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Walz Says It's Time to Rid America of Electoral College so Dems NEVER Lose Again · The Ben Ferguson Podcast

• 0:01
  Speaker 1: Twenty five days until election day? Can you believe it?
• 0:04
  Speaker 1: Twenty five days? That's where we are.
• 0:07
  Speaker 2: What's the media doing? Rolling out the red carpet.
• 0:12
  Speaker 1: Tim Walltz doing a one on one interview on Good
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  Speaker 1: Morning America. He sat down with Michael Strahan, you know,
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  Speaker 1: the guy that played football, because that's a hard hitting,
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  Speaker 1: you know, sit down interview to discuss President Biden's record,
• 0:26
  Speaker 1: the economy, gun violence, and more. Were just twenty five
• 0:30
  Speaker 1: days to go. The interview went exactly as you would expect.
• 0:35
  Speaker 1: The guy, Well, he lies a lot. We know that
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  Speaker 1: he lied about his service, he lied about his rank,
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  Speaker 1: He's lied about in Vitro with his own family.
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  Speaker 2: He's lied about a lot of different things.
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  Speaker 1: And he lied about being in Keennom Square for example,
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  Speaker 1: and then said, well, you know, I sometimes misspeak, right.
• 0:56
  Speaker 1: He lied about seeing combat, which he never saw. Stolen
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  Speaker 1: valor is what you call that. But the media is
• 1:03
  Speaker 1: willing to whitewash all of that because they are one
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  Speaker 1: and the same. They work together. He did this interview
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  Speaker 1: a moment ago. I'm going to play some of it
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  Speaker 1: for you and I'm going to give you some commentary
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  Speaker 1: as he continues to push out these lies. I also
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  Speaker 1: want you to listen very carefully to the questioning. Now,
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  Speaker 1: let me explain why I say that I want you
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  Speaker 1: to listen to questioning. There's not a lot of hard questions.
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  Speaker 1: I also think it's pretty clear from how easy he
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  Speaker 1: is answering some of these questions that he knew exactly
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  Speaker 1: what was coming his way, Like he knew the questions
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  Speaker 1: that were clearly going to be asked. He was prepared.
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  Speaker 1: I would even argue he was overly prepared for the
• 1:51
  Speaker 1: questions that he was asked. It was pretty clear that
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  Speaker 1: this was all orchestrated. Just like Telemundo yesterday when they
• 2:00
  Speaker 1: had a teleprompter for the town hall for Kamala Harris
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  Speaker 1: so she could read from a teleprompter while acting like
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  Speaker 1: it was a real authentic town hall.
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  Speaker 2: It was. It was all scripted. Take a listen.
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  Speaker 3: Vice President Harris was asked this week on the view
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  Speaker 3: she would have done anything differently than President Biden with
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  Speaker 3: President Biden that he had done in the past four years,
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  Speaker 3: and she said, quote, there's not a thing that comes
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  Speaker 3: to mind. And she later says she would have a
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  Speaker 3: Republican in her cabinet, and when it comes to President
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  Speaker 3: and Biden and the presidency. Do you would you and
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  Speaker 3: do you see anything that you would have done there?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah? And look, I as a governor.
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  Speaker 5: I was asked to be governor of this state when
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  Speaker 5: Donald Trump was president and when Joe Biden was there.
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  Speaker 5: And I watched Donald Trump dismiss the COVID pandemic. I
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  Speaker 5: watched him drive an economy into the ground, and I
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  Speaker 5: watched Joe Biden Kamala Harris pick those pieces up. And
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  Speaker 5: I think for all of us, we make decisions, we
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  Speaker 5: reanalyze afterwards. I think the thing that drew me to
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  Speaker 5: this ticket, and I think what the Vice President's talking
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  Speaker 5: about is that her values on these hasn't changed. They
• 3:00
  Speaker 5: have been working for the middle class. They've been doing
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  Speaker 5: all they can to make sure prices come down. They're
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  Speaker 5: protecting reproductive care.
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  Speaker 3: So it makes me want to ask you, do you
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  Speaker 3: think that Biden's done everything right?
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  Speaker 1: Let's pause there, All right, So there's the first question, right,
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  Speaker 1: would you have done anything differently? He's sticking to his script, right,
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  Speaker 1: and then he gets asked to follow up, do you
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  Speaker 1: think that Joe Biden's done everything right? Because we're in
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  Speaker 1: a disaster right now. The new inflation numbers came out,
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  Speaker 1: Inflation went up, unemployment went up.
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  Speaker 2: People are struggling.
