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170+ Names of Epstein's High Profile Associates to be Unsealed · The Ben Ferguson Podcast

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Speaker 1: There is going to be some sort of justice.
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Speaker 2: I don't know exactly what it's going to look like yet,
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Speaker 2: but it's going to be significant, as we are now
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Speaker 2: going to find out over one hundred and seventy names
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Speaker 2: of Jeffrey Epstein's high profile associates. They will be named
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Speaker 2: in court documents set to be unsealed for in the
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Speaker 2: first days of twenty twenty four.
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Speaker 1: New reports have.
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Speaker 2: Come out a judge's rule to unseal the documents that
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Speaker 2: would name one hundred and seventy seven does who are
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Speaker 2: Epstein's friends, recruiters and victims within the coming weeks.
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Speaker 1: The material is related to a.
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Speaker 2: Defamation case brought by Prince Andrew's accuser, Virginia Roberts in
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Speaker 2: New York against Epstein's Madden Maxwell. You may remember her
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Speaker 2: as the girlfriend slash perverted psycho sicko that was trafficking
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Speaker 2: underage girls with Jeffrey Epstein. The hundreds of files, they say,
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Speaker 2: will shed new light on the late financiers sex trafficking
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Speaker 2: operation and his network of influence. This now coming from
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Speaker 2: The Daily Mail. Dozens of Jeffrey Epstein's high profile associates
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Speaker 2: are in for a New Year's surprise, as they will
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Speaker 2: be named in court documents set to be released in
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Speaker 2: the first days of twenty twenty four. The pedophile's powerful
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Speaker 2: friends are set to be exposed as part of a
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Speaker 2: vast unseiling that a judge ordered on Monday will take.
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Speaker 1: Place in just days it will take.
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Speaker 2: It will take the release day to January one, but
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Speaker 2: as that is a holiday, is likely the files will
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Speaker 2: be made public the second or the third. Some of
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Speaker 2: the one hundred and seventy seven people will be identified
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Speaker 2: across hundreds of files, which will shed new light on
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Speaker 2: the late financiers sex trafficking operations and his network of
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Speaker 2: influencers and those that partook in these activities. Judge Loretta
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Speaker 2: wrote unsealed in full, next to the names of one
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Speaker 2: hundred and seventy seven does who were Epstein's friends, recruiters, victims,
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Speaker 2: and others whose names will be revealed when the materials
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Speaker 2: release within the coming weeks. The material is related to
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Speaker 2: a defamation case, as I mentioned earlier, brought by Prince
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Speaker 2: Andrew's accuser, Virginia Roberts in New York.
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Speaker 1: Against Epstein's madam.
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Speaker 2: As you remember, Robert sued Maxwell for defamation in twenty sixteen,
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Speaker 2: and while the case was settled, the Miami Harrald, which
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Speaker 2: published a bomb show expose of Epstein that led to
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Speaker 2: his arrest in nineteen sue to get the documents made public.
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Speaker 2: Some of the does are identified in the ruling through
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Speaker 2: links to interviews they have given to the media, which
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Speaker 2: the judge cited as a reason why they should not
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Speaker 2: stay private. They include the housekeepers on Epstein's private island
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Speaker 2: in the Caribbean, where some of the worst abuse that
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Speaker 2: he perpetrated was carried out. In ruling, the judge gave
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Speaker 2: fourteen days for any does who objected to their documents
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Speaker 2: being made public to object, after which they would be unsealed.
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Speaker 2: There will be documents about one of Prince Andrew's accusers
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Speaker 2: who claim he fondled her breasts at Epstein's New York mansion.
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Speaker 2: There will also be a material about Hallie Robson, who
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Speaker 2: was named as a recruiter in police files of Epstein's
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Speaker 2: original investigation back in two thousand and six in Palm Beach,
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Speaker 2: though she has more recently claimed she was a victim II.
