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- 0:00Foreign.
- 0:05Welcome
- 0:05back,
- 0:06my
- 0:06friends,
- 0:06to
- 0:06another
- 0:06episode
- 0:07of
- 0:07Pearls
- 0:08and
- 0:08Prep.
- 0:08Npz.
- 0:09Here,
- 0:09your
- 0:09preceptor
- 0:10in
- 0:10your
- 0:10pocket,
- 0:11your
- 0:11go
- 0:11to
- 0:11place
- 0:12for
- 0:12pearls
- 0:12that
- 0:13prep
- 0:13you
- 0:13to
- 0:13practice.
- 0:14Well,
- 0:14back
- 0:15by
- 0:15popular
- 0:15demand,
- 0:16we
- 0:17have
- 0:17a
- 0:17board
- 0:18bomb
- 0:18for
- 0:18you,
- 0:19my
- 0:19friends.
- 0:20This
- 0:20one
- 0:21is
- 0:21going
- 0:21to
- 0:22challenge
- 0:22us
- 0:22to
- 0:23assess
- 0:23risk,
- 0:24particularly
- 0:25risk
- 0:25as
- 0:26it
- 0:26relates
- 0:26to
- 0:26tardive
- 0:27dyskinesia.
- 0:28And
- 0:28for
- 0:28those
- 0:29of
- 0:29you
- 0:29that
- 0:29study
- 0:30ancient
- 0:30Greek,
- 0:31you
- 0:31might
- 0:32have
- 0:32an
- 0:32idea
- 0:33that
- 0:33tardive
- 0:34dyskinesia
- 0:34means
- 0:35late
- 0:36abnormal
- 0:37movements.
- 0:37That's
- 0:37right.
- 0:37The
- 0:38tardive
- 0:39part
- 0:39of
- 0:39that
- 0:40is
- 0:40kind
- 0:40of
- 0:40like
- 0:40when
- 0:41your
- 0:41friends
- 0:41say,
- 0:41hey,
- 0:42you're
- 0:42tardy,
- 0:43you're
- 0:43late.
- 0:44Why
- 0:44are
- 0:44you
- 0:44so
- 0:44tardy?
- 0:46We've
- 0:46been.
- 0:46We
- 0:47already
- 0:47ordered
- 0:47the
- 0:47appetizer.
- 0:49The
- 0:49ceviche's
- 0:50here.
- 0:51What
- 0:51are
- 0:51you
- 0:52doing?
- 0:52You
- 0:52were
- 0:52supposed
- 0:52to
- 0:53be
- 0:53here
- 0:53an
- 0:53hour
- 0:53ago.
- 0:55Tardive
- 0:56late
- 0:57dis
- 0:59D
- 0:59Y
- 0:59S
- 1:00Ancient
- 1:01Greek,
- 1:01I
- 1:01believe,
- 1:02meaning
- 1:03abnormal.
- 1:04Like
- 1:04you
- 1:04just
- 1:04got
- 1:05dissed
- 1:06or
- 1:06this
- 1:06is.
- 1:06This
- 1:07family
- 1:07is
- 1:07dysfunctional.
- 1:10I
- 1:10am
- 1:10dissatisfied
- 1:11with
- 1:12you.
- 1:13Okay?
- 1:14Dis
- 1:15is
- 1:15bad.
- 1:15Usually
- 1:17rappers,
- 1:18they
- 1:18release
- 1:18diss
- 1:19tracks.
- 1:21Eminem,
- 1:21Moby.
- 1:22You
- 1:22remember
- 1:22those
- 1:23days?
- 1:24Can't
- 1:24even
- 1:24say
- 1:24what
- 1:24he
- 1:25said
- 1:25about
- 1:25Moby
- 1:25back
- 1:26then.
- 1:27Okay,
- 1:28and
- 1:28then
- 1:28kinesia
- 1:29is
- 1:29movement,
- 1:30right?
- 1:30Kinetics,
- 1:31kinesia.
- 1:32Now,
- 1:32this
- 1:32is
- 1:32not
- 1:32a
- 1:32language
- 1:33episode,
- 1:34but
- 1:34I
- 1:34do
- 1:35like
- 1:35to
- 1:36make
- 1:36things
- 1:37so
- 1:38that
- 1:38you
- 1:38don't
- 1:39forget
- 1:39them.
- 1:40So
- 1:41tardive
- 1:41dyskinesia,
- 1:42I
- 1:43want
- 1:43you
- 1:43to
- 1:43think
- 1:43of
- 1:43that
- 1:44ceviche
- 1:44platter,
- 1:46your
- 1:46friend
- 1:47who
- 1:47thought
- 1:47he
- 1:48was
- 1:48better
- 1:48than
- 1:48you
- 1:48and
- 1:48got
- 1:49to
- 1:49dinner
- 1:50late.
- 1:51I
- 1:51want
- 1:51you
- 1:51to
- 1:51think
- 1:52of
- 1:52the
- 1:52Eminem
- 1:52dis
- 1:53track.
- 1:54And
- 1:55then
- 1:55I
- 1:55want
- 1:55you
- 1:55to
- 1:55think
- 1:55of
- 1:56kinesia
- 1:56or
- 1:57movement.
- 1:57So
- 1:57there's
- 1:58no
- 1:58mnemonic
- 1:59at
- 1:59all
- 1:59there
- 1:59at
- 1:59all.
- 1:59So.
- 2:00But
- 2:01anyway,
- 2:02so
- 2:02tardive
- 2:03dyskinesia,
- 2:04it's
- 2:04a
- 2:04major
- 2:05problem.
- 2:05It's
- 2:05very
- 2:06stigmatizing.
- 2:06People
- 2:07have
- 2:07a
- 2:07very
- 2:07hard
- 2:07time
- 2:08speaking.
- 2:09They're
- 2:10afraid
- 2:10to
- 2:10go
- 2:10out
- 2:10in
- 2:11public
- 2:11because
- 2:13the
- 2:13movements
- 2:14can
- 2:14be
- 2:14very.
- 2:16I
- 2:16don't
- 2:16want
- 2:16to
- 2:16use
- 2:17the
- 2:17word
- 2:17outrageous,
- 2:17but
- 2:18they.
- 2:18They
- 2:18can
- 2:18be
- 2:19just
- 2:19very
- 2:21blatant,
- 2:22right?
