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Journey Of The Unseen: Navigating The Spiritual Realms And Embracing Inner Guidance With Beau Maxwell · Mindful You

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Alan Carroll: Hello, everybody. And welcome to the mindful you
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podcast where we traveled down various metaphysical paths that
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has been explored by our guest. My name is Alan Carroll. And I
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have been a student of mindfulness and meditation for
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many, many, many, many years. And I am pleased to bring to you
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today, bol Maxwell, she lives down in the southern parts of
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Colorado, place called Durango. And she describes her work her
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point of service as the results of being a very down to earth
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mathematics major, follow the directions point by point by
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point. And this metaphysical woowoo stuff. Nah, that's not,
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that's not real stuff. That's not real science. She had an
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experience, though, that she shares with us, that changed the
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whole thing. When her grandmother died 1000s of miles
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away, almost instantaneously appearing before her for three
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or four seconds, was the experience of her grandmother
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being present with her. She says it was like maybe like 70%,
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solid 10% 30% sort of waves and but there was definitely her
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grandmother, it was definitely she wore something. And that
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really woke her up to a an experience that there was
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something other than the physical reality, there was also
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a metaphysical reality. And so she began to explore it, she
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began to work in that area. And she developed a a methodology
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that she shares with us, called the sage method, where she, over
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a certain period of time, you develop that intuitive muscle
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inside of you that mindfulness muscle, that space of, of
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unknowing, and being in that space, and sharing the results
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and experiences of that space. And so it's exciting for me to
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be able to bring to you this wonderful, clarity. Also when
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she speaks she she speaks with a sense of I have experienced it.
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And I can clearly articulate what I experienced. And so I'm
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sure you'll be as impressed as I am with our guest, Bo Maxwell.
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And please welcome her to the mindful you. Podcast. Welcome,
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Paul Maxwell, to the mindful you podcast. I am happy to see you
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and excited to have you share your stories with our audience,
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as you have journey down your paths of mindfulness and
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spirituality, in that. I call it almost like the healing arts
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business. It's everything is everyone seems to be end up
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being teachers and healers and different names, but it's
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something to do with healing and teaching. So I'd like to open up
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the microphone and have you come on up and share your little
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background ball of what events worked like Wake Up Calls that
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really caused you to say, Whoa, something has happened in here
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that I wasn't aware of. And you began to explore that space. So
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I'd like to open it up and have you share a little bit of your
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story. Absolutely,
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Beau Maxwell: absolutely. I I really had a shift in life.
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Absolute shift. And like I love how you say everyone becomes,
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you know, teachers, coaches, mentors, things like this. I
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think that's such an important part of bringing community back
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together. So thank you for having me here. Now, my journey
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was a little different, just in the sense that up until 32 years
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old, I was a complete I was a complete Scout Did I wasn't
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actively pushing skepticism or trying to prove anyone wrong, I
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just didn't have any time, or or interest in religion or
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spirituality or anything that was invisible. Anything that
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fell into that category that didn't fit the science mold for
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me, just wasn't real. There was there was a way. And to the
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point where Alan I was a, I was a math major in college like
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this was how I functioned. You know, I ran businesses and such.
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So 32 years old. I've got two small kids, and I'm on one side
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of the country and my grandmother's on the other side,
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and, and sadly, she passed. Now I was on the phone with the
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family, I was very close to my grandmother. And I was on the
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phone with the family. They were in the actual hospice room with
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her. So she was surrounded by family, and I couldn't be there.
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But I could at least listen and be present. She passed, I hung
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up the phone, my family said, Roll run to the store for snacks
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for you and give you a minute. I was like, thank you. It was the
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middle of the day. And I remember standing in the living
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room, feeling like I was going to absolutely just fall apart.
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We knew it was coming. Everyone understands this process of
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grief. But I was standing there and I thought, well, maybe I'll
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maybe I'll look for airline tickets instead. Right, maybe
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I'll distract myself. And I'm standing there. And she showed
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up right in the middle of the living room. And right in front
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of me too. I know that a lot of us we catch things out of the
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corner of our eye and I get that question quite often did it did
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she wish out of the corner of your eye and she was right in
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front of me. She was about 70% solid. So there was no way that
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I could brush that off or deny that that was happening. And
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we're talking standard cream colored apartment cream colored
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floor cream walls, like and then she's right there. I remember
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jumping backwards. And it was a panic at first because this was
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not in any realm or concept that I would even entertained. And I
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remember saying to her if that was you don't do that again. And
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then I remember feeling bad that I said that.