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Speaker 2: The filing suggests some documents will be related to a
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Speaker 2: French model scout who was close to apscene and allegedly
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Speaker 2: abused many young women. Brennew hanged himself in a Paris
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Speaker 2: prison cell in twenty twenty two while waiting trial on
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Speaker 2: a slew of sex charges. The documents in the case
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Speaker 2: have been released on a role basis in twenty nineteen,
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Speaker 2: when the first batch were made public days before. Epstein
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Speaker 2: also hanged himself allegedly in prison while awaiting trial on
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Speaker 2: his sex trafficking charges. Among the revelations and previous batches
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Speaker 2: of documents were emails between Prince Andrew and Epstein in
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Speaker 2: twenty fifteen when Roberts made allegations about him. The batch
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Speaker 2: of one hundred and seventy seven DOZE in the final
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Speaker 2: group is excuse me, I should say the final group.
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Speaker 2: It includes many who were notified by the court but
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Speaker 2: did not object to documents with their names on them
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Speaker 2: being made public. The material is likely to include depositions
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Speaker 2: were now being told, emails, legal documents, and other material
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Speaker 2: not previously made public.
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Speaker 1: Does three and four appear to be doze? Excuse me?
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Speaker 1: Let me rephrase that.
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Speaker 2: DOZE three and four appeared to be Miles and Kathy Alexander,
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Speaker 2: a South African couple who managed Little Saint James Epstein's
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Speaker 2: private island in the Caribbean for years. The judge cited
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Speaker 2: a twenty eleven interview the couple gave The Daily Mail
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Speaker 2: as one of the reasons why their name should be
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Speaker 2: made public. In the interview, the couple claimed that it
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Speaker 2: was not their place to judge other people, even though
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Speaker 2: they suspected some of the girls on the island were young.
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Speaker 2: Kathy described how the Duke of York arrived with a
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Speaker 2: blonde brain surgeon in her thirties and that quote he
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Speaker 2: urinate on her foot when she trod on a sea urchin.
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Speaker 2: The tranch of documents will also include those referring to
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Speaker 2: any Farmer, one of the women who gave evidence at
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Speaker 2: Maxwell's trial. She's identified as Dough sixty three, as the
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Speaker 2: judge cited an interview she gave and notes she testified
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Speaker 2: under her own name. Doe sixty four appears to be
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Speaker 2: a reference to Farmer's sister, Maria, as it cites the
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Speaker 2: same interview as her sister in which both of them spoke.
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Speaker 2: Doe sixty seven is one of the recruiters who was
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Speaker 2: named during Maxwell's trial for alluring a fourteen year old
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Speaker 2: girl into Jeffrey Epstein's web. Caroline, who identified who I
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Speaker 2: should Say, who testified at Maxwell's trial that she was
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Speaker 2: recruited at age fourteen and repeatedly raped by Epstein, is
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Speaker 2: identified as Dough number five due to an interview which
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Speaker 2: the ruling cited. Tragically, she died earlier this year from
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Speaker 2: an overdose in a hotel room in Florida. Dough twenty
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Speaker 2: three appeared to be brenew as it refers to a
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Speaker 2: person who was subject to a widely public besides criminal
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Speaker 2: prosecution abroad for you guessed it, sex trafficking. Brenell was
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Speaker 2: arrested for the crime in France, but committed suicide before
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Speaker 2: he could go to trial. It's amazing how many people
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Speaker 2: die that are connected to Epstein.
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Speaker 1: Have you noticed that?
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Speaker 3: To me?
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Speaker 2: I keep going through the list of Oh, well, this
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Speaker 2: person commits suicide, this person committed suicide, this person overdose,
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Speaker 2: this person died.
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Speaker 1: Dough twenty four is the.
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Speaker 2: Only one who is identified by name Harvard law professor
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Speaker 2: Alan Dursowitz, who has publicly called for all material related
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Speaker 2: to him to be made public. Now this judge, Presca
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Speaker 2: cited an NBC News interview she gave as the reason
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Speaker 2: for conceealing material related to Doe forty four. Among those
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Speaker 2: who spoke out in the interview were Roberts and Epstein's victims.
