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Call it "The Trump Effect" on The Southern Border · The Ben Ferguson Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Call it the Trump effect, because migrant encounters at the
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  Speaker 1: southern border have now hit the lowest ever mark, down
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  Speaker 1: ninety four percent from last February. Now, I'm going to
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  Speaker 1: explain that to you in a minute and why this
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  Speaker 1: is so important. But this also comes as there's another
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  Speaker 1: big headline. The FBI director Cash Pttel has announced apprehensions
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  Speaker 1: of eight Mexicans wanted for murder and drug trafficking.
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  Speaker 2: The Federal Bureau.
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  Speaker 1: Of Investigations director announcing that the agency took into the
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  Speaker 1: United States cust the eight men from Mexico that had
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  Speaker 1: actually been wanted by the FBI for murder and drug
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  Speaker 1: trafficking charges. Two were former FBI ten most wanted fugitives.
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  Speaker 1: The question you should be asking yourself right now is this,
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  Speaker 1: why is it that Patel and Donald Trump can get
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  Speaker 1: these guys but they were never handed over when Joe
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  Speaker 1: Biden was President of the United States of America. I
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  Speaker 1: can tell you exactly why, because they weren't asking for
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  Speaker 1: them and they didn't really care.
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  Speaker 2: Quote.
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  Speaker 1: The FBI and our partners will scour the ends of
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  Speaker 1: the earth to bring terrorists and cartel members to justice,
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  Speaker 1: Patel said in a statement. The era of harming Americans
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  Speaker 1: and walking free is over. This is again significant because
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  Speaker 1: the eight men included a former FBI ten Most Wanted fugitive,
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  Speaker 1: wanted for his alleged involvement in the kidnapping and murder
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  Speaker 1: of Drug Enforcement Administration Special Agent Salazar back in nineteen
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  Speaker 1: eighty five. That's how long this guy has been wanted
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  Speaker 1: and what did it take. It took Donald Trump getting
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  Speaker 1: back into office for them to force Mexico's hand, the
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  Speaker 1: FBI said this. Caro Quintero is widely regarded as one
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  Speaker 1: of the Mexican godfathers of drug trafficking and helped to
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  Speaker 1: form the Guadalajara Cartel in the late nineteen seventies. Allegedly,
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  Speaker 1: he became one of the primary suppliers of heroin, cocaine,
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  Speaker 1: and marijuana to the US and oversaw the cartel in
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  Speaker 1: Costa Rica and at the US and Mexico border. The
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  Speaker 1: case was investigated by the FBI San Antonio Field Office,
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  Speaker 1: and Quintero will face charges now in the Eastern District
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  Speaker 1: of New York. Also apprehended was alder Marian Sotello, a
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  Speaker 1: man who faces charges for being a cop killer related
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  Speaker 1: to the August eleven, twenty twenty two killing of law
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  Speaker 1: enforcement officer a manned by the name of Deputy Ned
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  Speaker 1: Bird of the Wake County, North Carolina Sheriff's Office. Mauran
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  Speaker 1: Sotello was indicted on a charge of first degree murder
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  Speaker 1: on August of twenty third of twenty twenty two. The
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  Speaker 1: case was investigated by the FBI Charlotte Field Office, and
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  Speaker 1: Sotelo will face federal weapons charges in the Middle District
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  Speaker 1: of North Carolina and state murder charges in North Carolina
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  Speaker 1: State Court. Then we moved to Jose Ridolfo Hernandez, also
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  Speaker 1: known as El Gato. He is another former FBI Top
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  Speaker 1: ten most Wanted fugitive. He has now been apprehended. He
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  Speaker 1: is allegedly responsible for stalking and orchestraing the murder for
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  Speaker 1: hire of a forty three year old male victim on
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  Speaker 1: May the twenty second of twenty thirteen in South Lake, Texas.
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  Speaker 1: According to the FBI, the individual previously held a high
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  Speaker 1: level position in the BLO drug cartel and is believed
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  Speaker 1: to have overseen the importation of large quantities of cocaine
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  Speaker 1: into the US, as well as committing violent acts within
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  Speaker 1: the Republic of Mexico and the United States of America.