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  Speaker 1: Telemundo, for example, one of the people in the audience
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  Speaker 1: asked the question, my groceries used to cost me two
• 3:40
  Speaker 1: hundred dollars, now it's three hundred dollars. Talked about wages.
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  Speaker 1: People are really concerned about this.
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  Speaker 4: Now.
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  Speaker 2: I have to tell you, I understand, I got you questions.
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  Speaker 4: I do.
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  Speaker 1: And if you're in a bad economy and you've had
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  Speaker 1: all the problems that you Biden has had with prices,
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  Speaker 1: and you've had all the problems he's had with all
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  Speaker 1: the other issues that in this country, and the pull
• 4:07
  Speaker 1: out in Afghanistan and multiple wars that are popping up,
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  Speaker 1: and interest rates that have skyrocketed. Home ownership is unattainable
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  Speaker 1: for a large percentage of Americans now because of that.
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  Speaker 1: It shouldn't be partisan hackery to the point where you
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  Speaker 1: can't even answer a question like this, like if you're
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  Speaker 1: if you're a smart person, and I'm not talking about
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  Speaker 1: a smart politician, I'm just saying a smart person. If
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  Speaker 1: someone asks me like, hey, did the guy who's in
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  Speaker 1: office right now, when there's all these negatives around him,
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  Speaker 1: is there anything you would have done what you know
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  Speaker 1: that he should have done differently. You got to have
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  Speaker 1: a real authentic answer for that. You got to have
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  Speaker 1: an answer that is like, look, I think there's a
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  Speaker 1: lot of things that I would have, you know.
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  Speaker 2: Looked at differently.
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  Speaker 1: In fact, I think there's things that Joe Biden probably
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  Speaker 1: would have done differently, knowing where we are now, would
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  Speaker 1: have changed some things, some strategies. However, you want to
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  Speaker 1: put it without like knocking him. But you can answer
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  Speaker 1: that question authentically. But that's not how democrats roll. I
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  Speaker 1: actually go back to this. I don't believe they think
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  Speaker 1: anything's wrong right now. I think they think everything's perfect
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  Speaker 1: right now. I don't think that they believe that anything
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  Speaker 1: has been done in a negative way because they have
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  Speaker 1: more power and more control now than they've ever had.
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  Speaker 1: me go back to something that I was talking about
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  Speaker 1: a moment ago, and that Tim Waltz again is like
• 7:23
  Speaker 1: it's all been laid out, okay, So Waltz is out there,
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  Speaker 1: he's doing all these interviews, the media is trying to
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  Speaker 1: get them across the finish line with twenty five days ago.
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  Speaker 1: They know that they're in some trouble. So that's part
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  Speaker 1: of the problem is that they understand it. They got
• 7:38
  Speaker 1: to get people excited again about them. So it's like,
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  Speaker 1: all right, how do we pull this off?
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  Speaker 4: Right?
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  Speaker 2: Like, what do we do?
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  Speaker 1: And it's a great question, It's very tough. It's a
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  Speaker 1: hard one. So it's like, all right, how do.
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  Speaker 2: We do this?
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  Speaker 1: What do we do to get this going the way
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  Speaker 1: we need it to get going. Let me, I want
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  Speaker 1: to play this answer where number one the straight hand says, hey,
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  Speaker 1: Kamae hers the other day said you wouldn't have done
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  Speaker 1: anything different in the last four years, and they did
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  Speaker 1: nothing wrong, referring to Biden's policies. So he gives kind
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  Speaker 1: of a word salad answer and I'm going to back
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  Speaker 1: it up just a second so you can hear it.
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  Speaker 1: And then he's ask said, well, okay, like, so you
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  Speaker 1: think Joe Biden's done everything perfectly?
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  Speaker 2: Listen afterwards.
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  Speaker 5: I think the thing that drew me to this ticket,
• 8:27
  Speaker 5: and I think what the Vice president's talking about is
• 8:29
  Speaker 5: that her values on these hasn't changed. They have been
• 8:31
  Speaker 5: working for the middle class. They've been doing all they
• 8:34
  Speaker 5: can to make sure prices come down. They're protecting reproductive care.