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Speaker 2: Another woman who says she was repeatedly raped by the
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Speaker 2: pedophile as well, also featured in the interviewer Epstein's victims,
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Speaker 2: a girl by the name of Jennifer and Rachel.
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Speaker 1: It's unclear which person the ruling refers to. Dough one, p.
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Speaker 2: Fifty four is Hailey Robson, who spoke out in the
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Speaker 2: Netflix series Filthy Rich about Epstein's crimes and described how
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Speaker 2: she was already a rape victim by the age of
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Speaker 2: sixteen when she got caught in his web. In the
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Speaker 2: interview cited by the judge, Robson says that her image
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Speaker 2: has portrayed in police reports. She bragged that she was
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Speaker 2: like Heidie Feiss, the infamous Hollywood madam. She was not
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Speaker 2: mature enough to understand what was happening to her at
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Speaker 2: the time. Perhaps most alarming for Prince Andrew is the
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Speaker 2: inclusion of another one of Epstein's victims in the list
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Speaker 2: of does the judge effectively named Joanna as Jane Doe
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Speaker 2: one sixty two by citing a male article about her
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Speaker 2: from twenty twenty one. So far, only small expert excerpts
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Speaker 2: of her depositions have been made public, and those have
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Speaker 2: the Grand Home after some sight seeing and Prince Andrew
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Speaker 2: was there in a couple of other girls my age.
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Speaker 1: Prince Andrew was very charming, she said.
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Speaker 2: She said that Maxwell, the madam and girlfriend of Epstein,
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Speaker 2: came down with a present for him, a latex puppet
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Speaker 2: of him from Spitting Image, a satirical British TV show.
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Speaker 2: The victim added that Andrew had thought the puppet was
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Speaker 2: funny because it was him she said in a deposition,
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Speaker 2: I just remember someone suggesting a photo, and they told
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Speaker 2: us to get on the couch, and so Virginia Roberts
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Speaker 2: and Andrew said on the couch, and they put the
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Speaker 2: puppet on her lap quote, and so I sat on
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Speaker 2: Andrew's lap.
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Speaker 1: I believe my own I believe in my own politician.
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Speaker 2: And they took the puppet's hand and put it on
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Speaker 2: Virginia's breast, and so Andrew put his on mine. It
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Speaker 2: was all done in a joking manner, and everybody laughed.
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Speaker 2: Janelle was a dirt, had a dirty sense of humor.
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Speaker 2: There are ten doughs whose names will not be made
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Speaker 2: public the judge rule because they are minor victims whose
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Speaker 2: names have not been.
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Speaker 1: Publicly revealed before quote.
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Speaker 2: In those cases, their privacy outweighs the public's right to know.
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Speaker 2: The ruling stated and previously released documents. In the case,
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Speaker 2: Roberts named for the first time other powerful men she
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Speaker 2: alleges that she had sex with, including former New Mexico
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Speaker 2: Governor Bill Richardson.
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Speaker 1: Bill Richardson died in September.
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Speaker 2: Other names included wealthy financier Glenn Dubin and now Deceeize
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Speaker 2: mit scientists, Marvin Minsky, along with along with other prints,
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Speaker 2: a foreign president, a well known prime minister, and the
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Speaker 2: owner of a large hotel chain in France. Emails sent
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Speaker 2: by Andrew to Maxwell showed the panic that gripped him
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Speaker 2: in early twenty fifteen when Roberts made her allegations against him.
