1: then we saw those moms So I don't know, same
19:45
Speaker 1: moms say enough is enough. When it came to this
19:47
Speaker 1: election with Donald Trump, had to organize themselves. There were
19:51
Speaker 1: groups outside of Cincinnati, outside of a Cleveland, Ohio, in Wisconsin,
19:57
Speaker 1: other battleground states, white suburban women who didn't think of
20:00
Speaker 1: themselves as very political, but felt compelled in this election
20:05
Speaker 1: cycle to start organizing amongst themselves and to really speak
20:09
Speaker 1: out in a way that they hadn't before. So I
20:12
Speaker 1: really found that interesting getting their perspective, like why now,
20:15
Speaker 1: why in this moment when we know that in the election,
20:19
Speaker 1: they overwhelmingly voted for Donald Trump, and in this election
20:22
Speaker 1: they ended up being the margin. Uh you know, they're
20:26
Speaker 1: they're you know, flipping from Trump to Biden in those
20:28
Speaker 1: key battle ground states made a huge difference. Obviously, African
20:32
Speaker 1: American vote, you know, just incredibly important in this election.
20:36
Speaker 1: But white woman in the suburbs, you know, voted for
20:39
Speaker 1: Joe Biden in just enough voting block to cause him
20:44
Speaker 1: to win in some key critical states always hit very
20:48
Speaker 1: hard to governor Newsom by Donald Trump. Uh, you know,
20:52
Speaker 1: I just read a message. I believe that you know,
20:56
Speaker 1: dining indoor and outdoor dining, it's being banned. Okay, you
21:01
Speaker 1: lived there, what is the atmosphere? And I would I'll
21:05
Speaker 1: go back a little bit. I remember when Kobe Iron
21:07
Speaker 1: Bryant died, you know, unfortunately died. I have whatevery but
21:11
Speaker 1: that was just February this year, and I remember I
21:14
Speaker 1: came into l A and you know, his name was
21:15
Speaker 1: on all the buses and it was like a ghost
21:19
Speaker 1: townt emotionally, you know, and then then this then this
21:23
Speaker 1: COVID hit and shut the city down, and then you know, uh,
21:28
Speaker 1: the amusement parks can't even reopen. And I was just
21:31
Speaker 1: there like two. I came in and out real quick
21:34
Speaker 1: for a trip, and people are getting around, you know,
21:38
Speaker 1: outdoor dining, and I think I went to Javier's and uh,
21:41
Speaker 1: Central City, Uh there and uh, you know they're they're
21:45
Speaker 1: kind of like outdoors anyway, so they were packed. And
21:48
Speaker 1: now I hit this note that you know, you cannot
21:51
Speaker 1: eat indoor outdoor. How does in your mindset, is that
21:55
Speaker 1: too much a rever Is it like, Okay, what's going
21:58
Speaker 1: on here? Now we gotta be able to live? What?
22:01
Speaker 1: What is too much? Too much? Here's what happened. I
22:05
Speaker 1: think that the poor leadership from the national level shot
22:09
Speaker 1: has has just caused people to reach a level of fatigue.
22:13
Speaker 1: You know, at the beginning of this pandemic. Rather than
22:16
Speaker 1: Trump coming out being honest with the people, enacting coming
22:20
Speaker 1: up with a national strategy and enacting that national strategy,
22:24
Speaker 1: he hid it from the people. He died about it.
22:26
Speaker 1: They kept moving the goal post. Uh. He failed to
22:29
Speaker 1: you know, come up with a national strategy. He politicized
22:32
Speaker 1: something that simple was wearing a mask and socially distancing,
22:36
Speaker 1: and so now people are fatigued, they're fed up with it.
22:39
Speaker 1: You're right, we're about to go into another lockdown where
22:41
Speaker 1: you can only you can't dine outside. You will only
22:44
Speaker 1: be able to do take out and pick up from restaurants.
22:47
Speaker 1: Restaurants are barely holding on. They're holding on by a thread.
22:50
Speaker 1: The money that was allocated, you know, from the Cares
22:53
Speaker 1: Act in the summer, all that money's gone basically, so
22:57
Speaker 1: restaurants are you know, many of them won't survive this shutdown.
23:01
Speaker 1: They won't come back. The restaurant industry is being forever change.