- 2:22Lip
- 2:23smacking
- 2:23and
- 2:24blinking
- 2:24excessively
- 2:25and
- 2:27kind
- 2:27of
- 2:27slithering
- 2:28around
- 2:29in
- 2:29your
- 2:29chair.
- 2:30Those
- 2:30trunk.
- 2:31Your
- 2:31trunk
- 2:31is
- 2:32just
- 2:32kind
- 2:32of
- 2:32wildly
- 2:32gyrating.
- 2:33So
- 2:34these
- 2:34are.
- 2:34These
- 2:34are
- 2:34very
- 2:35disabling
- 2:35movements.
- 2:36And
- 2:37we
- 2:37have
- 2:37to
- 2:37be
- 2:38very
- 2:38strong
- 2:39guardians
- 2:40and
- 2:40advocates
- 2:41for
- 2:41our
- 2:41patients
- 2:41because
- 2:42this
- 2:42is
- 2:42no
- 2:42picnic.
- 2:43And
- 2:43so
- 2:43your
- 2:44challenge
- 2:44today
- 2:44with
- 2:44this
- 2:45bork
- 2:45bomb
- 2:46is,
- 2:46let's
- 2:47say
- 2:47you
- 2:47have
- 2:47a
- 2:47slot
- 2:48open
- 2:48tomorrow.
- 2:49You
- 2:49can
- 2:49only
- 2:49see
- 2:50one
- 2:50patient
- 2:50in
- 2:51that
- 2:51slot
- 2:51that
- 2:51opened
- 2:52up
- 2:52and
- 2:52you
- 2:52want
- 2:52to
- 2:52do
- 2:53a
- 2:53tardive
- 2:54dyskinesia
- 2:55deep
- 2:56dive.
- 2:56You
- 2:56want
- 2:56to
- 2:57assess
- 2:57which
- 2:58of
- 2:58these
- 2:58five
- 2:58patients
- 2:59is
- 3:00most
- 3:00at
- 3:00risk
- 3:00for
- 3:01td
- 3:02and
- 3:02you're
- 3:02going
- 3:02to
- 3:03do
- 3:03an
- 3:03Ames
- 3:03assessment
- 3:04on
- 3:04them.
- 3:05That's
- 3:05the
- 3:05Abnormal
- 3:07Involuntary
- 3:07movement
- 3:08scale,
- 3:09the
- 3:0912
- 3:10item
- 3:10assessment
- 3:11tool
- 3:11that
- 3:12you
- 3:12use
- 3:12to
- 3:12determine
- 3:13the
- 3:13severity
- 3:13of
- 3:14tardive
- 3:14dyskinesia
- 3:15and
- 3:15those
- 3:15movements.
- 3:16So
- 3:16you
- 3:16get
- 3:16one
- 3:16of
- 3:17these
- 3:17five
- 3:17patients
- 3:18only
- 3:18you
- 3:18got
- 3:19to
- 3:19pick
- 3:19the
- 3:19highest
- 3:19risk
- 3:20and
- 3:20they're
- 3:20going
- 3:20to
- 3:20come
- 3:20in
- 3:21for
- 3:2130
- 3:21or
- 3:2160
- 3:22minutes
- 3:22for
- 3:22you
- 3:22to
- 3:23do
- 3:23an
- 3:23AIMS
- 3:24assessment
- 3:24on
- 3:24them.
- 3:25So
- 3:25my
- 3:25question
- 3:25to
- 3:26you,
- 3:26my
- 3:26friends
- 3:27is
- 3:27which
- 3:27one
- 3:27of
- 3:27these
- 3:28five
- 3:28patients
- 3:29are
- 3:29you
- 3:29going
- 3:29to
- 3:29pick
- 3:29as
- 3:30the
- 3:30highest
- 3:30risk
- 3:30that
- 3:31you
- 3:31need
- 3:31to
- 3:31see
- 3:31tomorrow?
- 3:33Okay.
- 3:33And
- 3:33this
- 3:34little
- 3:34thought
- 3:34exercise,
- 3:35this
- 3:35little
- 3:35board
- 3:35bomb.
- 3:36So
- 3:36are
- 3:37you
- 3:37going
- 3:37to
- 3:37see
- 3:37patient
- 3:38A,
- 3:38a
- 3:3828
- 3:39year
- 3:39old
- 3:39male
- 3:39with
- 3:40schizophrenia
- 3:40who
- 3:40was
- 3:41started
- 3:41on
- 3:41Risperidol
- 3:424mg
- 3:423
- 3:43months
- 3:43ago?
- 3:44Are
- 3:45you
- 3:45going
- 3:45to
- 3:45see
- 3:45patient
- 3:46B,
- 3:46a
- 3:4772
- 3:47year
- 3:47old
- 3:47female
- 3:48with
- 3:48major
- 3:49depressive
- 3:49disorder
- 3:50on
- 3:50low
- 3:50dose
- 3:50Abilify
- 3:51for
- 3:51six
- 3:52months
- 3:52as
- 3:52adjunctive
- 3:53therapy?
- 3:54Are
- 3:54you
- 3:54going
- 3:54to
- 3:55see
- 3:55Patient
- 3:56C,
- 3:56a
- 3:5635
- 3:57year
- 3:57old
- 3:57female
- 3:58with
- 3:58bipolar
- 3:591,
- 3:59on
- 3:59Seroquel
- 4:00600
- 4:01a
- 4:01day
- 4:01for
- 4:02two
- 4:02years?
- 4:03Are
- 4:03you
- 4:03going
- 4:03to
- 4:03see
- 4:04patient
- 4:04D,
- 4:05a
- 4:0545
- 4:06year
- 4:06old
- 4:06male
- 4:06with
- 4:06schizophrenia,
- 4:07recently
- 4:08switched
- 4:08from
- 4:09Haldol
- 4:09to
- 4:10Clozapine
- 4:11after
- 4:1110
- 4:12years
- 4:13of
- 4:13Haldol
- 4:14use,
- 4:14that's
- 4:15a
- 4:15first
- 4:15generation
- 4:15antipsychotic.