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Speaker 2: In fact, an email to Maxwell five point fifty am
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Speaker 2: on January the fifth, twenty fifteen, the Duke wrote, let
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Speaker 2: me know when we can talk. Got some specific questions
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Speaker 2: to ask you about Virginia Roberts. Maxwell replied, have some
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Speaker 2: info call me when you have a moment. Roberts sued
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Speaker 2: Andrew in twenty twenty one at a court in New
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Speaker 2: York for battery and infliction of emotional distress. They settled
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Speaker 2: the case in February of twenty twenty two for a
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Speaker 2: reported twelve million dollars. Andrew, of course, has always denied
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Speaker 2: any wrongdoing and told the BBC in an interview that
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Speaker 2: he never remembered meeting Roberts, who now lives in Australia
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Speaker 2: and goes.
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Speaker 1: By her married name.
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Speaker 2: These over one hundred and seventy high profile associates being
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Speaker 2: named is exactly what should happen. It should have happened,
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Speaker 2: by the way, a long time ago. It should have
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Speaker 2: happened a very long time ago. And the fact that
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Speaker 2: it took this long, and by the way, I'm glad
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Speaker 2: that this is happening. I'm glad that it coming out.
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Speaker 2: I think it's important that it's coming out now. But
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Speaker 2: you've got over one hundred and seventy of Jeffrey Epstein's
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Speaker 2: high profile associates that will be named in court documents
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Speaker 2: set to be unsealed, and these people are going to
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Speaker 2: be terrified of what we're going to finally get to
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Speaker 2: see as a public. What I also think is incredibly
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Speaker 2: frustrating is how many of these men who victimized and
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Speaker 2: had sex and or raped underage girls still are in
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Speaker 2: massive positions of power and have been flourishing because their
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Speaker 2: names have been protected. That's something else that needs to
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Speaker 2: be talked about. It's not just the fact that they
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Speaker 2: deserve to be held accountable for what they have I
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Speaker 2: think done in these horrific sexual abuse of underage girls,
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Speaker 2: but it's the fact that the entire system has been
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Speaker 2: protecting them. You know, Jeffrey Epstein's death and and I
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Speaker 2: you know, I don't believe that he hung himself. I
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Speaker 2: want to be clear. I don't believe that the cameras
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Speaker 2: are accidentally not working on that night. I don't believe
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Speaker 2: that the recorders were accidentally turned off. I don't believe
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Speaker 2: any of that. I think they're incredibly powerful men, Democrats
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Speaker 2: and Republicans from what I've been told, who are doing.
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Speaker 1: Everything they can to protect themselves.
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Speaker 2: I don't believe for a second that what happened with
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Speaker 2: his death was accurate. I think everybody has been lying
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Speaker 2: because there are such high profile I mean, look at
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Speaker 2: the words use a powerful president.
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Speaker 1: Of a foreign country.
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Speaker 2: She says, there was a part of this ring, top executives,
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Speaker 2: top CEOs, members of the royal family.
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Speaker 1: What else do you need? Seriously, what else do you need?
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Speaker 2: But when there are this many people that are this big,
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Speaker 2: they have power, they have they to protect themselves, they
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Speaker 2: have the ability to at all costs. And this, let
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Speaker 2: me compare this to one thing with the Biden crime family.
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Speaker 2: When you're so powerful and you have so much on
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Speaker 2: so many people that even when you do fall from grace,
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Speaker 2: there's still people that need to protect you.
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Speaker 1: And that's how Jeffrey Epstein set this up.
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Speaker 2: Very much the same way that the Biden crime family
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Speaker 2: has been set up. Right, you have other people that
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Speaker 2: if I go down, you go down with me. Right,
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Speaker 2: you want to tell the dirty laundry? Fine, guess what
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Speaker 2: everybody goes down? So there is a protection here. I mean,
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Speaker 2: we've been told that they had videotapes that Epstein had
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Speaker 2: of hidden cameras that are that Apparently the FBI has
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Speaker 2: had for years, blackmail videos that Epstein had so people
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Speaker 2: would come in that were high powered he would put
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Speaker 2: from what we understand, he had hidden cameras in rooms
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Speaker 2: where they were doing their sexual acts, and that was
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Speaker 2: his way of protecting himself, like, hey, you come after me,
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Speaker 2: or you don't do what I need for you, and
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Speaker 2: guess what happens.