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  Speaker 1: Why was he doing this clearly to maintain his organization's
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  Speaker 1: we're in status. He was arrested on January the seventh
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  Speaker 1: of twenty twenty three in Mexico. Now, this case was
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  Speaker 1: investigated by the FBI Dallas Field Office. Hernandez will face
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  Speaker 1: charges in the Northern District of Texas for interstate stalking
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  Speaker 1: and conspiracy to commit murder for hire. Then there's Jose
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  Speaker 1: Angel Innunza, also known as s Guerto. He was a
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  Speaker 1: key leader and the finance manager of the Cinelona cartel.
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  Speaker 1: This according to the FBI. Now, he allegedly traffic narcotics,
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  Speaker 1: controlled an arms enforcement group, and managed corrupt relationships on
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  Speaker 1: the cartel's behalf. The FBI stated he was arrested last
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  Speaker 1: week in Sineloa by the Mexican Army. The question you
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  Speaker 1: should be asking yourself is why was he able to
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  Speaker 1: walk around free for so long? And is it because
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  Speaker 1: there was a man in the White House who was
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  Speaker 1: clearly compromised by the name of Joe Biden. Now, this
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  Speaker 1: case I just mentioned was investigated by the FBI Washington
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  Speaker 1: and San Diego field offices. He will now face narco
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  Speaker 1: trafficking charges out of the Northern District of Illinois.
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  Speaker 2: Ridolfo Lopez is also.
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  Speaker 1: Facing drug trafficking charges with up to life imprisonment out
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  Speaker 1: of the District of Columbia. According the FBI, the case
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  Speaker 1: was investigated by the FBI Washington Field Office.
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  Speaker 2: And then there's Andrew Clark.
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  Speaker 1: By the way, if you think that nothing bad happens
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  Speaker 1: at the northern border, pay attention. Andrew Clark is a
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  Speaker 1: Canadian citizen who understood the border there. He also resided
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  Speaker 1: in Mexico and allegedly ran and participated in a trans
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  Speaker 1: national drug trafficking operation that routinely shipped hundreds of kilograms
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  Speaker 1: of cocaine from Colombia, then through Mexico, then through southern California,
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  Speaker 1: then to Canada and other locations in the United States
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  Speaker 1: through Canada.
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  Speaker 2: The FBI says the.
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  Speaker 1: Case was investigate get it by the FBI Los Angeles Office,
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  Speaker 1: and Clark is being prosecuted for four different murders and
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  Speaker 1: one attempted murder and will face charges in the Central
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  Speaker 1: District of California.
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  Speaker 2: Then there's Luiz Gerardo Menendez.
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  Speaker 1: He's facing several federal charges, including murder, racketeering, and drug
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  Speaker 1: conspiracy in the Western District of Texas. According to the FBI,
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  Speaker 1: Mendes was a high ranking lieutenant and was responsible for
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  Speaker 1: the March thirteenth, twenty ten murder of not one, but
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  Speaker 1: two US consulate employees in Warez, Mexico, and an Alpaso
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  Speaker 1: County Sheriff's Office attention officer. According to the agency, the
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  Speaker 1: case was investigated by the FBIOL Passo Field Office. Mendes
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  Speaker 1: was indicted in the Western District of Texas. Fuentes, by
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  Speaker 1: the way, the former leader of the Warez cartel, is
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  Speaker 1: facing narcotics to trafficking charges.
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  Speaker 2: In the Eastern District of New York.
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  Speaker 1: He's responsible for the trafficking of narcotics in the US
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  Speaker 1: and also assisted in perpetrating significant violence throughout Mexico, El Paso, Texas,
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  Speaker 1: and other areas in the US. The FBI says, you
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  Speaker 1: look at all of this, what changed one simple thing.