23:05
Speaker 1: But here's the deal. Because we botched it, we now
23:09
Speaker 1: all have to pay a price, and you and I
23:11
Speaker 1: are in a social contract. I can't do you know,
23:14
Speaker 1: I shouldn't do anything that harms you. You shouldn't do
23:17
Speaker 1: anything that harms me. As much as I hate this,
23:20
Speaker 1: as much as everyone hates it, this is what we
23:23
Speaker 1: have at this moment. We don't have the vaccine, We
23:26
Speaker 1: don't have an ability to slow the spread other than
23:30
Speaker 1: to take some kind of public health measures. And the
23:33
Speaker 1: public health experts are saying closing the restaurants, because that's
23:36
Speaker 1: where this public spread happens is what we have available
23:39
Speaker 1: to us. Uh, it stinks. People are upset about it.
23:43
Speaker 1: There were protests outside of the mayor's house. They've been
23:46
Speaker 1: protests in the streets. People feel like their rights are
23:48
Speaker 1: being infringed upon. But what I try to get people
23:51
Speaker 1: to understand is, look, the government already is in our lives.
23:55
Speaker 1: Where a seatbelt right, that's the government. Don't go past
23:59
Speaker 1: sixty miles an hour on the freeway, that's the government.
24:03
Speaker 1: You can't drink until you're twenty one in most states,
24:05
Speaker 1: that's the government. You can't vote until your eighteen, that's
24:08
Speaker 1: the government. So this notion that wearing a mask and
24:11
Speaker 1: socially distances puts the government in our lives in an
24:14
Speaker 1: intrusive way, that's just false. You know, government is already
24:19
Speaker 1: in our lives. And when you look at those two
24:21
Speaker 1: hundred fifty thousand people, we've lost their lives. I say,
24:25
Speaker 1: this is a small price to pay, although it's difficult,
24:28
Speaker 1: and I want to minimize the pain that people are feeling.
24:31
Speaker 1: A business owner, someone who has you know, severe isolation
24:34
Speaker 1: and depression. But if we don't do something, or we
24:37
Speaker 1: will will you know, we're willing to as a country
24:40
Speaker 1: to say five thousand people dead, twenty million people in
24:43
Speaker 1: fact it and until Biden and Hairs get into office
24:48
Speaker 1: and get the scientists back in charge, we're all going
24:51
Speaker 1: to have to make tremendous sacrifices. And I just encourage
24:54
Speaker 1: people to look at it that way. The light is
24:56
Speaker 1: at the end of this tunnel. It's coming. It's the
25:00
Speaker 1: right now as being blocked by Donald Trump. So if
25:02
Speaker 1: you can get them a slide left or right, we
25:04
Speaker 1: can see that light. It's really interesting when you were
25:06
Speaker 1: saying that about you know, speed limits, and because some
25:09
Speaker 1: people could say, you know, it's infringing them our rights
25:12
Speaker 1: because I never would drive past sixty five. You know,
25:14
Speaker 1: I never drive past fifty five. I drive accordingly in
25:18
Speaker 1: school zonns whilere you why are you why are you
25:20
Speaker 1: forcing me to live like this? And that's very true.
25:23
Speaker 1: What you're saying is that, look, there's there's there's a
25:26
Speaker 1: right and the wrong in life, you know, and we
25:28
Speaker 1: all put rules in place to protect the masses, not
25:31
Speaker 1: always saying the individual. You can live right like I'm
25:34
Speaker 1: not gonna I don't own a gun, so I'm not
25:35
Speaker 1: more likely I'm not gonna shoot anybody in my lifetime.
25:38
Speaker 1: But there are people who do own guns, and you
25:40
Speaker 1: have to have gun loss to stop from just shoot
25:42
Speaker 1: anybody when they feel like it. But you know, when
25:44
Speaker 1: you when you think about all the things that you're
25:46
Speaker 1: doing a rever and this special report, and and and
25:49
Speaker 1: being able to launch, and you're saying congratulations over there,
25:52
Speaker 1: one hundred episodes, if you've taped so far, what's just
25:54
Speaker 1: the future of this opportunity that you're doing on Facebook. Well,
25:59
Speaker 1: you know, I hope that he continues to grow. We
26:01
Speaker 1: we've been growing. The audience we've been the guests have
26:04
Speaker 1: just been phenomenal. I've been blowing away myself by some
26:07
Speaker 1: of not just the experts, because, like I said, a
26:09
Speaker 1: lot of contacts with those, but some of the real people.
26:12
Speaker 1: I've had the most amazing conversation with Oscar Grant's mother,
26:16
Speaker 1: Wanda Grant. She, you know, her struggle with her son, Oscar,
26:21
Speaker 1: who was killed by uh, you know, transit police uh
26:24
Speaker 1: in northern California, turned into that big movie, you know,
26:27
Speaker 1: Fruitville Station with Michael B. Jordan and I take Andrew
26:33
Speaker 1: Bland's sister, you know, who talked about what that tragedy
26:36
Speaker 1: was like for her family and going through such a
26:39
Speaker 1: public funeral and having to grieve your sister in such
26:43
Speaker 1: a public way. Uh. There's like a guy named Keith
26:46
Speaker 1: Grant who's been on my show a couple of times.