• 8:37
  Speaker 5: So it makes me want to ask you, do you
• 8:39
  Speaker 5: think that Biden has done everything right? Well, look, I
• 8:41
  Speaker 5: don't know if any of us do everything right, but
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  Speaker 5: I can tell you he's done everything in the best
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  Speaker 5: interest in the American public. He's listened to what the
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  Speaker 5: public did, He's asked for answers, and I think, you
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  Speaker 5: know and reevaluated afterwards. And I think if your values
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  Speaker 5: and the judgments you're making and the ethical decisions you're making,
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  Speaker 5: he's done that. And I again have seen the difference
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  Speaker 5: that it made, especially during the COVID pandemic, of what
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  Speaker 5: it looks like to have that ethical, visionary leadership versus
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  Speaker 5: someone who's incredibly self centered.
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  Speaker 4: I want to go back to something you said on Tuesday.
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  Speaker 3: He said, I think all of us know the electoral
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  Speaker 3: College needs to go, but the campaign came out later
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  Speaker 3: that night and they said that's not their stands.
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  Speaker 2: By way, listen carefully to this question.
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  Speaker 1: He gives that other answer, right, He's like, well, I
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  Speaker 1: think you know moral No, not real hard answers, right, Like,
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  Speaker 1: it's all Kumbaiiism. There's nothing real there. It's like going
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  Speaker 1: to church or they don't actually talk about God. Like
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  Speaker 1: it's all warm and fuzzy and it's all everything's wonderful,
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  Speaker 1: and we make you feel good about yourself and we
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  Speaker 1: don't criticize or say there's anything that's right and wrong
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  Speaker 1: in the world. That's the campaign. You've got that type
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  Speaker 1: of leadership right now. The easiest way to get a
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  Speaker 1: church to grow these days is to tell everyone in
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  Speaker 1: the audience that no one's doing anything wrong, and you
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  Speaker 1: make everybody feel good about every bad decision they're making.
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  Speaker 1: That's basically the Biden Waltz campaign or the Harris Say
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  Speaker 1: Waltz campaign. And so then there's this other issue, and
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  Speaker 1: it's a throwaway issue.
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  Speaker 2: Is you can hear there throwaway.
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  Speaker 1: Issues or where you ask a question of somebody and
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  Speaker 1: you're expecting that you get through it quickly and you
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  Speaker 1: check the box. I want you to think about what
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  Speaker 1: Waltz said he wants to do. He wants to get
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  Speaker 1: rid of the electoral college. What does that mean. It
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  Speaker 1: means that the presidency of the United States of America
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  Speaker 1: would be picked by big cities. And the way that
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  Speaker 1: we campaign is you would literally not ever even step
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  Speaker 1: inside a place like you would not even campaign for
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  Speaker 1: the president in rural areas. You would never campaign in
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  Speaker 1: areas where there wasn't a lot of voters. So look
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  Speaker 1: at the map right if you go, and this is
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  Speaker 1: the reason why the founding fathers and our country wanted
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  Speaker 1: to make sure that people weren't overlooked. You go and
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  Speaker 1: look at a map right now, and you take a
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  Speaker 1: look at it. If you get rid of the electoral college,
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  Speaker 1: there's nobody that will care about Idaho, Oregon, Utah, Wyoming, Montana,
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  Speaker 1: North Dakota, South Dakota. No one would care about Iowa.
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  Speaker 1: No one would care about Maine, Vermont, New Hampshire, no
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  Speaker 1: one would care about Mississippi, Alabama, Louisiana. Probably like if
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  Speaker 1: you're on the liberal side, you would change the entire
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  Speaker 1: way that you look at the country and you run
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  Speaker 1: a campaign. Democrats would go and camp out in just
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  Speaker 1: the big cities where there are liberal cities, and they
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  Speaker 1: would just say, all right, we just got to get
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  Speaker 1: big turnout there, We just got to win the popular vote.
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  Speaker 1: All these other places in the country, we don't have
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  Speaker 1: to listen to them, we don't have to represent them.
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  Speaker 1: And then something else even worse than that would happen
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  Speaker 1: if you didn't have the electoral college the way that
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  Speaker 1: we have it, you would also have laws and policies
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  Speaker 1: that would favor big cities and hurt rural and smaller
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  Speaker 1: town America because you would say, all right, look, I
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  Speaker 1: need all of la to like me, so let's give
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  Speaker 1: them a bunch of free stuff. Let's divert a bunch
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  Speaker 1: of funds there, so people love me and they'll vote
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  Speaker 1: for me, and I don't care if we're screwing other
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  Speaker 1: Americans in other areas of the country. This is one
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  Speaker 1: of the reasons why the electoral College is vitally important,
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  Speaker 1: because if you don't have that, then what you're gonna
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  Speaker 1: have is you're gonna have taxation with.
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  Speaker 2: No representation at the White House.