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  Speaker 1: Casptel became the FBI director and all of a sudden,
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  Speaker 1: holding people accountable who have killed American men and women
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  Speaker 1: in uniform are police officers and innocent civilians while they're
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  Speaker 1: now on his list. The FBI is once again putting
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  Speaker 1: America's safety first and ensuring that no criminal enterprise no
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  Speaker 1: matter how powerful, can operate without consequences. The FBI said
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  Speaker 1: in their statement, Let's make this clear. Justice will be
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  Speaker 1: served and the error of lawlessness is over. So let's
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  Speaker 1: go back to what I was saying a moment ago
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  Speaker 1: about the Trump effect. It's very clear that the FBI
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  Speaker 1: leadership has changed now going after the worst cartel members
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  Speaker 1: and they have again been declared as terrorist organizations. So
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  Speaker 1: what is happening in general at the southern border, Well,
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  Speaker 1: it's very exciting news. There is a new post by
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  Speaker 1: the Chief of the US Border Patrol, Michael Banks, and
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  Speaker 1: he showed February apprehensions to be a record low for
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  Speaker 1: the agency. Banks posts revealed the startling impact of the
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  Speaker 1: Trump presidency on illegal migration to the United States in
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  Speaker 1: the forty two days since he assumed office, saying this quote,
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  Speaker 1: February proved our combined efforts and securing the border worked.
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  Speaker 1: That is what Chief Banks posted on x saying United
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  Speaker 1: States Border Patrol apprehensions at eight three hundred and twenty
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  Speaker 1: six illegal aliens at the US Mexico border, making it
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  Speaker 1: the lowest month in record history. That just over eighty
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  Speaker 1: three hundred migrants arrested by border patrol who illegally crossed
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  Speaker 1: the Mexican border into the United States fell by ninety
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  Speaker 1: four percent to the one hundred and forty thousand plus
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  Speaker 1: encountered just one year ago. During the same time period
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  Speaker 1: of February, perhaps more shocking, the numbers dropped by eighty
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  Speaker 1: two percent from December President Joe.
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  Speaker 2: Biden's last full month in office.
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  Speaker 1: As a transition of power took place in January, the
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  Speaker 1: encounter numbers began to plummet, falling to just over twenty
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  Speaker 1: nine thousand. In fact, the numbers were witnessing now were
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  Speaker 1: the same type of numbers that we were seeing in
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  Speaker 1: one single day at our southern border during Joe Biden's presidency.
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  Speaker 1: During some months now look large scale immigration raids across
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  Speaker 1: the United States of America have had a huge impact
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  Speaker 1: because people are calling home and telling their family and
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  Speaker 1: friends do not come. A consistent messaging from the entire
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  Speaker 1: Trump administration has resulted in the reduction of legal border
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  Speaker 1: crossings for the same reason people in America are saying,
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  Speaker 1: it's not what it was several months ago. You do
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  Speaker 1: not want to risk coming here and immediately getting sent
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  Speaker 1: back home. They're also talking about the raids that are happening,
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  Speaker 1: and this forced the closure of multiple non government migrant
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  Speaker 1: shelters that also once received hundreds of millions of federal
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  Speaker 1: tax dollars from FEMA to move release migrants further in
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  Speaker 1: the United States to await asylum. Hearings that money is
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  Speaker 1: drying up, the hotels are drawing up, and the aid
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  Speaker 1: is drying up, so it's much harder to survive in
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  Speaker 1: America as an illegal immigrant now.
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  Speaker 2: It was also reported in late January.
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  Speaker 1: Just days after President Trump's inauguration, the two shelters closed
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  Speaker 1: in Pima County, Arizona, and then in February, a private,
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  Speaker 1: non government migration center also closed in San Antonio, Texas.
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  Speaker 1: It was just a few miles to the San Antonio
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  Speaker 1: International Airport. The Migrant Resource Center, known as an MRC,
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  Speaker 1: have been under a partnership with the city of San
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  Speaker 1: Antonio and also Catholic charities. They were getting rich off
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  Speaker 1: this ever since they opened it in twenty twenty two.
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  Speaker 2: Now.