- 4:17Or
- 4:17are
- 4:17you
- 4:17going
- 4:18to
- 4:18see
- 4:18patient
- 4:18E,
- 4:19a
- 4:1932
- 4:20year
- 4:20old
- 4:20male
- 4:20with
- 4:21schizophrenia
- 4:22on
- 4:22Zyprexa
- 4:2220
- 4:23milligrams
- 4:23a
- 4:23day
- 4:24for
- 4:24five
- 4:24years?
- 4:25Okay,
- 4:26you
- 4:26can
- 4:27pause
- 4:27this,
- 4:27you
- 4:27can
- 4:27get
- 4:28into
- 4:28your
- 4:28breakout
- 4:29groups,
- 4:29discuss
- 4:30with
- 4:30your
- 4:30peers,
- 4:31your
- 4:31professors.
- 4:33So
- 4:34my
- 4:34friends,
- 4:35what
- 4:36this
- 4:36question
- 4:37is
- 4:37trying
- 4:37to
- 4:37tease
- 4:38out
- 4:38specifically
- 4:39is
- 4:39very
- 4:39simple.
- 4:41Do
- 4:41you
- 4:41understand
- 4:42what
- 4:42the
- 4:43highest
- 4:43risk
- 4:44factor
- 4:45is
- 4:45in
- 4:45developing
- 4:46tardive
- 4:46dyskinesia?
- 4:47Plain
- 4:48and
- 4:48simple.
- 4:49Right?
- 4:49And
- 4:49you
- 4:50have
- 4:50a
- 4:50lot
- 4:50of
- 4:50variables
- 4:51here
- 4:51that
- 4:51were
- 4:51shared
- 4:52with
- 4:52you
- 4:52throughout
- 4:53these
- 4:53questions.
- 4:54No
- 4:54need
- 4:54to
- 4:54memorize
- 4:54them.
- 4:55I
- 4:55know
- 4:55I
- 4:55just
- 4:55kind
- 4:55of
- 4:55gave
- 4:56you
- 4:56a
- 4:56mouthful
- 4:56of
- 4:56choices.
- 4:58But
- 4:58you
- 4:58have
- 4:59the
- 4:59patient's
- 4:59ages,
- 5:00you
- 5:00have
- 5:00the
- 5:00patient's
- 5:01genders,
- 5:01you
- 5:02have
- 5:02the
- 5:02patient's
- 5:02diagnosis,
- 5:03whether
- 5:03it's
- 5:04schizophrenia
- 5:04or
- 5:05major
- 5:05depressive
- 5:05disorder.
- 5:06You
- 5:06have
- 5:06the
- 5:06dose
- 5:07of
- 5:07the
- 5:07medications
- 5:08they're
- 5:08on,
- 5:08you
- 5:08have
- 5:08the
- 5:08medications
- 5:09that
- 5:09are
- 5:09on,
- 5:09you
- 5:10have
- 5:10the
- 5:10duration
- 5:11of
- 5:11the
- 5:11medications
- 5:12they're
- 5:12on.
- 5:12So
- 5:13somewhere
- 5:13in
- 5:13that
- 5:14question
- 5:14it's
- 5:15trying
- 5:15to
- 5:15tease
- 5:15out
- 5:16do
- 5:16you
- 5:16know
- 5:16the
- 5:16single
- 5:17greatest
- 5:17risk
- 5:17factor?
- 5:18And
- 5:18the
- 5:18good
- 5:18news
- 5:19is
- 5:19if
- 5:19you
- 5:19do
- 5:19know
- 5:20what
- 5:20that
- 5:20is,
- 5:21you
- 5:21don't
- 5:21really
- 5:21have
- 5:21to
- 5:21go
- 5:22into
- 5:22the
- 5:22weeds
- 5:23with
- 5:23respect
- 5:23to
- 5:24what
- 5:24are
- 5:24all
- 5:24these
- 5:24meds,
- 5:25what
- 5:25do
- 5:25they
- 5:25do.
- 5:26What
- 5:26are
- 5:26their
- 5:26D2
- 5:26affinities?
- 5:28You
- 5:28don't
- 5:28have
- 5:28to
- 5:28even
- 5:29know
- 5:29that,
- 5:29because
- 5:29the
- 5:30answer
- 5:30is
- 5:30actually
- 5:31shockingly
- 5:32fast
- 5:32and
- 5:32simple.
- 5:32If
- 5:33you
- 5:33know
- 5:33that
- 5:33risk
- 5:34factor.
- 5:34Okay,
- 5:35and
- 5:35I'll
- 5:35just
- 5:35go
- 5:35ahead
- 5:35and
- 5:36tell
- 5:36it
- 5:36to
- 5:36you,
- 5:36and
- 5:37we
- 5:37can
- 5:37go
- 5:37into
- 5:37the
- 5:38details
- 5:38here,
- 5:39but
- 5:39the
- 5:39single
- 5:40greatest
- 5:40risk
- 5:41factor
- 5:41for
- 5:41developing
- 5:42TD
- 5:43is
- 5:43not
- 5:43the
- 5:44kind
- 5:44of
- 5:44antipsychotic
- 5:45you're
- 5:45on.
- 5:45Although
- 5:46that
- 5:46is
- 5:46relevant.
- 5:47Um,
- 5:48it's
- 5:48not
- 5:48the
- 5:49dose,
- 5:49although
- 5:50that
- 5:50is
- 5:50also
- 5:50relevant.
- 5:52Right.
- 5:52It
- 5:53is
- 5:53actually
- 5:54your
- 5:55age.
- 5:56Your
- 5:56age
- 5:56is
- 5:57the
- 5:57single
- 5:57greatest
- 5:58risk
- 5:58factor.
- 5:59And
- 6:00in
- 6:00this
- 6:00case,
- 6:00my
- 6:01friends,
- 6:02we
- 6:02have
- 6:02a
- 6:0272
- 6:03year
- 6:03old
- 6:03in
- 6:03the
- 6:04question,
- 6:04and
- 6:04this
- 6:04was
- 6:04a
- 6:05very
- 6:05confusing
- 6:05one
- 6:05for
- 6:06many
- 6:06people
- 6:06because
- 6:07she's
- 6:08being
- 6:08medicated
- 6:08for
- 6:08major
- 6:09depressive
- 6:09disorder.