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Speaker 1: You want to play that game, then let's play that game.
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Speaker 1: That's I mean, it's unbelievable.
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Speaker 2: It's absolutely unbelievable. Let me also say this about Epstein
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Speaker 2: because again this is a these one hundred and seventy
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Speaker 2: of Jeffrey Epstein's high profile.
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Speaker 1: Associates that are going to be named. Why did this
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Speaker 1: take so long?
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Speaker 2: Why why is it that he was protected for so
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Speaker 2: long even after his death. It's not about him, It's
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Speaker 2: because the people around him know what's going to happen.
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Speaker 2: I want to play for you, Jeffrey Berman, he's used
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Speaker 2: attorney for the Southern District of New York, and what
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Speaker 2: he had to say to press conference this is back
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Speaker 2: in twenty and nineteen, about Jeffrey Epstein and the victims
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Speaker 2: around him, and by the way, the many people that
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Speaker 2: abused these women as well.
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Speaker 4: Listen, I was fourteen years old at the time that
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Speaker 4: they were allegedly abused. As alleged, Epstein was well aware
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Speaker 4: that many of his victims were miners, and not surprisingly,
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Speaker 4: many of the underage girls that Epstein allegedly victimized were
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Speaker 4: particularly vulnerable to exploitation. The alleged behavior shocks the conscience,
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Speaker 4: and while the charge conduct is from a number of
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Speaker 4: years ago, it is still profoundly important to the many
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Speaker 4: alleged victims, now young women. They deserved their day in court,
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Speaker 4: and we are proud to be standing up for them
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Speaker 4: by bringing this indictment. Combating sex trafficking and exploitation of
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Speaker 4: children is a priority for this office and for the
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Speaker 4: Department of Justice, as the sexual abuse of a minor
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Speaker 4: can have devastating effects on victims, often lasting for years.
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Speaker 4: That is why my office will not rest until perpetrators
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Speaker 4: of these types of crimes are brought to justice. Victims voices,
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Speaker 4: including the many voices of Epstein's alleged victims, must be heard.
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Speaker 4: To that end, I want to say, and.
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Speaker 2: Let me jump back in here and just say he
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Speaker 2: lied to you, the last part that he said there.
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Speaker 2: They deserve their day in court and we are proud
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Speaker 2: to be standing up for them by bringing this indictment.
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Speaker 2: Combating sex trafficking and exploitation of children as a priority
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Speaker 2: for this office and the Department of Justice, as the
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Speaker 2: sexual abuse of a minor can have devastating effects on victims,
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Speaker 2: often lasting for years. It's why my office will not
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Speaker 2: rest until perpetrators of these types of crimes are brought
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Speaker 2: to justice. Victims voices, including the many voices of Epstein's
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Speaker 2: alleged victims, must be heard. The problem is that's a
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Speaker 2: lie because not a single person has been.
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Speaker 1: Arrested, and that that was a.
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Speaker 2: Client of Jeffrey Epstein and Maxwell. You've got the highest
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Speaker 2: level of of world leaders, of executives who were partaking
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Speaker 2: in the abuse, the sexual abuse and sex trafficking of minors,
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Speaker 2: and the Democratic Party with this US Attorney in the
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Speaker 2: Southern District of New York said, we're going to make
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Speaker 2: sure we get them.
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Speaker 1: None of it happened.
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Speaker 2: Let me let me remind you when Bill Quinton got
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Speaker 2: asked about his connection to Jeffrey Epstein and Epstein Island,
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Speaker 2: and remember he was there several times. Take a listen
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Speaker 2: to what he had to say when he was asked
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Speaker 2: about it.
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Speaker 4: And he comments, on your allegation of your thought production
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Speaker 4: with Jeffrey.