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  Speaker 1: Among other measures that occurred during February, the Trump administration
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  Speaker 1: conducted the first military flight transporting migrants to Guantanamo Bay
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  Speaker 1: detention camp, clearly telling illegal immigrants they may end up
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  Speaker 1: in Guantanamo Bay, Cuba is not sitting well with people
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  Speaker 1: that are thinking about coming into the US.
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  Speaker 2: In other words, it's a massive deterrent.
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  Speaker 1: Now the camp in Cuba's currently undergoing modifications that will
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  Speaker 1: allow for up to thirty thousand illegal immigrants to be
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  Speaker 1: held the facility located within the Naval Station Guantanamo Bay.
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  Speaker 1: Information provided by the Border Patrol revealing a new trend
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  Speaker 1: of reverse migration is contributing also the lower number of crossings.
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  Speaker 1: Disappointed migrants are turning away for the United States our
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  Speaker 1: commit journey to return home, and we're also starting to
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  Speaker 1: see a trend of illegal immigrants in the United States
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  Speaker 1: that are also willing to you guessed it, return back
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  Speaker 1: to their home country.
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  Speaker 2: Now.
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  Speaker 1: The new trend is also being seen in Panama, where
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  Speaker 1: migrants are now paying boat smugglers to ferry them by
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  Speaker 1: water to avoid the Darren Gap jungle on their return
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  Speaker 1: home to Colombia and Venezuela. This was a very interesting
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  Speaker 1: report that came out and bright Bart Texas talked about
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  Speaker 1: an eight year old child that perished last week after
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  Speaker 1: a smuggler's vessel carrying mostly Venezuelan migrants south from Panama
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  Speaker 1: to Colombia capsized in rough waters. Bright bart Texas also
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  Speaker 1: reported on Saturday, the President Donald Trump doubled down on
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  Speaker 1: his border message of strength through enforcement by deploying yet
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  Speaker 1: another three thousand active.
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  Speaker 2: Duty military units.
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  Speaker 1: Let me say that again, three thousand more active duty
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  Speaker 1: military units, including an.
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  Speaker 2: Armored striker brigade.
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  Speaker 1: On February the twenty first, the Texas Department of Public
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  Speaker 1: Safety also report the daily migrant apprehensions rate along the
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  Speaker 1: southwest border fell below two hundred for the first time,
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  Speaker 1: when agents encountered one hundred and ninety nine migrants, and
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  Speaker 1: by February the twenty second, that number fell to one hundred.
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  Speaker 2: And eighty five.
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  Speaker 1: It was also reported that border encounters in February averaged
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  Speaker 1: about three hundred and twenty eight per day. That, by
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  Speaker 1: the way, is a number that would be per hour
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  Speaker 1: under some days during the Biden administration. Now, if that
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  Speaker 1: number held through the end of the month, migrant encounters
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  Speaker 1: for February could have been as low as nine thy
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  Speaker 1: two hundred. The actual number reported by Chief Banks succeeded
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  Speaker 1: the prediction with the arrest of eight thousand, three hundred
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  Speaker 1: and twenty six migrants. Now, to put it in perspective,
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  Speaker 1: This represents a record low in CBP HE reports dating
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  Speaker 1: back to the last full year of the Clinton administration
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  Speaker 1: in two thousand. The previous low occurred during President Trump's
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  Speaker 1: third full month of his first time in office in
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  Speaker 1: April of seventeen, when agents encountered eleven twenty seven migrants.
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  Speaker 2: So, when the.
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  Speaker 1: Biden Harris administration and the Democrats said they were quote
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  Speaker 1: doing everything they could to secure the southern border, and
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  Speaker 1: they said that the border is secure, they said it
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  Speaker 1: over and over again, the border is secure. They were
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  Speaker 1: lying to you, and they were lying to Congress. The
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  Speaker 1: White House Press secretary said it, Joe Biden said it.