- 6:10And
- 6:10we
- 6:10don't
- 6:10always
- 6:10think
- 6:11of
- 6:11tardive
- 6:12dyskinesia
- 6:13as
- 6:13a
- 6:15major
- 6:15depressive
- 6:16disorder
- 6:16problem.
- 6:17But
- 6:17this
- 6:18is
- 6:18why
- 6:18we
- 6:18have
- 6:18to
- 6:18look
- 6:19at
- 6:19all
- 6:19of
- 6:19our
- 6:19medications
- 6:21very
- 6:21objectively
- 6:22and
- 6:23to
- 6:23get
- 6:23out
- 6:23of
- 6:24the
- 6:24labels
- 6:25and
- 6:25understand
- 6:26what
- 6:26they're
- 6:26doing.
- 6:27Right.
- 6:27It's
- 6:27not
- 6:27enough
- 6:27to
- 6:28just
- 6:28say,
- 6:28oh,
- 6:28this
- 6:28is
- 6:28a
- 6:29depression
- 6:29adjunct.
- 6:30So
- 6:30it's
- 6:30an
- 6:30antidepressant.
- 6:31Well,
- 6:31not
- 6:32quite.
- 6:32Abilify
- 6:33still
- 6:34blocks
- 6:34dopamine
- 6:35receptors.
- 6:36It's
- 6:36a
- 6:37partial
- 6:37agonist.
- 6:37So
- 6:37when
- 6:38dopamine
- 6:38is
- 6:39excessive,
- 6:39it
- 6:40will
- 6:40attenuate
- 6:41dopamine.
- 6:41When
- 6:42dopamine
- 6:42is
- 6:42deficient
- 6:43in
- 6:43certain
- 6:43parts
- 6:43of
- 6:43the
- 6:43brain,
- 6:44it
- 6:44will
- 6:45increase
- 6:45the
- 6:46dopamine
- 6:47tone
- 6:47in
- 6:47those
- 6:47parts
- 6:48of
- 6:48the
- 6:48brain.
- 6:48Right.
- 6:49That's
- 6:49why
- 6:49the
- 6:49mesocortical
- 6:50areas,
- 6:50you'll
- 6:50have
- 6:51improved
- 6:51cognition.
- 6:52But
- 6:52at
- 6:53higher
- 6:53doses,
- 6:54Abilify
- 6:55can
- 6:55actually
- 6:56mitigate
- 6:57psychotic
- 6:57symptoms
- 6:58in
- 6:58the
- 6:58mesolimbic
- 6:59circuits.
- 7:00So
- 7:00it
- 7:01can
- 7:01very
- 7:01well
- 7:02still
- 7:02be
- 7:02problematic.
- 7:03And
- 7:04especially
- 7:04if
- 7:04Your
- 7:04patient
- 7:05is
- 7:0572
- 7:05years
- 7:06old.
- 7:0672
- 7:07years
- 7:07old.
- 7:08Age
- 7:08is
- 7:08the
- 7:08single
- 7:09greatest
- 7:09risk
- 7:09factor
- 7:11when
- 7:11it
- 7:11comes
- 7:11to
- 7:11developing
- 7:12td,
- 7:13and
- 7:13the
- 7:14fact
- 7:14that
- 7:14she's
- 7:14a
- 7:14female
- 7:15also
- 7:15compounds
- 7:16that.
- 7:16Postmenopausal
- 7:17females
- 7:19are
- 7:19also
- 7:19implicated
- 7:20in
- 7:20increased
- 7:21risk.
- 7:22And
- 7:22shockingly,
- 7:23the
- 7:23risk
- 7:24factors
- 7:24for
- 7:25older
- 7:25folks
- 7:26is
- 7:26like
- 7:27a
- 7:27new
- 7:27incidence
- 7:27of
- 7:2825
- 7:28to
- 7:2830%
- 7:29per
- 7:29year
- 7:30compared
- 7:30to
- 7:304
- 7:31to
- 7:315%
- 7:31in
- 7:32younger
- 7:32adults.
- 7:32To
- 7:32me,
- 7:33that's
- 7:33a
- 7:33very
- 7:33shocking
- 7:34pearl
- 7:34drop.
- 7:35That's
- 7:35a
- 7:35very
- 7:35big
- 7:36deal.
- 7:36Um,
- 7:37and
- 7:38quite
- 7:38frankly,
- 7:39it's
- 7:39a
- 7:39little
- 7:40alarming
- 7:41because
- 7:42even
- 7:424
- 7:42to
- 7:435%
- 7:43a
- 7:43year
- 7:44in
- 7:44younger
- 7:44adults
- 7:44is
- 7:45pretty
- 7:45scary,
- 7:45because
- 7:46after
- 7:4610
- 7:46years,
- 7:46what?
- 7:47You
- 7:47have
- 7:47about
- 7:4750%
- 7:48of
- 7:48them
- 7:48developing
- 7:49tardive
- 7:49dyskinesia,
- 7:50if
- 7:50you
- 7:50do
- 7:50the
- 7:50math.
- 7:51So
- 7:51what
- 7:51is
- 7:51it
- 7:52gonna
- 7:52take
- 7:52for
- 7:52older
- 7:53folks?
- 7:53Three
- 7:53years?
- 7:54Um,
- 7:54it's
- 7:54a
- 7:55big
- 7:55problem.
- 7:56And
- 7:56so
- 7:57age
- 7:57is
- 7:57what
- 7:57they're
- 7:58trying
- 7:58to
- 7:58sniff
- 7:58out
- 7:58here.
- 7:59It
- 7:59certainly
- 8:00helps
- 8:00you
- 8:00on
- 8:00the
- 8:01side
- 8:01if
- 8:01you
- 8:01also
- 8:02have
- 8:02an
- 8:02appreciation
- 8:03for,
- 8:03for
- 8:03which
- 8:04kinds
- 8:05of
- 8:05medications
- 8:06are
- 8:07worse
- 8:07offenders
- 8:08as
- 8:08it
- 8:08relates
- 8:08to
- 8:09TD
- 8:10and
- 8:10at
- 8:11what
- 8:11doses.