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Alan Carroll: Again, you said to yourself, I said out
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Unknown: loud. If that was you don't do that again.
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Alan Carroll: Oh, to scare you like that. You just
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Unknown: don't even do this as I don't want anything to do with
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this. And that was my reactive reaction to it was sort of a
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stop. No. And then. And then she when she left. She was there for
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probably three seconds. So not long enough to engage in any
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sort of conversation. She winked at me. She smiled. Now I know
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that she thought she was cute as a button when she did it. But at
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the time, it was really frightening. And so I sat down,
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calm down by the time. By the time I calmed down, I was
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sitting on the floor leaning up against the wall, because I
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don't know for some reason the wall was you know, nothing can
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get you behind a wall, right, whatever. So I was running
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through all of the pop culture movies in my head. And I just I
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told myself, it's grief. You just manifested a hallucination,
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it's grief. It's fine. Didn't say anything, went to bed. The
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next morning, over breakfast, my husband at the time said, you
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know, had the super realistic dream of your grandmother. And
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this is what she was wearing. And it was exactly what she was
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wearing when she was in the living room the night before the
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day before. And I thought okay, then I started to feel these
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almost roller coaster rushes that would go through my body
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that I had never felt before. And I found the one person that
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I thought I could talk to around spirituality and it happened to
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be a local Tai Chi instructor that I didn't even really know.
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And I remember going up to him and saying, you know, and he's
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such a kind man, because while imagine this coming at you, but
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I remember walking in saying okay, you're the strangest
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person I know. Can you help me? And we laugh about that. Now we
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laugh about the inappropriate way I approached him now but I
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didn't know what to do my circle of friends. nothing not even
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remotely close. And he helped me he helped me with yes and no
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intuition. And I started to communicate with her
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Alan Carroll: that's certainly a a, a different pattern.
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Different you live in a world of mathematics, logic, organized
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1234 kind of thing and all of a sudden this this mess The
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physical experience appears. And the immediate the immediate
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reaction that sounds like was haven't seen anything like this
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before. I need to protect myself. So you step back from
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fear. But then when your grandmother winked and smile,
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which you can remember now, she was just giving you a a
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blessing.
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Unknown: Absolutely. Goodbye. Yeah.
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Alan Carroll: It isn't, as I say it, I feel the blessing of your
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grandma, as it as it comes through you in this moment,
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because there's something about the timelessness and time and
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that event is happening right now. Yeah. What do you mean?
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Well, I feel something right now. And you're sharing your
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story about your grandmother, which wasn't there before you
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started to share your story about your grandmother? And to
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me, that is a channeling of energy that's available for you
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to, you know, bring that to other people. Absolutely. And
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it's a little challenging to explain that timeless time
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versus timeless space, where everything is already have
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everything is right now. And I would love to have you if you
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want to take a shot at explaining the timeless
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dimension versus the time dimension that the ego lives in.
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How does that sound?
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Unknown: Oh, absolutely. When I started to, I asked for proof
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moving forward, I didn't see her again right away. And I kept
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pushing her for proof. She eventually gave it to me. And I
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think some of that helped me to relax in once I relaxed, and I
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started to communicate more with other spirits. Spirit guides,
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and I started working with my main teaching guide at the time,
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this was like 18 years ago. And he taught me about linear time.
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And once I grasped the concept of linear time, it opened up so
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many doors, way beyond anything that mathematics could have ever
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even invited me into. And I think that when we understand
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our reality here on linear linear time, that part of the
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purpose why we're here is to anchor into linear time. It
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really shifts our perspective, it does a whole lot of things
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for us, it helps us to understand that yes, on the
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other side, there's not linear time, which means our higher
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self isn't watching necessarily over us every day, Tuesday,
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Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, like we're experiencing. For the
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higher self perspective, it chooses to have a life sends the
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life down and the life comes back up. And it collects all the
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information. Because everything that has happened in that life,
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everything that will happen, has already happened. It's the act
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of putting ourselves into the physical body. That is the
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anchoring into this timeline. And when that happens, it
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disconnects us from being able to see that full vision of the
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entirety, and the deeper purpose of the whole entirety of one
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lifetime. This is where spirit guides are very helpful, our
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loved ones, our ancestors, we can even say on the other side,
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it's very helpful to communicate with. This is why I'm so
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passionate helping people to open up to their intuition.