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  Speaker 1: The man who was in charge of the Department of
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  Speaker 1: Homeland Security, majorcas said it. And every time they said it,
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  Speaker 1: they knew they were lying to you. They knew they
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  Speaker 1: were absolutely full of it. Now, what we have learned,
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  Speaker 1: and it's pretty clear, is that the President United States
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  Speaker 1: of America wasn't Joe when he said that he was
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  Speaker 1: going to fix the problem, and he wasn't joking when
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  Speaker 1: he said he was going to use active duty military
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  Speaker 1: to get the job done. We now see that more
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  Speaker 1: active duty military are going to the southern border than
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  Speaker 1: any other time in my lifetime. That is significant. And
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  Speaker 1: the second thing that people need to be celebrating right
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  Speaker 1: now is the fact that not only is the President
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  Speaker 1: of the United States of America standing by his word,
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  Speaker 1: but he seems to be ratcheting up on going after
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  Speaker 1: hardcore illegal immigrants and cartel members, whether they're outside the
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  Speaker 1: country or inside the country. Now you may ask yourself
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  Speaker 1: this question, why were these people arrested in Mexico. It's
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  Speaker 1: one reason, power and strength from a president that said
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  Speaker 1: to Mexico, you're not going to get away with what.
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  Speaker 2: You were doing under Joe Biden.
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  Speaker 1: Mexico now how clearly understands that they're going to have
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  Speaker 1: to start helping Donald Trump secure the southern border, and
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  Speaker 1: that includes handing over people to our government that killed
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  Speaker 1: our men and women.
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  Speaker 2: In uniform and American citizens.
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  Speaker 1: All right, I want to get real quick to some
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  Speaker 1: breaking news for many of you. In a major move,
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  Speaker 1: President Trump has halted We've now being told all weapons
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  Speaker 1: sales to Ukraine. We also are being told that Donald
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  Speaker 1: Trump is considering freezing weapons shipments from the US stockpiles.
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  Speaker 1: This coming from a Wall Street Journal exclusive. Let me
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  Speaker 1: give you some more of the background. The Trump administration,
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  Speaker 1: they have confirmed, has halted new weapon sales to Ukraine,
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  Speaker 1: and they are contemplating freezing all shipments from US stockpiles,
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  Speaker 1: actions that could significantly impair Ukraine's defense against Russian forces.
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  Speaker 1: This decision follows contentious Oval Office meeting between Trump and Zelenski,
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  Speaker 1: during which Trump criticized Olenski's assertion that the wars end
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  Speaker 1: might be distant and suggests that the US military aid
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  Speaker 1: could be suspended if Ukraine does not actively pursue peace
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  Speaker 1: negotiations with the US now. The suspension includes halting new
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  Speaker 1: deals through the US foreign military financing system, which is
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  Speaker 1: vital for maintaining Ukraine's military capabilities. Analysts are warning that
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  Speaker 1: without US support, Ukraine's ability to resist Russian aggression could
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  Speaker 1: be severely compromised. European allies and Ukraine's defense industry may
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  Speaker 1: partially be able to compensate, we're also hearing at this hour,
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  Speaker 1: but the loss of advanced US weaponry presents a significant challenge.
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  Speaker 1: European leaders have expressed concern over this shift in US
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  Speaker 1: foreign policy. The French president has proposed a temporary truce
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  Speaker 1: to facilitate the negotiations with Europe showing willingness to support
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  Speaker 1: peacekeeping efforts, although Trump remains resistance to any US government involvement.
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  Speaker 1: European officials are advocating for a truce and calling for
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  Speaker 1: US European unity, while Trump has signaled that Zelensky must
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  Speaker 1: agree to a cease fire on US terms or face
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  Speaker 1: potential consequences. Now, the Trump administration and these recent actions
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  Speaker 1: indicate a significant shift in the US foreign policy regarding
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  Speaker 1: the Russia Ukraine conflict, especially after the way that Zolensky
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  Speaker 1: acted in the Oval office, making it very clear he
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  Speaker 1: is profiting off war and has no intentions of stopping
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  Speaker 1: this war or negotiating.