- 8:12So
- 8:12I
- 8:12know
- 8:12if
- 8:12you're
- 8:13a
- 8:13new
- 8:13grad
- 8:13or
- 8:13if
- 8:14you're,
- 8:14you
- 8:14know,
- 8:14developing
- 8:15your
- 8:15chops
- 8:16in
- 8:16psychiatry,
- 8:17it
- 8:17may
- 8:17not
- 8:17be
- 8:18immediately
- 8:18intuitive
- 8:19what
- 8:19these
- 8:19doses
- 8:20are.
- 8:20I
- 8:20highly
- 8:20recommend
- 8:21you
- 8:21get
- 8:21really
- 8:21familiar
- 8:22just
- 8:22with
- 8:24kind
- 8:24of
- 8:24Mama
- 8:25Bear,
- 8:25Papa
- 8:26Bear,
- 8:26Baby
- 8:26Bear
- 8:26dosing
- 8:27it
- 8:27dosing
- 8:28ranges.
- 8:28Right.
- 8:29You
- 8:29should
- 8:29have
- 8:29an
- 8:29idea
- 8:30whether
- 8:30Seroquel
- 8:31600
- 8:32is
- 8:32a
- 8:32high
- 8:33dose
- 8:33of
- 8:33Seroquel
- 8:34or
- 8:34not,
- 8:34or
- 8:35if
- 8:35Olanzapine
- 8:3620
- 8:36is
- 8:36a
- 8:37high
- 8:37dose
- 8:37or
- 8:38not.
- 8:39That's
- 8:39very
- 8:39helpful
- 8:40to
- 8:40a
- 8:40lot
- 8:40of
- 8:41people.
- 8:41Does
- 8:41take
- 8:42some
- 8:42getting
- 8:42used
- 8:42to.
- 8:42It
- 8:43will
- 8:43click.
- 8:43But
- 8:44just
- 8:44familiarize
- 8:44yourself
- 8:45with
- 8:45that.
- 8:45So
- 8:46you
- 8:46have
- 8:46an
- 8:46idea.
- 8:48But
- 8:49this
- 8:49was
- 8:49a
- 8:49bit
- 8:49of
- 8:49a
- 8:50trick
- 8:50question
- 8:50in
- 8:50a
- 8:51way.
- 8:51I
- 8:51didn't
- 8:51mean
- 8:51it
- 8:51to
- 8:51be,
- 8:52but
- 8:52you
- 8:53have
- 8:53someone
- 8:53who's
- 8:54on
- 8:54an
- 8:54adjunct
- 8:55for
- 8:55MDD
- 8:55and
- 8:56sure
- 8:56enough,
- 8:56because
- 8:56of
- 8:57their
- 8:57age,
- 8:58you
- 8:58have
- 8:58to
- 8:58really
- 8:58watch
- 8:59out
- 8:59for
- 9:00those
- 9:00tardive
- 9:00dyskinesia
- 9:01symptoms.
- 9:02Okay.
- 9:03Some
- 9:03of
- 9:03these
- 9:03answers
- 9:04aren't
- 9:04very
- 9:04bad
- 9:05either,
- 9:06to
- 9:06be
- 9:06quite
- 9:07honest
- 9:07with
- 9:07you.
- 9:08I
- 9:08think
- 9:09the
- 9:09one
- 9:09that
- 9:09caught
- 9:09my
- 9:10eye
- 9:10was
- 9:10a
- 9:1032
- 9:10year
- 9:11old
- 9:11male
- 9:11with
- 9:11schizophrenia
- 9:12on
- 9:12Zyprexa
- 9:13of
- 9:1320
- 9:13milligrams
- 9:14a
- 9:14day
- 9:14for
- 9:14five
- 9:14years.
- 9:15That
- 9:15risk
- 9:16is
- 9:16real.
- 9:16You
- 9:17know,
- 9:17we
- 9:17certainly
- 9:18saw
- 9:18more
- 9:18of
- 9:18a
- 9:19risk
- 9:19with
- 9:19like
- 9:20Haloperidol.
- 9:21Those
- 9:21first
- 9:21generation
- 9:22antipsychotics
- 9:22have
- 9:23carry
- 9:23a
- 9:23much
- 9:23higher
- 9:23risk
- 9:24of
- 9:24this.
- 9:25But
- 9:25there's
- 9:25an
- 9:26absolutely
- 9:26real
- 9:27risk
- 9:27with
- 9:27all
- 9:28antipsychotics
- 9:28period,
- 9:29including
- 9:29Zyprexa.
- 9:30It's
- 9:30a
- 9:30very
- 9:31potent
- 9:31D2
- 9:32blocker
- 9:32and
- 9:3320mg
- 9:34is
- 9:34not
- 9:35a
- 9:35baby
- 9:35bear
- 9:36dose
- 9:36for
- 9:36five
- 9:37years
- 9:37also
- 9:38is
- 9:38pretty
- 9:39significant.
- 9:40So
- 9:40a
- 9:41higher
- 9:42risk
- 9:42I
- 9:42think
- 9:43than
- 9:43some
- 9:43of
- 9:43those
- 9:43other
- 9:43patients.
- 9:44Not
- 9:44the
- 9:4472
- 9:45year
- 9:45old
- 9:45though.
- 9:47But
- 9:47I
- 9:47would,
- 9:48but
- 9:48I
- 9:48would
- 9:48still
- 9:48kind
- 9:49of
- 9:49watch
- 9:49that
- 9:49patient
- 9:50also.
- 9:51Now
- 9:51the
- 9:5245
- 9:52year
- 9:52old
- 9:53patient
- 9:53with
- 9:53schizophrenia
- 9:54recently
- 9:55switched
- 9:55from
- 9:56Haldol
- 9:56to
- 9:56Clozapine.
- 9:57That
- 9:57should
- 9:57help
- 9:58you
- 9:58a
- 9:58lot.
- 9:58That's
- 9:58kind
- 9:59of
- 9:59a
- 9:59no
- 9:59brainer
- 10:00if
- 10:00you
- 10:00just
- 10:01do
- 10:01a
- 10:01little
- 10:01bit
- 10:01of
- 10:02studying
- 10:02to
- 10:03know
- 10:03that
- 10:03Clozapine
- 10:04has
- 10:04a
- 10:04very
- 10:05favorable,
- 10:06it
- 10:06has
- 10:06the
- 10:06lowest
- 10:06TD
- 10:07risk
- 10:07of
- 10:07all
- 10:07antipsychotics
- 10:08and
- 10:08it
- 10:08might
- 10:09even
- 10:09actually
- 10:09improve
- 10:09existing
- 10:10TD
- 10:10symptoms.