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Because we're not alone on this linear timeline, we might have
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popped ourselves into a physical body in order to be in it on
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purpose. But we have guides we have teams we have, you know,
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the essence of our higher self that knows everything that's
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going to happen as well, that we can tap into and ask for insight
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and guidance through our intuitive channels. So it was
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really important for me to learn, you know the difference
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between linear time and nonlinear time because linear
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time is this just delicious gift that we have here.
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Alan Carroll: The you are talking about the if I wanted to
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catch the thoughts, we have the present being present in the
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moment. And in mindfulness. One of the characteristics of
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mindfulness is the ability to be present without labeling
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anything but as judging anything with no concepts. There's no
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There's no I know what that is. I know what that is. I know what
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that is. And and, and I was listening to Lucy talk about the
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that he called it a a potential. It's like always is like a
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creative potential where you can do whatever you want, and you're
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not. You're not being controlled by the conditioning of your
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past. You're able to To be present by sort of, in the
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moment able to erase all all the thoughts and all the judgments,
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and just look at the empty space where everything just is. And so
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I'm interested in, in having you talk about that, too. I wanted
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you also, before I forget, I wanted you to talk about the
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Okay. Spirit guides? What's, how do I out here in the middle of
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nowhere, get a spirit guide to help me bridge the gap between
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the time dimension and the timeless metaphysical dimension?
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Where am I being? Are my are my spirit lives? So practical sips?
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So take a shot at those questions.
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Unknown: Well, for the first question, what really bubbles up
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for me is how we hold ourselves in this existence. And this is
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where opening up our intuition and becoming mindful getting
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into that centered space. That is an observational position.
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And when we are purposely being in an observational position, we
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have more control over the wheel. So my analogy for this
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would be the physical body is like a car, our spiritual body
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is the driver of the car, or at the very least just sitting in
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the car. As we grow up. We are We are told where our car goes,
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where the car should, should go, shouldn't go, how fast it should
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drive, how it should handle the road, the car is really that,
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that human existence of ourselves that this is how we
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act, this is what we do. This is all of our personal programming.
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And when you get into that observational perspective,
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through mindfulness, through tapping into your own intuitive
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source, you start to taste, you start to slide over from the
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passenger seat into the driver's seat, and you grab that wheel,
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and you're like, alright, well, I haven't driven this entire
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vehicle before, but now I am. And what happens for people at
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that point, it's First off, it's uncomfortable. You know, I'm old
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enough to barely remember learning how to drive but I
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still do. And it's it's an uncomfortable transition,
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sometimes in some ways. But once you get the hang of it, once you
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start to realize, Wow, I am creating, I am taking a left or
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a right I am deciding where I want this vehicle to go, I am
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manifesting and I am, you know, letting my path unfold the way I
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want it to unfold. Once you have that, more of that control over
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the wheel through mindfulness and observation, it becomes a
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little bit fun. I guess that's the way I want to say it, it's a
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little bit more enjoyable. It's a little bit more of, you know,
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I volunteered to do this. And now look at what's possible. And
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then the possibilities start to unfold and sign in. And what
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would this look like this would look like having more ease and
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manifesting, worrying with the mindfulness, worrying less about
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the past, worrying less about the future and being present in
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that that metaphorical vehicle. It looks like getting a lot of
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signs and starting to see the signs because before you were
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just sitting in the passenger seat and whoever was driving, it
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was just driving it and it was taught to drive on its own and
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go where it needed to go. But now you're paying attention to
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the signs, you're you're deciding where you want to go,
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and you're feeling what that feels like to actually drive
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your vehicle in this lifetime. It's very powerful. Now, people
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say, Well, if you know, the guides, and the higher self and
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such know everything that's already happened, isn't it
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already set in stone that we don't have free will, this is
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where math kind of intersects for me and I years back, after
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opening up, I dove really far into the mathematics of you know
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the universe and things like this and started to see the
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connections and how they lined up. And we really do have
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unlimited parallel. I don't know that I would want to say
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universes, but paths. And every choice we make we choose whether
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to go this path or that path. But all paths are available.