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  Speaker 2: For peace now.
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  Speaker 1: This move also puts Zelensky in an awkward situation with
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  Speaker 1: the Ukrainian citizens. There has not been election there since
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  Speaker 1: the war broke out. Many believe that he is a dictator,
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  Speaker 1: a de facto leader of the country, because no one
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  Speaker 1: really knows who supports him. And if you're a citizen
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  Speaker 1: in Ukraine and you see that the number one thing
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  Speaker 1: that is keeping you somewhat safe, which is US military armory,
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  Speaker 1: and you're going to lose that, then the people in
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  Speaker 1: Ukraine may turn against Zolensky.
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  Speaker 2: One of the most shocking.
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  Speaker 1: Things that Zelensky has also said is that quote, the
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  Speaker 1: US will have to send their sons and daughters, and
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  Speaker 1: they will have to fight, and they will be dying.
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  Speaker 1: This explains much of Zelensky's ridiculous conduct. He thinks he
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  Speaker 1: has leverage over the United States taxpayer and over Donald
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  Speaker 1: Trump due to our treaty commitments.
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  Speaker 2: He is obviously very wrong.
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  Speaker 1: Based on the actions of Donald Trump in the last
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  Speaker 1: forty eight hours, we also know that Zelensky has shut
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  Speaker 1: down calls for the immediate cease fire in the war
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  Speaker 1: with Russia. He is being defiant today as Ukraine shot
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  Speaker 1: down as a nation the prospect of even agreeing to
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  Speaker 1: a ceasefire with Russia, despite his country being on the
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  Speaker 1: back foot after three years of war with a much
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  Speaker 1: larger adversary, apparently bolstered by fawning displays of support from
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  Speaker 1: European leaders in London. On Sunday, Zelensky express intend to
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  Speaker 1: quote continue the war until he is satisfied with these
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  Speaker 1: security guarantees on offer from Western Powers, saying quote, if
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  Speaker 1: you don't have an end to the war and you
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  Speaker 1: don't have security guarantees, no one is able to control
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  Speaker 1: a ceasefires, Zolensky said to The Financial Times. The Ukrainian
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  Speaker 1: leader argued that Russia's history of launching invasions after agreeing
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  Speaker 1: to previous ceasefires has convinced him that a meaningful deterrent
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  Speaker 1: would need to be in place before Kiev stands down
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  Speaker 1: its forces. To be clear, that is not what Donald
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  Speaker 1: Trump actually asked him to do. No one in the
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  Speaker 1: US government asked him to stand down his forces, So
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  Speaker 1: he's clearly changing the narrative, trying to imply that we
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  Speaker 1: said stop fighting and protecting yourself.
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  Speaker 2: Quote.
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  Speaker 1: For US security guarantees are confidence that the same things
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  Speaker 1: won't happen after this hot stage is over.
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  Speaker 2: Now.
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  Speaker 1: President Trump has argued that previous agreements were broken under
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  Speaker 1: weak presidents like Joe Biden Barack Obama, and then a
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  Speaker 1: ceasefire would merely be the first step towards a broader,
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  Speaker 1: concrete deal between the two nations. Zelensky said that he
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  Speaker 1: was made aware of plans floated by President Macrone for
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  Speaker 1: a month long truce of fighting in the air see
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  Speaker 1: and attacks on energy infrastructure, but reportedly refused to comment
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  Speaker 1: whether he would be amendable to this proposal now. During
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  Speaker 1: the summit in London on Sunday, the British Prime Minister
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  Speaker 1: Starmer and President Macrone said that they would seek to
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  Speaker 1: forge a quote framework peace agreement with Zelenski and present
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  Speaker 1: it to Washington after the talks broke down between Trump
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  Speaker 1: and the Ukrainian leader in the Oval Office on Friday.
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  Speaker 1: While the London summit brought over a dozen leaders together
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  Speaker 1: to discuss Europe's role, they concluded yet again with no
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  Speaker 1: other nation signing unto plans from the British and French
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  Speaker 1: for a pan European peacekeeping force, another failure by Europe,
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  Speaker 1: and while the Prime Minister Starmer said that he.