- 10:11Okay,
- 10:12so
- 10:13that
- 10:13is
- 10:13not
- 10:13the
- 10:13answer.
- 10:14Clozapine
- 10:15is,
- 10:15is
- 10:16a
- 10:16lot
- 10:16safer
- 10:17when
- 10:17it
- 10:17comes
- 10:18to
- 10:18these
- 10:18categories.
- 10:19So
- 10:19is
- 10:19Quetiapine
- 10:20in
- 10:20option
- 10:21C,
- 10:21the
- 10:2135
- 10:22year
- 10:22old?
- 10:22Yes,
- 10:22she's
- 10:22at
- 10:22a
- 10:23high
- 10:23dose.
- 10:23Yes,
- 10:23she's
- 10:23been
- 10:24on
- 10:24it
- 10:24for
- 10:24two
- 10:24years.
- 10:25But
- 10:26Quetiapine
- 10:28has
- 10:28this
- 10:28kind
- 10:29of
- 10:30on
- 10:30and
- 10:30off
- 10:30pharmacokinetics,
- 10:31where
- 10:31it
- 10:32doesn't
- 10:32bind
- 10:32as
- 10:32tightly
- 10:33to
- 10:33D2,
- 10:33it
- 10:33kind
- 10:33of
- 10:34binds
- 10:34and
- 10:34then
- 10:34lets
- 10:34go.
- 10:34Binds
- 10:35and
- 10:35then
- 10:35lets
- 10:35go.
- 10:36And
- 10:36so
- 10:36by
- 10:36doing
- 10:37that,
- 10:37it
- 10:38kind
- 10:38of
- 10:38mitigates
- 10:39the
- 10:39risk
- 10:40that
- 10:40it's
- 10:40not
- 10:40as
- 10:41an.
- 10:41Tight.
- 10:41It's
- 10:42not
- 10:42as.
- 10:42It
- 10:43doesn't
- 10:43have
- 10:43as
- 10:43tight
- 10:43of
- 10:44a
- 10:44grip,
- 10:44this
- 10:45iron
- 10:45grip
- 10:45on
- 10:45the
- 10:45D2
- 10:46receptor
- 10:46that
- 10:47some
- 10:47of
- 10:47these
- 10:47other
- 10:47medications
- 10:48do.
- 10:48So
- 10:49I
- 10:49would
- 10:49lump
- 10:49quetiapine
- 10:50in
- 10:50the
- 10:50category
- 10:51of
- 10:52meds
- 10:52that
- 10:52you
- 10:52may
- 10:53want
- 10:53to
- 10:53look
- 10:53at.
- 10:53If
- 10:54your
- 10:54patient
- 10:55is
- 10:55in
- 10:56dire
- 10:56need
- 10:56of
- 10:57a
- 10:57switch
- 10:57because
- 10:57of
- 10:58td,
- 10:58of
- 10:58course,
- 10:58you
- 10:58have
- 10:59to
- 10:59do
- 10:59that
- 10:59very
- 10:59carefully.
- 11:00There's
- 11:00a
- 11:00lot
- 11:00of
- 11:02ramifications
- 11:03and
- 11:03potential
- 11:04consequences
- 11:04to
- 11:05that
- 11:05that
- 11:05we'll
- 11:05get
- 11:05into
- 11:05in
- 11:06a.
- 11:06In
- 11:06an
- 11:07episode
- 11:07in
- 11:07the
- 11:08next
- 11:08week
- 11:08or
- 11:08so.
- 11:09However,
- 11:10just
- 11:10know
- 11:10quetiapine
- 11:11is
- 11:11a
- 11:11little
- 11:11more.
- 11:12Also
- 11:12known
- 11:12as
- 11:12Seroquel,
- 11:13is
- 11:13a
- 11:13little
- 11:13more
- 11:14favorable
- 11:15in
- 11:15this
- 11:15sense.
- 11:16Risperidone
- 11:17option.
- 11:17A
- 11:18Risperidone
- 11:19is
- 11:19no
- 11:19picnic.
- 11:19It's
- 11:19a
- 11:19pretty
- 11:20potent
- 11:20D2
- 11:20blocker.
- 11:22It's.
- 11:23I
- 11:23would
- 11:23definitely
- 11:24watch
- 11:24that
- 11:24patient,
- 11:25but
- 11:25they've
- 11:26only
- 11:26been
- 11:26on
- 11:27risperidol
- 11:28for
- 11:28about
- 11:28three
- 11:29months.
- 11:29Definitely
- 11:30possible,
- 11:31but
- 11:32as
- 11:32we
- 11:32know,
- 11:32Tardive
- 11:33dyskinesia
- 11:34is
- 11:35a
- 11:35little
- 11:35bit
- 11:36of
- 11:36a
- 11:37slower
- 11:37burn,
- 11:39not
- 11:39to
- 11:39say
- 11:39that
- 11:39it's
- 11:40impossible.
- 11:40You
- 11:40got
- 11:41to
- 11:41screen
- 11:41your
- 11:41patients
- 11:42at
- 11:42all
- 11:42times
- 11:42for
- 11:42this.
- 11:43Some
- 11:43guidelines
- 11:44say
- 11:44every
- 11:44visit.
- 11:45Some
- 11:45guidelines
- 11:45that
- 11:46are
- 11:46more
- 11:46liberal
- 11:46will
- 11:46say
- 11:47every
- 11:47six
- 11:47months
- 11:47or
- 11:48every
- 11:4812
- 11:48months,
- 11:48depending
- 11:49on
- 11:49risk.
- 11:49Again,
- 11:50we're
- 11:50going
- 11:50to
- 11:50go
- 11:50into
- 11:50that
- 11:51much
- 11:51more
- 11:52specifically
- 11:52to
- 11:52empower
- 11:53you
- 11:53to
- 11:54get
- 11:54this
- 11:54done
- 11:54and
- 11:55figure
- 11:55it
- 11:55out
- 11:55early
- 11:56and
- 11:56proactively
- 11:56because
- 11:57there's
- 11:57really
- 11:57no
- 11:57excuse
- 11:58for
- 11:58any
- 11:58of
- 11:58us
- 11:59to
- 11:59allow
- 11:59this
- 11:59to
- 12:00happen.