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Like all of them. There's a me that didn't get home and time to
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get online with you and miss the appointment and we rescheduled
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it you know what I mean? So all of those are all also happening
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as as well all at the same time. Those are just really hard to
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kind of conceptualize for ourselves. So the best thing we
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can do is get into that mindfulness, that center that
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you speak about, and be in that observational place where we
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have control over which paths we want to take just I hope that
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makes sense.
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Alan Carroll: Oh, um, you're talking to the choir here.
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Unknown: I know that you understand mindfulness on such a
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deep level. I was like this, this will resonate. I And then
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the other question. Oh, the
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Alan Carroll: second question was, what's the second foot?
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What's the second question over there were exercises that we can
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do. Back to the go back to the question that you're answering
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right now. Yes, the you you said observational position was an
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observational position. And, and that, to me is a, it comes up a
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lot. People say it differently. Yet, you've what you're saying
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is that you're now observing something that you weren't
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observing before. And what you were observing before was
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unconscious, you weren't even aware of observing or not
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observing, then all of a sudden, you create psychologically
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metaphysically, you create the I call it the fifth element. The
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Fifth Element is space. The earth, air fire, and water is
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the physical world. And space is the metaphysical world. Well,
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what's that? Well, meditation and yoga halls are trying to
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create some space, because because if you can create the
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space, you can then observe, observe unless there's a space.
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And most people the ego doesn't create space to create ego
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creates, I want things to fill the space. And what you're
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saying is absolutely parallel, exactly what every guru I've
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ever mentioned, I've seen or felt, says, Hey, there's a space
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of observation, where you wake up and you realize that you can
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see the thought. But you don't have to be seduced by the
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thought. And you can choose what thought you want to think. And
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thoughts, creative thoughts are manifesting. So why don't we
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create it, you're, you are a divine being, and I'm a divine
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being, and we're sharing the divine love of the Lord between
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us right now. And that's the way it is. And it's like, what I can
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do that. If you can observe it, you can do it. So I'm, I clap my
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hands. I haven't I haven't heard it even expressed as clearly,
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you have a clarity to the, to the trumpet that you play. And
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it's a very, very nice to hear how you how you, you linked the
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sounds together and you you create because it's an abstract
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conversation? Absolutely is and having that math background just
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gives you a Trump to be able to play a play a better hand. So
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going back to the second question was, well, how can I
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contact my spirit guide?
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Unknown: Spirit guides are absolutely wonderful thing,
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there was something that came up and I want to take take a moment
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to come back to it because I was really present with you. And
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then you said it. And I was like, I have to remember to
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think about this thoughts. There we go, I talked about the
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infinite number of paths that we can take at any point. That is
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the same thing as saying, there's infinite thoughts that
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we can choose to have. And I really wanted to hit that point
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for the listeners to go okay, now, I can see how I can access
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the paths, the paths are your thoughts and your choices. And
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when you when you I don't want to say control your thoughts,
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but choose them like you were speaking of, you're really
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choosing your path and then you're choosing the direction of
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what you want to manifest and bring into your life. So I just
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want to line that up. Because I was like, Wow, we got a one plus
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one is two here, says the math girl but
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Alan Carroll: as you choose, the thoughts are like bricks, and
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you choose what bricks you want to build in front of you. You
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want to build the eagle brick of me gets everything and you get
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nothing. All right, you can build that, that that temple,
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but that's a temple of pain. Or you can also build a brick in
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which you in which you practice love, compassion and joy in the
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way you speak and forgiveness and letting not holding on to
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grievances and and any spirit and experiencing that one. And
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now you've built a different reality for yourself. And this
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is a brick list reality in which there is no bricks, there is no
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walls, there is no one point of view anymore. You are you're the
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sky rather than the clouds. And to me, you talked about the you
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incarnate into the body and you start to have a one perspective
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and then when you dis incarnate that's the right word. All of a
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sudden you have a universal awareness of of at all that
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you're just you're the all with everything rather than just
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something in the space of the all you are the All who I am i
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Well, yeah, no. And so
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Unknown: yeah, you can touch that just gently during your
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lifetime as well. The way that I explained it to my students is
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there's Three bodies that you have you got the physical body,
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we know what that is, you have the spiritual body, which is
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your spirit, your soul, we know what that is. And then you have
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what's called the programming body. That is your mental mind,
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your tendencies, the the training, the it's the brain,
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it's, it's, this is how I do things. It's not the
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personality, but it is the programming in this agreed upon
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reality, my programming mind says that my name is Bo, that
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I'm five foot six, you know, like these, this is what the
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program body does. So another way to approach this
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observational point of view, when you're when you're still
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here in the in a meditation type state, is to, in some way,
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Picture those three bodies and pull back from that eye and, and
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pull into the spirit and look through spirit eyes, instead of
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programmed eyes, look through spirit eyes, instead of the
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physical eyes, and see where that brings you in your in your
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mindfulness practices.