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Speaker 2: Epstein, Bills, if you looked at the camera and laughed,
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Speaker 2: He's like, I think the evidence is clear. Ha ha,
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Speaker 2: he laughs, He looks at the Cameron laughs. There are
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Speaker 2: pictures of Bill Clinton receiving back massages by those that
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Speaker 2: were abused by Jeffrey Epstein.
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Speaker 1: We know this, Hugh Hewitt saying back.
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Speaker 2: In twenty and sixteen on MSNBC, this about Jeffrey Epstein
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Speaker 2: and Bill Clinton directly.
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Speaker 3: Crossing the line how Donald Trump behaved with women in private.
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Speaker 3: The woman we're talking about here, Rowayanne Brewer Lane, was
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Speaker 3: the lead anecdote they used in this story. She's saying
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Speaker 3: he was a gentleman. These are her words. She's saying
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Speaker 3: he was a gentleman toward me. There were no issues.
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Speaker 3: I had no problem with him whatsoever. The Times twisted this.
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Speaker 3: You heard the Time statement there, this is from the
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Speaker 3: last few minutes.
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Speaker 1: What's your reaction to it?
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Speaker 5: My reaction in New York Times is not covering itself
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Speaker 5: in glory here, Steve. My first reaction when I saw
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Speaker 5: the piece yesterday was I wonder if there is any
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Speaker 5: similar piece on Bill Clinton from May of nineteen ninety.
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Speaker 1: Two, And of course there isn't.
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Speaker 5: There was some coverage of Jennifer Flowers, but no in
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Speaker 5: depth reporting on Bill Clinton's past relationship with women to
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Speaker 5: whom he was not married. So I think the double
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Speaker 5: standard has.
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Speaker 1: Already at play.
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Speaker 5: And then to have one of your key participants in
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Speaker 5: the story step forward and say that she has been
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Speaker 5: mischaracterized on the Morning After is a significant hit on
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Speaker 5: the New York Times. I'd also add that this morning
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Speaker 5: on Morning Joe, the name Jeffrey Epstein came up for
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Speaker 5: the first time, and Bill Clinton Jeffrey Epstein. That's not
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Speaker 5: a Google search that the Clinton campaign really wants to
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Speaker 5: have people undertaking on a daily basis.
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Speaker 1: So at the end of this news.
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Speaker 5: Cycle or halfway through this news cycle, I don't think
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Speaker 5: it's helping Hillary Clinton to be talking about the past
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Speaker 5: infidelities or alleged improprieties of any candidate or their.
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Speaker 1: Spouse right now.
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Speaker 2: By the way, what he said there about Epstein, that
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Speaker 2: was back in twenty sixteen, the New York Times of
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Speaker 2: this hit piece on Trump the people. They were saying
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Speaker 2: that he was acting inappropriately with I said, no, that's
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Speaker 2: not true at all.
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Speaker 1: They twisted the headlines.
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Speaker 2: But it's Jeffrey Epstein and Bill Clinton out at Google
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Speaker 2: search the Clinton campaign once I couldn't agree more. You know,
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Speaker 2: Democrats defended Epstein. They defended Epstein at all costs. There
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Speaker 2: was also something else that happened. It was the Plea deal,
23:25
Speaker 2: the Epstein Plea Deal. Many referred to it as a
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Speaker 2: example of a rigged system. Steve Hilton on Fox saying
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Speaker 2: this back in twenty nineteen.
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Speaker 6: Trace, thank you very much here now, Steve Hilton, host
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Speaker 6: of the Next Revolution. There are a lot of people, Steve,
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Speaker 6: who do not want this story to see the light
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Speaker 6: of day.
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Speaker 1: Again, that's exactly right.
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Speaker 7: But it's really important that we do for exactly those
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Speaker 7: facts that Trace laid out there so brilliantly. This is
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Speaker 7: a really outrageous example of something that people have been
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Speaker 7: complaining about more and more of the last few years.