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  Speaker 1: Because presidents would only do things that would like pump
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  Speaker 1: up their votes in a place like New York, LA, Boston, Miami, Atlanta,
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  Speaker 1: everybody else, you would just take and divert resources.
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  Speaker 2: And just screw them.
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  Speaker 1: Like that's the easiest way I can describe it.
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  Speaker 2: You would, you would say.
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  Speaker 1: Screw them and just let like just just screw them
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  Speaker 1: because we don't need their votes like we did before.
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  Speaker 1: We need to divert everything somewhere else. That's that's what
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  Speaker 1: it is. We just need to do it everywhere else. Well,
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  Speaker 1: then they asked him about like, well, are you different
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  Speaker 1: than the campaign? Now, of course I'm not different than
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  Speaker 1: the campaign. I love the campaign, right, Like that's what
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  Speaker 1: he says. Oh no, no, no, I love the campaign. I've
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  Speaker 1: got the same position as the campaign. Really you do,
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  Speaker 1: because you don't. But I think he's actually telling the truth.
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  Speaker 1: I think the campaign's line because they understand that now's
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  Speaker 1: not the time to say it, right. They're saying, now's
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  Speaker 1: not the time to actually admit what you really want
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  Speaker 1: to do, which is fundamentally change how we elect a
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  Speaker 1: president of the United States of America because Democrats would
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  Speaker 1: have much easier time.
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  Speaker 2: That's what this is actually about.
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  Speaker 1: And if you listen to how he responded that question,
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  Speaker 1: this is a threat to our democracy. I'm not sure
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  Speaker 1: that a Republican could ever win, and I'm not sure
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  Speaker 1: the American people would would ever be represented the way
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  Speaker 1: they are now if you change the electoral college the
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  Speaker 1: way that he's describing it to a popular vote only
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  Speaker 1: if you want to be represented, you'd have to move
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  Speaker 1: to a big city where they'd actually talked to you
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  Speaker 1: and care. But under representation, I mean, I'll give you
• 14:37
  Speaker 1: another example of this. Imagine look at how the response
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  Speaker 1: has been so different in the hurricanes that have hit
• 14:45
  Speaker 1: if by the biased in this administration, just by where
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  Speaker 1: you live. Imagine if a tornado hits in Middle America,
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  Speaker 1: they wouldn't send probably any help because they'd be like,
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  Speaker 1: I don't need those votes. There's not enough peace pull
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  Speaker 1: in these small towns of you know, Padukea, Kentucky, or Jacksonsissippi,
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  Speaker 1: or even Biloxi after Hurricane Katrina, like they'd just be like, look,
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  Speaker 1: we like we don't need those votes, don't send resources.
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  Speaker 1: You need to hold that money for things that happen
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  Speaker 1: in LA or New York or Atlanta or Philadelphia or
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  Speaker 1: Boston or Baltimore like that.
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  Speaker 2: That's what it would actually be about. Like that, That's
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  Speaker 2: what it would be.
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  Speaker 1: And so you would govern in a way that would
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  Speaker 1: be completely different. You would pass laws that would hurt
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  Speaker 1: a large swap of you know, piece of America. If
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  Speaker 1: you thought it would help you in a big city,
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  Speaker 1: you would. You would have policies that would favor big
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  Speaker 1: cities and really hurt rural America. You would never care
• 15:49
  Speaker 1: about union workers anymore. You wouldn't have to. You would
• 15:52
  Speaker 1: never care about farmers anymore. You wouldn't have to.
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  Speaker 2: You would never.
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  Speaker 1: Care about you know, coal miners or manufacturing any of
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  Speaker 1: these things. You wouldn't care about liquid natural gas or
• 16:02
  Speaker 1: any of those issues anymore, right or fracking issues because
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  Speaker 1: it's in areas that are rule. There are entire states
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  Speaker 1: that would be left behind. North Dakota, South Dakota, Utah, Wyoming,
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  Speaker 1: those states. Anything happens there, like there could be wildfires,
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  Speaker 1: for example, I don't think the federal government would get involved.
• 16:19
  Speaker 1: They just say, yeah, we don't care if the whole
• 16:21
  Speaker 1: state birds down. We're not going to send money to
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: those states. And the reason why is pretty clear. Why
• 16:28
  Speaker 1: would we send money to a state right where we're
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  Speaker 1: not going to get anything back in a presidential election year.
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  Speaker 1: Now you understand why the electoral college is so vitally important.
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  Speaker 1: You look at Tennessee, for example, and look at the
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: scenario of Tennessee. Look at the flooding in East Tennessee
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  Speaker 1: that happened after this hurricane came through, Helleen.