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Alan Carroll: So there are three bodies, we're talking about the
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physical body, we're talking about the spiritual body. And
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then we got into the what came up for me was your conditioned
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body, the body that tells you this is right, this is wrong,
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this is good, this is bad. It tells you it tells you it
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describes everything, it tells you what so about everything.
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And that to me is your the thoughts inside your head, the
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voice inside your head. Yes, and when and when you can create the
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space there, air rates, the space and air if you have the
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cold, the the soil is hard and compact, and, and, and doesn't
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doesn't grow anything. But when you can aerate it, and air and
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space, it allows it to breathe and receive oxygen. And in to
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me, just off the top of my head. That's the big benefit of
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meditation. Meditation is the aeration of the thoughts that
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you think. And that just allows you to relax physically rely you
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talked about what are the characteristics? Definitely,
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when you begin to practice, space creation, or breathing or
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yoga or whatever you have these times where you become present
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in a wave of relaxation comes through you. And that to me is
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an indicator that you're going in the right direction.
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Absolutely,
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Unknown: absolutely. It's a very powerful way of being. And I
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remember working with a student who struggled and pulling back
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from that, that programming mind the the conditioning, pulling
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back from that. Because when you're in that programming mind,
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when you're in the very human state, you're being pulled and
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you're constantly going with the poll, left, right, left, right,
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left, right, and you got to pull back in order to take a breath,
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give yourself that space. And I remember we we were talking and
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my big thing is, is come up with creative ways for yourself to
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try to achieve these things that you're trying to achieve. It
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usually happens faster than following step by step. And we
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were coming up with a creative way for her to kind of get out
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of that. And she said, You know what my programming mind is a
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kid. It's a 10 year old. And I'm my spirit is me and I am the
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adults. And I'm going to love that 10 year old. And that
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perspective shift for her just was huge. And then what she was
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able to do is pull back and see what was working and what wasn't
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working for the programming mind that the, you know, the what's
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the word have you used before that was so great that the
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training, you know,
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Alan Carroll: and I said it was mentioning the condition
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Unknown: that's the word she was able to pull back from the
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conditioning see the conditioning from the
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perspective of her being the grown adult and her conditioned
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self being a younger version of her and she was able to parent
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that younger version love that younger version, but even
29:05
better. In time we talked about this again and she was able to
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step into that younger version when she wanted to. When she was
29:15
at an amusement park with her kids. She wanted to go on the
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roller coaster she did you know what I mean? Like she let
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herself be fully human in those times that she really wanted to
29:23
be human. So it's when people can reach that balancing act of
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don't let go of being here. We're here for a reason. And
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please absorb all of the deep experiences that come from this
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earth base linear time. But also give yourself the ability to be
29:39
able to kind of pull back from that and see it with more
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clarity.
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Alan Carroll: Absolutely. The image comes to mind is Sadhguru
29:48
talked about a frying pan and he said some frying pans are made
29:52
with Teflon and some frying pans are made with no Teflon. And so
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you you want to experience everything but don't get stuck
30:00
With anything, allow that allow it to flow through. And what
30:04
happens is people get something that rewards that conditioning.