26:48
Speaker 1: He lost his father and his grandfather on the same
26:51
Speaker 1: day from COVID and he learned, you know, in that
26:54
Speaker 1: short period of time, his mother had COVID and several
26:58
Speaker 1: of his brothers and sisters including him them. So, you know,
27:01
Speaker 1: families like that just ravaged by COVID. On one of
27:04
Speaker 1: the state legislators in Michigan who was in the Michigan
27:07
Speaker 1: State House when those armed militia came and threatened, you know,
27:12
Speaker 1: the state legislators. So just having a chance to sit
27:16
Speaker 1: down and talk to those people and learn about their
27:19
Speaker 1: experiences has just been an amazing way for me to
27:22
Speaker 1: manage my own mental health issues during this period. So
27:26
Speaker 1: I just want to keep bringing those stories, you know.
27:28
Speaker 1: I just want to keep connecting with real people like
27:31
Speaker 1: that and giving them an opportunity to share their story.
27:34
Speaker 1: Some of the thank you notes I get from guests
27:36
Speaker 1: again and even my experts, you know, because the experts
27:39
Speaker 1: go on national television and local television and they get
27:42
Speaker 1: two minutes to talk you know, but they come on
27:44
Speaker 1: a specially when they go a fifteen minute interview where
27:47
Speaker 1: they really get to explain themselves, uh and answer questions
27:51
Speaker 1: and again talk to real people. And one of the
27:54
Speaker 1: big issues now that I'm so focused on, laser focused on,
27:57
Speaker 1: is the vaccine. Seventy person of the African Americans say
28:00
Speaker 1: they won't take the vaccine. And unless we have you know,
28:04
Speaker 1: well over fifty percent of the Americans who take it,
28:07
Speaker 1: it won't be effective. And there's been not nearly enough
28:12
Speaker 1: conversations happening in the black community with experts, with influencers
28:15
Speaker 1: like you, with celebrities about the vaccine. So we just
28:20
Speaker 1: did a show this week. We've done multiple shows on
28:22
Speaker 1: the vaccine, and that's an area where you know, I'm
28:25
Speaker 1: dedicated to, uh, you know, helping people understand what the
28:29
Speaker 1: safety issues are, but hopefully helping people feel more comfortable
28:33
Speaker 1: once the data is out, once the research has been
28:36
Speaker 1: you know, vetted upwards and backwards and left wards and
28:39
Speaker 1: right from people we trust, you know, people we trust,
28:43
Speaker 1: getting people to understand how important it's going to be
28:46
Speaker 1: if we ever want to get back to anything that
28:48
Speaker 1: looks like normal. And I don't even know what the
28:50
Speaker 1: new normal will look like. But if we want to
28:52
Speaker 1: get you know, back to restaurants, back to movie theaters,
28:55
Speaker 1: you know, movie theaters decimated, we're gonna have to you know,
28:59
Speaker 1: increase the number of people in this country who are
29:01
Speaker 1: willing to get vaccinated, and black people in particular. Let's
29:04
Speaker 1: talk about Butterfly Health. You know Next Cube maul and Evans.
29:08
Speaker 1: I interviewed him on the show. So when I started
29:10
Speaker 1: pop up on your your just Malan Stanford University. Let's
29:15
Speaker 1: talk about it. He's he's the CEO of next Cube.
29:19
Speaker 1: When they go out there and they fund tech and
29:21
Speaker 1: health oriented platforms, and that's what Butterfly Health is a
29:26
Speaker 1: is a health oriented platform. Talk about how that relationship
29:29
Speaker 1: came together and exactly what is Butterfly Health. So you
29:32
Speaker 1: know Roy Shaun from knowing me. I'm a serial entrepreneur.
29:35
Speaker 1: So you know, I can't sit down without you know,
29:38
Speaker 1: starting something new. So people ask me, what did I do?