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  Speaker 2: You look at a state, Are they any chance they're
• 16:54
  Speaker 2: going to vote for us?
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  Speaker 4: No?
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  Speaker 2: Okay? Is there a lot of Democratic voters there?
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  Speaker 4: No?
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  Speaker 2: Especially in East Tennessee. Right, it's even more conservative.
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  Speaker 1: Nashville is more liberal proper, Memphis more liberal proper, like
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: the Memphis area.
• 17:08
  Speaker 2: And you'd be like, all right, well, like.
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  Speaker 1: We don't need to do anything. We don't need to
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: see send FEMA. Why would we need to send FEMA there.
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  Speaker 1: It's a waste of time. Those people aren't going to
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  Speaker 1: vote for us, So screw them, Like, it's just a
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  Speaker 1: waste of time, So get rid of them, don't help them,
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: let them suffer. They're not important to us winning the presidency.
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: Do I believe Kama Harris pleaves what Tim Walls?
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  Speaker 2: Please?
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  Speaker 1: Absolutely, I do, like one hundred percent. I do, because
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  Speaker 1: it's just easier for them. The media ad bys you
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: would make would be so different. The ad bys would
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: be different. It'd be easier to get elected. You could
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: buy elections if you can just flood the airwaves information
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: in towns that you care about.
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: This would be amazing for the Democratic Party.
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: When they tell you that they this is how they
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: look at America, this is what they believe about America.
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: This is how they want to gain power. I say it,
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: and I'll say it again. Believe them when they tell
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: you this. Okay, like, believe them. Believe them. They're telling
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: you what they want to do, so believe them. Tamala
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: Harris doing fake town halls where she has a secret teleprompter.
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: She got busted for that. That's the best part about it.
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: But it doesn't really matter because the media doesn't expose it.
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: That's my job apparently, and others like me, because otherwise
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: no one would ever know. And what's even more shocking
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: than that is Waltz has come out now saying he's
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: in favor of getting.
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: Rid of the electoral college. Why why not? Right? Why
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: why not just get rid of the electoral college?
• 19:00
  Speaker 3: Listen to this, Like something you said on Tuesday, she said,
• 19:03
  Speaker 3: I think all of us know the electoral college needs
• 19:05
  Speaker 3: to go. But the campaign came out later that night
• 19:08
  Speaker 3: and they said that's not their stands.
• 19:10
  Speaker 5: Well, it's not the campaign's position. And the point I'm
• 19:12
  Speaker 5: trying to make is that there's folks that feel every
• 19:15
  Speaker 5: vote must count in every state, and I think some
• 19:18
  Speaker 5: of folks feel that's not the case.
• 19:20
  Speaker 4: Our campaign does that.
• 19:21
  Speaker 5: And the point I'm saying is, I'm in five states
• 19:23
  Speaker 5: in two days. We're out there making the case that
• 19:26
  Speaker 5: the campaign's position is clear that that's not their position.
• 19:29
  Speaker 5: Their position and my position is is to make sure
• 19:31
  Speaker 5: that everybody understands their vote no matter what state they're in, matters.
• 19:35
  Speaker 3: So that's something that you and our President Harris disagree on.
• 19:38
  Speaker 5: I have spoken about it in the past that she's
• 19:40
  Speaker 5: been very clear on this and the campaign and my
• 19:42
  Speaker 5: position is the campaign's position.
• 19:44
  Speaker 4: And let's talk about the economy that Like.
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: I love that, right, Like, oh, it's just my position
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: is the position of the campaign.
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: No, it's not. You just contradicted yourself.
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: And you notice how straight hands like, Okay, I'm not
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: going to tackle you.
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: You on that to use this, you know, favorite sport
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: he played.
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: And now he's interviewing people for the presidency, which is
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: also just insane to me that.
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: Michael Strahan is doing this.
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: But whatever, I digress, Right, it's just like it's all rigged,
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: it's all against us.
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: Who cares?
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: So now let's go to the economy. He's like, yep,
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: trying to move on. Let's talk about other issues. Right,
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: Let's just let's just move straight past.
• 20:23
  Speaker 3: That, and let's talk about the economy. That is the
• 20:26
  Speaker 3: top issue. You're voted out there. Seventy four percent of
• 20:29
  Speaker 3: voters said to pass you, they've had to cut back
• 20:30
  Speaker 3: on groceries because of the writhing costs, of course, and
• 20:33
  Speaker 3: a lot of those voters they're concerned that they cast
• 20:36
  Speaker 3: her vote for Kamala Harris, but she's responsible for that.