30:08
And now they want to keep it. And, and of course, you know, in
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Buddhism, they talk about everything is impermanent. So
30:16
your your desire to hold on to stop playing is like holding on
30:19
to a bunch of sand in your hand, and you grip it, but that just
30:22
drips and that creates the suffering that people feel
30:26
because if I've identified myself as something that's
30:28
disappearing, then I don't feel very good. However, the idea of
30:32
the of the observation is, you can see the thoughts you can see
30:37
the emotions, but you're not the thoughts. You're not the
30:41
emotions, you're the observer, the witness, they're the the
30:47
empty space of nothingness, and is extremely relaxed. And out of
30:52
that space comes compassion, calm, because you see other
30:55
people gripping the sand and you say, Hey, you don't have to do
30:58
that. You don't have to grip the sand. I want a group to say no,
31:00
I need to say,
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Unknown: I need the sand. Yes, absolutely. I will say that
31:07
before opening. Intuitively, I was far less compassionate than
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I am today. And you know, there's, there's no shame in
31:17
that, it's, it's a wonderful thing to like, step forward in
31:20
your life and look back and go, Wow, I've come a really long
31:23
way. I would go back again, there's a lot of bumps that came
31:27
with it. Because when you decide to step into this mindfulness
31:30
space, you start to see things and become aware of things, your
31:34
patterns, the patterns around you, who's around you, and those
31:38
things are uncomfortable, and to anyone listening, please keep
31:42
going, please, please keep going. Because there is light on
31:44
the other side of that, and push through that discomfort. If you
31:48
have the discomfort from awareness, you're already there,
31:51
you've already got your 95% there, you just got to take that
31:55
next step. And there was a lot of those that were uncomfortable
31:58
in the transition of, you know, where I was to where I am today.
32:03
But I do it over and over again, I will do it over and over
32:06
again, I find such joy in my life. Now. I didn't know how
32:11
much joy I didn't have, if that makes sense.
32:16
Alan Carroll: The space of mindfulness is where the joy and
32:23
the bliss and the relaxation and the Buddha nature, because
32:29
Buddha is above the intellect. So you're going beyond the
32:32
thoughts that you think. And in India, they have something
32:36
called a mukti. And Mukti is the Enlightenment is the idea of
32:44
there's the thoughts that you think. And then is there another
32:48
space on the other side of the thoughts that you think and
32:52
mindfulness for me is the journey to realize that I'm not
32:56
I'm not the cloud, I'm the on the on the on the on the sky, at
33:01
the like the cloud go rather than cling to the cloud, and
33:06
into me. And of course I'm if we're going to solve any of the
33:11
issues that are facing us in this moment. Now with all the
33:18
stuff coming at you. It there's a constant stirring up of the
33:22
thoughts in your watch that I was watching the news last
33:26
night. The other night, I don't usually watch the news. I was
33:28
visiting somebody and my watching the six o'clock news of
33:33
the major televisions what they wanted us to see. Yeah, actually
33:38
physically made me I was becoming a little sick,
33:44
physically is like this is just doesn't taste good at all. Why
33:47
are they showing me these things? I don't want to see it.
33:51
And so mindfulness, the breathing. So this before we
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complete, let's let's go, let's go for what can I do to become
34:04
more mindful and to contact my spirits guides? Is there a
34:10
suggestion about a practice I can do or a place or a book,
34:14
something open up and allow me to further go down that path?
34:19
Unknown: Yes, I would absolutely love to share that I share this
34:23
with anyone that I can. Because it's a it's easier than we think
34:29
it is. And we've got a lot of pop culture telling us that
34:32
these strong intuitives are quote, gifted and unusual and
34:37
that other people are not as intuitive and that it cannot be
34:41
further from the truth. Intuition is absolutely natural.
34:46
I've taught 10s of 1000s of people across the globe and just
34:48
watched people open up so it's not it's not a special thing now
34:52
with the guides. In general guides are sometimes loved ones
34:58
who have been here with you and then crossed over and watched
35:00
over you from the other side. But guides on the other side are
35:03
part of what I call like our soul group. And they might not
35:08
have come down in this lifetime with you, but maybe they've been
35:11
in other lifetimes with you. And it's their job to watch over
35:15
your path, you make the decisions on the general feel
35:19
for what you want to happen in your life, time you create the
35:22
blueprint, but when you're here on Earth is when you filled all
35:25
of the blueprint details in but your guides on the other side,
35:28
who are not limited by linear time, they know the direction
35:32
you're headed, and they know the best way for you to go. They're
35:36
going to show signs and try to assist you in getting there. So
35:42
we all have them. And we have different guides at different
35:45
times, depending on what we're going through in our lifetime.