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Speaker 7: We hear it all the time, the rigged system. And
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Speaker 7: I'd ask people to think about it like this. Everyone
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Speaker 7: who thinks that Hillary Clinton, for example, and the Clintons,
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Speaker 7: the way that they've been treated by the justice system
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Speaker 7: means that there's one rule for the rich and the
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Speaker 7: powerful and the well connected and one for everyone else.
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Speaker 7: It's exactly the same here for this monster. And that's
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Speaker 7: what he is. He's a pedophile monster, this guy Epstein.
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Speaker 7: And it turns out because you've got friends like Alexandra
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Speaker 7: Costa in your pocket back then in Florida, you get
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Speaker 7: away with a sentence that no one else who didn't
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Speaker 7: have that wealth and those connections would do. And if
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Speaker 7: there's one rule for the Clintons should be the same.
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Speaker 1: Here he should go.
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Speaker 6: It's pretty incredible thirteen month sentence, and he was allowed
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Speaker 6: to leave six days a week, so he pretty much
24:47
Speaker 6: had free reign to do whatever he wanted one he
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Speaker 6: was supposedly incarcerated. This is a statement from mister Acosta
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Speaker 6: back in twenty eleven on this case. He says, the
24:57
Speaker 6: bottom line is, mister Jeffrey Epstein a billionaire, served time
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Speaker 6: in jail and is now a registered sex offender. He's
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Speaker 6: been required to pay his victims restitution. The restitution clearly
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Speaker 6: cannot compensate for the crime. But there's some really great
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Speaker 6: reporting that it was done by the Miami Herald on
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Speaker 6: this story and they spoke to a lot of these
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Speaker 6: women and what their concern is that they were never
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Speaker 6: told that a deal was being made and they feel
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Speaker 6: like they never got their day to tell their story
25:28
Speaker 6: before he was sentenced.
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Speaker 7: That's exactly right, and that's what's been investigated now, and
25:36
Speaker 7: it looks like that that itself was a crime on
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Speaker 7: the part of the prosecutors. They didn't follow the rules.
25:42
Speaker 7: So in that statement from the Labor Department saying, well,
25:44
Speaker 7: he followed that it was all agreed by the high
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Speaker 7: ups and he was just following procedure. First of all,
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Speaker 7: it's disgusting to hide behind the kind of bureaucratic fine
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Speaker 7: print in that way and not take responsibility. But secondly,
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Speaker 7: it doesn't even look as if it was true. And
25:57
Speaker 7: there's another thing I'd say, It's like, look fine, he
25:59
Speaker 7: may be doing it a good job as labor secretary.
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Speaker 1: I don't have any reason to doubt that.
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Speaker 7: I mean, obviously we've got a very good economy, people
26:05
Speaker 7: are getting jobs.
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Speaker 1: That's great.
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Speaker 7: But honestly, if there's no accountability here, if something like
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Speaker 7: this can happen, if a monster like this can get
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Speaker 7: away with this, and people can see all the facts
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Speaker 7: and see that nothing is done about it, and that
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Speaker 7: Alexandro Cosa just sails on without taking responsibility, it will
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Speaker 7: further undermine everyone's confidence in our entire system of governance.
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Speaker 1: Great points, Uh, he got a deal, then they protected him.
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Speaker 2: He went home six out of seven days a week
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Speaker 2: while it was supposed to be in jail, and they
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Speaker 2: made sure that all this went away from him so
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Speaker 2: he could then do it again. And the people that
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Speaker 2: were protecting him are the people that I'm sure he
26:43
Speaker 2: could blackmail that he had on tapes, and that was
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Speaker 2: his in essence, get out of jail free card at
26:48
Speaker 2: least six out of seven days a week while he
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Speaker 2: was supposed to be in jail, and then he got
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Speaker 2: back out and he was.
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Speaker 1: Able to do it all over again.
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