• 20:40
  Speaker 3: So how do you reach those voters? What do you
• 20:41
  Speaker 3: say to those voters who may blame her for the economy?
• 20:44
  Speaker 5: Right now, folks in the middle, what we talked to
• 20:45
  Speaker 5: him about, what are the policies that are going to
• 20:47
  Speaker 5: make a difference. And we see some of the data,
• 20:49
  Speaker 5: but data doesn't impact people in their daily lives. Go
• 20:51
  Speaker 5: into the grocery store and you see false information, whether
• 20:54
  Speaker 5: it's bird flu impacting eggs. But the reality for most
• 20:57
  Speaker 5: people is if those costs are up, they want to
• 20:59
  Speaker 5: know what you're going to do about it. I think
• 21:00
  Speaker 5: that's why she's focusing on making sure whether it's home
• 21:02
  Speaker 5: ownership more affordable, tax cuts for the middle class, and
• 21:06
  Speaker 5: let's just be candid about this, this price couging piece of.
• 21:09
  Speaker 3: This, and something that former President Trump says, something that
• 21:13
  Speaker 3: within your debate with they were saying that, hey, the
• 21:18
  Speaker 3: either policy that Kamala Harris could have done three years ago,
• 21:22
  Speaker 3: she was in the White House with President Biden and
• 21:25
  Speaker 3: she never did. What do you say to people who
• 21:28
  Speaker 3: bring that up, Well, well, Donald Trump.
• 21:30
  Speaker 4: Had four years to do it.
• 21:31
  Speaker 5: If you're going to talk about that, and the butt is,
• 21:33
  Speaker 5: you need a partner in Congress.
• 21:34
  Speaker 4: You've seen these We've seen.
• 21:35
  Speaker 5: Different bills that are ready to pass, and Donald Trump
• 21:38
  Speaker 5: make sure he steps in. We saw it around immigration,
• 21:41
  Speaker 5: a bipartisan bill widely respected. Wanting to make a difference
• 21:45
  Speaker 5: in this holding true to our value securing the border.
• 21:48
  Speaker 5: Donald Trump steps in and says look, that's going to
• 21:50
  Speaker 5: hurt my political future.
• 21:51
  Speaker 4: Let's not make it happen.
• 21:53
  Speaker 3: Let's talk about your record, and you call yourself a knucklehead.
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: Can we go back to just how quick they edited that?
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: Did you know?
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: Like, now let's go to something else, Like he just
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: said something that is not an answer to a real
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: question about the economy. He doesn't really answer the question.
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: He doesn't talk about the pain and suffering of the
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: American voters. It's a check the box interview and then
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: they immediately edit. You can hear the hard edit there.
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: You can hear the jump cut at it, as we
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: call it in radio and TV. And they're like, let's
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: talk about you. You kind of say sometimes you're a knucklehead. Now,
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: knucklehead is the excuse that they're now giving for him
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: lying about seeing combat, lying about his rank in the military,
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: lying about in vitro, lying about I mean, there's a
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: pretty good list. Now, the stolen valor one actually bothers me,
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: I think the most.
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: It should bother you the.
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: Most, because if you're willing to lie about stolen valor,
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: it's pretty bad. But listen, as he continues, right, they
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: are basically saying, oh, he lied about, you know, seeing
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: combat with a firearm.
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: He was never deployed to a combat zone.
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: He lied about that too, And they're like, oh, you're
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: just you know, you say you're a knucklehead, lied about
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: being in tim Square. He's like, I'm a knucklehead, Like
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: and not I'm a liar, Not I'm a pathological liar.
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: Not my resume, what's on it.
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: I've lied about the biggest things to make myself look
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: bigger than I am, to get where I am today.
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: It quickly worked, by the way he's now. People ask
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: questions and they're like, and so this is the media.
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: You've called yourself a knucklehead. That's the excuse, Not hey,
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: you're a pathological liar. There's a lot of people in
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: the military are very angry about you lying about seeing combat,
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: very angry about you claiming that you carried weapons of
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: war on the field with him and you didn't, claiming
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: that you were a rank that you weren't. There's a
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: lot of protesters out there, those that we're at Tenuman
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: Square that can't believe that you claim that you were
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: at Tenem Square during the worst days there. You lied
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: about that too, Like that would be a real question,
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: why should anyone trust you with your story at all?
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: That would be a real question the question you got. Yeah,
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: you describe yourself as, you know, being a knucklehead. You're
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: a knuckle ahead, pathological eye now it is knucklehead. Now.