35:49
Sometimes we have a guide that's with us for our entire life,
35:51
sometimes we have a guide that's with us for just a portion of
35:54
it. There's no set number of guides, there's no really rules
35:59
or regulations on it. That's a very kind of limited linear
36:02
timeline thought process, with a certain number and certain
36:07
timing. So stay open to who who might come through put it that
36:12
way. Now, in connecting with them. I asked people to think in
36:16
terms of a concept, what we're looking for intuitively is in
36:21
between the molecules, what we're looking for intuitively is
36:24
in between the solid. And right back to what I was mentioning
36:29
before, when you see something out of the corner of your eye,
36:33
and you turn to look at it, you don't see it when you turn to
36:36
look at it. And I can tell you exactly why. It's because when
36:40
you turn to look at it, your physical eyes are searching
36:43
physical objects around you, you are focusing on the material,
36:47
you are focusing on the solid and you're focusing on the
36:50
molecules. What you saw out of your peripheral, which by the
36:54
way, is blurred, is not focused, is D focused. As a matter of
36:59
fact, that is what's in the in between, that's actually what
37:03
you're looking to see. So intuition, spirit guides, loved
37:06
ones messages. It's not in the material world. So my number one
37:12
piece of advice to people who are going to start using their
37:15
intuition is Sit down sit between you and a blank wall.
37:19
And you know nothing on the wall preferably, and allow your gaze
37:22
to D focus. When your eyesight is focused on something you are
37:27
in this material world, you are not going to get intuitive
37:30
information. When your eyes are relaxed, you open up to the
37:35
spaces in between the material that is source that is and
37:39
there's a whole bunch of different words for that all
37:41
across the globe. But in essence, that is source that is
37:45
where everything that we're trying to connect with is
37:55
Alan Carroll: well, let's go down that one. Okay, yes, the
38:01
eye I do. The way I the way I play mindfulness in order to
38:07
find that molecule, the empty space between the molecules is I
38:13
train speakers. I train speakers. I give them one tool.
38:22
And they've never used the tool before. But if you can practice
38:27
the tool, you will transform your ability to speak. And
38:32
they'll also accelerate you down that path of mindfulness. And
38:37
the tool is to realize that this that, that you may not control
38:42
the thoughts that you think. But you can control the thoughts
38:49
that you speak. So I can control the timing of my speaking. So
38:58
when I speak, I speak I speak and then there's these empty
39:01
spaces of not speaking, called the pause. And so I take the
39:08
thing, and I tell people that as you create that space between
39:13
the molecules between the sound bites between the vibration of
39:17
the sound bubble, you touch the infinite because there's nothing
39:23
in that space. And you're no you're you're no longer a bubble
39:27
in the ocean, you become the ocean. And all you got to do is
39:33
practice disrupting the automatic pattern of your
39:38
condition speaking and that will free you from the from the grip
39:43
of the of the ego, because that's what you're speaking for.
39:46
You're speaking for your conditioned identity. And if you
39:49
can consciously cut the cord of that pattern. You wake up from
39:57
the dream and instead All right. From the very beginning, I wrote
40:02
the word dream. Your grandmother appears it's almost like a
40:07
dream. So so let's just so what I said about the space between
40:15
the sounds, is that the same as the space between the molecules.
40:19
Unknown: That space is really everything that you and I have
40:23
been connecting on in this session. It is this the space in
40:29
between the pause, the observational view, they're all
40:34
the same thing. Yeah, and exactly what you just you just
40:38
worded it really eloquently when you said, I'm not gonna be able
40:44
to, I stay so focused that then you go back to think about what
40:47
the person said, and you can't grab the words that they used.
40:53
Alan Carroll: My, my, my memory of, I hear what you're saying.
40:57
Yeah. And I say, yep, that's exactly right. Unless I go in
41:01
and stop and then say what I want to say that thought fades
41:05
away. And so then I took I got a new thought. And so I noticed
41:11
that the thoughts fade away, which is actually pretty cool.
41:15
Because then you realize that the thoughts that don't fade
41:18
away, you're feeding them and and Eckhart Tolle talked about
41:23
the thoughts are our life support you give life support to
41:27
your thoughts? Take life support away and those thoughts that you
41:31
were manifesting? Yes, yes, appear. And that is available to
41:36
everybody. Everybody can make thoughts disappear. But most
41:39
people think the thoughts are real, and important, and gotta
41:44
hold on to them. So
41:46
Unknown: invite yourself to break the pattern. That's kind
41:50
of what what I was hearing from you earlier, talking about the
41:53
pattern in the in the stopping it and breaking away from it.