29:42
Speaker 1: You know in the quarantine, I've written a new book,
29:45
Speaker 1: I started a digital talk show and I started We're
29:48
Speaker 1: talking about Butterfly Health with my brother. My brother Uh
29:52
Speaker 1: is a tech entrepreneur. He's had two successful excess from
29:55
Speaker 1: tech companies, and I had this idea because you know,
29:58
Speaker 1: the work I do around are too is them in
30:00
Speaker 1: special needs. I come into contact with so many caregivers
30:03
Speaker 1: and the issue of mental health. I really started thinking
30:06
Speaker 1: about this last year at the end of last year
30:08
Speaker 1: before COVID UH and just how impacted the families I
30:12
Speaker 1: dealt with were with mental health issues. And I called
30:15
Speaker 1: my brother and I said, hey, look, I got this idea.
30:18
Speaker 1: I said, can I send you this nondisclosure agreement before
30:20
Speaker 1: I tell you? Know? You didn't he said, I won't
30:26
Speaker 1: tell you what he says, Yes, I tell you. After
30:30
Speaker 1: a few choice words, I got him to agree that
30:34
Speaker 1: I could send him his son and he would advise
30:38
Speaker 1: me on it. We're talking about it, and he gave
30:41
Speaker 1: me a sense about you know why I needed someone
30:45
Speaker 1: like him because despite all of my himself to d
30:49
Speaker 1: A and so, he uh told me that, you know,
30:55
Speaker 1: for a percentage of my company, he would uh come
30:59
Speaker 1: in as a old founder and the CEO. So that's
31:03
Speaker 1: what brought the brothers sister team together. But uh, you
31:06
Speaker 1: know it's it's a digital therapeutic application available on iOS
31:12
Speaker 1: and Android, and it's targeted to the medicaid population. We
31:16
Speaker 1: grew up poor. You know my story North say Angels
31:19
Speaker 1: on surviving on food stamps, on medicaid ourselves. So we
31:23
Speaker 1: wanted to deliver and develop a product targeted specifically for
31:27
Speaker 1: that market place. And that's what Butterfly doesn't. And Next Queue, UH,
31:30
Speaker 1: they invest in early start up healthcare companies and UH
31:35
Speaker 1: one of our advisors referred us to Marlon and Next
31:38
Speaker 1: Cube and they, you know, we went through an application
31:41
Speaker 1: process and so they now have invested in the company.
31:44
Speaker 1: We went through an accelerated program with them. We've gotten
31:46
Speaker 1: investments from start Up Health, We've gotten investments from investment
31:51
Speaker 1: fund in Tennessee called Jumpstart Foundery, and so we are
31:56
Speaker 1: building the company. We're in conversations with major health plans
32:00
Speaker 1: as well as health systems like Kaiser about rolling the
32:03
Speaker 1: platform out at the beginning of next year. All of
32:06
Speaker 1: these companies are clamoring for a solution to address health
32:10
Speaker 1: equity issues, to address you know, underserved population. So from
32:14
Speaker 1: a timing standpoint, you've got a tsunami and mental health
32:17
Speaker 1: issues happening because of COVID and the social unrest, and
32:21
Speaker 1: you have health companies who said we are committed to
32:24
Speaker 1: diversity and inclusion in ways you know, perhaps they hadn't
32:28
Speaker 1: been in the past. So you have those two things colliding,
32:31
Speaker 1: creating some tremendous opportunities for us to one raise a
32:35
Speaker 1: lot of capital for Butterfly and then to roll it
32:37
Speaker 1: out and to have an impact on the lives of
32:39
Speaker 1: people who desperately needed. So super excited about that. Well,
32:44
Speaker 1: it's been thirty minutes of a good conversation with a friend. Uh,
32:48
Speaker 1: we've know this. I do a lot of national shows.
32:53
Speaker 1: A Black news channel has me on like one them
32:55
Speaker 1: up talking about the COVID and the financial situation and
32:57
Speaker 1: how Black America has to deal with the crisis that's
33:01
Speaker 1: not being funded properly by our Democrats or Republicans. So
33:04
Speaker 1: if you ever want me on your show, I'd love
33:07
Speaker 1: to come on your show. I watched it. Uh, you's
33:09
Speaker 1: such a highly respect yourself. We will work out the
33:12
Speaker 1: details work. I will come over there strictly talking about
33:15
Speaker 1: the financial side and the budgets and what's not happening
33:19
Speaker 1: and why they won't pass this bill and they need
33:21
Speaker 1: to stop trying to They're not gonna get these functions
33:24
Speaker 1: on dollars a week. I'm just gonna tell you that
33:25
Speaker 1: right now. Now it's not gonna happen, but they can't.
33:27
Speaker 1: They should be giving them something because there's some big
33:29
Speaker 1: tax bills that are going to be coming this way.
33:31
Speaker 1: Two thirty one menth of January is gonna really cripple
33:35
Speaker 1: not only America, because especially in the Black community, because
33:37
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33:39
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