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: By the way, media doesn't like sing Donald Trump says,
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: he says something that's not true.
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: What are they saying?
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: He's a dictator, he's a tyrant, he's a psychopath, he's
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: a narcissist, he's crazy, can't be trusted with the nuclear codes.
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: By the way, he said things that are true, and
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: they also say the same things. But there is your
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: bias in the media and this this question of him
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: and this ABC News exclusive, it's perfect example that you
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: describe yourself, you know, as.
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: Kind of a knucklehead. You're you're you're a knucklehead.
• 24:57
  Speaker 4: Happen, let's talk about your record.
• 25:00
  Speaker 3: You call yourself a knucklehead, and call yourself a knucklehea
• 25:02
  Speaker 3: because you've made some statements that just aren't true. In
• 25:06
  Speaker 3: a common about weapon of the war that I carried
• 25:07
  Speaker 3: in ward, which you didn't. You said you were in
• 25:10
  Speaker 3: Hong Kong doing a tan and in Square massacre when
• 25:12
  Speaker 3: you weren't. You kind of chalked it all up the
• 25:15
  Speaker 3: bad grammar or getting the dates wrong. But your opponents
• 25:19
  Speaker 3: say you lied to make yourself look better.
• 25:22
  Speaker 4: Do they have a point?
• 25:24
  Speaker 5: Well, look, thirty five years ago, got the opportunity to
• 25:27
  Speaker 5: be in Hong Kong, be in China, learned a lot
• 25:29
  Speaker 5: about it, served twenty four years in the National Guard,
• 25:33
  Speaker 5: passionately in an instance talking about gun violence in schools
• 25:38
  Speaker 5: on an instance there. Proud of the service that I've done,
• 25:41
  Speaker 5: Proud to be a teacher in that classroom, Proud to
• 25:43
  Speaker 5: have been very public all these years and owning it
• 25:46
  Speaker 5: when I said, look, I was there in August of
• 25:49
  Speaker 5: eighty nine, and I think what you see here you
• 25:51
  Speaker 5: saw in Minnesota. I've been elected eight times here, these
• 25:54
  Speaker 5: things have been very public for folks here. They see
• 25:57
  Speaker 5: the results of things that we passed. We see a
• 25:59
  Speaker 5: state that it's a top five state for business. We
• 26:01
  Speaker 5: see third best state, top three state for raising a child,
• 26:05
  Speaker 5: and we've got the best healthcare.
• 26:06
  Speaker 4: And I think the policies, whether.
• 26:08
  Speaker 5: It be dealing with China and understanding China's human rights record.
• 26:11
  Speaker 5: What you can be certain there is that Kamala Harris
• 26:13
  Speaker 5: and I aren't going to pick dictators on speed dial
• 26:18
  Speaker 5: see c Jing pinions doing a good job during COVID,
• 26:20
  Speaker 5: as Donald Trump said, And I think those lessons learned
• 26:23
  Speaker 5: over a lifetime of being very public, whether it's in
• 26:26
  Speaker 5: the classroom or being elected.
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: Great pivot there.
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: By the way, when you do debate prep and when
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: you do prep for interviews, that is exactly I would
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: have him answer that question right, Donald Trump's evil and bad.
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: I just lie about my record. Donald Trump's evil and
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: bad and a threat to America. I just happen to
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: lie about the most important things accomplishments in my life. Now,
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: if you have a real journalist, they would have a
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: follow up question to that.
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: Was there a follow up question?
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: Now, there's a lot of questions about his service, his rank,
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: his lies about being at Tim Square's lies on in
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: feature of viertilization with his own kids, Like, there's a lot.
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: You could argue the biggest things in his resume have
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: major fraud involved in them. So did they do a
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: follow up question when they asked him a question about
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: this and his quote knucklehead andness or were they just
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: checking a box over there at ABC News? Well, he
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: answered the question by attacking Trump, not actually answering the question,
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: what's the very next question the interview listen, Well.
• 27:33
  Speaker 3: You know, but if it's one thing of trust, some
• 27:36
  Speaker 3: people who say we can't trust him even tell the
• 27:39
  Speaker 3: truth about himself, what do you say to them?
• 27:41
  Speaker 5: Well, I said, they know who I am. I know
• 27:43
  Speaker 5: who I am, I know the work that I've done.
• 27:45
  Speaker 5: I know that things gets fun in a political environment.