- 12:00We
- 12:00should
- 12:01identify
- 12:01who's
- 12:01at
- 12:02high
- 12:02risk
- 12:02and
- 12:02even
- 12:03the
- 12:03ones
- 12:03who
- 12:03aren't
- 12:03high
- 12:03risk.
- 12:04We
- 12:04should
- 12:04regularly
- 12:05screen
- 12:05these
- 12:05folks
- 12:06using
- 12:07the
- 12:07AIM
- 12:07scale.
- 12:08It's
- 12:08very
- 12:08simple
- 12:09scale.
- 12:09It's
- 12:09a
- 12:10very.
- 12:10It's
- 12:10actually
- 12:10very
- 12:11visual.
- 12:11It's
- 12:11very
- 12:11simple
- 12:12to
- 12:12conduct
- 12:12in
- 12:13session.
- 12:14It's
- 12:15not.
- 12:15It's
- 12:15not
- 12:15super
- 12:15intricate,
- 12:16and
- 12:16it
- 12:16doesn't
- 12:17take
- 12:17a
- 12:17lot
- 12:17of
- 12:17time,
- 12:18and
- 12:18it'll
- 12:18definitely
- 12:19help,
- 12:20you
- 12:21know,
- 12:23curb
- 12:23these
- 12:23symptoms
- 12:24or
- 12:24prevent
- 12:24them
- 12:24entirely.
- 12:25This
- 12:25is
- 12:25definitely
- 12:26a
- 12:26case
- 12:26where
- 12:26an
- 12:27ounce
- 12:27of
- 12:27prevention
- 12:28is
- 12:28worth
- 12:29a
- 12:29pound
- 12:30of
- 12:31work,
- 12:32if
- 12:32you
- 12:32will.
- 12:33I
- 12:33think
- 12:33I
- 12:33butchered
- 12:34that
- 12:34idiom.
- 12:35An
- 12:36ounce
- 12:36of
- 12:36prevention
- 12:37is
- 12:37worth
- 12:37a
- 12:37pound
- 12:38of.
- 12:38Someone's
- 12:38gonna
- 12:39have
- 12:39to
- 12:39help
- 12:39me.
- 12:39I
- 12:39can't
- 12:40remember
- 12:40the
- 12:40rest
- 12:40of
- 12:40that,
- 12:41but
- 12:41it's
- 12:42really
- 12:42important.
- 12:42So,
- 12:44yeah,
- 12:44this
- 12:44was
- 12:44a
- 12:45fun
- 12:45one.
- 12:45I
- 12:46think
- 12:46it's
- 12:46really
- 12:46important
- 12:46for
- 12:47you
- 12:47to
- 12:48familiarize
- 12:48yourself
- 12:49with
- 12:49the
- 12:50affinity
- 12:52for
- 12:52all
- 12:52of
- 12:52these
- 12:53medications
- 12:55for
- 12:55the
- 12:55dopamine
- 12:56blockade
- 12:56in
- 12:56particular.
- 12:58And
- 12:58that
- 12:59way
- 12:59you're
- 12:59empowered
- 13:00in
- 13:00session.
- 13:00You
- 13:01don't
- 13:01get
- 13:01stuck
- 13:01when
- 13:01your
- 13:01patient
- 13:02is
- 13:02lip
- 13:02smacking
- 13:03or
- 13:03blinking
- 13:03excessively
- 13:05or
- 13:05kind
- 13:05of
- 13:05gyrating
- 13:06in
- 13:06their
- 13:06chair.
- 13:08You
- 13:08can,
- 13:09you
- 13:09can,
- 13:09you
- 13:09know,
- 13:09these
- 13:10hyperkinetic
- 13:10movements.
- 13:11You
- 13:11can
- 13:12ask
- 13:12yourself,
- 13:12well,
- 13:12what
- 13:13would
- 13:13be
- 13:14a
- 13:14more
- 13:15serviceable
- 13:15plan
- 13:16here?
- 13:17You
- 13:17know,
- 13:17you
- 13:17can
- 13:17add
- 13:17a
- 13:17VMAT2
- 13:18inhibitor.
- 13:19We
- 13:19can
- 13:19talk
- 13:19about
- 13:19that
- 13:20later.
- 13:20You
- 13:20can
- 13:21lower
- 13:21the
- 13:21dose
- 13:21in
- 13:22only
- 13:22if
- 13:22it's
- 13:23effective
- 13:23enough.
- 13:23You
- 13:24can't,
- 13:24you
- 13:24do
- 13:24not
- 13:24want
- 13:24to
- 13:25sacrifice
- 13:25therapeutic
- 13:26efficacy.
- 13:26You
- 13:26don't
- 13:26want
- 13:27to
- 13:27just
- 13:27lower
- 13:27the
- 13:27dose.
- 13:27And
- 13:28then
- 13:28they
- 13:28have
- 13:28this
- 13:28breakthrough
- 13:29psychosis.
- 13:29So
- 13:30that
- 13:30might
- 13:30be
- 13:30a
- 13:30deal
- 13:30breaker.
- 13:31Actually,
- 13:31you
- 13:31might
- 13:31have
- 13:32to
- 13:32keep
- 13:32them
- 13:32on
- 13:32the
- 13:32med,
- 13:33add
- 13:33a
- 13:33VMAT2
- 13:34inhibitor
- 13:34or
- 13:36switch
- 13:36them
- 13:36to
- 13:36a
- 13:36medication
- 13:37that
- 13:37doesn't
- 13:37blockade
- 13:38dopamine
- 13:39as
- 13:39fiercely.
- 13:40And
- 13:40again,
- 13:40we
- 13:40talked
- 13:41about
- 13:41clozapine,
- 13:41quetiapine.
- 13:42Again,
- 13:42you
- 13:43have
- 13:43to
- 13:43do
- 13:43that
- 13:43carefully,
- 13:44cautiously,
- 13:45if,
- 13:45if
- 13:46the
- 13:46case
- 13:46even
- 13:47indicates
- 13:47it.
- 13:48But
- 13:49at
- 13:49any
- 13:49rate,
- 13:50I
- 13:50hope
- 13:50you
- 13:50enjoyed
- 13:51this
- 13:51one.