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  Speaker 2: Was willing to commit British troops and.
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  Speaker 1: Planes on the ground in Ukraine, he said that such
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  Speaker 1: a force would need the backing of the United States.
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  Speaker 1: In other words, we're not getting into this war without
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  Speaker 1: America being involved, and there's no indication that Washington or
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  Speaker 1: the President or the Pentagon is wanting to actually send
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  Speaker 1: US troops to Ukraine. In fact, most Americans now say
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  Speaker 1: they do not support this war and they want a
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  Speaker 1: peace deal as soon as possible. They also do not
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  Speaker 1: want their tax dollars going there either. Now, despite having
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: left Washington early over the weekend without having signed the
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  Speaker 1: simple Mineral Investment agreement for which he traveled to the
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  Speaker 1: United States of America for. Zelensky said that his government
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  Speaker 1: was prepared to sign the deal and said we can
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  Speaker 1: get it done. It is unclear if the offer, by
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  Speaker 1: the way, from the Trump White House still stands after
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  Speaker 1: what happened on Friday. We also know that the US
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  Speaker 1: Treasury Secretary told CBS on Sunday that the deal was
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  Speaker 1: intended as a stepping stone towards a peace agreement and
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: that it would be pointless to sign if Selensky wants
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  Speaker 1: the fighting to continue, as President Trump said he wants
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  Speaker 1: a peace deal now.
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  Speaker 2: It also remains to be seen how.
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  Speaker 1: Stable Zelensky's position in Kiev will be on his return
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  Speaker 1: after the disastrous meeting with President Trump, which resulted in
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: heavy criticism both at home and abroad for his oval
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  Speaker 1: office antics. Multiple European leaders and politicians urged Zelensky to
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  Speaker 1: mend tize with the US president as soon as possible,
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: but he has maintained that he will not apologize to
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: President Trump no matter what now. Zelensky has been blasted
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: by Ukrainian lawmakers for the first time publicly for arguing
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: with President Trump, because even they understand just how important
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: the relationship is.
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  Speaker 2: A prominent Ukrainian lawmaker declared.
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  Speaker 1: It was absolute idiocy for President Zelensky to openly argue
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: with the US President Trump in front of the world
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: during their Oval Office meeting on Friday. The Member of
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: the Parliament in Kiev lamented that Ukrainian's relationship with President
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: Trump came to an end on Friday after a heated
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  Speaker 1: White House meeting, and he accused Zolensky of not understanding
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: what leadership actually looks like. He went on to write
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  Speaker 1: on Facebook, absolute idiocy to start arguing all caps with
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  Speaker 1: the President of the United States in front of the cameras,
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: adding that it can be done and probably should be done,
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  Speaker 1: but not in front of the cameras.
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  Speaker 2: The Ukrainian MP, who sits with the European.
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  Speaker 1: Solidarity Block of the former Ukrainian President Pershenko in Parliament,
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  Speaker 1: went on to warn that Zelensky's behavior on Friday could
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: have very bad consequences for Ukraine.
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: He said that.
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  Speaker 1: Such consequences could include a potential shutdown of elon musk
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: Starlink internet access to the Ukrainian armed forces, to even
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: an end of Washington sharing intelligence with Keith, both of
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: which have been critical for Ukraine and its war with Russia,
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: and the Ukrainian lawmaker added quote, Zelensky has put millions
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: of people at risk and its madness. He also appeared
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: to agree with President Trump's conclusion that Zelensky was not prepared
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: for peace, writing quote, this time, it's not only Putin's choice.
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: He wants a war. It's totally obvious.
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: But on February the twenty eighth, this choice, the choice
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: of war, was also made by the Ukrainian leader Zolenski.
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: It's his common choice with Putin. This is the first
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: time we've seen major leaders in Ukraine standing up to Zelenski.
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: The question now will be what will happen in the
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: days and weeks ahead as the man who says he's
• 26:33
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