41:57
When it comes to intuition. Yep, the pattern is an expectation of
42:02
seeing things the same way we see here the pattern is
42:05
searching. When we're searching for something, we have a
42:08
lifetime of training our eyes to land on different things to find
42:13
what we're looking for. That's the pattern to break. If you
42:17
want to start accessing your intuition, see, feel, hear,
42:21
taste, smell different things that are coming through from
42:24
source from guides, from loved ones, from however it comes
42:27
through for you, you have to break that pattern, you have to
42:31
stop yourself, catch yourself and say, I'm too focused, I need
42:35
to relax my gaze, I need to give myself that space. I need to
42:39
give myself that pause.
42:45
Alan Carroll: Yep, that's wonderful. Let's see, I 100%
42:50
agreement with the idea of, of when you start practicing it.
42:57
Yeah. You don't think you don't take things personally too much
43:01
anymore. And you have more fun, as you said, you're more at
43:07
ease. You don't need to always be defending your opinion and
43:13
point of view. As matter of fact. Now, it's rarely, you
43:19
know, I is it really important to assert my opinion or my point
43:22
of view about something. And so you're more relaxed in the
43:26
moment. And I I think well, it affects you physically. Oh,
43:31
yeah. The thoughts that you think create the physical body.
43:35
And so if you think anger, thoughts, it creates dis easing
43:40
kinds of things in your body. Is that also your experience?
43:44
Absolutely.
43:45
Unknown: Absolutely. I have been healthier, overall, all around
43:51
mentally, physically. All of that by following a spiritual
43:55
path, really. And being present with myself and paying attention
44:00
to myself. You know, I was I was raised in that stereotypical
44:04
people pleasing type role. You know, I mean, I'm 50 I'm of that
44:12
generation where you know, but you figure it out and it starts
44:16
to feel good mind body and soul. And then you move toward what
44:21
feels what feels right. And that space feels right. And it does
44:26
it brings health.
44:28
Alan Carroll: Yep. Yep. Physical health, emotional health and
44:32
mental health and spiritual health. It's just a it's a it's
44:36
a healthy lifestyle. To me. Well, thank you, boy, before we
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go, it if people want to connect and reach out and contact you,
44:47
uh, we'll have the show notes available in the podcast also.
44:50
Yet what are some of the ways that you can just tell us right
44:54
now how we can reach out and connect with you? Well,
44:58
Unknown: we do a great job at Keeping everything in one place
45:01
for people, it's the website. It's the sage method. So th e sh
45:07
e method.com.
45:10
Alan Carroll: Wonderful, wonderful. Well, sage, sage,
45:14
well, that you you develop something called the sage
45:18
method. Yes. Okay. So give me give me the give me the couple
45:24
of sentences and then we'll complete
45:26
Unknown: the sage method as a seven week training course on
45:29
opening up your intuition. It is what I did with those guides in
45:34
the first couple of years of my own development. So if you can
45:38
take someone like me and open me up to the level of intuition
45:42
that I've been able to attain, the sage method course helps
45:46
people do that for themselves as well.
45:49
Alan Carroll: But perfect, the exactly in alignment with what
45:53
we've been talking about, well, what can I do in order to
45:56
strengthen those muscles? Well, this is a vehicle that you can
46:00
ride in for seven sessions with with Bo and and expand expand
46:07
your your intuition, which to me comes with that mindfulness,
46:12
relaxation, melting into the nothingness all of a sudden you
46:16
you get you get in touch with creativity and intuition and
46:19
things that are just opening up and no longer suppressed and
46:22
being held down. Sounds wonderfully well, Bo I obviously
46:27
we have a wonderful conversation and talking with you is he's
46:31
talking to a fellow traveler down down the path who has seen
46:37
things and experience things very, very similar. And so it's
46:40
been a fun and a joy to have the opportunity of meeting you and
46:44
and having you sir and having you share your your sage wisdom
46:49
with the mind for you, audience. Thank you so much for having me.
46:54
And we'll say goodbye for now. Thank you. Thank you very much.