- 13:51I
- 13:51hope
- 13:51it
- 13:51whet
- 13:51your
- 13:52appetite
- 13:52so
- 13:52that
- 13:53you
- 13:53can
- 13:53go
- 13:53in
- 13:53there
- 13:54and
- 13:55research
- 13:55a
- 13:55little
- 13:56more
- 13:56about
- 13:56tardive
- 13:56dyskinesia,
- 13:57how
- 13:57to
- 13:57assess
- 13:58it,
- 13:58who's,
- 13:59who's
- 13:59most
- 13:59vulnerable
- 14:01when
- 14:01it
- 14:01comes
- 14:01to
- 14:02td,
- 14:03what
- 14:03the
- 14:03treatments
- 14:04do,
- 14:04how
- 14:04they
- 14:04do
- 14:05it.
- 14:05We're
- 14:05going
- 14:05to
- 14:05go
- 14:05over
- 14:05all
- 14:06of
- 14:06that.
- 14:06It's
- 14:06going
- 14:06to
- 14:06be
- 14:07really
- 14:07exciting.
- 14:07And
- 14:08I
- 14:08think
- 14:08it's
- 14:08going
- 14:08to
- 14:08empower
- 14:08you
- 14:09to
- 14:10figure
- 14:10this
- 14:10out
- 14:10in
- 14:11clinic
- 14:11and
- 14:11not
- 14:11be
- 14:11intimidated
- 14:12by
- 14:12it.
- 14:12And
- 14:13as
- 14:13you
- 14:13all
- 14:13know,
- 14:14right,
- 14:15the
- 14:15whole
- 14:15point
- 14:16of
- 14:16this
- 14:16podcast
- 14:17is
- 14:17to
- 14:18make
- 14:18this
- 14:19visually
- 14:19sticky
- 14:20and
- 14:20beautiful
- 14:21so
- 14:21you
- 14:21just
- 14:21get
- 14:21it
- 14:21and
- 14:22you
- 14:22understand
- 14:22it
- 14:23and
- 14:23your
- 14:23patients
- 14:23will
- 14:24understand
- 14:24why
- 14:25you
- 14:25are
- 14:25doing
- 14:26specific
- 14:26things
- 14:27for
- 14:27specific
- 14:27reasons.
- 14:28That
- 14:28is
- 14:28why
- 14:29we
- 14:29made
- 14:29this
- 14:30podcast.
- 14:30That
- 14:30is
- 14:30also
- 14:31why
- 14:32we
- 14:33built
- 14:33our
- 14:33Patreon
- 14:34page.
- 14:35And
- 14:35before
- 14:36we
- 14:36go
- 14:36today,
- 14:37my
- 14:37friends,
- 14:37I
- 14:37just
- 14:37want
- 14:37to
- 14:38say
- 14:38one
- 14:38last
- 14:38thing.
- 14:39Now,
- 14:39I
- 14:39think
- 14:40we've
- 14:40all
- 14:40had
- 14:40moments
- 14:41in
- 14:41clinic
- 14:42where
- 14:42we
- 14:42know
- 14:42which
- 14:43med
- 14:43we're
- 14:44going
- 14:44to
- 14:44use,
- 14:44but
- 14:44maybe
- 14:45we
- 14:45struggle
- 14:45to
- 14:46explain
- 14:46why
- 14:46we're
- 14:47using
- 14:47it,
- 14:47why
- 14:48we're
- 14:48switching
- 14:48it,
- 14:49why
- 14:49a
- 14:49patient
- 14:49is
- 14:50having
- 14:50a
- 14:50particular
- 14:50side
- 14:51effect,
- 14:51why
- 14:51they
- 14:51feel
- 14:52sedated
- 14:52or
- 14:53activated
- 14:53or
- 14:53numb
- 14:54or
- 14:54restless
- 14:55or
- 14:55gains
- 14:55weight.
- 14:56Now,
- 14:57the
- 14:57difference
- 14:57between
- 14:58a
- 14:58good
- 14:58clinician
- 14:59and
- 14:59a
- 14:59great
- 14:59one
- 15:00is
- 15:00that
- 15:00the
- 15:00great
- 15:00one
- 15:01can
- 15:01explain
- 15:01why
- 15:02it's
- 15:02happening
- 15:02and
- 15:03can
- 15:03explain
- 15:04why
- 15:04we're
- 15:05changing
- 15:05course
- 15:05and
- 15:06how
- 15:06it's
- 15:07all
- 15:07happening.
- 15:08Patients
- 15:08smell
- 15:09that
- 15:09a
- 15:09mile
- 15:09away.
- 15:10And
- 15:10that's
- 15:11why
- 15:11we
- 15:11built
- 15:12this
- 15:12Patreon
- 15:12library.
- 15:13So
- 15:13you
- 15:13become
- 15:13the
- 15:14clinician
- 15:14who
- 15:15understands
- 15:15the
- 15:16how
- 15:16and
- 15:16the
- 15:16why.
- 15:16And
- 15:17can
- 15:17explain
- 15:17it.
- 15:18And
- 15:18you're
- 15:18not
- 15:18just
- 15:18pressing
- 15:19buttons.
- 15:20That's
- 15:21the
- 15:21goal.
- 15:21That's
- 15:22why
- 15:22we
- 15:22built
- 15:22this
- 15:22library.
- 15:23And
- 15:24so
- 15:25go
- 15:25over
- 15:25to
- 15:25the
- 15:25Show
- 15:25Notes,
- 15:26click
- 15:27our
- 15:27link,
- 15:27join
- 15:28Patreon.
- 15:28Become
- 15:28a
- 15:29member.
- 15:29You
- 15:29will
- 15:29not
- 15:30regret
- 15:30it.
- 15:30It
- 15:30will
- 15:30transform
- 15:31the
- 15:31way
- 15:31you
- 15:31practice.
- 15:32That's
- 15:32patreon.com
- 15:34pearlsandprep
- 15:35thank
- 15:36you
- 15:36all
- 15:36very
- 15:36much
- 15:37for
- 15:37tuning
- 15:37in
- 15:37to
- 15:37another
- 15:38episode
- 15:38of
- 15:39Pearls
- 15:39and
- 15:39prep
- 15:40Take.