• 27:48
  Speaker 5: But I think what they see is if they want
• 27:50
  Speaker 5: to compare that talking about immigration policy or seeing the
• 27:53
  Speaker 5: things that Donald Trump would say, I think there's a
• 27:56
  Speaker 5: big difference than missing a date when you're there and
• 27:59
  Speaker 5: again and spinning something for a political reason.
• 28:02
  Speaker 4: I'm very clear of who I've been.
• 28:03
  Speaker 5: I'm very proud of twenty four years of doing that work,
• 28:06
  Speaker 5: and I think going to Congress and working for veterans,
• 28:09
  Speaker 5: they want to see it and make the difference look
• 28:11
  Speaker 5: a little different. I think people in Minnesota, my students,
• 28:14
  Speaker 5: the folks I've worked with members of Congress, they know
• 28:17
  Speaker 5: who I am, and they know the policies we put
• 28:19
  Speaker 5: in place have made an impact.
• 28:21
  Speaker 3: And Vice President Harrison is she told you to be
• 28:24
  Speaker 3: a little bit more careful on how you say things.
• 28:27
  Speaker 4: Well, I did it.
• 28:28
  Speaker 5: You know, even the other day of just speaking passionately
• 28:32
  Speaker 5: about these gun violence situations and meeting with these survivors.
• 28:35
  Speaker 5: I've said in the room with the Sandy Hook folks,
• 28:38
  Speaker 5: a friend with David Hogg, who's been an activist on this.
• 28:41
  Speaker 5: People know in that, and then that gets spun in
• 28:43
  Speaker 5: that he didn't say something true. It was very clear
• 28:46
  Speaker 5: that I was talking about these veterans, very clear that
• 28:48
  Speaker 5: I wear you know, I wear my emotions on my sleeve,
• 28:52
  Speaker 5: and I do think in these positions, whether it be
• 28:53
  Speaker 5: governor or being vice president of the United States, you
• 28:56
  Speaker 5: do need.
• 28:56
  Speaker 4: To be collect careful. You do need to be a
• 28:59
  Speaker 4: little more thoughtful on it.
• 29:01
  Speaker 5: And I think what you see as as someone who's
• 29:03
  Speaker 5: been in classrooms a lot, I been around coaching a lot.
• 29:07
  Speaker 5: I speak passionately, and I think doing that you need
• 29:11
  Speaker 5: to you need to combine the two. And I think
• 29:13
  Speaker 5: that's what she's she's referring to. And you spent years
• 29:18
  Speaker 5: as a high school defensive coordinator. Yes, the coach getting
• 29:22
  Speaker 5: the guys.
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: By the way, I love that jump there. They're like, Okay,
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: we got the coach answer. I speak passionately. Therefore I'm
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: allowed to be a pathological liar that that's the excuse.
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: I speak passionately, so I'm a I should be allowed
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: to be a pathological liar about my entire career. And
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: then immediately they jump from there to walking down the
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: hall and two football players right talking to one another.
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: You were a you were a D line coach, right, like,
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: you know, let's let's let's yuck it up here. I'm
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: just I'm just a guy that you know. I I
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: speak passionately. All right, let's talk football.
• 30:02
  Speaker 3: And you spent years as a high school defensive coordinator, Yes,
• 30:08
  Speaker 3: the coach getting the guys together out there on that field.
• 30:11
  Speaker 4: And you credit that experience and you say, that's something that.
• 30:13
  Speaker 3: Makes you uniquely position to help America go where you
• 30:19
  Speaker 3: feel like you should go.
• 30:20
  Speaker 4: How did that make you uniquely quantify for that?
• 30:22
  Speaker 5: Well, I think it's about building teams, about bringing diverse
• 30:25
  Speaker 5: folks in finding where their skills work. I feel like
• 30:28
  Speaker 5: I'm on a championship team with Vice President Harris. But
• 30:31
  Speaker 5: it's that idea of molding, shaping, providing guidance, but understanding
• 30:36
  Speaker 5: that you're just a piece of it.
• 30:38
  Speaker 4: The folks, the players got to play.
• 30:39
  Speaker 5: I always said, you've got to put them in a
• 30:41
  Speaker 5: position to be successful. And I think where you see
• 30:43
  Speaker 5: these positions, whether it's governor or vice president, got to
• 30:46
  Speaker 5: put the American people in a position to be successful,
• 30:49
  Speaker 5: and they'll do it.
• 30:49
  Speaker 4: They'll do it. That's it.
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: There it is.
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: There's your hard hitting, tough propaganda interview from Good Morning
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  Speaker 1: America five days before election day. And that's what they've
• 31:03
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  Speaker 1: nothing else but that.
• 31:08
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• 31:11
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